New Restrictions & Las Vegas Intake Study Lake Mead UPDATE April 2023
Welcome back Colorado River Watchers! In this water level report, we’ll learn about new restrictions and conservation measures for the 2023 water year that just became active for the Las Vegas valley. We’ll also look at the effects of all the record rain and snow not only upstream from Lake Mead, but also for users in cities downstream. At the end, find out why the newer “3rd intake” at Lake Mead which supplies Las Vegas may be in need of an expensive modification already!
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Top water users in the Las Vegas valley revealed
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Draining Las Vegas: Here is who's using the most water in valley
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Snowpack reaches 158% of normal
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Water restrictions lifted for millions in SoCal, but region still urged to conserve
www.latimes.com/environment/s...
Tier 2a Water Shortage & USBR Operational Neutrality
www.azcentral.com/story/opini...
Lake Mead 3rd Intake May No Longer be Deep Enough
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People in Las Vegas community estimated to pay around $11,000 to remove tree and grass
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Lake Mead Water Level
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Lake Powell Water Level
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0:00 Intro
0:58 Las Vegas Conservation
2:37 Top 100 Water Users
3:27 Water Level Report
4:45 Water Level in 2000
5:03 New Restrictions
5:40 Water Waste Flag
6:10 Restricions Lifted
7:07 Current Outlook
7:43 USBR Reduction Tiers
8:31 3rd Intake Study
9:59 SUPERTHANKS
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**SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO OUR SUPERTHANKS VIEWER: Stephen Jackson** Thank you for helping us to create more content! Where do you think Lake Mead's level is headed after all this record rain and snow in 2023? Will we see a much needed recovery, or are we headed towards more drought, aridification, and water loss??
Great information that I've not found anywhere else. I especially appreciate the info about how the yearly snow pack melt affects the upstream flow of water.
Glad it was helpful! It really is all about that snowpack. Of course we'll take all the rain too! Thank you for watching 👍
@@mojo.adventures Those aquifers are now full or are they?
We just had our water restrictions removed, had been 1 day a week lawn watering, now it's water all you want,,we don't seem to learn , very informative report
Lawn watering is not only a waste of a precious resource, it's just plain stupid. Who cares how green your grass is when they can't power your house anymore?
I live in Southern California and I am very mindful of conserving water. It makes me so mad that our governor lifted the ban. We have had only one good season of rain. We need several years of good rain. We must continue to conserve. I will continue conserving. 😊
And if he continued with restrictions with reservoirs nearly full you'd call him a tyrannical dictator, and claim he needed to go.
@@ktpinnacle Demand the restoration of Tulare lake as the EPA requires. So cal need to be shut off.
Agree. I'm in the SF Bay Area so we are not getting water from Mead or the Colorado river basin but water up here is scarce as well. I was very disappointed that restrictions were lifted. My wife and I have long been conservers of water (and everything else we use). No need for conspicuous consumption of drinking water or electricity. I was thinking of a move to the PHX area (55+ suburban community) but can't stomach the waste of water on all the golf courses those communities all have.
@@patmcdonald766 Not aware that the EPA or the Regional Board requires such "restoration." Is there anything you've got to read that shows this directive?
@@camk6566 The removal of some emergency restrictions doesn't mean that conspicuous consumption is now being encouraged by Sacramento. www.gov.ca.gov/2023/03/24/governor-newsom-eases-drought-restrictions/
My prayers have been answered.
Southern California also takes water from northern Ca. We up here had to suffer with drought restrictions while the flow to So Cal had to be maintained. Opinion: So Cal should be made to abide by the same restrictions as the rest of us. I had to let my lawn die while they kept filling up thier pools and hosing down driveways.
CC.Not all of us. I have no pool, my grass what there is of it is brown, my " front lawn" has been drought tolerant for 5y years and I have cut back 20 percent as my water district mandated.The water district lifted the restrictions but I still follow the old rules. I live in Ventura County BTW.
@@tagbarzeev8283 Thanks, I'm glad to here someone cares..
@@CC-kr2fs Your welcome
You don't know what you're talking about. We have been on restrictions for years, and they don't allow any watering of driveways. In San Diego, we cut our consumption in half and pool use was restricted by pricing increases.
Bitter bitter..
Thank you for the info.
Glad you are back ,very enjoyable. Thank you.
I like the way u do #'s no bs just6 the #'s ands what they mean More ppl need to see this
Excellent just what I'm going for 👍 Hope it was informative!
Great reporting of the facts as know and great historical documentation.
Great informative video as always. Love the dog cameo at the end. 🐕
Hehe she loves lake days 😎 Thanks Dawn good to see ya back for another update!
Well done! Love the West!
Thank you!!!
Great information! Thank you for assembling this data. New subscriber
When all the snow run off starts to hit Nevada you will see a nice rise in lake Mead I'm looking forward to it
very little runoff from nv goes into the colorado river(lake mead)--lake mead gets it water from utah,colorado,wyoming
@@dethray1000 The commenter didn't state the runoff came from mountains in Nevada. re-read the comment.
Thank you for this information, I live in Tucson , yet I believe what you are reporting on effects Tucson too. More studies are needed.
great reporting!
Thank you for the video
Oh! So Good! in a bad situation. Here in Baja California, the last spigot on the line, I am most concerned with the health of everything all the way to Colorado. What I wasn't completely clear about was the 3 intake on Mead. The 2nd was exposed, and if the lake drops they want to have the 3rd one. But didn't I hear you say that this would drop the level so that no water would flow to the basin states and us here in Baja? Remember Mexico gave up 75 miles of a nature river flowing into the gulf because of the damming. Would they really use the 3rd intake and leave us dry down here? Keep up the good work!
Hey again Martina! Great question! I can see where it is a bit unclear, I didn't go in depth here because I covered the intake system in our very first update, but I'd be glad to explain it a bit better here too 👍 The 3 intake system shown in this update the residential/city water system, and across the lake at Hoover Dam you have the power turbine intakes. The "3rd intake" (~850 ft) shown here is lower than the Hoover Dam intakes (~950 ft) so *if* water levels got that low, water indeed could not flow to AZ and CA, and downstream to you. But Las Vegas COULD still get water. It is "Intake #1" only that is exposed. I know the animation here shows the water level falling below "Intake #2" but that is just hypothetical. The 2nd intake is still submerged. They haven't had to rely on Intake 3 fully, but I think they want to make 100% sure it's ready to handle maximum capacity when time. I don't see it as a case of Las Vegas leaving you all dry down there though! This is because of the very low amount of river water Las Vegas uses (and then returns) to Lake Mead. Compared to the rest of the river as you already know it is a drop in the bucket. If the lake and river was overused to the point Mead reaches deadpool, at that point the Las Vegas usage isn't going to matter much. We could test this calculating the difference in water use if we assumed Las Vegas disappeared off the map and all of Southern Nevada didn't use 1 more drop of river water. Unfortunately Lake Mead still would not recover at this rate with Las Vegas gone. If you turned off the tap to Hoover Dam however, Lake Mead could easily fill in a short period even with Las Vegas using it's full allotment of water from Intake #3. As you already know also, I'm hoping the downstream AG use gets checked first so neither of us gets to that point! I am worried in CA they are headed towards water wars between the long time senior AG water rights districts, and the big cities/population centers and their residential use. Throw the USBR and a river compact lawsuit into the mix also. I have no idea how that legal battle would play out...
this is absolutley great
I love the way your beautiful doggy turns to get one last look at the lake, as you are heading home.
Cruising the lake is her absolute favourite! She made a coyote friend that day, I think she was saying bye 😂
thank you for this very interesting and informative video
appreciate you watching and commenting 👍
Food for thought: In California, homes and city infrastructure account for somewhere around 12% of the total water usage.
Bingo folks forgets Cali supplies 80 % of the nation’s fruits and vegetables corporate owners green giant Dole and many others to include the wine industry
@@kencleg7721 yep
@@kencleg7721 not to mention a huge amount of very water intensive dairy and beef... And beer!
Don’t forget those thirsty almonds.
12% is still too much, watering lawns if other states are rationing water and loosing there laws and way of life so California can water thiers. Keep your restrictions up until we are way out of the drought.
Very informative, thank you!
Right on thanks for checking it out! 👍
thank you for the update..
You betcha! Appreciate the support 👍
Glad you are able to film. All of the other YT'ers have stopped b/c of the governmental restrictions.
Eyyy there eh! Just watching from Canada. Hope you guys get filled up 💪
Thank you our Northerly Neighbor!👍 I suppose depending on where you're at there, you probably didn't have much of a mild winter either 🥶 Here's to a beautiful spring and bountiful fall to all of us!
Excellent report, thank you
Appreciate you watching and taking a moment to comment!👍
Thank you, once again, so much for your professional analysis & updates! Your team is doing the Lord's work here in the West! As a subscriber in the Greater Phoenix area, your channel is my primary go-to resource for current & anticipated water levels in the CO River, Powell & Mead. It would be exciting (to me, at least) if you could, perhaps, include an animation showing current level against the original high water mark, and then speculate on where Powell level MIGHT be (using a range) once this year's deep snowpack melts. (You guys are lot smarter than me, so I trust you'd include such an animation if it was viable.) Either way, I'm feel strongly encouraged at the progress this winter's wet season gave us Arizonans! Thank you again!! Looking forward to seeing the 2023 water line get a little closer to that "Lake Mead Water Line 2000" sign!
Wow thanks! Appreciate the kind words 👍 It helps us to stay motivated. I can assure you that no one here is a lot smarter then you, and we have several failed tries at college to prove that 😎 We're just people who are around the desert, river, and lakes a lot, sad to see everything that's happening. Thank you for the suggestion also regarding the lake animation! I didn't think of that. Perhaps something for the future for sure! We are new to all of this editing and much better at just being out there exploring the wilderness 🤠 Hope to see you in a future update!
i love these videos so much
Hey right on thanks for dropping by again! 👍
Thanks!
Really appreciate that!👍 Your support will help us create more of this content. We will be sure to add you to the credits of next update also!
My understanding is that water was held at Powell to maximize power production during periods of highest demand.
Nice Report.
Excellent report.
Thanks for watching!👍
@@mojo.adventures I recently saw a report on my local news station were they talked about that lake that you did a video on and they interviewed a realtor and he was happily talking about all the houses that they are going to build by the lake waterfront. I live in San Diego CA. So I immediately remembered you coverage of that man made lake.
I'd like to know what studies have been done that water wise landscaping works. In my way of thinking, if you plant a desert you get a desert. Trees, grass, etc. release moisture into the atmosphere creating more precipitation. Maybe that doesn't work in an area that is primarily desert but in areas of Southern California I think that water wise landscaping is creating a more arrid climate. It would be interesting if meteorologists would create controlled environments to see the long-term effects of various climates with and without water wise landscapes.
Arizona publishes guides for desert and low water plants. My bushes take 3 gallons a week but my two orange trees take about 30 a week. The yard is maintained with less than 100 gallons a week or about one person uses a day.
I live in Phoenix for 7 years and the number of swimming pools I saw was alot. Arizona should be on the same or stricter rules for water use.
Right on thanks for commenting! 👍 We are hoping to learn a lot more about what is actually going on with usage in other basin states. We can only really report what is going on in Southern Nevada. A lot of folks new to the topic are quick to blame Las Vegas, but don't realize there is much more blame to go around everywhere along the river. Appreciate you watching!
Take some time to look into Saudi Arabian alfalfa farming in the southwest deserts. After 5 minutes of research talking about residential use and swimming pools will become irrelevant IMHO.
@@mojo.adventures I wrote a comment above, hopefully you'll see it. It explains the proper context of the SNWA's policies.
@@jerrywalter8390 You are correct. Municipal usage, which obviously includes pools, lawns, etc., is pretty minimal in the scheme of things. In fact, per the USGS, it's roughly 12% of usage(and going down). Cities like Las Vegas reclaim & recycle more than 90% of their potable water usage. The BOR's own data states that over 80% of the water usage is in agricultural irrigation, and as you correctly pointed out, with Alfalfa using a significant percentage of it. Weird how out Govt ever allowed country's like Saudi Arabia to do what they're doing. Also, I wrote another post above explaining the SNWA's policies so that people would understand the context of those policies.
@@jerrywalter8390 I hope All private swimming pools go the way of the dodo.
Australian scientists estimate that the Tonga volcano (early 2022) added approximately 5% more water to the planetary atmosphere. It would be reasonable to assume this is having an effect on precipitation all over the place. Further, they expect it to take until the end of the decade to get back to "normal."
False. There is a finite amount of water on the planet. We have the same # of water molecules as the Dino's had. No more, no less. Trading fresh water for salt water, that is what we are good at, eh?!
@@jeffdana9402 Sharyn said it added 5% more to the *atmosphere*, not to the system as a whole. A bit like melting a bit of ice at the poles. It adds more water to the oceans but the total amount of water on the planet does not change.
That explains the historic droughts in China?
@@mrbeaverstate It might explain them in the same way that global warming tries to explain cold snaps. You know the theory: warming creates more moisture creates more convection leading to moisture falling as snow. Or something like that. Warm leads to icy cold is the basic idea. Counterintuitive but perfectly reasonable given the ideological context. So lots of water in the atmosphere, given the right ideological imperatives, could certainly lead to droughts. I think we all need to relax and accept that anything is possible given multiple inputs into a highly volatile system resulting in counterintuitive outcomes, especially when those outcomes are dependent upon multiple highly lucrative funding inputs, those funding inputs being directly tied and correlated to outcomes that require further effort and funding to achieve the same conclusions.
@@jeffdana9402 Most of the earths water is locked up in rocks.
There was a guy that got on Fox5 this morning and he said "WATER CONSERVATION" works and it helps water level... uh yeaaahhh! water conservation have been working since 20-25 years ago! but the fact that builders squeezing as much homes as they can to whatever small patch of land left in the valley is not being addressed!!! SMFH
I've been super curious how the water has been lately, with all the rain and what not.
Yeah it's pretty wild the rain is still coming and going! Last year it was hot already, I remember I was miserable working outside 😂
Thank you for the report, And glad the City is addressing extreme water use...
Of course, we appreciate the support thanks for stopping in to leave a comment!👍
Really Great information. I follow Lake Mead water levels as I would like to move to Vegas but am concerned about the water situation. As a Coloradoan, as you mentioned, we have had record snow in the mountains which is wonderful for the states downstream. We heard they will fill Lake Powell first which I'm not sure why they wouldn't share the wealth this year since Mead is so Low. It's starting to warm up here so water is on the way!
I live on vegas, even at Deadpool we still getvall our water. Thanks to the vision 15 years ago of smart water managers here. CA will be screwed.
@@desert8285 CA has an ocean to work with. They can't suck it dry.
@@desert8285 we have enough water here to last until 2048- thats when san diego water authority will begin mandatory cutbacks. i'm 65 years old- WHO'S going to be screwed??
Thanks Sam! Appreciate you watching and leaving a comment. I too was a bit riled up few years back there was a lot of hype going around about Las Vegas going dry and "Time to get out!". Lots of clickbait type stuff you can still find on here. That is when I started looking further into the intake system and deadpool and everything. As another commentor mentioned, the river will go dry for everyone downstream, including AZ and CA, before Las Vegas loses it's water. The only thing really that can affect Las Vegas water... is those old pipes at Glen Canyon Dam that will choke the supply. If you check out our "Behind the Drought 2 / Lake Powell" episode I go into depth on it. That is the main reason the USBR wants to "fill Powell first", otherwise like you said it doesn't make any sense. Hopefully there is some kind of plan created soon to fix the piping, so operation can get back to normal and give Mead a break for once!
Australia here. we know all about droughts. wishing you a few good down drops. God bless
Thank you, we could use it! Desert heat is ramping up this week. You sure do know about these droughts also, I keep watch on the weather events around the globe. I hope you all are a bit better equipped to deal with it than us at least! This is a yearly thing... as soon as it rains everyone forgets and goes about their merry way until summer. We'll see what the Lake Looks like come August... I appreciate you tuning in from Australia and good blessings to you as well out there friend!
at moment we are going through ELNINO. BEEN cold n wet last three years. Autumn here now cold and miserible. but wont last long. good luck your side. dont worry it will rain. just wait. we know whats it like when we go thru a ten year drought. but that;s nature. Good luck and God bless
I like your update her dog keep an ion stuff 😁
I’m in UT but I get my water from the Wasatch, which lies completely within UT’s exclusive water basin that flows into Gt Salt Lake. We do not have any water restrictions, but I do wish we had water patrol here. The complex I live at waters 5x per week. They would have turned on the sprinklers by now if they weren’t buried in snow. Thank God.
I understand that Great Salt Lake is almost totally dry so maybe you should be looking at water usage.
@@JacquiBinfordBell It is low, but “almost dry” is an exaggeration. It reached its lowest point last Fall. It was about half its median surface area (it does naturally fluctuate quite a bit). You’ve probably seen all the comparisons to its 1980’s level. That was actually severe flood stage. No one wants it back to those levels. A “healthy” elevation would be 4,198 ft. We got as low as 4,188 but are back over 4,190. This year’s abundant snow pack is estimated to bring it up another 3-4 ft when it finally melts. So we’ll still be short, but certainly an improvement. They did just pass legislation that allows water rights to be leased to the lake and provides funds for the government to procure water rights for the lake. The lake has now been legally designated as a beneficial user, giving it a seat at the table. There are also turf buyback programs. I’d like to see exponential water surcharges as usage goes up to discourage excessive water waste (particularly from golf courses or properties like where I live). They are starting to take steps toward replenishing the lake, but there is more to be done.
@@jayc222 It's definitely something we need to address as population rises in both the Salt Lake and Utah valleys. A snow year like this is great, but we're still deep in drought even with all this snow. It would take more than a few seasons in a row to break the drought. So if we now have another several years of much less than average snowpack, any benefits from this year disappear extremely quickly. So I too am glad (I live here too) to see them actually starting to take steps. My fear is this extreme snow year is going to make most residents ignore the issues underlying everything.
Sounds like they need to ban all automatic garden watering systems in homes for a few years. If people had to actually stand and water the garden they would soon drop the usage
I wish there were more people like you in Utah! The biggest water users in the country, and so the Great Salt Lake, and the countless migratory birds that depend on it, are about to die.
Regarding water management in the desert we should always conserve if we live in town or don't run a farm.
I remember visiting Lake Mead in 1998 when it was full. I hope it doesnt take 30-some odd years to fill like it did the first time.
Sadly, it'll take a lot more than time to fill a system that is failing. it cannot be reversed. The best case is a continued decline but at a slower rate. The demand is off the charts and with current usage, the lake would never have filled.
There should be a shot off valve to California from receiving Colorado River water that feeds Lake mead!
I have a photo of my mom and grandmother at the south spillway in 1983.
You might consider describing what is shown in the picture you mention. Without a description, most have no idea the significance of your comment.
@@jimw1615 water was going over the spillway at the time
Thank you for this information. I understand that even though after the 10 year study proving that Lake Powell is losing 40% of the water intended for storage, they will continue to control the water and send just enough to Hoover Dam to keep us barely above dead pool. What was the purpose of the 10 year study? Why is Lake Mead not the main retention basin? Politics!
Super information. I’m suprised about the situation in the USA. However in Europe we have the same problems in Italy. I would sugest a system where snow would be compacted to ice and specially be stored on north sides of mountains. And probably we have to build a number of pipelines north south.
What situation? Everyone else is fine in the USA except for the ones who built in a desert and expected unlimited water.
@@Bryan-Hensley water is the mean source of life. I’m used to an abundance of water. If that changes I can point to others but still will need to adapt. In Zwitserland they try to cover gletsjers with plastic to save them. They had the most snow ever a few years ago, but it melted in weeks. But keep smiling.
Oklahoma has had times of drought as well but not as severe as your getting but I hope you get out of that drought
Golf courses. Artificial water features. Evaporative cooling. Natural grass. Swimming pools. New casinos, businesses, bars and restaurants, warehouses, housing developments and nonstop development projects as far as the eyes can see!
I’ve been living in Utah for 19 years. I have not heard of any major changes in water restrictions yet.
It would be interesting to know if California is using more /less/or the same compared to last year from Lake Mead. I thought there is a system coming from lake Mead called the Colorado aqueduct. Maybe you could do a report on this to what those amounts are. After all it affects the lake big time.
Good suggestions! The USBR does publish usage projections with their weekly reports. The Colorado River aqueduct gets it's supply from the Whitsett Pump Plant at Lake Havasu shown in the video. Lake Havasu is ALWAYS full, even with Mead tanking. Funny how that works...
When we went through the last drought, we drained our washer machine onto our lawns. We just ran a drain hose to a longer drain hose out to the front yard and moved it around. We didn’t have to water because the laundry machines used water draining kept it watered.
How did the plants cope with the detergent?
@@joehacker6412 there was no change. We asked at our local nursery and they said that the detergent would actually help keep aphids away from the yard and plants. It did! We didn’t drain the bleach loads onto the lawn, so I can’t speak to that.
It's amazing it took this long to force conservation of water in a desert.
It's been going on for over 3 decades. With respect, were you not paying attention? The new policies are just updated policies that in reality, don't change anything much.
@@Bouncer-id1rh Yeah the points where change is required are pretty lenient. Maybe the drought will be over soon like in CA? Ultimately, it is desert and too many people are using the colorado. Thousands of years ago when there was a sustained drought, people packed up and left. Now they say if you drive electric cars it will be OK.
@@Clearanceman2 Look, the water usage is primarily by people who don't live in the desert. It's not the desert populations using the water. Hell, cities like Las Vegas only receive a 1.8% water allocation per the compact, and don't even draft their entire allotment. The water is being used to produce agriculture-over 80% per the BOR's own data. That water is contributing to the food supply of over 700 million people world wide-including yours. Also, you're obviously not aware that the term drought has more than one definition. I know you're thinking drought means what is called "meteorological" drought. Well, the primary drought designation by NOAA the last 20 plus years has ACTUALLY been Agricultural & Hydrological drought. The Meteorological designation wasn't made until 2019. Virtually 99% misunderstand this.
I remember years ago when California had a drought. We could not wash our vehicles and could water the lawn every other day. But there are always those above the rest. Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell left their water running for a week on their lawn. Yes, they were fined. In Nevada we had restrictions during one summer and the people across the street watered their lawn every day. Many of us will comply while just as many disregard limits. This is interesting. I was wondering how Lake Mead was fairing . it is scary to see how mother nature can give and take away. It should be a lesson to not take the planet for granted.
Unfortunately in Arizona, only the farmers has been restricted in their usage. The public here tend to still waste a lot of water. Some small municipalities that are independent but has contract with cities are being left dry since the cities are saying, they are looking out for the city first before they make water available for these isolated areas.
is water metered over there, it is in australia
very nice and informative video. , sadly water is something people take for granted until there isnt any. If I had to guess why California was not subject to the same rules i suspect politics are at play but will leave that one alone for now. on a side note you have what i call a very educational instructional voice. you could do well making instructional videos on just about anything.
It's not politics, it's about agreements made decades ago that gave the majority of the senior water rights to agricultural interests in Calif. Those agreements made states like Nevada & Arizona junior rights holders, thus the first to see cuts. It's complicated, but you can find the agreements on line that created this situation long ago.
Well said! That is the exact issue... no one will care until the tap goes dry. The reason I became so alarmed is because I have a front row seat to the loss, being right next to Lake Mead. I see it every day. I can see how users downstream don't feel like anything is wrong, because the water just keeps flowing there. It's looking pretty dire here though! Thank you for the kind comments also! I've been kicking around the idea of a podcast or doing audiobooks in the future, so I appreciate that 👍
@@mojo.adventures I have lived in places with very little water , so being able to just turn on a tap and out comes clean drinkable water is not something that should be wasted . I think you would be very good at pod casts etc you should give it a go.
CALIFORNIA has water rights because we know how to bank water- the words of the US bureau of reclamation- not mine.
Well, cali also produces food and has more than 10% of the US population. It's not purely politics. The entitlement is infuriating tho.
Superbly done. Everyone commenting seems to figure water partitioning is supposed to be logical. A typical error of good people. Politics. Many more voters in SoCal who will keep the regime continuing to drive out the productive class.
Farm and commercial use is substantially more than residential use. Then there is California's use which is insane and they have many more options not available to Vegas or Phoenix. Probably shouldn't be bottling water from Socal Aquifers either.
well, california represents over 75% of the people and 70% of the ag output in the 3 state region. Of course, companies taking advantage of *cheap* water for bottling operations in a drought area is just insane, but sadly they have almost no ability to control it.
Bottled water is one of the biggest scams there is. Fortunately, the volume pumped for this purpose is very small versus the amount used for agriculture and personal use. California has approved two desal plants (the Coastal Commission voted one down), and continues to enlarge and build additional reservoirs for capture, so it's not relying on future water years like the one just ended.
I live in socal and we do have tiers for water use. Not cheap
Are these tiers a secret, or could you maybe publish them?
The problem has been and still is CA. They have blocked resovoir building for 40 years with lawsuits. 50% of their water goes to the enviro crazies. They take 27% in the compact and vegas only get 1.5%... and we only use half that with our amazing measures in place. CA has already flushed all that flood water back into the ocean from this year because they don't have the storage Truly sad and disgusting. They also voted against the HB desalination plant because it was going to affect micro organisms. If they had built more storage that 27% might only have to be 10% allowing the upper resovoirs to fill back up, especially on a year like this. CA is a huge problem and the compact needs to be re forged . Wait to we hit dead pool. We still get our water and they won't get a drop. CA is failing on an epic level on all fronts, including financially.
If anybody was to look up the third intake documentary here on KZhead. There's a part in the video where they talk about they were 600' down underneath the lake and they started to drill horizontally and they drilled into a natural vertical fault. Water started to flood the tunnel Rising halfway up the shaft and. Submerged everything in the tunnel completely the bottom tunnel which had already started to drill and excavate into the Earth's about 200 ft. horizontally and 100 ft the opposite way of the tunnel shaft So in total 300 ft. Then halfway up the shaft another 300 ' it took them a year roughly to be able to pump all the water out and I'm guessing sieloff or plug the hole or they waited for it to drain but then they just decided to abandon that section and go a different direction and start drilling a new tunnel and that's what they did. Now mind you this is underneath Lake Mead. For me that was a red flag if you do the math on what he said how much water was entering the tunnel and for how long it calculates to a lot of acre-feet of water.. Now just because they close that part of the tunnel off does it mean at the end of that plugged or sealed section it's not still leaking we just don't know because we have not been able to see it because it's plugged off. So who knows what's or how much is draining back there and how significant that could be to the loss of water at Lake Mead? If we created a SINK HOLE @ the base of LAKE MEAD. we should just start packing now and start preparing to move away. 😣😒
nonsense
@@dethray1000 Is that you attacking the argument is that you attacking me just out of curiosity not that I feel victimized . Not for nothing but what is the purpose of your presents
@@DR_SOLO There's a bit of conspiracy in your statement. Also, just because you saw a "youtube video" doesn't mean it had all the facts correct...which is what creates conspiracies.
@@Bouncer-id1rh I'm going to do you a favor and show you the link so you can shut up and put the cotton in your mouth out of your ears and listen the people who drilled the freaking tunnel their selves homemade video the documentary themself . what is your issue? o have you even watched yet, have you? Now you can. So can everyone else!!! let me help you. Did I strike a nerve or something with something I said did you work on the tunnel personally? Do you know somebody that's affiliated with the third intake build ot the construction?
@@Bouncer-id1rh Until you watch it maybe you could just be quiet and do some fact-checking or investigation yourself do the math and tell me what my conspiracy is
Here in St George Utah it rained 3 and 1/2?wks last month, I hope this information helps 😊 also the Wasatch mountains in Utah has a glacier of ice we should always have water; just saying
Sounds like Seattle! 😧 Of course we've had storms on and off also for about that long, but as of this week I think it's all over (90°+) !! I'll have to look into where that snowmelt goes. Thanks for watching!
I live in the west san fernando valley here in LA. We faced fines that would compound if we didn't reduce our use.
At this point I don’t think any one really lives in California. They just survive.
@@zanedzikonski4234 Well you're just wrong. I know you might not like LA, but the millions who live here do. Take it from me who actually lives here.
Thank you for sharing this! It will be interesting to see whether any future restrictions target residential use, or agricultural and environmental use also. Going to be a hot summer, it's already starting here! Thanks for watching 👍
Why is California being allowed to remove water restrictions???? That is outrageous!!
Cali has been playing phuck-phuck games with the States water since the 50's
They should have to play ball just like the other states are playing by the rules
We have a lot of stinky homeless.
Because their governor is a dangerous and obtuse person.
The per capita water use in California is already about 1/4 of the per capita use in Nevada.
I lived in Israël, and water was scarce. Now i live in the Netherlands, and there is enough water. But still, last year i used 15K gallons of water. It amazes me that folks manage to use 100 times more in the desert.
It's the commodity mentality here unfortunately... there are a whole lot of privileged disconnected people. Just look at the role models for youth here. Everything is replaceable or reversible with enough money. Got a tattoo? Get it removed. Got married? Can get divorced. Use too much water? Just pay the higher fee. I don't believe anything will force people to change until they are ready to change and decide to all get onboard together. I hope it doesn't take some regions losing their water supply for that to happen. Thank you for watching from the Netherlands, beautiful country there! ✌️
The current high rain cycle of La Niña ends in summer of 2023. It weird to here someone one suggest "if the cycle continues" when referring to less water in these lakes. Those lake will dry up. San Diego's desalinization plant produces 1/5 of what Las Vegas uses from the Colorado River at a cost of $0.005 per gallon of water plus transport. The cost would be about $1 billion for the desalinization and $2 billion for pipe transport. The solution to Las Vegas is to start charging people what water really costs there, about $0.05 per gallon and a exponential price scale where demand is greater than supply.
At least they found the bodies and the lake is some what cleaner! Lol
It's cleaner *for now* but once it starts dropping over the summer, a whole new collection of trash and boats will emerge!
Tucson , as far as I know does not have an active fine for excessive water use. The golf courses all water with waste water from the water system at the Sweetwater sewage plant. No new golf corses are planned and one has actually been turned into a natural park without a water resource. Local farmers have taken the biggest hit with the water cut to less than half of last years usage. Although Northern Arizona has received more rain and snow from this years weather systems. Southern Arizona received much less. Any man made resvores have not shown any marked increase in water levels.
I know in Arizona right now they're releasing water out of the salt River and the Verde. The last time they did this but I can't remember how many years ago it was, that gave Mexico it's treaty allotment of water so more was able to stay in the Colorado reservoirs. So hopefully that'll happen again. As for the metropolitan water district in Southern California they are using California aqueduct water to fill up diamond valley Lake. That was built back in the '90s for situations just like we're in. As for people commenting on the city of Los Angeles I'm pretty sure the majority of their water comes from the Owens River valley.
Just remember as has happened in other parts of the country when asked to cut water, people are usually good at doing what is asked. This results in loss of income for the water companies due less usage which in turn then get rate increases passed against the will of the people. When the emergencies are over and things return to normal water wise, the higher rates are NEVER rescinded.
The users who use most, residential, who bought all this property to maintain should capture their additional needs for landscaping from winter rains. The City can mandate this in building codes.
not disputing the need for residential users to capture winter rainwater, but in arizona, 74% of the water usage is for agriculture, california is 80/20 and nevada is 70/30.
It sounds like Las Vegas is being very responsible.
Once it became a disaster….
Now you need to Get Statistics of up river usage on golf courses Mega homes And resort Hotels And private Lakes see all the people that are wasting water Don't forget the malls that water their plants and let the water go out in the street They should Major finds for everyone wasting water water is a very precious resource as we've come to learn
Its looks likely if possible an other water source may have to be considered with a great cost and time comming from uncle sam, a water purification plant using sea water?
Would it be feasible to build canals and tunnels to collect discharges from the catchment zone higher elevations, e.g. lake Oroville?
LA should not be taking any Colorado river water this year. California has more water than they know what to do with.
Its all part of one system, plus cali has rights to it, thats what they agreed on.
Cali refused to join the other 6 states in a new compact. They should forfeit ANY water from the Colorado.
As a Southern California resident, SoCal shouldn’t get any of the Colorado Rivers water.
Now would be the time to really figure out the whole desal thing. The water banks are full, a little time has been bought, there is record funny money infrastructure bills flying around everywhere. Santa Barbara already figured it out somehow... aren't they part of California? I don't see the logic of lifting restrictions and carrying on like usual... it's just willfull destruction at this point!
ahh our stupid blue gooberment here in commifornia likes to fill the ocean with water,ofcourse our goob'ner gets all the water he needs for his wineries
at 5:14 I was very surprised to see how ridiculously cheap water is in Las Vegas $1.64/1000gal. For comparison, water in Edmonton Alberta (where there is no water shortage) is $8.82/1000gal in CAD.
I've been hearing that a lot lately! I guess those numbers shed light on why there is so much excess use...
I have realized a way to collect water for plants and animals that would other wise be wasted. I am collecting the water from the hot tap until it warms, at my home it take nearly a gallon of water to bring the hot water to the faucet. In the bathroom it is probably even more but its harder to catch the water.
Great idea!👍 This is a good example of how people on their own can find ways to conserve! The bathroom sink would be tough, maybe a waterbed adapter to screw on your faucet? Then you can attach a few feet of garden hose. Over here we use the old dog bowl water for our cacti and succulents, and it's plenty to keep them going year round. Small things add up, and if we all do small things we can produce BIG effects! Thank you for watching! 😎
Our washer is near the end of our water run. Many times, I start to fill the washer instead of letting the water just run down the drain. I run a load of clothes every other day, so having water sit in the tub isn't an issue. I use this to get hot water to the shower and dishwasher. The washer is about half full when I put the clothes in and then let it fill the rest of the way with cold.
Interesting Video! Many thanks for sharing those tables with the numbers. Water seems to be ridiculously cheap in the desert! Allow me to share a data point from outside the U.S.: living in a European country, which my American friends often jokingly call semi-socialistic, in an area that is wet enough that agriculture does not need irrigation for growing corn and hay, only a bit for some vegetables. So water infrastructure is mainly for residential and industrial use. Drinking water has to be pumped some 80 miles from a lake. Cost for residential users: 3,2 Euro per 1000 liter or approximately 13.2 USD per 1000 gallons.
What's wrong with cheap drinking water? Don't get why that would even be an issue for you?
@@Bouncer-id1rh There is nothing wrong with cheap water. But cheap resources often lead to thoughtless and wasteful behavior. When there is a shortage you either need complex government (re-)negotiations that most likely will never find a fair solution that makes everybody happy, or you can leave it up to the market to balance between supply and demand by means of the price. It is no surprise to me that the first approach did not come to a reasonable conclusion even after 20 years of drought. The more surprising it is to me that the second one seemingly did not happen either.
@@joehacker6412 First, it's a generalization to say "cheap prices" will lead to thoughtless behavior. When it comes to water, the vast, vast majority of people understand there is an issue and are responsible. As far as "Govt negotiations", look, the vast majority of the water rights are owned by first rights holders(individuals). We say "the states", but it's really not "the states" when it comes to the Colorado's water. The states can do very little when it comes to the water in the Colorado. How do I know? Well, the courts have already ruled on this. Countless suits have been brought, and in EVERY case, the courts have ruled that the only way to renegotiate the compact is for the "rights holders" to voluntarily negotiate a reduction in usage. The BOR as administrator has spearheaded those negotiations with the rights holders. But in the end, there is nothing to compel the 1st rights holders to reduce usage. Now, the recently negotiated "500 plan" which was negotiated, will pay the 1st rights holders-agricultural interests, 261.00af to reduce usage for 2 years by 500,000af equally in both the upper & lower basins is a start. But that negotiation were voluntary, yet those 1st rights holders still keep their water rights(pretty clever by them). Also, just of note-the drought contingency plan negotiated years ago was not a edict by the Govt. That was also a negotiated agreement by the 1st rights holders, who agreed to the reductions because they understand in was in their interests to reduce usage to keep the reservoir(s) from getting to deadpool. The BOR is simply administering that agreement. People think the hand of Govt made that decision. Also, when you use the term "drought", I'm assuming you're referring to "meteorological" drought. Just so you know, the drought designations the last 20 plus years by NOAA have ACTUALLY been Agricultural & Hydrological drought, not Meteorological like virtually everyone thinks. NOAA didn't make(add) the Meteorological designation until 2019. The Colorado actually flowed above it's 300 year average from 2000-2019(refer to NOAA). EVERYONE GETS THIS WRONG. The current 4 plus year Meteorological drought didn't cause the water issues, it's only exacerbating them. Agricultural drought in simple terms means..."not enough water resource to meet agricultural demand". Hydrological drought(while more complex)... includes the use of reserves to meet that demand, hence why the reservoir(s) have declined this century as the 16maf allocations came to fruition. The 2000-2018 "wet" period mitigated the decline to some respect, but with the current meteorological drought, it's obviously sped up that decline the last 4 years. The water issues are about the fact that the Colorado Compact allocated over 16maf by mistake. The 300 year study showed the actual average statistical average to be roughly 14maf. That 16maf came to fruition early this century. The system has had a yearly 2maf deficit the last 20 plus years. The data for the 16maf came from readings taken from 1906-1921, an obvious "wet" period, and too short of a window by today's standards to compile data. Over 80% of that 16maf is allocated to agricultural interests. It doesn't matter what we talk about, the reservoir(s) won't stabilize until another 1maf plus reduction is negotiated, and largely is going to come at the expense of agricultural production.
joehacker6412, I couldn't agree more. I live on the east coast of USA (Connecticut) which has similar water needs as yours and we pay about $5.88 per 1000gal which makes most of the tiers in that chart listed cheaper for water than us. I just always assumed water prices out west were really high, but evidently not and perhaps explains a lot. Just for reference, the average water consumption in our area is about 5,000 gallons per month and this is primarily for bathing, washing and drinking water(for those of us who still drink from our tap). I wonder what the average user is using out west per day/month. It seems that this tier system may leave most users in the lowest tiers anyways leading to not much incentive to do anything to conserve. Really surprising.....or i guess i shouldn't be.
@@Bouncer-id1rh I understand that the primary cause is agriculture. I assume that most of the water used by residential customers will be flushed down the toilet and eventually flow back to the river. Yet, satellite images of Las Vegas show lots of swimming pools in the backyards - can evaporation be neglected? Do the existing treaties allow to sell water across state boundaries, while retaining the long-term rights to future water deliveries? I've read that under the Inflation Reduction Act, the government calls for proposals how to save water, awarding $400 per saved acre-foot. This is equivalent to $1.23 per 1000 gallons, somewhat less than tier 1 in the table. If the utilities company did increase the price to, say, $12.30 per 1000 gallons, could they offer $4000 per af to a farmer in California for switching to a less thirsty crop or for fallowing a field and transfer that one af of water to Las Vegas utilities, while retaining his water rights?
Living in Socal, I can say your information is incomplete. Restrictions at wholesale level may have been eased; but, they remain at the retail (household/ local district level) . California water distribution is much more complex than Nevada. Water comes from central and northern California, the Clororado , and in some areas significant underground aquafiers. There is a lot to understand. One big problem is the 1920 water treaty between the states gave each state a water allotment based on water flow for a very wet year. If every state takes their allotment, the only direction for lake meads longterm level is down. Los Vegas did not exist when Hoover Dam was built and critical agreements were established.
I had no idea Mexico benefits from U.S. water ☹️. BTW, Riverside County, California there were no restrictions in summer 2022. 😁
I didn't either! Learning a lot here too 👍We just got into the details of this topic last summer when the lake was dropping fast. To be honest... Mexico rarely gets much benefit these days. The river doesn't flows through the delta like it used to. I hear it's dried up down there before it reaches the gulf now. On top of that, Mexico had negotiated a portion of the river water with the US, but like most deals the US has just bent or broken it when needed. There really is no guarantee to the water now for anyone but farmers in the Imperial Valley. They have senoir rights over anyone else along the river from what I can tell so far. Even above residential users like the cities. I am not sure if Riverside County uses Colorado River water, State Water Project water, both or neither. I will have to look into it further, so thank you for letting us know! I would have to say though, the bottom line is water conservation ANYWHERE in the southwest is the right answer. If other cities need guidance, now they can just start by looking at what Las Vegas is doing. Thank you for watching!
Why wouldn’t they? The river water naturally ran through some parts of Mexico before ending up in the sea of Cortez. Not to mention Mexico owned almost the entire west side of the United States and much part of the Colorado river.
Look at a map and not phox news once in a while...
@@mojo.adventures I would like to know how much water is lost due to evaporation in the heat of the summer to both Mead and Powell and the Colorado. Thank you
@@mojo.adventures Actually, Mexico as part of the international treaty(Colorado Compact-1922) does receive it's annual 1.5af, though as junior rights holders like NV & AZ, have seen a cut under the contingency plan. Also, the Colorado River rarely made it to the estuary, and even rarer, made it to the Gulf, even before the dam was constructed. That only happened in heavy run-off years(every 10-20 years), which is why the Hoover Dam was built to begin with-to control flooding. There is a total misconception about this. In addition, have you ever noticed how Lake Mohave's elevation NEVER changes? Nobody ever brings up the Lake Mohave reservoir. That's because Mohave's volume is roughly Mexico's allocation, and Mohave is kept at that elevation to guarantee the BOR can make it's legally obligated delivery to Mexico under the treaty. FYI: International water laws are based on where a river flows, NOT where it fell. Just thought I'd through that in.
Ok I live out here in Vegas, and I got a very high water bill . It was like 470 bucks . So I called , and they said we had a water leak, and used over 40,000 . We never had a leak here at me house. Never have , never did . But yet they said I did , and they knew what day it started. And the day it stop . But yet I never had not one leak . And I was still forced to pay the bill....
Could be someone read your water meter wrong.
Hey there Charles thanks for dropping a comment! It seems like all rates have gone up on water, gas, and power. Winter used to be the money saving season because you could give the A/C a break finally, but now with the gas rates, trying to keep your family warm in the winter is JUST AS MUCH $$$. There is no relief for people anymore. I think the new rates could be part of your problem but it sounds like you have something else going on for sure! That's weird it seemed to "fix" itself. I know they read them wirelessly too if you have one of the black transmitters on your cover. Who knows if it transmits the wrong data or something for one reading. If you haven't already, make sure to pop up your meter cover at the curb and see if it's leaking in the shutoff box there too. I've seen some bad leaks fill the box with water. If it's downstream from the meter the city considers it the owners problem to fix also, so I'm not surprised they force you to pay the bill... I hope Las Vegas gets some relief from the power and gas rates before it becomes unnaffordable to have basic services!
If I read it right, they only pay 1.46 per 1000 gallons! Here in central Canada where so far we have lots of water, we pay 11.85 per 1000 gallons! Water is way to cheap where there is little water
I've been hearing this from a couple viewers now both here around the US and in Canada also. Very interesting! I do like the low cost of living in Nevada but that's all changing very fast over the last few years. Las Vegas is just becoming East LA lately. It seems higher prices only hurt the average person and household, the people on that top 100 list will just pay double next year without thinking twice. Thank you for watching! 👍
Water use and distribution comes from water released for hydropower, namely from Parker Dam, not the lake itself. So, water use by the states has nothing to do with Lake Mead's water level.
This is all to familiar to me, Tucson Az has the exact same restrictions we started down this road water was conserved to much and then the water rates soared to unbelievable amounts because they were not making enough money to support the infrastructure. In other wards your going to get screwed why commercial properties waste water!
Wow that is an interesting point I didn't consider, thank you for sharing that!
Maybe think about OCEAN WATER for California? Newsom veto a water desalination plant off our California Coast!!
Holy crap 167 Gallons a day is low consumption!!?? you would go to jail in Australia if you used that much! we have a 10,000 gallon rainwater tank that lasts about 6 months during the dry with little inflow.
It's a problem that all the major rivers flow east-west and not north-south, a tiny fraction of the Columbia river would forever solve the water issues in the southwest but getting water from the Columbia south would be the worlds largest water project in history so that is a big deal and how do you sell that cost to the entire country for only a few million people? Not easy.
I'm not really familiar with all the distances involved and I'm sure the cost might be prohibitive; however, it occurs to me that there might be a plan put in place to recover downstream water "after use" at the water treatment plants and build a water system to take it back to its original source upstream to release it back into the system. I have previously proposed to friends that rivers, such as the Mississippi, should be "mined" for its excess water with water pipelines being taken to surrounding districts with resevoirs. In this way, some flooding and, perhaps, droughts could be ameliorated to some extent. It was pointed out to me forcefully that this would be cost prohibitive; however, my reply is, are we going to wait until it is either too late or when we have no choice. Various areas could share the cost and work at the problem step-by-step to try and get ahead of the problem or at least keep up with it. I know I don't have to point out that I'm not an engineer; however, we need seeds of ideas out there as they may spark debate or better ideas from those that ARE engineers. We need everyone on the case.
Good suggestions there! This is why I often point out other cities should be looking at Las Vegas if they need models for conservation. Vegas returns most of the residential and city runoff to the Las Vegas Wash, which then goes back into Lake Mead. So the city water is on a constant reclamation loop. Your idea for the Mississippi could work the same way, especially if the excess water is able to be kept and returned to the same region. You may have already seen around this discussion people thought a pipeline from the Mississippi out west to carry the excess damaging flood water could help solve the drought on the Colorado. I always thought this was a bad idea because the water needs to stay within it's own watershed and regions as much as possible. This is why Lake Mead is drying up, because the Imperial Valley and LA County take from the Colorado River when they are nowhere near it. If the Colorado River use would just remain near it's own natural path, we wouldn't be in this predicament (or at least be in a much better place). As you said at the end "we need everyone on the case". This is precisely what is NOT happening. As you may have seen from my river compact updates, we can't even get 7 states to agree on a water use solution together. We still unfortunately haven't reached the point of "everyone on the case". Real meaningful solutions may be a long time out...
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It is in the deal agreed-upon for over 100 years Arizona house to take up the slack it was agreed-upon and had to do with agricultural that deal I do believe expires next year there are many other channels that have been covering this topic for the last two years plus that’s the way I understand it from many different sources
75% of all California water demand is for agriculture. Corporate farms use the lion's share of the water to grow non-essential crops like almonds, raisins, and pecans. 2 million acres of irrigated California crops are destined for export to other countries, in spite of water shortages and rationing. Many corporate farms are owned by foreign entities (especially Saudi Arabia, Dubai, and other Gulf countries) who use our water to grow their food.
I go to the lake once a week and i mark the water and even with all the rain the lake is going down 4 to 6 in s day
Could have something to do with the tide when you measure?
Perhaps Arizona got reduced supply because the Verde and Salt river watershed reservoirs were predicted to be at storage capacity this year. If that is the case, it happened. This year the Gila river to Colorado confluence has been active since March and still going, pretty rare. I highly doubt that happened and is more likely just California having greater influence in the BOR. Good news for central Arizona supplied by SRP, but bad news for those on the I-10 and I-8 corridors that rely on Colorado river/CAP water for farming. We, in Arizona, are a little miffed that Southern California is not sharing in the pain, on a relative scale, that Colorado river users here have to endure. In other words Imperial valley farming is getting priority over Arizona farms that use Colorado river resources. Thank goodness Teddy Roosevelt and the SRVWUA had the foresight to recognize the potential of the Salt river, which led to more damns and the SRP. And others after him to create reservoirs on the Verde river. Southern California hasn't figured out a way to steal our water from rivers who's headwaters originate here, yet.
Thank goodness the Saudi’s water rights just got revoked on their alfalfa farm!😱😂
It may go up a bit after the snow on the mountain melt but how long will the water last and will it go down even more later in the future?
Time will tell.
I got fined 100.00 dollars for not using water in santa ana and the next fine is 500 dollars.the strip in between the curb and sidewalk wasn't green enough.IIappealed it and they said I would still have pay even though I fixed the problem.
Isnt there trans boundary channels that would allow some water to be transferred from the west side of the mountains to the lake mead side ?