Inbred Jed’s COMPLETE Guide to Square Filing! How to sharpen the sharpest chainsaw chain by hand
2021 ж. 18 Қаз.
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I had to come back to this video after watching Jake's tribute to Jed. He was such a font of knowledge borne from experience. RIP Jed. Tree legend.
What is the name of the tribute video...?
@@hnchmen34 "I love you Jed".....i think
@@graphicdetailboy8347 I found it prior to you replying... thank you... What a beautiful tribute from Jake for Jed...
SAme. The video is six days old. Will look for name now
It's called I love you Jed!
You don't understand how much I appreciate you getting Jed's knowledge on video for all of us to share! This is one of the many things we will have to remember Jed!
Best part: “I love you Jed”.
Was just coming here to say that ❤️
Si
*immediately cuts Jake's hand after that*
Totally agree with best part being I Love you Jed
Love is always the most important for comradery and just being your brothers keeper in general. We all should be mindful to consistently practice that. It's always on the front lines with these guy's. That's why I love to learn from these genuine gentlemen😁
Love the moment where Jacob told Jed he loved him 41:42. Loved when Jed was in the videos RIP Jed you will be truly missed.
When I heard the news about Jed I immediately thought of this video and how all of you worked/played/lived by each other's side in this dangerous industry. That moment you said "I love you Jed" was the most honest moment I've seen shared by 2 men who respected each other and had a true healthy bond built by a shared vocation. This is not unlike soldiers who share experiences on the battlefield and is punctuated by sudden and unexpected loss. Those left, take care, lean on each other and possibly, with time, this loss will will have a bit less sting. I want to thank you for sharing these videos, I've learned so much about my own practices and how to improve them. I'll venture out and see if I can find some Elysian beer and throw one back for Jed.
Love this video RIP Jed. He always makes me laugh when he steps on that pedal. Jed's teaching lessons are truely transending.
RIP Jed. You will be greatly missed.
I too came back to this video to remember Jed. What a tremendous loss of a wonderful guy. I learned a lot by coming back to this video too. I'll probably still learn more when I return the 5th time.
A good friend and mentor to many, You teaching reached many in New Zealand . Rest easy.
Miss this guy! He is looking down on us! A legend in heaven!
Rest in peace Jed learnt alot from your videos
Rest in Peace Jed! You were a beautiful soul.
After watching this for the third time, I truly understand your friendship.
I just square filed a chain following Jed’s direction, may he Rest In Peace. I don’t remember this saw ever cutting this fast, wow!
15 minutes in, and I've got to comment. A little background. I'm a 56 yo man from Texas. Got some property to clear, so I can build my daughter a barn. She's gotten good at the cattle game. So, being the smart guy, I'm researching the fine art of sawyering with a chainsaw (I usually deal with metal). I stumbled across the other channel, and now have this one. I truly enjoy the way yall conduct yourselves, and the teaching methods. Now, the second part is that guys shop. WOW! I'm a big fan of old school trucks, and timber frame woodwork. That shop has it all. Kudos to that guy. Badass shop. Maybe I'll manage to put something like that out. My next foray in life is lumber milling, and this shop is ideal to me. Guys, please keep doing what you're doing. I'll keep watching.
RIP Jed. I didn’t know you but know you were real and a good dude. Passionate about your line of work which is a true art. Dangerous line of work and hate it for the family cause I can’t imagine. All I can say to anyone else in this line of work is… no matter how experienced and good you are, Mother Nature doesn’t care and you always have to take your time and think through things and sometimes situations just aren’t possible to overcome safely so it’s not worth a life to try and make it happen. I’ve been lucky when I got complacent with things but this is a real eye opener for me because it was obvious he knew what he was doing and was one of the best. Prayers sent to you and your family and friends as they deal with this tragic loss to such a pure and real man.
Buckin Billy Ray Smith and Guilty of Trees on are my favourite chainsaw KZhead channel's! Such passion and wholesome content always make's me feel happy watching like I'm right there along for the ride haha cheers boy's!
“Objectively it *is* faster if the sharp part faces the tree.” 🤣 Y’all crack me up.
Absolute legend, RIP Jed.
Awesome in depth tutorial on sharpening. I didn't know about the passing of Jed until I read the comments and still don't know any details. My condolences to Jed's family for the loss of your friend. God bless.
Hey ive been watching you for I while and I'm 11 and my dad has a tree service and you been a big inspiration my Dad just got me a saw and thank you I learned so much from you thanks
Thats great , watch your dad and learn how to be safe , keep up the good work !
Listen to the old timers but above all be safe little bro.
Sorry to bring this up but man I never knew Jed but god am I going to miss such a genuine kind person his knowledge will be timeless
Dude, three years without a drink? That is awesome my friend. I’m years sober myself, couldn’t handle moderating so booze went out the window. Jedd really is a genius, I appreciate this tutorial!
Jed was such a trove of knowledge and skills. it is too bad we lost him . R.I.P. great guy! thanks for the stories and watching you do your magic!
"When your chain is on backwards..." Thanks for leaving that in. I laughed so hard. After 30+ years running a saw- I did that for the first time last year. And it was a doozy. Switched to a longer bar in the field (without my glasses) & was 60 feet in the air before I realized. Fortunately I was in a bucket not a saddle.
I felt the same way a few weeks ago when I got a saw stuck for the first time in at least 15 years....I wasn't chucking though.
god i love "the short stoke wisdom". never once thought of using a wedge while sharpening to keep the chain still and straight while i work. this is great shit. thanks, guys. my next birthday will be 70, and i still miss climbing, and still thrill to the challenges every time i smell fresh sawdust. people say: "you're too old for this work! time to retire!", i say: "do your mothers know where you are???" :)
Yall should do a stream. This same group of dudes. Drinking around fire on back porch and just laughing and telling tree work stories for an hour or two. That would be epic!
Like many I had to come back to this. Such an awesome video and such a great guy. I will always remember Jed for sharing his knowledge and Jacob for filming it! Thanks guys!......Climb safe, stay safe everyone.
Thanks for sharing this epic video again Jake. Jed lived a great life, however short. So sad for all those he leaves.
Hats off to Jed for being such a wealth of knowledge. RIP legend. CHEERS to Jacob for taping this and capturing Jed’s legacy and wisdom for everyone to hear, forever.
Love it that Jed follows Buckin’ Billy Ray. ❤️ Great informative videos, please keep them coming.
Yes miss..Watchung jed..humble way men used to be..man of God
36:45 jed is talking about weird geometry phenomena. It's compound miter shenanigans. If you think about your angle through three planes in 3D space, plus the "twist" of the file in jed's hand, the resultant angles can do unexpected things
Dang I enjoy these Jed sharpening vids so much I'll probably watch this like 10 times
Jed new name instead of “in bred” should be “Jed-i wood master” or at least “the Jed-i”, glad the boys are back together! Gordy has a killer shop. Thx for sharing men!
An electronic technician for the FAA here. Don't even own a chainsaw and never have. Just watched an hour long tutorial on chain sharpening and loved it! Jed is the man! I'm sure the feelings of love are mutual. 😆
I’ve been waiting for this!! I have absolutely no use for it as a simple home owner… but I still wanted to know how Jed square filed!
Are you serious? As a home owner you should want to know this so you can put it to use. Well, I guess you probably live in a cookie cutter suburb with minimal to no trees. Ive got a big property with trees that need trimming and occasionally felling and then cutting up for removal. Honestly, as a man you should want to learn as much stuff about as much stuff as humanly possible so you’re prepared for any situation.
Wish I had this information in 1989 when Hurricane Hugo dropped 5 trees at my house. Only a 22 inch oak landed on the house. That's when I bought a Stihl 038 AV Super with a 36 inch bar. Didn't learn about full chipper and skip chains until KZhead. Oh the time I lost. Still, bucking firewood and splitting it with a Monster Maul saved a lot on power bills for 33 years. After age 65 I started renting a vertical splitter.
Ol'Jed had that chainsaw sharpening down to a science didn't he? He's got me wanting to try to square grind a chain!! RIP JED
RIP Jed , you taught me n others a bunch of helpful advise
I came back here just to listen to Jed talk... Loved the guy and I never met him...
Great to see you Jed! Awesome videos guys! I always remember you Jed from our time on Davey in Seattle shout out to you sir!
Man... RIP Jed.. I got hit by a limb 4 months ago.. broke my neck, back, jaw, and leg. My brain was bleeding and collapsed both lungs and punished one. Spent 3 weeks in a coma.. just when you think it won't happen to you it does.. loved watching jed cut and skate back in the day. You truly will be missed...
Damn man.. how are you now?
I'm doing good now. Not running a saw right now because of my back but I'm back to work just taking it easy.
I love, "vulnerable Jed". Great interactions there. Glad you all got to work together again
Hey I Love semi skip chains. Just found this channel and am an OLD Logger and Truck driver. Sorry that Jed is passed My Condolances to his family.
Great collaboration. Jed has put more thought into chains than anyone. Love watching him go through his process.
What a video! What an awesome dude! Jake you really do great work! The end of your tribute video to Jed was great.
I had to watch this than back it up again and again over and over bc the camera just was all over the place except on the chain when he was filing. The audio was excellent and informative. Thanks.
Gordy needs to do a tour of his shop. That place is badass
RIP my brother, thanks for everything. The first tree i will cut this year will be for you!
Rip jed thank you for all the knowledge that you have passed on to the community
Thanks for the lesson on square filing, always wondered how it was done. Can’t wait to give it a try.
Jed's a bloody legend man - sooo much of his attitude I have taken onboard.
Oh my the square body’s in that garage !! And what a Ford . Best years of trucks ever made .
I'm so glad this video exists, what a snapshot of a cool guy... Thank you. RIP
Back when I was new (and I'm certain I'm not the only one) I assumed factory sharp was the sharpest you could get. Well eventually, you have to sharpen your saw. First time I used it after sharpening it, I'll never forget the difference. I'll never use a factory unsharpened chain again unless it's an emergency!
Was sad to hear of jeds passing. His guide was kinda the early start of me kinda figuring out how to move forward with my hand filing. Lot of stuff I took from this I use to this day. His approach to the mechanics of the cutter and learning to use a file in different ways to adjust them kinda changed my outlook on the whole thing.
That work shop is a man's dream
Hanging out in that shop looks like so much fun!
Really enjoy seeing you and Jed working together more often again. Looking forward to your channel in the future.
Thanks for all your help Jed
Firewood in dad's childhood. He would buck saw and wedges to drop a big cottonwood. Then, he filled the black powder splitting wedge and started busting off slabs that he could carry. He had a simple cradle to put under the rear axel and rock it back to lift up one wheel. Change the wheel for a drive pulley and put the belt on up to the 36" round saw blade. When he had enough slabs, start up the truck and cut them to length. Then, split them to size by hand. No chainsaws until I was a kid. In fact, I still have the axe and bow saw that I cut a lot with. Chainsaws were as much work to maintain as the work they saved. Only professionals were using them in the 60's. I only cut about 5 to 10 cords per year.
I've watched a LOT of chain sharpening videos on youtube, so I get a lot of sharpening recommendations. This video comes up a LOT! Makes me sad when I see it, even though I never really watched guilty of treeson much. The tribute video truly showed a wonderful man and great tree guy.
41:10 what a cool guy. Jed seemed like a man who thought deeply about things.
Rest Easy Jed. A good man.
i'm an air conditioning technician in the UK so have no need to use a chainsaw much less sharpen one, yet i have found myself engrossed in this video! Another awesome video, keep up the good work!
You are the man, everybody loves the man who can fix our air conditioning. Not many things better than soaking up some AC after sweating your brains out all day.
Love all you guys!!!! Awesome stuff!!! You two guys up in the tops of those big Cottonwood’s will be a beautiful memory when you’re a 53 year old guy that’s gotten FUBARED a couple times pretty good and can’t do it anymore!!! Man do you miss the climbing!!!! Enjoy the hell out of it while you’re up there hanging in the sky boy’s!!!! Enjoy the hell out of it!!! Love everyone and always do that next right thing no matter how much it cost or hurts… it’s awesome going to work out great if you are always doing that next right thing!!! God Bless y’all and your families and youngsters and ladies!!!! Family and friends are all that really matters to having a rich life!!!
I just bought a four pack of the file guides, they are definitely the best quality file guides I have found recently. Most of the file guides on the market now are much softer than the files, which makes them essentially worthless. I’m glad I found this video for the brief explanation of the WCS file guide.
Gordy's got some fine trucks in there.
👍 Nice job- I always use the “depth gauge “ plate on my “depth gauge “ before I sharpen. That plate works great but....it crimps the freshly sharpened edge down a little bit. A true speed test to s to run 2 or three tanks of gas through a saw on each chain- then compare speeds. It’s the stay sharp duration of square filed where it really shows benefit. Great job!
Loved the big tree cut videos previously but I really love that you’re now a fully fledged content creator. It’s something I’ve been thinking about and your bravery to step out is inspiring to me all the way over in Australia. Thanks for being a legend Jake!
Hay Jake congratulations on the new channel im sure your be back to where you left the last channel in no time lots of time editing will not go to waste good luck
Great video, even though I'm late in seeing it. My father taught me to use a round file for the gullet, and a 3-square file (triangular) for the chisel face. He was a tool & die maker, so he used files of all varieties, every day, and also sharpened anything and everything that cuts. Still, I'm always open to trying things new to me, so I'll try the double bevel file this winter for a square cut. Thanks for sharing!
Put a bark box on my 462 and run 28" light bar. I tried out a full skip square ground chain and it was the easiest cutting I've ever experienced. Glad you brought up how changing the number of teeth can effect how the powerhead makes the saw move through the wood. I've been waiting for this video, I want to switch to square ground for all my chains but need to learn how. Thanks!
You had me at "superfluous gullet material"
My new favorite video and I Love how Jed listened to the saw. Glad I’m not the only one that does that. Wish there was more of these videos with Jed and Gordie but god had different plans for Jed.
I’m back here as well after hearing the terrible news. You will be missed Jed and God bless your family
I watch alot of your videos and to be totally honest I have learned a shit ton of stuff. And watching Jed with his falling video was like watching a surgeon. You guys all are extremely talented but that Jed fella is on another level of woodsmanship. Keep up the good work gentlemen. Stay safe and watch each other's six.
Wow you guys are Great, thanks for sharing all your Pro tips, it's really sad jed is no longer with us......k
You will be missed kind man
This video couldn't have come at a better time... watched every second.
Great and certainly entertaining video. Inspired me to bust out the diamond stones and sharpen knives while I watched...lol
Man, I’ve been waiting for a long time to sit down and watch this video, Jed thanks for sharing all your tips to square filing.
Me 48 seconds in: NEW CHANNEL? I’ve been waiting for weeks for a new video. Now I know why 😂
Jake, awesome video on Square grinding that you and Jed shared, really want to try this out. Thank you for the awesome content , you guys are awesome! 👌
There is nothing like having a really good friend... you know, Pal's who just want the best for you..
Hahaha I love the Elysian shout out then Jed putting the chain on backwards 🤣
Haha yeah that’s my favorite part 😂
I watch buckin billy ray, ironhorse tinman an west coast saw all 4 channels are fantastic you guys give us viewers great knowledge these videos are fantastic!!!
I remember the old vid Jake. If my memory is any good after you and Jed did the math, square ground was at least 10% faster on the cut. Jed was so happy that the old loggers reasoning had been validated.😁
I think it was 40% faster than the stock chain when we did the math. I remember I got 15% faster cuts just removing a little gullet too
@@GuiltyofTreeson I stand corrected on my memory of the math sir. That was the most in depth and detailed video of that subject that I've ever come across. I love the effort you guys put into teaching and exploring all of the details. Stay safe and wishing everyone and their families the best. 😁
@@GuiltyofTreeson I stand corrected on my memory of the math sir. That was the most in depth and detailed video of that subject that I've ever come across. I love the effort you guys put into teaching and exploring all of the details. Stay safe and wishing everyone and their families the best. 😁
@@GuiltyofTreeson Jedi did 4 chains for me ... 2 hand filed and 2 ground , 20 and 24 bar respectively. Thru wny hardwoods they were about 10-12% faster than my best round filed chain. Maybe you guys get 40% improvement on the left coast but those trees are made of cheese 😀 .... kzhead.infoMNNDUY0-Wn4?feature=share .... Jedi is on the bottom
@@GuiltyofTreeson I love your channel and content…imo though if it takes 3 times longer to sharpen a chain than less than half faster isn’t worth it…after working all day I’d rather sharpen my chains in 30 mins instead of 1-1/2 hours…I just used the thirty minute number to make the math easier. Like said great content keep it up 👍 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you guys! I can’t find anywhere else on KZhead that has ever touched on the relative filing effort required when running the chain forward as opposed to backward. Bravo on such groundbreaking content. How about a show about the relative performance of cutting with the choke on and off?
To be clear, just joking. Awesome show!!!! Serious about the choke thing.
I have always sharpened my new chains, with an electric sharpener. and then touched them up with a file. I'll take more out of the gullet from now on. Thanks guys! made me want to grab a six pack and top a tree🥴🪓🪚
I can’t believe you put an edit in gordys cut so we couldn’t time it. Unbelievable 😂. Awesome video none the less. Jed and Gordy have a ton of knowledge, what a pleasure to work with them.
I'm still a little confused about the different angles and shapes of the teeth, but it's ok. I just loved seeing you Jed back together. And Gordy is pretty awesome too. I like the vibes of the new channel. Keep it going
I wish I knew Jed. He seemed like such a genuine man. God has a funny way of taking the best of us too soon, in my opinion. I think they are too good for this world.
good job jed , not every one knows to file into the tooth with a triangle file
I do residential tree work and lovvvve you guys videos I have tried this in my own stuff definitely an art that happens over time of doing over and over again thanks for sharing your knowledge
Been watching you 2 for at least 18 months, you are one of the reasons why I changed my job here in the UK. If you 2 don't start your own tree company or subcontracting or something to that matter you're missing a trick lol have fun lads 🤙
I was already in love with this guy when I saw him do the Chiswell holding wood tree twister notch cut in the other tutorial video.
Rip all the trees In heaven Jeb we loved you buddy...
What a joy to watch, thanks treeson and jed. Ya’ll are inspiring.
It’s time consuming but worth it. I’ve been square filing by hand for about 8 years. Another note on skip vs full comp: With full comp you have more teeth sharing the work. Thus, they will stay sharper longer, but when it comes time to sharpen, there are more teeth to sharpen. The rakers can also be run a little shallower
Which file do you use?
@@GuiltyofTreeson Double bevel for my 3/8 chains. Triangle/hex for my 3/8 low profile picco chain on my climbing saw
@@GuiltyofTreeson yes, I run square ground/filed chain on my climbing saw. Speed is safety.
@@gumwap1 i don't think there's anything wrong with square picco, because the only time ANYONE does it, its very deliberate and you know the risks! I just hate when square chains cut after even one tooth has been hit.
@@terryrothgeb1684 the good news is that when climbing, I’m much less likely to encounter anything that will damage my chain. That’s another way justify square picco.