Here's Why Everybody Hates the 2000 Mercedes-Benz S-Class W220
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Mercedes-Benz S-Class W220 review! The W220 S-Class is the S-Class model that everyone hates. Today I'm reviewing the S600, and I'm going to show you why this car is so controversial -- and so hated. I'm going to take you on a thorough tour of the W220 S-Class, and then I'll get it out on the road and drive it -- and I'll show you what it's like behind the wheel of the 2001 S600.
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Nobody I know hates or hated the 2000 Mercedes W220
Facts. Was baller af like any current gen models: When you're current and top no one hating other than lower folk, and f them anyhow cause they're hating for what they don't have
That settles it!
Exactly! Idk why he paints the w220 to be a critically panned car that everyone hated the minute it went on sale. The S-class has always been and always will be the benchmark, and the w220 is no exception. He has such a stupid, myopic, and biased take on the S-class and yet he gushes about all the tech and innovations. He and a few others might not like this generation of S-Class nowadays, but this era of Mercedes was ICONIC, and I *guarantee* you they were singing a different tune back in the day.
It looks better than latest (2021) s class. Doug is too judgemental.
@@supermilkchan123 i mean, you pretty much laid it out, i don't know anyone that hates the w220, this is the first im hearing of it
The Owner: "Oh boy I can't wait for Doug to review my car" Doug: "THIS is the most hated Mercedes Benz in history" The owner: 😢
Be me:
@@thomaskoutsoukis8976 I'm sorry m8
@@therealmudafuka7200 And I recently bought it too... But, I love the styling, I got a diesel so it's kinda economic, and I have all the good extras. Oh and, the car has no rust, so I'm happy.
@@thomaskoutsoukis8976 I had the twin turbo s600 and couldn't imagine a diesel lol hows the power ???
@@thomaskoutsoukis8976 it is a good car especially the Diesel version.
Even Top Gear and Jeremy Clarkson was amazed by this W220, it was by far the most advanced car of the 20th century. It’s only issues were reliability and quality control, due to Mercedes financial issues of the time. I personally love the styling and the interior design, it’s unique.
"It’s only issues were reliability and quality control," Those are two of the most important factors in whether or not a car is any good.
@@almassengale I don’t disagree. But when it did work it was the most luxurious and advanced car of the century, by far.
@@Forge17 It was brought on to the market after the millennium- not the 20th century - the 21st century. Ive never owned a W220 or even been in one, but I owned a 1999 BMW 5 series E39, and i'd prefer it over a W220 S Class.
@@StefenFoy21car was released in 1998.
yeah, critical in fighting Lexus.
I've owned my 2000 S-500 for 18 years, reliable, same double spark plugs for 15 years, Air struts also lasted about 14 years, great car. Couldn't ask for more. Replaced small parts , water pump, and radiater , at about 8-10 years of service. Same serpenstine belt still in there, after 22 years in service.
You’d recommend buying the s600 2001 v12?
@@capps s600 is trap, s500 is better
@capps yeah id go with the s500
@@mariocarreno95 how about the s430? I’m having a hard time finding the s500 so might check the 430 out. Is it as reliable as the 500?
@jellyjam5338 id say so, its mainly just a difference in the engine
In terms of looks, the EQS makes this look like a masterpiece.
Because it is
One is the nicest looking cars idk how Doug dosnt see that this car is sick looking Benz and Lexus make bangers
Eqs is so trash looking
It definitely aged better than the EQS
@@michaelplace4754 Look at the rear fenders and roof, all one piece. This thing is so beautiful in person.
I loved this car and still do. It's a beautiful car and if you fix a few things, super reliable - even more so than the W140.
Absolutely love it too...I think it looks stunning.
I disagree it looks like a blobby piece of shit
My 2006 s350 has 300k and rolling strong
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For sure
I HAD THIS CAR IN 2003. IT WAS EVERYWHERE! MOVIES, MUSIC VIDEOS! I LOVED IT!
Beautiful body style, so sleek. I hope they've become collectable, at least the petrol ones.
Literally never heard any hate on this car. My dad has one just like this almost 300k miles
The hate is from the "car community" who see third and fourth owners completely ignore the maintenance and upkeep required on a vehicle like this. I sense there's a bit of disguised racism and classism as well.
it just looks really lame
@@panameadeplm But we are talking about W220 and not Tesla.
@@DctorSkillz1 are you for real?
@@DctorSkillz1 disguised racism? WTF?
I had the S55 AMG version of this car. Honestly, it was the best car I’ve ever owned. The power, comfort and styling was like nothing else on the road. I loved it.
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you "OWNED" it. Thats says everything right there/./
I currently have an S55. I love the car
Awesome. It's cool how many of the features lasted and set the standard for future cars. Unfortunately I don't think that can be said for the new S-class, which is mostly gimmicks that won't last.
I owned a mortgage company around this time and I had a bank rep that bought an S430 but put an S600 badge on the back and it always made me laugh at how ridiculous he was. Thanks for the memories Doug👍
I just recently bought a 2000 S500 for my wife and we absolutely love it. I think it is far better looking than the previous years. It is very comfortable and is amazingly quick for it's size. It just turned 91000 miles and is in great condition for a 22 year old car.
Hey Doug. I actually like The Styling! While having lunch in Philly Last Summer, a W V12 happened to be driving down south street, and I wasn't the only one whose head was turning to look at it as it drove past. Twenty-plus years after its debut and it's still stands out, as something special, and the obvious reason for that, is that it is something, special. It's a beautiful looking LUXURY automobile. And the optional V12, just adds to it's beauty.
Had a 2001 s500 with the exact color/combo and equipment as this and rims and bumpers. I thought it was a beautiful car and still do. Never gave me issues minus the air ride.
@@Acs2046 I loved mine. The vacuum locking fuel door was a pain.
@Alex Fracyon did u just say it looked better than W140? Like no way
@@detonater1348 this is better than w211 I own one same silver. build quality is ass
This is actually my favorite S class ever! It looks better in and out than the w140. And the interior is more durable than that of the w221-222 etc. The w220 is just the right S class. I just don't understand why people say that it's the worst ever... It's actually the best in my opinion. It doesn't try to hard, and that what speaks to me. 1. W220 2. W140 3. W221 4. W222 5. THE DISPOSABLE W223
@@detonater1348 , I think this looks a lot better than the W140. That previous gen had very awkward lines.
Doug: everybody hates this car! Everybody: I love this car!
I dont like it. Do you see the cheap and ugly plastic buttons?
@@scrubplaceholder6216 No reason not to buy a masterpiece.
@@scrubplaceholder6216 what do you drive?
@@scrubplaceholder6216 Are plastic buttons seriously the best argument you can use against this car?
@@scrubplaceholder6216 oh and what do you drive today ? Something with more plastic than this thing..
im litterally in love with the W220. and i NEED one
I own one and I absolutely love it. Nothing ever wrong with it. Most comfortable ride ever for a daily driver.
Doug is the kind of guy that rants about the very same "cheap plastic buttons" that were used in the W140 too ...
Haha thats the one!
It is not RR or Bentley, but luxury does go forward from car series to the next one so that is normal. You need to compare it to BMW from that time.
I was thinking the exact same thing...also, have you seen the Interior materials?? The stitching?? The leather and napa??? How on earth is that low quality?
ye idk what he's on about with low quality and most hated, those where the times and it was extremely advanced and luxurious like he later showed in the video
The W140 development started 1986. 12 years prior the W220 was published
I totally disagree. I’ve always loved this generation, especially the ones towards the end of the run with the newer tail lights.
This is a gorgeous S-class, specially the rear end.
This is one of my favorite Mercedes-Benz ever, if not one of my favorite sedans ever built. It's a shame that people dislike the car, especially considering that the original Maybach was built on this cars' platform.
@@MazharHuq The original Maybach (W240) was based on the larger W140 platform, rather than the smaller W220 platform.
@@yungboicontigo9278 its the circle(jerk) of life(or car enthusiasts)
@@sultanqasim It was based on both almost equally, actually
Completely disagree! The W220 S class was and still is an amazing car, timeless design. Pure elegance and class
Could not agree more. The W220 is a beautiful Mercedes.
not really a timeless dedign....
Not sure what Doug is talking about here. The W220 is absolutely gorgeous compared to the one that came immediately after.
I have the same and it is the most reliable car I've ever driven. Never had an issue besides the air suspension at 170.000 miles. I do all the repairs and regular maintenance myself and it costs an average of 1000 dollars per year, besides gas of course. It has 250.000 miles at the moment and still drives as smoothly as new!
Depending on what engine you have there are at least 12 issues that can completely render you car useless that will happen including the gearbox, the abc controls, the ignition coils, the diff ...
I have the 2006 S500 4matic and the car has been superb (only 200K Kms or 125K miles). I too am a wrencher and the only issue has been the fussy air suspension but, not of the type of hiccups that would leave any one stranded. Generally speaking, a key cycle gets rid of any "visit workshop" error code that the air suspension may produce from time to time (to be on the safe side I put a new compressor in, they are not expensive). This is a go anywhere, anytime car.
What engine did yours have?
@@the007connoisseur The m112 engine : 3.2 liters with 6 cylinders. I live in Europe where this engine suits perfectly.
@@greathey1234 no clue what you’re talking about. Having owned the 430 ABC and 500 Airmatic variant I’ve had no issues mechanically. Like op stated just regular maintenance. The Daimler era was the most reliable. The 722.X transmissions and M11X engines were the best. Although I cannot say for the V12 (haven’t had the opportunity yet) Having owned the 2001 SLK230 (172k mi) 2001 S430 (200k mi) 2002 S500 (94k mi) 2003 CLK500 (140k mi) 2003 SL500 (165k mi) 2001 C320 (175k mi) 2002 C320 (84k mi) I cannot stress enough to buy these beautiful machines. Or better yet! Don’t so they stay terribly cheap to buy still! 😂
I think it looks very elegant , compared to the current EQS !!
A Yugo looks better than EQS.😂
It looks like a poor man’s Russian mafia mobile
Agreed, and I like this body style much more than the succeeding generation that came out in 2007.
Almost every Benz looks way better than EQS lol !!
@@yungboicontigo9278 Why won't you try compare that to a Nissan Juke instead of a Supra?
The styling of this car just seemed to be a natural evolution from the W140's. A bit sleeker, more modern design but still very much a Mercedes. Considering the hideous front end on the restyled W210 E-Class, the W220 is a flippin work of art. I know there are a ton of problems with the air suspension when they get old, but I still lust after a W220 S65 AMG and would gladly buy one if I had the cash available (and in reserve for the repairs).
I recall the E-class that came out at around the same time period (W210-211) also had a more rounded design than its predecessor, before reverting to a more boxy design in 2009
@@lzh4950 The W210 was a very weird styling change from the W124 E Class it replaced and my scorn for it resides squarely on the headlights. The round lights are just plain weird! The W211 did a much better job but, IMO, they didn't get the E-Class right again until the W212.
It still looks like with all the features this car is still years ahead of many modern cars. I don't like how this s class looks from outside but I am sure it felt very comfortable inside back in those years.
Count me in, too, I didn't know anyone really hated this car. It's pretty sharp and follows design philosophy/style of Mercedes at the time period.. when you see one in black floating down the road still it's hard not to turn your head for a look. I've heard a lot more stories of how long these last compared to issues. They seem to still be pretty reliable, just like a lot of other older Mercedes cars. Well, everyone has opinions. I'd certainly drive one.. it'd make my W210 jealous.
rustbuckets (some had door replacements under warranty for rust issues) with biodegrading wiring harness, 12pack coil unit on each side, early years airmatic and a bunch more early 2k mercedes trivia.
Really besides the active body control system it’s decently reliable
A CL from the same generation looks 100x better. Although I don’t hate the S class
@@sylvianblade75 That CL is incredible! The 65 is a dream car!
Never. The w210 is far superior, no Airbags, and to me the fit and finish on the 210 is better…I dunno though, I may be biased due to my daily driver AMG 210. As it is, just hit 100k mileage (super low for year 2000), and all the pixels on the dash work…a rarity in these models.
As Ed Bolian has proven many times, just because a car is "mechanically totaled" doesn't mean that it won't run and drive.
I drive my cars until they are like Flintstones mobiles!!! (
That's because these don't need most of the electrical subsystems to run (interior luxury amenities, etc.). Bolian's S55 had ABC which is the most unreliable part of them. If it's a non-AMG airmatic car the basic pneumatic system is far more reliable, cheaper, and easier to work on. Most reliable S-Class generation mechanically.
Actually is one of my fav old school cars ever. How can someone hate this car?!
i've had one for over a decade and LOVE IT !
I once had a W220 S600 facelift and loved it. My daughters called it the flying carpet. I also like the design better than from the W140 and the W221. However, quality is an issue, not only interior material, but also rust.
Doug: “This S-Class is the worst one they’ve made” Also Doug: “All of these features were extremely uncommon in 2000!”
Then gives it 5 out 10 for features...
@@mp4986 I know made no sense!
This is why I watch this channel : not for advice or opinion or score...etc ! juste curiosity about the cars ! lol
Uncommon doesn't equal good, and features aren't everything. As for 5/10 rating, if you haven't noticed, Doug rates all cars by modern day standards. Sure, if we still were in 2001, it would probably get 9 or even 10 for features, but we're in 2022. My moms car has some of those "amazing and futuristic" features, despite it isn't brand new and is just a small crossover. This does make sense for easy comparison of cars from different eras without some "era-bias".
@@mp4986 that I understand because he always reviews by todays perspective, but it’s just funny
Funny thing is, to me, as a kid at the time this was THE iconic S-Class.
Me to idk what drugs is talking about
I owned a gold version of this car and I loved it. Got rid of it because it got way to costly to fix. My Mercedes repair guy told me to get rid of it ASAP and he was 100% right!!! The drive was incredbile though. That's true about if you wanna know what cars will have in the next 10 years, look at what the S class has. Also, I had the later version. It was super fast too and the take off was incredible.
This was the car I wanted when I was in high school and I love a naturally aspirated v12. My father in law has this exact one with the exact same options. It is still perfect. Going to buy it.
Hmm that’s odd. Personally I think the styling of this S class is timeless. It’s modern enough to not look dated but doesn’t look as vintage as it’s predecessor. I think it’s an incredibly clean and elegant exterior design.
@@yungboicontigo9278 Not according to the guy who designed it, bro. Mr. Sacco stated the W140 turned out "about 4" too tall", and he was very proud when he was able to correct that with the W220.
The headlight are really weird. Considering Mercedes Benz at the time are more well known for the dual round headlights that was started on W210 E-class
Yeah. It looks way better than the newer models yet the previous one looks quite dated now.
Doug: "This is the worst S-Class ever built. In particular when compared to the previous W140 model." Also Doug: Rates it higher than the W140
Pretty sure it was because the W220 he reviewed was in better shape than the W140 he reviewed
He was mostly hating on the Styling and Quality. Other than that everything was still a step forward it seems
@@owennilens8892 I personally dont mind the styling. It's not the worst
@@owennilens8892 I actually prefer the styling of this to the W140 and W221. It's simple enough without looking bloated. And the W140 looks too boxy, IMO.
After 2007 the s class are straight garbage
My dad still drives the v8 version of this and let me tell you one thing, all of those little gadgets are broken. The folding cup holders are stuck open, the retracting ac control knob is stuck closed. the gloves boxes dont close or open well, the ac vents are in pieces, and a cassete has been stuck in the player for 10 years. I think the true reason why this car was hated is because of the over complicated engineering. They wanted to see just how detailed they could make a car, and it didnt work out that well. The overcomplication of this car extends to the engine as well, and although it is really a relic of this era of luxury cars, its good we are past this era.
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Doug - "I hate something so everybody hates it" I loved the w220 S-class. It was beautiful and head turning in a good way.
Parents still have one, had it for 17 years. no issues, drives great. Dunno why Doug says it is hated. Its beautiful and the looks held up well
I mean he’s right, most people def consider this the worst one
We had a 2006, brilliant car. Only thing that needed replacing was the ABC, other than that solid car if you maintain it well.
found the rich kid
my friend slammed his to the floor to the point were he wore a hole through the rear diff. Still drives like brand new even through all that nonsense not to mention it looks great in person!!
@@16BitOG found the salty kid
Imagine being the owner of this exact car. Keeping it in such great shape all these years just so Doug can take a fat dump all over it on youtube.
Idk what Doug is talking about. That car is absolutely beautiful 🤩
Who cares what doug thinks!?...his opinion means dogshit to real car enthusiasts
You said it brother
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Doug is being stupid day by day.
I’m a BMW fan but even I can say that this particular S class I have always appreciated. If I had spare funds I would buy one as a collectors . People say mercs don’t have a good tail end but this one is class - S Class . And the silhouette on point .
Was Dad's new, now mine, the '06 W220 perhaps addressed many of the problems the earlier models of Doug's "cut-rate nightmare" had. Mines the 5.0 and I thoroughly enjoy AirMatic and drive around on the sport setting all the time. It's like on rails going around a turn. My only complaints are no backup assistance whatsoever. And it goes through tires like crazy!
I agree same year I got lexus , bmw , audi had it not s500 just park sensors smh
I haven't met a single person or seen mass internet comments denouncing the styling of the w220. I found it incredible when it came out. Doug, THIS is wrong!
I thought that was an odd comment too. If anything, the W221 receives more criticism because of the fender bulges.
agreed, literally never heard a bad word about it nor its reliability. Sometimes I do wonder if these comments he makes are conjured more from his own personal experience, rather than an objective general outlook. Also gonna note that this in fact was not the first car with ventilated seats, that goes to the SAAB 9-5, but I guess Doug also forgot to research that before he announced the S class as "Pioneer and to his belief the first in the world". Sometimes it really does feel like he just skimps over stuff these days for the sake of adding more material to his reviews, rather than true quality.
no, it looks like shit now as it did then
@@Real_MisterSir he also stated about the LED tail lights. The 2000 Caddy Deville beat this to market with LED brake AND turn signals. Night vision too...
no, the car looks disgusting, almost as ugly as the new models of mercedes and bmw
I remember when it was released in late 1998, it was a piece of art, a spaceship, and the technology was far ahead the competition. It was one of the first cars with easy entry, soft close doors, screens... Even the interior design was futuristic. Maybe compared to the new cars it is now a "deja vu", but back in 1999 it was a beautiful inside out car, with one of the most powerful drivetrains. You have to compare it to the cadillacs and the lincolns even lexus of the late nineties to figure out that it was marvelous. Cadillacs were still having the two keys one rouded for the doors and one squared for the ignition 😂
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W140 had soft closing doors as well and 1995 Honda CR-V had bigger navigation screen with remote controls
Well, to be fair, Lincoln and Cadillac were starting to focus their attention on something more visually game-changing at the time, SUV's. The Escalade and the Navigator were the talk of the town back then and Mercedes didn't really take their SUV's very seriously at the time with the ML and G series vehicles.
Looks ok….. not a great S class but a decent car
I’m disappointed in Doug’s negative view of the w220. They were so nice back when they came out and were so much nicer than any of the competition.
I've always been a toyota guy and just last year I accidentally ended up having w220 s320 in my hands. I instantly wanted to sell it, nobody wanted to buy it... so I fixed it and kept it. Now I kinda love it. The quality is way better than any toyota I have ever driven (which doesnt say much, but whatever lol) and I still keep finding new features in it... such as those little hidden compartments which I didnt know about. I've never really considered myself to be a MB person but I guess the S-class kinda hits me different.
I got a 2005 S430 and love it. I did do the arnott coilover conversion kit and let me tell you arnott did a good job making this kit to replace the air ride. Drives like a dream 💭
The facelift of the W220 is one of my dreamcars. It just looks gorgeous.
This S Class was absolutely gorgeous when it came out. The previous S Class was trying to hold onto the past and was playing cautious with styling trying not alienate their older customer base. This S Class was a reach into the future finally allowing them to stay ahead of the competition ie Lexus.
It's still gorgeous. It receives hate because of old myths. Bruno Sacco's last sedan design. It has the Sacco touch but for an era where drag coefficient and reduced frontal area is paramount.
W140 was designed in the extroverted 80s. W220 still looks nice, inoffensive presence 👌
What..u compared a benz to a Lexus..lmao
Still looks better than the present S-Class.
@@yrasphong , well, yes. Lexus redefined the luxury car for this segment of the market. Mechanically, the LS400s were superb pieces of engineering. They were precision pieces and when you took the apart the engine these it showed.
Have on myself, and love it. Sure i have to fix the airsuspension and rust, but the feeling when you start it with the 5,0 v8 and straight pipe and the feeling when you drive it makes it all worth it. And sooo comfortable, have fixed most rust and changed the aircompressor, valveblock, 2 airstruts and all the level sensors. Just have to calibrate it now 😁
And the interior still looks like new and everything works flawlessly except air suspension and AC due to a leaking line
Don’t know what Doug is talking about. I know nobody that HATED this s class. Look wise this s class wasn’t bad.. they looked quite nice, especially with AMG packages on them. The new front and rear lights added later enhanced its looks. Personally I think it looks better than the s class that is out now. This one in the vid was an early one. I have heard bad things about the air suspension but that’s about it.
Ditto.
Doug: This car build cheaply for cost cutting. Me: Build quality way better than any car produce today.
Bit of an exaggeration but i see your point
Is he ok??? I’ve never heard of anyone hating this car. One of our neighbors had a S500 back in 2002 and it was the IT car for a lot of people back then. Not sure I agree with this video, but we all have different opinions 🤷🏽♂️.
I was detailing cars at the local Benz dealership when this was still in production and never heard negative criticisms aside from the air ride system failing. Always loved it personally.
Not sure he's ok. He wears two t-shirts and dresses like a child.
These cars are a nightmare to own today, unlike their predecessors. Just look at the depreciation.
So, you know ONE W220 owner? Not for nothing did it gain its bad reputation
Thing is, saying everyone hates something is not an opinion, it's an objective statement which is either true or false.
LOL. This is my favorite S-Class of all. I consider its exterior styling to be the best too, rather than the worst. Another beautiful Mercedes in terms of exterior styling is the Mercedes W126. Also, the phrase _very nice looks_ can apply to the Rolls-Royce Cornish V, in my opinion, but there's no accounting for taste. What looks nice for one guy might look ugly for another. So, I'm giving this review a like, as beauty is in the eye of the beholder anyway.
Who tf hated this car🤨
Exactly
I actually have always thought that this was the most attractive looking S-Class ever made. The one before it looked very 1980’s with all the boxy edges. The one after had an odd shape to the rear end.
Just needs some nice wheels and it looks good
@@dirkvanviersen671 does have nice wheels
Better looking than latest s class
Agreed. It was my favorite. I get nostalgic seeing one.
I 100% agree with this statement. The previous S Class was trying to hold onto the past and was playing cautious with styling trying not alienate their older customer base. This S Class was a reach into the future finally allowing them to stay ahead of the competition.
Hated? Never knew anyone that hated this beauty. This thing was ahead of its time. And still looks beautiful! As long as you did the yearly maintenance it will take care of you. Plain and simple. Thats in all cars. You just have to take care of them. I still have my 08 mercedes e350 and has over 140k miles on it. And it still drives buttery smooth and still get compliments.
140k is nothing for modern standards 🤣
@@dirtyorganboy2264 ok i seen those cars with 300k kms which is 200k something miles
Yeah it was hated. Alot of old Benz are
Very well said!My S320 maintenance costs are typically ~100$ per year.Well built car,with one of the best engines(M112/113) and transmissions MB has ever built.So, I don´t really understand this myth about "budget Mercedes".
I was driven in a W211 E Class taxi with over 400.000km (250.000+ miles) on the clock last year. This thing looked brand new inside. Like really brand new. The wood looked great, the leather without any damage, the steering wheel wasn't worn out. Somebody took really good care of this car.
This is a car that you should only get in black or dark blue with beige interior and 19” wheels (but not the AMGs) for the design to work out. I’ve seen it in silver, I’ve seen it in white, burgundy or even red with various interiors but definitely black or dark blue with light beige interior makes for the best aspect. When you turn on the interior lights during the evening, the light beige seats will just stand out, for people outside the car to see. But I agree it did feel a bit shy compared to BMWs bulky 7th series from 2002 onwards.
yeah need certain colors, and the most important option (depending on year) is xenon lights. I recently bought a 02 S500 Lorinser thats black on black with the xenons and such and love it! Most of these w220s for sale or on road look plain jane white or silver with the plastic cheap looking lights or the ABC cars slammed on ground stereotypically haha.
man you can't hate a Mercedes,in my country everyone loves Mercedes
Wow, I am surprised to find out this particular version was so hated. I mean I always liked how this car looked.
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It was never hated.As you can read above,it certainly isn´t now.Of course then,and now,some owners like their luxury cars to look really big.
It wasn't. Just Doug it seems (at least if we go by general opinion)
@@matsujarvinen Yeah, judging from the general consensus from the comments, it is a well liked car.
@@Real_MisterSir judging from the comments, I guess so, lol
As someone who has a W220, it’s one of the best and smoothest drives you will have. Obviously the car being 22 years old, some things have broken but it’s still an amazing car for what you can pick them up for today.
The only problem is the suspension
@@bbb_258people just don't know how to diagnose them
I’ve always thought this one looked so much better than the previous one.
I own one of this w220 and love everything of it ... body styling is great remarkable driving experience and also good reliability ... some issue with the instrument cluster but thats about it.
I dunno, the air suspension in my w220 was sometimes a pain to deal with. But I loved the car, i think the facelifted version still has some of the most stylish looking taillights that the S class family ever came out it. beautiful machine
Definitely a waste of money. If people didn't have such a sensitive rear maybe they could save a few thousand dollars.
I had a 2004 e320 with the famed air suspension, it eventually broke of course, replaced it with coils and it was so much better.
@@703fishing3 Really? Most people say the opposite?
@@Ummmmmkay88 Strutmasters make an incredible one, you can buy the bc ones but they're built for performance not every day driving so they are of course rough. The strutmasters are what I had and that thing rode like a bentley after that.
@@703fishing3 Awesome I’ll check it out. Thanks
This is my favorite s-class. It was clean and wasn’t oversized like the current ones
This vid is just straight up propaganda for w220 W220 is an masterpiece He says it looks like a kia ffs. look at the 2021 "s class" it straight up stretchened A class
The style is not a real Mercedes. Like a Kia yes. The end of Mercedes is 1995
@@antoniocalimero1173 lol you're entitled to your opinion. But, Mercedes style has always been understated.
@@salamov963 I disagree. The new one looks just as good as the ones before. And Mercedes always look similar.
That's kind of a dumb reason to like an sclass
Strange. As I remember it back in the day. This car was seen as a great improvment regarding looks. The former model was boxy and too heavy looking. This also looked great compared to the new BMW 7-series that came a couple of years later. The one thing I really dont like with the W220 (or any Mercedes of that time) is the way they tend to rust.
I just purchased a one owner 2001 S500 Designo interior Espresso with 35k original miles. Stunning car. Got a few small items to work out but what a beautiful car and a fantastic driver. It will be my daily for years.
It’s so weird I prefer this design rather then the newer ones. It is timeless design. Still holding very well. The colour combo and the power it holds is amazing
Same. I think it looks handsome yet simple and masculine.
Same. I love this design era for Mercedes, they are unmistakable for any other marque and have grown up, beautiful, classy style.
Way sleaker than a w140. They will be appreciated in the future :)
My wife and I are of the same mind as you with regards to the styling. I like the exterior of the W220 much better than the blase W221 but, I give the better interior looks and quality to the W221.
couldn't disagree more with everything you said LOL
This was my first S Class and I still have it, it has 340k miles on it and still drives smooth! Yup the air suspension did give me a problem at around 200k miles but apart from that it's been amazing! I absolutely love this car and the styling
You Benz should star in one of Doug's tests!
What’s your year and engine? That’s awesome
One fun fact is that these never had blank switches…. I own a base model usdm S430…. with the only “extra” being it’s a long wheelbase and the switch panel seems to be custom made to whatever amount of options you chose….
Headlights were a little weird in this generation, but my grandmother drove a white one of these and it’s what started my fascination with Mercedes Benz when I was little lol
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This is actually the first time I've ever disagreed with Doug. This is one of the most beautiful S Classes ever made. Doug should set aside his personal bias and should speak to actual owners of this car.
Agreed. All he had to do is talk to actual owners and they'll tell the real story.
The w220 was and still is, a great car.
gorgeous car
Absolutely the point i made above. Completely disagree, he should speak to owners of this beauty.
Ugly ass looking interior.
I think Doug mentioned mostly everything. Compared to the W140, it wasn’t as imposing. I think the W221 is the best as it combines both the subtleness of this car with the toughness of the W140. I think that their intention with the W220 was too also make it more sporty. It’s kinda funny because if you look at the 7-Series E65, its like BMW wanted to become more like an S-Class and the S-Class wanted to become more like the 7-Series. Almost like a personality swap
Most sensible comment in the whole thread. THHHHISSSS... is what Doug was talking about. Yes, most prior S Class owners felt this way, and no, nothing about Doug's review hints at racism.
So true. Actually the interior of every BMW at the time, very square and symmetrical, looked so much more premium and at complete odds with the rounded/American looking interiors of the W220/W211/W203
@@fruitpunch5260 Having had experience with both W220 S and W211 E, I must admit that I liked the latter more. It felt more solid and imo better looking. I don’t think the W220 looks all that bad, but I never liked how the door lines integrate into the roofline and not go around the windows. I think that also contributes towards the slight color mismatch between the front doors and side fenders. The W211 and W221 fixed that.
I think the model after.. that got a facelift eventually, but barely changed it.. and still had the same interior, which was a 7 Series was direct competitor and had an awesome interior in comparison !
I have had several W220 from back in the day up until 2019. First was the 2004 S660 biturbo. Amazing car back then and had 0 problem with it then i sold it when it was about 4 years old and had 50k miles. Then in around 2015 got several S280, S320L and S350L. The pre facelift S320 was rather bland but i bought it just because it only had 15k miles on it. It was relatively ok, but definitely not as satisfying as any post facelift W220. The other W220 i had were all the facelifted version and even today i can still recommend a facelifted W220 for anyone who wants it but just make sure the car had been very very well taken care of. My friend got a very cheap 05 S350L and as the price reflected, the condition was poor. When you deal with a poorly kept W220, it really doesnt matter how much money you are willing to spend to take it back to mint condition because it will just never happen.
This one, especially in AMG form was always my favorite. I guess it depends on when you grew up
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Doug complains this “hated” S-Class generation doesn’t have a touch screen, but no S-Class had a touchscreen until the newest model introduced 6 months ago. Mercedes never believed in reaching so far across the dash when your eyes should be kept on the road, hands on steering wheel. Remote buttons on the wheel was the long term ergonomic principle for the tactile feedback touchscreens omit. That’s what made these 2000’s interiors so desirable- intuitive control without the disgusting fingerprints and glaring reflections.
even the w222? I don't remember, but I doubt that
Most of the hate for the W220 is down to quality issues that were fixed by 2000. I'd have a well-kept W220 over the new S Class any day.
Thank you!
@@jordanbell4420 The hate also comes from corrosion protection issues, but those were fixed by 2003. Even the earlier cars varied wildly. They overestimated the lifespan of the cathodic dip solution and got the formula wrong. Some cars were well-protected. Some weren't. Mechanically great cars.
I bet you people on the comments do actually murder people for driving newer cars.
I miss my 2000 S500 it gave me hell as far as repairments because I bought for 6,500 back in 2012 like electric system and the somatic air pump and air bag leaks under the wheels. Overall the motor was tuff 💪🏽 it held me down
Drove it for about ten days, loved every single day of driving it. Didn't find the pen storage at the time, thanks for sharing that 😅😅 What I did find, was the built in tv. This car actually had VHF/UHF tv reception!
The main advantage of the LED brake lights was not their brightness or longevity. It was the reaction time, LEDs do not need to brighten-up when they are turned on, as opposed to a bulb that requires a couple of tenths of a second to reach its full brightness after turning on. This makes the brake light visible to other drivers that little bit earlier.
I think LED brake lights are better than incandescent or halogen brake light, they instantly light up and do not fade, giving indeed better reaction time. Also more visible even when the sun shining at the brake lights. Same deal with LED turn signals and LED reverse lights. People may complain about LED headlights, but people must admit LED use less electricity and fuel compared to incandescent or halogen. LED on cars are more common now than 20 years ago.
@@automation7295 the only downside I found with led lights especially taillights is that during the winter incandescent bulbs put out heat and melt the ice and snow 😂 LEDs are cold and you must clean the taillights yourself.
Doug doesn't go into enough detail that this is the exact type of obsessive safety engineering Mercedes-Benz was already legendary for, and what a lot of their longtime customers were still buying the cars for.
LEDs are cool until it snows.
@@shortycrawford8237 People clean off their brake lights regardless they're LED or not, also mostly doesn't snow much everywhere in the world.
Honestly, I've always loved the looks of the W220 generation of the S-Class and HATED the looks of it's successor, the W221. Quite frankly, I've NEVER heard anyone say they didn't like the looks of this generation of the S-Class.
100%. I love pre-recession Benz, after recession, they've gone down the toilet.
The W220 is gorgeous! I didn’t like the original W221, but the facelift was great! Never cared for the W222, the interior looks good, but the build quality is awful. The W223 is just trash.
@@dmitrymalikov4613 yeah the w222 is good but that's it really imo
The w221 is the best looking generation to me, although the w220 still looks much better than its predecessors.
Nope W221 is far better looking than the W220
I like the exterior design of this a lot actually. Might be the best looking s class imo
I liked the face lifted version of these with the mono block rims. However nothing beats the w140🤷🏽♂️. That car will ALWAYS be sexy!
This is the car that made me notice Mercedes in the first place. I was a child and didn’t like the boxy previous generation (I liked the coupe version though). Never heard anyone hate it. Must be an American thing.
Not an American thing, Doug is full of crap, everyone likes this one
Doug doesn't know cars as well as he likes to think, so he'll diss on cars he doesn't understand and blurb out nonsense. First time I am watching his video in almost a year, and already regretting it half way through.
@@sunshinefireboulder agreed
Facts
I had a Barolo Red '07 S550 but I always wanted a W220.
Never hated it at all (drove with two of them as a pessenger) and also never met anybody hating it. Its absolute automobile art. The ideas, the little tricks and engineering to the detail is outstanding specially for that time. The design back then was groundbreaking and distinctive elegant and modern compared to the boxy cars of that era. The whole video just points out actually how great it was and still kinda is. Still I love your reviews, Mr. DeMuro. Keep up the great work.
i dont hate it either i love it in fact
Likewise, I've never met someone that didn't like the 220 chassis. I think the 221 is the one that got more flack for the weird fender flare and styling.
I agree the styling was very good for its time and that Doug is looking thru the wrong lens at it. The 221 is arguably a more controversial design (although not as dramatic the 7 series from that era).
I bet Doug is the only one here hating it.
I have an 04" S430 w/ AMG package (sport bumper front/rear, 5 spoke amg chrome rims, and amg tuned Transmission) and aside from a dead battery and a few electrical gremlins it's been a very reliable car. It's the ultimate daily driver for work, perfect for traffic.
They were hated by a certain demographic. People who bought and owned them from 2005 until 2015. Where the car was still expensive and expensive to fix. After 2015 they dropped so low in price it really didn’t matter how much it cost to fix because it was a lot of car for the money. The style aged well with time and everyone who owns one or wants one today remembers it from their childhood as a flagship Mercedes.
When Doug says "everybody" he's really just talking about himself
I often wonder what color the sky is in his world....
Agreed. Anything Germany produces, he assumes everyone loves it no matter what.
@@yungboicontigo9278 this isn’t Instagram or TiK Tok dude..,
This is a trope among automotive journalists actually. Jack Baruth has made similar comments.
Doug: "This is the most cost cut low quality interior" Also Doug" *Shows full nappa leather interior covered in chrome, alcantera, and/or wood.
There was also a granite / marble version. Very durable inside of super strong leather. The interior is much better made than the W140 predecessor. The previous version was heavier, hence probably talking about cost cuts, not quality ... the interior of this car is the biggest advantage, it looks great at night
In 1998 nobody knew that plastic switches were not luxury yet, this notion was invented later.
Exactly.
My father had one of these about 10 years ago. It needed a new upper engine wiring harness. The dealer cost was $8500! To be clear, my father worked for the Mercedes dealership so that was the best price available. He ended up building his own harness for about $80. That worked but only a couple of months later the transmission failed. He junked it.
Also my father bought it from the previous owner for $2500 because they were completely fed up with the cost of maintenance.
@@1robhookWell that was the first mistake 😂😂 I got a 1 owner 2002 with 97k and besides the horrid quarter panel rust in some spots it’s pretty nice…. But yeah I’ve noticed all you gotta do is spend a couple more grand on a nicer W220 instead of buying the $2k ones and you can get a pretty mint car….. seen ones that are like $7-9k with like 30k miles on em for sale…. And that’s basically a new car at that point 😂
I think it looks pretty good. Has the driver's fender been painted? I'd drive it lol. Cheers and Great Vids!
This is my favorite looking S-Class ever. I love the single-panel roof and rear fenders. So clean.
This is very true. I had an 06 s500 & now 2010 s550 I still miss the body of the w220 it was just straight & clean I hate the big fender flares on my w221 for some reason lol
Yeah I honestly don't get this hate Doug is saying eVeRYoNe had for this design. I loved it back then and still do now.
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@@ultraguy8771 I saw that, thanks. And they have way more upvotes.
Not a fan of interior but by exterior design it is the best looking S-Class imo. It's stylish and clean design and does have good proportions.
Looks good otherwise but the headlights are kind of ugly.
Proportions are the best ever for me. More modern S-Class models are ugly to me. Take a look at the rear-fenders/roof panel, all one piece...how expensive would that be to replace? I don't know, but it's gorgeous.
@@jon4715 it's super expensive 😂 my c class from the same era has that same kind of body panel and I absolutely love it
Does anyone remember "Pre-Safe" in the W220? It's described in the manual. It's a collision protection feature that would send all the seats (and belts) to collision-imminent position.
The corner of the internet comments sections that don’t own Mercedes hates it, you mean The only thing I could point to as a car guy alive when it came out was the fact that all the other Benz’s had the bubble headlights which were new and extremely popular and good looking and they left it off of the flagship (s class)
Funny how, when reviewing this S class, everyone complains about poor quality, but in the same time praises quality of Maibach and contributes its failure to "being indistinguishable from an S class". Not very consistent.
when people say "indistinguishable" I think they're talking about the design, rather than the quality.
I've never heard anyone hate on these, and I couldn't see why, they are, in my opinion, the best looking of the S class and will always have a love for them ❤
Yea Doug is smoking crack if he actually believes this was a popularly hated car. I suppose it was a smart title for the video to get people to click on it and discuss their opinions as to why it wasn't hated.
It was and is great.
@@YouOnlyIiveTwice It looks okay but it feels bad. You can hear all the crackling sounds from the body when he accelerates at 25:53. The interior quality is just nowhere near the 90s S class, and the v12 was downgraded and less reliable (they made up for it with turbos later).
Rust is everywhere. He didn't mentioned about it.
Mercedes Benz had many quality problems late 1990`S and Early 2000`s And most car brands went very hard into cost cutting and earnign as much as possible in the early 2000`S and the Reliability and easy to fix no nonsense engineering of the 1980`S and 1990`S will never return. i Was in Gran canaria in 2019 december and there u still had 1990 Mercedes taxies with 500k Kilometers on the Odometer. and when i was in Cyprus in 2003 and 2008 u still had 1980 mercedes e class limo Taxies.
I've had one in my family since 2003. It's been reliable, it's been fast, handles great, and the ride quality is amazing. You don't know what you're talking about. And I'm a BMW fan. (Not so much the new ones)
It's actually true. This was a soft looking S class and the W140 is still well regarded today and much better known than the W220. Plus, the cloudy headlights succumbing to UV on the W220 further cheapened it.
I worked at a European mechanic shop here in Texas, and our W220 was a shop car. It was a black on tan, base model, s430, that we snagged for cheap. That car carried wheels and tires, engines, we used it to tow cars a couple times. We did the bare minimum to keep it running and it was clapped! Car was a ton of fun though, drifted it, did donuts, burnouts, etc. The W220 will always hold a special place in my heart, and I hope to snag an S55 of that generation. Great engine, great chassis, great styling.
Iconic car. Flagship Mercedes of my childhood, I think it looks very elegant.
I owned this in the S430. Loved it. I don't know why he thinks it was hated. My neighbor has one now. Everytime I drive by their house I say to myself, "I used to have one of those". I thought I was the sh!t back then.
Here in germany, the W220 is one of the most legendary cars from mercedes of its time. If you maintain them well, they will last.