"Everything I Knew About Coaching For 50 Years No Longer Exists In College Athletics" - Nick Saban
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Nick “I can’t compete when recruiting is fair so I retired” Saban.
Saban talking to a governing body who will literally do anything for money
Saban lying to the government. He cares about him. Don’t get it twisted
And Saban won’t?😂😂
@@collinmacdo12that exactly why he speaking cause now everyone can offer players money not just him
@@collinmacdo12 Saban has a skill set that is useful to other people..... Ted Cruz is a grifter.
@collinmacdo12 they all do it, it's not a laughing matter when politicians do it.
Our government has nothing better to do than discuss NIL. We live in a clownshow.
Nick Saban went to them. It wasn't just him. Their addressing the issue of the people, and if you followed it at all... You would see how this affects the world.
@@jakechecolinski5929the world bro 😂😂😂😂
@@jakechecolinski5929 Yeah, definitely more important than debilitating geopolitical concern, the coming economic collapse, or fixing the border. The world is waiting to see how we handle paying adults in this country. Saban is just mad that he lost one of his competitive advantages.
You saying the NIL is a global concern or crisis is wild, Jake. C'mon man! @@jakechecolinski5929
How does this affect the world. Oh, typical merican; this is the world. Congress is a clown show with the media being the conductor. Simple minds being distracted with $h1t that doesn't matter. @@jakechecolinski5929
Nick is angling to be first commissioner of College Football.
And a majority of cf fans would vote for him to be so
id love that
That would suck
@tylercrawford3483 college football turning into unregulated pro football sucks too.
Bye 2028
We are quick to forget that the reason we are where we are is because the big schools like Alabama and Ohio St were paying players to go to their school under the table for years giving them unfair advantages. Then it suddenly became legal for everyone to do and got out of hand. If the NCAA had stepped in years ago we wouldn’t have this problem. It might take a little but I’m confident this isn’t the final evolution of NIL. We are just at its worst part right now
and now hes crying
“The game I love changed” “Only I should be making millions” 😂😂
He's making even more in retirement.....but haters gonna hate
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Shows how ignorant you are
@@tbryant8058 yeah but with money comes control, before you could basically be threatened to not play, ruin your reputation to scouts, and more just by a coach having that authority over you. Now that they get paid it’s the other way around.
As long as he had all the control he was good. He's such a baby.
Joel Klatt nailed it. Pat yall need to watch that clip on his show. He said the ncaa needs to create contracts for players. It's the easiest way to make all parties happy
Yeah but at that point the line starts to get blurred between collegiate sports and just pro sports, I think they need to do like what the nba does with the g league. Make them an actual pro league for people pre-league age, and make it all official. That way we don’t have to deal with this grand standing about the “purity” of the game. If you wanted it to be pure you shouldn’t air 3 commercials between each down.
@@nicolascaballero1320it’s too late. Can’t put toothpaste back in the tube. They’re not only making money for profit, especially these bowl committees and the NCAA multiple $100k fines, they’re trying to truthfully justify their usefulness & purpose. Truth is the NCAA, conferences & bowl committees are becoming obsolete. NIL cuts them out of their ability to make money. Fox apparently having a deal with Caitlyn Clark makes the school, division, conference etc irrelevant.
I think Titie 9 laws keep that from happening.
Communism
Wouldn't work. All players are not equal. Some make over a million. Most probably less than 100k. Who is gonna negotiate the contracts? Do contracts still allow for the players to make money off advertising deals and partnerships with car dealerships etc.? Way too many variables.
I find it hilarious the framing of this argument, making out parents and players as greedy for wanting their cut. When the NCAA and the universities have been making millions off these players. One of the biggest lies ever uttered, that the universities cannot afford to pay players. But are now fighting who can pay players the most.😂
Yet again you clearly didn’t watch…he has no issue with players getting paid…however he has an issue with players being taken advantage of and switching schools every year
It’s a reason the NFl has rookie pay scale, if your good the money is coming anyway. You need to focused on ya talent, do you wanna be the man on a college campus for 3 to 4 years or set ya self up for life.
It's not really the schools that are paying though. Funds are coming directly from outside the university to pay them, like a used car dealer paying to have a player in the commercial. Most schools don't have the money to pay directly, but the market for money to flow to players has always been there regardless of pre NIL.
@@zombiejelly4111he has a problem with other teams having the same advantage his team has had for decades😂 no wonder he quit
@@THE_DEEZLEyep its why the coaches dont go pro or fail majority of the time
I too would be upset about losing free labor.
Somebody didn’t actually watch the video…
@@austinmcbarner6648 I heard Saban complain about how players are now focused on their pay more than what he had to say, as compared to when they weren’t being paid.
Right 😂😂😂
How is college football free labor? It is where players go to work towards the NFL
@@pepsgaming2691 coaches making millions and the ncaa making billions before NIL. It was free labor.
You can’t tell me Alabama wasn’t paying people 😂😂😂
What he meant to say is "all the use and abuse I've been able to do to all these players for the past 50 years to benefit me financially no longer exist"
In 1997 when Tom Osborne won his third National Championship, he was making $250 000 a year. Phil Fulmer won a National Championship the following year, and he would get a contract for over a million dollars per season. If I remember correctly, he was the first college coach to ever be paid over a million a year, and it has continued rising from there. One of the biggest changes in College Football in the past 20 years is that now you have head coaches being paid $10 and $11 million a year. Even crappy coaches are getting $5 or $6 million. I don't remember Saban complaining about those changes.
FACTS
So what. You are an idiot if you don’t think there is a problem with NIL. To many players are transferring every year and all of them only care how much they can get paid. It’s a huge problem. Most of these kids don’t even deserve what they are getting paid. And they are getting all this money as very immature young people that will blow it or do stupid things with it. Don’t be an idiot.
He only rebuild the entire campus and ended up bringing in billions to the university. So yeah, he was probably underpaid
@@chickenandwaffles09yeah brought billions to the college and also thinks the players deserve non of it. Make that make sense.
@chickenandwaffles09 pea soup for a brain
I like how coaches could up and leave a program after players committed to the school, but now that players can move, coaches are having a hissy fit. Welcome to the player's lives after you screwed them oove for more money and left after they committed.
The worst thing you can do to a young man is give him an ego and money
@@Ljm488now that is a sweeping generalization lmao.
@@aa134368 ancient Chinese proverbs seem to agree with me on this one, but what do they know about wisdom
Look at Washington State University, the coach just left.
The worst thing you can do for coach and give a bunch of free money @Ljm488 .
Isn't it just so ironic? Let's be real, how many of these coaches have ditched groups of players they supposedly care about for bigger contracts elsewhere? And now they're quick to criticize when players can do the same. Total hypocrisy, if you ask me.
Thank you
What in the world does the government have anything to do with College Football?
Government should be protecting citizens..eos
Universities are publicly funded.
Nick Saban went to them. He asked them for help. Do your fact checks first?
@jakechecolinski5929 the fact that the government wasted time when it's citizens are getting fucked is enough...you miss the point, comrade.
@@jakechecolinski5929Saban going to them doesn’t answer OP’s question. That’s how, but it doesn’t answer the why.
Saban got out the game cuz he no longer had an advantage. Theyve been paying for play forever. Now he wants to speak on fairness. Wouldnt surprise me if he came back when the playing field is even.
“They’ve been paying for play forever” Yes you are correct. Along with my school and yours. And everyone else’s. We all did it stop acting like your school is lily white.
When Eric Dickerson left SMU for the NFL he took a pay cut.
That was 40 years ago dude
@@dhud5 😆
@@dhud5 'Doesn't make it not true.' - A dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude
Lmao man AJ looked so uncomfortable for abt 1minute😅
It was the Ohio State comment. Because who knows what the real deal was with the OSU machine back then.
Mr. Ohio is safe 😉
Es ssssssss
AJ never has any clue whats going on. Once you realize tiny hampsters are running circles in his brain what little there is you realize what AJ is. A major meathead
That fact he’s setting next to worthless teddy Canadian Cruz tells me everything I need to know 😂😂😂
That's Raphael to you.
Cancun Cruz, here in Houston we hate that douche
Coaches are fleeing the game for the League, and why not, pull a Jimbo, get a decent contract, blow it big time and cash out, or like Chip Kelly coaching like he wants
It's a much tougher gig when everyone can pay players above the table and that giant competitive advantage disappears
@@bones2427are you saying players didn't deserve to be paid "under the table" but now that's it above the table they do deserve it?
@@jelly7310 Not for me to decide. The NCAA is the most unique in that the governing body and the schools can make a huge profit but not the players. That doesn't happen in sports outside of this one entity. I do think Saban flamed out in the NFL (as do most coaches trying to jump to pros) where all the players get paid, not just certain recruits, like was happening prior in NCAA. Plus you add in transfer portal.. Not surprising he's acting like it's not good for everyone when it definitely didn't benefit him.
“These poor people can’t handle money. We better not give them any”
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@@jlitakatheicon9005 I watched the video and put my comments in quotes meaning I was pretending to be one of the people against NIL…..do I need to break the joke down further for you?
“IM NOT A BIG FAN OF THE GOVERNMENT!”
30 on 30
Who cares
Government is run by oligarchs... So I am on board with that. American capitalism in this form. NOT A FAN.
No one loves the government. Even people who staunchly support the government hate the government.
I'm from the government and I'm here to help
Politicians are repulsive
its spelled parasites*
They got free labor and advertising for 50 years. Damn them.
"They" lol, we they played the cards they were dealt and those cards gave us some pretty sweet college games over the years. Not so much now.
@chillones9574 played the cards they were dealt? They're the dealer, the had full control and made billions.
@@chillones9574 yeah, you're full of ish
@@malikwilliams8643funny as a parent of 4, 3 boys, I know first hand I not the dealer lol good one though. Can treat them fair but not the same.
@@chillones9574 The "they" im talking about is the NCAA, I'm not calling the parents the dealer.
Being honest they can have contracts, but the coaches will have the edge. Ask coach how he got those car dealer ships, off the backs of the players
Oatmeal cream pie dipped as soon as it got even 😂
😂😂😂 The small ones. The big one have too much sugar.
@@sshawnbr3 dudes like 80 open up a big one man
I think the issue is how much of a "zero to 100" situation it was. It was basically against the rules to buy an athlete a ham sandwich a few years ago and over night they were allowed millions of dollars practically uncapped moving forward. Some of these athletes went from never having a job/income source due to their dedication to honing their athletic skills so outside of familial allowance probably didn't have much personal money and suddenly went to signing a piece of paper and having millions of dollars overnight without anyone to guide them with fiscal responsibility. I'm all for Athletes getting paid especially NCAA football and basketball players who drive so much money into the school but maybe there should be tiered deal/packages. No personal agents making custom deals. Just a uniform 5 star deal, 4 star deal, 3 star deal, 2 star deal, and 1 star deal. Everyone knows where they stand and uniform contracts might hopefully limit individual players and families having their exact circumstances exploited. I have no idea how these numbers would work out but hypothetically lets say a 5 star is $500,000 a year independent of non-school related brand sponsorships, 4 star is $350,000 a year, 3 star is $200,000 a year, 2 star is $75,000 a year, 1 star is $40,000 a year. All just accounting for school funds so getting a sports drink deal or some sponsorship with a car dealership somewhere near campus is totally up to the athlete and that company.
I really like this idea. From the start, I’ve agreed with the idea of NIL but hardline disagree with its implementation. Naturally, I’m saying that because I’m not a 5-star 18 year old recruit, I’m a 27 year old contractor, but there needs to be SOME kind of regulation put in place so that an 18 year old that’s never had more than a lick to his name isn’t getting $2.5M in two years.
@@cameronjuntti4749genuine question: would you have a problem with an 18 year old getting $2.5M in 2 years if it was in a non-predatory way and they had access to financial advisors and financial instruments to ensure they had every opportunity to make that money last? I personally don’t agree with putting a limit on any player’s earnings ceiling-if a player can blow their knee out in their senior year and blow their path to the NFL with it, they should be able to earn every penny they can
That can't work, because you are treating this as if it's payment by an employer. It's not. The colleges still technically pay nothing. The NIL ruling just means athletes are now allowed to sell their brand, which virtually everyone is allowed to do anyway. All NFL athletes will have many NIL deals going on seperate to their NFL contracts. So legally speaking, how can you suddenly tell athletes they can only sell their own personal brand - of which the surpreme court just ruled they have complete control of - for an amount set by the colleges, which don't technically pay them anything. Completey illegal and if anyone tried they would get sued and slapped around in court.
@@mysteryhombre81 Yeah you're 100% correct. I guess I was just saying that instead of revising this current situation which I admittedly don't know much about if I could start from scratch and implement a system that I think removing agent brokered individual contracts and the possibility for every year the top recruit wanting more money than last year's top recruit until you wind up with 17-18 year olds signing massive legal documents for hundreds of millions of dollars. Having the school foot the bill might also incentivize the athletes to stay in school for 4 years, get a degree and potentially not transfer every year. I'm not a big college sports guy or finance lawyer or anything though and literally just wrote up my gut reaction idea as I thought it. lol.
*BREAKING NEWS:* "Rich football coach who made $9 Million a year, has a net worth of $99 Million, and spent the last 50 years rigging College recruiting, runs to Congress to whinge about poor athletes making $9,000 a year (on average)." what a forking clown. 🙄
Nick said ”everyone can get elite slaves and I can’t have that” lmao 😂
Nah there’s plenty of evidence he genuinely cares about the players. Alabama was never going to have a problem retaining talent. He just wanted to be able to help these kids grow into men.
@@Codeezey yea you believe that lol.
@@CodeezeyAnd water is wet. 😂
These kids are still getting good life lessons with NIL, for example work hard hone your skill set and be able to be compensated properly from a multi-billion dollar business.
I think NIL needs to be regulated more in terms of how the money is given to young athletes. Like a certain amount of $ put aside for life after college.
It would be interesting to see a certain amount of the money that the team makes has to go to the students who are on the team at the end of the year. With a min % going to each player, like 0.5%-1% then all players privately vote on who should get what then just average it all out.
Definetly there should be a scale . . .but also incentive based etc. . .
I love new MotherTheresa Saban like he isn’t famous for oversigning his roster then cutting players. College coaches (like Saban) are asking adults with a sought after skill set to perform dangerous tasks to win advertising dollars that pay their (in Sabans case) 8 figure salary. To prohibit those adults from asking for compensation for their services should be an anti-trust violation.
Hey buddy , every school processes out players.
No school pulled more schollys than ole sab nick
Also he says this like Alabama wasn’t paying players/recruits cash under the table
Oversigning is, and always has been, a myth. There’s no such thing. There are rules in place to prevent it. Saban actually cares about college football.
Seriously Saban was cut throat. He took Jalen Hurts out of the game in front of his family during the national championship.
Aka “I don’t have full control and I can’t handle it”
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Damn Bots 😂
Almost can’t even communicate down here anymore lmao
Facts
A multibillion-dollar business where Saban is being paid 10s of millions, pretty thick crust to say you want to go back to slave labor. It is up to college football and not the government to create a business with a players union agreement on how the money is distributed. The only rule that exists now is you are not in the collage, you flunked out, you cannot play. The teams paying the most have the most money for coaches and player support, the MAC team or lower division, without the money it is business as it used to be and probably a lot of players are not getting paid at all.
Saban didn't say anything about going back to slave labor or the way it used to be you bot. It's also spelled college, not collage.
lol slave labor…
Hundreds of thousands in free college tuition for many whom can barely spell their own name 😊
Saban didn’t say that at all…you clearly didn’t watch the video or listen to any words coming out of his mouth. HE SAID PLAYERS SHOULD BE PAID
Look who his allies are. That tells me enough of whose side I need to be on in this discussion.
This is such a good thing and talk!!!
I have a friend that played corner at Alabama and all he talked about is how much Saban taught him and cared about the guy. And actually got him a job after his career ten years later.
Really?? I have a friend that was a player as well. He said he was the worst.
@keystorm8598 be real dude
I bet he wasn’t making millions at that job …hypocritical to make millions off people for years and now he crying because he isn’t in god mode anymore.. this might be the only chance some of these kids ever get to change their LIFE
@@keystorm8598 I'm sure there are many on both sides. I just know beyond what he had to do for him "football wise" he really looked out for him when there was nothing in it for him.
@@casherj1 Yeah its exact opposite from what i heard. He showed me team pic and everything. A true horror story from him and another team mate he's still cool with. At some point if multiple people are saying the same thing i mean 🤷♂
I honestly think that saban knows that the recent president is going to call into question his own career/ investigation into large universities for the exact reason he said he was retiring.
How hard is it to understand that all you have to do is make it to where a player can make money off their own name! Not make it to where colleges are bidding for players basically that makes it a semi pro league
Thank you!!!! For gods sake at least one other person gets it. All these morons commenting on how Saban hates players making money when he’s been advocating for NIL! Some of these glue eaters don’t even know what the acronym NIL even stands for
Absolutely . Great topics of the longterm future of players should be public knowledge between college level teams like the NFL draft .
"Everything i did behind closed doors in now in light and ever coach is on the same playing field now... i dont know how to handle it some ima retire and cry for attention" basically the jist of it. Thx for that 03 chip though
You can pay the players and still develop them both are a realistic thing that can happen ….saban is basically saying that people that have a job shouldn’t be paid is just weird.🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Lol someone didn’t watch the video😂
The real truth is everyone is upset to see young black men finally being compensated for athletic services. Come on people let's not be shy about it!😂
He basically said he do t agree with paying slaves to play
No, that’s just your low IQ and comprehension of what he said telling you something you want to believe. Saban is not against paying players, he never was.
Always a dumb take of college athletes being compared to slaves.
@@chrischreative2245 idk pro combine sure do look similar to auctions
A few comments I wish you would discuss - several years ago Saban supported NIL but said, “ the rich (schools) will get richer”…and the others? - would any of you hand a 17-18 year old $500k+ for a Lambo? Should some $ be in escrow ? - what happens when that kid deals pot, commits robbery, sexual assault, drives drunk and kills people? - non profitable athletics will be able to to be funded ( interview Greg Byrne, ALs AD) - should players pay tuition, room/board, health care, councilling, trainers, workout fees themselves with their new $? - are there agreements that paid players must stay more than 1 year? How many D1 players are starters with enough skills in Freshman year?…many are 4-5 stars in HS that had poor competition, right? I wish someone would go back 5-7 years and track 4-5 stars collegiate history..then 2-3 stars that end up as NFL success stories, never getting any NIL or were walkons Love the show
So pay them money then take it all through making them pay for everything. What happens when a coach cheers on his wife and wrecks his motorcycle with his mistress he hired and the school was paying her? Oh yeah, he gets fired with pay. Then he goes and gets more coaching jobs. And if the athlete's mess up, they get what? Another genius idea of how to screw the people doing that acrual work.
What a loser. Profit off the kids for 20 years and now as soon as they start getting some profit off themselves he quits and goes to capitol hill
What an idiotic take
Saban is anything but a loser.
he said 'some profit' like they're not making millions
That's the wrong outlook. College football has changed so much in recent time. And there no rules on how used Nil. So what he retired. His kinda up there in age. But Nick has a point on the whole issue.
I love Saban… but he has no point he is a teacher making 100 mill a year off his student work… as soon as his student starts to get paid it’s a problem wow… without football these colleges would look like highschools because football pays for all the fancy buildings and books… the only problem they have is transfer portal just fix that and ncaa be good make it so they have to sit a year if they transfer more then 1 time…
Okay… that’s kind of how things go throughout time. I don’t like it, it’s weird I know. But things grow/ change/ evolve/ get better with time…. I understand what he’s trying to get to at the core of it but you can’t cheat somebody for decades and then get mad when they want some equality, let alone a percentage of what the big corporations were making. That’s like being with somebody , cheating and then getting mad, upset and offended when they cheat on you. They’re just following your lead.
I think what Nick is saying is pay the athletes but let's put some guidelines to it...that does seem pretty reasonable.
I found one of the only people on the internet with common sense. That’s exactly what he’s saying. He’s been a longtime advocate for players making money he’s just against the way that it was rolled out with 0 regulations or rules
@@jasonbrown097 What guidelines did he have for his pay and changing jobs?
Saying kids are more mature because of social media is the most contradicting statement I’ve heard Pat say in a while 😂
You must not have kids. They have access to information, social interaction and develop at a much faster rate than ever. I couldn’t do or comprehend nearly as much as my sons did at their younger ages
@@Bman32xall of that development isn’t positive
A teacher making about $12 million a year.
Hard to get 100k people plus millions more on television to watch a math lecture.
Saban , Smart , Sark and a few others are worth way more than what they get. Saban was worth to Alabama WAY more than $10 million a year.
@@litedawgMore, that was just his salary with Alabama. Your average D1 coach has 3-4 revenue streams, I wouldn’t be shocked if it was closer to 20 Million a year.
Saban sure did throw Miss Terry under the bus atleast what I took away from it was before she'd ask if the family needed a new house, car, etc they will take care of them to the family making the demands and they don't wanna hear it 🤣🤣
I'm the rare Auburn fan that liked Saban at Bama. I know without any doubt that without him at Bama, Auburn probably doesn't have 2 BCS title appearances, 1 BCS national title, 2 sec titles, 3 sec west titles, 1 undefeated season, 1 heisman winner, 2 heisman finalists, and the greatest one-year turnaround in the history of NCAA fbs football. Without a doubt it's the greatest one year turnaround In SEC history by a mile. Him being at Bama forced Auburn to either get to work or be forgotten. For the most part, they raised the bar. Most years they were better than their record. No other teams in the history of college football had or have harder schedules more often than Auburn from 2008 till now. No team has Bama, LSU, UGA every single year.
real hard to take him serious when he was making 10 mil a year. He never cared about anything but winning and cashing checks.
If you don't know what you're speaking of....just STFU, lol. You're so wrong...
Facts
They need a salary cap for head coaches and assistant coaches
There’s no reason the players should cap their earnings. That’s government overreach
It’s about control. It’s not about kids being taken advantage of. Kids graduate high school and go pro in the MLB & NHL, and no one is saying those kids are being taking advantage of.
11:19 i think this should just be what the pay for all the athletes is minus the 25% future earnings. I think 100k a year, tuition if needed, and no mortgage payment instead a bonus amount that can differ up to 500k to help recruiting. 100k a year is a lot of money still for an 18 year old. Especially in bama
Man forget that bull. It leveled the playing field and he couldnt stack players anymore. Botrom line
What about a structured salary system like a salary cap the more years you attend to college the more money you have a chance to make. Sort of like a freshman cap.
So they get guaranteed 4 or 5 years of school paid for?
@@Matt-ru5rwthat costs the university nothing
NIL license to be able to sign student athletes and that license has a licensing agency that has rules and regulations to stay licensed and periodic inspections on signing process and audits of contracts
Just think of this; A college Football coach whining about student athletes getting paid for their work on the football field has had more time on the house floor than the parents of the 18 children killed in Uvalde. Come on America .
“Capital Hill “
Capital HILL
some ideas to fix below. 1. team salary cap decided by each conference for players who touch the field during the year. 2. team salary cap for developing players not touching field decided by conference. 3. All money for players put into trusts that players have access to upon graduation. 4. if player transfers colleges prior money earned in trust is voided from previous college. What this will do: 1. Reward players for their effort and value 2. Encourage development of younger players for future classes from coaches 3. Increase player retention by college, disincentivise players leaving programs for future earning forfeited. 4. create a even playing field amongst conferences
Same for coaches also, correct? If they leave they don't get any golden parachutes or buyouts for leaving and actually they have to pay back all the money they were paid because they left before the contract was up. You good with that?
Billion dollar TV deals. Schools making literal fortunes. Coaches being paid over 10 million a year. NCAA making profit off players claiming free education is all they deserve from it. Nothing but a bunch of hypocrits. Without those players these schools make ZERO money.
Nick Saban left coaching worth about 100m. It is good that he supports the players in college getting paid for their risks they take every practice and every game. 50 years of coaching he says and he's never seen it like this. And I have no doubt he is correct, because it has never been like this. Kids are now entering college and seeing it as a job, and maybe the only job they'll ever have a chance to be good at. The chances of even the best College players making it in the NFL are slim, part of coaching college football now much include educating the students on how to get the most out of their NIL and what to do with that money. With how much it costs to be a student now, and how non athletes are destroying their lives with debt trying to get an education it is harder and harder to believe that anyone in the Universities care about any but a select few on the campuses. Every other student is a paycheck.
I wish i government took uap as seriously as they are taking this
Dick Saban is just pissed he lost to Michigan.
NIL = name, image, likeness. If someone can profit off of their name. They should be able to. Paying someone, whom no one knows their name, a million dollars to come to your school, before that school has made a single dollar off of your name? Yeah that has notbing to do with name, image, or likeness. Thats a signing bonus😂
Good luck proving it's not for NIL. Colleges aren't handling the money directly. Local businesses and boosters/alumni are paying it out.
If you go four deep at every position on both sides of the ball, that’s 88 players. What players are being paid should be normalized across every school meaning the NCAA should set an overall player salary limit. The player salary limit should distributed among the players in a tiered approach. For example, let’s say the annual salary limit is set at $10 million. With 88 players, that divides at an equal amount of $113,636.36 per players but some players are obviously worth more than others. So, you tier the pay system. Each team should be allowed a certain amount of $500k players, a certain (slightly higher) amount of $250k players, a certain (slightly higher) amount of $100k, and so on until the amount of the cap is reached. Then, players can negotiate coming in. They can say “either play me in the next higher tier or I’ll commit to someone who will” and coaches can either agree or say “I’m sorry, but that tier is full at the moment but we can reevaluate your tier at the beginning of the next season to see about moving you up then”. This approach would allow players to get paid, give coaches more bargaining chips during recruiting than just money and allow for a more even distribution of talent across all schools.
Time to reinvent the wheel, coaches. The ones who will figure it out first are the ones who will results in Ws and Championships. Old heads are crying because their old ways aren't working anymore lmao There's no other way to teach young kids about money than allowing them to have it, spend it, waste it, etc.
And how many times have you filed for bankruptcy?
What saban is arguing for is letting all the colleges reap in big money and leaving the players that earn it for them are left in the cold. F-that. He certainly did not say that coaches should be paid a pittance. Give me a break.
Yeah that's not what he said but you might be dumb and it's really hard to tell from just a comment.
Are you brain dead? Thats not even remotely close to what he said. I swear society is getting more dumb by the day when it comes to understanding basic English.
question, since there is the NIL, should we do away with college scholaships and say sorta like the " old days " pick the college you want to go to, see if you pass the entrance requirements if so good but , if you decide to transfer to another school you must sit out a year, then you play after that year, and since you are getting money from NIL now you have to pay to go to school no more free ride so to speak, be like any other student. college is the ONLY PLACE to play, baseball has the minors, basketball has other forms besides the NBA, but not football, maybe the NFL needs to start some form or farm team for players to go if they dont go to college,
If the coaching and universities were so good at molding and teaching this players life lessons, why do a lot of them make terrible financial decisions and find themselves in trouble with the law so often?
Just because you try and teach someone how to be finically responsible and be a good person doesn’t necessarily mean all of them will listen… that’s not the coaches or universities fault that’s on the grown ass man that made terrible decisions when they were taught not too
Nick you been buying athletes 😂
You mean having players receive basic compensation for the immense value they bring schools? Not being able to over recruit, and let dozens of incredibly talented young men waste away on your bench? Players actually having an avenue to pursue opportunities elsewhere if they don't enjoy getting abused? Or is it the "neo-plantation" mentality he misses? The exact words used by the man who built the system. Walter Byers if you don't believe me.
I swear, you clowns have no idea what you’re talking about.
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I think you allow them the ability to make money off their likeness, endorsement etc, and maybe get a portion of things like jersey sales etc. Contract guidelines etc Unionized type pay structures for any NCAA players.
Come on coach Saban, Alabama has been giving players they wanted money under the table but now that the players deserve to be paid and it’s fair competition you got scared
While I always believed players should make money in college and the NCAA were scam artists for basically banning players from making money while on scholarship, the way NIL is currently, is just a complete zoo. I thought NIL would be players gettin a chance to make money signing autographs, making appearances etc. but it’s basically just boosters and schools in a bidding wars and it’s terrible. May sound bad, but schools need a cap on how much they could spend on players 🤷🏽♂️
Everyone knew this would happen. Throwing money at recruits was the whole reason people fought NIL for years. Players think they can make the money and then they don’t put in the work to be better anymore because they don’t have to be.
Boosters. The biggest problem in it all.
@@ashtonchapman2613 So who are the people that work hard for big money since you seem to think everyone who gets paid big money is lazy. Except the richest owners obviously because you believe they somehow worked hard for their money. But please, explain to me why the poors need incentives.
If you want to make it fair put a cap on the coach's pay. They should not be making 10 million a year coaching college.
For decades, coaches at schools like Alabama would over-recruit every year and stash players without ever planning to play them - they just wanted to keep them away from Auburn and Georgia. So kids would be HS stars and never get on the field in college once in 4 years. And they wouldn't let them transfer, because keeping them off the field was the whole point.
Says the guy making $11.7 million last year. Go Pound Sound.
This dude made over 120 million at Alabama alone. Come on Saban, get real.
Money in politics, money in sports: money becomes more important than politics or sports. The end product is lousy politics and sports. In each case the money is from the very rich and powerful being able to run the game.
Cruz - Deregulate XYZ, Also Cruz - We need to regulate college football to keep the labor really really cheap
God forbid people make money from their talent. Historic programs and coaches have lost their ability to hold and control the destiny of young athletes, while they themselves are making millions as coaches. No more gate keeping.
That's not what he is saying. He is not against money. But, if money is all you care about, what are you going to learn at school or how are you going to become a better a person.
All the Sports that cost the schools a small fortune and lose money need to be cut!!!!!!!!! The guys who get NIL deals and suck, should have to pay it back.....You don't produce on the field, Money and Scholarships gone..This should be run like a business, You don't produce, See YA!!!!!!!
Brother man has clearly not paid attention to this topic or what Saban said 😂
@@mickcindysal6264 He doesn't like when people can just up and leave a job, is that it? Like he did multiple times?
@@learningcurve3212 So does that mean no golden parachute buyout for coaches when they suck and are fired? Or just the peasants who actually play the games?
You spelled "capitol" wrong in capitol hill.
capital hill is what schools are calling the pile of money it takes to bring in these players.
Can someone explain how NIL money is routed? So if let's say Chick-fil-A wants to pay a student-athlete for some IG posts or whatever, do they sign contract and pay the student athlete directly? Or do they sign a three way contract with student-athlete, company, and university, where the money goes from company to university, then university gives a percentage to student-athlete?
With the transfer portal in mind. If a smaller school finds a great player and develops them, the larger schools can poach them. If this happens, the larger schools should have to compensate the smaller school for the transfer. This would allow the smaller schools (I call them feeder programs) to remain competitive. What about doing something similar to the NFL with salary caps? This is a difficult topic!
Like junior colleges?
Coach just upset that he's not getting the recruits like he use to.
I agree that name and likeness should go to the player. Now the controversial part any other money should go to grants for the school Let’s lower the cost of college for everyone! Plus it’s good karma to give back the grant can be named after the player that earned the money
karma doesn't exist
Sports gambling has effected our country a lot
Along with corruption. Wars based on lies. Mass propagandizing to the masses from all political sides to make their party good and the others bad. Putting people against each other over really nothing..etc
Simple: Transfer Portal: A player can enter the portal once every other season no exceptions. NIL: Colleges are capped at x dollar amount for an overall ceiling. A NCAA Players Association will be created to administer the portals and dollar limit per college. "Don't come at me with problems - come at me with solutions."
The problem with that is colleges don't pay anything themselves. It's coming from collectives of boosters and local businesses. You can't cap something like that without reneging on what NIL is at it's core. Too late to put the worms back in the can.
Coaches have to stay how long, thr same?
Playing field became equal so he left.
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“Translate to English” lmao
I can guarantee you that none of those politicians hear a word he’s saying because they are all trying to figure out how to get to know Nick Saban more out of hopes of getting a gravy train job.
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Think instead of having individuals players sign a deal for money they should have each position get money based on if they are deemed as a starter and what position and just have it equal between each school in each conference and the money can go up or down based on what the conference TV deal looks like
First off, these guys don’t hold these meetings to oppose the money made by minors in the MLB, PGA, etc. This is NOT about the kids. It’s about the institutions and their ability to move forward with the status qui. Second, The solution for kids signing bad deals is simple. All NIL deals should be vetted and approved by the athletic department. School then should assume the liability is a guy signs a deal that came through their office and did not meet the established standard.
I was chewing gum while watching this and thought Pat could hear me ... 😂
name a job that doesn’t pay employees & supervisors at the same time 🤷🏽
So 5th graders should get paid aswell ??🤔
@@yallbeblessed 5th grader aren't making millions of dollars in revenue for their school.
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College football aint a job, it is just the next step to the NFL where the money is. Now kids have no reason to work towards the NFL thanks to the NIL, so eventually this NIL that is already ruining college football and basketball is going to ruin the future product of these sports
@@jorisoims3085 Ok. So 9th grade lol… yall sound f**kin dumb..
I don't think the issue is necessarily NIL but the transfer portal. That being said, the NIL needs to be revamped. It should be managed under a favored nation's format, where every player takes equal share. The best players can still be paid for personal endorsements, but they don't get to take a larger portion of the monies distributed by the boosters. Back to the transfer portal, anyone who transfers should have to sit for a season
Studies show that when a player transfers, they're 20% less likely to graduate. I'd imagine that's because many player who enter the portal won't get picked up.
Translation: 'As the coach, I don't have the upper hand any longer.. And for that reason, I'm out.'