New VW ID7 review: It's not what you think!
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Mat’s got his hands on the new Volkswagen ID7!
In the future, this all-electric saloon is set to replace the VW Passat. The question is, is it a worthy replacement?
Well, let’s take a closer look. Starting with the design, it looks relatively smart on the outside. There’s a sloped tailgate around the back with some cool taillights and a full-length light bar. Along the side, you’ll notice the contrasting roof and flush door handles, while around the front there’s another full-length light bar running between a set of matrix LED headlights. So it’s smart, but not exactly the most exciting!
It’s a similar theme on the inside. There’s a large infotainment screen on the dash, although annoyingly the majority of the climate control functions are managed with it. There’s a small digital driver display that holds just enough information for the driver, and the cabin is generally made of soft touch and nice quality materials. Don’t lean too far down, though, or you’ll find some cheap-feeling plastics!
The entry-level ID7 comes with a 77kWh battery pack which is good for a range of up to 384 miles. It also comes with a single electric motor which can deliver 286hp. In the future, there’ll be an 86kWh battery available which will be good for a range of up to 435 miles, and a dual-motor edition will also be released.
As for the price, the entry-level ID7 starts from around £51,500, and the car we have here for this video comes in at over £58,000! So is it worth it? Or would a Tesla Model 3 be a smarter choice? You’ll need to stick with Mat and see for yourself!
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:59 Design
02:12 Price
02:33 Interior
05:32 Back Seats
09:00 Boot
11:06 Batteries & Range
12:04 5 Annoying Things
15:06 5 Good Things
17:42 Town Driving
20:12 Motorway Driving
22:23 Country Road Driving
23:52 0-60mph
26:01 Verdict
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Matt why do you spend 30 seconds complaining about cheapened out buttons having only two buttons from the four windows yet when reviewing Teslas you say nothing about the lack of buttons. Also, you mention it as a negative that the vents are controlled by the screen, which is the same as in the Tesla, and you don’t say they copied the worst of Tesla. I guess my question is why bash other cars while praise Tesla for the same things?
Because these channels are no longer about the cars, they are about the money received from the car brands.
It's Volkswagen,it's born to be boring. Full stop right here.
Where’s the new Duster??
What happened to Toyota manipulating quality control and deceiving consumers for 34 years?
Where do manufacturers think we all work??? £58k for a Passat !!!!
All CEO’s
Problem is legacy were good at engines n their own personalities.With that USP gone this is just a expensive legacy brand which has nothing on newer entrants which give you quicker, better value car stuff better software n more modern tech. As Matt states here brake pedal fell is average, it's only good from point a to point B, average turning circle, average multimedia controls, Wind noise. Very very average VW for £58K
It’s not a Passat its more like a Phaeton with its length of almost 5 metres
Love my Subaru Legacy
@@binflydushy it's a Passat
Keep the reviews coming Mat. Was getting quite tired of the drag races.
😅💀 how about 60/40?
Couldn't agree more
It's only you who is tired
tired of German brand positive reviews
@@hassyg4083you too
Love that Volkswagen has made simply opening a window a two step process. Brilliant.
German over-engineering. Reminds me of that uboat where flushing the captain's toilet was a complex, multi-step step process and one mess up was enough to flood and sink it the ship.
Not saying the design is perfect but as someone who routinely opens the rear when I'm trying to open my window, VW might be on to something
This fucking windows never do what they should ..
@@nikolavukovic9790 i do this all the time as well, so this is not that bad of an idea
I have never lowered the rear windows of my ID.3. The biggest non-issue ever!
Car reviews take note.Hard Plastics are tougher and easier to wipe clean witch is why the put them at the lower end of the door bins, because of foot scuffs.
I don't agree with this. I've had cars with both hard plastic and the soft injection molded stuff or covered in fabric. The hard plastics retain scuffs and scratches. And I've seen this on other people's cars too. If something sharp or a hard shoe knocks the hard plastic panels, it leaves a scratch that can not be wiped out. It almost etches into it. Because it's hard. Like someone scratching the exterior of the car. The soft touch plastic is more yielding and almost absorbs the pressure of something being pressed into it. The soft plastics clean up so much better and look almost new compared to hard touch. It's why Mercedes and the like used it for decades and why their old cars looked so good even after decades. Their new cars are hard plastics and some 3 year old used models I've seen look downright awful with all the scratches and scuffs that doesn't come out.
It also does make the cars look Cheap and Like Toys. having a Full Body colored car is Elegant and Looks 100x Better. yes, there are Drawbacks. Personally, I think the Drawbacks of the Bisible Ugly plastic are Heavier than the Clean elegant painted look. The Volvo Cross Country Series Does make it Look good. but that's about it.
@@SDav21To me the best are the cars who used to have some kind of hard foam covered with vinyl. Its easy to clean, scratch resistant (hell the previous owner of my Audi 80 used to put two dogs in the back and i don't have any scratches on the doors) and its quite too for protecting you in case of impact (a lot of cars used this foam as a bumper on the steering wheel). I recently got into a impact accident with a more modern car and the dash was so hard it collided with my ankle quite hard!
Looks like I’m not the only one who prefers the car reviews over the drag races
No you're not. Ther is on more guy so you are 2
The drag races are super pointless, it's like people who think speeding on the highway is fast. Literally just pressing the gas and holding the steering wheel straight.@@C6Fever
I think the drag races are a lot of fun, but Carwow / Mat does do a good job on actually reviewing cars with honest opinions and good information on their strengths and weaknesses. This together makes this one of the best car related channels out there in my opinion.
these boring ass car reviews
Me too
Sustainability cars sure have unsustainable prices. 😅
That's the point. They want nobody to drive cars anymore. Can't afford an EV? Be happy and own nothing, peasant!
„you will own nothing and be happy“ - klaus schwab
Nothing sustainable about EV's, and they're the very antithesis of enviromentally friendly.
And terrible resale value and repair costs.
And they will basically be a 'total loss' after 8-10 years when the battery is done. Not very 'sustainable' at all!
I drove one of these yesterday (only for 15 min. though) and the two things that jumped out at me were the automatically adjusting headlights and how well the adaptive cruise control worked. I'm not used to current top-of-the-line cars, so maybe this is just standard now, but having the car automatically adjust to speed limits and slowing down for roundabouts w/o me touching the pedals was rather nice. Same for the headlights: set to "auto", they just do their thing: switching high-beams on and off and dimming parts of the light cone to avoid blinding oncoming traffic. Convenient. That said, the particular car I was in scratched the 70k Euro mark and that's just a crazy amount of money for ANY car that's supposed to be driven by average families. Statistically, that's more than two _YEARS_ worth of annual income for most people. For a car that's best described as comfy family sedan with reasonable range and unremarkable design. I don't care whether it's meant to be a Passat successor or if VW rather sees it as a BMW 5 series competitor - it's too bloody expensive period.
Have had our ID.6 for a year now. The adaptive cruise control works like a dream. The lane keeping function also makes driving so effortless and simple. Hopefully prices will come down. These ID. EVs in China sell for less than half the price in Europe.
Automatically adjusting to speed limits is great but occasionally it does not work and you are stuck at 30 in a 50mph zone. Yhen you have to turnit off temporarily.
Matt’s favourite line: “As you go down, things get a little bit scratchy”. 😳
if that distracts you from the glaring problems of this awful car, then we really are doomed lol
Morning Mr Tyler. Going... down... 😉
and VWexpect the replacement for the passat to start at £50k+ worlds gone mad
You can see that Matt is somehow lenient with this car. ID7 is a flop, nobody orders it. It's bland and without personality, doesn't say anything. I would never buy something like this. And in fact IT IS, extremely BORING.
And it's electric .. so it's a scam
the car is out since 2 months and it doesnt replace the passat
It's just ridiculous. VW are already struggling to sell this EV junk and this will be no different. As you said, you would have to be insane to consider one at even half that price.
@@lorandmatyas That doesn't even make sense.
Finally there's a new review, after he did all of those drag races, which I don't have anything against. But it's finally time for another review. Can't wait
Drag races are balls. Utterly pointless filler content.
Thanks for the video. I drove this and many other electric cars. And it is the most quiet car among all the competitors. I'm wondering how you didn't you noticed that
17:13 i laughed at the glovebox joke. nice one
The reason the safety systems turn back on (after you've turned them off) when you start the car again is because they're tied to the Euro NCAP safety rating. If they could be switched off and saved then the safety rating number would reduce, and presumably the insurance companies would know about it and premiums would be higher still. Its as simple as that.
Yeah. But annoying af
i am sure he knows that too. all cars now need that stupid safety stuff to get 5 stars. I am glad my ev is just over 12 months, old so I could turn that stuff off and it stayed off! phew...
In time there will be an aftermarket sub industry, like there was for engine remapping, of people that can hack the system and offer regaining control of your own car from the EU and disable stuff you don't want.
I doubt there is an EU regulation against a well-functioning voice control system where you'd easily be saying "disable all drivers assistance" upon starting. Either Matt didn't try this (but why the hell not?), or VW is delivering a product that is not fit for purpose (then no surprises here).
@@robc8593I hope so. But the integration that these cars have between all the subsystems mean the manufacturers will explicitly need to let us do it. Think game consoles or phones, they are pretty locked down and you need to “jailbreak” to really start modifying things.
Asking ChatGPT about Volkswagens fines whilst sitting in a Volkswagen is the most Matt thing ever! 😂
In the first 10 seconds of the video is very clear that Matt do not like the car a bit.
yes, here I noticed that british and germans are the same race. both not funny
Good review Matt. Very balanced journalism and informative. Not just surface level, but some background too.
What's with all this constant fussing about the materials being scratchy the further down you go? What should the area below knee height be lined with? Maybe with leather? And then complain about the price, right? Understood.
Already a pretty expensive car… shouldn’t be cheaping out unnecessarily
£50k+ for a dull VW family saloon? Absolute madness.
It’s as big as a 7 Series or S Class though
@@oliverstemp9132 On the outside, yeah close enough, but doesn't seem to translate to the room inside.
@oliverstemp9132 mate, it's like 5 inches shorter than the current 5 series.
@@benwu7980 how much more space do you need? What’s more impressive is it’s an EV that doesn’t push your knees up round your ears. For me, that puts it ahead of the Ioniq 6 and Model 3.
@@Shevabestfan the new 5 is a very big car. The point being the ID7 is bigger than all its competitors.
Seeing everyone's shock over the £58k Passat and the call for more reviews really puts things into perspective. 😲 It's wild how car prices have soared, making what used to be family staples into luxury buys. 🚗💸
VW are jokers, for 2K more you can have the stunning Kia EV6 with AWD and 576bhp, what loon would buy the Passat?
Everyone maker is off their meds pricing. They are going to fail like nothing we ever seen. There is no market for this!
@@rosen9425 The market will adjust as will the prices on these things start sitting around and taking up forecourt space they'll have to lower prices to move them on. What people need to do is actualy just stop buying new cars every 3-5 years and the market will be forced to adapt.
@@gravemind6536 I hope you're right, but I'm quite sceptical about it
No. Don't beat around the bush and lie. EV car prices. Not car prices. EVs are responsible for jacking up prices across the board.
My dad had a passat 1999, he just sold it this year. Used it for about 8 years. It was very strong but had water hearing issues
Thanks for not posting just another drag race, those have been way too common lately..
Finally, a review after all the drag races! Keep up the amazing work Mat and Carwow team!
Sub six seconds 0-60 - 'not bad' apparently. Remember when that was pretty much supercar pace?
its bedtime grandpa
Exacte my thoughts 😂
i still consider it super sporty.
Yeah, certainly more than fast enough in normal traffic. The car actually performed a noticeable amount better than claimed. They claimed 6.5 but it did a sub 6 seconds. I thought Mat could have been a bit more positive about that.
The 0-60 of the 1987 Mustang GT 5.0 V8 is 6.2 seconds. This car beats it and is "not bad". I get it, John.
Great review Mat! What’s the brand of the glasses / model you are wearing?
The interior is 10 times nicer than Tesla's Model 3.
The ID.7 isn't the replacement for the Passat - the Passat got a new version just a few weeks ago...
Atm it is probably the electric equivalent but in the future the passat will not exist cause of the engine. Then the id7 is the replacement i guess
At some point in the future (probably the next generation) the passat will go electric and the id7 will go away.
I think it's meant to the eventual Successor, once VW discontinues their petrol lineup.
@@grang-jc2ee VW EV's don't even account for 8% of their 2023 vehicle deliveries, and they've admitted they saw demand dropping even further. I don't think they're discontinuing their petrol vehicles anytime soon, as long as regulation allows. And once they do, I don't think you're gonna see Passat EV's (or any VW EV) around for much longer.
@@jimj2683That doesn't make sense. The Passat will go away, the ID models are here to stay (and to be developed further). For an efficent EV you need a special platform: And that's the MEB+ platform that is used by the ID7.
VW recently said they'll replace the ID.3 with the Golf name in the future. I hope they do that for the rest of the lineup - I'm so bored of the corporate number convention of naming cars. I want a Lupo not an ID.1; it just sounds so dull!
My thoughts on all such names. So uninspiring. However so are most of the designs which just copy and paste other cars from the lineup
In another statement they claimed that the next Golf would be smaller than the current ID.3. So the ID.3 might become the T-Cross.
it's called e-Up! not Lupo or ID.1
I don't think they'll do that. The EVs of VW are called ID.X. Golf will stay with combustion engine and hybrid and there will definitely be a Golf 9.
@@burgitech8643 I do belive that the ID naming will fall away by the time they phase out the ICE version. They can't call the ev version a golf, because they are different platforms. That would be misleading marketing. If there is no ICE version anymore, there can be a Golf full electric platform thus phasing out the ID naming scheme.
I look forward to your review of the refreshed ID3!
I bought it for about 28250 USD in China yesterday What an amazing price!!!!!!!
I am curious what Skoda will be allowed to do with this
Hopefully much better, this is pretty boring, wind nose, bad turning circle he says, average software and v expensive
Skoda wont get an electric SuperB, they forgot the cost cutting with the new ICE SuperB and added alot of dials and buttons. So many physical buttons that VAG will never recover :) My current Passat B8 lease is ending and iam seriously considering getting the SuperB this time because its the better car against the new B9 Passat...
@@ciybersal3499 Eniaq kinda fills this space for them. Based on the strategy so far, it looks like SEAT and Skoda got 1 Electric Car Each(Small form factor for Born and SUV for Eniaq) and kept the other form factors to VW themselves. I am waiting for Skoda Octavia Electric to upgrade from my Scala, but to be honest, VW EVs are lackluster to say the least. MG4 looks like much better value, and Atto 3 matches it in quality for 10k less. Obv the risk with chinese EVs is resale value and longetivity, but even outside of the Chinese bargain EVs, Hyundai EVs are far more interesting, with better drivetrains, Kia EV6 is an absolute beauty, Tesla 3 has the name recognition and is still a leading EV in many areas. There is simply no reason to go VAG for your EV. And I say that as a long time VAG Driver(Had everything from Polo to Passat, the Scala I have now is my first non VW VAG I owned).
@@ciybersal3499 I just don't understand how so many makers have the software stuff so poorly implemented. Aside from the fact that pretty much every reviewer and person I know prefers knobs or buttons or whatever call the vent direction controls to be physical, so many makers are putting them in sub-sub-menus, which can't really be a cost saving. With this id7 in particular, having to go into menu to turn off assists every time start the car, is simply ridiculous.
@@Rockport1911 The successor of the Superb will probably not be called Superb. It will probably follow some similar naming scheme to the Enyaq. Which I do find sad, the Superb is a very nice car and I like the name
That’s it, continue posting car reviews Matt
I don't think the 2 window switches is an issue. Does it light up or anything when you've activated it?
Might want to get three guys in the back rather than three Eskimos. Probably might be a good idea to take the puffer jackets off when you’re reviewing cabin space.
ID7 turning circle is 10,9m instead of 12,3m. source= VW
Can you believe anything VW says after Dieselgate!?
@@gdok6088yes, if it’s anything like the ID.3 or ID.4, then the turning circle would be brilliant.
@@gdok6088 Other journalist claim it has a very good turning circle. Do you believe Tesla's claims about their trunk space?
yes u are right, the turning circle is way smaller than he said
@@reeshthegoat possibly on the GTX model, with its front motor. same as on the ID.4, turning circle increases a lot of the 4WD models
Nearly 60k and a heat pump is extra! There are a lot of good cars as the Model Y, BMW I4 and many others to chose in this segment!
has there been any improvement to VW's heatpump system? Last thing I know was ID owners getting some bucks back, since their heat pump doesn't actually do much 😅 (def old story)
VW can’t design a car with a proper heat pump that doesn’t brake down within 2 years. See eGolf, ID4 and Q4 eTron.
Laughed at the comparison to King Charles. It's refreshing to see a review, great work.
We still have the Passat Estate (at least in mainland Europe)
Ah I didn't realise the UK wasn't in Europe..thanks
@@issachunt3418 It IS Europe! But this is how Matt says all the time. The new Passat Estate is still available in MAINLAND Europe, OK?
Theres a new Generation of Passat coming to the UK too
please use metric system also in range and mpg
It's a British video after all, and it's not difficult to multiply by 1.6 (like 16 km is 10 miles). However mpg (or miles per kWh) is actually confusing, as Continental Europe uses reciprocal measures (i.e. like litres per km, and not kms per litre), like Europe emphasizes how many petrol you use per unit of distance, and UK & US emphasize how many km/mi you can drive on a unit of petrol.
btw 350 miles is like 560 km (like from Gdańsk to Czech border in PL), if we assume an actual range were 250 miles (400 km), it is acceptable for a car to drive daily.
@@RooiGevaar19Just use the metric system it isn't that hard
ikr@@djangomueller
Had a Cupra as a rental car upp in Luleå during the winter. The auto lane assist was a straight upp danger as it would make up its own lanes randomly and try to drive you off into the forest without warning... And it restarting every time was a huge annoyance.
Blame EU pencil pushers. Every car will have this. My electric iX3 has lane assist on but it works quite well - it vibrates but you can easily over power it if you feel the car is wrong. Other manufacturers may have a worse implementation.
I fully agree with you about the window switches. There is more than enough space for four switches. Or at least make the "rear" switch a real button, so I know the state without looking.
We need affordable family Evs with a decent 300 mile range, this isn't it. And the window switches and air vent flow direction adjustment is ridiculous. How can they charge over 50 grand when they cheap out so much?
My i-MiEV was similar with cost-cutting options along with some niceties. Example: No rear speakers, but a lighted vanity mirror. Tupperware interior, but speed-sensitive wipers. Ridiculously small instrument cluster, but heated seats and steering wheel.
We need to do like de agriculteurs to car prices we need to do long drives and the eletrics are too expensive
I'd always take manufacturers range claims with a bit of cynicism, VW even moreso. At least when it was just a mpg figure, we sort of all understood it to be based on some ideal driving, conditions etc I assume EV's have a few similar caveats regarding range, like flooring it after light turns green gonna hurt range a bit.. but it really should be something reviewers test a bit more than what was shown here, or some independent source.
Only one answer: Tesla
@@jegerm6752 Tesla is actually a good option if need some integration with a charging network, and don't care about lies about features, and don't really mind how bad the build quality is.
My Golf 8 starting routine is ignition > lane assist off > start/stop off > engine > go
You forgot ESP off….or is that a touch too far 😀😀
My MX-5 is ignition > go
My Fiat, ignition n go. Got only abs n tempomat.
@@monk3yboy69 what the hell are you even driving and where? 😆 the only time I see ESP engaging is iced over roads on end-of life winter tyres.
can't you code it to save the value? I hate this stuff
The trunk volume cannot be completely compared, VW complies with VDA standards DIN 70020-1 and ISO 3832. Tesla measures the volume differently. Using the same measuring method, the volume of the Model Y should also be around 500-600L. The EU is responsible for turning many assistants back on at every start, this is now regulated by law
Please please please Matt do a review on the Ssangyong Rexton Ultimate plus and the new kGM Torres K40 which has just been launched in the UK x
Oh dear lord. I thought we were moving away from everything being on the touch screen. Between the window switches and having to do changing the vent direction on the touchscreen even? Are they TRYING to make their cars unappealable?
It seems so. I simply HATE new cars 😂 these interiors are awful and user friendliness/ergonomics honed over the past few decades (probably peaking ~2019) just thrown away in the bin
the safty settings reset after restart is an ncap function and all cars will do so in future
be it as it may... but make it so I can add a settings profile to specific keys with some "load individual safety-settings"-button. I have driven on a highway not that long ago when a construction site came along. The white lane markings were replaced by temporary yellow markings. The assist function didn't understand this and began to steer me under a lorry. It took some pretty aggressive wheel-turning to keep it from murdering me, resulting in zigzagging in the narrow construction lane at highway speeds. It was magical...
@@hendrickziegler8487 In the UK we often have cars parked in the road. Even with white lines in the road I have on multiple occasions been steered into parked cars. Driver Assistant settings are sometimes dangerous. *Forcing* people to use them is so fucking dumb.
Nice to have these back, Mat! Just a UX thing - the QR codes are useless if you're watching on a mobile device and I bet your user stats would tell you that most of people use a phone to watch these videos. Nice idea though Keep the amazing content coming
You have to dive into a menu to point the vents. Madness! Do they have motors in them to point? Ditch them, save weight and use the saving to put in manual adjusters
More reviews! We eating good today!😄
The Passat gone?? I mean, I like this car, but it is a weird shape, not really sedan like the Passat was. It looks more like a crossover had a baby with a swdan.
Problem is legacy were good at engines n their own personalities.With that USP gone this is just a expensive legacy brand which has nothing on newer entrants which give you quicker, better value car stuff better software n more modern tech. As Matt states here brake pedal fell is average, it's only good from point a to point B, average turning circle, average multimedia controls, Wind noise. Very very average VW for £58K
Theres also a new Passat that's been announced!
thank fuk@@davesmith9104
Passat is gone
@@edwardvalivonis23 I work for VW, no it isn't. It will just only be an estate
Was thinking about the window switches. Very minor point, yet in my case I do not remember the last time I used the switches for the back seat. Note to self. Check to see if they actually work.
thanks to VW, you can now use the back windows unintentionally.
@@bidzej86exactly what I wanted to say :)), so dumb
gotta say, the haptic buttons work like a charm presses 5 times on temperature, moves once
This look better than i expected, i mean it's a VW Sedan, they're not supposed to look exciting. but personally i'ts not my Thing, now if this was an EV Golf or Scirocco GTI/R and it would look unassuming, that would be different. People wonder "why do People buy this and that instead of "enter new EV Brand here"". This is why: These will sell well because of Brand Loyalty and easy access to Repairs/Service, if your VW EV and other Legacy Brand EV has issues or breaks down, you'll get a Replacement for the Time its in the Shop without any Hassle. Just one of the many Reasons why so many People prefer to buy an EV from a Brand they have good Experiences with instead of daring to buy some Brand they had no Experience with whatsoever.
Problem is legacy were good at engines n their own personalities.With that USP gone this is just a expensive legacy brand which has nothing on newer entrants which give you quicker, better value car stuff better software n more modern tech. As Matt states here brake pedal fell is average, it's only good from point a to point B, average turning circle, average multimedia controls, Wind noise. Very very average VW for £58K
A car that costs 58k should look exciting, regardless if it's a sedan or a coupe and VW or Porche.
@@ciybersal3499 Just drive your fancy new car from a super innovative new car brand and don't post the same "average" text under every comment :) Thank you
Hit the nail on the head, as it pertains to the "democratization" that has occurred with the advent of EVs and how it's taken the excitement out of the competition. I am not anti EV at all, but as a car lover that has always jumped immediately on car reviews of new ICE vehicles, I find myself clicking on new EV reviews halfheartedly. Of course, there will be differentiating factors but EVs are now as exciting as mobile phones, especially when evaluating them based on reviews.
Couldn’t have said it better!
My MK 7.5 e-Golf has individual window switches on the driver's door and it's really annoying as the rear ones fall easiest to hand and I usually end up opening one of those first by accident. I'd prefer the system in the ID7, it makes more sense to me.
I am always sad to see that they remove stuff and increase prices to ungodly level. However I must say you are right - most of the time I only open the front windows and probably the only time I open a rear window (when not venting air out during summer) is by accident
Exactly my thoughts. I don't drive a VW, but I've been thinking "who on earth wants to have two rows of these buttons" ever since people started complaining about it. Every single time that I want to open the front window on my car, I open the back window. Because sure as hell I'm not going to look away from the road while driving. And the back window control is in the "right place". 🤷🏻♂️
The fact it doesn't stop in B mode is useful in Germany as some residential streets have a 5 km / hour limit
BW Bland Wagon. Even that side crease looks like an after thought.
Tesla boot space numbers are very misleading. They add up the underfloor space in the Model 3, and the space upto the roof in the Model Y. Other manufacturers only state the figures upto the rear seat headrests so Tesla figures appear bigger
Looks a bit big to be a Model 3 competitor. The Model 3 is pretty small, this is a rather large sedan.
Haha I love the sarcastic joke in the title "its not boring". It obviously is and the price gave me a tourette atack.
I work at a vw main dealer and I find they nice to drive they’re v smooth, quick AND WAYYYY bigger in person they’re massive compared to the old Passat and the space inside is humongous they would be a good daily driver if u had smth fun for the weekends and long trips
23:56 and onwards honestly encapsulates the situation for all legacy manufactures and electric cars.
They will catch up in a couple of years. Cars are used a lot longer than smartphones. When I need a new car there will be plenty of options.
@@MetalheadAndNerd they may
So a replacement battery on the Hyundai Ionic 6 costs more the car. VW can repair batteries apparently, should be included in the review if true.
VW can replace inidividual modules (blocks of cells). I think this car has 12 modules, each of which will cost you like 2000 € to replace
"It doesn't inspire me to try and have fun". This truly is a Passat, then.
21:25 3.1 mi/kWh mean absolutely nothing without knowing the driving profile, ambient temperature, AC power draw, heat pump yes/no?, wind. 7°C is pretty cold. All EVs lose a lot of range when it's cold. Btw did you leave the car opened in the cold. That would explain why your display didn't react, despite it working for every other reviewer out there.
Also, it's probably a press car, so it likely gets driven more aggressively than the type of people that would buy this car would drive. I take Matt's range estimates with a grain of salt.
@@Herkimer_Snerd Yes. When i wrote 'driving profile', I meant velocity as function of distance (which includes the information for accelerations and avg speed) and the altitude differential(start-end). Good reviewers always take the same route: a long trip from A to B and back to A on the same highway. They take the measurement when they are back at point A and not somewhere in the middle of the trip. That way it's unlikely the result was influenced by wind a lot and the altitude differntial is 0.
True enough, so we might assume it will do a little better in reality. It needs to, as competition especially from Tesla would return closer to 4mi/kWh at that temperature. I was getting 4.4 yesterday with an average speed of 60 due to traffic on the motorway in a model 3 long range over 240 miles. Thats a real world range of 340 miles out of the same 77 kWh usable battery.
@@joshbridges8410 Ams: 110kph avg speed, 17°C, 3 passengers, suboptimal topology -> 3.5 mi/kwh Edit: It's real competitor in terms of weight and size would be the model S btw. Even the Model S is not as comfortable and luxurious btw.
@@sebvv5219 no, as even VW have stated, it's a competitor to the model 3, and prices compatible to model 3 (before Tesla's price drop). Nobody is shopping for a car and choosing between a Model S and an iD.7. A closer comparison from the VW group lineup would be the Q8 e-tron. The fact it weighs as much as a model S is just poor design and one source of its inefficiency.
In mid 2000's my uncle bought a 2.0 FSI Passat. The version was called "Highline" and it had many of the options (Sunroof, Alcantara-Leather seats, cruise control, heated seats, automatic wipers and so on). I think it was 32.000 Euros which at the time. Probably half what this one starts from. I can see no justification for that as it's the same market segment.
We must take into account that Euro (as well as pounds and other currencies) in 2004 was more valuable than now... Back in 2002 my dad bought a 206 for 40000 zł, now it's hard to find a compact car for less than 80K. But still, EVs are relatively expensive compared to their ICE equivalents.
EUR32000 in 2004 is roughly EUR50.0000 now if you account for inflation
Inflation is one thing, but buying power is whole another thing. Prices went 100% up because of the inflation in like 10 years, but salaries for the same work places are maybe 10 or at best case 30% higher in the same time frame. And it's the same situation over whole Europe. So, it's no wonder sale number at falling down...
Inflation is a thing you know. Adjusted for inflation the price of your uncles Passat actually comes pretty close to the ID7.
Digging the alloy wheel design👍
Another great video. Just need to win the lottery to own on lol.
Looking forward to the review on the new ID.4, as this seems a bit lumpy for most people, and would be better as an estate version, I think.
The ID7 will be available as an Estate
Its the first Id-Model i would consider buying when I would be looking for a Limusine. Especially because it looks not that cheap inside anymore.
The ID3 this year is pretty much the same, it even has seat massage and all other features this one has (is also not the cheapest one though)
24:30 Truer words haven't been spoken. Completely agree with you Mat.
Great review! Astonishing how they were able to make the car much more expensive than a Tesla and the turning radius wider than a Model 3. It already feels like a ship when turning.
Volkswagen never learns a lesson they tried going up market before in the US and their sales tanked the Toureg CC Arteon and phaeton were all pulled from US because no one bought them now we are getting this $60.000.00 US and the ID buzz $60,000.00 and a Tiguan 2025 going up $6.000.00 crazy
That's why Tesla is winning. The ID7 is also A6, which will probably cost $80 000.
Am I the only one that still has the old car wow intro playing in there head at the strat of the video. 😢 I miss it
Just got our ID7 (Stockholm Sweden 4 March 2024) The glove box don't look same as in your test car. We got a normal space, no middle wall. 👍👍
Can you please review Mazda cx30? It's on the market for a while and i would like to see your opinion on it
15:50 that feature (when I remember correctly from top gear) was first featured in a Maybach and was an extra that cost 20.000 GBP
12:32 I can't believe they left that same stupid door panel switch from the id4 in the id7. Why not just take a switch out the Jetta's parts bin??? Why try to complicate something that's so easy?
thanks and never mind. there will be another Golf. combustion. and a GTi.
thanks for the videos, but can you make the shots more stable and focused, it's hard to see when the camera is moving
I love your reviews! I think they are the best on youtube. I watch every one of them just to keep up to date with the most recent cars. Thank you 😊
I am not totally against the iD range.... but I do find them a bit boring in the styling department. The biggest issue is that the entire iD range is expensive. I wonder if they will hold their residual values? Somehow, I think Skoda will hold their values better than VW.
Yes In the end he called it not exciting so basically boring car
The type of people that would buy this type of car generally have no interest in being excited by extreme performance or flashy design. Car enthusiasts are not the target market.
@herkimersnerd8740 No problem... I get it. Its the same type of people than only wanted their car to be painted SILVER.
they're expensive because somebody has to pay their dieselgate fines haha
@sssssneaker Of course.... The same goes for Toyota. They have been found cheating the emissions, cheating NCAP safety tests and cheating fuel consumption tests!
All People here complaining about the price. I think that extremely depends on the country. Over her in Germany I just speced the ID7 pro with the highest specs and it costs around 48.000 pound, which I find is fair for a middle to premium class electric sedan.
The new ID.7 Match spec starts at £51K so it has already had a much needed price cut.
In netherlands this car with optional features selected costs around 68k euro🤦♂️
What's the towing capacity, and range when towing an 1600kg trailer?
Does somebody know why so many electric cars do not have one pedal driving? I think it can´t be too difficult since most pedals not physically connected to the engine/ break components anymore.
the safety systems defaulting to 'on' is a EU mandate (General Safety Regulation), annoying and effects all cars with safety systems
I was just going to comment that this could be a dealbreaker to me but if you say it’s an EU thing I’m afraid it’s not something we can avoid.
And it's stupid because it's not good for safety. Recently I was almost in an accident on a big junction with three lanes turning left. I always turn off the lane assist, but I forgot it this time. The turn crosses a long broken line, which the car detected as a solid line, and the car effectively tried to push me into the car on the right...
You want to watch the review but then you remember there is actually nothing to see
Great review, but in most reviews I saw, the id.7 was very efficient, even at higher speeds on the Autobahn. Easily doing 400+ km at higher speeds. While also charging pretty fast.
lol the chatgpt chat alone is worth the like
3 days and the intro didn't aged well...
"This is the new Volkswagen ID7, and it's a bit like King Charles" - Mat, sunshine, why would I want to buy a car whose balls are rotting off?
Yes please more car reviews, drag races are great but need variety
Man, this King Charles comparison aged very poorly.
Comes with the classic VAG electrical problems within 18 months too no doubt
well he cannot pronounce any word ending 'ing' and instead says ' ink '..dunno why it triggers me!
how serviceable is the battery?
I cant remember the last time i actually opened the rear windows from the drivers seat thinking about it
When you park in a field and make the floor filthy with muddy boots, I always wonder whether you bother getting the car cleaned before you return it? Or do you just give it back with the floor mats covered in mud?
Never heard you call some of Tesla’s questionable design quirks crap. Or highlight their fines for dubious activities. Not showing a bias are you Matt ?
Thought that to. Not very neutral this review
I agree, his voice gives it away
Agreed. Didn't seem like a fair review. If Matt can't stay unbiased, there really isn't any point to doing reviews.
I think the acoustics in the cabin are also an important point, we are now going to hear more wind and road noise, so it will be good to see how the traditional car makers handle this vs the new electric manufacturers.
Hmm, thought that the turning cycle on the id.7 is 10.9m - at least that's what the spec says for cars in Germany. Changed specs for cars in the UK?