I remember fighting with an old landlord when I used to rent to fix our fence. That guy wouldn't fix anything, or send anyone out to fix anything. He would reimburse me when I fixed things though, so I just ended up taking care of everything. I rented that house for 6 years and didn't see that landlord one single time while I lived there, even when I moved. Some things I'd do right, and some things I'd jerry-rig and call good enough..like my fence. My neighbors were starting to get crappy about it (which I get), so I caved and took care of it. I used these ties and I had to replace some planks and 2x4s. It looked great from the outside, not so much on the inside. That's all the neighbors cared about so that was good enough for a house I didn't even own. It held up though, cause I drove by that house 10 years later and nothing had changed. 😂
@ethiceze5410 ай бұрын
great video. No fuss no muss. You got straight to the point. The product is a Great idea. Time is money.
@sitivi14 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much, this is EXACTLY what I need! You've saved me thousands of dollars!
@summerseverthamilton49057 жыл бұрын
Me too man
@claudejean96732 жыл бұрын
Dude I wish I knew about these when I had to fix my fence a few years ago.
@fuyingbro9 жыл бұрын
cut a slit up the middle part way 2/3 high it will allow the stake to wedge into the concrete and will go deeper the stakes can be a little to wide for the hole made by the 4x4 this has helped
@kevinthomas47203 жыл бұрын
Is it better to install these on the front side of the post, as opposed to the sides?
@mavericks2k811 Жыл бұрын
Was just looking for exactly this type of fix for our fence! Perfect! Gave a like and subscribe, especially since you're local! Thanks for the video and tips!
@donc97514 жыл бұрын
It looks like you drove both of the menders down the same depth? Were the holes for the lag screws lined up? What size lags did you use? Or did you go with carriage bolts?
@josemora67777 жыл бұрын
If you have to ask, have someone else come to do it.
@danbo121777342 жыл бұрын
@@danbo12177734 Well there's that and then there's what educational youtube videos exist for.
@TheLarryBrown Жыл бұрын
We've got to get you a head mounted GoPro. Nice to see you back brother! STN
@OH8STN9 жыл бұрын
Wow! Those are great! I've got a post rotted along the perimeter of Villa Costa-Mucho! I might have to see if I can find some of these around here!
@RESlusher9 жыл бұрын
Richard Slusher I put the Home Depot link in the description, but they are also available on Amazon Prime at the same price.
@8digitPDX9 жыл бұрын
8digitPDX, thanks! I've got an HD just down the street!
@RESlusher9 жыл бұрын
Plane one side of the fence board that goes over the metal. Job done right and takes what 30 seconds with a 20v cordless planer?
@Allaahesuno6 жыл бұрын
I think I found my solution. Thank goodness for the Internet.
@travistippetts16043 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@phillipnapoleon-wn5mp Жыл бұрын
just go to home Depot they sell 2" flat steel 4' long. just hammer in a few and screw in in
@patandbrandi7 жыл бұрын
I bought a package of these but they are a hair too small to fit around the post! I thought they were "standard" size. Anyone know anything about that? They are just slightly too narrow to fit around the posts I have. I have a standard stockade style fence. Help!
@charlenearsenault28075 жыл бұрын
Beat them wider, they are steel not diamond.
@danbo121777342 жыл бұрын
Even at $20 each is a good deal. Contractor wanted to charge me $450 to fix the fence. Can fix it myself for under $100. It's a fence made out of exterior hardy plank at a Condo Complex. 4 broken posts.
@clark770957 жыл бұрын
Kent Harris Thanks for the comment. That's why I try to bring the practical advice videos in on this channel.
@8digitPDX7 жыл бұрын
Almost $18 at your link now. Did they skyrocket in price since you posted in 2015? Thanks for posting :-)
@musicbymark Жыл бұрын
PANDEMIC pricing in full in effect STILL in 2023 lol!
@Charlie_snail10 ай бұрын
You cant get that in between the concrete and the post, We use a jack hammer to get the footing out and its still hard to break up the footing
@chrisbatchelor37175 жыл бұрын
Most people have concrete around post. How would this possible work then?
@bobingalls46437 жыл бұрын
The steel reinforcement piece just breaks away and shoves its way through the concrete. The concrete typically used to hold fence posts tends to get brittle over time and is never reinforced with steel mesh. It is just poured in an oversize hole as one guy holds the post level and square. Once a post starts to rot, it swells, which cracks the concrete anyway. It is one reason you tend to see cracked concrete and rotten wood together in aged construction.
@8digitPDX7 жыл бұрын
I had to chip away enough concrete to get the strong ties in deep enough. It will not go though concrete by simply hammering it it. I then poured concrete around the strong ties giving the post a much stronger hold. The way it is done in this video will not give you a firm hold. Especially in open areas where winds can be stronger.
@BobJones-ib4xh7 жыл бұрын
Just beware. This will not work with a true 4"x4". The inside demension is 3-1/2"
@harrisond813211 ай бұрын
if you put it 90° over, it's strong enough to use one. They're meant to be on the side of the post not the face.
@TheBassLizard4 жыл бұрын
I also believe you are supposed to drive it in until that bump you use to drive it in is flush with the ground
@TheRealDanBell3 жыл бұрын
Why do they go on the side? That is counter intuitive. The fence always leans forwards or back, never side ways, and that giant plate of steel, along the face of the post, would seem to lend the needed to/fro support. However I do know that the instruction on the item says toi install on the sides.
@TheLarryBrown Жыл бұрын
You have installed it incorrectly. It is supposed to be on the sides not the face. You would need to remove the support rails and pickets in that area. Install the mender then reinstall rail and picket. Much much stronger installation. 🤓
@shanepitzer432311 ай бұрын
@@shanepitzer4323but it's easier this way 😊😅
@boofuls10 ай бұрын
@@boofuls easier? Oh the lazy way and not how it’s designed to be used. Got it. 😆
@shanepitzer432310 ай бұрын
This did not work for me
@grandizer45312 жыл бұрын
... unless the post has been set in concrete. In my 20 years of related work in the SF Bay area, I have not once found these brackets to be of any use. Unfortunately.
@432b86ed6 жыл бұрын
I agree, that look like they really don't work that well.
@cjjonez4 жыл бұрын
How many of those 20 years were spent vainly trying these so that you can say that?
@TheLarryBrown Жыл бұрын
@@TheLarryBrown 🙂 Let me rephrase that. 99% of the fence posts I've been asked to fix over those years were set in concrete - in which case these things no workee.
@432b86ed Жыл бұрын
I tried hammering this through concrete and it would not budge.
@jtsimikas6 жыл бұрын
Why does no one know how to build a fence with concrete above ground level! arrrh
@Cougar139tweak8 жыл бұрын
+Goon Industries I know mate. Just about every garden fence in Britain has posts that rot off exactly at ground level while the bit that's down underground , whether concreted in or not will remain solid . Its perfectly possible to make a post firm in just about any soil as long as you compact the backfill material really thoroughly then as you say put the concrete on top . PS my other pet hate is seeing newly laid turf given a good going over with a wacker
@barkershill8 жыл бұрын
trying this home depot 18$ bucks each
@jasongreenwood80302 жыл бұрын
Everyone needs to stop using wood as fence posts
@Bigshoots863 жыл бұрын
When we bought our house, we got a bunch of different quotes to put a privacy fence around our yard. There was no previous fence, pretty level ground all the way around with no obstructions, and we needed close to 250 linear feet. The prices were typical, but we wanted metal posts, and I wanted metal rails. That made the price skyrocket of course because of the rails, but I expected that. I ended up looking into the cost to do it myself, and it was absolutely doable, so I took that route. I payed less than half of all the quotes, and got my metal rails. Sure, they're absolutely uneccessary, but that fence is a beast, lol. Me, a few of my buddies and an in-law all worked on it. It was definitely a learning experience, but it wasn't difficult by any means. It was tedious at best, but we got it done. It's held up for the last 18 years with minimal repairs, and not one of those repairs has ever involved those metal posts or rails. 😂
@ethiceze5410 ай бұрын
Installed on the wrong sides of the post, but good job I guess
@rmartinez25383 жыл бұрын
Lowes sells these and the one picture they have as installed are on the same sides of the fence in this video
@pshep1233 жыл бұрын
The installation video made by Simpson and posted here on KZhead shows the mender being installed on the front of the post. It makes a hell of a lot more sense from an effort point of view to put it there. Ever tried hammering one of these things in on the side of a fence post like the instructions suggest? The work you have to do to get access to the side of the post, plus the effort and cost of installing these, means you might as well put in a new post if you're going to do it on the sides.
@chuckzissman42125 ай бұрын
Too much extra work!
@JWW9226 жыл бұрын
Just buy metal post for 20.00
@eskinderteshome96813 жыл бұрын
$23 for more Simpson bs when for $6 you can go get a brand new post and do it RIGHT.
@thomasyates85618 жыл бұрын
+Thomas yates Client's choice because "doing it right" that close to the building and with the rest of the fence there involves a lot more money tied up in labor.
@8digitPDX8 жыл бұрын
8digitPDX Fence post can be removed in minutes but i get what ur saying. Im just not a fan of simpson strong ties, not that it isnt a good product, but its ridiculously expensive and they have pretty much gotten their dirty hands into every counties back pockets forcing people to use their products. If the price were an honest price, i could care less. But its not, and they drive the cost of doing business skyhigh. And if youre a small contractor, or handyman...people simply will not understand that its not you thats jacking the prices up.
@thomasyates85618 жыл бұрын
Thomas yates I am a handyman and I just show the customer the receipt from Home Depot or Lowes where I buy the stuff. My prices are so far below the "professional outfits" that nobody even questions it and if they do, then I am just down the road. They most likely got quotes from the regular fence contractors before even calling me and those guys mark everything up a lot.
@8digitPDX8 жыл бұрын
+8digitPDX I was happy to pay $16 for a pair of these per post (at Lowe's) for a reasonable repair whereas I would have spent hours over several days digging up the concrete to re-do the entire post. Not anywhere near worth my time to do that.
@DelLee8 жыл бұрын
+Thomas yates You assume that there is not concrete down a foot of even more, mine were two feet. Unless you very strong, more than an ape, they will need a backhoe to get it out.. Just about then I dare say 50 bucks for two pieces of iron are better, depends if you plan to live there anymore.
I remember fighting with an old landlord when I used to rent to fix our fence. That guy wouldn't fix anything, or send anyone out to fix anything. He would reimburse me when I fixed things though, so I just ended up taking care of everything. I rented that house for 6 years and didn't see that landlord one single time while I lived there, even when I moved. Some things I'd do right, and some things I'd jerry-rig and call good enough..like my fence. My neighbors were starting to get crappy about it (which I get), so I caved and took care of it. I used these ties and I had to replace some planks and 2x4s. It looked great from the outside, not so much on the inside. That's all the neighbors cared about so that was good enough for a house I didn't even own. It held up though, cause I drove by that house 10 years later and nothing had changed. 😂
great video. No fuss no muss. You got straight to the point. The product is a Great idea. Time is money.
Thank you SO much, this is EXACTLY what I need! You've saved me thousands of dollars!
Me too man
Dude I wish I knew about these when I had to fix my fence a few years ago.
cut a slit up the middle part way 2/3 high it will allow the stake to wedge into the concrete and will go deeper the stakes can be a little to wide for the hole made by the 4x4 this has helped
Is it better to install these on the front side of the post, as opposed to the sides?
Was just looking for exactly this type of fix for our fence! Perfect! Gave a like and subscribe, especially since you're local! Thanks for the video and tips!
It looks like you drove both of the menders down the same depth? Were the holes for the lag screws lined up? What size lags did you use? Or did you go with carriage bolts?
If you have to ask, have someone else come to do it.
@@danbo12177734 Well there's that and then there's what educational youtube videos exist for.
We've got to get you a head mounted GoPro. Nice to see you back brother! STN
Wow! Those are great! I've got a post rotted along the perimeter of Villa Costa-Mucho! I might have to see if I can find some of these around here!
Richard Slusher I put the Home Depot link in the description, but they are also available on Amazon Prime at the same price.
8digitPDX, thanks! I've got an HD just down the street!
Plane one side of the fence board that goes over the metal. Job done right and takes what 30 seconds with a 20v cordless planer?
I think I found my solution. Thank goodness for the Internet.
Thank you
just go to home Depot they sell 2" flat steel 4' long. just hammer in a few and screw in in
I bought a package of these but they are a hair too small to fit around the post! I thought they were "standard" size. Anyone know anything about that? They are just slightly too narrow to fit around the posts I have. I have a standard stockade style fence. Help!
Beat them wider, they are steel not diamond.
Even at $20 each is a good deal. Contractor wanted to charge me $450 to fix the fence. Can fix it myself for under $100. It's a fence made out of exterior hardy plank at a Condo Complex. 4 broken posts.
Kent Harris Thanks for the comment. That's why I try to bring the practical advice videos in on this channel.
Almost $18 at your link now. Did they skyrocket in price since you posted in 2015? Thanks for posting :-)
PANDEMIC pricing in full in effect STILL in 2023 lol!
You cant get that in between the concrete and the post, We use a jack hammer to get the footing out and its still hard to break up the footing
Most people have concrete around post. How would this possible work then?
The steel reinforcement piece just breaks away and shoves its way through the concrete. The concrete typically used to hold fence posts tends to get brittle over time and is never reinforced with steel mesh. It is just poured in an oversize hole as one guy holds the post level and square. Once a post starts to rot, it swells, which cracks the concrete anyway. It is one reason you tend to see cracked concrete and rotten wood together in aged construction.
I had to chip away enough concrete to get the strong ties in deep enough. It will not go though concrete by simply hammering it it. I then poured concrete around the strong ties giving the post a much stronger hold. The way it is done in this video will not give you a firm hold. Especially in open areas where winds can be stronger.
Just beware. This will not work with a true 4"x4". The inside demension is 3-1/2"
if you put it 90° over, it's strong enough to use one. They're meant to be on the side of the post not the face.
I also believe you are supposed to drive it in until that bump you use to drive it in is flush with the ground
Why do they go on the side? That is counter intuitive. The fence always leans forwards or back, never side ways, and that giant plate of steel, along the face of the post, would seem to lend the needed to/fro support. However I do know that the instruction on the item says toi install on the sides.
You have installed it incorrectly. It is supposed to be on the sides not the face. You would need to remove the support rails and pickets in that area. Install the mender then reinstall rail and picket. Much much stronger installation. 🤓
@@shanepitzer4323but it's easier this way 😊😅
@@boofuls easier? Oh the lazy way and not how it’s designed to be used. Got it. 😆
This did not work for me
... unless the post has been set in concrete. In my 20 years of related work in the SF Bay area, I have not once found these brackets to be of any use. Unfortunately.
I agree, that look like they really don't work that well.
How many of those 20 years were spent vainly trying these so that you can say that?
@@TheLarryBrown 🙂 Let me rephrase that. 99% of the fence posts I've been asked to fix over those years were set in concrete - in which case these things no workee.
I tried hammering this through concrete and it would not budge.
Why does no one know how to build a fence with concrete above ground level! arrrh
+Goon Industries I know mate. Just about every garden fence in Britain has posts that rot off exactly at ground level while the bit that's down underground , whether concreted in or not will remain solid . Its perfectly possible to make a post firm in just about any soil as long as you compact the backfill material really thoroughly then as you say put the concrete on top . PS my other pet hate is seeing newly laid turf given a good going over with a wacker
trying this home depot 18$ bucks each
Everyone needs to stop using wood as fence posts
When we bought our house, we got a bunch of different quotes to put a privacy fence around our yard. There was no previous fence, pretty level ground all the way around with no obstructions, and we needed close to 250 linear feet. The prices were typical, but we wanted metal posts, and I wanted metal rails. That made the price skyrocket of course because of the rails, but I expected that. I ended up looking into the cost to do it myself, and it was absolutely doable, so I took that route. I payed less than half of all the quotes, and got my metal rails. Sure, they're absolutely uneccessary, but that fence is a beast, lol. Me, a few of my buddies and an in-law all worked on it. It was definitely a learning experience, but it wasn't difficult by any means. It was tedious at best, but we got it done. It's held up for the last 18 years with minimal repairs, and not one of those repairs has ever involved those metal posts or rails. 😂
Installed on the wrong sides of the post, but good job I guess
Lowes sells these and the one picture they have as installed are on the same sides of the fence in this video
The installation video made by Simpson and posted here on KZhead shows the mender being installed on the front of the post. It makes a hell of a lot more sense from an effort point of view to put it there. Ever tried hammering one of these things in on the side of a fence post like the instructions suggest? The work you have to do to get access to the side of the post, plus the effort and cost of installing these, means you might as well put in a new post if you're going to do it on the sides.
Too much extra work!
Just buy metal post for 20.00
$23 for more Simpson bs when for $6 you can go get a brand new post and do it RIGHT.
+Thomas yates Client's choice because "doing it right" that close to the building and with the rest of the fence there involves a lot more money tied up in labor.
8digitPDX Fence post can be removed in minutes but i get what ur saying. Im just not a fan of simpson strong ties, not that it isnt a good product, but its ridiculously expensive and they have pretty much gotten their dirty hands into every counties back pockets forcing people to use their products. If the price were an honest price, i could care less. But its not, and they drive the cost of doing business skyhigh. And if youre a small contractor, or handyman...people simply will not understand that its not you thats jacking the prices up.
Thomas yates I am a handyman and I just show the customer the receipt from Home Depot or Lowes where I buy the stuff. My prices are so far below the "professional outfits" that nobody even questions it and if they do, then I am just down the road. They most likely got quotes from the regular fence contractors before even calling me and those guys mark everything up a lot.
+8digitPDX I was happy to pay $16 for a pair of these per post (at Lowe's) for a reasonable repair whereas I would have spent hours over several days digging up the concrete to re-do the entire post. Not anywhere near worth my time to do that.
+Thomas yates You assume that there is not concrete down a foot of even more, mine were two feet. Unless you very strong, more than an ape, they will need a backhoe to get it out.. Just about then I dare say 50 bucks for two pieces of iron are better, depends if you plan to live there anymore.