Teleconverter Pros and Cons
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Hi, this is Jay P. Morgan. Today on The Slanted Lens, we're here at a great swamp in Houston. We're photographing alligators and birds with a 150-600mm Tamron lens, plus a couple of teleconverters from Tamron. What do you get when you add a teleconverter to a 150-600mm lens? Let's check it out and see.
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Jay P does not get tired of making a video much better than you can expect... and consistently...
Thank you so much!
Last time I was this early there was no D in SLR.
Thanks JP for another great Video .. Watch for those Croc's , they move fast !
Something that might have been nice for the quality comparison would be to throw your lens out to 600mm with no teleconverter, then put the 2x on there and put the lens at 300mm, effective 600mm and show those images side by side. It would be the same focal length and framing without any digital enlargement on either. Would be really interesting to see if the difference is perceptible. I have a tamron 70-200 2.8 and have been considering getting a tele for it. (Bought it off of your recommendation and love it.)
Thanks a great idea. I may have to take it out and do that. And glad to hear you're enjoying that lens!
I love the Tamron 150-600mm G2 lens for wildlife, though my 'teleconverter' is using it on my Nikon D500. The lens is sharp enough to handle the high pixel density of a 20MP APS-C sensor, making it a natural fit for a D500 or a Canon 7D Mark II.
3:42 Nice drone shot. Love it :)
Thanks for another informative video. Which Vanguard tripod are you using in this video?
I was considering a 1.4x or 2x from my 150-600mm lens and I wanted a good example of what to expect. I knew looking at a Slanted Lens video was the best idea. :-D
Great! Glad we could help you make that decision. What did you end up choosing?
Hi, Thanks for the video. I have a question, what will happen to the depth of field of a lens when attached with a teleconverter? And I would like to add one more pro that I experienced from teleconverters. Teleconverters will help lense designed for apsc sensors to fill full frame sensors.
Hi!! May I ask what kind and model of your Monopod tripod are you using in this video? Thanks in advance for answer .
Tried to send you a moon shot but it won’t budge. Don’t have the patience to figure it out right now but I use the 150-600 with the 2x and my d850 or 810 for astro. And it works great although I seem to be having problems seeing anything with the whole rig. Im down to thinking it may be condensation. How long do you think it should take to equalize from a 73 degree house to 31 degrees . Im trying to shoot Orions nebula. I have a tough time just finding things up there. I can see them with my naked eye but finding them in the viewfinder is tough. I’m in a wheelchair and I seem to be set up good but even finding Orions belt when its very bright has eluded me. If you have time to answer. Thanks for all your vids and I love your sense of humor.
Awesome video viewed a few people's posts that said just crop the picture but like you mentioned It's not so good. I own a sigma 70-200 2.8 and after viewing your review I intend to purchase the Sigma 2x converter. To me, it's a no brainer for a used excellent condition 2x converter on the web at $150. Thanks for the help oh and like others have said I don't think id be that close to the water with my back, lol.
Is it good to mix brands...Canon lens and Tamron TC? Or Sigma TC?
Great job!
Hello. What would you recommend from today's state, the 1.4 or 2.0 Converter? I also have the Tamron 150-600mm G2 lens and would like to have a bit more focal length. Lg Frank
What ya get I have sigma 150 600
Brazil’s Bend State Park about one hour southwest of Houston, Texas. I know it well! Crovid-19 shut it down yesterday. Best ‘gator park ever!!
So amazing to the the alligators up close. Stay healthy!
Is this Brazo bend state park?
Looks like Brazos Bend... I love that place!
Did not see your comment. It does look like it.
Thanks for making a video on this..
You are welcome! Thanks for watching!
thanks sir ur video helped me to buy teleconverter it think in good light situation the image quality almost the same
Your welcome, Admire! Thanks for checking out our channel
thank you one question though already bought fz300 and its on the way but i decided to buy Nikon TC-E17ED instead of panasonic lt55 , everybody talk about sharpness of its image quality so if that fir fz300 what adaptor do i need? is still la7 needed ?also what is best quality teleconverter that fit fz300 that have 2x or 2.2x if not im happy to buy Nikon TC-E17ED if fit lumix fz300 thank you
Great advice!
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching!
For birds and wildlife f/6.3 is already too slow, as animals tend to be more active early in the morning and in the evenings. A teleconverter makes that even worse. I haven't tested the tamron converter so I really can't tell how sharp it is. Even if it is reasonably sharp it will drive iso to unusable levels if you shoot moving animals that require fast shutter speeds. Teleconverters not only magnifies your subject they also magnify any lens errors or even add some errors of their own. To compensate for that you usually ned to stop down your aperture a step or two, and this makes the iso problem even worse. In general teleconverters are a bad idea on zoom lenses unless it specifically designed to be for that and matched to your lens. They work best on fast sharp primes such as 300/2.8 or 400/2.8
I'd agree that primes are ideal for their sharpness, especially with a teleconverter, but in order to be in focus edge-to-edge on a lot of birds, I've shot at f/13, even though my lens+tele setup can go faster. Newer bodies also can push to higher ISOs better...I've gotten some very usable ISO 8000 shots in the early evening of birds in flight.
Want more focal length for your lens? Take it off your 5D Mark III and put it on a 7D Mark II for a crop factor of 1.6X instead of using a teleconverter.
and what do you think the crop sensor does? High MP in the center of the lens ;)
I have a dilemma. I have the tamron 70-200mm 2.8 g2. But I am interested in the new 100-400mm as well. Would I be better off just getting the 2x teleconverter for the 2.8, that would make it 5.6 400mm vs. The 400mm 6.3? I haven't had good luck with image quality with teleconverter in the past.
Same situation here, about to get TC 1.4 X or 2.0X for my 70-200G2, because I can't afford super telephoto lens at the moment. What did you end-up doing?
Those drone shots were super cool!!
Thanks!
I'd watch out on the drone in state and federal parks... currently a no go.
I have no idea what you are talking about. Drone? What drone? I don't see a drone...
The Slanted Lens 😉
These are not the drones you're looking for. Move along... :-)
Can you use this converter with any other lens or is it just specific for this and won’t work at all. Want to know if it will at least be able to read the lens on the body if you use the adapter on something other than the two lenses
It is made for the most current generation of Tamron lenses and won't work on other lenses.
I use all Canon gears, DSLR bodies, lenses and teleconverters. Own both 1.4x and 2x. When I need maximum reach, I use EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II with 2x on an APS-C body. This gives me 960mm ff equivalent of reach. Tried to stack up the 1.4x with it via an extension tube. It works but have to focus manually as the AF is lost. I use 5DII and 7D bodies. Any solutions to make the stacked combo AF? Thanks in advance.
I don't think that is possible once you add the extension.
Hi Jay P Morgan, Great video. What is the location, name of the park where the swamp in Houston, Texas is located. I would like to go take photos
That is Brazos Bend State Park. Have fun!
Great vid... Coming from a film backround and just getting into high quality digital, the golden rule was only to use teleconverters on good prime lenses with fast apertures. I am a Nikon shooter that shot high school and college baseball, football. Started with the F 2AS, F3HP then moved to the F4S and N90S and I have a lot of legacy Nikon glass and 2 Nikon teleconverters. I never liked my results with the 2x on my 80-200 f/2.8 but found the 2x to be good on the 180mm, 200mm and 300 primes. Have the new teleconverters really come that far to produce quality images on zooms with modest apertures?
First, WELCOME to TEXAS and what appears to be Brazos Bend State Park. Next time you're in town, give me a shout out and I'd be happy to take you to some off the grid locations if you don't know them already. Thanks for the video, but I believe one thing you didn't mention is that by using the teleconverter your minimum depth of field changes as well, does it not? (i.e. f-stop multiplied by 40 percent). Ops, sorry. I see someone already mentioned DOF issues below.
hello texas!!
So for filming this video was the camera man using a Movi or some sort of drone?
No Movi or gimbal unit. There MAY have been a drone, but I can neither confirm nor deny that. Haha.
I have a Canon T7 and a Sigma 600mm lens, will the 2x sigma converter work on my EF Canon camera?
Teleconverters are proprietary to the lens not the camera. So the Sigma should work but I haven't tested it.
Hi.Thank you for this video. Im need Trleconverter for this lens Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM. Please good T.C. for this lens.
If you have a Canon lens you have to use a Canon teleconverter.
How good is the Nikon TC 1,4 and 2X?
Just as good as the Canon one I was using. I believe the only difference is the mount.
Thank you 🏆
You're welcome 😊. Hope you learned some good stuff!
Have you used Kenko HD Pro 1.4x?
I have not used it. Have you? Let us know how you like it!
is there any issue with putting a teleconverter on a prime lens? lets say at 50mm or 35mm???
Teleconverters tend not to work well with wide angle prime lenses.
Not sure I'd sit with my back to a river full of croc's! ;)
#guilty
MAXimus LAWLESSnessTM, that’s an American Alligator, the American Alligator are not terrifying, they are like big cute babies. They are part of the Alligatoridae family, including caimans which are a distant relative to Crocodylidae. There are only two known living alligator species today as well, Chinese Alligator being the other one. However there are a lot more crocodiles out there and are part of the Crocodylidae family. You also have the Gharial which is part of the Gavialidae family. The only species to really be aware of is part of the Crocodylidae family and that’s the lovely and dangerous Nile Crocodile as well as the Salt Water Crocodile. I’ll keep all the technical, Latin, and Greek names out other than the families to lesson the confusion. None of these herpetile are there waiting to receive hugs and kisses but you need to think of it like any animal. Even a so called domesticated dog can turn into a dangerous creature. No animal is domesticated, period, just levels of domestication. But again, it’s an Alligator and still don’t go to give the big babies a hug and a kiss like a would, I just love my herps. Apologies if I spelled anything wrong, my spelling sucks.
While making so much noise
I'm just the same with the mother-in-law.
It's a cool park, when you see them on the trail it gets your attention
can I use it in autofocus ? my camera is canon eos 700d with 55-250 mm lense
The autofocus is not as effective with a teleconverter. It can be done but it slows it down.
Nice info... but I think you missed the depth of field comparison.
I have Sigma 17-50 f/2.8, is it wise to use 2x extender to get more flat and neat shots? I love to shoot at 85mm - 100mm
You can
thanks
I have used teleconverters on my Nikon lenses ( 70-200 and 300mm) and Nikon 1.4 works great. But NEVER EVER buy an aftermarket converter, I did and I had all sorts of problems
What if you put a Teleconverter behind a Macro Lens?
I have never done it. Try it and let us know how it goes.
I photographed a 8 foot gater from about 5 feet away.
Crazy! They look so prehistoric. Thanks for watching!
I using 800 mm lens + crop sensors cam but not enough I have to use extenders to reach
That's a monster of a lens
So much fun.
Like .
Run dammit lol croc.
5:04 I wouldn't turn my back on that lake knowing there are massive carnivore reptiles in there :|
I am just the same when the mother-in-law visits.
man can hand hold 600mm , i cant 300mm , i mean i can if i want to lose 9 out of 10 shots , i wouldnt consider that as hand holding , 600mm nah .
Pavle Pavlovic if you’re losing 9 out of 10 shots holding a 300 then I’d just give up photography all together. 300 is easy to hold.
Another bad point for TC is the price at least for pro-grade ...
Good point. Thanks for sharing!
Tell em con burger
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Use teleconverter when you shoot apex predator
True, true, stay far away!
Very informative but you should have mentioned that Tamron only make these for Canon and Nikon mounts but not the Sony A mount, which is not good. Why produce the lens in three mounts then only support two.
Being that close to the water with your back turned is not a great idea with gators close .
Good point. Those things are dangerous!
Quote: "...using a teleconverter is always going to look better than cropping in". This is simply not true. There are numerous factors that play a role, mainly, the particular body and lens you're working with. Sometimes "cropping in" will result in a better image than using a 2X.
easy , talk to quick
Get 20 teleconverter and put a kit lens on it. No need for telephoto lens
That would be interesting to check out.
3:18 the Bipolar photographer..
Hope you learned some good stuff!
i hope he realizes that an alligator is a surprise hunter.. it will come flying out of the water from under water. i first thought he brought the younge child for gator bait.... ONLY KIDDING!!
Am I the only one thinking he shouldn't be that close to the river 'cause there might be a hungry gator behind him? Or am I watching too much movies and TV. =P
Maybe too many movies. Thanks for your concern though. I wasn't that close. Cameras can be deceiving.
Why do you talk só fast
Habit! Thank you for watching!
Don't listen to this guy and don't buy teleconvertor. They will ruin your photoes. I am sure this guy has been been sponsored by Tamaron.
Lol , side by side if you know what to look for , no teleconverter is better , look at the flowers and edges , f up on telesconverter , more resolution without it at least on the edges ,, man that telesconverter is not made for that lens , its a lie , its a generic one , you can see all the aberrations , cant be
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thanks