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And now its like GoT never existed. A massive cultural influence vanished into thin air. What a bad ending can do to a show is truly astonishing
@Gravuun2 жыл бұрын
Influence?
@DanielMartinez-xz8nj2 жыл бұрын
Not for those of us who enjoyed it. I loved every minute of it.
@Thomas-kj1fk2 жыл бұрын
@@Thomas-kj1fk Well, but most of the viewers hated it
@alirezakhoshird78502 жыл бұрын
this. No one talks about it. No one cares. Its truly amazing how you can kill one of the most influential shows in the history of tv with 6 episodes.
@minarik012 жыл бұрын
This show used to be referenced CONSTANTLY, it was almost as quotable as Star Wars and Lord of the Rings. Now nobody references it anymore. You’d think if the show ended on good or at least decent terms, people would still reference and joke about it. Literally the only time you hear people talking about Game of Thrones now is when they’re talking about how badly the ending of that show was fucked up
@nqrtzy87652 жыл бұрын
Arya went west, Jon went north, Drogon went east and the show went south
@zwergz11225 жыл бұрын
HAHA I actually spat my tea out 😂
@MrEnKaye5 жыл бұрын
Somebody already posted this before you somewhere.
@ajanaya80555 жыл бұрын
@@ajanaya8055 yeah on r/freefolk
@isaacwalters82105 жыл бұрын
Jon shoulda just gone down on Dany and all woulda gone well
@MrCCFCforLife5 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen this before but I’m almost positive you’re not clever enough for it . Probably stole it from Reddit
@anthonydominguez47445 жыл бұрын
Love how dragons can understand symbolism but can’t see hundreds of pirate ships with massive dragon killing crossbows mounted in the front
@theofrastusbombastus9226 Жыл бұрын
We got a good meme out of it though. Stupid pointy chair!!!!
@rangoooo23129 ай бұрын
Dragons have better media literacy than vision
@anakin-is-panakin9 ай бұрын
Exactly like wtf were they just hiding behind the island and all of a sudden SUPRISE!
@tysonleblanc88625 ай бұрын
Ballistae
@IshtarNike5 ай бұрын
That moment when the dragon sees it's dead mother and the man that killed her but poignantly understands that the throne was the catalyst behind the thirst for power which drove the destiny of it's characters in the most profound manner ROAR
@onlydaprecum4 ай бұрын
My biggest issue is the fact that Arya can literally impersonate anyone, so when she and Sansa successfully plot to kill Littlefinger (the only person who played all sides), they didn’t take his face. She could have easily impersonated Littlefinger, sneak into the Red Keep, kill Cersei for Dany in exchange for the north’s liberation and everything would have been fine.
@elizabethp.544810 ай бұрын
Arya only face change other body cant
@he.2367 ай бұрын
Sounds just like riding the eagles in LoTR
@aarnetahtimeri48906 ай бұрын
@@he.236 rly? it doesnt stop her to "be" Walder Frey
@h1n1worm5 ай бұрын
imagine if that happened and Arya encountered Jaime (who already escaped to be with Cersei) and they dueled, would be much better than the euron Vs Jaime crap
@oussama18114 ай бұрын
🤣😂 you and all those 873 likes are retards!! you guys miss all the details. how the hell would Littlefinger sneak into the red keeps when he is public enemy. you retards forgot he declared partners with house stark back in season ^ episode 10. yall all retards
@princedeluca274 ай бұрын
If you think about it, this show ended in the most Game of Thrones way possible. But instead of killing off a bunch of well loved characters it killed off the whole fanbase.
@colinmitchell12763 жыл бұрын
@curio honestly, I have rewatched it a few times and I just skipped the last 2 seasons no problem. The shittiness of Seasons 7 and 8 don't diminish the incredible things from the first 6 seasons for me
@colinmitchell12763 жыл бұрын
Lol!! Sooo well said!!! I don’t even freaking care about their prequel now. I refuse to watch it.
@techeepeach92723 жыл бұрын
@@techeepeach9272 why as the guy above just said the first 6 seasons where still incredible im sure they can do it again in the prequal
@terrymason.yt12323 жыл бұрын
I still think Disney coming to Benioff and Weiss and pitching them the Star Wars trilogy was what started it. Disney execs wanted Game of Thrones to be toast, and what better way then to manipulate the creators into fucking it over.
Bran did nothing for a whole season? Bran did nothing for the entire show.
@captainwonderbar16574 жыл бұрын
The only thing he did was seeing jamie fucking his sister to start the conflict between stark and lanistar. But it was jaime who throwed bran out of the window. So dissapointing
@lordofcastamere93764 жыл бұрын
@@lordofcastamere9376 so, he could have died after the first episode and nothing important would have changed...
@zaladaneifyable4 жыл бұрын
Worst character in the entire show
@RobertEdwinHouse94 жыл бұрын
Dude this was the BEST SEASON ever! How can you disrespect a character like that?! What do you mean by Bran did nothing? He sat and flew crows hey! -_-
@PringleandCheese4 жыл бұрын
@Lizzy Swan Great character development exactly! Finally someone who understands! Bran falls out of the window learns how to turn his eyes white, gets Summer and Hodor killed, again flies crows, looks emotionless etc etc. He has the greatest story of all. All hail Bran the Broken🙌🙌
@PringleandCheese4 жыл бұрын
Littlefinger’s death probably angered me the most. The fact he got outsmarted that easily despite how well established it was how smart he was was infuriating. How the hell did I figure out Sansa and Arya were plotting to kill him but he didn’t?
@HEYitzED Жыл бұрын
My best explanation would be that he severely underestimated Sansa but that makes no sense considering he literally tells her not to underestimate people and be surprised
@Calebe428 Жыл бұрын
Littlefinger died by the hands of bad writing poor fans
@Hogsmeat Жыл бұрын
@@Hogsmeat same with the night king
@Calebe428 Жыл бұрын
Disclaimer: Im a bit late to the party so I got to binge watch the entire thing (thank god or i would have probably burnt my eyes out if I was hit by season 8 straight out of the oven) tbh i just accepted the show ended in season 4, the other seasons are just parodies. I remember just powering through season 5-8 like its some kind of tedious chore, I was hate watching at that point. I remember watching season 1-4 in like 2 days, short sleeps, and even in my dreams the show was playing, I got so invested that i triggered a lucid dream where i was overseeing GOT interact, AND THEY WERE IN CHARACTER LMAOOO, ENGLISH AINT EVEN MY MOTHER TONGUE yet I can remember tyrion and ned having a playful banter in my dream, the setting was apt as well. GOT is the best show I ever watched so seeing it deteriorate slowly from season 5 onwards led me accumulating enough dread in my soul to lose faith in tv shows. I was not into tv shows back then so GOT was a painful start.
@Wombat627 Жыл бұрын
Actually there's a deleted scene of Bran telling his sisters about his scheme and wants to tear them apart and I can't believe that they didn't show that scene so it would more make sense! I can't believe that Littlefinger is stupid enough to send Sansa back to Winterfell when The Boltons who killed his childhood crush, Caitlyn who's also Sansa's mom in Red Wedding! And he's assumed Ramsay is a good boy to take care of Sansa? Look at that guy's face! That doesn't look like a guy who can be trusted. Fucking really? Even Book Littlefinger is smart enough to hide Sansa by making her as his alleged bastard daughter. If you're really love Caitlyn very much, why did you do that? And Littlefinger's story arc for the last 3 seasons is becoming Sansa's Pedophile Simp! Are you fucking kidding me?
@margarethmichelina514611 ай бұрын
The thing that makes me so angry about this show is how pointless and useless everything surrounding John Snow turned out to be. John IS the song of Ice and Fire. He is the child of Lyanna Stark (Ice) and Rheagar Targaryen (Fire). The entire story is built upon his secret lineage, the fact that he is the true heir to the Iron throne by a legitimate but secret marriage. This reveal should have been MASSIVE. His ability to ride a dragon should have been a monumental scene, similar to the type of scene that Dany was given. The revelation of his lineage was THE revelation of the show, he has a higher claim than even Dany - but it was diminished significantly. The prophecies, him being brought back to life, The Prince That Was Promised - this all goes absolutely nowhere, and had no purpose whatsoever in his destiny. And the final nail in the coffin is that John returns to the fucking wall like the nobody bastard he started as. Everything about his arc amounts to NOTHING. What a trash ending. An ending so bad it managed to undo the entire legacy of what would have been the greatest show of all time.
@midnightcharasmr9 ай бұрын
oh and he went back to a wall that was there to prevent the walkers from going south, now that there's no more walkers wtf do they need the wall or people to watch it?? it has a massive hole in it and it was created with magic, so they couldn't make it again and why would they if there's no more zombie?? all the wildlong were already south. nothing makes sense nothingggg
@mirziyob2 ай бұрын
Absolutely, at least have him lead the white walkers like Aragorn did for the dead and then have them battle it put with Daenarys and the dragons. Then it would be a TRUE song of ice and fire.
@UtikaCollarАй бұрын
But the strong career waman must be higher to screw up the culture even more.
@Olorin-wp9itАй бұрын
Targaryens lost their right to the Throne with Baratheon’s Rebellion.
@gloriaregali9090Ай бұрын
@@mirziyobwasn’t he sent to the wall for his vein of killing danny by the unsullied
@zave_0224 күн бұрын
Tyrion: "Bran, you should be king". Bran: "I can't be king". Tyrion: "But you must be king". Bran: "K" Bran: "Tyrion, you will be hand". Tyrion: "I can't be hand". Bran: "But you must be hand". Tyrion: "K"
@WoodyWoodson19844 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@aditidorle14484 жыл бұрын
POOPY
@eric-vu1jy4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@rohitsaroj66374 жыл бұрын
Pure gold.
@maartenboy374 жыл бұрын
You sir won the internet
@DrRAZI994 жыл бұрын
Jon being a Targaryen had no impact on the story really
@jacobhamblin42555 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Except making everyone uncomfortable with the incest
@MilkPudding5 жыл бұрын
MilkPudding even tho nobody really had a problem with the incest yet it was used as an excuse to create drama
@oKiirby5 жыл бұрын
Night King had no impact on the story either. He was literally there only to make Dany´s army weaker so she can use that as an argument in the fight with Jon. The funniest thing ever that they did not even continue with the whole "i lost my army" considering the fact that she had them again in the KL.
@marinakotova515 жыл бұрын
It lets him stealth past Drogon lmao
@simplicit5705 жыл бұрын
had ahuge impact on dany's decision to destroy King's Landing and her choice to rule through fear instead of love.
@Billyboy22885 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the first season when Ned got his head yoinked I actually gasped in disbelief, and had to watch it like 3 more times to be sure that REALLY happened. I was firmly convinced that Ned was THE hero of the story, but then he unceremoniously dies in the very first season. It was unbelievable, I had never seen something like that. It's a fantasy story where recklessness and stupidity gets you punished real bad, real fast. Fast forward some 6 seasons and all the "plot twists" in the show just seemed to be there for plot twists' sake. All the recklessness gets rewarded, specially from the main characters, and all stupidity gets a bypass. Nothing really surprised me and made me gasp as I did when watching Ned's death, or when reading the Red Wedding scene, or even the death of Lady, Sansa's direwolf in the very second episode.
@rodri_merli27 Жыл бұрын
Ugh when Sansa’s direwolf was killed I was a mess
@epizzle92328 ай бұрын
The story also became very predictable after season 4.
@WaitImOnDaToliet2 ай бұрын
sansa's direwolf being killed established extremely early on what was supposed to be a recurring theme through the story - the world isn't fair. things don't just work out the way you want because you want them to work out that way. kick and scream and beg and plead all you want, this world will extract its toll, no matter how wrong you think it is. it sort of gave you that "no, that can't happen that way, that doesn't even make any sense i'm sure they'll just figure it out" type of feeling and then NOPE, lady was dead and that was that, get over it because what you want or what you feel is right or justified are irrelevant in this story
@SynsityGW2 ай бұрын
The show and books actually went way too far in the other direction, into nihilistic territory. In reality most kingdoms did not function like Westeros and a character like Ned very often was loved by all and lived to an old age.
@sercastamere9853Ай бұрын
@@sercastamere9853 i think if you look deeper you may find that this a story of "what if the true heroes of our time (rhaegar, nedd, oberyn, etc) were killed before they had their chance to fix things, and this is all we're left with
@SynsityGWАй бұрын
It's also so infuriating how they managed Tyrion. He once was the smartest, wittiest character only rivaled by Varys and Petys and still he always had the edge. He was such an amazing character because despite being an "imp", the unwanted son and a villain in many peoples eyes, he was still a kind mand who was always a hindred steps ahead. But then, as soon as he starts counseling for Daenerys, all of a sudden EVERY SINGLE one of his plans, fail. And the perfectionist Queen who doesn't tolerate those kinds of mistakes decides to keep him even after he fucked up like 5 times in a row. Tyrion from the book would've conquered the world the moment he met Daenerys, but they just hard nerfed him.
@nicodamus689511 ай бұрын
I love Emilia Clarke for that interview. “Best season ever” *cringe face* 😂
@Jacob-jg6cd5 жыл бұрын
Big props to Nathalie Emmanuel keeping it completely straight faced knowing she wants a career after this
@alexfurnas12635 жыл бұрын
yeah they were just taking the piss at this point.
@marlondasilva91925 жыл бұрын
Not as good as Peter Dinklage's "A sniper is pointing a gun to my head, please help"-face, when he was obligated to praise D&D for their 'skill'.
@sherlocksmuuug66925 жыл бұрын
Jacob I feel so bad for her.
@HurricaneDDragon5 жыл бұрын
I may hate Dany, but i love Emilia Clarke so much, she's a national treasure, a gift to humanity
@whodatninja4395 жыл бұрын
The real problem is that as a writer it's impossible to write characters that are smarter than you are.
@aviation110003 жыл бұрын
I feel this cuz one character in my book im writing is suppose to be the smartest person in the world but im just a stupid high school kid so writing is kind of hard
@yodelingshrimp83163 жыл бұрын
This is a very underrated comment.
@villanjo3 жыл бұрын
@@yodelingshrimp8316 Have you ever watch death note? I hear it's a great anime, I'm not saying fashion your character off of it but it should at least help.
@omnianimator84683 жыл бұрын
@@omnianimator8468 ya i need to finish it and i get what you mean
@yodelingshrimp83163 жыл бұрын
@Cthulhu All-Spark ill keep that in mind. thx
@yodelingshrimp83163 жыл бұрын
Just stopped by in 2024 to be pissed again. Bravo.
@smashtoad2 ай бұрын
yeah we will never fully recover from this lol
@Katzenkaiser42 ай бұрын
@@Katzenkaiser4 yup. I told everyone who would listen that it was the best television show ever made... and it wasn't even close. That was somewhere in season 5....ha.
@smashtoad2 ай бұрын
What if they redo season 8 and then go all the way up to season 10? Sounds good but highly unlikely to happen.
@Infiltrator_Ай бұрын
@@Infiltrator_it´s time to move on brother. the only hope left is martin finishing the damn books
@Katzenkaiser4Ай бұрын
@@Katzenkaiser4which will happen when the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When the seas go dry and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves
@Nathan-jh1hoАй бұрын
I’ve liked Brienne all throughout the show. I’m barely ok with her falling in love with Jamie, but her breaking down into tears when he rode away and refusing to do anything about it was terrible. Especially after only spending like 2 days romantically involved with him.
@davedeman8093 Жыл бұрын
Disagree. She spent literally years doubting this man. Her walls fall slowly and when she finally really lets him in he leaves. Her not being emotional about that would’ve been weird af
@jakecollin549911 ай бұрын
@@jakecollin5499 Crying is obviously ok, but Brienne just standing there not saying anything after Jamie characterised himself as the worst person alive is not. He showed her and others compassion. She cared for him. Character development thrown into the trash can within 2 minutes.
@albatross707511 ай бұрын
@@albatross7075um or maybe that’s just what he ended up being like in the end? no “character development”
@Am0ha8 ай бұрын
Yeah i'm never going to get the disappointment people have with Tough Iconoclastic Upright Rebel Lady Figure having layers of complexity to her that might make her cry over a dude.
@thedacardea4167 ай бұрын
@@thedacardea416 yeah I’ve kinda softened on this scene over time, my main problem now is her not doing anything after the betrayal except making sure he’s remembered fondly
@davedeman80937 ай бұрын
D&D didn't just kill the show, they killed its rewatchability. If the show had lived up to the hype until the very ending, it would've become a timeless classic. But thanks to D&D, rewatching it, knowing how it ends, will never be worth it.
@as7river3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm... I was ok with the battle; except arya killing the night king when that was JOHN'S story. But killing the dragon out of NOWHERE? Now jamie? And now missandei. I just cannot. When they cut the scene right before Bran tells arya and sansa about Jon... This is the hottest pile of fucking garbage I've seen and I regret rewatching the show. Its just shit scene after shit scene, after shit scene. There's no moment of sweetness, satisfaction. If you're thinking of rewatching it... don't.
@Ava-ns4go3 жыл бұрын
@@Ava-ns4go I rewatch it, then I stop at about season 8, episode 2 and then make up my own ending in my head.
@spirittammyk3 жыл бұрын
Not only that. They kind of ruined the book ending as well, as if the ending is the same, there is no surprise :(
@juanpablomorenopitti3 жыл бұрын
D&D didn't make the series "jump the shark", because that phrase implies pushing an established plot structure too far. They simply didn't give a fuck, They ignored established plot structures (or didn't understand them), and so blithely wiped out seasons-long arches, as well as all seven seasons of previous, detailed plot development. They weren't interested, and and they didn't even bother pretending they were. It's still *so* frustrating. It feels like spending seven years investing in a special, beloved pet project, then at the last minute having some disinterested expert come in, take control, drop a massive, steaming dump on it, and walk away.
@koretmulder63163 жыл бұрын
Truth. I wanted to rewatch to see the early seasons, but then I got mad that the end sucked and I just didn't bother, lol.
@DJMarcO1383 жыл бұрын
"the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives" and then all the Starks go solo, are totally alone and separated from one another.
@Sekhmet19775 жыл бұрын
That right there is why I think the whole ending leans way, WAY too hard on the 'bitter' part of bittersweet. Other than minor characters like Bronn or Podrick, the only endings that appear mostly happy are those of the Starks, and specifically Arya and Sansa. But Arya is leaving her family again even though that was the WHOLE point of her storyline in Braavos ("A girl is Arya Stark of Winterfell, and I'm going home"). And Sansa is Queen in the North (which I'll be honest is the only part of the finale that didn't totally piss me off), but she's ruling alone. There are **ZERO** other named characters in the shot with her. Not even Brienne, who was *sworn to Sansa by Catelyn*. But no, she's at the Small Council, I guess because the optics of an all-male council after Cersei and Dany both got the Mad Queen treatment would be bad.
@aevenstar1005 жыл бұрын
Not trying to defend the show (specially as a book reader and Dorne fan), but you've cut the beginning and it IS important. "When winter comes and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives." Winter came and apparently (for the show?) went away, and during this event, the pack was together. After that, it wasn't much needed anymore. However, not even going on about how Winter should last years and years (because there is this doubt about winter - "does winter bring the white walkers, or do they make winter come?"), but there is a lot of symbolism in ASOIAF/GOT about characters and their house sigils. Much like a wolf, Ned Stark was loyal to the only woman he had in his life officially, but the loyalty to his own blood made him lie about it and keep this secret for the rest of his life. Much like wolves, the Starks work better when they're together and in the North, their home. When they get separated, even though it's not Winter yet, things go terribly wrong. If they had stayed in the North together and Ned refused being Hand, none of them would have to die. In fact, the North would have Ned, Robb etc to lead them to the war against the White Walkers. Separating the pack after they tried to hard to go back home and stick together just seems.... wrong. Arya fought so hard to go back to her home, but she just leaves and promises to not come back. Bran isn't even Bran anymore, the little kid who constantly defied rules just to try and see his home and his father again in visions - nothing. Jon - yeah, he was never really a Stark, but Winterfell was his home and he was so ready to break his vows and fight besides Robb for it. He had the North AND the Stark blood in him, but I guess he had no choice over his own ending bc the show didn't know what to do with him after shitting on the idea of him being a protagonist because fuck logic, we want to subvert expectations!!! Sansa is the only one who actually stood by the North and her home, and being honest - she never even liked it as a kid. She was never too close to her brothers anyways. She was constantly shown as more of a trout than a wolf, and Lady dying so early set the tone for it, but I can kinda accept the show's choices since they gave her Jeyne Poole's arc. Idk man, this whole symbolism just got thrown in the dumpster and it makes me sad too.
@heyitsmira175 жыл бұрын
But the pack can't survive anyways, there will never have others Starks because there is no male Stark who can father children.
@clem72tro5 жыл бұрын
@@aevenstar100 spit the truth ,my friend
@liaspooked49804 жыл бұрын
They go their own ways until they all come back together in season 8. And the Starks survive.
@runninginsept4 жыл бұрын
"I don't even feel like I watched the ending of this show, it was so unsatisfying." This is exactly how I feel, I still can't even accept what we got as an ending. There was no closure or satisfaction at all and it was so unbelievably insulting to the viewers intelligence.
@natb991911 ай бұрын
It is such a shame that this show was gonna go down as the greatest television show ever made, but now it's the biggest joke and biggest disappointment in television history.
@IDontReadRepliesToComments Жыл бұрын
1,000%. Will be studied on how not to conclude a good series. Completely killed the fandom. Conventions for Harry Potter, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings exist decades later. Zero for GoT.
@seitavwАй бұрын
True. It was starting to surpass Breaking Bad for me, and then… no. Went from a 10/10 to an 8 or 9, and I often forget about it when I discuss my favorite shows.
@bencarlson43009 күн бұрын
Everyone: "what was the point of the white walkers in the show?" ... D&D: "we kind of forgot the white walkers were in the show."
@joshuaplank40014 жыл бұрын
What was the point of R+L=J? That was the center of a main plot and he ends up back in the stupid North? He didn’t even get to kill the Knight King and return to the North. What was the point of Bran (Until we could flashback and see Jon’s parentage), his story is the WORST. Jon AND Sam have better stories than Bran, and everyone else actually. Damn, Davos has a better story.
@stephaniefromvirginia87444 жыл бұрын
So apparently, they should have ended the series at episode 3 of Season 8, in order to preserve the importance and centrality of the Night King to the story? That would have solved that problem, right?
@AK-dd9od4 жыл бұрын
@@stephaniefromvirginia8744 What was the point of the Golden Company? All the gold looted from High Garden was used to pay for them. Now there's an investment that went up in smoke.
@Catubrannos4 жыл бұрын
@@stephaniefromvirginia8744 The fucking direwolves have a better story than bran.
@Person012344 жыл бұрын
D&D: We thought we were writing Harry Potter and a good plot didn’t matter. Imagine our surprise in Season Eight when we finally realized we were writing Game of Thrones. It was like, Hey wait, Game of What?
@54markl4 жыл бұрын
In every interview about season 8, the cast looks like they're being held hostage
@alyssaj87795 жыл бұрын
Tara Jones leading up to season 7 I remember almost every cast member was saying best season to date. Not One cast member said this about s8 except Emilia in a sarcastic way.
@jjgen7365 жыл бұрын
That one Peter Dinklage interview was hard to watch. It was so awkward and obvious he didn't mean what he was saying
@ziva92665 жыл бұрын
@@jjgen736 I think she was speaking from the viewpoint of her character. Same with the other actors who said it was disappointing. I could be wrong but actors don't usually shit talk things they're in. It's just bad business ethics, especially before something is released
@redners115 жыл бұрын
@Cherry Muse There were HBO snipers aiming at his head. It is known.
@ziva92665 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this last season. Now I know why it was terrible and awful. But I enjoyed it nonetheless.
@ChunkyJo5 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how Winterfell refused to join the Seven Kingdoms when a frickin' Stark sat on the throne.
@gamer-san8923 Жыл бұрын
And the Iron Islands didn't make a point of declaring independence.
@redbloodcell4047 Жыл бұрын
Why do any of the other kingdoms bother? The targ dynasty (the rightful heirs to the iron throne, even Bobby B had to find he was related in order to have a claim) is gone. Nothing is keeping them from all dissolving into divided countries proper again
@valance102 ай бұрын
@@redbloodcell4047neither does Dorne who fought the longest for independence
@zave_0224 күн бұрын
It's crazy how they were granted independence by the first Stark king and everyone was fine and didn't instantly get mad at this extremely preferential treatment. Like damn we got a Stark king and the first thing he does is kiss the ass of the north at the cost of everyone else
@icantcomeupwithagoodusername6 күн бұрын
When I heard that the writers caught up to books I was like “Oh I’m sure it’ll still be fine, they’ve been writing these characters for ages” then I watched one episode and I felt all positivity drain out of me across that one episode and I just stopped. My mum and dad continued and after the last episode of the series my mum was livid and dad wouldn’t even let me ask, just immediately shut me down when I asked “what was so bad”. That’s how I found out just how bad it was
@ashessakura751810 ай бұрын
Book readers have the worst take about any show based on a book.
@dustinjackson33189 ай бұрын
@@dustinjackson3318 yep, that's TOTALLY what happened there. Lol such a goofy ass hOt TaKe 🤪
@DarlingMissDarling8 ай бұрын
@@dustinjackson3318Reader here. I read the books all together after seeing the show. And I think it was worse for me, than for those who read them when they came out. Aside from characters not appearing on the show, and unless Martin changes everything he's previously written, the story is going in a completely different direction.
@paolarosichetti8995 ай бұрын
7 years: Winter is coming 5 seconds: *Winter left the chat*
@semperludens92415 жыл бұрын
After season 8: SPRING HAS COME!
@scottbruckner46535 жыл бұрын
*Winter is going home to Rethink its Life.*
@JackRendar5 жыл бұрын
@@JackRendar Winter: "Screw you guys, I'm going home."
@semperludens92415 жыл бұрын
Winter was coming Winter Came Winter saw it was not okay Winter said : NOT TODAY
@kikmoe26645 жыл бұрын
winter picked up his ball and said screw you guys im going home
@123benley5 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced Dany only burned down the city because they thought it would look cool
@BranDoesThings3 жыл бұрын
To be fair it looked really fuckin cool.
@eonsislept2073 жыл бұрын
@@eonsislept207 it did look cool But without a real reason
@jokersherri81103 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@neoluthuli32543 жыл бұрын
they went with the "rule of cool" from pen&papers...... and rolled a nat20
@alexanderzack37203 жыл бұрын
Most of the things that happened... happened because the writers thought it would look cool.
@darkevilazn3 жыл бұрын
I heard of an story that at season 7 George told the show runners they needed at least 12 seasons in total to do the Song of Ice and Fire properly. But D&D swore they could do it in 8, and well, we see how that ended up. I didn’t watch the show but I remember all the insane disappointment from friends. I’m currently reading the series though
@theuntimelyhippo7232 Жыл бұрын
As disappointing as the last two seasons were, I would highly recommend watching the show once you’ve finished the books. It really is some of the best television to ever exist. Also, if you haven’t already, I’d also recommend reading Fire & Blood and then watching House of the Dragon. Ooh and then read A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms with Dunk and Egg! Also, A World of Fire and Ice is an amazing companion book! The amount of detail GRR Martin puts into his world building is mind boggling!
@icatfishedyourdad27679 ай бұрын
Pretty sure Dumb and dumber actually wanted to do 7 seasons but HBO was like come on bruh you can do 8 and then they said we will do 13 episodes and no more and HBO said okay if that’s what will be needed. They just wanted it to be over. Honestly I think it would have been better if they just fully got there way. Kinda think they knew what they did was bad but just didn’t care
@ayourmum85218 ай бұрын
Wow be prepared to greater disappointment because storylines are really not finished to this day with no book release in sight.
@CaptainSportExtreme8 ай бұрын
You could consider Grey Worm/The Unsullied as a whole other character arc/plot that screwed up the ending; they occupied Kings Landing, held Jon as prisoner for killing their queen despite being free men, and demanded he serve justice. With how Jon's claim to the throne existed, he should have had no reasosn to serve time or justice, and got sent to a Nights Watch that the realm no longer had need for. Then what do they do? They pack up a ship and leave for Naath. There was no reason for them to keep Jon, occupy Kings Landing, only to leave when they had no reason to stay in the first place. Just seems like D&D had no real clue what to do with them.
@bamfhoneybadger Жыл бұрын
D&D had no clue what to do with the entire series once they ran out of books and dialogue FROM the books to use. Once they were on their own, they were terrible. I think that Game of Thrones is more of a testament to GRRM's writing ability than D&D's directing prowess. It was basically two monkeys given a piano that plays it's own music as long as they put batteries in it, but once the batteries ran out, they still had no idea how to use and essentially shit on the piano, flung it against the wall and walked away from it.
@husky3g2 ай бұрын
In 36 years I have NEVER seen something that was such a phenomenon, leave the public zeitgeist so quickly. This is a show that took over media around the world and yet here we are, barely a year later, and it’s almost never mentioned anymore. It goes to show how a messed up ending can completely ruin a piece of works legacy.
@briansabogal18793 жыл бұрын
So fucking true
@leviathan50953 жыл бұрын
ya no joke... even mentioning Game of thrones at this point is cringey af.
@toufiq3093 жыл бұрын
DarksUper3DgeLord Toufiq not at all. Even with the ending, seasons 1-6 were so well done the show remains one of the best shows of all time. People who think otherwise, or were that disappointed by the ending, never understood the show in the first place. And your comment confirms you are one of those people. If you really understood the show, you wouldn’t say, “cringey af”.
@jking49733 жыл бұрын
@@jking4973 imagine if they ended breaking bad by curing Walter whites cancer, having his family all love him and go and live together in a massive mansion and its all fine. That's how badly they ended game of thrones, you may disagree but that's my opinion. If you enjoyed the ending then fair play to you 👏
@Jamesmac953 жыл бұрын
@@Jamesmac95 y'all are trying to speak logically to a stan account with a Daenerys avatar.
@CamJames3 жыл бұрын
“They ran outta books” pretty much sums it up.
@274pacific4 жыл бұрын
@@JinMeowsoon so they just stop giving a shit ? that sounds even worst than them running out of books
@WiiSage4 жыл бұрын
RandomTipsyLemon hellll no lol there’s so much shit they could’ve adapted into the show that would’ve given them exponentially more nuance then what they had in season 8. Young griff and the Blackfyres are cut out entirely, lady stone heart is cut, pretty much everything about Eurons entire character is cut out, Victorian isn’t even in the fucking show which sucks, the entirety of Sansas storyline in feast for crows is cut out in order to remarry her to Ramsey so she can be raped. There’s so much shit that they left out of the show that would’ve not only given them nuance but it also would’ve just made the show longer giving George an opportunity to actually finish the books or at least give them more detailed outlines of what to do with the later seasons. Instead they rushed past pretty much all of feast for crows and Dance of Dragons.
@sergiomendoza40404 жыл бұрын
That’s no excuse. They’re supposed to be writers. Write.
@spooplegeist52604 жыл бұрын
@@JinMeowsoon I know right? I've been reading the last 2 books and I don't remember any scenes from those books in the show
@omarenriqueguzmanlopez35224 жыл бұрын
@@sergiomendoza4040 exactly I hated that they omitted storylines from a AFFC and ADWD, if they didn't want to do the amount of seasons needed to fully adapt the books then they shouldn't have been given this project (GRRM knew they didn't want as many seasons as he thought they needed so he shouldn't have given it to them) or they should've handed it to someone else who still had passion for the story.
@sydnitheromantictaylor1124 жыл бұрын
If people manage to guess your ending before it happens, it doesn’t necessarily just mean you are overly predictable. It just means your story made sense and the conclusion is logical. If you subvert expectations by doing something wildly different, that isn’t clever. It makes your story absolutely insane.
@HeartThief21 Жыл бұрын
When the actor who played Bran did the reading prior to Season 8, he seriously felt that someone gave him a prank script, it was that bad. Sadly for him and everyone else, it was the real thing.
@Steve_Hickman Жыл бұрын
If you watch the video of the casts doing table reading on Season 8, you can see Varys' actor immediately flipped his script after learns how he dies.
@margarethmichelina5146 Жыл бұрын
Fact that actors other writers and producers gave different ideas and D&D ego got in the way shows how much they didn't care about anyone and everything. The actor who played ser barastain selmy spoke up against the direction his character was going compared to the books D&D just killed off his character cuz they got butt hurt.
@tysonleblanc88625 ай бұрын
"Jon is sad because everyone is mad at each other" I burst out laughing at that
@MrMysterioso5 жыл бұрын
@Michael Artemis They didn't have the balls to release an inside episode, so we will never know how they will justify that.
@danielhiguita55115 жыл бұрын
I read that in David Benioff's voice. Just like when he says "Dany kinda forgot"
@obsessivefangirl50554 жыл бұрын
*sits there with a confused face staring at all the sassy women in his life*
@danman17893 жыл бұрын
Me too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, we should do a parody together of this bullshit 😅😅
@georgeclooney62083 жыл бұрын
I was laughing so hard and now reading your comment Im laughing about it again. Jons gloomy face when he says that was priceless
@jackmemphis32033 жыл бұрын
I finished the show in 10 days and I am so disappointed. I can only imagine how the people who followed it for 5-6 years must have felt
@sameerkashyap17502 жыл бұрын
dude I just finished the series myself for the first time within like 8 weeks. I can’t even imagine the pain after 8 years of being invested. So underwhelming :(
@sandman_b2 жыл бұрын
I literally don't watch TV shows anymore as they are released because of this show. I just wait for them to be over so I can binge them. I got so invested in GoT over those years only to get crushed the last season. Never again lol.
@stuffylamb34202 жыл бұрын
GoT does not deserve the criticism it receives, I'm glad I am one of the people that actually likes season 7 and 8
@jmz21442 жыл бұрын
at some point when the lanisters layed down thier swords. It wouldve been the perfect ending if arya killed cercei and the clegange brothers killing each other. Maybe have jaimy fight with tyrions sellsword (i dont remmber his name) and then maybe the dragon queen just returning to the east with all her loyal people because she realised she shouldnt be king of westeros and it wouldve been perfect
@lukas66102 жыл бұрын
Bad, Sameer. Real damn bad.
@hopobilbow15512 жыл бұрын
I just finished the series today, how does nobody talk about how we saw thousands of people get wiped out by the white walkers, basically everyone, yet after they kill the night king their armies are perfectly fine? I thought there was going to be some creative way they would have to defeat cersei due to lack of numbers. But no, just a regular old battle with a massive army. Hell, their plan was to surround the city!? WHERE DID THIS ARMY COME FROM
@saccboi Жыл бұрын
One of my biggest pet peeves was Sansa doing nothing in the crypt when she was given a knife and there were people getting massacred down there
@spookypig80436 ай бұрын
My issue with that is when Jon was King in the North she heard him order every male & female to train in combat. She's 5'9" (taller than Jon & Arya) and able bodied and it was an apocalypse and she had people who could've taught her at least the basics of self defense but she refused.
@hybridbutterfly39086 ай бұрын
What I want to know is how the fuck skeletons managed to smash through solid stone
@valance102 ай бұрын
Out of everything that happened in that episode that’s what annoyed you the most 💀
@thereallofigirl20 күн бұрын
First Bran went out the window Then Tommen went out the window Then writing went too
@fixyourposture69594 жыл бұрын
Still someone show me how great writing could have saved it with only 6 episodes left.. it couldn't. Especially if they didn't kill off the white walkers so easily
@michaelxz13054 жыл бұрын
Michael Xz It's a shame the show couldn't : /
@tidepride864 жыл бұрын
Ser Writing of House Benioffandweiss is truly the worst character in Game of Thrones.
@OnlyRoke4 жыл бұрын
The writing went out the window long before Tommen. Remember the bad p00sy, the north remembers
@sernoddicusthegallant69864 жыл бұрын
SerNoddicusTheGallant truth!!
@fixyourposture69594 жыл бұрын
"I DONT WANT THA THROOOONE!! SHES MA KWEEEN!" -Jon for all of szn 8
@Funkymuffins123XP5 жыл бұрын
My Brudas where is da kweeen?
@xthesayuri57565 жыл бұрын
the spiciest taco 😂so true
@VideoVigilante5 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else just automatically read that with an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice?
@primalrex19055 жыл бұрын
Someone visits r/freefolk
@phiwokuhleqwabe20975 жыл бұрын
@@slyceth You mean the scene when the mountain make the head of the Viper explode?? This was the best scene ever aired on TV's. Grow up, it was never meant to be a show for little children.
@MidnightatMidian5 жыл бұрын
The show runners straight rushed to end it because they were set to make Star Wars movies. They fucked GOT up so bad that they lost Star Wars
@rodanhibiki59807 ай бұрын
This KZhead video was written better then the last season and I’m not joking
@owens17107 ай бұрын
*Tyrion:* It's not for you to decide. *Grey Worm:* YOU ARE NOT HERE TO SPEAK! *Tyrion:* 'he speaks for 3 minutes and decides the Fate of Westeros'
@Cadrieldur5 жыл бұрын
this was the craziest bit for me,he just killed a queen grey worms saviour,and he is told not to speak as he is a prisoner...then he decides all of their fates and everyone agrees its up to him?????wtf
@bradheadband80155 жыл бұрын
Grey worm: *pikachu face*
@sriramkailasam10555 жыл бұрын
Brad Headband I know, why would anyone listen to anymore of Tyrion’s bad advice.
@nubiannile46065 жыл бұрын
Bran: I dont want to be king Tyrion: Bran pls be king Bran: Why do you think i came all this way
@tomchch5 жыл бұрын
bravo dabid, bravo
@Drakkiore5 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how this show had SUCH a bad ending that it literally erased itself from pop culture. This show went from “mainstream, one of the most popular TV shows, almost as quotable as Star Wars and Lord of the Rings, most people know about it” to “mostly forgotten, hasn’t been popular in years, literally never referenced anymore, only actually remembered by disgruntled people who used to be fans”. It was so shitty it literally undid the show’s entire legacy and reputation, now it’s just “that one show that everyone used to watch”. I don’t think a bad ending on that scale has been replicated before, nor do I think it will be again. It’s THE most infamous show ending ever.
@nqrtzy87652 жыл бұрын
Imma gonne watch game of thrones for the first time today wish me luck
@Moesie2 жыл бұрын
@@Moesie man don't waste your time but hey you were warned
@sydnitheromantictaylor1122 жыл бұрын
@@sydnitheromantictaylor112 i did but I did speed up a little, skipped all the talks. I kept the excellent scene of the beatifull ladies 😂👍. So it took me like 10 minutes to watch each episode and the fighting scenes. But i skipped all the talks
@Moesie2 жыл бұрын
It's nearly identical to how Dexter was some of the best TV ever capped off by a horribly written ending. Only on an infinitely larger scale.
@librarygary16182 жыл бұрын
@@Moesie incredible troll lmao
@librarygary16182 жыл бұрын
As disappointing as the last seasons were i think my biggest letdown was Selmy's death. Here's a man who can win 1v1 against Brienne, the Hound, Jaime, the Mountain, Oberyn, Jon & Robert and who could still very possibly kill half of them if they all banded together against him, and he dies getting shoved around by a mob of paper masked nobodies. Shame.
@Eniril17 ай бұрын
It was when i tapped out. For me, 😊it was the first deathbon the show that felt badly written and kinda dumb.
@Square-ow7oq27 күн бұрын
It was a big mistake like 10 years ago when everyone started praising media for "subverting expectations". If the twist can be anticipated from the plot's direction and themes, that's not a mistake, that is good. That means it's a good, coherent story. Subverting those expectations can also be a good thing, if you either 1) subvert common tropes in ways that are logical for your story, or 2) foreshadow a narrative twist subtly enough where it's still there, but may not be apparent on a first watch. 1) is a Ned Stark's death in GoT. 2) is Sixth Sense. The last season (or two) of GoT is just a twist for the sake of a twist, it is the equivalent of wattpad writers throwing a tantrum over someone guessing their ending.
@krkngd-wn6xj5 ай бұрын
The end of GoT is like when Robot Chicken makes fun of M Night Shamalan when something happens and he pops up to say what a twist
@09hicktown3 ай бұрын
Breaking Bad had the most satisfying ending of all shows. And that series never had any books or material to adapt from. You just need better writers, that's all.
@hiranmaydas49213 жыл бұрын
Breaking Bad is also the greatest show of all time.. GoT tried but failed..
@buddharocks4923 жыл бұрын
There are only 5 characters also and a very common storyline(selling drugs to help your family), GoT is way more complex
@miguelvarona4633 жыл бұрын
@@miguelvarona463 Ah yes breaking bad only has 5 characters. All the other cast were ghosts all along.
@MrWhite-ru3oz3 жыл бұрын
@@MrWhite-ru3oz Lmao it says something when people are still pissed about game of thrones
@viz48843 жыл бұрын
@@miguelvarona463 GoT is more complex??? Bwahahaha, lol. It might be on much bigger scale - but Breaking Bad is far more complex and deep show. you can even make Connection with fucking God or Jesus with some characters. Fucking swimming pools have depth behind them.
@PolishGod12343 жыл бұрын
Bran: "Yes, I can. I'M KING." "Any man who must say, 'I am the king' is no true king." - Tywin Lannister
@lammergeier3215 жыл бұрын
Tbf as stupid it was to make bran king that line actually kinda made sense in that context. Grey worm tells them they can pick a king (idk why the biggest lords of westeros suddenly need grey worms approval for aynthing) and then when they do he immediately tries to shit on the first thing the "king" does. It felt like grey worm needs some sort of a reminder that at the end of the day he's a nobody because he was acting like he owns westeros
@peterumathum49035 жыл бұрын
What bugs me is quote "Wy do you think i came all this way?" As Brans response for Tyrions question if he'll be the king... he doesnt want to be one and he did all that nothing just to be one? I have missed something or i really dont know
@PlesnivejSejra5 жыл бұрын
@@PlesnivejSejra lol and in the very same scene he goes on to say "i dont want to be king" and none of the 15 people sitting there seem to pick up on this fuckery
@peterumathum49035 жыл бұрын
Power is power. - Cercei Lannister
@Psykeeper9935 жыл бұрын
@@peterumathum4903 exactly! And here i always thought im simple consumer and i wont see these kind of bad writings...
@PlesnivejSejra5 жыл бұрын
I also never understood grey worm in the end. He actually gains a heart in the later seasons and then decides to kill innocent civilians and poor people even tho that’s what he was against from the beginning. All because he was following his queen. Made no sense
@Skippy-di5je4 ай бұрын
Jon has always had a hero's journey. Not after the show drifted away from the books. He has had a hero's journey since book 1, it's just so subtly written, hidden deep beneath all the other big stuff happening in the series. He is the ultimate main character of the series, after all he is literally the song(son) of ice (lyanna) and fire (rhaegar). It was a fresh and creative interpretation of the hero's journey concept, and D&D just subverted our expectations by having him do absolutely nothing of importance in the culmination of the plot he's been integral to since season 1, the very reason he got fkn resurrected for. Thanks a lot.
@datsj215211 ай бұрын
He's going to be an anti-hero, dnd didn't understand that necromancy is not a good thing and that those reanimated through dark magic will never be the same people afterward. We already have an example of this who is not Jon.
@threestars21647 ай бұрын
i thought it was a song of ice and fire as in jon (ice) and dany (fire)
@RED-my9hl4 ай бұрын
@@RED-my9hlme too i really dont believe azor ahai is jon or only jon
@callmekhaleesi3 ай бұрын
My biggest issue is that they been talking about “Winter is Coming” since episode 1 and Winter is over in one episode???
@ItsMeRhaine3 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming that it will be an entire novel for the Whyte story line to wrap up and an entire book for the Dany v Cersei to wrap up. And like huge 1000+ books for both. So the books seem like they are on the right track in terms of pacing and being more consistent. Edit. I'm sure he's fretting quite a bit over wrapping up in 2 novels time. He may have to cut books in half again. Did that work for the last two novels? Yes and no.
@Bradley_Lute3 жыл бұрын
@@Bradley_Lute Have you seen GRRM. That dude is going to die before he finish his books. All of us will be left disappointed.
@MohiyuddinShaikh3 жыл бұрын
I agree they built up the Night King for so long just for him to die in episode 3. They should have made him the last villain to die not Cersei
@igiveyouthefacts3 жыл бұрын
@@igiveyouthefacts I'm assuming they were following the way things happen in the unwritten books. Winds of winter is likely the big showdown with the White walkers and a dream of spring is likely the showdown with Cersei. GRRM got the idea from lord of the rings. The issue though, is that they compressed both of these plots into the last two seasons but gave too much weight to the whites and didn't have enough time to flesh out the battle for Kings Landing.
@Bradley_Lute3 жыл бұрын
Climate change. Duh /s
@e.g.44833 жыл бұрын
You know when emilia Clark can't find the positive side of season 8 no one can
@Handle45634 жыл бұрын
Actually really respect her for a moment of honesty rather than fake shilling
@Sough4 жыл бұрын
True....
@HelloItsMikkan4 жыл бұрын
Apparently she was so upset when she read the scripts for the final season she cried, went for a walk, and called friends and family.
@13lood13ath4 жыл бұрын
@@Sough I mean several of them have had that reaction. Oh hell all of them probably have that reaction, even if they don't say it in front of a camera.
@omek64 жыл бұрын
Best season ever!!!! Emilia Clark's demeanor said it all.
@nubiannile46064 жыл бұрын
I really hate when people say “They ran out of books.” D&D didn’t even adapt the material from the books! If they had the show would’ve been much better and probably could’ve went 11 seasons. They didn’t have to make up nonsense if they just adapted the book material that they had! They didn’t run out of material they just didn’t adapt it. They had more than enough material.
@s.w.d40108 ай бұрын
Only good thing about season 8 is that it motivated me to read the books,because I knew George will make much better ending.
@zoran99146 ай бұрын
What I find funny is how smart Tyrion is as a drunk in the earlier seasons but gets dumber and dumber as he sobers up lmao
@themissingpeace79564 жыл бұрын
Tyrion fucks up a lot but fixes all his mistakes at last in seasons 5 to 6. In season 7 and 8 I'm still wondering to this day why Dany didn't throw him off the highest roof
@rahulmenon95303 жыл бұрын
@@smileandnodd supercuts delight said the same thing, he was like does alcohol make him smart
@tasmayshah55393 жыл бұрын
💀
@GeoStorm_3 жыл бұрын
Wine is the equivalent of charisma points in GOT
@alexeiharp76763 жыл бұрын
He did say "I drink and I know things" so, maybe he actually meant it. He drinks, and then he knows things
@staytuned2L3373 жыл бұрын
It would have been so cool if Danny gradually went crazy over like 4 more seasons but instead they did it all in 2 episodes
@ewoudzimmermanns89043 жыл бұрын
Why would D&D do that to my queen 😔👊🏽
@bangtanruinedmylifeinabeau56163 жыл бұрын
Or even a time jump! Have the last episode or two take place after she’s been queen a few years. But D&D had her lose her mind overnight bc her nephew didn’t want to bone her anymore.
@alisaurus42243 жыл бұрын
@@bangtanruinedmylifeinabeau5616 because they wanted to work on their fantasy show where the confederacy and slavery still existed. thank god that never worked out.
@ashergaines5932 жыл бұрын
although i agree it was badly done, i still think there were hints of her insanity all around. first showing the targaryen nature, the ‘flipping a coin’ analogy, then showing the way she often makes mistakes, especially with the ruling of mereen. the way she snapped and burned all the masters, along with the way jorah, barristan, and later tyrion were all trying to suppress her rashest impulses. with all of them gone she faces the final enemy, and therefore snaps on westeros
@lucasnyman54242 жыл бұрын
@@lucasnyman5424 she was definitely headed that way, but they went from gradually ramping up towards The Mad Queen to straight vertical climb into the stratosphere. This guy did a rewrite of just the Battle of Winterfell episode and the last two episodes that actually makes sense, and fit into the constraints of the short season. It can be done, but D&D weren’t interested in trying. kzhead.info/sun/iK6aeZ1tlnOKqmg/bejne.html
@alisaurus42242 жыл бұрын
You are very smart for seeing these points and being able to articulate them in a clear way to your audience. Good job!
@emin9483 ай бұрын
I agree with almost all of this. Yeah the writing went downhill, but in defense of seasons 5 and 6, season 5 was more of a build up season to everything that happens in 6 and beyond, they might have balanced it better but it was still good. For season 6, the reason Cersei decided to blow them up and she changed was because of the Walk of Shame. The whole city saw her walk naked and she was brutally humiliated, and the whole continent would sure as hell hear about it. And she was never loved. I can see how that kind of trauma and anger would end up with her being mad and not giving a shit about subtlety anymore. But yeah… it was VERY weird how that kind of blatant despotism didn’t result in a rebellion by the people in Kings Landing, and how come most of the other lords didn’t think it was an issue later on. I think the scene was well earned, but the aftermath was horribly handled.
@abdykerimabydov7572 Жыл бұрын
"He feels like a guy who just wandered onto the set from another show." Best description of Euron Greyjoy ever.
@MiloDC5 жыл бұрын
Milo Cooper tbh he’s like the opposite version of Daryl Dixon
@shacklesjpg5 жыл бұрын
Eroun Greyjoy is the Creed Bratton of GoT
@heathbarnhart10925 жыл бұрын
Pilou (Euron's actor) was allowed to choose his own costume after his first appearance. He wanted to look like a rockstar (he said so in an interview). Pilou's train of thought was similar to D&D's.
@newera4785 жыл бұрын
He killed some of the worst characters on the show so that gives him a semi-pass for me.
@SHA8UTIE5 жыл бұрын
But what show? My guess is Black Flag.
@Davidbmr19705 жыл бұрын
S1: W S2: I S3: N S4: T S5: E S6: R S7: I S8: S COMING
@reecehayden77314 жыл бұрын
I would make IS to season 7
@andreasjacobsen64264 жыл бұрын
S1: W S2: I S3: N S4: T S5: E S6: R S7: Is coming S8: and it's gone.
@jacobmccabe4584 жыл бұрын
S1: winter is coming S2: winter is coming S3: winter is coming S4: winter is coming S5: winter is coming S6: winter has come S7: winter is here S8: winter is over.
@jacobmccabe4584 жыл бұрын
@@jacobmccabe458 S8: winter is over (but there are still more than a half of the season to go)
@robinlinh4 жыл бұрын
They have been saying Winter is Coming for 7 seasons, and then it got cold for a minute but Dany kept everyone in King's Landing warm.
@aluisious4 жыл бұрын
it happens nearly with every tv shows. chaos multiplies as the show's universe expands, it's hard to not flop a show.
@wangyuan0325 Жыл бұрын
I just don’t understand why ANY show gets made if the story line isn’t fully thought out. Completely setting it up for failure.
@audreyfinlay43782 ай бұрын
Howdy from 2023, still waiting on that sixth book...
@Boooozle Жыл бұрын
Reason why Dany couldn’t see the iron fleet: “SHE FORGOT”...... many brain cells were lost at that moment
@AbyssViber10284 жыл бұрын
She might have vaguely heard about the Iron Fleet when the Sand Snakes and Yara were captured by them. She very likely did not know that upgraded, more advanced versions of the Scorpion anti-Dragon ballistae were installed on the ships of Euron's fleet. The harsh consequences of not having good intel. Perhaps Bran has only so much synaptic bandwidth and didn't have time to review those time files, particularly since he was preoccupied with events in Winterfell.
@AK-dd9od4 жыл бұрын
A K this would be true, except for the fact that the master of whispers TOLD her about it, and her advisors even convinced her to not launch a preemptive attack against the fleet, it’s just awful writing by D&D
@t.y29744 жыл бұрын
Mr. Benioff, or Weiss, or whatever you are, you forgot you were a writer.
@54markl4 жыл бұрын
What's awful is that everything else this season was amazing. The writing was the only aspect that was a disappointment. The acting, music, cinematography, visuals and action were all incredible, arguably the best of all the seasons. If it weren't for the bullshit writing this season would have been the best of them all, the velocity would have surpassed everything else in TV history.
@heyheyheyheyheyhey764 жыл бұрын
I’d rather they made the excuse, “Itvwas a surprise ambush.”
@rydermccall35904 жыл бұрын
*tyrion :* we should all be ruled by this creepy kid in wheelchair over there....bran the broken *literally everyone who isn't from the north :* who??
@cvox6075 жыл бұрын
C Vox yea that’s basically what happened and also you forgot they voted for him king even though they know nothing about him
@zoomynumie73445 жыл бұрын
He's Ned Stark's son, people know him
@Zorklis5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention about who the fuck tells all Westeros about Bran being the Three Eyes Raven and how did they know what does three eyes raven mean?
@lucianovargas4795 жыл бұрын
WHOMST?
@PittsburghSonido5 жыл бұрын
Someone who literally said “I can’t relate to people, I mostly live in the past now”
@VulturePilot5 жыл бұрын
The whole arya killing the night king upset me so much. Was hoping we would learn more about the night king
@MrMastermind790 Жыл бұрын
I don't like how the show turned into world war z it doesn't feel like game of thrones I think the white walkers should be more magical then swarming the world with zombies
@XxFayssalxX Жыл бұрын
"I'm sure in a few years, we'll get the real, official ending" Oh, you sweet summer child.
@Nyzer_7 ай бұрын
Brandon Stark: I'm not Brandon Stark anymore, I can never be lord of anything, I'm the three eye raven. Tyrion: hey Brandon Stark, wanna be king? Brandon Stark: Yes, being king is my destiny, I'm Brandon Stark, son of Ned Stark.
@roquiros68025 жыл бұрын
Don't forgot Samwell saying Jon is the only true king, and Bran himself confirming it
@hellowill5 жыл бұрын
@@hellowill Then Bran later has the audacity to say "why do you think I came all this way?" so instead of backing the true king you proclaimed earlier, his whole plan was to take the crown from Jon. What a joke
@djndrsn10804 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Jon, even though I'm usurping your throne, you will also go back to the Night's Watch... What the fuck. This season totally mind fucked me. I swear they shot it all different had it all ready and then some how all servers pcs IOS etc. Crashed and the the REAL season eight was lost for ever... Yeah in my dreams where Daenerys still desstroys Kingslanding, and I get to watch her sit the Iron Throne. 😖
@mattdiserio19244 жыл бұрын
@Kessroy He only sees the past, not the future. It made no sense for him to say that. The writers constantly did this thing where they asked themselves "whats the most quotably in-character thing this character could say right now?" and just did that no matter how out of place or ridiculous it was taken in larger context.
@joeking56794 жыл бұрын
@Kessroy i don't remember that, was that in the show? the only dreams i remember him having were nonsensical.
@joeking56794 жыл бұрын
HBO: you got 10 episodes to wrap this up D&D: 6 take it or leave it
@wonderthigh5 жыл бұрын
Ryan: man babies
@sirdesqwee37905 жыл бұрын
JRR Marting: For a good story, this should take somewhere between 10-12 seasons D&D: Nope, 7 it is HBO: DUDES! NO! NO! NO! Our money! D&D: Okay... 8. But take it or leave it. HBO: "... okay."
@MaJuV5 жыл бұрын
@@MaJuV 8 but the last 2 are pretty much half seasons
@stugeh5 жыл бұрын
HBO: No wait, guys, that's not how you haggle. See, I'm supposed to set a low number and you're supposed to set a high... D&D: Yes.
@Lupostehgreat5 жыл бұрын
@@Lupostehgreat Six for this, you must be mad!
@stevenkies8025 жыл бұрын
The fact that during table reads actors and other writers and producer's spoke up and gave different ideas and D&D just let their ego get in the way.
@tysonleblanc88625 ай бұрын
I thought when Danerys started incineration people was a foreshadowing of her being the mad queen.
@kurtdanielson91737 ай бұрын
Season 8 Its like doing your homework 5 minutes before class.
@user-em5ep9zw4z4 жыл бұрын
have you tried doing your homework in 30 seconds?
@Gorgun20104 жыл бұрын
Perfect 👍
@tommythenice67994 жыл бұрын
Seen some one else comment this good job
@Grammar_police4204 жыл бұрын
Bell inglese viterbese
@tommythenice67994 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!
@johnrobinson44454 жыл бұрын
Poor Emilia. Every interview she is just so clearly upset about how it ended
@collinwatts9390 Жыл бұрын
Out of all the characters her got destroyed and ruined the most. She played as Daenerys for what, 8 years ??? And thats how her character arc ends ?? She becomes Hitler and kills whole city of innocent people for no legit reason? I would be very upset too.
@LaxonPfc Жыл бұрын
Acting got better as the plot got worse each season
@user-ho9nu6ir7f Жыл бұрын
She deserved another season or extra episodes to do her justice but nope.
@roxtechs Жыл бұрын
@@roxtechs P
@juice_box108 Жыл бұрын
She deserved a better ending and kit did to
@sandrovoshart8127 Жыл бұрын
I think GRRM realized that D&D didn’t care about his vision, so he gave them a fake ending and waited for the show to finish so he could deviate. I think GRRM pulled off a great trick AND still got his cut. Man’s a genius
@shyguy4317 Жыл бұрын
Idk it’s weird to think the GRRM wanted the show to fail, he probably wanted it to succeed as much as anyone. However I’m sure he’s changed his plan after how bad the ending of the show was.
@maxm31149 ай бұрын
The adaptation went its own way years before the last season.
@threestars21647 ай бұрын
The turn for Cersai made sense. She was pushed to the point where she knew being subtle wasn't working so she decided to say f it. I think it was a good charcter development from her. Too bad they did nothing with her after
@bmaster461603 Жыл бұрын
I agree, the issue is basically nothing came from such a dramatic act. The people just kinda forgot they were cheering on a populist theocratic movment and hated Cersie. Many nobles got killed, the only effect was the Tyrrells switching side just to be easily destroyed in the next episode and forgotten too. Tommon dying should have affected Cersie alot more too, since she caused it
@Nathan-jh1hoАй бұрын
@@Nathan-jh1ho it's like they forgot about how big the city was and just made the city into some short of caricature of itself. Never going into any depth after she blew most of it up.
@bmaster461603Ай бұрын
Imagine if D&D had gone the mange/anime route and gave us a bunch of beach and hot springs episodes until books caught up
@HierophanticRose3 жыл бұрын
I'm not even sure that would be worse, actually. p.s. Manga don't do that since they don't have to wait for any books to catch up
@SchrollShepard3 жыл бұрын
@@SchrollShepard Yea thats what I meant with 'manga/anime' namely talking about the anime adaptations of manga
@HierophanticRose3 жыл бұрын
Weeb smh
@CalSprigley3 жыл бұрын
@@SchrollShepard untrue! A lot of Japanese light novels are adapted into manga while the LN is still running. An example of this is The Devil Is A Part-Timer. Not all anime originate from manga :)
@tessieract3 жыл бұрын
@@tessieract I never said all anime comes from manga, what are you talking about, friend? You're definitely right, but generally speaking a manga won't have anything to catch up to, because chances are it's the original source. Thanks for the correction, however.
@SchrollShepard3 жыл бұрын
Instead of Danny "kinda forgetting" the fleet they should have killed the dragon in the attack on Kings Landing, the literal next episode, and use it as a catalyst to her destroying the city. It's such a simple fix it's crazy no one thought about it.
@carwyn36915 жыл бұрын
Kishibe Rohan that’s exactly what I thought after watching episode 5. In Addition, they also should have killed missandei at the start of episode 5
@jolaude95785 жыл бұрын
Yes, that would have worked flawlessly! Don't know about the "mad ruler" thing, but it would have motivated the slaughter.
@gs78285 жыл бұрын
Even with the story they went with, all they had to do was put the ships there in the open. Dany sees them and flies in to torch them (because that was the plan all along) and once she is close they uncover the weapons that were hidden and shot the dragon down.
@andreashofmann45565 жыл бұрын
Are you the Real Rohan Kishibe?
@gaio92555 жыл бұрын
Kishibe Rohan they should have had the bells ring then Cersei blow up wildfire in the city killing Missandei and a hidden ballista kills rhaegal. But even then I only see her burning the RK.
@muthut10005 жыл бұрын
At one point when young Ned hears Bran and turns around and it cuts to the ravens face i honestly thought …. Did Bran just realise he may be able to influence the past if he can in somewhat interact with it ? Imagine the potential
@drake1289 ай бұрын
Aaaaaand an entire season of dick jokes is all we got. My imagination exploded after that episode and they couldn’t be bothered to use it for ANYTHING.
@DonnendetАй бұрын
I disagree on the Cersei thing, the Sparrows were a perfect foil for her because the high Sparrow couldnt be corrupted or manipulated through her regular tactics, that's why she had to blow them up, although it would've been more interesting to see her face more consequences as a result of such a bold move but i do think it makes sense why ahe would do it.
@coyotepeyote7 ай бұрын
The final season was so bad nobody talks about the show as a whole anymore, it looks like it never existed.
@Zecamilleo3 жыл бұрын
Except for us, still furiously obsessed cos of our collective storytelling blue balls.
@SockDrawerDemon3 жыл бұрын
i'll be watching got for the first time, what seasons should i only watch to avoid the bad writing?
@wihoemhae2 жыл бұрын
@@wihoemhae watch the first 4 seasons then drop it
@arismastro5052 жыл бұрын
@@wihoemhae i'd watch at least 1-6. Things does start to become suspicious after 4 but IMO it doesn't really go to shit until S7. 7 and 8 are just an absolute mess, ESPECIALLY season 8.
@tobiasvikr4722 жыл бұрын
@@wihoemhae I concur watch 1 to 6 Season 7 starts to go downhill and rushes many storylines yet is still 100x better than the utter train crash that is Season 8.
@danwhitaker51682 жыл бұрын
"A character is only as smart as its author"
@johandeboer97905 жыл бұрын
Got em
@efrainrodarte63955 жыл бұрын
GIGO
@jennifers.hancox85125 жыл бұрын
To solve a maze easily, work backwards, consider what outcome you or a character wants and their role in addition or subtraction to get a certain point, then work backwards and show that character making others think it was their idea. To show intelligence well, create an arbitration that all knows except the audiance, or show them doing what looks like nothing important. They rely on subverting audience expectations, even when expected.
@furyberserk5 жыл бұрын
@@furyberserk I absolutely hate that people think "subverting expectations" is good story writing. The show could have ended with Jon fingering Drogon, it'd certainly be unexpected but it wouldn't be good writing
@SkaterBlades5 жыл бұрын
@@furyberserk "Subverting Expectations" tends to ignore the expectation of what you're making isn't shit.
@ExecutionStyleInc5 жыл бұрын
Imagine _Game of Thrones_ as if you’re dining at an elegant restaurant. The appetizers are delectable-some of the best food you've ever tasted. The main course is second to none. You’re on cloud nine. Dessert arrives, expecting another hole in one, and it disappoints. No, it's not crummy. It's not on par with what was served before. Now comes the digestif, but instead of the after-dinner drinks, the manager walks up to you and randomly douses you in chocolate syrup.
@cance7984Ай бұрын
I'd put it in terms of eating the best food I've ever had. While eating the desert, I suddenly noticing the taste and texture is off, and see I've ate part of a dead cockroach with maggots in it. Proceeds to throw up the whole thing
@Nathan-jh1hoАй бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="819">13:39</a> Not to mention that the surrender bells directly contradicts one of the few good things that D&D wrote themselves all the way back in season 2 for the Battle of the Blackwater.
@attilathechunn9 ай бұрын
"We wanted to surprise the fans, so we Kinda killed the show." D&D
@mortezajazini54775 жыл бұрын
hbo killed the show, they forced dnd to fit to much into 1 season
@kosmo74115 жыл бұрын
@@beianli4620 OMG really??
@Meinus875 жыл бұрын
@@kosmo7411 _> they forced dnd to fit to much into 1 season_ Except even if this was true, there's plenty of wasted screen time. And this is no excuse for gross inconsistency anyway.
@Conserpov5 жыл бұрын
@@beianli4620 If only they had the same attitude towards Rome a couple of years ago.
@HermanvanGelder5 жыл бұрын
Creative_Plays hbo wanted at least 10 seasons (it was their golden goose), but D&D wanted to go and do new Star Wars saga, and were so hung up with themselves to let other team finish those seasons.
@acuredreamgift5 жыл бұрын
Season 7: I'm the worst GOT season ever. . Season 8: hold my Starbucks cup.
@edbrando34665 жыл бұрын
*hold my starbucks cup and water bottle. Season 7 wasn't that bad imho lol.
@DuskSkullin5 жыл бұрын
@@DuskSkullin and arya.
@edbrando34665 жыл бұрын
@@DuskSkullin But Season 7 episode 6 was soo stupid that it made the entire Season look dumb.
@sohandesai40555 жыл бұрын
hold my script
@ihx75 жыл бұрын
"And my bottle of water."
@kiyomihattori64605 жыл бұрын
3 years in I'm just gonna wait for Game of Thrones: Brotherhood
@ronelm2000 Жыл бұрын
This is such a good explanation. I laughed countess times with all the funny edits & comments! Good stuff here💯
@iMerkCODM8 ай бұрын
"Jon is sad that everybody is mad at eachother." Just sums up the season so well
@frederickp5 жыл бұрын
Yea, I giggled when he said that.
@tomaszchomicki97945 жыл бұрын
That kind of sums up John's character. My family is mad at each other :( Kings are fighting each other :( People are picking on my friend :( A man is hurting his kids :( Wildings hate me because the Watch loves me :( The Watch hates me because Wildlings love me :( Dragon Queen hates me because the North loves me :( North hates me because the Dragon Queen loves me :( blah blah blah, you get the idea. Such a whimpering little bitch.
@SpookeyClown5 жыл бұрын
yeah, I kek'd hard
@barka.extreme5 жыл бұрын
reason why Jon should have been king. Jon is better than everyone else cause he's just sad, not mad.
@colonelcider82925 жыл бұрын
@@colonelcider8292 But he's also not that bright:/ And has very little capable people on his side.
@jeckjeck31195 жыл бұрын
"Sansa is mad at Daenerys because she didn't like her, Daenerys is mad at everybody, JON IS JUST SAD BECAUSE EVERYONE IS MAD AT EACH OTHER" This was a typical quote hahahahaha
@dardangashi84534 жыл бұрын
@Dardan Gashi Yeah Poor punkass Jon played and used by everybody and never fitted in anywhere.
@nubiannile46064 жыл бұрын
Sansa in season 7 and 8 was just a stubborn bitch who was sulky every time things didn't go the way she wanted them to and she was a total pain in the a**.
@Nina-kx9jm4 жыл бұрын
Xerafi sure Sansa wasn’t the best at times in 7&8, however Daenerys was that x10, she took any chance she could to bitch and moan, it’s all she’s ever done and it was unbearable in 7&8, at least Sansa had some genuine reasons to bitch like resting soldiers after battling the literal reincarnation of death
@oelaty91164 жыл бұрын
@@oelaty9116you can't be serious rn? Sansa is the one who bitches and moans 24/7 over dumb shit dany only bitches when Jon didn't bend the knee for literally 2.5s after that she got over it and faced the real threat head on, Sansa is the one constantly bitching especially about Daenerys who has done nothing but help the north
@lum1st4 жыл бұрын
Lumist 10/10 comment. You’re totally right.
@mrrick193794 жыл бұрын
I know this wouldn't apply for absolutely everything but good writing is definitely one of the most important parts for a lot of TV shows games and whatever else you can think of. Two games that always come to my mind are the elder scrolls oblivion and knights of the old Republic,the graphics and the combat and a lot of other mechanics in these games haven't really aged that well,but they are still considered some of the best games of all time even today because they have good writing. A lot of people still enjoy playing these games me included.
@thegamingninja3578 Жыл бұрын
Imagine for just a moment if bran warged back in time, and the whole "burn them all" thing was the mad king experiencing his own hodor moment. Imagine if that somehow connected jaime and the mad king and completed his redemption arc. So. Much. Wasted. Potential.
@onebrushstrokebetter65457 ай бұрын
Never even watched this show but YOU KNOW I'm here for some angry Marcus rants
@logariuswheels52445 жыл бұрын
Same!
@PasserMontanus5 жыл бұрын
Same here 😆
@kingesom79065 жыл бұрын
I watched the first season and I thought it was Good But I had a feeling the show would only get dumb From there
@Flip-a-dip-dip5 жыл бұрын
Same
@huntercorrales67945 жыл бұрын
Same!!!! Hahaha I'm not a Potter person either, but I loved his Grindlewald review!
@KeishenLloyd5 жыл бұрын
This is the show that gave non-anime/manga people a taste of what it feels like to watch a Anime that had to split from the manga halfway through because it wasn't finished yet.
@wubwubdododo56565 жыл бұрын
to be honest Full Metal Alchemist was not as bad as this! they also knew when and how to end it in a quick and timely manner, but i feel you. One Anime that nailed this concept was Gintama where they spent half a season going back and covering missed Gag arcs/chapters. The anime crew called it the Split Arc as it changed directions from the main plot. however, Gintama got lucky since they Mangaka Sorachi provided these comedy chapters.
@Ebrahim_175 жыл бұрын
Maybe watch videos before commenting.. He said that exact thing at the beginning of this video...
@trod1465 жыл бұрын
Maybe D&D should have taken notes from the staff of FMA 2003, they had even less to work with and made it even better than mangahood.
@Ouchthathurt8435 жыл бұрын
@Rando don't forget the original Hellsing anime too. That one went South real quick.
@sebastiancintron295 жыл бұрын
@@sweetyfri That's why I hardly watch anime now, and read a lot of manga, and even Light Novels. Everytime they announce a new adaptation, I quickly take a grasp of the source, get hooked, and when the anime is aired, I completly pass it, because I hate "original endings". Same will happen to me in the upcoming Wheel of Time series, and some other fantasy adaptations. I will keep the good memories of the books, instead of reliving this bitter experience, and wasting years of my time.
@radamanthium5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful summary - couldn't agree more. Another thought about Jon Snow - I would rather have seen more power in learning his real identity as the true male heir to the throne and Denarys stepping aside because of that truth, regardless of her wanting to 'break the wheel'. Everyone but she and Tyrion wanted him to lead, so I would like to have seen him set aside his claim of 'not wanting it', the same way he accepted to be Commander of the Night's Watch. I agreed with Denarys' death at Jon's hand because it avoided more war but then to not automatically be King and especially become a prisoner of the Dothraki was my greatest disappointment. It erased everything his mother and Eddard Stark had done to keep him alive. It negated everything he had done to fight the undead and gave no purpose to his resurrection. Maybe I wanted more of a Return Of The King event like with Aragorn's story in LOTR. By ignoring him like this, rather than a 'better world for everyone', we were left with a dull ordinary world; Bran and Sansa ruling and the Small Council discussing routine city government affairs. We watch these shows to be entertained and that's not entertaining. Eight years and to close like this? Yawn. After watching the behind the scenes features of the last season, I think everyone just got tired of producing the show for so long and ran out of gas. They didn't have anything left so they just threw together an easy ending to be done with it all.
@peterhuber17024 ай бұрын
if you are reading comments sorted by newest first, i just wanna remind you "a dance with dragons" came out 12 years ago. even in 12 years gorge couldnt finish the 6th book
@ishmamyousuf25954 ай бұрын
The "I never really cared for the people" line is where i gave up completely
@RSSMonster4 жыл бұрын
Right?! Protecting the f*cking innocents was his whole f*cking deal!!
@XescoPicas4 жыл бұрын
I knew that this show was dead back in season 7. When John Snow and his merry men go north of the wall to try and find the white walkers to bring one of the dead back. That was absolutely terrible
@patwaddington4 жыл бұрын
Me too. I was like "what f is this" it felt as Cersei bewitched Jaime with her vagina.
@CocoBanaka3 жыл бұрын
Made me wanna throw my whole tv away. Just throw it all away. Fkn D&D... 🤬
@Thetruthiscosmic3 жыл бұрын
pat waddington finally!!! Someone that agrees?
@devoringdemonsoulq90863 жыл бұрын
dude that 35 minutes was more satisfying than the last season of GOT
@ameliaweresmintgreen4 жыл бұрын
I litteraly didn't want the video to end
@shanalyse.4 жыл бұрын
I am watching at 4 am and thought I am seeing a 10 minute video, until I saw your comment. 😂
@akashsky94314 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree, I couldn't agree anymore. The hole last season left a wierd feeling in me, an empty space, that literally shouts for itself to be filled.
@richardkonyves65004 жыл бұрын
I don't want to agree with that, but I feel like I do. However, I think the commentary in this video is a bit too critical.
@thisaccountsucks55564 жыл бұрын
fuck yes
@durmoth70274 жыл бұрын
My version of GoT season finale Cersei sent bron and his group not to help defend winterfell but to assassinate Danerys, Sansa or Jon Snow while being distracted preparing to defend winterfell against the Night king. Bron and cersei plan to poison them. Jaime was surprised that Bron came to winterfell, suspected him and prevented the assassination because he knows the poison he gave to olenna which is same poison Bron brought. Bron and his group did not get a chance to kill dany instead they try and resort to sneak(surprise attack) jon and sansa in a secluded dark place but brienne protected the starks (brienne vs bron epic fight). Jaime saw this and was torn but he saw brienne and jon being outnumbered so he protected brienne. Bron killed Brienne while protecting the starks(character arc complete). Jaime backstabbed Bron and died. Jaime held Brienne's dead body suspecting Cersei is the mastermind. Tyrion is looking Bron's dead body. Bron lived by the sword and died by the sword he paid the price for being greedy(character arc complete). They failed to defend winterfell. They lost another dragon. The night king won and got winterfell. Meanwhile weeks before the start of the battle/defense of winterfell, Arya went back to south (kingslanding) wearing meryn trant face infiltrating Cercei's room, operating in the shadows(not fighting in the frontline with plot armor) and killed Cersei in a surprising fashion(the faceless assassin's way). Arya's last words to Cersei while stabbing her and before beheading her "I am Arya Stark. Look at me. This is the last face you'll see before you die." (Character arc complete) mirroring to Cersei's words to Septa Unella when she was imprisoned by the High Sparrow. Qyburn suspected meryn trant so he and the mountain went to Cersei's room only to find her head separated from her body. Cersei character arc mirrors Arya Stark's as Tywin once said to Arya in Harrenhal "You remind me of my daughter". Cersei and Arya are not your typical princess. If they are hurt or if their loveones hurt, like a wild lion or wild lone wolf, they will bite back and bite harder. Vengeance is what keeps them going. After they lost winterfell to the night king, Jaime came back to Kings Landing to confront Cersei if she sent Bron to assassinate the starks and dany which lead to Brienne's death and Bron's death only to find Cersei's dead decapitated body. Jaime is looking Cersei's face the way he looks Cersei in season 6x10 when she claimed the iron throne after tommen suicide. Jaime's felt empty after Cersei's brutal death. "No one" knows who killed Cersei. Season 8 episode 9 is when the Night King attacks Kings Landing. Bran will use all his ability to help Jon and Dany. Bran told them that the NK cannot be killed by fire, valyrian steel or dragonglass alone. It will be 3vs1 (Dany, Jon and Bran vs Night king). Bran told them that the NK can be killed by a Targaryen blood only with a sword blessed by melissandri's fire. They made a plan to close the distance between the NK and Jon who has the chance to win a swordfight against the NK. Dany will die sacrificing herself to give Jon and Bran the upperhand against the night king. Flashes back before her eyes all the good memories she had in essos (Khal Drogo, her child and everyone loyal to her). The north and westeros will appreciate Dany's sacrifice. She cleaned the reputation of the Targaryen house after the Mad king. She is not like her father and she proved it by sacrificing her 2 dragons and her soldiers and herself. (Character arc complete) Dany will have a statue in KingsLanding as a hero who save Westeros. Meanwhile Jaime Lannister helped rebuild all the castles destroyed by the NK including winterfell and castle black. (Character arc complete)
@syndren4377 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if anyone already brought this up but FMA deviating from the manga was not because it ran out of source material - the original author didn't want the same story to be told twice. She allowed the anime studio to create their own material in the latter half and quite liked what they came up with. Otherwise though yeah after just finishing GoT recently, this is completely spot-on.
@kotetsu8742 Жыл бұрын
Author said the Homunculi in FMA were just so much better than anything she wrote (she's right: Brotherhood's main problem was the Homunculi were just video game bosses for ed/al etc to punch). The 1st series problem was they had IMO the idea for a great ending (actions have concequences, and/or getting involved in a war sometimes even when you win the war you lose what you signed up to fight for in the 1st place). Then the series blew up and someone told them no, don't stop at S2, make a movie, then another movie, then we'll do a season 3. Oh did I say season 3, uh writing is expensive and the magna is now finished, do that.
@rook11965 ай бұрын
I still greatly appreciate Kit for being so honest in the interview. Many of his cast mates were afraid to speak their minds.
@Round_Slinger2 жыл бұрын
Most who didn't spoke their minds were not MAIN protagonists, they have to be moderate until it's their time to speak. That can end a career.
@JoeyAGamer2 жыл бұрын
I regret to inform you that I’m pretty sure that was edited 😅
@dysmissme73432 жыл бұрын
@@dysmissme7343 it wasnt. google the real interview and u see the interviewrs reaction and he tries to save it by saying it is also epic.
@mashedpotato44652 жыл бұрын
@@JoeyAGamer Dany was a main character but she was too afraid to be honest. You can check her interview, the way she said "Best season ever" proves she was afraid. I appreciate Kit for his honesty.
@tvdforever51472 жыл бұрын
@@mashedpotato4465 yeah remembering those interviews now they knew the ending was shit
@shuturmouthkeeptlkn93842 жыл бұрын
"She's the most boring character to follow." Me: "laughs in Bran."
@dickcheesemcgee69783 жыл бұрын
I was actually offended by Tyrion saying Bran should be king because he had the best story. Myself and a large chunk of the fandom had been complaining for years that his story was the worst. In the show, anyway. It's slightly better in the books. Still not great though. Interesting how he ate Jojen, but not all that interesting.
@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human3 жыл бұрын
Daenerys and Brans chapters are really fun and interesting to follow in my opinion. I LOVE Brans chapters, we really get a new view of the magic side of the world and in Daenerys chapters you learn more about the culture and politics of Essos and there are DRAGONS! What more can you ask for.
@osmya00443 жыл бұрын
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human How are his chapters not interesting???
@osmya00443 жыл бұрын
I’ve only read the first book so far but bran is really interesting imo
@glctcthnkr80593 жыл бұрын
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human Imo brans story was good until after theon came and he left and then it went to shit. The only thing good is the Hodor arc and Aegon Targaryen reveal. I think they went by really well tbh. After Brans story got even worse lmao he really had so much potential. I always thought he'd become a badass like what Aryas meant to be. I'd love to see him use his powers properly and same with Arya.
@OminousBlast3 жыл бұрын
I think Cersei bombing that church makes sense. In the books we know shes planning something with wildfire, and getting revenge for the walk of shame totally tracks. She's the world most vain narcissist, and lashing back with extreme actions against anyone who challenges her public image like that? It fits.
@nts3208Ай бұрын
the fact that Dany lost a dragon fighting with the Night King was not enough for her TO NOT FORGET THE FLEET, i mean they ruined the character cuz she loved her dragons. Also there was little remorse on dragons death she just moved on, THATS TOTALLY NOT DANY. Another thing they ruined about her character was her compassion and love for people, at the end she just went like a madman totally not like her. Her whole point of taking the Seven Kingdoms was to achieve this purpose and the end she was hanging around begging Jon to not tell anyone cuz she JUST WANTED THE THRONE. THAT WAS NOT HERRRR AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!
And now its like GoT never existed. A massive cultural influence vanished into thin air. What a bad ending can do to a show is truly astonishing
Influence?
Not for those of us who enjoyed it. I loved every minute of it.
@@Thomas-kj1fk Well, but most of the viewers hated it
this. No one talks about it. No one cares. Its truly amazing how you can kill one of the most influential shows in the history of tv with 6 episodes.
This show used to be referenced CONSTANTLY, it was almost as quotable as Star Wars and Lord of the Rings. Now nobody references it anymore. You’d think if the show ended on good or at least decent terms, people would still reference and joke about it. Literally the only time you hear people talking about Game of Thrones now is when they’re talking about how badly the ending of that show was fucked up
Arya went west, Jon went north, Drogon went east and the show went south
HAHA I actually spat my tea out 😂
Somebody already posted this before you somewhere.
@@ajanaya8055 yeah on r/freefolk
Jon shoulda just gone down on Dany and all woulda gone well
I’ve never seen this before but I’m almost positive you’re not clever enough for it . Probably stole it from Reddit
Love how dragons can understand symbolism but can’t see hundreds of pirate ships with massive dragon killing crossbows mounted in the front
We got a good meme out of it though. Stupid pointy chair!!!!
Dragons have better media literacy than vision
Exactly like wtf were they just hiding behind the island and all of a sudden SUPRISE!
Ballistae
That moment when the dragon sees it's dead mother and the man that killed her but poignantly understands that the throne was the catalyst behind the thirst for power which drove the destiny of it's characters in the most profound manner ROAR
My biggest issue is the fact that Arya can literally impersonate anyone, so when she and Sansa successfully plot to kill Littlefinger (the only person who played all sides), they didn’t take his face. She could have easily impersonated Littlefinger, sneak into the Red Keep, kill Cersei for Dany in exchange for the north’s liberation and everything would have been fine.
Arya only face change other body cant
Sounds just like riding the eagles in LoTR
@@he.236 rly? it doesnt stop her to "be" Walder Frey
imagine if that happened and Arya encountered Jaime (who already escaped to be with Cersei) and they dueled, would be much better than the euron Vs Jaime crap
🤣😂 you and all those 873 likes are retards!! you guys miss all the details. how the hell would Littlefinger sneak into the red keeps when he is public enemy. you retards forgot he declared partners with house stark back in season ^ episode 10. yall all retards
If you think about it, this show ended in the most Game of Thrones way possible. But instead of killing off a bunch of well loved characters it killed off the whole fanbase.
@curio honestly, I have rewatched it a few times and I just skipped the last 2 seasons no problem. The shittiness of Seasons 7 and 8 don't diminish the incredible things from the first 6 seasons for me
Lol!! Sooo well said!!! I don’t even freaking care about their prequel now. I refuse to watch it.
@@techeepeach9272 why as the guy above just said the first 6 seasons where still incredible im sure they can do it again in the prequal
I still think Disney coming to Benioff and Weiss and pitching them the Star Wars trilogy was what started it. Disney execs wanted Game of Thrones to be toast, and what better way then to manipulate the creators into fucking it over.
'shocked weebay meme' seriously tho spittin straight facts
Bran did nothing for a whole season? Bran did nothing for the entire show.
The only thing he did was seeing jamie fucking his sister to start the conflict between stark and lanistar. But it was jaime who throwed bran out of the window. So dissapointing
@@lordofcastamere9376 so, he could have died after the first episode and nothing important would have changed...
Worst character in the entire show
Dude this was the BEST SEASON ever! How can you disrespect a character like that?! What do you mean by Bran did nothing? He sat and flew crows hey! -_-
@Lizzy Swan Great character development exactly! Finally someone who understands! Bran falls out of the window learns how to turn his eyes white, gets Summer and Hodor killed, again flies crows, looks emotionless etc etc. He has the greatest story of all. All hail Bran the Broken🙌🙌
Littlefinger’s death probably angered me the most. The fact he got outsmarted that easily despite how well established it was how smart he was was infuriating. How the hell did I figure out Sansa and Arya were plotting to kill him but he didn’t?
My best explanation would be that he severely underestimated Sansa but that makes no sense considering he literally tells her not to underestimate people and be surprised
Littlefinger died by the hands of bad writing poor fans
@@Hogsmeat same with the night king
Disclaimer: Im a bit late to the party so I got to binge watch the entire thing (thank god or i would have probably burnt my eyes out if I was hit by season 8 straight out of the oven) tbh i just accepted the show ended in season 4, the other seasons are just parodies. I remember just powering through season 5-8 like its some kind of tedious chore, I was hate watching at that point. I remember watching season 1-4 in like 2 days, short sleeps, and even in my dreams the show was playing, I got so invested that i triggered a lucid dream where i was overseeing GOT interact, AND THEY WERE IN CHARACTER LMAOOO, ENGLISH AINT EVEN MY MOTHER TONGUE yet I can remember tyrion and ned having a playful banter in my dream, the setting was apt as well. GOT is the best show I ever watched so seeing it deteriorate slowly from season 5 onwards led me accumulating enough dread in my soul to lose faith in tv shows. I was not into tv shows back then so GOT was a painful start.
Actually there's a deleted scene of Bran telling his sisters about his scheme and wants to tear them apart and I can't believe that they didn't show that scene so it would more make sense! I can't believe that Littlefinger is stupid enough to send Sansa back to Winterfell when The Boltons who killed his childhood crush, Caitlyn who's also Sansa's mom in Red Wedding! And he's assumed Ramsay is a good boy to take care of Sansa? Look at that guy's face! That doesn't look like a guy who can be trusted. Fucking really? Even Book Littlefinger is smart enough to hide Sansa by making her as his alleged bastard daughter. If you're really love Caitlyn very much, why did you do that? And Littlefinger's story arc for the last 3 seasons is becoming Sansa's Pedophile Simp! Are you fucking kidding me?
The thing that makes me so angry about this show is how pointless and useless everything surrounding John Snow turned out to be. John IS the song of Ice and Fire. He is the child of Lyanna Stark (Ice) and Rheagar Targaryen (Fire). The entire story is built upon his secret lineage, the fact that he is the true heir to the Iron throne by a legitimate but secret marriage. This reveal should have been MASSIVE. His ability to ride a dragon should have been a monumental scene, similar to the type of scene that Dany was given. The revelation of his lineage was THE revelation of the show, he has a higher claim than even Dany - but it was diminished significantly. The prophecies, him being brought back to life, The Prince That Was Promised - this all goes absolutely nowhere, and had no purpose whatsoever in his destiny. And the final nail in the coffin is that John returns to the fucking wall like the nobody bastard he started as. Everything about his arc amounts to NOTHING. What a trash ending. An ending so bad it managed to undo the entire legacy of what would have been the greatest show of all time.
oh and he went back to a wall that was there to prevent the walkers from going south, now that there's no more walkers wtf do they need the wall or people to watch it?? it has a massive hole in it and it was created with magic, so they couldn't make it again and why would they if there's no more zombie?? all the wildlong were already south. nothing makes sense nothingggg
Absolutely, at least have him lead the white walkers like Aragorn did for the dead and then have them battle it put with Daenarys and the dragons. Then it would be a TRUE song of ice and fire.
But the strong career waman must be higher to screw up the culture even more.
Targaryens lost their right to the Throne with Baratheon’s Rebellion.
@@mirziyobwasn’t he sent to the wall for his vein of killing danny by the unsullied
Tyrion: "Bran, you should be king". Bran: "I can't be king". Tyrion: "But you must be king". Bran: "K" Bran: "Tyrion, you will be hand". Tyrion: "I can't be hand". Bran: "But you must be hand". Tyrion: "K"
😂😂😂
POOPY
😂😂
Pure gold.
You sir won the internet
Jon being a Targaryen had no impact on the story really
Absolutely. Except making everyone uncomfortable with the incest
MilkPudding even tho nobody really had a problem with the incest yet it was used as an excuse to create drama
Night King had no impact on the story either. He was literally there only to make Dany´s army weaker so she can use that as an argument in the fight with Jon. The funniest thing ever that they did not even continue with the whole "i lost my army" considering the fact that she had them again in the KL.
It lets him stealth past Drogon lmao
had ahuge impact on dany's decision to destroy King's Landing and her choice to rule through fear instead of love.
I remember watching the first season when Ned got his head yoinked I actually gasped in disbelief, and had to watch it like 3 more times to be sure that REALLY happened. I was firmly convinced that Ned was THE hero of the story, but then he unceremoniously dies in the very first season. It was unbelievable, I had never seen something like that. It's a fantasy story where recklessness and stupidity gets you punished real bad, real fast. Fast forward some 6 seasons and all the "plot twists" in the show just seemed to be there for plot twists' sake. All the recklessness gets rewarded, specially from the main characters, and all stupidity gets a bypass. Nothing really surprised me and made me gasp as I did when watching Ned's death, or when reading the Red Wedding scene, or even the death of Lady, Sansa's direwolf in the very second episode.
Ugh when Sansa’s direwolf was killed I was a mess
The story also became very predictable after season 4.
sansa's direwolf being killed established extremely early on what was supposed to be a recurring theme through the story - the world isn't fair. things don't just work out the way you want because you want them to work out that way. kick and scream and beg and plead all you want, this world will extract its toll, no matter how wrong you think it is. it sort of gave you that "no, that can't happen that way, that doesn't even make any sense i'm sure they'll just figure it out" type of feeling and then NOPE, lady was dead and that was that, get over it because what you want or what you feel is right or justified are irrelevant in this story
The show and books actually went way too far in the other direction, into nihilistic territory. In reality most kingdoms did not function like Westeros and a character like Ned very often was loved by all and lived to an old age.
@@sercastamere9853 i think if you look deeper you may find that this a story of "what if the true heroes of our time (rhaegar, nedd, oberyn, etc) were killed before they had their chance to fix things, and this is all we're left with
It's also so infuriating how they managed Tyrion. He once was the smartest, wittiest character only rivaled by Varys and Petys and still he always had the edge. He was such an amazing character because despite being an "imp", the unwanted son and a villain in many peoples eyes, he was still a kind mand who was always a hindred steps ahead. But then, as soon as he starts counseling for Daenerys, all of a sudden EVERY SINGLE one of his plans, fail. And the perfectionist Queen who doesn't tolerate those kinds of mistakes decides to keep him even after he fucked up like 5 times in a row. Tyrion from the book would've conquered the world the moment he met Daenerys, but they just hard nerfed him.
I love Emilia Clarke for that interview. “Best season ever” *cringe face* 😂
Big props to Nathalie Emmanuel keeping it completely straight faced knowing she wants a career after this
yeah they were just taking the piss at this point.
Not as good as Peter Dinklage's "A sniper is pointing a gun to my head, please help"-face, when he was obligated to praise D&D for their 'skill'.
Jacob I feel so bad for her.
I may hate Dany, but i love Emilia Clarke so much, she's a national treasure, a gift to humanity
The real problem is that as a writer it's impossible to write characters that are smarter than you are.
I feel this cuz one character in my book im writing is suppose to be the smartest person in the world but im just a stupid high school kid so writing is kind of hard
This is a very underrated comment.
@@yodelingshrimp8316 Have you ever watch death note? I hear it's a great anime, I'm not saying fashion your character off of it but it should at least help.
@@omnianimator8468 ya i need to finish it and i get what you mean
@Cthulhu All-Spark ill keep that in mind. thx
Just stopped by in 2024 to be pissed again. Bravo.
yeah we will never fully recover from this lol
@@Katzenkaiser4 yup. I told everyone who would listen that it was the best television show ever made... and it wasn't even close. That was somewhere in season 5....ha.
What if they redo season 8 and then go all the way up to season 10? Sounds good but highly unlikely to happen.
@@Infiltrator_it´s time to move on brother. the only hope left is martin finishing the damn books
@@Katzenkaiser4which will happen when the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When the seas go dry and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves
I’ve liked Brienne all throughout the show. I’m barely ok with her falling in love with Jamie, but her breaking down into tears when he rode away and refusing to do anything about it was terrible. Especially after only spending like 2 days romantically involved with him.
Disagree. She spent literally years doubting this man. Her walls fall slowly and when she finally really lets him in he leaves. Her not being emotional about that would’ve been weird af
@@jakecollin5499 Crying is obviously ok, but Brienne just standing there not saying anything after Jamie characterised himself as the worst person alive is not. He showed her and others compassion. She cared for him. Character development thrown into the trash can within 2 minutes.
@@albatross7075um or maybe that’s just what he ended up being like in the end? no “character development”
Yeah i'm never going to get the disappointment people have with Tough Iconoclastic Upright Rebel Lady Figure having layers of complexity to her that might make her cry over a dude.
@@thedacardea416 yeah I’ve kinda softened on this scene over time, my main problem now is her not doing anything after the betrayal except making sure he’s remembered fondly
D&D didn't just kill the show, they killed its rewatchability. If the show had lived up to the hype until the very ending, it would've become a timeless classic. But thanks to D&D, rewatching it, knowing how it ends, will never be worth it.
Can confirm... I was ok with the battle; except arya killing the night king when that was JOHN'S story. But killing the dragon out of NOWHERE? Now jamie? And now missandei. I just cannot. When they cut the scene right before Bran tells arya and sansa about Jon... This is the hottest pile of fucking garbage I've seen and I regret rewatching the show. Its just shit scene after shit scene, after shit scene. There's no moment of sweetness, satisfaction. If you're thinking of rewatching it... don't.
@@Ava-ns4go I rewatch it, then I stop at about season 8, episode 2 and then make up my own ending in my head.
Not only that. They kind of ruined the book ending as well, as if the ending is the same, there is no surprise :(
D&D didn't make the series "jump the shark", because that phrase implies pushing an established plot structure too far. They simply didn't give a fuck, They ignored established plot structures (or didn't understand them), and so blithely wiped out seasons-long arches, as well as all seven seasons of previous, detailed plot development. They weren't interested, and and they didn't even bother pretending they were. It's still *so* frustrating. It feels like spending seven years investing in a special, beloved pet project, then at the last minute having some disinterested expert come in, take control, drop a massive, steaming dump on it, and walk away.
Truth. I wanted to rewatch to see the early seasons, but then I got mad that the end sucked and I just didn't bother, lol.
"the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives" and then all the Starks go solo, are totally alone and separated from one another.
That right there is why I think the whole ending leans way, WAY too hard on the 'bitter' part of bittersweet. Other than minor characters like Bronn or Podrick, the only endings that appear mostly happy are those of the Starks, and specifically Arya and Sansa. But Arya is leaving her family again even though that was the WHOLE point of her storyline in Braavos ("A girl is Arya Stark of Winterfell, and I'm going home"). And Sansa is Queen in the North (which I'll be honest is the only part of the finale that didn't totally piss me off), but she's ruling alone. There are **ZERO** other named characters in the shot with her. Not even Brienne, who was *sworn to Sansa by Catelyn*. But no, she's at the Small Council, I guess because the optics of an all-male council after Cersei and Dany both got the Mad Queen treatment would be bad.
Not trying to defend the show (specially as a book reader and Dorne fan), but you've cut the beginning and it IS important. "When winter comes and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives." Winter came and apparently (for the show?) went away, and during this event, the pack was together. After that, it wasn't much needed anymore. However, not even going on about how Winter should last years and years (because there is this doubt about winter - "does winter bring the white walkers, or do they make winter come?"), but there is a lot of symbolism in ASOIAF/GOT about characters and their house sigils. Much like a wolf, Ned Stark was loyal to the only woman he had in his life officially, but the loyalty to his own blood made him lie about it and keep this secret for the rest of his life. Much like wolves, the Starks work better when they're together and in the North, their home. When they get separated, even though it's not Winter yet, things go terribly wrong. If they had stayed in the North together and Ned refused being Hand, none of them would have to die. In fact, the North would have Ned, Robb etc to lead them to the war against the White Walkers. Separating the pack after they tried to hard to go back home and stick together just seems.... wrong. Arya fought so hard to go back to her home, but she just leaves and promises to not come back. Bran isn't even Bran anymore, the little kid who constantly defied rules just to try and see his home and his father again in visions - nothing. Jon - yeah, he was never really a Stark, but Winterfell was his home and he was so ready to break his vows and fight besides Robb for it. He had the North AND the Stark blood in him, but I guess he had no choice over his own ending bc the show didn't know what to do with him after shitting on the idea of him being a protagonist because fuck logic, we want to subvert expectations!!! Sansa is the only one who actually stood by the North and her home, and being honest - she never even liked it as a kid. She was never too close to her brothers anyways. She was constantly shown as more of a trout than a wolf, and Lady dying so early set the tone for it, but I can kinda accept the show's choices since they gave her Jeyne Poole's arc. Idk man, this whole symbolism just got thrown in the dumpster and it makes me sad too.
But the pack can't survive anyways, there will never have others Starks because there is no male Stark who can father children.
@@aevenstar100 spit the truth ,my friend
They go their own ways until they all come back together in season 8. And the Starks survive.
"I don't even feel like I watched the ending of this show, it was so unsatisfying." This is exactly how I feel, I still can't even accept what we got as an ending. There was no closure or satisfaction at all and it was so unbelievably insulting to the viewers intelligence.
It is such a shame that this show was gonna go down as the greatest television show ever made, but now it's the biggest joke and biggest disappointment in television history.
1,000%. Will be studied on how not to conclude a good series. Completely killed the fandom. Conventions for Harry Potter, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings exist decades later. Zero for GoT.
True. It was starting to surpass Breaking Bad for me, and then… no. Went from a 10/10 to an 8 or 9, and I often forget about it when I discuss my favorite shows.
Everyone: "what was the point of the white walkers in the show?" ... D&D: "we kind of forgot the white walkers were in the show."
What was the point of R+L=J? That was the center of a main plot and he ends up back in the stupid North? He didn’t even get to kill the Knight King and return to the North. What was the point of Bran (Until we could flashback and see Jon’s parentage), his story is the WORST. Jon AND Sam have better stories than Bran, and everyone else actually. Damn, Davos has a better story.
So apparently, they should have ended the series at episode 3 of Season 8, in order to preserve the importance and centrality of the Night King to the story? That would have solved that problem, right?
@@stephaniefromvirginia8744 What was the point of the Golden Company? All the gold looted from High Garden was used to pay for them. Now there's an investment that went up in smoke.
@@stephaniefromvirginia8744 The fucking direwolves have a better story than bran.
D&D: We thought we were writing Harry Potter and a good plot didn’t matter. Imagine our surprise in Season Eight when we finally realized we were writing Game of Thrones. It was like, Hey wait, Game of What?
In every interview about season 8, the cast looks like they're being held hostage
Tara Jones leading up to season 7 I remember almost every cast member was saying best season to date. Not One cast member said this about s8 except Emilia in a sarcastic way.
That one Peter Dinklage interview was hard to watch. It was so awkward and obvious he didn't mean what he was saying
@@jjgen736 I think she was speaking from the viewpoint of her character. Same with the other actors who said it was disappointing. I could be wrong but actors don't usually shit talk things they're in. It's just bad business ethics, especially before something is released
@Cherry Muse There were HBO snipers aiming at his head. It is known.
I really enjoyed this last season. Now I know why it was terrible and awful. But I enjoyed it nonetheless.
It's crazy how Winterfell refused to join the Seven Kingdoms when a frickin' Stark sat on the throne.
And the Iron Islands didn't make a point of declaring independence.
Why do any of the other kingdoms bother? The targ dynasty (the rightful heirs to the iron throne, even Bobby B had to find he was related in order to have a claim) is gone. Nothing is keeping them from all dissolving into divided countries proper again
@@redbloodcell4047neither does Dorne who fought the longest for independence
It's crazy how they were granted independence by the first Stark king and everyone was fine and didn't instantly get mad at this extremely preferential treatment. Like damn we got a Stark king and the first thing he does is kiss the ass of the north at the cost of everyone else
When I heard that the writers caught up to books I was like “Oh I’m sure it’ll still be fine, they’ve been writing these characters for ages” then I watched one episode and I felt all positivity drain out of me across that one episode and I just stopped. My mum and dad continued and after the last episode of the series my mum was livid and dad wouldn’t even let me ask, just immediately shut me down when I asked “what was so bad”. That’s how I found out just how bad it was
Book readers have the worst take about any show based on a book.
@@dustinjackson3318 yep, that's TOTALLY what happened there. Lol such a goofy ass hOt TaKe 🤪
@@dustinjackson3318Reader here. I read the books all together after seeing the show. And I think it was worse for me, than for those who read them when they came out. Aside from characters not appearing on the show, and unless Martin changes everything he's previously written, the story is going in a completely different direction.
7 years: Winter is coming 5 seconds: *Winter left the chat*
After season 8: SPRING HAS COME!
*Winter is going home to Rethink its Life.*
@@JackRendar Winter: "Screw you guys, I'm going home."
Winter was coming Winter Came Winter saw it was not okay Winter said : NOT TODAY
winter picked up his ball and said screw you guys im going home
I'm convinced Dany only burned down the city because they thought it would look cool
To be fair it looked really fuckin cool.
@@eonsislept207 it did look cool But without a real reason
Yep!
they went with the "rule of cool" from pen&papers...... and rolled a nat20
Most of the things that happened... happened because the writers thought it would look cool.
I heard of an story that at season 7 George told the show runners they needed at least 12 seasons in total to do the Song of Ice and Fire properly. But D&D swore they could do it in 8, and well, we see how that ended up. I didn’t watch the show but I remember all the insane disappointment from friends. I’m currently reading the series though
As disappointing as the last two seasons were, I would highly recommend watching the show once you’ve finished the books. It really is some of the best television to ever exist. Also, if you haven’t already, I’d also recommend reading Fire & Blood and then watching House of the Dragon. Ooh and then read A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms with Dunk and Egg! Also, A World of Fire and Ice is an amazing companion book! The amount of detail GRR Martin puts into his world building is mind boggling!
Pretty sure Dumb and dumber actually wanted to do 7 seasons but HBO was like come on bruh you can do 8 and then they said we will do 13 episodes and no more and HBO said okay if that’s what will be needed. They just wanted it to be over. Honestly I think it would have been better if they just fully got there way. Kinda think they knew what they did was bad but just didn’t care
Wow be prepared to greater disappointment because storylines are really not finished to this day with no book release in sight.
You could consider Grey Worm/The Unsullied as a whole other character arc/plot that screwed up the ending; they occupied Kings Landing, held Jon as prisoner for killing their queen despite being free men, and demanded he serve justice. With how Jon's claim to the throne existed, he should have had no reasosn to serve time or justice, and got sent to a Nights Watch that the realm no longer had need for. Then what do they do? They pack up a ship and leave for Naath. There was no reason for them to keep Jon, occupy Kings Landing, only to leave when they had no reason to stay in the first place. Just seems like D&D had no real clue what to do with them.
D&D had no clue what to do with the entire series once they ran out of books and dialogue FROM the books to use. Once they were on their own, they were terrible. I think that Game of Thrones is more of a testament to GRRM's writing ability than D&D's directing prowess. It was basically two monkeys given a piano that plays it's own music as long as they put batteries in it, but once the batteries ran out, they still had no idea how to use and essentially shit on the piano, flung it against the wall and walked away from it.
In 36 years I have NEVER seen something that was such a phenomenon, leave the public zeitgeist so quickly. This is a show that took over media around the world and yet here we are, barely a year later, and it’s almost never mentioned anymore. It goes to show how a messed up ending can completely ruin a piece of works legacy.
So fucking true
ya no joke... even mentioning Game of thrones at this point is cringey af.
DarksUper3DgeLord Toufiq not at all. Even with the ending, seasons 1-6 were so well done the show remains one of the best shows of all time. People who think otherwise, or were that disappointed by the ending, never understood the show in the first place. And your comment confirms you are one of those people. If you really understood the show, you wouldn’t say, “cringey af”.
@@jking4973 imagine if they ended breaking bad by curing Walter whites cancer, having his family all love him and go and live together in a massive mansion and its all fine. That's how badly they ended game of thrones, you may disagree but that's my opinion. If you enjoyed the ending then fair play to you 👏
@@Jamesmac95 y'all are trying to speak logically to a stan account with a Daenerys avatar.
“They ran outta books” pretty much sums it up.
@@JinMeowsoon so they just stop giving a shit ? that sounds even worst than them running out of books
RandomTipsyLemon hellll no lol there’s so much shit they could’ve adapted into the show that would’ve given them exponentially more nuance then what they had in season 8. Young griff and the Blackfyres are cut out entirely, lady stone heart is cut, pretty much everything about Eurons entire character is cut out, Victorian isn’t even in the fucking show which sucks, the entirety of Sansas storyline in feast for crows is cut out in order to remarry her to Ramsey so she can be raped. There’s so much shit that they left out of the show that would’ve not only given them nuance but it also would’ve just made the show longer giving George an opportunity to actually finish the books or at least give them more detailed outlines of what to do with the later seasons. Instead they rushed past pretty much all of feast for crows and Dance of Dragons.
That’s no excuse. They’re supposed to be writers. Write.
@@JinMeowsoon I know right? I've been reading the last 2 books and I don't remember any scenes from those books in the show
@@sergiomendoza4040 exactly I hated that they omitted storylines from a AFFC and ADWD, if they didn't want to do the amount of seasons needed to fully adapt the books then they shouldn't have been given this project (GRRM knew they didn't want as many seasons as he thought they needed so he shouldn't have given it to them) or they should've handed it to someone else who still had passion for the story.
If people manage to guess your ending before it happens, it doesn’t necessarily just mean you are overly predictable. It just means your story made sense and the conclusion is logical. If you subvert expectations by doing something wildly different, that isn’t clever. It makes your story absolutely insane.
When the actor who played Bran did the reading prior to Season 8, he seriously felt that someone gave him a prank script, it was that bad. Sadly for him and everyone else, it was the real thing.
If you watch the video of the casts doing table reading on Season 8, you can see Varys' actor immediately flipped his script after learns how he dies.
Fact that actors other writers and producers gave different ideas and D&D ego got in the way shows how much they didn't care about anyone and everything. The actor who played ser barastain selmy spoke up against the direction his character was going compared to the books D&D just killed off his character cuz they got butt hurt.
"Jon is sad because everyone is mad at each other" I burst out laughing at that
@Michael Artemis They didn't have the balls to release an inside episode, so we will never know how they will justify that.
I read that in David Benioff's voice. Just like when he says "Dany kinda forgot"
*sits there with a confused face staring at all the sassy women in his life*
Me too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, we should do a parody together of this bullshit 😅😅
I was laughing so hard and now reading your comment Im laughing about it again. Jons gloomy face when he says that was priceless
I finished the show in 10 days and I am so disappointed. I can only imagine how the people who followed it for 5-6 years must have felt
dude I just finished the series myself for the first time within like 8 weeks. I can’t even imagine the pain after 8 years of being invested. So underwhelming :(
I literally don't watch TV shows anymore as they are released because of this show. I just wait for them to be over so I can binge them. I got so invested in GoT over those years only to get crushed the last season. Never again lol.
GoT does not deserve the criticism it receives, I'm glad I am one of the people that actually likes season 7 and 8
at some point when the lanisters layed down thier swords. It wouldve been the perfect ending if arya killed cercei and the clegange brothers killing each other. Maybe have jaimy fight with tyrions sellsword (i dont remmber his name) and then maybe the dragon queen just returning to the east with all her loyal people because she realised she shouldnt be king of westeros and it wouldve been perfect
Bad, Sameer. Real damn bad.
I just finished the series today, how does nobody talk about how we saw thousands of people get wiped out by the white walkers, basically everyone, yet after they kill the night king their armies are perfectly fine? I thought there was going to be some creative way they would have to defeat cersei due to lack of numbers. But no, just a regular old battle with a massive army. Hell, their plan was to surround the city!? WHERE DID THIS ARMY COME FROM
One of my biggest pet peeves was Sansa doing nothing in the crypt when she was given a knife and there were people getting massacred down there
My issue with that is when Jon was King in the North she heard him order every male & female to train in combat. She's 5'9" (taller than Jon & Arya) and able bodied and it was an apocalypse and she had people who could've taught her at least the basics of self defense but she refused.
What I want to know is how the fuck skeletons managed to smash through solid stone
Out of everything that happened in that episode that’s what annoyed you the most 💀
First Bran went out the window Then Tommen went out the window Then writing went too
Still someone show me how great writing could have saved it with only 6 episodes left.. it couldn't. Especially if they didn't kill off the white walkers so easily
Michael Xz It's a shame the show couldn't : /
Ser Writing of House Benioffandweiss is truly the worst character in Game of Thrones.
The writing went out the window long before Tommen. Remember the bad p00sy, the north remembers
SerNoddicusTheGallant truth!!
"I DONT WANT THA THROOOONE!! SHES MA KWEEEN!" -Jon for all of szn 8
My Brudas where is da kweeen?
the spiciest taco 😂so true
Did anyone else just automatically read that with an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice?
Someone visits r/freefolk
@@slyceth You mean the scene when the mountain make the head of the Viper explode?? This was the best scene ever aired on TV's. Grow up, it was never meant to be a show for little children.
The show runners straight rushed to end it because they were set to make Star Wars movies. They fucked GOT up so bad that they lost Star Wars
This KZhead video was written better then the last season and I’m not joking
*Tyrion:* It's not for you to decide. *Grey Worm:* YOU ARE NOT HERE TO SPEAK! *Tyrion:* 'he speaks for 3 minutes and decides the Fate of Westeros'
this was the craziest bit for me,he just killed a queen grey worms saviour,and he is told not to speak as he is a prisoner...then he decides all of their fates and everyone agrees its up to him?????wtf
Grey worm: *pikachu face*
Brad Headband I know, why would anyone listen to anymore of Tyrion’s bad advice.
Bran: I dont want to be king Tyrion: Bran pls be king Bran: Why do you think i came all this way
bravo dabid, bravo
It’s crazy how this show had SUCH a bad ending that it literally erased itself from pop culture. This show went from “mainstream, one of the most popular TV shows, almost as quotable as Star Wars and Lord of the Rings, most people know about it” to “mostly forgotten, hasn’t been popular in years, literally never referenced anymore, only actually remembered by disgruntled people who used to be fans”. It was so shitty it literally undid the show’s entire legacy and reputation, now it’s just “that one show that everyone used to watch”. I don’t think a bad ending on that scale has been replicated before, nor do I think it will be again. It’s THE most infamous show ending ever.
Imma gonne watch game of thrones for the first time today wish me luck
@@Moesie man don't waste your time but hey you were warned
@@sydnitheromantictaylor112 i did but I did speed up a little, skipped all the talks. I kept the excellent scene of the beatifull ladies 😂👍. So it took me like 10 minutes to watch each episode and the fighting scenes. But i skipped all the talks
It's nearly identical to how Dexter was some of the best TV ever capped off by a horribly written ending. Only on an infinitely larger scale.
@@Moesie incredible troll lmao
As disappointing as the last seasons were i think my biggest letdown was Selmy's death. Here's a man who can win 1v1 against Brienne, the Hound, Jaime, the Mountain, Oberyn, Jon & Robert and who could still very possibly kill half of them if they all banded together against him, and he dies getting shoved around by a mob of paper masked nobodies. Shame.
It was when i tapped out. For me, 😊it was the first deathbon the show that felt badly written and kinda dumb.
It was a big mistake like 10 years ago when everyone started praising media for "subverting expectations". If the twist can be anticipated from the plot's direction and themes, that's not a mistake, that is good. That means it's a good, coherent story. Subverting those expectations can also be a good thing, if you either 1) subvert common tropes in ways that are logical for your story, or 2) foreshadow a narrative twist subtly enough where it's still there, but may not be apparent on a first watch. 1) is a Ned Stark's death in GoT. 2) is Sixth Sense. The last season (or two) of GoT is just a twist for the sake of a twist, it is the equivalent of wattpad writers throwing a tantrum over someone guessing their ending.
The end of GoT is like when Robot Chicken makes fun of M Night Shamalan when something happens and he pops up to say what a twist
Breaking Bad had the most satisfying ending of all shows. And that series never had any books or material to adapt from. You just need better writers, that's all.
Breaking Bad is also the greatest show of all time.. GoT tried but failed..
There are only 5 characters also and a very common storyline(selling drugs to help your family), GoT is way more complex
@@miguelvarona463 Ah yes breaking bad only has 5 characters. All the other cast were ghosts all along.
@@MrWhite-ru3oz Lmao it says something when people are still pissed about game of thrones
@@miguelvarona463 GoT is more complex??? Bwahahaha, lol. It might be on much bigger scale - but Breaking Bad is far more complex and deep show. you can even make Connection with fucking God or Jesus with some characters. Fucking swimming pools have depth behind them.
Bran: "Yes, I can. I'M KING." "Any man who must say, 'I am the king' is no true king." - Tywin Lannister
Tbf as stupid it was to make bran king that line actually kinda made sense in that context. Grey worm tells them they can pick a king (idk why the biggest lords of westeros suddenly need grey worms approval for aynthing) and then when they do he immediately tries to shit on the first thing the "king" does. It felt like grey worm needs some sort of a reminder that at the end of the day he's a nobody because he was acting like he owns westeros
What bugs me is quote "Wy do you think i came all this way?" As Brans response for Tyrions question if he'll be the king... he doesnt want to be one and he did all that nothing just to be one? I have missed something or i really dont know
@@PlesnivejSejra lol and in the very same scene he goes on to say "i dont want to be king" and none of the 15 people sitting there seem to pick up on this fuckery
Power is power. - Cercei Lannister
@@peterumathum4903 exactly! And here i always thought im simple consumer and i wont see these kind of bad writings...
I also never understood grey worm in the end. He actually gains a heart in the later seasons and then decides to kill innocent civilians and poor people even tho that’s what he was against from the beginning. All because he was following his queen. Made no sense
Jon has always had a hero's journey. Not after the show drifted away from the books. He has had a hero's journey since book 1, it's just so subtly written, hidden deep beneath all the other big stuff happening in the series. He is the ultimate main character of the series, after all he is literally the song(son) of ice (lyanna) and fire (rhaegar). It was a fresh and creative interpretation of the hero's journey concept, and D&D just subverted our expectations by having him do absolutely nothing of importance in the culmination of the plot he's been integral to since season 1, the very reason he got fkn resurrected for. Thanks a lot.
He's going to be an anti-hero, dnd didn't understand that necromancy is not a good thing and that those reanimated through dark magic will never be the same people afterward. We already have an example of this who is not Jon.
i thought it was a song of ice and fire as in jon (ice) and dany (fire)
@@RED-my9hlme too i really dont believe azor ahai is jon or only jon
My biggest issue is that they been talking about “Winter is Coming” since episode 1 and Winter is over in one episode???
I'm assuming that it will be an entire novel for the Whyte story line to wrap up and an entire book for the Dany v Cersei to wrap up. And like huge 1000+ books for both. So the books seem like they are on the right track in terms of pacing and being more consistent. Edit. I'm sure he's fretting quite a bit over wrapping up in 2 novels time. He may have to cut books in half again. Did that work for the last two novels? Yes and no.
@@Bradley_Lute Have you seen GRRM. That dude is going to die before he finish his books. All of us will be left disappointed.
I agree they built up the Night King for so long just for him to die in episode 3. They should have made him the last villain to die not Cersei
@@igiveyouthefacts I'm assuming they were following the way things happen in the unwritten books. Winds of winter is likely the big showdown with the White walkers and a dream of spring is likely the showdown with Cersei. GRRM got the idea from lord of the rings. The issue though, is that they compressed both of these plots into the last two seasons but gave too much weight to the whites and didn't have enough time to flesh out the battle for Kings Landing.
Climate change. Duh /s
You know when emilia Clark can't find the positive side of season 8 no one can
Actually really respect her for a moment of honesty rather than fake shilling
True....
Apparently she was so upset when she read the scripts for the final season she cried, went for a walk, and called friends and family.
@@Sough I mean several of them have had that reaction. Oh hell all of them probably have that reaction, even if they don't say it in front of a camera.
Best season ever!!!! Emilia Clark's demeanor said it all.
I really hate when people say “They ran out of books.” D&D didn’t even adapt the material from the books! If they had the show would’ve been much better and probably could’ve went 11 seasons. They didn’t have to make up nonsense if they just adapted the book material that they had! They didn’t run out of material they just didn’t adapt it. They had more than enough material.
Only good thing about season 8 is that it motivated me to read the books,because I knew George will make much better ending.
What I find funny is how smart Tyrion is as a drunk in the earlier seasons but gets dumber and dumber as he sobers up lmao
Tyrion fucks up a lot but fixes all his mistakes at last in seasons 5 to 6. In season 7 and 8 I'm still wondering to this day why Dany didn't throw him off the highest roof
@@smileandnodd supercuts delight said the same thing, he was like does alcohol make him smart
💀
Wine is the equivalent of charisma points in GOT
He did say "I drink and I know things" so, maybe he actually meant it. He drinks, and then he knows things
It would have been so cool if Danny gradually went crazy over like 4 more seasons but instead they did it all in 2 episodes
Why would D&D do that to my queen 😔👊🏽
Or even a time jump! Have the last episode or two take place after she’s been queen a few years. But D&D had her lose her mind overnight bc her nephew didn’t want to bone her anymore.
@@bangtanruinedmylifeinabeau5616 because they wanted to work on their fantasy show where the confederacy and slavery still existed. thank god that never worked out.
although i agree it was badly done, i still think there were hints of her insanity all around. first showing the targaryen nature, the ‘flipping a coin’ analogy, then showing the way she often makes mistakes, especially with the ruling of mereen. the way she snapped and burned all the masters, along with the way jorah, barristan, and later tyrion were all trying to suppress her rashest impulses. with all of them gone she faces the final enemy, and therefore snaps on westeros
@@lucasnyman5424 she was definitely headed that way, but they went from gradually ramping up towards The Mad Queen to straight vertical climb into the stratosphere. This guy did a rewrite of just the Battle of Winterfell episode and the last two episodes that actually makes sense, and fit into the constraints of the short season. It can be done, but D&D weren’t interested in trying. kzhead.info/sun/iK6aeZ1tlnOKqmg/bejne.html
You are very smart for seeing these points and being able to articulate them in a clear way to your audience. Good job!
I agree with almost all of this. Yeah the writing went downhill, but in defense of seasons 5 and 6, season 5 was more of a build up season to everything that happens in 6 and beyond, they might have balanced it better but it was still good. For season 6, the reason Cersei decided to blow them up and she changed was because of the Walk of Shame. The whole city saw her walk naked and she was brutally humiliated, and the whole continent would sure as hell hear about it. And she was never loved. I can see how that kind of trauma and anger would end up with her being mad and not giving a shit about subtlety anymore. But yeah… it was VERY weird how that kind of blatant despotism didn’t result in a rebellion by the people in Kings Landing, and how come most of the other lords didn’t think it was an issue later on. I think the scene was well earned, but the aftermath was horribly handled.
"He feels like a guy who just wandered onto the set from another show." Best description of Euron Greyjoy ever.
Milo Cooper tbh he’s like the opposite version of Daryl Dixon
Eroun Greyjoy is the Creed Bratton of GoT
Pilou (Euron's actor) was allowed to choose his own costume after his first appearance. He wanted to look like a rockstar (he said so in an interview). Pilou's train of thought was similar to D&D's.
He killed some of the worst characters on the show so that gives him a semi-pass for me.
But what show? My guess is Black Flag.
S1: W S2: I S3: N S4: T S5: E S6: R S7: I S8: S COMING
I would make IS to season 7
S1: W S2: I S3: N S4: T S5: E S6: R S7: Is coming S8: and it's gone.
S1: winter is coming S2: winter is coming S3: winter is coming S4: winter is coming S5: winter is coming S6: winter has come S7: winter is here S8: winter is over.
@@jacobmccabe458 S8: winter is over (but there are still more than a half of the season to go)
They have been saying Winter is Coming for 7 seasons, and then it got cold for a minute but Dany kept everyone in King's Landing warm.
it happens nearly with every tv shows. chaos multiplies as the show's universe expands, it's hard to not flop a show.
I just don’t understand why ANY show gets made if the story line isn’t fully thought out. Completely setting it up for failure.
Howdy from 2023, still waiting on that sixth book...
Reason why Dany couldn’t see the iron fleet: “SHE FORGOT”...... many brain cells were lost at that moment
She might have vaguely heard about the Iron Fleet when the Sand Snakes and Yara were captured by them. She very likely did not know that upgraded, more advanced versions of the Scorpion anti-Dragon ballistae were installed on the ships of Euron's fleet. The harsh consequences of not having good intel. Perhaps Bran has only so much synaptic bandwidth and didn't have time to review those time files, particularly since he was preoccupied with events in Winterfell.
A K this would be true, except for the fact that the master of whispers TOLD her about it, and her advisors even convinced her to not launch a preemptive attack against the fleet, it’s just awful writing by D&D
Mr. Benioff, or Weiss, or whatever you are, you forgot you were a writer.
What's awful is that everything else this season was amazing. The writing was the only aspect that was a disappointment. The acting, music, cinematography, visuals and action were all incredible, arguably the best of all the seasons. If it weren't for the bullshit writing this season would have been the best of them all, the velocity would have surpassed everything else in TV history.
I’d rather they made the excuse, “Itvwas a surprise ambush.”
*tyrion :* we should all be ruled by this creepy kid in wheelchair over there....bran the broken *literally everyone who isn't from the north :* who??
C Vox yea that’s basically what happened and also you forgot they voted for him king even though they know nothing about him
He's Ned Stark's son, people know him
Not to mention about who the fuck tells all Westeros about Bran being the Three Eyes Raven and how did they know what does three eyes raven mean?
WHOMST?
Someone who literally said “I can’t relate to people, I mostly live in the past now”
The whole arya killing the night king upset me so much. Was hoping we would learn more about the night king
I don't like how the show turned into world war z it doesn't feel like game of thrones I think the white walkers should be more magical then swarming the world with zombies
"I'm sure in a few years, we'll get the real, official ending" Oh, you sweet summer child.
Brandon Stark: I'm not Brandon Stark anymore, I can never be lord of anything, I'm the three eye raven. Tyrion: hey Brandon Stark, wanna be king? Brandon Stark: Yes, being king is my destiny, I'm Brandon Stark, son of Ned Stark.
Don't forgot Samwell saying Jon is the only true king, and Bran himself confirming it
@@hellowill Then Bran later has the audacity to say "why do you think I came all this way?" so instead of backing the true king you proclaimed earlier, his whole plan was to take the crown from Jon. What a joke
Not to mention Jon, even though I'm usurping your throne, you will also go back to the Night's Watch... What the fuck. This season totally mind fucked me. I swear they shot it all different had it all ready and then some how all servers pcs IOS etc. Crashed and the the REAL season eight was lost for ever... Yeah in my dreams where Daenerys still desstroys Kingslanding, and I get to watch her sit the Iron Throne. 😖
@Kessroy He only sees the past, not the future. It made no sense for him to say that. The writers constantly did this thing where they asked themselves "whats the most quotably in-character thing this character could say right now?" and just did that no matter how out of place or ridiculous it was taken in larger context.
@Kessroy i don't remember that, was that in the show? the only dreams i remember him having were nonsensical.
HBO: you got 10 episodes to wrap this up D&D: 6 take it or leave it
Ryan: man babies
JRR Marting: For a good story, this should take somewhere between 10-12 seasons D&D: Nope, 7 it is HBO: DUDES! NO! NO! NO! Our money! D&D: Okay... 8. But take it or leave it. HBO: "... okay."
@@MaJuV 8 but the last 2 are pretty much half seasons
HBO: No wait, guys, that's not how you haggle. See, I'm supposed to set a low number and you're supposed to set a high... D&D: Yes.
@@Lupostehgreat Six for this, you must be mad!
The fact that during table reads actors and other writers and producer's spoke up and gave different ideas and D&D just let their ego get in the way.
I thought when Danerys started incineration people was a foreshadowing of her being the mad queen.
Season 8 Its like doing your homework 5 minutes before class.
have you tried doing your homework in 30 seconds?
Perfect 👍
Seen some one else comment this good job
Bell inglese viterbese
EXACTLY!
Poor Emilia. Every interview she is just so clearly upset about how it ended
Out of all the characters her got destroyed and ruined the most. She played as Daenerys for what, 8 years ??? And thats how her character arc ends ?? She becomes Hitler and kills whole city of innocent people for no legit reason? I would be very upset too.
Acting got better as the plot got worse each season
She deserved another season or extra episodes to do her justice but nope.
@@roxtechs P
She deserved a better ending and kit did to
I think GRRM realized that D&D didn’t care about his vision, so he gave them a fake ending and waited for the show to finish so he could deviate. I think GRRM pulled off a great trick AND still got his cut. Man’s a genius
Idk it’s weird to think the GRRM wanted the show to fail, he probably wanted it to succeed as much as anyone. However I’m sure he’s changed his plan after how bad the ending of the show was.
The adaptation went its own way years before the last season.
The turn for Cersai made sense. She was pushed to the point where she knew being subtle wasn't working so she decided to say f it. I think it was a good charcter development from her. Too bad they did nothing with her after
I agree, the issue is basically nothing came from such a dramatic act. The people just kinda forgot they were cheering on a populist theocratic movment and hated Cersie. Many nobles got killed, the only effect was the Tyrrells switching side just to be easily destroyed in the next episode and forgotten too. Tommon dying should have affected Cersie alot more too, since she caused it
@@Nathan-jh1ho it's like they forgot about how big the city was and just made the city into some short of caricature of itself. Never going into any depth after she blew most of it up.
Imagine if D&D had gone the mange/anime route and gave us a bunch of beach and hot springs episodes until books caught up
I'm not even sure that would be worse, actually. p.s. Manga don't do that since they don't have to wait for any books to catch up
@@SchrollShepard Yea thats what I meant with 'manga/anime' namely talking about the anime adaptations of manga
Weeb smh
@@SchrollShepard untrue! A lot of Japanese light novels are adapted into manga while the LN is still running. An example of this is The Devil Is A Part-Timer. Not all anime originate from manga :)
@@tessieract I never said all anime comes from manga, what are you talking about, friend? You're definitely right, but generally speaking a manga won't have anything to catch up to, because chances are it's the original source. Thanks for the correction, however.
Instead of Danny "kinda forgetting" the fleet they should have killed the dragon in the attack on Kings Landing, the literal next episode, and use it as a catalyst to her destroying the city. It's such a simple fix it's crazy no one thought about it.
Kishibe Rohan that’s exactly what I thought after watching episode 5. In Addition, they also should have killed missandei at the start of episode 5
Yes, that would have worked flawlessly! Don't know about the "mad ruler" thing, but it would have motivated the slaughter.
Even with the story they went with, all they had to do was put the ships there in the open. Dany sees them and flies in to torch them (because that was the plan all along) and once she is close they uncover the weapons that were hidden and shot the dragon down.
Are you the Real Rohan Kishibe?
Kishibe Rohan they should have had the bells ring then Cersei blow up wildfire in the city killing Missandei and a hidden ballista kills rhaegal. But even then I only see her burning the RK.
At one point when young Ned hears Bran and turns around and it cuts to the ravens face i honestly thought …. Did Bran just realise he may be able to influence the past if he can in somewhat interact with it ? Imagine the potential
Aaaaaand an entire season of dick jokes is all we got. My imagination exploded after that episode and they couldn’t be bothered to use it for ANYTHING.
I disagree on the Cersei thing, the Sparrows were a perfect foil for her because the high Sparrow couldnt be corrupted or manipulated through her regular tactics, that's why she had to blow them up, although it would've been more interesting to see her face more consequences as a result of such a bold move but i do think it makes sense why ahe would do it.
The final season was so bad nobody talks about the show as a whole anymore, it looks like it never existed.
Except for us, still furiously obsessed cos of our collective storytelling blue balls.
i'll be watching got for the first time, what seasons should i only watch to avoid the bad writing?
@@wihoemhae watch the first 4 seasons then drop it
@@wihoemhae i'd watch at least 1-6. Things does start to become suspicious after 4 but IMO it doesn't really go to shit until S7. 7 and 8 are just an absolute mess, ESPECIALLY season 8.
@@wihoemhae I concur watch 1 to 6 Season 7 starts to go downhill and rushes many storylines yet is still 100x better than the utter train crash that is Season 8.
"A character is only as smart as its author"
Got em
GIGO
To solve a maze easily, work backwards, consider what outcome you or a character wants and their role in addition or subtraction to get a certain point, then work backwards and show that character making others think it was their idea. To show intelligence well, create an arbitration that all knows except the audiance, or show them doing what looks like nothing important. They rely on subverting audience expectations, even when expected.
@@furyberserk I absolutely hate that people think "subverting expectations" is good story writing. The show could have ended with Jon fingering Drogon, it'd certainly be unexpected but it wouldn't be good writing
@@furyberserk "Subverting Expectations" tends to ignore the expectation of what you're making isn't shit.
Imagine _Game of Thrones_ as if you’re dining at an elegant restaurant. The appetizers are delectable-some of the best food you've ever tasted. The main course is second to none. You’re on cloud nine. Dessert arrives, expecting another hole in one, and it disappoints. No, it's not crummy. It's not on par with what was served before. Now comes the digestif, but instead of the after-dinner drinks, the manager walks up to you and randomly douses you in chocolate syrup.
I'd put it in terms of eating the best food I've ever had. While eating the desert, I suddenly noticing the taste and texture is off, and see I've ate part of a dead cockroach with maggots in it. Proceeds to throw up the whole thing
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="819">13:39</a> Not to mention that the surrender bells directly contradicts one of the few good things that D&D wrote themselves all the way back in season 2 for the Battle of the Blackwater.
"We wanted to surprise the fans, so we Kinda killed the show." D&D
hbo killed the show, they forced dnd to fit to much into 1 season
@@beianli4620 OMG really??
@@kosmo7411 _> they forced dnd to fit to much into 1 season_ Except even if this was true, there's plenty of wasted screen time. And this is no excuse for gross inconsistency anyway.
@@beianli4620 If only they had the same attitude towards Rome a couple of years ago.
Creative_Plays hbo wanted at least 10 seasons (it was their golden goose), but D&D wanted to go and do new Star Wars saga, and were so hung up with themselves to let other team finish those seasons.
Season 7: I'm the worst GOT season ever. . Season 8: hold my Starbucks cup.
*hold my starbucks cup and water bottle. Season 7 wasn't that bad imho lol.
@@DuskSkullin and arya.
@@DuskSkullin But Season 7 episode 6 was soo stupid that it made the entire Season look dumb.
hold my script
"And my bottle of water."
3 years in I'm just gonna wait for Game of Thrones: Brotherhood
This is such a good explanation. I laughed countess times with all the funny edits & comments! Good stuff here💯
"Jon is sad that everybody is mad at eachother." Just sums up the season so well
Yea, I giggled when he said that.
That kind of sums up John's character. My family is mad at each other :( Kings are fighting each other :( People are picking on my friend :( A man is hurting his kids :( Wildings hate me because the Watch loves me :( The Watch hates me because Wildlings love me :( Dragon Queen hates me because the North loves me :( North hates me because the Dragon Queen loves me :( blah blah blah, you get the idea. Such a whimpering little bitch.
yeah, I kek'd hard
reason why Jon should have been king. Jon is better than everyone else cause he's just sad, not mad.
@@colonelcider8292 But he's also not that bright:/ And has very little capable people on his side.
"Sansa is mad at Daenerys because she didn't like her, Daenerys is mad at everybody, JON IS JUST SAD BECAUSE EVERYONE IS MAD AT EACH OTHER" This was a typical quote hahahahaha
@Dardan Gashi Yeah Poor punkass Jon played and used by everybody and never fitted in anywhere.
Sansa in season 7 and 8 was just a stubborn bitch who was sulky every time things didn't go the way she wanted them to and she was a total pain in the a**.
Xerafi sure Sansa wasn’t the best at times in 7&8, however Daenerys was that x10, she took any chance she could to bitch and moan, it’s all she’s ever done and it was unbearable in 7&8, at least Sansa had some genuine reasons to bitch like resting soldiers after battling the literal reincarnation of death
@@oelaty9116you can't be serious rn? Sansa is the one who bitches and moans 24/7 over dumb shit dany only bitches when Jon didn't bend the knee for literally 2.5s after that she got over it and faced the real threat head on, Sansa is the one constantly bitching especially about Daenerys who has done nothing but help the north
Lumist 10/10 comment. You’re totally right.
I know this wouldn't apply for absolutely everything but good writing is definitely one of the most important parts for a lot of TV shows games and whatever else you can think of. Two games that always come to my mind are the elder scrolls oblivion and knights of the old Republic,the graphics and the combat and a lot of other mechanics in these games haven't really aged that well,but they are still considered some of the best games of all time even today because they have good writing. A lot of people still enjoy playing these games me included.
Imagine for just a moment if bran warged back in time, and the whole "burn them all" thing was the mad king experiencing his own hodor moment. Imagine if that somehow connected jaime and the mad king and completed his redemption arc. So. Much. Wasted. Potential.
Never even watched this show but YOU KNOW I'm here for some angry Marcus rants
Same!
Same here 😆
I watched the first season and I thought it was Good But I had a feeling the show would only get dumb From there
Same
Same!!!! Hahaha I'm not a Potter person either, but I loved his Grindlewald review!
This is the show that gave non-anime/manga people a taste of what it feels like to watch a Anime that had to split from the manga halfway through because it wasn't finished yet.
to be honest Full Metal Alchemist was not as bad as this! they also knew when and how to end it in a quick and timely manner, but i feel you. One Anime that nailed this concept was Gintama where they spent half a season going back and covering missed Gag arcs/chapters. The anime crew called it the Split Arc as it changed directions from the main plot. however, Gintama got lucky since they Mangaka Sorachi provided these comedy chapters.
Maybe watch videos before commenting.. He said that exact thing at the beginning of this video...
Maybe D&D should have taken notes from the staff of FMA 2003, they had even less to work with and made it even better than mangahood.
@Rando don't forget the original Hellsing anime too. That one went South real quick.
@@sweetyfri That's why I hardly watch anime now, and read a lot of manga, and even Light Novels. Everytime they announce a new adaptation, I quickly take a grasp of the source, get hooked, and when the anime is aired, I completly pass it, because I hate "original endings". Same will happen to me in the upcoming Wheel of Time series, and some other fantasy adaptations. I will keep the good memories of the books, instead of reliving this bitter experience, and wasting years of my time.
Wonderful summary - couldn't agree more. Another thought about Jon Snow - I would rather have seen more power in learning his real identity as the true male heir to the throne and Denarys stepping aside because of that truth, regardless of her wanting to 'break the wheel'. Everyone but she and Tyrion wanted him to lead, so I would like to have seen him set aside his claim of 'not wanting it', the same way he accepted to be Commander of the Night's Watch. I agreed with Denarys' death at Jon's hand because it avoided more war but then to not automatically be King and especially become a prisoner of the Dothraki was my greatest disappointment. It erased everything his mother and Eddard Stark had done to keep him alive. It negated everything he had done to fight the undead and gave no purpose to his resurrection. Maybe I wanted more of a Return Of The King event like with Aragorn's story in LOTR. By ignoring him like this, rather than a 'better world for everyone', we were left with a dull ordinary world; Bran and Sansa ruling and the Small Council discussing routine city government affairs. We watch these shows to be entertained and that's not entertaining. Eight years and to close like this? Yawn. After watching the behind the scenes features of the last season, I think everyone just got tired of producing the show for so long and ran out of gas. They didn't have anything left so they just threw together an easy ending to be done with it all.
if you are reading comments sorted by newest first, i just wanna remind you "a dance with dragons" came out 12 years ago. even in 12 years gorge couldnt finish the 6th book
The "I never really cared for the people" line is where i gave up completely
Right?! Protecting the f*cking innocents was his whole f*cking deal!!
I knew that this show was dead back in season 7. When John Snow and his merry men go north of the wall to try and find the white walkers to bring one of the dead back. That was absolutely terrible
Me too. I was like "what f is this" it felt as Cersei bewitched Jaime with her vagina.
Made me wanna throw my whole tv away. Just throw it all away. Fkn D&D... 🤬
pat waddington finally!!! Someone that agrees?
dude that 35 minutes was more satisfying than the last season of GOT
I litteraly didn't want the video to end
I am watching at 4 am and thought I am seeing a 10 minute video, until I saw your comment. 😂
I absolutely agree, I couldn't agree anymore. The hole last season left a wierd feeling in me, an empty space, that literally shouts for itself to be filled.
I don't want to agree with that, but I feel like I do. However, I think the commentary in this video is a bit too critical.
fuck yes
My version of GoT season finale Cersei sent bron and his group not to help defend winterfell but to assassinate Danerys, Sansa or Jon Snow while being distracted preparing to defend winterfell against the Night king. Bron and cersei plan to poison them. Jaime was surprised that Bron came to winterfell, suspected him and prevented the assassination because he knows the poison he gave to olenna which is same poison Bron brought. Bron and his group did not get a chance to kill dany instead they try and resort to sneak(surprise attack) jon and sansa in a secluded dark place but brienne protected the starks (brienne vs bron epic fight). Jaime saw this and was torn but he saw brienne and jon being outnumbered so he protected brienne. Bron killed Brienne while protecting the starks(character arc complete). Jaime backstabbed Bron and died. Jaime held Brienne's dead body suspecting Cersei is the mastermind. Tyrion is looking Bron's dead body. Bron lived by the sword and died by the sword he paid the price for being greedy(character arc complete). They failed to defend winterfell. They lost another dragon. The night king won and got winterfell. Meanwhile weeks before the start of the battle/defense of winterfell, Arya went back to south (kingslanding) wearing meryn trant face infiltrating Cercei's room, operating in the shadows(not fighting in the frontline with plot armor) and killed Cersei in a surprising fashion(the faceless assassin's way). Arya's last words to Cersei while stabbing her and before beheading her "I am Arya Stark. Look at me. This is the last face you'll see before you die." (Character arc complete) mirroring to Cersei's words to Septa Unella when she was imprisoned by the High Sparrow. Qyburn suspected meryn trant so he and the mountain went to Cersei's room only to find her head separated from her body. Cersei character arc mirrors Arya Stark's as Tywin once said to Arya in Harrenhal "You remind me of my daughter". Cersei and Arya are not your typical princess. If they are hurt or if their loveones hurt, like a wild lion or wild lone wolf, they will bite back and bite harder. Vengeance is what keeps them going. After they lost winterfell to the night king, Jaime came back to Kings Landing to confront Cersei if she sent Bron to assassinate the starks and dany which lead to Brienne's death and Bron's death only to find Cersei's dead decapitated body. Jaime is looking Cersei's face the way he looks Cersei in season 6x10 when she claimed the iron throne after tommen suicide. Jaime's felt empty after Cersei's brutal death. "No one" knows who killed Cersei. Season 8 episode 9 is when the Night King attacks Kings Landing. Bran will use all his ability to help Jon and Dany. Bran told them that the NK cannot be killed by fire, valyrian steel or dragonglass alone. It will be 3vs1 (Dany, Jon and Bran vs Night king). Bran told them that the NK can be killed by a Targaryen blood only with a sword blessed by melissandri's fire. They made a plan to close the distance between the NK and Jon who has the chance to win a swordfight against the NK. Dany will die sacrificing herself to give Jon and Bran the upperhand against the night king. Flashes back before her eyes all the good memories she had in essos (Khal Drogo, her child and everyone loyal to her). The north and westeros will appreciate Dany's sacrifice. She cleaned the reputation of the Targaryen house after the Mad king. She is not like her father and she proved it by sacrificing her 2 dragons and her soldiers and herself. (Character arc complete) Dany will have a statue in KingsLanding as a hero who save Westeros. Meanwhile Jaime Lannister helped rebuild all the castles destroyed by the NK including winterfell and castle black. (Character arc complete)
Not sure if anyone already brought this up but FMA deviating from the manga was not because it ran out of source material - the original author didn't want the same story to be told twice. She allowed the anime studio to create their own material in the latter half and quite liked what they came up with. Otherwise though yeah after just finishing GoT recently, this is completely spot-on.
Author said the Homunculi in FMA were just so much better than anything she wrote (she's right: Brotherhood's main problem was the Homunculi were just video game bosses for ed/al etc to punch). The 1st series problem was they had IMO the idea for a great ending (actions have concequences, and/or getting involved in a war sometimes even when you win the war you lose what you signed up to fight for in the 1st place). Then the series blew up and someone told them no, don't stop at S2, make a movie, then another movie, then we'll do a season 3. Oh did I say season 3, uh writing is expensive and the magna is now finished, do that.
I still greatly appreciate Kit for being so honest in the interview. Many of his cast mates were afraid to speak their minds.
Most who didn't spoke their minds were not MAIN protagonists, they have to be moderate until it's their time to speak. That can end a career.
I regret to inform you that I’m pretty sure that was edited 😅
@@dysmissme7343 it wasnt. google the real interview and u see the interviewrs reaction and he tries to save it by saying it is also epic.
@@JoeyAGamer Dany was a main character but she was too afraid to be honest. You can check her interview, the way she said "Best season ever" proves she was afraid. I appreciate Kit for his honesty.
@@mashedpotato4465 yeah remembering those interviews now they knew the ending was shit
"She's the most boring character to follow." Me: "laughs in Bran."
I was actually offended by Tyrion saying Bran should be king because he had the best story. Myself and a large chunk of the fandom had been complaining for years that his story was the worst. In the show, anyway. It's slightly better in the books. Still not great though. Interesting how he ate Jojen, but not all that interesting.
Daenerys and Brans chapters are really fun and interesting to follow in my opinion. I LOVE Brans chapters, we really get a new view of the magic side of the world and in Daenerys chapters you learn more about the culture and politics of Essos and there are DRAGONS! What more can you ask for.
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human How are his chapters not interesting???
I’ve only read the first book so far but bran is really interesting imo
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human Imo brans story was good until after theon came and he left and then it went to shit. The only thing good is the Hodor arc and Aegon Targaryen reveal. I think they went by really well tbh. After Brans story got even worse lmao he really had so much potential. I always thought he'd become a badass like what Aryas meant to be. I'd love to see him use his powers properly and same with Arya.
I think Cersei bombing that church makes sense. In the books we know shes planning something with wildfire, and getting revenge for the walk of shame totally tracks. She's the world most vain narcissist, and lashing back with extreme actions against anyone who challenges her public image like that? It fits.
the fact that Dany lost a dragon fighting with the Night King was not enough for her TO NOT FORGET THE FLEET, i mean they ruined the character cuz she loved her dragons. Also there was little remorse on dragons death she just moved on, THATS TOTALLY NOT DANY. Another thing they ruined about her character was her compassion and love for people, at the end she just went like a madman totally not like her. Her whole point of taking the Seven Kingdoms was to achieve this purpose and the end she was hanging around begging Jon to not tell anyone cuz she JUST WANTED THE THRONE. THAT WAS NOT HERRRR AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!