Roy shaw talks in his book about a brutally violent showdown with Hollywood Club bouncers in Romford but now a bouncer from that night gives his side of the story!!!
Roy Shaw Fight In His Own Words : • FIGHT with ROY SHAW | ...
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odd how these people are always 'gentlemen'. presumably even when they brutally attack someone for looking at them in the wrong way
Agree.
I bet Roy had been taking that bloody ginsing again.
Liquid or Tablets Ginsing ?? 😂😂😂
Shaw was still clubbing at 60? Talk about the oldest swinger in town😂
@@doublewhopper67 depends on the context. 60 isn't old for darts and domino's But for nightclubs?give over man.them places are for youngsters not near on pensioners
As bad as me then lol
I knew a guy who walked past roy shaw
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Hahahaha!!! Love it
Did he walk past the Krays?
@@darrincassidy9045with his back to the wall 😂
@@darrincassidy9045 Not on the same night
I remember Hollywoods as a kid: surface glamour, filthy underbelly. It was an effort getting in the gaff (young black lads, full of energy) but we were seriously on point dancers and it was good for the club, our light tripping, so they kindly let us in eventually. Violence was the fiat currency. The atmosphere was always jolly and high until the kite came down, then it became ancient medieval rituals and spilt teeth. I grew up in Bow and Stratford so when I escaped to university, I never looked back but some of my mates were all part of the Pills and Spills era. It was honestly, hard and horrible.
You've got to speed it up and get to the point.....this was like listening to one of my dad's stories, painful.
The idea that they did not know who Pretty Boy Shaw was is bollocks. It’s not the dog in the fight. It’s the fight in the dog.
Ruckus in the london pub sounds just like something that happened in the northeast uk about 30yrs ago. Some of those who walked in had to turn sideways to get in through the door, due to their size. Then the door was locked and no one was allowed to leave.
I used to go to Hollywoods (Romford) back in the early-mid nineties.had some really good times in there🥳I see Roy on a couple of occasions in Freddy whales wine bar (called Freddy whales bar at the time early nineties) opposite Romford station.always with a younger woman. The good old days.wish I could bring em back🙂
That Lee Chapman could handle himself ..but Roy was in his 50s nothing to boast about ...and them saying they didnt know who roy was is absolute bullshit
I agree
Everyone in Romford knew who Roy Shaw was at that time.
So glad your back on this platform. Great content. Your the man! 👊
Thank you brother
" He came with two women, alone." Apart from two women, he wasn't with anyone else. On his own. Apart from the two women he was with.
My husband was in a pub in the late 80’s and he met a fella who was a painter & decorator who swore he was in a huge house in London painting a loft conversion or something like that anyway there was a room at the end of the hallway that was always locked but after the third week on the job this fella noticed the door was not actually locked but was in fact being kept closed by a hoover which had obviously fallen on its side. It seemed like a case of someone forgetting to place the vacuum hose back in its housing. I guess we’ll never know but this video really reminded me of that incident for some reason.
WTF??!, you should write a book aboudit...
I work for penguin books and would like to make a 3D version of this story starring Joaquin Phoenix as the hoover.
@@ufoools I would have to give such an offer due consideration, this is not the first time I’ve been approached regarding this incredibly suspenseful anecdote. In fact a parcel arrived to my home one rainy day in April, it was wrapped tightly in brown paper with the the address placed perfectly in the middle. On closer inspection my suspicions were confirmed that the delivery was actually from Amazon. Even now I tremble at the memory of slowly opening that parcel only to reveal inside what was a box & inside this box were…. Epsom salts. I had ordered them the previous day, apparently they help with sore muscles when added to a warm bath. I digress however, your offer is both intriguing & unsettling in equal measure and for that I thank you.
Cool story bro
@@ufoools nah, that part should go to charlie sheen....📯>👃____☁️.
Roy was still clubbing in his 70's I met him in a club in Epping called 195. I was talking to him for about an hour and a half. He told me he had a fight in there a few weeks earlier.
Why was an old man fighting. Mad
@@SteveEwer-kn5ejhe was just a fighting man. A mixture of not being able to help himself and enjoying it.
Great content and presentation. 😊
1:26 pretty sure the guy on the front right is stunt rider Eddie Kid
Yeh, i think is too, Well spotted😂
Smashing his way out of a locked cell with his head cant have done his brain any good plus all bare knuckle fights bless him RIP MR SHAW
Photo with the bouncers on the stairs: Top Left, is Tony Tucker.
Friend of mine played piano in a club called Bugattis in Brentwood years ago, around 82? Haw turned up one night and wouldn’t leave at closing time 2am, still drinking at the bar. 6 “bouncers” twiddling their thumbs. Police were called, Roy agreed to leave then went the plod left he changed his mind and wouldn’t leave till 6am. Nobody challenged him lol. And people say he wasn’t a trouble maker?
lol 100% of made up stories start with 'a friend of mine'
What happened to the Piano Player ?? Bet his Fingers were Sore after playing until 6am 😂😂😂😂😂
Its bloke from Stoke aup brother good to be and you got some bangers out
Another great video, could you do one on malcom price from merthyr tydfil south wales if possible please
I knew and witnessed Malcolm price go to town, fucking frightening to watch , and in his prime man was animal another league, the very best on street I ever seen and would back my mortgage that prime pricey was best in country, go on Matt legg podcast he mentions pricey and it's his most watched vids, pricey was due to fight Lenny McLean, and even ray hill who knew both said pricey would destroy Lenny and that Malcolm price was best in Britain on street back then and ray hill knows and mention all them and put pricey as top dog
@@jonathanwhite6440 I agree I think malcom would have done lenny in the ring or in a street fight but that's just my opinion, I often wonder how malcom would have done against someone like roy shaw or cliff feilds tho
Thing with Roy Shaw that may be getting overlooked with regards to his perceived mood swings was that Shaw died of dementia, the onset of which could have been making issues for him at a younger age than many might believe. There are photos of Shaw walking about social events and just from these it is horribly obvious he was being ravaged by the illness (rheumy eyes, signs of incontinence, weight loss). Could Shaw have been in effect a dementia patient even at this time? Possibly. It has also been said that contrary to his fitness regimen, he was also fond of a bag of beak here and there.
Signs of incontinence?
@@bashtherich5372 There is a pic where he has a big piss stain on his trousers
Its totally possible seeing as though dementia is what took my Grandad and the signs were showing in his late 50s early 60s and apparently that's when dementia becomes most visible
@@bashtherich5372 Yeah there's a few "questionable" images on the net.
@@Jammo1978 It can in some cases. There's early onset dementia that can occur in the 30s. There's other "dementia" like illnesses such as vCJD / CJD or Fatal Familial Insomnia (extremely rare). The most common Alzheimer's, vascular dementia and Lewy Body Dementia can occur in the 50s and 60s and the decline can vary wildly and they come with an almost infinite number of variables.
Thanks for sharing, and yes you are dead right once you are past your prime it's quite easy for another hard man to sort you out, enjoying your content 🤙
Michael kelly was interviewed on the recent documentary the Essex boys murders.
Roy got dot cotton and Jimmy white and ran them back out of the east end that’s what really happened
The thing about years ago it was about who could hold Their hands up and have a scrap, nowadays your up against knives, etc a different era back in the day.
Geezers have been getting tooled up forever, the idea that it all used to be honourable fist fighting is a view through rose tinted glasses.
Yeah, knives were only invented in 2003.....😂
Not sure what to make of that story, i did hear that Roy was quite a gentleman when he was out and about, i suppose if you had a tough guy rep when you was young it's hard to let that life go as you age, father time always catches up, the way i look at it is if i got in the ring now at 51 and fought my 25 yr old self i would be destroyed lol.
Chances are it would probably be a draw due to the fact that once a chinless wonder, always a chinless wonder 👍🏻
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The thing is with people that just read is they want to be the talked about but the hole truth is you are never gona hear the truth about these situations because real people keep their mouth shut
Were they been sarcastic calling him Pretty boy Shaw he had a face like a work Boot
Hi buddy my step uncle and step father was good friends with Roy from the old days right until Roy passed away, Roy did not conduct himself like that when out and about he was quite shy if anything. The thought of people in there 30’s doing that to Roy is ludicrous and they would of not got away with it.
He wrote about it his book !!!!! He talked about it on KZhead 20 yrs later. Course it didn’t happen 😀
yes might well have been good guy dignified around certain people but another person when under influence of drugs and around tosspots
@@bilsmith7328 that I will agree with you. His car dealer mates were absolute tossers and were as equally responsible for the fight.
I believe him Roy's story about the hammer is a lie he was incredibly vain and would have been mortified with the loss Roy comes across as an unbearable .
Eye waz there. yoo were knot.
As for toughness and brute strength, pound for pound Shaw was probably the scariest bastard around back then. Those eyes man......jesus. And taking about 20 plus punches from a prime Lenny Mclean before he fell is mental. One of those would have put down a horse and Roy took a ton o them. If he was a 6 inches bigger hed have been unbeatable. Lenny only beat hjm due to him being half his size and age. Roy was a scary scary dude.
He did real good on the unlicensed circuit, shame there's no footage of his win over Lenny.
Lee Chapman said he saw Roy Shaw one night crouched behind a bin, and he was picked up by the police and he was in possession of a hammer 🔨 Fighting is all he knew I reckon, and being told he can't go in a club is seen as people taking a liberty which doesn't go down well with a certain breed of human beings.
Wasn't Mr Shaw in Broadmoor ? So definitely he was not all there. You only have to see him in interviews, he's a twitchy, terrifying guy. Like you said, Roy Shaw is not a god. But it's no great feat for a professional bouncer of 6-6 to sucker punch a pensioner of 5-8. And then only go public with the story 12 years after Shaw's death too.
every dog has there day cant win em all roy had to many liquid coshes while inside
I've also seen the interview with Mr Kelly and his various stories are extremely accurate to stories I've heard over the years , I think he is very credible indeed , comes across as a good guy and certainly not one to mess with but also not a bully , really enjoyed listening to him ..
People always talk shot when someone is dead.i new Roy Shaw no one ever said a word whole he was alive.
They where all terrified of davey hunt
The good old days
Very good mate
Best video yet, really enjoyed it. Your insights were great.
Thankyou mate
I think if roy shaw had a hiding infront of a nightclub everyone would have known, all these stories come out after their dead
Roy spoke about it while he was alive.
@@marcmorrissey1147not about the hiding
@@benben8158. He also wrote a load of shit in his book about it. If you believe the fantasy a 50yp shaw could beat that doorteam, then you still believe in the tooth fairy !!
Not proud of it, I was being a prick inside Hollywoods 1995 and one of the bouncers briefly knocked me out lol and then a bunch of them had an arm and a leg each, walked me down the stairs and threw me outside.
Sounds like my kind of night
Rest in peace roy...very polite really nice man staunch all the way. Respect blessings
Rip mr shaw you were a machine in your prime and time and you were fearless also. I would not have signed up for for half your fights let alone get in the ring with them 😂 but on a separate and serious side i was unfortunate not to meet him 😢 but I know many that have and they always said what a gentleman to be around. Just keep an eye on your mrs else you'll get a black eye 😂❤RIP mr shaw😎🙏💪👍
No he said he never caught up with them in interviews i herd
Listen to all sides & the truth is probably hidden in the middle somewhere……..
Is that tony tucker in photo at Hollywoods ?
It is 🤙
I heard about all the names of them guys how you get this info I do not know but I know it's correct
Yes someone else mentioned him but I think it deserves another mention. I once walked past Ronnie Pickering.
I actually believe this story !!
Roy Shaw prime hardest about.
You in the fighting game chief ?
I think the version sounds more believable from Michael Kelly. I got say though how many men would fight like that at 52-3, he didn’t give a monkeys, madness.
Unbelievable how people think someone is Tarzan the screws in Wanno ex- military beat u do down bigtime
Roy shaw was a gentleman. He knew my dad well through training up dads gym in chadwell Heath Essex ( The Spartan). As for the doorman on hollywoods door , they were very arrogant as I remember when I went as a 20 year old . Minding my own business , one of them picked on me for no reason .
He wasn't always a gent. He stole my Mum's drink in the Thatchers Arms in Brentwood.
@@CIMAmotor well my dad wasn’t with him 24 , 7 so I can’t possibly comment
Roy beat up mr Humphrey’s (Steve Wraith) over allegations that Humphrey’s was a police nark, how right Roy was eh ?
I used to love 'Are you being served'..
Shaw got the krays to murder a bloke who messed around with his wife when he was inside.A bully is a nice person compared to Roy Shaw.
They were all bullies
Roy confirmed that didn't happen. The guy was just a friend of his ex-wife & worked at Romford Market.
It says in pretty boy that they got better of him and he went bk tooled up but changed his mind and that was the last proper fight until he started getting older age waits for no man and wen u are pass it it’s easier to get in fights
Have u noticed all the guys tht said they batterd roy and len AFTER they died,like tht gluckstad
Gluckstead is a proper wrongun
@@markjohn1910 I don't know much bout him read his book and heard about some,bad charges after,is it true then.?yammy has a vid bout him and there's another one saying he had a beef with Lenny,if he's guilty how can he walk the same area?it's strange
@@josephmills-mw2hs they’re both been deceased a long time . My dad knew Roy quite well
Lee Chapman used to be on the door at Hollywood's in ipswich in the 90s when i used to go there, he was huge!
I read about this fight at Hollywood and called bullshit on some details. Roy said they knew who he was. I didn't believe that and its been confirmed. With that said above, iv met Roy on a few occasions. Not a tall man, 5'8 probably, but you could tell he was a dangerous man. I never see him being a bully or causing trouble.
But he would use a cosh to smash over the head of the young lad picking up the wages for his company from the bank ,I call that scum.
Roy was a great fighter he was never a bullying towards people l like the man RIP Roy you missed by many
Very interesting.
Everybody losers Ali lost a few and he was the best of the best 😊
Load ov lie s Tony tucker wood have pissed his pants
Second picture top left (Tony tucker)
My buddies uncle bumm3d him then made lenny toss his salad then had a cup of tea, just another day in broadmoor😂
Proper gentlemen, the chaps.
Full good watch ⌚ 👌
Why wait till hes dead tho before you say your side . Suspect to me . If he said it while he was alive add believe it a little . But not when thy wait till hes dead to say
This Irish guy saying this about Roy its sad how they wait till hes dead before making him look a wrongen hidding behind bins etc when Roy's no longer here to justify himself. I dont like how they day nothing at all but when people are dead all kinds of story's manifest
Actually it's true story Roy was on youtube talking about it said"few guys attacked him outside nightclub" he didn't say it was Hollywood's though he said he returned with a hammer and was going to do them all but heard police sirens thought they were coming for him so he ducked behind some bins he changed his mind and went home..
Roy said it himself in his book
Bloke I knew reckoned he used to clean Roy’s windows. After he stopped licking them….
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Roy was 52 in 1988.
April 87 !!
Do you have actual Solid Proof of all the claims made on this channel?
No mate this was his version. I've been rang since saying its false il be doming another video
@@enquirer2.0. Why don’t you let me have a chance to reply face to face. If not, I expect you to ask him if he truly believes shaw (as he stated in his book) knocked us out one by one till the rest ran away. I want to hear him say he believes that or he thinks shaw lied. He cannot say the fight never happened when shaw wrote and spoke about it.
Funny how the story’s only start after he passed away! If it was true why didn’t this Kelly go and tell him to his face the books been out for years…… this story of his what a load of dribble #Royshaw Guv’nor 🖤
Perhaps he was letting the old dog have his day and showing a bit of respect by staying quiet while books were selling .Just a possibility
Well if he was showing a bit of respect and didn’t say anything back then how about showing a bit of respect now the man has passed away and not here to defend his corner…. Funny that no one sed anything when he was alive they’re all coming out of the woodwork now for views RIP Roy show #The GUV’NOR 💯
We did let the book go, but not his interview with galvin. I did respond in the comments years ago. But Tony tucker is all anyone wants to hear about now so I was asked about the shaw incident. And you won’t know this but it was one of my Russian doorman’s wife who looked after Shaw when he had dementia in his final days. He was treated with nothing but respect !! Now Lee deserves respect !!!@@davidjonesyjones3809
Maybe no one had asked him till they were brave enough to ie once he had passed
They say Malcom Price from Merthyr Tydfil South Wales was hard has nails.I know a fella from the same place Merthyr that knocked out Pricey one punch,so no Malcom wasn't the hardest.But after this fella knocked out Pricey,Pricey wouldn't look at him again,truth told,Pricey wouldn't mess with him,fact that,he wasn't the only one from South Wales hard,there was loads about,and not afraid of Pricey ether.
Knew a guy in my local in paisley and his name was Roy shaw, the amount of times that guy got asked outside was hilarious
I have a signed copy of this book roy was very polite he was with dave cortney
The real story is Roy actually stopped at pub just down the road for bit dutch courage he decided to have shot of spirit before going up to sort out the guys at Hollywood. After finishing his drink Roy noticed something wrong and could taste something familiar in the back of his mouth.Roy got to the door of Hollywood's and it suddenly hit him like a steam train he realised he had been served ginseng in the pub and he knew he was now in big trouble .....
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Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I saw Roy Shaw on the See saw
I bought a cortina off Roy it needed a clutch the tosser
These tails are great listening at bed time I'm asleep in no time at all.🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂.
Chapman was a very tough guy and a judo champion and extremely strong
And Tucker's right hand
Roy was a great boxer, but short fella and any decent MMA/wrestler would have tied him in locks. Unless Roy studied locks etc.
He was a very average boxer lol
Hi Gary. Just judging that he fought one of the Paddock Brothers, who we're good Pros and my mate is one of the Paddocks, who we're a tough breed.
And a nuke would do him too?....
@@mervmervalot2296 nuke Merv?
I met Roy and Lennie in a boozer called the cricketers in Wandsworth at different time but when I met them they were in their prime around 35/37 yrs old and let me tell you if it had gone down then well let’s just say “TOTALLY DIFFERENT OUTCOME”
But they weren't in their prime were they..........
At 1 min 34 secs they should have known who he was that's Eddie Kidd lol
At 9.19 you can see Richard Hammond in the top right corner.
You got me, I had to go and have a look.
@@skinnytinny9023you’re not the only one 😂
Ian reading and check the first photo out and see who it is clue top left .
All the doorman have different stories about what happened. So who is telling the truth.?
They didn’t want him inside and told him. So he kicks off? Guy was obviously an arsehole
Listen the screws in Wano probably ex SAS wrap up the Krays C.Bronson any any else that challegens their authourity was a solider
Waiting in a dark alley with a hammer reflecting on his life looool
God bless roy shaw. ⚘️
Hollywoods was a naughty place.
“Bollocks” You mess around with the Adams Family the A-Team mate there in a different league there’s no second chances with them they don’t care who you are they were ‘BIG’, go ask the ‘Firm’ see what they got to say about the incident, I think they went to the wrong boozer mate looking for Roy and the Firm.
Well since I knew Gilbert winter and you didn’t , how do you know what I got away with ?? The adams hired people to do their bidding, who do you think that was hmnnn ?
Ask the 'Firm' lol
He might have consumed too much ginseng tea like the last time big lenny battered him
I KNEW A BLOKE ONCE THAT KNEW A BLOKE THAT HAD A THINGY THAT WAS UM WHATSANAME WITH THIS BIRD THAT YOU KNOW LOST A FINGAMYGIG WITH THAT OTHER FELLA I WAS ON ABOUT EARLIER! KNOW WHAT I MEAN MATE!? 😆🤣😂😹
Listen let me put all the stories striaght tony simpson,would of put all of ye to bed,stop whollowing shite ,tony leveled the lot,he fought hagler in back yard,lost i know but hard,guy skyes not in his league,i ate prison talk,proper hardmen put the packet on the table,tuke no shite of anyone want to know more il interciew the hard striaght lads
Whos the first ,dave woods northwest best
Eddie kid and Tony tucker 😊
I think Roy's but at the Jean sing again
Roy took 20 proper bangs off lennie McLean but this bouncer geezer done im in one no way
Given that not one of the giant guy's Roy fought managed to punch him off his feet and out with just one punch, including Lenny McLean, is it likely to have happened this way.
McLean knocked him out the ring .
@@Rumpleforeskin77 I think "with just one punch" was what was being highlighted here though.
Come on, he was in his mid 50s....defo punch resistance drops
Guys, Chapman was bigger than Lenny and much much faster at 23yo. He broke Gary delaneys jaw and leg at Hollywood for slapping up his girlfriend. He knocked out Matt Skelton with a ju-jitsu throw and that guy fought for the world heavyweight title. He was Tim Wetherspoons minder when he fought Bruno in 86. Shaw was far from beating Lee even at his very best. You can’t streetfight a 22st mma guy who moves fast when all You have are your fists.
@@michaelkelly3638Lee sounds like he’d have some stories to tell has he ever thought about doing any podcasts ect?