MAXXIS RAZR AT Tyres MY FIRST TRIP REVIEW with real-world feedback
Recently I fitted a set of the Maxxis RAZR AT All Terrain Tires to my 105 Series Toyota Landcruiser, Here is some real-world feedback and my initial thoughts after 1500 kms of mostly off road work.
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One of the best snow tires. Running on a 2021 subaru crosstrek
Spot on Matt. I run 2 sets muds and ATs muds especially when I go to Gordon country !! Just bit of rain there the black soil gets slick
Took muddy s off my f150 went with kenda at2 very similar design and I completely 100% agree with everything in this video. Very spot on. And my at tires are 14.5 lbs lighter per tire so my mileage actually went up!
Thanks, Matt. Excellent drill down.
My pleasure.
Thanks Matt. Really good review. Great content. Good show.
Thanks kindly john
Have the ATs 31s on my KZN165 for about 10,000km now. No complaints so far!
I have razr mt and love this tire. Maxxis have very lot of good tire for any off-road conditions. Thanks for the review!
That’s awesome
run these on my 1996 rav4 and they handle pretty well on road and i do hear them flicking stones now and then, but they look awesome and going straight in anything they just grab and keep going, i only have casual light Mud dirt and sand in jamaica, no snow but it seems to handle everything here well
fun fact they're snowflake rate which mean they can be used in the snow and as a Coloradan the lives next to the mountains its great
That’s good to hear. We don’t have that much snow where I live.
Great review mate, thanks I ordered a set of the same tyre for my 79 series and going to fit them soon and was between have I done the right choice or not but your review and they guys comments down below answered the whole lot of questions. I done my research and home work before I ordered them but this is the best review I've seen about them tyre👌 Cheers
Thanks heaps for the feedback
Excellent review! 👍
Thanks
Great video Matt! I run Falken Wildpeak AT3's on my "Highlux", 31/10.5x15 I agree totally with what you were saying about running an AT tyre as opposed to an MT. I have run mud tyres before which were great in the mud however, most of my driving these days is on road. I do like being able to venture off road whenever I get the chance and as you said, drive to the conditions. I was going to go for a mud tyre but decided at the last minute to go with an AT instead and I'm glad that I did. Your video could pretty much cover any brand of tyre as the principal is the same.
I guess your right
Had them on a jeep grand Cherokee they were on for 80,000 kl and still had good life in them when I sold the car and wore very even what idid notice was i had to lower the psi down at least 5 psi below what i normally ran because of the harder side walls
Looking forward to the long term review. I wonder if they get noisier and balloon out as they get older. Keep up the great work Matt 👏👏👏
Well see Jack. Lots of good comments in here.
Thanks for this informative video, I’ll be on my way to get a set of these now.
I’m confident you’ll be happy
Top self review, as always.
Thank you sir
Hi Matt, great review, keep them coming. Got the new 2022 dmax XT” and was looking for something of an RT” to run as a second set off road for trips. This review helps as it could be a good every day tyre instead of having two sets. Cheers, looking forward to hearing more. Great comments here to follow for advise too. Cheers, see ya off the road”!
Good stuff Adam. Glad to help
Another detailed review Matt. I run these same tyres, 33inch, on my 105 Cruiser. Coming from a Toyo Open Country AT, I find these are almost a middle ground between a standard AT and muddies. A bit more aggressive for off-road but still nice on the bitumen. Some Tyre manufacturers starting to call this style of tyre a Rough Terrain RT. About 5000 kms into my set, about 1k of off-road use. No noticeable noise increase and still smooth. Everything you said about terrain type was spot on. Sand driving is very good. Bag out real nice, I've only had mine down to 15psi and that was more than enough to climb Big Sandy at Byfield NP. Thanks for the vids mate. Always good and can't wait to see the Bundy get an overhaul.
Thanks heaps for all the feedback.
Maxxis A/T’s are one of my favorites when the day comes to buy new ones. Another is Falcon. BFG’s are damn good too but I’m concerned about their weight as I think they are the heaviest of the three.
That into shot is so cool
Cheers. We always try to be interesting.
Awesome review mate gonna order some 👍🏽
Nice. Let us know how it goes
Hey Matt I believe you've done a real thorough test there nice one
Thanks Kevin
No worries mate look forward to more mate 😁
Agree with your summation, Matster. AT's for 99% of your time in the high country will work just as well as a more aggressive MT. But, if it rains overnight and you are in clay country, it's game over. They will not clear orange clay. With regard to your high speed dirt roads at 80 km/h, did you experiment with different running pressures? Say, 30 psi, then 26 then 24 or even 22psi, to determine the best dirt running pressure? Although, 22 may be a tad too soft at 80 klicks.
My basic thoughts are a a/t in standard size for general day to day use and a larger m/t for when you want to head bush and get a bit more serious. Amazing where a pk ranger on standard sized falken wild peak a/ts can go if driven smartly.
Two sets of tyres is a great solution. Most 4wds are way more capable than most drivers.
Great review. I run this exact tyre and size set up on my gu patrol, and yes they are very smooth and quiet on the road which is nice. ive found off road they are still very capable but do agree with your comments about the mud, they can be quik to slide and loose traction, aswell as sliding into ruts. just need to be a bit more careful in said environment. otherwise awesome tyres! and NO more wobbles in the steering at all either.
Great feedback. Ta
Hi, Im Planning on buying a set for my gu patrol next week and im just wondering how they're holding up a few months down the track?
Thanks for the review, looking at getting a set of these as our off-roading tyre. We don't do much mud, more sand, loose rock and solid rock. They will be replacing some well worn BFG ATs so would be interested in knowing how they compare.
Not having run the BFGs I can’t comment.
Its good to see even though you are sponsored by Maxxis, you are not scared to give a non biased review on these tires. it really says a lot about your authenticity, unlike a lot of people in the industry that put up a superficial façade. Keep up the great work!
Thanks heaps Trent. I won’t work with companies that don’t want my honesty.
Great review. I had my tire choice narrowed down to these or the BFG KO2. I've had the KO2s on other large SUVs (Tahoe's & Yukon's) and loved them. Going into a Gladiator Mojave I was looking for an all around performer with light weight and better price point which these tires have. I look forward to the 10k follow up review. Cheers
For me, in Mongolia, the price did it. 1300 Euro for 6 Maxxis AT vs 2000 Euro for the KO2. The dif is huge for hopefully not a huge difference between the 2. Aside of that, i expect to change 2 tires a year due to rough circumstances. That adds up. I've not driven on them yet. But hope i won't regret my decision.
Thanks for that. I'll be pulling a camper and currently using the road tyres the vehicle came with and planning for A/T's when the camper is done and we head off. Maxxis Razr's have popped up on a few videos with positive reviews, so thanks for that too. Either their marketing is uber effective or they are actually one of the better options.
Mate I don’t do payed for opinion so I’m honestly happy to stand by what I said in the video.
@@MadMatt4WD That was the clincher for me MadMatt...though it must be said the marketing works at different levels, not just at the bribe the influencer level, so care is still required.
Done about 5000k’s with mine really happy with them. Experienced the same thing with them picking up small stones, generally only notice it at slow speed or accelerating after stopping/going slow.
Nice one
I’ve been four wheel driving since 1978 (and still am) and in that time l’ve tried many of the reputable tyres on the market. My impressions on All Terrain Tyres are, in the main, very good, they do as advertised. As with any and all tyres, there are pros and cons to consider, of which you have already explained very well in this video. I have two sets of wheels and tyres and use them according to what type of terrain and conditions l expect to be using them in. It is very convenient to have the luxury of both All Terrain & Mud Terrain Tyres at my disposal. For the most part, the All Terrain Tyres are fit for most situations but for seriously rough gravel roads and steep muddy hill climbs such as the Victorian High County, especially when towing a trailer, there is only one choice and that is Mud Terrain Tyres. Maximum grip is paramount in these environments and conditions. My go to Tyres for sand driving is the All Terrain Tyres. The Mud Terrain Tyres can cope reasonably well in sand surprisingly enough but the All Terrain Tyres are my choice for sand. Gravel roads tend to chew All Terrain Tyres up much quicker, due to the smaller gaps between the tread blocks, not so much with the Mud Terrain Tyres. Its a case of, different horses for different courses…
Great comment. I’ve run two sets in the past as well. Thanks for the encouragement.
Hi Matt. I also have a Landcruiser 105 series. After a lot of deliberation, I chose Maxxis AT s, but I went for a size similar to the Toyota factory size. Living in Melbourne we get a fair bit of rain and as this is my daily drive, I wanted a tyre that would be good on wet bitumen as well as off-road. I am impressed with how much grip I have in the wet, and I always feel confident that my vehicle will pull up when I need it to. They also feel stable when travelling on loose gravel roads. I love these tyres and hope that I get many kilometres from them. Thanks for the video, as always a balanced review. MP
I’m pleased to hear they’re working well for you
We've been fitting these Maxxis Razr tyres at Peakhurst Tyres and Mechanical for a while now and our customers echo your review comments 100%. The biggest feedback we get is how quiet they are and comfortable they ride.
Well that’s great feedback. A year on I’m still impressed
Ive had mine on my hilux for about 10000km and have been great so far very minimal noise on road been good in the wet, off road have been really good mainly done dirt roads so far but have handled great, with the thick side wall had to adjust my tyre pressures a little to suit not use to the tough side wall, did a small amound of beach driving in robe with the soft sand had to drop right down to 14-15psi
Great feedback. I’ve not got to do much with them yet.
Mount Buller is awesome!
Yeah
I've switched to an aggressive all terrain like these and it makes such an improvement on-road. I actually enjoy my freeway and onroad touring a LOT more these days. I've found the offroad performance isn't compromised enough to justify the noise, poor economy and handling issues onroad of a muddy.
That’s a great way to think about it
I'm still running highway tread on my Toyota 4Runner in Arizona I'll be watching to see how yours wear as that will be my next step in off roading.
Cool stay tuned.
Trying to decide between these and the mickey Thompson baja boss a/t... 🤔
LIKE WHAT WEIGHT THE TYES CARRY AS MY 4500KG ON 4X4 THANK YOU FOR TRUE VIDEO
The tread pattern on these look somewhat similiar to the now discontinued Kuhmo AT51's which in my experience has been a great combination both on and off road.
I can’t say on that but they’ve been a great tyre
I have those exact tyres on my dmax I've had them on for 40000 kms amazing tyres super quite and amazing grip is the wet. I must admit I haven't gone off road alot with them just haven't had the time. My tyres are 265/65/17 I also do have a set of muddies on steel rims that are 285 70 17 witch I will be upgrading to maxxis M/T when the account allows I find that's the best way to do it have a set of A/T's for Everyday use then a set of steel muddies for when you want to go out for a weekend
Certainly running two sets of wheels is a great solution. I’ve done that in the past too.
Are they nearly worn out ?
@@matangistation no not at all still got 60% left on the
I've been running Maxxis Razr AT's 285 70 17's on my 120 Series Prado (yes it actually does get used offroad! With Tommo Chivers and Kev Smith) for about 6 months. I absolutely love them, sooooo much better than the previous BFG K02's l was running. Really good on the black stuff in the wet, even at 40psi and while they do clog up in the mud- being an AT tyre, if you get the wheels spinning they eject it pretty well. Unfortunately the 120 is off the road for a bit as l start prep on it for some big trips planned later this year but I'm really glad you did this review, confirming what l felt about the Maxxis Razr AT.
It’s nice to see people with similar feelings ay
Much difference in the 70 vs the 65 ?
I've just ordered mine for 120 Prado but went the standard 65 size
@@boxz12 mate the 65's with be fine but the 70's give you a bit more ground clearance and bag out a bit more at lower pressures but you'll find them to be a great tyre regardless. Certainly not the best mud tyre but great on road, sand, rock and once you get them spinning on mud it helps eject mud from the tred just not as good as a mud tyre obviously 👍
@@copternutFPV Cheers mate I'm on standard height and that's why went for 65 . Thanks for info I'll stick with what I ordered Cheers
I have these exact same tyres including size on my HJ47 and have done around 15000km and they have been going great. I do a lot of rural fencing which means I’m in a lot of muddy, steep and rocky paddocks with a big load and they are chalk and cheese compared to my old crappy cheap tyres I used to run. Definitely go with them again. Even fixed the death wobble that no one seemed to be able to diagnose after countless re balancing and alignments.
Wow that’s impressive.
I had a front end wobble which no one could find the source. I had a wheel off at home and slowly pushed the tyre along and noticed it didnt roll smoothly. Turned out it was the tyres having some scalloping and no longer rolling smoothly. New tyres on the front and wobbles gone.
Mine are also fairly new at less than 2000km. Did a pretty steep rutted slippery climb recently after a solid night of rain around the Kenilworth area - dropped them down to 18psi - and I was actually surprised at how well they did. I was expecting to be sliding around like in your video, but it didn’t happen. I replaced a set of Cooper ST Maxx and I’ve got to say so far I’m much preferring the Maxxis Razr AT’s. We shouldn’t be having an MT vs AT discussion here - they’re different tyres for different applications, but comparing mud performance to other AT tyres, these perform brilliantly. I am a little concerned about how well they’ll wear, so keen to hear the long term review and from others with a bit of wear down range.
Great comment. Thanks
U need not worries, i run the europian version (worm drive) for around 100,000 km , changed 3 sets . Around 30,000 km u start feeling ,them getting old. More noise, less grip, and breaking time is longer . But untill 30,000 thay feel almost new. And i do off road trip once or twice a week.
thank you for the detailed video type are you around for heavy loads if the dirt road? tire carry 2000kg
I’d have to look into it Robert.
Matt thanks for another detailed review. I have only had my 285x65x18 AT's on my cruiser for 1200km, all bitumen driving but extremely happy with their on road dry and wet manners. One cooler morning I do believe a may have had slight flat spots in the tyres but these ran out after only a few kms of driving. I have a 3.5T van coming soon so I'm hoping the car will handle as it currently does which I'm extremely happy with. I was waiting on some Nitto Ridge Grapplers but after a 4 month wait decided to try the Maxxis ATs instead. At this stage I couldn't be happier with them and they look pretty aggressive for an AT as well. Keep up the great work. Cheers Paul 👍
Thanks for the info and feedback Paul
My boss just put these on his Triton and straight away we noticed just how many stones they were flicking up under the car. You definitely don’t want them hanging out past your guards with the wrong offset.
That’s really interesting to hear.
Howzit Matt, I'm nearly on 10 000km so far on my Razr 811's and so far zero issues. Did a trail last year that was only rock and had zero issues with grip. I had my tyre pressure at 1.4 Bar in front and 1.2 at the back. On the tar road, I run them 2.5 bar, and coming over from BF, I must admit, the grip is astonishingly better when cornering vs the BF. Will be testing them next weekend again on a clay and rock trail. Will definitely give you feed back again. Following you from South Africa 🤙
Great feedback thanks
I can’t decide between an AT or a MT. I understand the advantages on road but I live in Tassie and we have some of the roughest tracks in the country, so I want to ensure I have the grip when needed. I’m thinking an RT like the Toyo might be a better compromise 🤔
Yeah it’s a tough decision without running two sets of tyres
@@MadMatt4WD I wish I could afford to do that :/
Im very interested on this tires. For my jeep wrangler willys. But I'm not sure to pick P rate or Lt rate. Wich is heavier and spend more in gas
I’d be more worried about having a tyre that works well for what I do than the mileage variant. It would be hardly noticeable. Imo
8000km into owning these and happy with them for my use. I found they were a little noisier on bitumen than my highway terrains which they replaced but they got quieter after the first couple thousand km. They also tracked a little when brand new but were fine as they wore in. They do pick up the small pebbles as you mentioned and sometimes don't throw then easy. Less than 1mm tread wear after 8000km as far as I can tell. Glad you've put up this review. Even 6 months ago there was limited unbiased reviews around. Thanks for this
Thanks some really helpful insights and good to see we’re experiencing similar. I’ve not noticed any tracking issues.
@@MadMatt4WD I reconsidered that term. I'd described it as return-to-centre for the steering wheel wasn't as quick until they wore a little bit. This on a 2018 Pajero
Ah ok.
Hey matt. I run the same tyre in the 17inch on my 105. How are u going with tyre pressure. My running 35psi at moment but not sore if i could benefit from a lower setting.
I’m sitting at 35 and it seems good
i have noticed that the tread yall run over there aren't near as aggressive as the tires used in the US do you have any idea why that is. also haven't noticed very many Jeeps
I feel like saying because we’re not trying to show off but that’s not true. We do have guys running trepadors and the like onroad.
Do you have any update on how the tires are going for you, are they wearing well and do you have thoughts on how many kms you would expect to get from them?
They’re doing really well. I’ve easy done 25000ks with no concerns.
Had 771 AT and they were good on gravel and seal but no good on grass, dirt, whoud like to know tread depth and mileage at half tread
Ok cool will measure.
Whats the best A/T tire youve tested for the mud?
This is the only one so far. Just assume an ay will be nominal in mud.
I just put a set of these on my troopcarrier and I can't fault them
It’ll be good to hear what you think in 20k of driving.
It's about a year later. Time for that long term review?
Ok you’ve talked me into it. 😍 fyi I’m still happy
I’m in the market now for a set of these for my Disco. It’s the Maxxis or Falken Wildpeak AT3W. I’m not sure which way to go. Falken is a lot cheaper, but I hear good things about the Maxxis. What are your thoughts/recommendations?
I can only comment on the Maxxis as per the review. Never run the Falkens.
One of my falkens have a massive bubble in the sidewall and Falken customer service is hopeless
I couldn’t get the Razor AT’s off my car quick enough. They are definitely not suited to a 3T+ independent sprung vehicle. First one popped off road after 500km and they were hideous at 10,000km on road. I ended up giving them away
Wow. I sit around 3t and they’ve been superb. Did you talk to Maxxis about the issues.
@@MadMatt4WD yeah, they know. I’ll give them points for warranty as they replaced the popped tyre at no charge.
How does this tyre compare to the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac?
No idea. Never run the duratrac
I was very disappointed in the wear rate on hard gravel they chipped to the point of buggered at 40000 k they are fitted on a single cab 79 carrying a reasonable amount of weight going to give the muds a go hope the blocks won’t chip away as quick as the at’s with there fine tread moulds in them horses for courses I guess
That’s really interesting to hear. What pressure did you run? Generally around 35-38 cold is the go. Or use the 4psi rule as a guide
Has there been a follow up yet on how they’ve performed and worn in the long term?
I’ve filmed it and now just need to get it edited. But I’ve got nothing bad to say about them. They’re a great tyre.
@@MadMatt4WD awesome!! Thanks so much for that simple feedback. I’m tire shopping now and I think I’ll give these a go!
My pleasure and I’m confident you’ll be very happy.
Do the tires come with a snow rating? 3PMSF Symbol?
I’d have to investigate. I’m sure they do. It may be on the website. We don’t get much snow where I live.
@@MadMatt4WD Just look for the little snowflake on the sidewall, if there is no snow flake, they dont have the rating :-) Edit: just checked, they are rated as a winter tire with the 3PMSF symbol. But they are not yet availiable in Europe.
Got them on my 02 Grand Cherokee V8. About 1500ks on them so far. Due to where I live in NZ, I do a lot of sand. They work very well there as you would think. There are 2 versions of these and I have the heavier LT one. Yesterday we did a farm Safari that had more wet clay and mud than expected. IMO they performed very well. I had them at 25psi. We had one hard LH turn up a wet clay bank that a good few were failing at. I let the V8 sing and we crawled up just fine. Maybe try some different pressures in the mud? I would like some muddies but dont do enough to warrant them.
Great comment and I’ll mess with pressures.
@@MadMatt4WD agree on the stones though. They dont seem to eject very well.
Could we get a walk through the cruiser?
It’s on the channel...(edit) it turns out that maybe I haven't done a full walk around on the 105 since the original one when I bought it. I will get onto that, but it will probably be a couple of months away as I am out doing a desert trip in another vehicle.
Is it noisy on the asphalt ??.. & what about on wet asphalt Is it Slippery Sir ??…
Not in my experience. Watch the follow up review I did.
Finding the right doughnuts is always a tricky conundrum’s for today’s four wheel drivers .would love more info on the ply ratings available in this sort of tyre .As A mechanic by trade I agonised over this more than I should .But have seen inside to many good tyres with great mileage left on them.But have failed due to the walls letting go as the ply case fails before the tread wears out
That sounds Like issues with to low a pressure. All that info in on the website so no need to repeat it here imo.
I would like to know how many punctures you got during their lifetime.
So far none.
What I'm hearing is that if tackling off road tracks is secondary to touring/commuting in your vehicle then you should get an AT, but if you're primary intention is to tackle hard 4x4 tracks then go for a MT? Is that about right? My 4x4 is my only off road vehicle and I use it for everything but I love hitting the harder tracks. Because performance in hard tracks is a priority for me, I'd think MTs are still a good idea. I do have a second smaller road car for day to day commuting too so that adds to the algebra I think.
To a fair extent that’s correct the only variation I’d say would be if you don’t ever see mud.
@@MadMatt4WD It's a good (?) thing I live in Victoria then haha... The mud state :P
Do you chase mud? Yuk
@@MadMatt4WD I don't go out of my way to avoid it at any rate 😅
Glad you did not try to push the car for testing its tyres here in Ballina area- on the open road given most days you will be hard pressed to get past 60km/hr. You do need good brakes though because despite no one on a roundabout or on an open road people suddenly brake for no reason often from their pet 60km/hr to almost stand still! LOLLZZZ. By the way despite this you pass more highway patrol and mobile speed cameras than anywhere else especially where there has been a few accidents. Figure that!
Gee. I’ll avoid the area.
I rather use a AT Bridgestone than maxxis I would let maxxis focus on dirt bikes
Why do you say that? Many of us are finding them to be a great tyre as per the comments here.
@@MadMatt4WD maybe per two reason 1- I may be an ignorant but in terms of a valuable tires companies Maxxis is not even top 10 worldwide 2- I prefer to use a tire from a very recognized and top 5 valuable companies that makes tires, like Michelin, Bridgestone, and few more that I believe will give me more trust while riding my own car Just saying and like I say, maybe I’m ignorant but that’s what I research in this way because gives me more peace putting good shoes on a car
@@lugabullfair enough. I’ve got complaints and I too don’t like crap. Trust me you’d know if I wasn’t happy.
very brave to position a Toyota like that with the handbrake hahaha
Haha. We had it chocked at the back