New Audi RS 3 v AMG A45 S - DRAG RACE Hyper Hatch | 4K
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Which is faster, the mighty AMG A45 S or Audi's latest RS 3 Sportback?
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Running order of this video;
0:00 Intro
03:47 1st Run
05:19 2nd Run
07:30 Final Run
09:11 Brake Test
09:46 Conclusion
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A massively requested video after my 1st Drive RS 3 video, hope you enjoy it! Thanks for the amazing support as usual ❤️
Hi Joe great video buddy
Try again in 6 month.. Facelifted A45 should be faster..
Joe, great video I’m new to the channel. Great videos, love what you are doing!
could the audi benefit from a higher in gear starting speed?(having the car/engine further into the rev range?)
Where's the M2 Competition???
Matt Watson did a good rolling start with the RS3, I say it depends on the driver reaction
In gear at low revs it struggles regardless of driver input.
True I watched that video
@@JoeAchilles1 thank you for being honest and straight forward with your response. Most people would try to appease each brand manufacturer
I agree with you his rolling start is inaccurate and the drags also his focus is divided into calling it in
This looks enough to impress me as an A45s suit.
That RS3 is insane!
Quick isn't it!!!
1ft roll out though. But its still quick. Not too great on a roll but easily fast enough for road use. One you start slapping new turbos on them they become incredible drag machines.
Except for that turbo lag when it's on a roll what a bummer!
Given your 3.4 to 60 time, I would say that the figures of 3.1 are probably achievable given the trofeo tyres and a warmer climate. Another awesome video..
put stage 1 and you are going under 3
@ToxicRakyat with AWD a proper stage 1 wouldn't make it lose traction
Even 3.4 secs is brutal for a hatch that is only a 2.5 litre turbo. This car doesn’t need to reduce its zero time by 3 tenths it’s rapid as it is. Destroy lot of cars this would especially 135 bmw.
@@ZAK19857I mean m135i isn't even in this class lol
@@kipdrordy6858 exactly I think he means m140i even that is slower by at least 4 secondes
Thanks for the video Joe! That Audi 5 cylinder sounds amazing!
Thanks for watching, agree 5 pot is awesome 👌
Hey Joe,do you include the 1ft rollout in the time? Or are these times with the 1ft rollout subtracted. I know you can do both with a racebox, I'm just curious.
Finally the most wanted video. Good job Joe. Love it!
Cheers buddy!
1/4 mile times please!
Simply on fire at the moment mate !!!!!
Thanks bro ❤️❤️
@@JoeAchilles1 is the Audi AWD?
Thank you for the instant drag race
Good drag race and video. RS3 all the way for me. Was half expecting a guest appearance from Mat Watson.
I recently purchased this exact A45s, lovely car.
Really enjoy your informative videos. Keep it up.
From a class possessor, all life rs3… that engine is a masterpiece 🔥🔥
EXCELLENT VID! Thank you for the brilliant content👍
That 2.0 on the Mercedes’ puts out a lot of power. Given the choice though I’d still opt for the RS3. It’s unfortunate the RS3 wagon won’t be available in the US.😢
neither is the mercedes so not like you'd have the option
Exactly and the 4 door sedan looks too normal besides having vibrant colors. Not only that but availability is terrible here.
Great content Joe. Keep going, I like what and how you doing it. Could you put up a summary screen chart of the performance stats at the end of the video. Also try to get an independent race starter or at least a set of timed starting lights would be even better. 👍👍
Hey Joe. Great vids so far on the new RS3! You think you'll do a comparison test with the M2 Comp at some point? I'm considering a used M2C or potentially this new RS3 (though I'll have to wait for the Audi here in the US).
More of that races Joe 🙏🏼🙏🏼
rs 3 sounds amazing.. thank u joe .would love to see ....old rs3 vs the new rs3
Yeah that third drag race was perfect. That RS3 is a little beast!
Great video Joe - really good to see the comparison. 👍🏽
Thank you so much. That's settled a few arguments. RS3 back on top. Business as usual.
Think that's also got to do with the time the car launched. A45 s from 2019 and RS3 from 2021. The next AMG will be quicker, the upcoming RS3 will be even quicker again! You gotta love how they top each other with every itteration :D
@@HansPeter-pm1gq Mercedes will just hybridise it the next iteration and make it even more boring.
@@fentimanway1 lol, they ALL will hybridize the next generation, sadly. They were dragging their feet before but now it seems like every manufacturer is flipping to EV very quickly. Audi has already committed to no more ICE engines and set a date. I sure hope my 2020 lasts a while, it may be my last ICE engine ☹
@@fentimanway1 what I love is Mercedes always does it better. Imagine if the Audi was running a 4 cylinder wouldn't even be anything close to an A45s. But the next Gen RS3 will be a 4 cylinder lol. Anyways I just know that AMG will bring some heat even if the engine will be a hybrid with the E-Perfomance branding
@@neomalcom6464 You know not what you speak. Go check the original A45 1/4 mile times and compare it to an Audi S3's times (which has less power) and see the difference. Nothing in it. If Audi made the 2.0T As powerful as A45s, it would destroy the Merc. Just look at the stock internal tuned S3's and you'll see of what I speaketh.
Great video thanks Joe
I feel like the only thing Audi engineers were chasing was "Forget about everything, just beat the AMG" Happy to see the crown goes back to RS3. Officially the fastest hot hatch in the world once again!!
If someone told me a hatchback would be capable of doing 0-60 in 3.4, I’d ask what they’re smoking. What a time we’re living in. Genuine supercar speed in a practical package.
Great tests‼️
Dam I've been waiting for this
Brilliant video mate 👏🏼
Good job mentioning the tyres, it does make a difference of up to about 5 meters from 60mph (between premium brands)
There just nothing in really, on a uk road you just couldn’t split them. It just personal choice! Im currently running an A35 so I would go RS3 but only for a change. Both so capable and you wouldn’t be disappointed either way.
Good drag racing 🏁 thanks
Great video Joe. I’m looking forward to seeing reviews that compare the two on a twisty road. Is it too early to come to a conclusion on that question?
Good one JoJo...highly anticipated race
The Rs3, seems to me, would be faster in any race that you knew you were racing lol Meaning, you wouldn't "race" someone starting out in a higher gear with revs at 2500rpms... Hopefully you'd be in the proper gear and rpm. I want to be clear that I think it was smart for @Joe Achilles to show the lag/slower pick up of the rs3 from low rpms though. Great video
Was Joe still on winter Tyers for the race
race starts at 3:33 i love the audi rs3. i want to use it to race used bentley continental gt drivers. the old 200hp honda civic si just doesn’t have enough power for crazy tire widths
Great Video Joe 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Cheers Scott 👊🏼
I dont know why or how you don't have more subscribers than you have! Always good content and always knowledgeable and giving honest views! 👌 👍
Man, the RS3 hatch is 😍 sucks that the demand is not there in the USA, would love to see it on this side of the pond.
Thes best comparison yet well done!
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Thank you 👊
You’ve come a long way since I started watching you keep up the great work as your videos are some of the ones I enjoy the most!
Would the fact it has 8 gears mean the lower gearing would help on the in gear pulls (higher revs) and also more gear changes would affect the 0-60 too perhaps?
That was my thought about the rolling starts but I guess both hit 60 in 3rd?
Absolutely the gear ratios will be closer on the 8 speed to help the turbo spool up. Due to the the Audi's extra 500cc + another cylinder the torque curve will be much flatter
Nice close race that both absolute rockets 🙌 great vid fella 😎👍
I’d presume the lower lag of the *A45s* is due to the extra gear. You really couldn’t moan with owning either of these cars 🇩🇪 > 🇩🇪
But long term wise, audi’s S & RS’ & bmw M’s are more reliable , more mods friendly , more aftermarket support and have resale value than Mercedes-benz AMG’s (not talking about antiques or collectibles or 200k$ trucks)
@@MTLJack this applies for the 4 cylinder only lol. The v8's amg are not less reliable than what bmw or audi have.
for me rs3 anyday, more personality and potency, cant wait to see what the tuners can get out of those engines now
It's the same motor..... with a tune
Incorrect young skillo
More personality? You must be joking
Great video Joe
Awesome vid!
The one we've all been waiting for... Trying to not look at the comments as I cant wait for this one.
Looking forward to this one a Tough choice to choose between them! I really like the A45S.....2nd hand bargain perhaps? 🤔
Cheers Sam, yeah potentially once the 2nd hand market settles later next year... Keep up the great vids!
@@JoeAchilles1 Thanks Joe! 👍
@@JoeAchilles1 when do you think that’ll be I’m in the market for one and just waiting
Brilliant vid both amazing cars 👍😀
Very close joe but I’m glad the rs3 has the slight edge 😀 great video
Two fantastic cars! That’s the thing mess up by a fraction of a second and you lose.My 2009 TTs mk2 when stock was the same.Audi quoted 0-60mph 5.2 secs and was actually doing 4.9s 😳 Had a REVO stage one now it’s doing 4.2 secs 🏎💨💥
Good comparison 👍🏻
good video Joe 👌
So so close between the A45s and new RS3, would be interesting to see a non aero A45s (which is the non plus plus version of the car) being drag raced, I recon the A45s would have more of a chance if not a win.. less weight and no drag from the aero kit. Also real cool to see how the cars pull from a rolling start, brilliant video non the less
Wouldn't make a difference.
@@evrensokmener6768 electric seats heavier, glass roof heavier, added aero kit heavier, don’t know about selective damping or the upgraded sound system would be heavier, but all that would definitely make a difference
Merc is heavier and around 3 years old
@@pappi187 if you read my comment properly I wasn’t comparing the weight between the rs3 and A45s I was comparing the A45s extras on the car compared to what you get with the non plus plus A45s. That maybe true but the 45s still pulls better on a rolling start😅
This Merc is lighter than this RS3 guys, watch again.
Awesome both!
Excellent video, Joe! This is the perfect review that I wanted to see, so thank you! I have to say for all the better technical specifications the A45s has it is a disappointment, but my only conclusion to that is the A45s is heavier and it has more gears to go through, which explains why the drag race favours the RS3. On the flip side, this would be a detriment to the RS3 on the rolling race as the A45s, with more gears, will encounter peak torque sooner. I would still choose the A45s for pure looks alone, but you can’t ignore the 5 cylinder in the RS3.
@@user-js2dr9gv1u I very much doubt it’s purely down to it being a daily. I hate to quote technical specification but the RS3 is quicker to 60mph. The RS3 was gapping the A45s on the rolling race. This was also proved on carwow. It’s subject to how you want view it, but I don’t believe the A45s would’ve lost too many horses from being a farmers daily. Maybe a new A45s would’ve done slightly better but I think the outcome would’ve been similar.
@@user-js2dr9gv1u if you believe a car being daily driven makes it lose power or become slower I have some magic beans for sale…
@@MixedUpChocolate I think rolling races it all depends on speed and gear, as on carwow ones rs3 pulled slightly ahead of a45s then they were matched. Whereas on this one at lower speed you can see the a45s pulls ahead of the rs3. On a drag they’re very evenly matched but does like the rs3 is a fraction quicker there. Probably down to weight as I’m sure Carwow said a45s was heavier.
Both super machines and not sure how the A45s is a disappointment really. The RS3 is a newer car and chances are Audi used the A45s at some point as a benchmark prior to release. I’m sure AMG will make the facelift quicker and Audi will do same. It’s an endless battle, so owners won’t care much about which is fractionally quicker. if we are talking about sound however, that 5 cylinder does not disappoint.
@@nbb6609 That 4 cylinder doesn’t sound too bad either, its a nice high pitched sound.
Even with the PPF, the RS3 sounds so good I wonder if those who think the A45 is the best sounding Hot Hatch are deaf. 😉🤘💗
That audi 5 cyl is *chefs kiss*
Opf?
You mean opf
You are lying to yourself if u think the RS3 with an opf sounds good, maybe from the speakers on the inside , but from the outside it sounds like a corsa.
because OPF is now placed closer to the engine. This way they could tune the sound with OPF in mind. While on old one it was placed somewhere on exhaust and that's it
Gassed for the video saw the notification 🤣💯
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Great vid. The Audi looks seriously impressive. Best new hot hatch in your opinion?
I'd still take the A45S
RS3...modded no comparison and 5 cyl is bulletproof
Ordered my rs3 today.. now I have to wait for 8 months 😂 can't wait !
Hey Joe, any chance of a track test between these two? I personally don't really trust Audi's claimed Nurburgring record because it was done with a pro driver, while the A45S' run was done by a press driver. Would be cool to see what these cars can do with the same driver.
I took the Carwow video with a pinch of salt, thinking the driver of the A45S wasn't used to the car, but this is very conclusive
Yeah aside from in gear low down pulls, the RS 3 is noticeably quicker... 👌
Excellent, good vid Joe! Got to admit I don't quite get how the audi is quicker in a drag race when it's a bit heavier, has a bit less power, and has the same torque. What is that then, the drivetrain, how quick it revs, the gear ratios, the tyres? I'm amazed at the power these engines generate, 420bhp rom a turbo 2.0L in the Merc. I remember the old Ford Sierra Cosworth which was thought of as amazing in it's day for producing 205bhp from a turbo 2.0L.
RS3 probably makes more power than claimed.
Great Vid Joe, out of curiosity what are the MPG's on both cars?
Is that the carwow track ?! Nice video !
The A45s is absolutely stunning inside and out especially in that matt grey paint ❤ 😍 I'd buy it every time over the RS3.
Yeah, i agree. RS3 looks cheap and bland next to it.
Get the RS3 in the same colour and the carbon Black and its the RS3 for me. It just doesn't look like a hairdressers car inside like the Merc. Sorry it too overstyled and the two tablets and milk mouse graphics hasn't aged well. Still two ridiculously fast cars in any company but I would wager the RS3 is quicker around a track too.
Agreed
@@Gez492 what a stupid comment. Hairdresser interior? The cheap looking kia gloss black grill won't go away by getting the car in grey.
Yup. The new RS3 looks like it's trying too much to look edgy
Would love to see the New RS3 Vs TTRS since the TTRS is both quicker and faster than the previous RS3 and also does a 3.4 0-60
Actually the TTRS is not quicker than the new (2022) RS3. I've seen 3.1 from the new RS3, it hooks better than the old one
Yeah lets start from 30 and You was doing 25 good rewiew thanks
Nice Joe, which one would you have out of the two?
Would the size of the engines have anything to do with the difference? 1991 v 2.5
Love to see this against the TT RS
I'm digging the new RS3. I can't wait to see more track test to see if it really doesn't have understeer. From my understanding us in the US will only be offered the sedan.
It's crazy that we get the sedan here, it actually looks better! Normally they don't give the "good stuff" to the US, but the saloon is where it's at!
Great video Joe, these are the tests people want to see! Need to watch the 1st drive, at least the RS3 has a more interesting engine but they would never be getting £60k of my money for either!
Cheers man, I wish I could afford and justify doing more drag racing videos 🏁
The Audi RS3 is a gorgeous car , but for 61,000 pounds (105,000 in Canada) , I’d have to strike it rich in crypto to justify paying that kind of money
@@winstonwinston3487 look for an s3 and be just as happy! 15k or more cheaper than the RS3, slap a tune on it and it's just as fast...just doesn't sound like the 5 cylinder. It's a BLAST though! I got the last model 8v generation before this new upgrade lowered the interior quality some.
@@dubsessed9790 unfortunately I prefer the hot hatch body type which will never be in Canada
@@dubsessed9790 Just a tune doesnt get you to be equivalent to an RS3. I have a stage 1+ golf R which is as fast as an S3 when stock, and I have a few minor mods done to it and based on what Im reading I could maybe do 3.8 to 60. The RS3 beats that and also has lots of better extras like suspension and exhaust and intercooler and interior so no a simple tune does not turn an S3 into an RS3. :) But yes a tuned S3 would be a very nice and fast car.
Love the detail in the drag races wonder how the new M240 would go with the in gear races against both!?
carwow videos show that the baby m240i is holding its own against the new RS3. Such a pity i was hoping that the RS3 would be a lot faster….
You have the 1 feet rollout option ?
Another great video Joe! Do we know when BMW will announce the New M2, I think it’ll be a difficult choice between that & this new RS3!
It's a strange thing to even consider, but if BMW hadn't reduced the rear seat room in the new 2er vs the old one, it would be an easy choice to say M2. Since the new 2er is less practical than its predecessor, though, it makes the new torque-splitting RS3 that much harder to refuse.
superb review compared to the one matt done at carwow, like i said yiannis body weight was slowing the a45s down in mats review, keep up the great content👍👍👌👌
But the Audi is already heavier with less power..
I love your videos
Are those the stock AMG brakes or carbon ceramics?
Very good vid!!, I am a bit of a A45S fan boy, but the new RS3 is very impressive!
Excellent video joe, how do these 2 compare to the m340i saloon? Would they destroy it in a straight line!
Cheers Liam! They're probably 0.6 - 0.7 seconds quicker over the quarter mile, so not night and day, but noticeable. 👌🏼
@@JoeAchilles1 would you say removing the standing start from the race, would make things a lot closer? Then hatches get off the line extremely well!
I don’t think it’s 0.6 - 0.7 maybe about 0.2. M340i can do the quarter in 12.2, these two are 12 - 12.1 Watch carwows video, an m340i estate is only 0.1 slower than a a45s
Great video ! Next drag race : RS3 vs A45s vs M2CS vs Cayman GT4 ?
I don't have the budget for the, Carwow basically shot that already.
@@JoeAchilles1 yes you're right but Matt uses an M2 comp instead of the M2 CS 😅👍
Great vid! I wish the RS3 wagon was available in Canada. So disappointed it’s not. What were the 1/4 mile times/trap speeds for each?
It's not a Wagon it's a hatchback
Bro if you ever use the word wagon again I will have you barred from the British isles
@@badman7711 he's Canadian
Haha sorry we call those wagons in Canada or hatchbacks. Estate? Hatchback? Wagon? Whichever term I wish it was available over here.
Im in love with my 45s, bat new RS3 is extremely cool :)
Amazing video as always Joe! Good to the that the competition is ready to take on the ultimate A45S! 🔥
Love the videos! Wish we had the a45s here in America hahhaha! keep it up though!!
Cheers man, great cars the A45's 👌🏼
They only give us the ugly banana CLA. :(
The rolling drags are likely linked to gearing - the merc has an extra gear so 2nd will be shorter in the merc (hence accelerate quicker) than 2nd in the Audi. Both have large turbos so I doubt there’s a significant difference in lag but potentially more down to the gearing. Another good one joe. Nice.
Exactly what I was about to comment. The first three gears on the AMG A45S are incredibly short. The Audi might have a bit more lag as this is a known characteristic of this engine configuration, but the short gearing on the A45S is really what made the difference there.
Would be interesting to know what the difference in revs is rolling at 40.
@@plakic yer that would be good. An interior shot looking at the dials would have helped confirm or refute my suspicions
The AMG has a twin scroll turbo which reduces lag.
Never understood why channels like this don't invest in some kind of equipment that minimises driver input. What do I mean? Have two dash mounted clocks/displays of some kind so that each driver can concentrate on hitting the gas/brakes when an in cockpit display says the time is right rather than when some guy with a radio, (who knows exactly when he's going to say, "three"), is ready to hit the pedal. Those devices could synchronise so that when one car actually delays getting of the line the clock will show the real time/distance that has elapsed.
Have a wonderful weekend 😘
Did the new bmw 240i xdrive feel much slower than these two? i really like the look of the new 240 in that purple and like 10k less money!
Would also be interested to here your opinion on the above Joe! 👍
Nice to see someone accepting the loss (no offense Matt from Carwow)😉
Great Video, Joe. Thank you ! I always wonder why do you guys use walkie-talkie? Why not communicate via mobile phone (using Bluetooth)? Much safer as well..
Cheers man. Mobile phone calls are between 1-3 seconds delayed making it impossible to get timing right.
RS3中尾怎麼會輸A45s...是不是可以更正一下😅
Thanks for doing the weejio I suggested.
NEW RS3 IS CRAZY..OH MY GOD
Joe is #onit #HAACTIVE w these vids
Loved the video!! But you need another person, who would do the count downs. Because you always will be getting better starts.
Looks wise! I like the AMG buh that 5 cylinder soundtrack is legendary!!
I will say that both are amazing!
I was interested in getting an RS3 at the start of 2021 but at that time Audi didnt have one on the market, they were no longer making the previous model and were being very close mouthed about the new one. Try as I might, I was unable to get any details out of them, no projected price figures, no performance figures, nothing! The only thing I did get was that it would likely be a very long delivery time if I bought one. I never did get one though, I was on the forecourt of a local sports car showroom (looking at a BMW M2) when the sales guy started up the C63 convertible next to it and that was me hooked, I've had it over a year now and love it
So given that the performance of both cars are pretty much like for like and you've now driven both, if it were your 60k which would you buy? Me id go for the Mercedes, the i interior just feels that bit more special than the Audi that and the fact you can have different colour leather seats if you wish in the Mercedes
I think the opposite about the dash, A45s has a 50inch tv stuck on top of dash, ugly, I agree about seats though, the nappa leather on Audi is superb but not enough colour options
The facelift A45s has some work todo! Love the 5cylinder but AMG at heart.. another cracking video 🙏🏼👌🏼
They don't really have much to do tbh. It's older to this new RS3 n still performs very well. Audi we just playing catch up. I think mercedes really have Audi where they want them. Facelift will definitely do some damage again.
@@neomalcom6464 Audi playing catch up? No my guy. You probably forgot the RS3 was there looong before the A45 name Mercedes is playing catch up🤣. Since the first A45 came out, Mercedes was slower with every generation. And you saying Audi is playing catch up🤔...clearly Audi is doing alot more with less and its clear which car is better engineered. So your argument of the A45 being older is made even more irrelevant because it still technically have more power and less weight which already gives it a massive advantage. Also a cars engine needs to be "run in" when new so the A45 has an even bigger advantage because the RS3's engine isnt operating at 100% yet
@@jacquincedras bro😿a45s is heavier with more hp but less torque and the engine is under more stress than that 5pot.
@@ode1854 no bro. Both the A45s and the RS3 have 500nm of torque according to merc and Audi. And the engine size doesn't determine which one is more/less under stress. Technically the A45s have more power so actually the Audi's engine is struggling more because its weaker and have to pull more weight
@@jacquincedras bro what...