Will There Ever be a USS Donald J. Trump?
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The tradition of naming ships in the US Navy goes back to George Washington and the very first frigates. The amount of drama and politics involved in simply naming ships will blow your mind, but it's #NotWhatYouThink #NWYT #longs
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That secretary of the navy literally has been naming ships for more than 200 years. Kudos to him.
he deserves to retire after 200 years
lmao the painting of the first guy looking like the current guy thats funny :D
So he's over 200 years old then? That's the sea air for you!
They're going to name new ship joebama
He’s a busy guy evidently. 😎
“USS United States.” That’s the most ‘This is our first ship, like, ever.’ name.
United States Ship United States
@@freeze459 of the United States Navy
USS US
@@erichvondonitz5325 The esteemed vessel, the USS US of the USN.
No let’s make it USS WOKE or USS BLM
Interestingly enough Jimmy Carter is the only US President that has a ship named after him that is not an Aircraft Carrier. Some people might jokingly say that this is because carriers tend to be front and center in US projection of power and Jimmy Carter wasn't a very popular President due to his foreign policy blunders. But in reality, while in the Navy he worked on the Navy's nuclear submarine program and wanted to serve aboard the Navy's second nuclear submarine USS Seawolf (SSN-575), so it's somewhat fitting that they named one of the modern Seawolf class submarines after him.
Well, Ford got a carrier, wanna join the USS Whip Inflation Now (WIN)? Given WIN was a vaporware product, enough said. Oh, you do realize nobody was named Seawolf, don't you? Jesus wept...
@@spvillano Thank you for helping me illustrate my point. Ford was a US President and an aircraft carrier was named in his honor. As I stated in my original post Carter was the only US President to have a Naval vessel named after him that WAS NOT A CARRIER. Jesus also saw your pitiful YT comment and decided that the human race was too far gone to bother saving... thanks for helping push us over the edge into stupidity.
I guess you missed the Lyndon B. Johnson in the video…
I think they only name carriers after deceased presidents
@Tonybot That's not necessarily true, CVN-77 was named for Bush Sr. who was still alive in 2009 when it was commissioned.
If anybody was curious for some context: The US Navy has comissioned a total of 66 carriers, they have had many differnt names and naming conventions throughout 13 have been named after historic ships: Ranger CV-4, Enterprise CV-6, Wasp CV-7, Hornet CV-8, Essex CV-9, Yorktown CV-10, Intrepid CV-11, Hornet CV-12, Wasp CV-18, Boxer CV-21, Kearsarge CV-33, Ranger CV-61, Enterprise CVN-65 10 have been named after Presidents: Franklin D. Roosevelt CVB-42, John F. Kennedy CV-67, Dwight D. Eisenhower CVN-69, Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71, Abraham Lincoln CVN-72, George Washington CVN-73, Harry S. Truman CVN-75, Ronald Reagan CVN-76, George H. W. Bush CVN-77, Gerald R. Ford CVN-78 23 have been named after battles: Lexington CV-2, Saratoga CV-3, Yorktown CV-5, Ticonderoga CV-14, Lexington CV-16, Bunker Hill CV-17, Bennington CV-20, Princeton CVL-23, Bellau Wood CVL-24, Cowpens CVL-25, Monterey CVL-26, Bataan CVL-29, San Jacinto CVL-30, Leyte CV-32, Oriskany CV-34, Antietam CV-36, Princeton CV-37, Tarawa CV-40, Midway CVB-41, Coral Sea CVB-43, Philippine Sea CV-47, Saipan CVL-48, Saratoga CV-59 2 have been named after Navy veterans/heroes: Forrestal CV-59, Nimitz CVN-68 4 have been named for Senators/Representatives: Randolph CV-15, Hancock CV-19, Carl Vinson CVN-70, John C. Stennis CVN-74 6 have been named after historical figures: Langley CV-1, Franklin CV-13, Langley CVL-27, Cabot CVL-28, Bon Homme Richard CV-31, Wright CVL-49 4 have been named for American Concepts: Independence CVL-22, Independence CV-62, Constellation CV-64, America CV-66 1 has been named for fictional things: Shangri-La CV-38 3 have been named for places in the US: Lake Champlain CV-39, Valley Forge CV-45, Kitty Hawk CV-63 As for incomplete ships Reprisal CV-35 was named after the word reprisal, Iwo Jima CV-46 was named for the battle, United States CVA-58 was named for, well, the USA, the John F. Kennedy CVN-79 will be named for the former president, Enterprise CVN-80 will be named after the historic ships, and Doris Miller CVN-81 will be named for the WWII hero and Navy cross recipient. The training ship Wolverine IX-64 was named for the animal, and its sister Sable IX-81, was named for the small mammal. As for presidents being the namesake of carriers almost all have had some personal connection to the military. FDR was Assistant Secretary of the Navy, JFK was a Navy Lieutenant in the Pacifc, Eisenhower was the General of the Army in Europe, Teddy Roosevelt was Assistant Secretary of the Navy and a proponent of a strong naval force, Washington was the commander of the Continetal Army, Truman served in the Army during WWI, Reagan served stateside in the Army during WWII, H. W. Bush was a naval aviator during WWII, and Ford served on the USS Monterey during WWII. Only Lincoln had no connection. So the likelyhood that Clinton, Obama, or Trump will be used as a namesake are slim due to their lack of service to the military. This list doesnt include Escort Carriers, or "CVEs" as they aren't in current use, and I dont feel like sifiting through 100+ names.
That was a helluva lot of work but an interesting read. Well done!
wow, desire why more likes. way more than the guy saying some native american needs to have a ship named after him.
What was the fictional thing the carrier was named after?
@@koharumi1 It's from a press conference with FDR. A reporter asked him about the Doolittle raid, where 16 army B25s took off from the deck of the USS Hornet and bombed Tokyo, later ditching over china. The reporter asked FDR where the bombers took of from and he told them that they took off from "Shangri-La." Shangri-La is a mythical utopian valley said to be in the Kunlun Mountains in the Himalayas.
@@aaron___6014 that's a piece of crappy political correctness, akin to the one someone stated on TV recently: that the next Space Moon Mission crew _will have_ an Afro-American and a woman. So, I understand that outstanding capacity and airmanship comes second..? By the same token, in the second mission we will have an all gay crew, then an all Transgender crew, then Afro and Native- Americans mixed crews, etc. Skill will come second. Or last. 😐 By then someone will make a movie: _The Correct Stuff_ ...
Bring back GOOD aircraft carrier names. Wasp, Hornet, Enterprise, Saratoga, Essex, Ranger...
The Wasp is an amphibious assault ship, and the lead ship of her class of the same name. Essex was the second ship, but after that they went off the rails with Kearsarge and Boxer, then trying and failing to stick to battles. The class naming is a mess. The America Class is off to a better start. I do think that the LHDs or whatever comes next in the role of secondary carriers should be named after the historically important carriers and kept that way. There's just the right amount to keep in circulation. There are too many important battles to be limited to a ship category that's so unlikely to be plentiful. And for some reason, the battle selection is really scattered, from army only battles to small Marine engagements, and no primarily naval battles. Navy ships should use naval battles, this doesn't seem complicated (I would also accept primarily Marine engagements, since they're the intended passengers of the LHD's)! Battles would be a good naming scheme for cruisers.
We will get another Enterprise, 3rd Gerald Ford Class will be an Enterprise.
Essex was a great carrier imo
Or McRaven that's gooddam name for honouring ex admiral
Essex was so good they named S*X after it.
Naming ships during WW2 might have been easier
The problem they had was finding enough names - they almost ran out of battles to name carriers after…
@@allangibson2408 but there is a easy solution. More battle, more carriers. :-)
@@danny_d_bongo That was the way they went… That was how we got the Midway class…
@@allangibson2408 quite smart these americans.
@Steven the seagull The US navy was just fine for names when WW2 got shoved upon them… Then the world got to discover what a shipyard size 3D printer could do…
Excellent Thankyou. One of the best
Man, those destroyer names have always gave me chills. How can someone be called Arleigh Burke or Zumwalt. They impose respect since they were kids.
Can't wait for USS Boaty McBoatFace to show up 😅
Ah I see, you're a man of culture as well
But there is hms boaty mcboat face
@@helenpidgeon1915 actually that ship was never named that it ended up being named HMS Sir David Attembourgh (sorry if that is spelled wrong)
@@brickfury2344 the underwater drone is named Boaty Mcboatface. IIRC.
I don't think the yanks would even name an underwater drone that
The German Navy is lazy when naming submarines, U-31, U-32, U-33, U-34 and all of the peak of naming creativity, Type 212A
Agreed, though the Germans have been famous for naming other things really well.
Their destroyers too Z-1, Z-2, Z-23, Z-35 you get the point
@@freeze459 naming by hull
Though they did have cool names for their bigger ships such us SMS Konigsberg, SMS Nurnberg, KMS Bismarck, KMS Friedirch Der Grosse
@@erichvondonitz5325 the Kriegsmarine never used KMS prefix though, if was only Bismarck and only Friedrich der Große
The reason a submarine is named after Jimmy Carter is that he was a submariner himself in the late 1940s and early 1950s. So its a better tribute than naming a carrier after him.
My favourite US warship name is USS Prinz Eugen, having kept the name given to it by the Kriegsmarine, but what is really interesting is that Prince Eugene had commissioned ships named after him from five different navies, including the Royal Navy and the Italian navy, where the Italian namesake also survived the war, to be surrendered as a prize to Greece, which did not follow the US’s example allowing the ship to keep its name. At least the Italian ship wasn’t nuked …twice!
Let’s start naming submarines after fish like we did before and during the Sturgeon Class 637 Boats.
here are some new names I'd choose: USS Common Carp USS Cod USS Thin Eel USS Rainbow Trout
@@Jack-mf5lw USS Blobfish USS Lumpsucker USS Humuhumunukunukuāpuaʻa I can list em down for you :D
@@Jack-mf5lw carp, cod, and trout were WWII boats - they were going to build the eel but contract was cancelled near the end of WWII.
@@submarineradioman5535 They sound stupid only until they get assigned
@@Jack-mf5lw I corrected my comment. - they were all WWII boats except the eel which was cancelled - they could be reassigned - better than naming a ship Clinton or Biden or some sorry ass name like thst
For anyone wondering why there hasn't been any new Constitutions, it's because the original is still in active service.
LOL
It's the oldest warship still in service in any navy.
It's basically a museum ship now.
@@AznCracker13 Correct, but it is still in active commission, so... the name is taken and active.
It's also the flagship!
Nicely done video, the part about naming the fish was amazing, I never knew that lol
From what I could find, this pic shows the USS Makassar Strait (renamed from Ulitka Bay), after it ran aground while under tow in 1961. 9:01 It was last used as a practice target ship.
"I want the names of the ships to be inspired by the constitution." ... "USS constitution"
Still on the rolls.
A modern USS Constitution would be nice but technically one already exist, it’s just not modern. The real uss constitution is our oldest ship still in commission. It was built in 1797 and sits in Boston’s harbor. Still in active duty to this day but I mean who’s it really gonna fight?
@@xFrankie107x Angry uncle frank in his motorboat that says it sits on his spot.
George Washington was a super literal guy 🤷♂️
@@cleverusername9369 to some a spade is a spade...
There needs to be a carrier named Ernest E. Evans, he was the captain of the legendary destroyer USS Johnston and he’s also the first native american to receive a medal of honor.
100% agree, True American hero right there
Absolutely. God bless his soul.
Oppose that simply because his conduct could be viewed as suicidal and getting over half his crew needlessly killed who didn't have a say in essentially committing suicide. He was on a DD it wasn't his ships role to be tanking Yamato shells. Even when successful he had multiple chances to escape and quit while he was ahead and didn't do it. Of course his actions saved lives on other ships and it's really up to you to decide how you view his conduct but I can see reason why the navy would be reluctant to give Evans such a huge honor.
I love this idea!
@@commodorezero There was nothing suicidal about what he did. he did what was necessary, with every intention of surviving if possible. By your logic, every soldier does the same exact thing when they make contact with the enemy. According to you, only those who run away like cowards are "heroes". Willingness to engage in self sacrifice to protect others is the whole idea of warfare.
Thank you
I don't know if anybody has pointed it out yet or not (or anybody cares) but the footage of the young folks in Dress Blues taking ship names off a board is from the first class Midshipmen Ship selection at the U.S. Naval Academy.
Someone once suggested that the US Navy should name ships after sponsors, like sports stadiums do. The USS McDonald's The USS Red Lobster The USS Target The USS Kum & Go
MAC BARGE
USS Grubhub
USS RAID: Shadow Legends
USS Jollibee
USS Candy Crush
When he said USS Obama i got flashback's to COD Black ops 2
I was so confused, "isn't there already a USS Obama?" Then I read your comment and remembered where I heard it before.
"The Obama's under attack! Make sure no one leaves this ro-"
USS Osama would be just as good.
@@joelmartin2549 bomb
@@joelmartin2549 Best typo of all time if you ask me XD
Milwaukee Wisconsin USA born and raised thanks for the shout out
Excellent!
Making up fish names to give to submarines was a genius and very funny story. Enjoyed that bit. The Alaskan bays with Russian names are also pretty humorous.
I thought that was hilarious. Could we have a picture of this fish? LOL. Uh well... you see...
During ww2, there was a carrier half built and cancelled that was named "USS Iwo Jima". Imagine if the carrier were never cancelled, the US were still fighting against Imperial Japan. Then rolls out a US carrier with a japanese name. Nowadays, there's an still active amphibious assault ship named USS Iwo Jima and there was also another amphibious assault ship named USS Okinawa.
I must admit, I learned about a lot of fish I didn't know about... 😁 The Wahoo, for instance. Incidentally, "Iwo Jima" is sort of an Americanized name - the island is known in Japan as "Iō Tō". (Just like the "kamikaze" weren't known by that name in Japanese, the word for "divine wind" being pronounced "Shinpū". )
Well a sea wolf is another name for an orca, it derives from west coast indigenous peoples, it is also mythical so it can go both ways. And some are real some are fake, it’s hard to tell Edit: Not a specific orca I’m talking about just in general. Edit 2: it’s also an eel of sorts as I’ve recently found out.
@@naashoiianinigii5266 The Sea Wolf isn't named for a whale. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarhichadidae
Fun fact, Doris Miller is a Mess attendant aboard the USS West Virginia, he is not only the first African American to be awarded the Navy Cross, but he moved his dying captain to a safer place before manning an AA gun. He managed to shoot down a plane, all while the battleship was listing
Dam, hope he got some recognition for it. How did the captain and his fellow crew mates feel about it. With the 40's having segregation and discrimination.
Fun fact of the bay names he provided only Ulitka bay is a Russian word meaning snail.
Well a new carrier CVN-81 is named after him, as well as a destroyer in the 70s, so I think he’s getting recognition
@@sebastiandomingos335 he did get some recognition if you consider being in a navy recruitment poster as recognition that is. And his reputation isn't really as clear as glass here, all I can say is that one of his officers wrote about him, saying "He manned the 50 cal and went guns blazing, as if he had used one all his life. As he did so, his unusually passive face now bore the deadly smile of a berserk viking." Or something close to that
@@deliveryman_dan well that's good to hear.
I hope so. Hope there will be
Yes please!
"Ulitka Bay" is a very interesting name for the ship, because in Russian ulitka means snail XD
🤓👍🏼
In my Language I saw it as "Ulit ka" or "You're annoying" or different, depends on where you are from
@@TheDoctorFromArknights Ulutka Bay Named in 1923 by USC&GS, it derives from Cape Ulitka, from the Russian word meaning "snail". And this is according to "Dictionary of Alaska place names". This book is written by professor Donald J. Orth and published by the U.S. Government Publishing Office in 1971. The book is free and you can find this information at the page 1006 if you are interested.
@@biggestZhonglifan nice
@@TheDoctorFromArknights Oh and just to be clear, I didn't ment to argue about it or something. You just got me curious about whether it really is a russian word or not. So I did a little "research" and didn't really find much data on an origin of the name of the bay, apart from what I mentiond.
I say we should take a page of of the Halo book and start naming our ships after famous phrases from speeches and poems. Examples may include something like- USS Come and Take It USS I Have A Dream USS The Buck Stops Here You get the picture.
“Heres our transport ship, USS Come and Take It. The plan is to anger the enemy to come and try to take it. Unfortunately for them, this is a heavily armed transport”
You're not thinking grand enough, we should follow the naming convention of the Imperium of Man USS _Retribution_ USS _Righteous Fury_ USS _Armageddon_ USS _Eternal Defiance_ USS _Abhorrence_ Etc
U.S.S. Yo momma gay
USS F.U.B.A.R
USS Date of Infamy be like: We're going to stay with my boomers' boys here, Missouri and Arizona but Arizona dead he's lying right here. Ah, Pearl Harbor, we will stay here until the 7th of December. HMS We will fight on the beaches: Do we have to sunbathe on the beach every day or do we get a cup of tea, chaps? HMS Finest Hour: It would be awkward If we didn't get an Aircraft Carrier for this name. British Ship Naming Convention: How in the bloody hell did this happen to us?
My favorites are the USS John F Kennedy and the USS Michael A Monsoor, two true heros who I have always idolized. My uncle had a ship named after him, the USS Tinsman, named after Seaman Second Class Carl W Tinsman, another hero I am proud to be related to.
Naming the carrier after Doris Miller is wholesome af ❤
I honestly think they should bring back the old carrier names. I mean, Enterprise is coming back, so why not names like Yorktown, Lexington, Hornet, Saratoga, Wasp. All of them have a history, all of them fought on the front lines, most of them sunk fight back against Japanese expansion and avenging Pearl harbour. I for one can’t think of a better name for these ships.
I’m not sure but when FDR died they named the carrier that was to be named Coral Sea was changed to the Franklin D Roosevelt. That was CV-42. It might be the first one named after a president. My father served on it. I was on a 4 day dependents cruise on it when I was 13. Norfolk to Mayport.
USS Wasp LHD-1 is in service. Also USS Essex LHD-2. Enterprise is coming back as CVN-80. USS Yorktown was used until 2004 for CG-48. Ranger and Saratoga were used for carriers until the mid 1990s.
Yes! The less egos involved in ships names, the better.
I honestly think the U.S. Navy has enough carriers for quite a long time, and doesn't need to build any more. Even the Gerald Ford class was uncalled for. Well okay they built one to prove they can. New tech, electric catapults and all. But - there are 4 planned. FOUR. What on Earth are they meant to be used for? :-|
@@suzukirider9030 They have a lot of Nimitz class ships from the 70s and 80s. They are getting old. Each landing of an aircraft is stress and tearing for those ships. The steam catapults are very heavy on maintenance as well. At some point modernisation isnt worth it. So they need replacement, and why wouldnt you come up with an entirely new class of ships? The changes to the Gerald R Ford-Class are very significant, even to the last comissioned Nimitz-Class carriers which launched in 2009. Cutting edge technology will give US forces an advantage in an potential battlefield environment. Launching four aircraft at once is better then three, two or just one. Other countries dont have those abilities. Carriers are the main assett for global dominance of the US. Only criticism I have is that they have put too much new stuff on the prototype vessel. But I think over the years they will improve and fixing those ships, and making new ones will get cheaper over time. Nimitz-Class has been around for 40 years now and they still do improvements to them.
The Culture series of books by Iain M. Banks has a bunch of great ship names. Among them: • Irregular Apocalypse • No More Mr Nice Guy • So Much For Subtlety • Youthful Indiscretion • Just Read The Instructions • Gunboat Diplomat • Kiss My Ass • Big Sexy Beast • Funny, It Worked Last Time... • Ultimate Ship The Second • Size Isn't Everything and many, many more.
Where can i get them...
another reader, hell yeah
ultimate ship the second is 300 iq
is “Of Course I Still Love You” also from this series?
Those look more like tank names than ship names.
Dory Miller is quite well known in Waco, Texas -- as is the Navy's . . . controversy . . . over awarding him the Navy Cross rather than the Medal of Honor. But the Black man from Waco has finally been honored in keeping with his heroism on the darkest day in Navy history.
YEAH! *MOGA - "Make the Oceans Great Again!"*
We're gonna need more fish Edit: I could see this being a really fringe but "Best Selling" Young Adult novel where commanders 'find their spirit fish' and embody it's strength in order to fight 'the bad nation'. But tragedy strikes when both hope and fish species run dry so our endearing protagonist, a marine-biologist's son, goes looking for something new to bring peace etc.
That sounds fishy 😅
Uss blobfish
As Dad said, many moons ago, "There are plenty of fish in the sea". Oh, I'd have named the novel or series of novels.
Start naming ship like UNSC halo ships: USS Infinity, USS Forward Unto Dawn, USS Spirit of Fire
I will say that the Spirit of Fire and Pillar of Autumn are such BADASS names!
No need to keep it to just UNSC ships, how about Long Night Of Solace, or Guilty Spark, Mendicant Bias (good one for a survey ship given it's meaning), the Breath of Annihilation etc.
"USS Two for Flinching"
They weren’t USS because the UNSC is an international conglomerate, hence “United Nations Space Command”
Sod that - how about Starship Troopers ? "To the ever lasting glory of the mobile infantry shines the name Rodger Young !"
I would hope that future ships when named after a person that the person should have served.
I remember going to a hockey game on January 26th of this year, and one of the top class navy men and his colleagues came to an Idaho steelheads game in downtown Boise, to announce that the USS Idaho was being built.
I'm sure the reason is that giant brass letters would increase the radar cross-section
Brilliant!!! 😀
With his name, the ship is doomed.
pretty shore the british would try and sink it...then apologize saying they couldn't help it.
@@shavaughndavidson2257 what makes you say that?
All the gold toilet seats and gold faucets will prevent it from resurfacing after its first dive.
These are the names I like Aboat Time Ship For Brains Nacho Ship Sea Señor Aquaholic Pier Pressure B-Yacht'ch and my all time favorite Unsinkable 2.
The Seaward
Wait, what happened to Unsinkable 1-ohhhh I see what you did there 🤣
“If you sink this your gay”
Love these
And it will be UUUUGGGGEEEEE!!!!!!
At 9:38 seeing Fay Jones' Thorncrown Chapel was not something I expected to find in a video about Navy vessels 😂
That would be Great
imagine if mr Deez Nuts becomes president and a ship would probably be named USS Deez Nuts
bruhh
USS Ligma
@@C05597641 😂
! nodnarB og s'teL Translate to other hemisphere.
"USS Deez Nuts has been tasked to intercept a Russian fleet that has been massing off the Hawaiian Islands"
i live in pittsburgh and the city has turned itself around
that's nice to hear! Best wishes for continued success!
I live in California and the state has really turned itself into the ground
I really wish to live in Pittsburgh. City of bridge and railroads.
@@cbassdela hopefully Texas doesn’t end up the same way. It’s super sad California came to this
The difference between the words and subtitles are also interesting
"It would be a big ship,very big,the biggest of all time."
As of naming ships after foreign nationals, one should mention USS Lafayette (a class of SSBN submarines), named after the marquis of La Fayette, a French national and a hero of the American Independence War. Similarly, I think that any foreign national who rendered distinguished services, as historically recognized, to the USA as a whole, should be eligible to have a USN ship named after him, as well as any other public naming. Lafayette obviously falls into this category.
Pretty sure there is or was a USS Winston Churchill
@@MajesticDemonLord Yes, it's mentioned in the video
Though never applied to a warship, the Navy did use the named USS De Grasse, named for the French admiral who drove off Cornwallis' rescue force at the seige of Yorktown.
On December 28, 1784, the Maryland General Assembly passed a resolution stating that Lafayette and his male heirs "forever shall be...natural born Citizens" of the state. [This made him a natural-born citizen of the United States under the Articles of Confederation and as defined in Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution.] Lafayette spoke in 1792 that he had become an American citizen before the French Revolution created the concept of French citizenship as well. And he was also invited by Jefferson to become the Governor of Louisiana. Lafayette was also made an honorary American Citizen postmortem by the United States Congress in 2002 just like Churchill in 1963. Only eight have been grated this honor in the history of the United States so it’s not taken lightly. So with all that Lafayette was and still is legally an American citizen. rmc.library.cornell.edu/lafayette/exhibition/english/twoworlds/index.html www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CRPT-107hrpt595/html/CRPT-107hrpt595.htm
It sounds like the US just grant honorary US Citizenship to these figures then naming a ship after them because they "are technically US Citizens now" (Not that I mind ofcourse)
"There may not be a supercarrier named USS Barack Obama either" *Sad CoD BO2 noises*
That would be" Barry Soetoro" then!
There will be in another timeline
How about Barack oBOMBa instead?
It will have a fake name… like Barry Soetoro… and no one will know which country it really belongs too…
@@thatguy7085 only you won’t know which country he’s from guy!
My ship was the USS Comstock LSD 45 named after the Comstock load, silver mines
Wouldn’t ever thought ship naming can be such a fascinating subject
Hoping they have another USS Constellation! Because it’s an awesome name.
Constellation meant the Stars on the Flag right?
@@grummanf14tomcat40 no the world Constellation is used to describe star maps in space but it can be used for the US since they have a lot of stars on their flag
There will be a new USS Constellation. It will be the the lead ship of a new class of Frigates.
I hoped one was the uss independence
@@jamesTBurke already used for one of the LCS.
They just need to hold off on calling a ship after Trump until the Space Force gets it's first cruiser.
You mean star destroyer
@@chandelier6811 I think he means small moon
Name it "Trump card"
dont give them ideas!
@@Ca61e maybe, a planet with guns
I don't mind naming a ship Churchill, we already named ships York, Enterprise, and Essex, all British ship/city names.
Dorris Miller deserves a DDG. Not a CVN, and we need to return to the old names. Lexi, Sara, Ranger, Yorktown, Hornet, etc. Also, can we acknowledge that this guy just tackled a super controversial subject without being biased😂
Mass Effect and Halo had great naming schemes. Names of songs, battles, cities, mountains, famous scientists
Even the Covenant ships have beautiful names.
HMS Fat Bottom Girls
I liked the song like naming schemes.
There were a few more USN ships named after foreigners: SSBN-641 Simon Bolivar SSBN-642 Kamehameha SSBN-628 Tecumseh SSBN-633 Casimir Pulaski (He was posthumously granted honorary US citizenship - after the ship had already been scrapped) SSBN-616 Lafayette (also posthumously granted honorary US citizenship- after the ship had already been scrapped) USS Queen of France (named in 1777 - the Queen at the time was Marie Antoinette) USS Pocahontas (2 ships) AP-70 Florence Nightingale
Kamehameha lol
"There once was a ship that put to sea, and the name of the ship was the KAMEHAMEHA"
@Peter McKay He was born before the United States was founded and spent his whole life fighting the United States and was killed by an American Soldier. He allied himself with the UK against the USA. He violently resisted the American encroachments on his nations lands. He never accepted United States citizenship. Just because the USA seized his peoples lands and forcefully expelled his people to lands further west, which they would later seize as well, does not make him one of them.
@Peter McKay You state that the settlers were foreign to Tecumseh and his Shawnee nation. The USN is part of the government set up by those settlers ergo Tecumseh is foregn to the USN.
@Peter McKay Kamehameha the Great 1758? - May 8 or 14, 1819, was the founder and first ruler of the Kingdom of Hawaii. The only contact he had with the United States was merchant ships that occasionally visited the islands. He would not have considered himself an American and neither would have the US Government. Hawaii would only be annexed by the US in 1898, long after he was dead.
Yes but only if its solid gold.
I hope so
This was so interesting. Being in the UK Military for 25 years and never knew how the US Navy got names for ships. Probably the same for UK Vessels. Please make a UK Version 🙏🇬🇧
As an American: you have really confusing naming schemes.
@@threestrikesmarxman9095 what do ya mean? Pick a royal. Shove it on a ship. Already used that royal? Oh well, use them again.
@@manedwolfwithagmailaccount1478 Well, during World War II, you'd expect that the _King George V_ class would all be named after British monarchs. Instead, you have one king, one prince, one noble, and two admirals. Then there's also the _Queen Elizabeth_ battleships-one named for Queen Elizabeth, one named for a quality, and one named for a pun.
@@threestrikesmarxman9095 Don't forget the one that was named for a colony and the planned 6th named after a battle!
UK absolutely destroys every other navy in their naming schemes. Look up any nuclear submarine and alot of their destroyers
All in favor of re-using the names of noteworthy warships in history? Yorktown, Ranger, Hornet, or Johnston, for instance.
I can't help myself but feel that it somehow takes away from the noteworthiness if you recycle a name like that.
Halo style 😌
But add a generation suffix to it, like 'Yorktown II'
@@notstonks20 They do that with fighter jets such as the f-35 lighting II
@@delfinenteddyson9865 Just have to make sure it lives up to it
Yes and it will be GREAT.
The Galley at Camp Lemonnier, Djibouti is named after Dorie Miller also.
I like the narrator voice he's the only reason I'm learning this history lesson. Thank you mr.
I’m not particularly fond of naming carriers after Presidents at all. I’d rather start reusing the carrier names from the Lexington, Yorktown, and Essex classes. CVN-80 will be another Enterprise so there’s that.
@Eric kicking liberals Perhaps, but I'd give up every presidential carrier name, including Ronald Reagan, if it meant Yorktown and Hornet rejoined the fleet.
@Eric kicking liberals Constitution is still in service, but the other five original names can be resurrected if they aren't being used by some frigate or PT boat no one has heard of.
“Essex” is in service as LHD-2 iirc
@@YukariAkiyama close enough carrier
@@dallas9397 all these amphibious attack ships are converting to F35B carriers anyway.
I hope not, but I fear there might be.
there should be... and a whole lot more.
Changing the tittle because this is more controversial, a true periodist
We have multiple thumbnails and titles for each video. All good KZheadrs do (or should anyway!)
But it worked right?
@@NotWhatYouThink what a way to sink my day Ill show myself out
@@NotWhatYouThink No, you shouldn't do that. It's obnoxious and makes me not want to watch your channel.
Honestly I feel we should honor our navy veterans, and name ships after medal winners that served in the navy. I know it's done somewhat already but I think they should all honor people that have given so much for our country.
Medal of honour winners ?
Given the sheer volume of medals awarded in peacetime and wartime, I echo Dave_H_' question. If we awarded ship names just on the Navy Cross, we'd need a bigger navy.
USS Dwight D Eisenhower go brrrr (Yes I know he was also in command of the Navy)
@@psjesse117 ironically, he was best in his career as a logistics man, not a combatant commander. So, a surface combatant is now named after a land logistician, ironic, but true. One upside is, he had combatant commanders report to him and a battle staff to do the heavy lifting and understood his limitations enough to choose good leaders under him and listen to their input. All good things, as he excelled in politics, which is what is needed at the level of leadership he was appointed to during the war. Could you see Patton in his place? The Allies would have been fighting one another and the Germans. ;) And Omar Bradley said it best, "Amateurs talk about tactics, professionals talk about logistics". Something Patton learned the hard way, when his armor outstripped their fuel supply and sat empty right in the middle of the road. Something recently observed in Ukraine, for much the same reason. Still, they're welcome to name a ship after me, call it the USS Boobyprize.
And our Navy has a shipped named USS Harvey Milk. SMDH!!! I guess I shouldn’t be surprised since we have a he/she admiral now.
That carrier would be all gold 😂
In the game carmageddon 2 released in '98 an aircraft carrier is named USS Lewinsky, after Monica Lewinsky.
Here are some new fish names I'd choose for nuclear submarines: USS Common Carp USS Cod USS Thin Eel USS Rainbow Trout
keep em coming ⬇
How about little tunny, marlin, norwhal, king mackerel?
I've been to the USS cod in Cleveland. Very cool sub
USS Axelotel
Or however u spell the minecraft fish
"i dont have a job but at least i have a sub named after my city!!" i wonder if that really worked?
yes, a ship to shore and back row boat.
In common usage among submariners they refer to the sub as the Corpus Christi. Leaving out the “City of” part.
My dad was stationed on the USS Swallow. (A bird). It was a mine sweeper. It was not the first to have that name, at least 2 before. My dad's Ship was sunk near the end of WWII in the south China sea by a kamikaze. He survived.
He survived, the kamikaze didn't. It's a bit cold, but that is war and something this veteran loathes, but was good at.
The mere mention of HMS Warspite is enough to remind me that while our American cousins make and name great ships, we brits have been doing it long enough to have the edge
You're absolutely right. Some of our original favorites, for example, are : HMS Guerriere, Java, Pictou, Cyane, and Levant. ;-)
@@john3pq after capturing/ destroying so many of yours USS Chesapeake, Essex and President etc and realising how poorly made they were we felt you needed to see how a real nation makes warships ;)
Not gonna lie but HMS Terror is most badass name even though her story is quite tragic
@@gtr9s523 his/Her majesty's Terror 🥶
Totally. HMS Repulse I think is the best name for a warship ever. Renown, Revenge and Dreadnought are also fantastic. Though I have to admit, USS Ticonderoga sounds very dramatic.
I'm reminded, humorously, of The Simpson's episode where the family gets evacuated from somewhere and the chopper pilot tells Homer that the nearest vessel is the USS Walter Mondale, a laundry ship. LOL!!
Well clearly we need to stop building ships until we figure out some new names
The USS Constitution is the oldest and longest serving ship actively commissioned in the US Navy and was involved in the War of 1812. Nicknamed "Old Ironsides" because the British shells more often then not just bounced off the sides of her American Oak hual. And yes, her crew wears era correct US naval uniforms and are active members of the US Navy.
Believe it or not, that rounds bounced off is still an active field of study. Looks like a bit of overengineering and luck helped a lot, strengthening areas that would've failed otherwise in more traditional designs.
@@spvillano no, we know why they bounced. Double laminate north American oak. She also had more guns than the ships she fought and the only way to sink one in that day was to get on board or hit it in the rear.
@@Deathbomb9 no, we know, but still study distribution of forces. It's not a magical wood, it's forces, distribution and deflection that count. Otherwise, our fucking tanks would be made of frigging a specific oak, rather than steel and now, aluminum alloy.
@@spvillano tell me one tank that uses aluminum alloy as armor. Also, you made it sound like we were still studying why those ships were tough as nails. Obviously I know it's still a scientific study that continues on throught the ages but with different materials. And no, we wouldnt be making tanks out of wood. The thing that annoys me the most on here is people who are vague with a response then come back with some stuck up and snooty comment thinking they are clever, like you just did. It's a great way to end up looking like a fool in a debate. No where did I say that we dont continue to develop and study new materials. It's called material science. Force distribution is a study but it falls under the material science realm. Also, aluminum alloys arent used in tanks because they are too weak and when talking about armor density is king along with strength. But you'll find more rubber used in modern tanks than aluminum. If you are talking about APCs or IFVs then use those terms. Those are not tanks. Just because it has tracks, a turret, and a gun, that doesnt make it a tank.
@@Deathbomb9 uh huh, so science halts somewhim. Nope, still studied, still relevant due to stress factors, shear strength and more. M113 APC's, aluminum hulled, till in use. You got a few things right, starting with material science, but your knowledge on alloys is deficient, badly. Titanium, totally between aluminum and steel, right? Nope, alloy complicate that horrifically. Density is the king of strength, but diverting forces is the emperor. When you actually have a clue, come talk.Diversion of forces, redirection of forces and capitalizing of varying densities is a very eal thing that you excluded yourself from. I expect better, you're brighter than that!
10:33 USS Gabrielle Giffords (LCS-10) put a Navy ship picture up-side-down, during the named ceremony??? What a genius!!
Purposeful snub?
@@ronmaximilian6953 absolutely.
What would be the meaning behind that? Or just a stupid mistake? I don't know the history of the name, ship or events surrounding the unveiling.
@@jamesrogers4674 a way to express disappointment with naming a ship of war for an anti gun crusader based on no qualification to be honored whatsoever.
@@michaelmappin4425 I looked her up. Hard to believe that was 10 year's ago. Yeah. Anyone who's against any bit of the constitution will desecrate all of it and doesn't belong in government or military.
I just can’t see them naming any ship of war named for a guy who deferred to stay out of a war. What sailor would want to serve aboard a ship named for a guy who got “bone spurs?”
watching this made me think how much humanity has advanced in the last 150 years.. we’re living a portion of that and technology is already becoming more and more advanced
On occasion, there have been ships named after foreign warships too. Mostly thinking of USS Canberra which was so named to honor the crew and ship HMAS Canberra that was lost alongside American cruisers at the battle of Savo Island on the night of August 9-10 1942.
Interestingly, none named after the Hood. ;)
I thought they were kicking around the idea of the "USS BONE SPUR".
USS Perverted Potato sounds better, after the illegitimate clown currently squatting in the White House.
USS BONE SPUR I love it lol. Of course the colour of the ship would be Orange as well lol.
He is anti-war. Thats a good thing.
How about the USS dropped a bomb on my own ship I mean the USS John S. McCain
I love it. US Bone Spur would fit perfectly. trump was such a coward and refused to serve
I think USS Boat is a pretty good name
I am overjoyed that the name of Doris Miller will prevail and be remembered for his valiant actions to defend his shipmates and his ship that day in Dec. 1941. I am white, no that is not right, I’m Caucasian, I was born in England, and, raised in Canada. I am a true Canadian and damn proud of it! This does not prevent me of pursuing my infatuation of world history. As such, the history of Doris Miller’s valour is not lost on me. The Secretary of the Navy’s choice to name an aircraft-carrier after this brave man is a just decision! Thank you Mr. Secretary
this is like a modern history channel
*In Gandalf's voice* "Or as History Channel should've been".
Such a great channel. Keep up the good work.
7:11 Anyone else gonna talk about how cool/fun that looks?
true
Interesting video, here in Ireland, there was a practice of naming ships after women from Celtic mythology, there was one exception to that, the being the LE Aoife, but when the P60 Class, they were named after Irish writers [James Joyce, William Butler Yeats, George Bernard Shaw and Samuel Beckett,]. Hence the class being dubbed 'The Dead Poets Society'.
I like the way Elon Musk names the Falcon 9 recovery vessels... taking conventions from the AI spaceships of Ian M Banks Culture series of books. "Just Read the Instructions", "Of Course I Still Love You", and "A Shortfall of Gravitas". So a Trump Aircraft Carrier could be called USS "It's All Fake News"
USS "STOP THE COUNT"
AI ships, my balls, he named them after Mind ships. There's a difference, AI was self-contained, Minds had pretty much a gas giant mass sitting in hyperspace to use for processing. It's pretty much comparing intelligence of a paramecium against a human.
Next carrier class should be called "Sleepy Joe" or "Lets Go Brandon" at this point...
The USS Agent Orange?
If you want Banks names carriers really ought to be named after war ships rather than General Systems vehicles. So something like Killing Time or Gunboat Diplomat
Genuinely curious. At 0:48, we see a sailor going up to a board with a bunch of named plates. Do sailors get to pick their duty station or am I missing something?
Only the biggest, most beautiful ship, maybe with a great toupee.
9:01 every photograph tells a story, what’s the one here? Update: USS Makassar Strait, ex USS Ulitka Bay, served admirably and was struck from rolls in 1958. While being towed to the scrapyard the ship ran aground and nearly split completely in half off the coast of California in 1961. The ship was apparently used as a target ship until around 1970 when the wreck was gone.
Well, some of the most recent names for warships that is absolutely awesome is the future Virginia class SSNs. USS Barb, USS Tang, USS Wahoo and USS Silversides (all named after famous submarines that fought in WW2). Then there's the upcoming Constellation class frigates. USS Constellation, USS Congress and USS Chesapeake.
Wahoo
Wait so USS consteallation is getting retired?
@@techietisdead The last USS Constellation CV-64 was retired in 2003 and scrapped in 2017. The next USS Constellation will be FFG-62, planned to begin construction next month (April 2022) with service starting in 2026.
@@dundonrl Oh yea it USS constitution thats the really old one, oof my memory
I don't envy the guy having to name ships between 1943 to 1946.
Oh, Sure! and with his wooden figurehead on the Bow... 😂😂😂