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$70 vs $2,300 Welder? Let's Settle This! Weld Strength, Duty Cycle, Current Output, Build Quality

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2023 ж. 27 Мам.
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Let’s see if a $70 welder can outperform the more expensive rivals. It does indeed claim to deliver 200 amps of current, which is more than the $2,300 Lincoln welder. A big thanks to Joe for helping me test the welders for weld quality, penetration, current output and accuracy, ability to weld on rusty metal, and duty cycle.
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  • Thank you, Joe! It's great to have an expert supporting what's already the best tool-testing channel there is!

    @ethermelt4780@ethermelt478011 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • @@ProjectFarm looked on your channel but couldn’t find one. Maybe I didn’t look hard enough but a Video on silicone spray? Want to spray some on my suspension parts to stop squeaks. I see many brands but don’t know which is the best and last longest for the job. Thank you!!

      @rickjames2327@rickjames232711 ай бұрын

    • ​@@ProjectFarm I welled like a pro for years. I used a 220V gas Lincoln( and others) and its much better then the 120V HB Flux welder. The Lincoln welds smoother, hotter, thicker marerals, stronger welds

      @infiniti37G@infiniti37G11 ай бұрын

    • @@ProjectFarm hopefully Joe will never be substituted by Kuka robot run by GPT4

      @Kawka1122@Kawka112211 ай бұрын

    • @@Kawka1122 🤣

      @fram1111@fram111111 ай бұрын

  • I am a retired engineer, and I see a lot of people test things on KZhead in dumb ways. Your channel is not one of those. Thanks for all of the effort that you put in to make these comparisons scientifically meaningful.

    @marklewus5468@marklewus546811 ай бұрын

    • Thanks so much!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • So here’s a question as a retired engineer would a true RMS clamp meter have been a better way to test the amperage?

      @teddysurf@teddysurf9 ай бұрын

    • @@teddysurf True RMS is absolutely mandatory for testing welder current, especially that of inverter machines. The meter he used is true RMS, albeit a cheap one.

      @James1095@James10958 ай бұрын

    • @@James1095 is it a true RMS because most of the trms amp metes have “TRMS” printed on the meter and I don’t see it on this one? The reason I asked, is because I just bought a relatively cheap amazon Chinese welders and was in the market for a clamp meter and came across a video about true RMS vs average.

      @teddysurf@teddysurf8 ай бұрын

    • @@teddysurf I looked up the model number and the feature comparison chart on Amazon shows TRMS for that model. Is that accurate though? Who knows. Even if it is TRMS it's worth checking the specs because even most of those have limits on frequency and waveform so it still may not read correctly on an inverter welder.

      @James1095@James10958 ай бұрын

  • Your objective take and analysis makes you subjectively the absolute king and my go to source before buying anything. Don’t ever stop what you’re doing!

    @stevenpope@stevenpope10 ай бұрын

    • Thanks so much! Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

    • Cpuldn't have said it better!

      @hankpoth9681@hankpoth96818 ай бұрын

  • Other people have praised your scientific method but I’d like to add on the editing. As fast as possible to convey as much information as possible, while never being too fast. No time padding nonsense. Great stuff

    @82726jsjsufhejsjshshdjso@82726jsjsufhejsjshshdjso8 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm8 ай бұрын

    • This is what I love about the channel. All meat, no fluff

      @mikechapman4767@mikechapman47677 ай бұрын

    • Amen

      @jsp9247@jsp92476 ай бұрын

    • Right some U tubers have a short attention span .

      @txrick4879@txrick48796 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Todd! Thanks Joe for making this testing much more precise and yes, we are all interested in a mig welder comparison!

    @refactorear@refactorear11 ай бұрын

    • 100%. Appreciate bringing a pro who knows in use evaluations are as valuable as specs.

      @kenreynolds1000@kenreynolds100011 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • Ummm..... Why did Todd let Joe sponsor this video?

      @aaronfield7899@aaronfield789911 ай бұрын

    • I got myself a weldpro for around $300 the thing is a champ for mig I'd love to see how it matches up in a mig comparison!

      @JacquesDerderian@JacquesDerderian11 ай бұрын

    • @@tuker384 🤷‍♂

      @The_Establishment_Is_Satanic@The_Establishment_Is_Satanic11 ай бұрын

  • What I love about your videos is that there is no long intro and fancy junk. You get right into what we're here for. The facts and the results.

    @jimboreaddabible777@jimboreaddabible77711 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • I know right? His videos are concise and to the point. No 10 minutes of rambling every other test and lots of useful charts

      @ObservationofLimits@ObservationofLimits11 ай бұрын

  • I don't usually comment on any videos, but I have to say I've been watching you for ages and I can't even put into perspective the amount of appreciation I have for your tests that are done as scientifically and fairly as possible. It doesn't even stop at just fair comparisons, the actual qualitative information you measure and document and condense and present it's just honestly, the pinnacle of content creation in my opinion. So much work goes into all of your videos and I know there's slim chance you'll see this but I love watching every single one when I get a chance. I've learnt a hell of a lot, so huge thank you 🫶 keep up the amazing work.

    @jamieem37@jamieem379 ай бұрын

    • Thanks so much, will do!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm9 ай бұрын

    • Same your my number 1 channel I watch and recommend keep up the great work

      @christopherrobin462@christopherrobin4629 ай бұрын

    • couldn't say it better. thanks

      @JA-zf8bg@JA-zf8bg8 ай бұрын

    • Darn tootin'

      @triktrak_1451@triktrak_14517 ай бұрын

    • Wonder about a cheaper Lincoln like FC90

      @chrisjudge31@chrisjudge315 ай бұрын

  • It's great having a professional welder do the inspection. Makes for an even more thorough review. Thanks Joe we appreciate your input more than you can imagine.

    @novarian_nexus4117@novarian_nexus41179 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm9 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Joe! Always good to have a pro's skills and opinions to help with specialized testing! Thanks Todd for having him help!

    @blueballs8@blueballs811 ай бұрын

    • Thanks and you are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • ​@@ProjectFarm Yes, it's good to have a professionals opinion on weld quality. The specs on how well the welds held is useful also. Nicely done.

      @joeboxter3635@joeboxter363511 ай бұрын

    • Thank you Joe!

      @johnbouldin9033@johnbouldin903311 ай бұрын

  • Thank you Joe for assisting in the testing. All of us out here greatly appreciate Project Farm and all the hard work that goes into this channel. ~ Chuck

    @charlesdalton985@charlesdalton98511 ай бұрын

    • Thank you very much!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • @@ProjectFarm You do know that you have the best educational channel on KZhead right? Before I purchase anything for my shop, I always search for it on your channel to see if you've done a test comparison on that particular tool. You have literally helped out 10s of thousand of us men or more make the right decisions on what not to buy for our next project. Every guy I know watches your channel. Keep up the hard work Project Farm and thank you for all you do. P.S. THANKS JOE!!

      @TheGifted333@TheGifted33311 ай бұрын

    • Thanks Joe

      @markloney427@markloney42711 ай бұрын

  • I'm a hobbyist welder at the moment and this explains the issues I'm having with my cheap SMAW welder. I'm actually surprised how much of a difference there is. Thank you! Also, thank you to Joe for the expert POV!

    @hughbrown1531@hughbrown153110 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • Thanks to Joe for helping out. It's nice to see professionals working together to obtain accurate assessments of various products.

    @thecat6062@thecat60626 ай бұрын

  • As a 20 years full-time professional welder who has always worked with big expensive machines like 5-10K$ Fronius/Lincoln/Miller, I didn't know that great "cheap" welders like the Harbor Freight Titanium were a thing. Another awesome video, and thanks to Joe! Subjective input from a professional on how the welders behave is invaluable.

    @sheikreal@sheikreal11 ай бұрын

    • I got a titanium mig welder for just over 500 bucks, this thing is the ticket for someone who does projects or small welding jobs

      @andrewarmstrong9194@andrewarmstrong919411 ай бұрын

    • yes i have the same Titanium as in the video. not bad for a cheap stick welder. 480v machines will always be far superior.

      @_AndromedaGalaxy_@_AndromedaGalaxy_11 ай бұрын

    • Same here. I'm surprised such cheap machines can deliver that much.

      @omisan771@omisan77111 ай бұрын

    • ​@@andrewarmstrong9194 I want to make my own smoker, would the titanium be good to use for that?

      @DZADangerous@DZADangerous11 ай бұрын

    • 100000😅

      @Redneckemtb@Redneckemtb11 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Joe and Todd for bringing in experience when it was needed. Duty cycle kills cheap tools.

    @jskjsk3986@jskjsk398611 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Thank you Joe! I'm glad to see a professional help us understand the welds. Thank you Project Farm for showing everything without bias and linking the welders!

    @sebastianmeans5954@sebastianmeans595410 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • Love the expert support structure and I love the channel. I've used this in research for at least 10 things including the motor oil series and fuel inject/carbon cleanup chemicals.

    @jeffjohnson3695@jeffjohnson369510 ай бұрын

  • Joe did great. Only a skilled welder can accurately do test pieces for a welder review. Many thanks to Joe for yet another great batch of product reviews.

    @JaredJanhsen@JaredJanhsen11 ай бұрын

    • LIES WASNT AN APPLES TO APPLE'S COMPARISON

      @drumtwo4seven@drumtwo4seven11 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • I think the channel can benefit greatly from some subject matter experts like Joe. Having the raw test data is a really good thing, however, having the thoughts and input from the experts can provide Insight that may not be measurable. Well done guys!

    @OneWhoWas@OneWhoWas11 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • Yeah I second this as welders in particular are a bit of a difficult area to do unless a proper welder checks them out on the practical end. It was nice to see the testing show what is better for small projects and short welds.

      @doom0d1@doom0d111 ай бұрын

  • Thank you Joe! Project Farm is exceptional at giving solid real world results with the highest level of integrity. Thanks for bringing Joe on board.

    @RLamb-gu2yh@RLamb-gu2yh9 ай бұрын

  • Thanks for helping out Joe, great job :) And thanks for yet another informative video PF 👌👍

    @sorendk1@sorendk110 ай бұрын

  • Joe's assessment was the vote of confidence these products needed. Exceptionally well done work on this video.

    @DullPoints@DullPoints11 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • As a life long Miller welder user, the Titanium line is fantastic for the price. Their duty cycles are usually better than the more expensive Vulcan welders too. Been running the Titanium multi process off 240V for close to 4 years now with almost daily welding and it just runs and runs never hitting the duty cycle or losing arc integrity at all. HIGHLY recommend!

    @MrGiXxEr@MrGiXxEr11 ай бұрын

    • I'll have to check out that welder.. I wonder who they copied it from for it to be that good.

      @campbellpaul@campbellpaul11 ай бұрын

    • @@campbellpaul Not sure. I know the comparable Miller is over $3k and only comes with the MIG leads, they make you buy the stick and TIG leads separate!

      @MrGiXxEr@MrGiXxEr11 ай бұрын

    • WOW!!: Experienced Pro's words are priceless!!.💪🥇

      @hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476@hernandovillamarinbuenaven747611 ай бұрын

    • I have the titanium 120 mig welder. Absolutely love it.

      @Gary-tc7zx@Gary-tc7zx11 ай бұрын

    • @@Gary-tc7zx I hear the Titanium MIG 140 is good for 1/4" steel and doesn't trip 20a breakers.

      @campbellpaul@campbellpaul11 ай бұрын

  • I am definitely interested in seeing mig welders tested against one another. Miller, Lincoln, Everlast, and titanium as well as whatever other brands you see fit. Thank you for a great video!

    @robromej@robromej10 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • I appreciate your honesty about your lack of welding prowess & getting in Joe for cool, expert analyses of welding results. Many thanks to Joe!

    @gerhardlesch3615@gerhardlesch36158 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm8 ай бұрын

  • Joe’s thorough, concise, and down to earth way of analyzing the welds is right on target. I’m about 5 years into Aerospace fabrication and design and I can tell you I wish I worked with Joe.

    @urbancornbread5500@urbancornbread550011 ай бұрын

    • I am afraid of flying...

      @Elaba_@Elaba_11 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • I love the segment with Joe. It's great to get a second opinion from such a skilled guy.

    @tehpanda64@tehpanda6411 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Thank you, Joe!!! You've hitched your wagon to the best YT DIY channel on the planet and it is much appreciated by the viewers. Trustworthy and unbiased contributions from professionals and master craftsman such as yourself see to it that everyday DIY folks can tackle projects safely without breaking the bank or wasting money in inferior and inefficient tools. MUCH appreciated.

    @simonbainbridge3507@simonbainbridge35079 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm9 ай бұрын

  • Thank you for giving us honest reviews and advice! You have definitely influenced my decisions. Also big thanks to Joe for coming out to give a hand. :D

    @bluebook6312@bluebook63129 ай бұрын

    • Thanks and you are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm9 ай бұрын

  • The Titanium surprised me all around when I picked it up last year. I’ve been nothing but impressed with their line of welders lately.

    @timtimtimmay4654@timtimtimmay465411 ай бұрын

    • Thanks for the feedback.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • I bought the multi-process Titanium a few months ago and have been satisfied. It's very easy to get set up and arc welds great even on 120.

      @ericmackison9517@ericmackison951711 ай бұрын

    • I keep hearing that. I have an old ESAB I use for stick welding, and it's getting long in the tooth. Gonna check Titanium out!

      @Lesardah@Lesardah11 ай бұрын

  • Definitely want to see the wire feed welders. It's a skill I am considering trying to learn. And a big thanks to Joe

    @lmfinato@lmfinato11 ай бұрын

    • Wire feed welding is not at all difficult to learn. In the past couple of years I had to learn wire feed aluminum welding for my job in auto body. At 65 it's a bit of an old dog new trick thing. If you can stick or gas weld you will find wire feed a piece of cake.

      @larrynason8716@larrynason871611 ай бұрын

    • Wire welding is a lot easier to pick up than stick welding is. The welder feeds the wire for you. You still have to do a bit of testing before you weld what you want to to get your settings good.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred11 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Joe! Awesome work. It is always great to get a professional opinion on things when needed. Hope to see you on here again

    @patrickpowers806@patrickpowers8067 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm7 ай бұрын

  • Joe was super cool, thanks for helping out! It means a lot to see trusted source contribute to the channel.

    @berrieds@berrieds10 ай бұрын

  • 40 plus years as a professional Welder. You get what you pay for . Joe's high skill and experience was obvious. Great Report. Thank You. Valuable and Useful Information.

    @chethaynes5802@chethaynes580211 ай бұрын

    • Correction: You rarely get more than what you pay for, but you often get less

      @erik_dk842@erik_dk84211 ай бұрын

    • It's also smart to buy what you need.

      @fs3994@fs399411 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Big thanks to Joe for helping out! I hope to see him again on future welder reviews! Great work as always, Todd! Have a great day! o7

    @cmdrclassified@cmdrclassified11 ай бұрын

    • Thanks and you are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Hey guys, Thanks to both of you! Joe it is clear you have expertise, which is both helpful, and, just nice to witness someone good at what they do!

    @paulstewart9224@paulstewart922410 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • Wow, fantastic channel ! These are the tests that we want ! These videos are full of technical specs. The tests done, test more things than I would have imagined. The videos get to the point and don't waste time with filler content. I love your work, keep up the fantastic work !

    @EddieNanakase@EddieNanakase9 ай бұрын

    • Thank you very much!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm9 ай бұрын

    • Yes, no filler content is the best part. And so is the content. And so is the speed at which you are capable of coherently!

      @dannywoods3928@dannywoods39287 ай бұрын

  • Joe, I just wanted to let you know how much i appreciated your help with this production. I myself dabble in the arts of metalwork and know well enough how difficult it can be to put yourself away to assist with an endeavor like this. your aid and assistance has proven to me and all of man kind that there is still a chance that humanity as we know it has not yet been lost. I love you joe.

    @mbrang00@mbrang0011 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • WTF are you??

      @daveblane6442@daveblane644211 ай бұрын

    • Joe's Mom ? 😅

      @jonny555ive@jonny555ive10 ай бұрын

  • Thank you Joe, having you testing the welders definitely adds confidence to the testing. It's much appreciated.

    @joeno215@joeno21511 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Joe. You are the savior this channel needs. We need full welder testing please my good sir!

    @alligatorguy101@alligatorguy10110 ай бұрын

  • what a fantastic video, I appreciate the professionalism of the welder evaluating the welds!! great video

    @nategoalbevazin1387@nategoalbevazin13872 ай бұрын

  • King of KZhead right here in my book. True dedication to the scientific method. No bs, no favor, just testing and brief synopsis. True craft.

    @vinnys7514@vinnys751411 ай бұрын

    • 100% agree with this! "Consumer Reports" could take more than a few lessons from this channel.

      @andrewstombaugh9318@andrewstombaugh931811 ай бұрын

    • @@andrewstombaugh9318 Preach !!

      @salutations5749@salutations574911 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Wow, Joe's welds using these cheap stick welders look a LOT better than a lot of people's TIG welds. Very Impressive!

    @K0Kaz@K0Kaz11 ай бұрын

    • LIES

      @drumtwo4seven@drumtwo4seven11 ай бұрын

    • ​@@drumtwo4seven lies

      @xxtimo_titanxx7189@xxtimo_titanxx718911 ай бұрын

    • @@drumtwo4seven Found the "pro" TIG welder.

      @enderblazex2718@enderblazex271811 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • Lol. You are crazy as hell. I’m not bashing on the man but none of those beads were anything to write home to mom and brag about.

      @rickylee2477@rickylee247711 ай бұрын

  • Thank you both. I have been wanting to see the results of different welding machines. I can’t afford the Lincoln so the you both have been a great help. Again, thank you Joe for your professional help.

    @fingeraid7995@fingeraid799510 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • Great review and thanks to Joe for adding his SME. Think it is great you are collaborating with others to improve your videos and encourage you to continue this.

    @johnpalmer5131@johnpalmer513110 ай бұрын

    • Thanks and you are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Joe!! As a welding engineer, this was an excellent video comparing cheap welders to each other. Another test I would recommend doing for the MIG video would be welding for at least 4hrs with the welder at the highest settings. Some of those cheap welders give up after 2hrs of use with high current because their electronics are not meant to sustain high current for more than a few minutes at a time. Please do not waste the money on tool truck welders. They are rebranded Lincoln or Miller welders, with less features and less knowledgeable people to help troubleshoot them.

    @joemad4110@joemad411011 ай бұрын

    • Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • With that said, if you are a simple hobby user, like you would only use it for a few mins at a time here and there, then its DEF worth it to save the money. You could buy several before you spend the amount on a higher end one.

      @OnceShy_TwiceBitten@OnceShy_TwiceBitten11 ай бұрын

    • @@OnceShy_TwiceBitten Been beating the heck out of my titanium 200 for a year now no issues

      @tjoenh4054@tjoenh405411 ай бұрын

    • Duty cycle would be a GREAT test! Good idea!

      @Lesardah@Lesardah11 ай бұрын

  • Thank you, Joe for your help! And thank you, Todd for another great video!

    @billmyette580@billmyette5809 ай бұрын

  • Thank you both 🙏

    @jesseespinoza3282@jesseespinoza328210 ай бұрын

  • I bought the Titanium over a year ago for fixing stuff around the house, tacking up metal fence and light repairs. So far it works great.

    @JasonBoydston@JasonBoydston11 ай бұрын

    • I got one of the titanium wire feeds cheep. Harbor freight is great for all the home gamers.

      @onetwothree2617@onetwothree261711 ай бұрын

    • Thanks for sharing.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Props for bringing in Joe. Good welding technique takes quite some time to acquire (I can vouch)

    @KreemieNewgatt@KreemieNewgatt11 ай бұрын

    • Yes, and re-do the A/C filters with an expert too.

      @communitycollegegenius9684@communitycollegegenius968411 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Great welds and great feedback, Joe! Couldn't have had such a quality video without you

    @oxylepy2@oxylepy29 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm9 ай бұрын

  • Thanks for helping out Joe and NICE WELDS!

    @joemehere1151@joemehere11518 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm8 ай бұрын

  • Todd and Joe gave a professional test for us to learn from, great job guys!

    @markthomas4083@markthomas408311 ай бұрын

    • Thanks and you are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • I definitely want to see a stand-off between the multi-process machines!

    @jsstuff1431@jsstuff143111 ай бұрын

    • Thanks for the suggestion.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Thanks for the comparison! I have always used Lincoln welders and have a 20 years old SP135 which still works amazingly for me. I laughed at the "plasma event" on the cheap non-protected Ssimder welder when it failed during the endurance test. Thanks to Joe for his welding assistance for this test!

    @davida1hiwaaynet@davida1hiwaaynet10 ай бұрын

    • Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • Good thorough test. It's worth mentioning that the clamp meter has to be capable of measuring DC current with the clamp as many only measure AC current. Thankfully the DC clamp meters are much more common now.

    @bigclivedotcom@bigclivedotcom11 ай бұрын

    • Yeah, the cheapest clamp meters you can find only do AC... I learned that by impulse buying my first cheap little clamp meter.

      @volvo09@volvo0911 ай бұрын

    • Not too mention that positive and negative have different functions between AC and DC.

      @jcclark2060@jcclark206011 ай бұрын

    • Good to see ya, Clive! He's right! My RadioShack meter would do DC, but I found it hard to find others to do it at the time. Definitely something to keep in mind.

      @zendell37@zendell3711 ай бұрын

    • clive please make a house fire video from the components of the 70¥ welder

      @Juppie902@Juppie90211 ай бұрын

    • I'd like to see you dissect the blown welder.....or any of them for that matter.

      @smarts53@smarts5311 ай бұрын

  • Great video thanks Joe! Its cool to see harbor freight performing well in these tests almost like they're actually paying attention to what their custimers want.

    @MotorCityMetalArt@MotorCityMetalArt11 ай бұрын

    • And the Titanium isn’t even top end.

      @chrisg1043@chrisg104311 ай бұрын

    • The HF welders have been pretty good for a while. You’re right that they have been paying attn to what the customers want because they have been getting better and better.

      @chadhowell1328@chadhowell132811 ай бұрын

    • @@chadhowell1328 yep. I picked up the titanium 125 for repairs around the property and im really impressed with how it welds. Especially compared to the old AC Chicago electric 90 amp flux core welder.

      @MotorCityMetalArt@MotorCityMetalArt11 ай бұрын

    • Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • I have a Titanium 225 very happy with it. Thanks to your expert help. Liked his pointing out the hot and cold penetation.

    @davidnelson677@davidnelson67710 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • Thank you Joe. PF is a fantastic resource for us all, so thanks for helping! See you in the next one?

    @YaGottaBeKidding@YaGottaBeKidding6 ай бұрын

  • Joe helped this test really shine. It's so odd seeing the results actually reflect almost perfectly "You get what yoy pay for" because usually the only real standouts are the cheapest for being mediocre and the most expensive for being overkill for most people.

    @dooshlerd@dooshlerd11 ай бұрын

    • I was surprised some of them lunch box welders did as good as they did. For what I do they'd be fine.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred11 ай бұрын

    • @@1pcfred I have the Titanium flux core 125 and it's surprisingly good. If you have a small project that doesn't need 220amps they're perfect.

      @Zanthorr@Zanthorr11 ай бұрын

    • @@Zanthorr I only tackle small projects. I'm not building bridges over here. I never need more than about 90 amps or so to do the welding I do. The last weld job I did I saved my garden cart rims. They were all rust rotted out. It came out OK. Was pretty thin metal I was working with. Replacing them would have been very expensive. I even patched up the steel tubes on it some. It'll be good for a while to come. I think I was running about 30 amps or so. I used really skinny electrodes too.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred11 ай бұрын

  • Nice to see the mid range Harbor Freight welder doing well. They have stepped up their quality

    @MattLitkeRacing@MattLitkeRacing11 ай бұрын

    • Thanks for the feedback.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • thanks Joe, for your time and honesty

    @user-qd3uf4on6o@user-qd3uf4on6o10 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • Thank you Joe. The extra insight was most helpful in understanding the weilders.

    @HunterBgood@HunterBgood10 ай бұрын

    • Thanks! Glad to hear!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • As someone who has been welding for 8 years I think this was some quality information being put out. I’d love to see a battery powered 4 1/2 inch grinder test. I’m pretty sure you did a corded test some years ago but with the technology in batteries I think they are gaining popularity as an option

    @masonsmith7018@masonsmith701811 ай бұрын

    • Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • I keep looking at the Ryobi brushless angle grinder and die grinder but haven’t pulled the trigger yet!🤔

      @Blakehx@Blakehx11 ай бұрын

    • @@Blakehx I’ve been thinking about the Milwaukee cordless die grinder set because I have tons of those little batteries already. That price tag hurts to look at 😂

      @masonsmith7018@masonsmith701811 ай бұрын

    • I just got a Ryobi and love it

      @Qthefun@Qthefun11 ай бұрын

    • Agreed! Torque test channel has a couple but a big roundup would be great

      @joel89039@joel8903911 ай бұрын

  • I’m definitely interested in seeing a multiprocess welder comparison.

    @ClinttheGreat@ClinttheGreat11 ай бұрын

    • Thanks for the suggestion.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Joe, thank you for speaking at a rate that I can follow!

    @mattclary2069@mattclary20696 ай бұрын

  • Thank you Joe! Your evaluation was very helpful.

    @jesscollins1@jesscollins110 ай бұрын

    • Thanks! Glad to hear!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Joe! This is an amazing channel by itself, and with your expert assistance you've allowed it to extend into a tool I've wanted to see for a long time. It's clear that your skilled hands gave each of these machines its best chance, and it's enlightening to see how they stacked up. I hope you'll make another appearance :)

    @jxtq27@jxtq2711 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • My first welder was buzz box. I learned everything I could. I then moved to 70 dollar klutch. Bought the tig leads for it. Practiced every single day after work running beads up down sideways every direction. I would buy coupons to practice on from this metal supply company. After about 6 months I moved to a 2k dollar Everlast that does everything ac/dc foot pedal multiple settings saves(pulse/fade in/out etc) And id spent the next 6 months only running aluminum). I love welding and I'm 100 percent self taught 😎 you can do anything you put your mind too.

    @ExcavationNation@ExcavationNation11 ай бұрын

    • Are you now a welder as far as profession? I’d like to learn too but wondering if I should take a course, thanks!

      @daltondenun858@daltondenun85811 ай бұрын

    • Self taught, eh? No youtube videos, instruction manuals, etc...? I mean, kudos on learning, welding is one of the most useful skills to have. I took it in highschool all four years

      @caodesignworks2407@caodesignworks240711 ай бұрын

    • Why did you spend $2k on an Everlast? That's a lot of money for an off-brand welder.

      @TehButterflyEffect@TehButterflyEffect11 ай бұрын

    • @@TehButterflyEffect I've never had a single issue with it I purchased it almost 5 years ago and it's fantastic.

      @ExcavationNation@ExcavationNation11 ай бұрын

    • @@daltondenun858 noooo my friend I dig swimming pools. But I can fix anything if it breaks. If you want to become a welder for a job.. I'd definitely take courses. There's A LOT that self taught misses.

      @ExcavationNation@ExcavationNation11 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Joe. As a self teaching amateur welder, its always a pleasure to watch a pro.

    @jmshssk2@jmshssk28 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm8 ай бұрын

  • Thank you much! I am a woodworker, with a need of just spot welds! This video was very helpful 🤙🏽

    @onsightwoodworks@onsightwoodworks3 ай бұрын

  • This is hands down the best channel on KZhead. Thank you Todd and Joe for another excellent product test!

    @drakecardin8567@drakecardin856711 ай бұрын

    • Thank you!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Thank you both! Honesty is truly best advice ever!

    @shotokankaratedo6155@shotokankaratedo61555 ай бұрын

    • You're welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm5 ай бұрын

  • Joe was very concise and to the point, exactly what a reviewer should be on welding. Good job.

    @3dsmackdown@3dsmackdown8 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm8 ай бұрын

  • This is the best channel ever. There is so few, true honest reviews on real equipment available. Thanks Joe.

    @collinsmith9941@collinsmith994111 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • As a community college welding instructor working i get asked all the time about what inexpensive welder i would recommend. I've generally suggested the Harbor Freight Titanium and Vulcan but it's nice to know that there are some even more inexpensive welders that are reasonable options. considering I own the lincoln 210mp it was nice to get a little bit of verification that my money wasn't completely misspent. :)

    @RoamGaming@RoamGaming11 ай бұрын

    • I also teach welding at a community College. I have a student who brought in a prime weld, it has CK accessories and I was rather impressed with how it welded for the price. If I had the money though, I would definitely buy the ESAB 205i, very impressed with that.

      @andrewfowler1940@andrewfowler194011 ай бұрын

    • I just got a question, if I buy a welder and run it at 110 volt like from a normal garage outlet, a Welder will not melt the cables in the walls/trip the circuit breaker?

      @Momoka7@Momoka711 ай бұрын

    • Thanks for sharing!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • ​@@Momoka7Not if the breaker is properly sized for gauge of wire. It will trip before it melts. 14 gauge wire needs a 15 amp breaker, 12 gauge wire a 20 amp breaker. You want bare minimum 20 amp circuit for a 110 welder. I got a titanium flux core welder that runs on 110 outlet and it works great

      @frenchonion4595@frenchonion459511 ай бұрын

    • The breaker is there to prevent the wires from melting/killing someone. If the breaker matches or exceds the amps that said welder will pull then it wont trip it. Assuming it was wired properly the wires should be fine for the amp draw.

      @nicholasmigliaccio9107@nicholasmigliaccio910711 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Joe! Great video, as always!

    @davidroads419@davidroads4196 ай бұрын

  • Thank you PF and a special Thank You to Joe! I hope Joe returns and helps with the other welder reviews. O yeah, more welder reviews please!😄👍

    @timwagster9458@timwagster94589 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm9 ай бұрын

  • Man, I'd love to spend a weekend in the shop with Joe. Great video presence and seemingly a great content expert. I loved this video!

    @baileydbenson1@baileydbenson111 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • A thank you to Joe for his great effort to help PF. I look forward to a new test on MiG and TIG welders. Thank you PF for your great channel. The tests and methods are a real benefit for a home gamer like myself.

    @alseidel5622@alseidel562211 ай бұрын

    • We are looking forward to seeing a multiprocess welder comparison also. Love to get Joe's input on that test as well. Thanks Brian.

      @brianhendricks5326@brianhendricks532611 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • this video is fantastic!! the two of you really did a great job on this. just wanted to say thank you. this is a huge help to me on making a decision on my next welder.

    @jonrowe1776@jonrowe17769 ай бұрын

    • Thanks and you are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm9 ай бұрын

  • Thanks to Joe for his help. Looking forward to your testing and comparison of combination welders.

    @glennmuir5617@glennmuir561710 ай бұрын

    • Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • Really good idea to have an outside pro so that there isn’t that much user error in the testing! You could maybe test different welding sticks.

    @tuukka518@tuukka51811 ай бұрын

    • Thanks for the suggestion.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • Test different brands of electrodes. I don’t know if the quality is standardized.

      @SethMethCS@SethMethCS11 ай бұрын

    • @@SethMethCS It's not. The cheap electrodes have slightly different flux coatings and aren't nearly as consistent. Washington Alloy, for example, is much more difficult to run than the same Hobart electrode.

      @TehButterflyEffect@TehButterflyEffect11 ай бұрын

    • You’d have your work cut out for you. Lincoln makes about 13 different variations of 7018 alone lol

      @connormcguire484@connormcguire4847 ай бұрын

  • I would love to see multi process welders tested, especially more budget options.

    @ObliviousCrow@ObliviousCrow11 ай бұрын

    • Thanks for the suggestion.

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • I 2nd this…!

      @drpoomanchu@drpoomanchu8 ай бұрын

    • Same here! I am also curious to see how MIG machines would compare welding aluminum...

      @davebenedict7986@davebenedict79868 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Joe! This was VERY informative! Much appreciated!

    @johngoodspeed3585@johngoodspeed358510 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • Project Farm videos are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you’re gonna get. 🇺🇸

    @WoodLineWorker@WoodLineWorker11 ай бұрын

    • Thank you very much!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • Every box of chocolates I've ever bought shows exactly what's inside on the side of it

      @thecloneguyz@thecloneguyz11 ай бұрын

    • @@thecloneguyz I’m so thrilled to hear that.

      @WoodLineWorker@WoodLineWorker11 ай бұрын

    • @@WoodLineWorker just like how rabbit holes are not very deep and crocodile holes are actually the deepest holes in the world

      @thecloneguyz@thecloneguyz11 ай бұрын

    • @@thecloneguyz ain’t that something?

      @WoodLineWorker@WoodLineWorker11 ай бұрын

  • Thanks to Joe for providing his input on these welding tests! And even though I am not a welder at all, I'd love to see some comparisons of different types of welders, too! This channel is a fantastic resource. Whenever I need to purchase anything - hand tools, power tools, adhesives, pretty much anything - one of my first steps is checking whether Project Farm has a relevant video. TL;DR: thanks, and maybe someday I'll find a topic you haven't covered that I can suggest you test haha

    @SeanCMonahan@SeanCMonahan11 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • I'm glad I am not the only one who does this lol

      @ognap@ognap11 ай бұрын

    • @@ognap Oh, you're not, by far. ProjectFarm is the most concise, most well tested channel online, period. Todd does a fantastic job of it, and it shows. Thousands of folks swear by his findings and buy accordingly.

      @ljprep6250@ljprep625010 ай бұрын

  • Joe, thank you for sharing your knowledge. Your input is very appreciated.

    @OscarRodSeedsofG@OscarRodSeedsofG11 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Joe for your professional advice.

    @davethewhitedevil@davethewhitedevil6 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm6 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Joe for your professional help with this test. Todd, thank you for just solidifying yet again the validity of your channel. Your skills as a fabricator and designer are “very impressive” with all of your test jigs you fashion. But even with that, it is also very impressive to see you know when your limitations might hinder results. So instead of being to prideful and doing it yourself you call in an expert. Thanks for keeping this channel true and factual!

    @calebcrossley8254@calebcrossley825411 ай бұрын

    • Thanks and you are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Nice work! I'd love to see a similar comparison for TIG welders in the future!

    @TeddyYoung26@TeddyYoung2611 ай бұрын

    • Great suggestion! Thank you

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

    • @@ProjectFarm I second the TIG welding comparison, but also MIG welding. All the processes have differences and separate use cases and I'd love to see how different machines stack up. If you do another welder comparison, can you also include a higher end (like the Lincoln in this video) used welder? It's not uncommon to see used welders in the field and some people swear that older used welders (from reputable brands) can be just as good if not better than their newer, younger counterparts.

      @tyray137@tyray13711 ай бұрын

    • ​@@tyray137Have heard that said too, so maybe it's like wrenches, sockets, and other tools that "ain't as good as they used to be?" 🤔✌️😎

      @gus473@gus47311 ай бұрын

    • i agree o that

      @pokettomonsta@pokettomonsta11 ай бұрын

  • Joe, thank you. Project farm also thank you. Joe you expertise is much appreciated and requested for any future weld test.

    @siyortus@siyortus10 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • The opinion of a professional welder is very valuable. Thanks Joe!

    @macklyn@macklyn7 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm7 ай бұрын

  • Great to hear from an experienced welder on these kinds of tests, really increases confidence in the results. Thanks, Joe :)

    @sciguy2000@sciguy200011 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Thank you Joe for participating in this testing and thank you Project Farm for all the testing you do.

    @TheKidFromYTown@TheKidFromYTown11 ай бұрын

    • Thanks and you are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Joe! What an awesome job guys. I enjoyed it.

    @benchacon4983@benchacon498310 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • Thanks to the both of you for testing and posting.

    @sweetlandsheatingcooling9039@sweetlandsheatingcooling903910 ай бұрын

    • You are welcome!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын

  • That was a great idea to bring in a professional welder to help with the tests! Joe seems like a great guy!!

    @georgeorwell126@georgeorwell12611 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm11 ай бұрын

  • Welding is one of those skills I have been wanting to just learn for years so this is probably one of the single most important videos you have put out for me personally recently. Here's hoping that Joe can help you help us amateurs in picking out good tools to start off with.

    @Hybris51129@Hybris5112911 ай бұрын

    • I took welding in vocational high school for two years. One of the best things I ever did. Made traction bars for my 4x4 and a pipe bumper in high school. Fabricated and installed a trailer hitch for my math teacher and it got me an A in his class. Never had a specific welding job but did it in all my jobs at some point when they found out I could weld. I’ve fabricated stuff for employers and personal projects just from an idea in my head. Bull countless items. It’s a great skill to know so I highly recommend you go for it. Never a bad thing to invest in yourself.

      @onionhead5780@onionhead578011 ай бұрын

    • With stick welding a lot of it is down to technique. The angle of the rod, the arc gap and how fast you travel. If you can get all of that right you can get good beads. Joe managed it even with these cheap welders. But that's because Joe knows how to weld. If he could have adjusted the current he'd have done even better.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred11 ай бұрын

    • Ye me2

      @fabian3265@fabian326511 ай бұрын

    • buy a hobart, Dont learn on a garbage machine. You will learn the most with an accurate machine. trying to learn on a cheap welder will only fck things up more

      @loveforthegame3@loveforthegame311 ай бұрын

    • @@loveforthegame3 not everyone learns the same way. I am not sure how accuracy is going to help anyone considering the varied nature of the welding process. It's not all bench welding out in the real world.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred11 ай бұрын

  • Thank You Mr. Joe for helping out our Favorite and Honest Tester. Hope to see more of you.

    @ge0arc244@ge0arc2448 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm8 ай бұрын

  • joe your help with these test was much appreciated= thanks again

    @dannystubblefield5478@dannystubblefield547810 ай бұрын

    • Thanks!

      @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm10 ай бұрын
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