Machiavelli’s Advice For Nice Guys
Nice guys too often finish last; they need to read the advice of one of the wisest and most realistic thinkers in the history of philosophy: Niccolo Machiavelli. For books from The School of Life, visit our online shop: goo.gl/4wNfTn
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"If you're harmless, you're not virtuous you're just harmless. If you on the other hand have the capacity to be a monster, but you choose not to be - then you're virtuous." - Kermit the frog
Thanks JP
Lobster King has spoken
@@jorgefigueroa2231 miss him
If ones values were so great, they’d never need harm or kill others for them to begin with... Note *Kermit the frog is an abstract. Who is the actual person who sourced that quote?
@@72marshflower15 Jordan Petersen
Being nice or having principles does not make you weak. Not knowing what to do when people take advantage of your principles does.
Principles*
Ricky Austin thanks
True strength is looking the person in the eye who's wronged you and wishing them all the best. It's having the capacity to harm, but *intentionally avoiding* inflicting harm.
@B Roli I'm a woman. Try not to be a sheeple your entire life.
People are not stupid and will notice sooner or later that you are lying at them and manipulating them. So at the long term you always lose.
“If you cannot be both, it is better to be feared than loved but avoid being despised.” - Machiavelli
A much loved monarch enjoys the obedience of his subjects, but their views can change on a whim and without fear of reprisal they could easily turn on him. A much feared monarch will not readily be challenged, especially if he is not despised.
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me. " - Michael Scott
It was adress to the prince(s), not ordinary people. To translate it as a general view of Machiavelli is to twist his philosophy.
That was sonny from A Bronx Tale too
@@AntonioBolognio-bs5gcdidn't work out to well for sonny
Everyone quote the "it's better to be feared than loved" without quoting the complete sentence wich is: "It is better to be feared than to be loved, if one cannot be both, but avoid being hated at all costs".
Being respected is better than being liked.
Just like Nietzsche, Machiavel is terribly misunderstood by normies
@@patienceobongo And a bully will never be respected by a good man but a bunch of cowards that will kiss his ass. A good man that doesn't kiss the ass of a bully that wants to be respected is a real man from my view. Jesus calls those bullies hippocrites if they claim to hear from God but treat their own sons like shit.
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400Even worse, he is abused. Lots of people posing as good guys and promoting the most horrible agendas in the name of the greater good™.
@@patienceobongoYou get shoved into and have ‘jokes’ played upon you if your Liked. Everyone is on high alert, nervous and know not to be a ‘Hero’ with you if you are Respected.
"Don't be a simp" - Niccolo Machiavelli
Pokimane: delet this
@@horsenuggets1018 no
@@IRussian007 what
@@horsenuggets1018 What you mean "what"? I said "no" to whoever said "delete" the comment.
@@IRussian007 you don't know who Pokimane is? I envy you
“Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I am kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me.” -Al Capone
Nice quote. That mean they who had hurt him will die soon
@@stonecold007 Big Al was a wise man!
nice one, thanks
Yes,- JBPeterson: Integrate your shadow and true self and Don't be harmless.
600hunndy
There's nothing wrong with being a nice person. Not being able to stand up for yourself and not setting boundaries when someone treats you badly is wrong.
F the world and those middle fingers we see on the side of the road painted is a Machiavellian perception rising in people's mind for the distaste of anything. 😅
I agree! I stood up for my series when ideologues tried to subvert what I was trying to say in my series, The Pensuke Files!
i think what machiavelli meant is mostly people pleaser type of nice, not decent human type of nice
"we are all ultimately the sum of what we achieve not what we intend "............. this hits me like a blow
It’s only a nice way to justify that at some point for some material advantage, you are right to betray what you believe in. It. Just a way of sweetening the reality that was corrupted at some point. This whole video presents Machiavelli as if he held some absolute truth. He knew this, he knew that, is repeatedly stated.
That statement is truly shallow and misplaced. I am NOT the sum of what I have achieved. That implies that material gain is the only success in life, you are here for a short time, then you die. You can’t take anything with you, nothing, not even your name or memories. Sounds to me that Machiavelli was just a self serving asshole.
@@Neil1957-Spoken like someone who will amount to nothing
"i can't think of any quotes, sorry" -me
deep
"i will think one for you" -me
Man, thats deep
LOL! Made me smile.
"Hey, -great- lesser minds think a like, I can't think of any quotes either." - Me
Interviewer: You practice violence but preach peace. How do you reconcile the two ? Bruce Lee: I’d rather be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war.
Was that before or after Lee was body slammed by Gene LaBell?
@@harrisonwintergreen1147 Pack up your confrontational divisiveness and take a hike. When shtf no one will want to be around you.
Lovely quote :) Thanks for sharing
@wmfivethree i think you dropped something on the groung ma nigga
I'm a bit stonned , did bruce lee like chinning people in gardens ?
“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.” ― Friedrich W. Nietzsche
Yep, "The End justifies the Means" is a slippery slope indeed.
then die for your principles?
Amen. Thank you.
@@klowen7778 True its just a tempting path to take. I'm not sure if this applies to everyone but I assure you good people get joy/pleasure/happiness from being good.However good people also have a need to hold themselves to high standards. So if a good person is kind,virtuous ,merciful etc but no one is helped from them in the thoughts of good people its normal to question how is such a person any different from a selfish one in the eyes of a good person. After all in the end both people ignore the suffering of others for their own happiness. Therefore since good people have self sacrifice tendencies they'd rather sacrifice their own morality and bear the guilt to help others.Then since they think that the guilt is reducing the efficiency at which they help others they choose to justify their actions and try not to feel guilt to increase the efficiency of helping others. People might think that people that choose to commit atrocities in the name of the greater good think of themselves higher than others when in truth it comes from one putting oneselves below others.
@@farhanishraqifti1489 Oh yeah, or as the great Richard Feynman used to say, "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool."
" Act nice, make your enemies think you are weak and then strike like a lightning bolt" - Sun Tzu, The Art of War
"Just smile and wave boys, smile and wave" -Skipper
This Barry Soetoro documentary is revealing
You reminded me of the greatness that is skipper
Wow just wow
Analysis Kowalski
@@m.draven477 were fucked
“While it is pleasant to meet girl in park, it may be more pleasurable to park meat in girl.” -Confucius
That can’t be a real quote
AMEN
Aka Redd Foxx
Another great Confucius quote
@@popcat2875 see my reply
"Its better to be feared than loved but avoid being hated at all cost." this is the best advice I heard in my life..
you can be feared loved and hated all at the same time
nah
The main issue being, kindness is a luxury only the strong can afford. If you are not strong, you are also not being kind, because you have no other option.
Stop making excuses to justify your bad behaviour, when the real problem is that you lack self-confidence in my opinion.
But no one is born strong. You become strong by being ruthless and really wanting it.At least thats the most effective way.
we should embrace nice guys and rejected bad boys as we don't play their toxic society
It’s takes internally strength to turn all negatives into positives
There has been an experiment with IA playing games (source: Bernard Werber, Encyclopédie du savoir relatif et absolu). It has been shown that the most effective strategy is cooperation (I play nice), reciprocity (if you are bad to me, I will fight back) and forgiveness (if you start playing nice, I will cautiously do it too).
"Being nice to people who are bad to you doesn't change them into becoming nicer, you are rewarding them for their behaviour." - someone
That’s my quote!
"YES"
I do it for guiltrip. I genuinely find it funny when i play nice to people who's bad to me, i give them a sense of guilt and if they don't they're people who'll judge that person for me. I find it entertaining to see others judge them for they're behavior. And well I'm just the victim. It's not rewarding them, it's a subtle way of revenge
@@jim4736 me too
@@imyoubutbetter2807 luckily you'll won't end up doing this with a psychopath, as they literally are unable to be guilt-tripped.
"appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak" Sun Tzu
I always laugh when people think being nice is weak! It’s the most effective method of all time. Don’t draw too much attention to yourself until it’s time to strike
@@thegeneral1297 I mean, deception is what certain armies won their wars
@@exudeku "the way of war is deception" -Also Sun Tzu
@@horsenuggets1018 " when in doubt, whip it out; always flank em, then spank em' " -Sun tzu
@@exudeku "pineapple belongs on pizza" -Sun Tzu
_"The best revenge is not to be like your enemy."_ - *Marcus Aurelius*
It is too philosophical there is need to get clarity on what it means by " not to be like your enemy "
Is it though?
@@KolchaksGhost No. The best revenge is living well
And don't make your enemy successful enough to be envied by others (so others learn your enemy's methods)
And if you hate your enemie because the way your enemie doing things, letting your enemie too successful may create more potential enemies because of others start to think learn from your enemie is a good way to be successful.
I remember this scene from the Castlevania netflix series, where Lenore, a vampire diplomat visits Hector, a human captive in his cell and tries to establish a connection with him by being kind and generous. At some point he manages to get a hold of her throat and threatens her, to which she invades his cell and beats the shit out of him. And then she says, "I am a diplomat Hector, i make peace. I make peace, and because of that people think i am soft, people think i am weak. You won't make that mistake again, will you?" She is genuinely interested in helping him, she is light hearted and kind but won't hesitate to use violence or anything else when necessary. Always good to see these sorts of depictions in media considering that's what most people expose themselves to, hopefully we can all pick up on those underlying principles that permeate characters like this.
You noticed. What an enriching gift, the ability of observation to grab valuable life lessons from free sources.
@@AppleSlicesUnite Exactly, i can't imagine a better way of putting it.
"If people throw stones at you, throw bread instead - with a grenade inside, of course." - Fidel Gandhi
Don’t forget to pull the Pin.
This is like something out of Tropico
But they're just kids
"Make use of bread in war" -Sun Tzu The Art of War.
@@dardoura "Oor people demand to wear waffles."
Never put others as a priority when you are only an option to them
I love Dave Chappelle's mom's advice to him, "Son, sometimes you have to be LION just to be the LAMB that you really are".
That's not the point in being a lion. You be a lion....to be a lion
@MishTheMash you seemed to have missed the point. It means that even if you want to have a humble and mild manner, you need to occasionally muster the courage to venture outside of your comfort zone to deal with uncomfortable situations in order to grow and show that your gentle nature is not a weakness. We ascribe a lot of high qualities to lions and I don't think it's a healthy ideal to strive for every day. No matter how amazing the view is, it's lonely at the top. No shame in being a lamb if you know when to be a lion.
@@joshi897 ...If being a lamb is so good, then why strive to be a lion at all? Surely living by example is the litmos test to what is of real value? My point was that: lambs are lambs, they spent so long 'being lambs' that even if they tried they could never 'become a lion'. That's kinda the point of the video; it's better to be feared than loved, but if you can be both; and that we often use virtue as an excuse for weakness. I suppose I would rephrase Chappelle's words to be: You don't always have to be the Lion that you are, sometimes you can lie down with the lambs.
"What shall a man profit if he gains the whole world and loses his own soul?" -Mark 8:36 Life on earth is just temporary, and the average lifespan is about 70 years , while life after here on earth is for eternity and you choose whether eternity in heaven or eternity in hell. Being kind, good, compassionate, hated, and persecuted christian is worth all it because your reward in heaven is eternal life. Machiavellian's ideas to achieve success and riches are only temporary(approximately 70 yrs. if you are lucky) because you can not carry your success or riches after you die.
"Do not expect respect, and you'll know no pain" Marcus Aurelius.
@José Flores Marcus Aurelius hammers on about that you should only focus on what you control which are your thoughts and actions. It means that you should only care about that you are behaving in a way that earns you your own respect. "If you learn that someone is speaking ill of you, don't try to defend yourself against the rumours; respond instead with, 'Yes, and he doesn't know the half of it, because he could have said more'." "When another blames you or hates you, or people voice similar criticisms, go to their souls, penetrate inside and see what sort of people they are. You will realize that there is no need to be racked with anxiety that they should hold any particular opinion about you." "Say to yourself in the early morning: I shall meet today ungrateful, violent, treacherous, envious, uncharitable men. All of these things have come upon them through ignorance of real good and ill... I can neither be harmed by any of them, for no man will involve me in wrong, nor can I be angry with my kinsman or hate him; for we have come into the world to work together..." So basically, you shouldn't care about whether someone respects you or not, that's their thing to decide. You have only care about how you behave and what you think. Which he says with these quotes "The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts." "When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." "You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength." "Dwell on the beauty of life. Watch the stars, and see yourself running with them." "If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it." "Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one."
@@BboyKeny I enjoyed this post. Well done.
"Bars" Marcus Methodmanus
@@BboyKeny If everyone practice what you said most of the violence, Harrassment, abuse, anger for nothing, back stabbing, retaliation, divorce, etc would stop. This is my philosophy also for decades. I am not religious, but I follow God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Yep, I don't expect to be treated nicely or respectfully by anyone, because you never will know what's in the mind of humans. I treat a human according to how I want to be treated and all humans know good treatment from bad, good people from bad, good workers from bad, it up to them how long I stick around.
Tell it to a commander leading his troops into battle - see what he says - or does.
Do not set yourself on fire to keep other warm
I set myself on fire to keep me warm
👏
@@juanreza6308 interesting
That's new
Juan Reza witty
You nailed it bro. This video has been like grasping at straws for me,otherwise being a nice guy ,i was stuck and could end up suffocating being victim of these bastards.
I'm nice, but not stupid. You will struggle to take advantage of me! I'm proud to be calm, honest and with integrity. Bless ur hearts Friends
Point of the story, don't let your kindness be taken for weakness and don't let anyone step on you.
BRO CODE...... UHHHH YEAHHHH
Sounds like the principles for the satanists of Anton lavey
You guys should read 'The Prince' by Machiavelli its a really good short read.
If you want to be kind, be strong first. Without power, your kindness don't mean squat. Without power, you can do nothing.
Then how do you avoid your kindness to be corrupted by this power?
"I'm stuck" -stepsister
Lmao
😈
We all know what happens next
@@Luca_86 well yes but no.
pornhub recommendations*
The world is lucky that I am quite content with my life 😊
Ive kept coming back to this video every once in a while since May 2018.
'You're just not the person I hoped you'd be." - my wife.
"Everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face." -Mike Tyson
@Huginn Bodgaedir that historically, violence has been a useful tool?
Huginn Bodgaedir The meaning of the quote is that everyone has a course of action planned out until violence breaks out and then fight or flight kicks in. You don’t learn what you’re made of until you face adversity. Like getting punched in the face.
It means that you may have a plan but when you face reality, that plan might not be useful.
Yup, No plan survives contact with the enemy
@James Smith Make sure ya use in on the Enemy !
I have read the book in Greek. The translation was of high quality with comments and footnotes, so the reader can gain a deeper understanding of the text. Translators don't get the credit they deserve. It's an activity that demands knowledge, research and great creativity.
I have always thought that The Prince is one of the most misunderstood books of all time. It’s a fascinating little book with dozens of practical advices
I think another challenge arises in not becoming everything you despise about your enemy.
my friend if you go to war with that mindset, you will never win. During world war two the Allies committed many untold atrocities to free Europe from the Nazi's. Really in the end its the outcome everybody focused on, nobody discussed the utter annihilation of the city of Dresden in Germany.
Tuko just because nobody discussed them or nobody remembers them, that doesn't mean that it didn't happen, or that it wasn't horrible in it's own right.
agreed
The main purpous was to be effective. Christianity wasn't known throughout the world by only dreaming, but taking initiative into what had to be done for the greater good.
***** They did what had to be done, however people's faith has gotten weaker and we have become spoiled even with our blessings we continue to polute our planet.
"All we had to do was to follow the damn train, CJ" -Confucius
Kkkkkk
@@skitxez8912 Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@@FoxyBoxery ahahah
ROFL
Horribly accurate
I've always been interested in politics and this video explained the concept of power in such an interesting way. Now I understand why some people act the way they do
“He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
In short - reserve honor for the honorable, kindness for the kind, and respect for the respectful
...and fucks for the...well...fucks...
David Arnott well said
This is not a summary of Machiavelly but a simple demonstration that you have failed to understand anything. The point is that Machiavelly was not advising anyone to be evil when not needed but he was advising to do bad thing when neccesary so even to harm innocent people if you need to do so to win a war. So reserve honor not for the honorable but for when you can afford to do so.
Light Layagajoie - ill reserve being a fanny for fannies like you :)
David Arnott your explanation may be in good will and somewhat in line with ideas in the video, but it is definitely not an accurate summary of the ideology. The point is fulfill your duty as a force of goodness, by whatever means is clearly necessary - including forgoing what one's reservation for goodness is entirely, but while still maintaining one's willful sense of good in any situation. Easier said than done for many people. Being good is easy; one needs true cunning to do the right "morally-wrong" things in the name of good without mucking it up. The extra effort is absolutely worth it though
"You're a disappointment" -dad
"Because you made me" -son
@@giampaolomannucci8281 Oop~ Lmao
At last! A true quote 🤣
Can't agree more
You aren't a disappointment.
"Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." -The Light, The Truth
Amen.
This is the Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth. I'll also go further to add, Truth in its truest form. I've learned a very valuable lesson from this teaching of divine experience, commonsense and wisdom. May God bless me with divine grace, wisdom, will and courage to practicalize and implement it for my own good, family,loved ones and humanity in general. So shall it be till the end of time. Amen and Amen. Shalom !!!
BEST ADVICE EVER: "Be as NICE as one wishes but NOT overly devoted to acting nicely". takes few readings to REALLY grasp that wisdom.
1 Bad Jesus the problem arises when people identify as nice.
lol I've had a saying for a few years, "it's not nice to be not nice"
1 Bad Jesus I think I only need to read it once ty
1 Bad Jesus tank you for that man will keep that in mind
i didn't really gain anything from reading it again, can you share your experience please?
“Don’t always believe what you see online” -Abraham Lincoln
@@adorablerepresentativem.co6036 You're kidding, right?
What is it with all these fake quotes? What Lincoln actually said was: 'Not every quote you find on the internet is true'. Do you your homework, Kermos!
@@adorablerepresentativem.co6036 that depends on which Abraham Lincoln you're talking about. There has been more than one in all of history.
@@njits789 of course he/she is 😂
@@adorablerepresentativem.co6036 The problem with internet is that you can't see if someone is being sarcastic lol 😂😂😂 for doing so you need to see facial expressions. Or the sarcasm is just obvious. But what is obvious for someone is not obvious for someone else
And when everyone does this- we all destroy each other.
"A gentleman will not offend me and no man not a gentleman can offend me." - Frederick Douglass
What I learned: "You can only be truly nice if you know how to be evil."
Just like how you can only truly be kind if you've been through pain
Thus proved by the protagonist of "YOU"
We'll file that one under, "know your enemy".
i mean yeah i understand the quote but i could technically pick up a knife and murder my family but i choose not to do that. does that make me nice?
makes sense.. you are truly nice if you know on how to be truly evil because you are aware and would choose on being nice
"You pick the wrong house, fool!" -Sokrates
Big smoke. Lol
"Hey Sokrates it's me Plato! Chill! Chill!"
@@mastermitser5693 "Plato? AAWWW MAH DAAAWWG!" -Sokrates
All you had to was follow the damn τρένο, Plato. -Sokrates
“Do not disturb my Circles.”~ Archimedes
Basically, it boils down to "Don't be naive"
"I don't know any quotes but I want to fit in" - me
“When a man learns to feel love, he must also bear the risk of feeling hatred." -Madara Uchiha
Booo shut up you otaku weeb
Maiquel Castro-Diaz it's just a form of animation calm down buddy
Naruto doesnt exist
@@palmaarma ok boomer
@matthe ai nah, he took the eyes from his brother who was dying due to injuries from tobirama
"How can I help you" - Google Assistant
Tell me how to access Siri
@@KageNoTenshi “fuck you” - Google Assistant
@@digdogg_ "You don't have the balls" -me
🤣😂
Great presentation. You learn me something! Many Thanks!🎈
Having been a nice person for most of my life i learnt it the hard way that there will be wicked people who will have their justification for their evil ways. Now, I spot the wicked people early on, i counteract their evil ways and ensure that I'm not at the receiving end. Not the best of ways to live but certainly better than being fooled all the time
Your voice is like warm gravy on fresh smooth mashed potatoes
Feirce Bannana WTF😂😂
+Michael Koech your emojis make you look childish. Please stop.
what's wrong with looking childish
Christine Kangaslampi a lot, if you are a grown adult.
Or the sweet smell of oyster sauce with sushi
Being dangerous is the key, each being manifests an aura of impotence and dangerousness.. The first is pitied at best, the second is feared although not being inherently evil
Loved the explanation. I started reading The Prince today:)
"why are people quoting random quotes with no correlation to this video?" -some guy on the internet
"Who cares?" - some other guy on the internet
It was said like by brain in a vat
“ Ay caramba!!” -Bart Simpson-
Because they didn't comprehend the video, and they lack the intelligence to realize that their quotes have nothing to do with the message from Machiavelli. Same goes for all those who upvoted the irrelevant quotes.
they want to feel smart
I certainly agree that there is a lot to learn from evil people. Yet we should never overlook Nietzsche’s warning: “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” Thanks for the videos 🖖
That was Nietzsche
Wafflepudding It is never a good idea to have only “one” guide; as it is proven by countless destructions conducted by the people who think they have the “one final answer for all”!🖖
Yes! This needs to be seriously upbumped. Machiavelli is indeed self-liberating in a sense, but this line of thinking, if solitary pursued, is most definitely a path to an unempathic self-righteousness. All things worth pursuit are only so when in balance with those that are likewise.
Great quote.
That is a good quote to counter Machiavelli.
I think that both Jesus and Machiavelli teach us something very interesting. Jesus thought us how to use goodness, Machiavelli thought us how to use wickedness. A balance is critical, especially for kings. As Jesus said "be as wise as a serpent, and as gentle as a dove".
This is why the devil will always exist and in a way is also part of god. Made in image and likeness.
@@rusalkinyou did not just say that the devil is god, God is a wrath a fire not just love
being wise is not evil
balance between good and evil is critically the worst thing I hate evil btw
You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means which they use to frighten you- Eric Hoffa.
This is very true from my own experience.
I only stopped being a victim when I learned five things very late in life: 1) People will instantly manipulate you without conscience if they think you're a "nice guy". And women will subconsciously test you to see if you're a "nice guy" (i.e., a rejected prospect who can't protect them) or a good man, who is capable of protecting them, by trying to bully or manipulate you. Even the "nice" girls will do that. How do you pass this test? By being willing to stand up to them, and saying "No", and being willing to walk away, without being an asshole about it and without looking back. Eventually, if you Ever had a chance with them, they will come back to you, as you have proven you are capable of standing up for yourself (and thus capable of standing up for them). Women may be completely unconscious they are even doing this. 2) Learning how to be instantly willing to give someone a bloody nose without guilt, if I need to. After I learned how to do this, I stopped needing to actually do it, as potential bullies sense you are willing and capable of doing it. 3) Everyone is a potential bully. Including you. It's just a human fact of survival. Always be aware of that fact, and be willing to check it in yourself and others, even if they're someone you love. 4) Stop being a "nice guy". You're being a nice guy because you expect to be rewarded for being a nice guy, which is hypocrisy, and women hate that. A "nice guy" is actually a hypocrite, because he expects a reward for being "nice". Women know what you're doing, and will never reward your niceness, but are willing to take advantage of you in every way and feel they are justified because you're being "nice" for false reasons (i.e., in order to get something from them). 5) Stop needing approval from anyone. The people who have the most given to them are people that need other people the least. People sense a person in need, and it automatically repels them, because they think you have nothing to give. If they sense you have no need of them, they automatically are attracted to you, because they think you must have a lot in your life not to need them. This is why you see so many women devoted to real bastards that have nothing to give, because they at least don't seem needy. You don't actually have to Be a bastard. You just have to be capable of being a bastard without guilt, when confronted with bastards. And you have to learn to recognize bastards, conmen, grifters, etc., so you can protect yourself without guilt. I think that is the point that Machiavelli was making.
Thanks very well said
One of the best comments on youtube
MaskedMarvyl *NAILS IT!*
@Chang Noi Understanding something is about being able to describe it in your own words 😝
@Chang Noi this cracked me up, lol.
This is a very dangerous road to tread on. It encourages people who merely think their goals are noble and virtuous to use violence, intimidation, deception and lies to achieve these goals. We have to keep in mind that despicable people are not only despicable because of their ends but also because of their means. Someone who murders for a supposedly good cause is only a hint better than someone who does the same for a bad cause. Who has the authority to decide what is so good or so bad that it legitimizes the use of e.g. violence for resp. against it anyway? Who dares to put himself up to be the ultimate moral arbiter to decide over other people's lives, not to mention their deaths, in the name of the "greater good" except for incredibly egomaniacal personalities?
if a man comes at you with a sword, you may have already lost better to come at him with a knife instead, in the dark while there are no witnesses
Exactly, this is the same problem as when people justify punching someone they disagree with by calling them a nazi
You hit the nail on the head, OP. No one has such authority. The content creators fail to challenge Machiavelli's assumption that rulership is needed in the first place
In the war against Hitler deception and murder were used. Are you saying the allies were wrong for that? They should have only used rubber bullets and sought to capture enemies and then jail them instead of killing them?
dothedeed If you're replying to me, I was referring to more recent events, e.g. UC Berkeley, when people resort to violence against their political opponents in a democratic state. I think we can all agree that violation of basic human rights does legitimize one to use more effective means, but if and only if that's the case and it's still arguable to what extent.
The most important and unfailing truth that Machiavelli completely missed is Karma. Ruthlessness and cleverness for short term gain is inevitably and eventually followed by reaping what you sow and there are numerous examples of this throughout history.
Tell me how karma worked out for Hitler, Stalin or Mao pls
@@philipdrozd951 -Hitler watched his children and Eva Braun die from cyanide capsules, then shot himself in the head as the allies closed in on Berlin -Stalin, notoriously abusive to his inner circle, died in a pool of his own urine after convulsing for up to 11 hours. His doormen were too scared to come in and check on him to save his life. Mao im honest not well educated on him but im sure there's something. Edit- i was wrong, they weren't hitlers children actually, they were the 5 goebbel children, one of them was 'like a daughter' to Hitler(Helga Goebbels)
@@philipdrozd951 Why don't you ask the Dalai Lama...
@@christopher5148Karma is the coping mechanism of losers. Ghandi didn't just sit around waiting for some mystical force to right perceived misdeeds. He actively protested the political violence happening in his country and used his starvation as a method of emotional manipulation to create a cult of personality around him. People will follow evil men if their lives are improved by it. Mao, and Stalin made the lives of their people worse. Most Germans loved Hitler until they began to lose the war. Being a force for change is not dependent on trite conceptions of morality.
A lot of people just want to become balanced. Adopt a philosophy of charity if naturally too selfish or enlightened self interest if too caring. The fact that there are other reasons to adopt these types of philosophies adds enough noise to hide your true intentions (even from yourself).
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The only correct quote in this comment section
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"One who has a 'why' to live can endure almost any 'how'.- Nietzsche
That was Viktor Frankle..
@@robertmc7863 the first person to quote it was Nietzsche. Viktor later used it on his book, Man's search for meaning.
@@syedraidarsalan4685 interesting.. I did not know that.
"Ahhh, blow it out your ass, Howard!" - Olson Johnson
That's a damned lie.
That book is named "Il Principe" which is better translated in Engish as The Ruler. The book is a compendium of advice for the ruler, no matter what kind of ruler. It is written in the style known as "mirrors for princes (specula principum)" but it is different from many such books, it is better, much better written, and, arguably, much "better" pieces of advice.
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"Never piss against the wind" - Jason Statham
Unless you got strong presure
whats up with these random quotes xD
CNN? Dont whizz on the electric fence
"Our words are backed by nukes" -Mahatma Ghandi
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Gandhi not ghandi
"War, We are not impress"- Queen Victoria
Makes perfect sense to me!
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Don't be kind, be fair. -My South African Tour Guide
What's the story behind this?
@@lylaaxiom8750 I see
That's not true.
To be happy you have to make people happy. It's a desire.
Dont be fair. Life isn't fair.
Martyrs are loved, but they are dead. -Machiavelli
And so will you ;)
Cowards are alive, but Irrelevant.
@@EmperorThePro there is a fine line between admirable bravery and utter stupidity
@D'lish Donut he lived a full life, the goal is to live a full life
Immanuel T And everyone is going to die. So now what?
His methods are written for extremely hard times of uncertainty. However the aspiration for a better world can't stop either.
It's a piece of cake , to rule over "believers" you spoon feed them rubbish on the TV/radio and tell them it will all be sorted out when they Die (or pass, they don't like using the D word ) by the invisible man and his talking snake.
An eye for an eye doesn't make both parties blind, it ensures they each get to keep an eye.
“Get to da choppaa” - Arnold Schwarzenegger
*da choppa
Yessir!
but if it bleeds we can kill it.
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This is very correct. I read the book. I wish I had it in Hard Copy for reference
I'm paraphrasing Jordan Peterson: Let's not confuse being harmless with being virtuous. If you're too weak/scared to do damage, you are not virtuous, you're just harmless. If you're capable of doing serious damage and you're a force to be reconned with, then you can be virtuous by not doing damage when not necessary. If you are harmless, that's the problem you should be solving. You need to grow teeth, otherwise you're just going to grow resentful as the world runs you over.
Thank you, love that quote
I also think being nice is not to be confused with being run over. Principles are great but you need to be able to have exceptions within reason. Only go as far as necessary to protect yourself and your community and exhaust all other options first, but don't let yourself be beaten.
Real talk. People often confuse weakness with kindness. And kindness as weakness.
This. This is the truth
Incredible quote by Peterson there. I wish someone had told me this when I was a teenager.
The comment section is gem.
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@plentyness Its not axe, its unadulterated ambergris.
@plentyness No clue how to read that. Try english.
Germs*
copycat spotted
He never learned that good man has no enemies. That’s the real benefit of being good and kind, it comes with the downsides ofc but the main benefit is that you have no enemies, it is a great advantage for calm and healthy life, it takes away a lot of unnecessary stress trough life.
@@josephr7529 Other people who also think that they're good people. Humans do not understand humans. I don't understand why that's possible except that the capacity for self-delusion is infinite.
If you have no enemies you have nothing of value
@@bruhbruh-us6gl everything holds some type of value. IF you have enemies they Are by default interested and fight with you for some sort of social value. A Man with no enemies Is Never interested in social value and never use it as coping mechanism to life's suffering. Good Man finds coping in individual values like virtues and gains peace trough understanding of his environment, not trough conquest of it.
@@karakondzula1388 Nonsense. Whether or not one has enemies has little to do with him personally and more to do with what he has and what he is. If you are rich, someone will want your wealth. If you are free, someone will want to take your freedom. If you are happy, someone will try to take your happiness. We do not know the names of most of our enemies, yet people think that one’s enemies are limited to the people in their immediate social circle. In reality you have never, and likely will never, personally interact with the people that bear the most ill-will towards you.
@@bruhbruh-us6gl while i do not dispute the fact that there will be people who will consider you an enemy for whatever you may have socially, despite that, your own considering of them as enemies Is completely your own choice, what i wrote follows From this this.
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In simple words. Be nice, but learn to say no and don't get used by others.
In other words dont be a white knight.
Also floss
Don't be nice, don't be nasty, just be, as appropriate. If you are not doing it as appropriate, but too nice or too nasty, then there is likely a root issue unrelated. Sometimes, what may feel in your heart as cruel today, perhaps regardless of reality, saves a thousand tears tomorrow.
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Thats the point
“I'll never leave you" Your ex GF
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I don't even have any gf
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The problem with Machiavelli's principle is the underlying assumption that being successful in a temporary world is meaningful. Arnold Schwarzenegger's muscles were finely tuned when he was young to only have them wither. Building a statue to our hero's, only to have the Sun eventually destroy it. The work done on Earth ends up being in vein. The choice then becomes, in a vein world, is it better for all living things to live peacefully, dignified, and kind, or unleash the Hitler.
This is exactly what I've determined at work. More than one job supervisor told me I need to be more of an a-hole. I've had a business partner that was only proud of me when I cheated a customer. An older co-worker said that if he had to change fundamentally who he is to keep a job, he'll find another one. I've embraced that and it has served me better than having short-term success and thinking only of myself.
Look, watch the video again, and again. Then, you will get the point that is being made. The world will at some point make the nice guy confront a Hitler-like person. Only then, will the overtly nice guy realize that in order to stop this force of evil from conquering the world (which is also "vein"), he needs to become either as or more malicious than the evil force in order to preserve peace in a "vein" world. Vanity is the banalest of reasons not to do something. That means we should still be living in the stone age because every progress made to date is all futile.
@@bernardwongibe5118 I don't have to watch the video again, I learned about Machiavelli's principle in High School. Essentially there are no morals in war, the Machiavelli principle doesn't apply, and it wouldn't matter even if you did apply it, since it boils down to utter survival, where the ends is death. Machiavelli was addressing political, business and personal lives, in how better to succeed rather than fail. He reasoned the end results justifies the means, he never mentioned war nor did he even imply to use it during war.
You guys need to stop spelling the word vain wrong.
@@Dragonaut111 Why? Does it hurt you?
I always thought of Machiavelli being a sociopath (perhaps because I did not read his books first hand) perhaps he was a direct victim of sociopaths as some of us are!
read the books then judge maybe?
@@rebinu you are right!
He wasn't actually as cunning as his reputation claims. He was simply an effective diplomat who in his writing did shy away from expedient but questionable methods which infact were used multiple times in history. He also was tortured due to the medici family and was a victim of power abuse so he was well aware of the extent people go to for the sake of securing power.
Did not shy away*
“Thomas Edison wears women’s undergarments.” - Nikola Tesla
He was just proving how not to dress like a man
Giampaolo Mannucci Shocking!
@@skepticynic5150 you know, when failing to make the lightbulb he said something like "I haven't failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work" ;)
Wow, is THAT why Edison hated him so? Huh...who knew?
Thomas is a cheat, just hate him and I will always believe he wears women undergarments.
A big part of this is knowing the tricks of your enemies. That doesn't mean you need to use them and become like them, but more so being able to identify when they are using those tricks.
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"Be ye wise as serpents and as harmless as doves."
Hi Marc. A subtle put-down from a passive-aggressive person goes like this. "What kind of trouble have you been getting into lately?" Cheers, P.R.
I can't get past the thought that this is the ultimate slippery slope.
@@markpritchard4901 Hi Mark. I reckon. Cheers, P.R.
"You don't hire a saint to catch a sinner." - Sheriff Malloy
All I ever was gotten from being the nice guy was bruises and broken hearted 🥺✌️❤️
"friends are like potatoes, if you eat them, they will die" - Mike Tyson
“I’m a semi-good husband.” -Iron Mike
He's not wrong tho.
Actual quote: "Frienths are like potatoths. If you eat them, bathically they die"
He stole it from Hannibal Lecter
Just like Holifield's ear.....
"when you fall down from a horse, you get up and eat that horse" - Son Goku (TFS)
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I think it is important to add, that people used to die at their 40s in 15th century. They did not have time to be picky, when choosing their means to achieve something.
Nice guys don't finish last, they don't even finish the race. - recovering nice guy
They dont join the race
True... Can't finish if you get trampled by the stampede. - a fellow recovering nice guy
Nice guys don't finish last, they finish alone in the shower.
True , mostly , only whilst you're on the Earth. In the Eternity of your Heavenly Home , the rules are very different.
It's ONLY because "Nice Guys" are NICE .... and that's all. Be NICE with WISDOM. Read up on words of Wisdom. The Book of Proverbs, etc. Also know that Oil & Water don't mix. YOU have the POWER. So if a woman wants oil, give em oil. Just DON'T stay in that too long. That's Right, HIT IT & QUIT IT ! But YOU find someone with interest simular to yours. QUIT being intimidated of beautiful women.There is a such thing as a good pimp. Confidence & Conservation ! Your appearance, your talkgame, the way you carry yourself. If it don't get women, THEN CHANGE IT !