7 Alfa Romeos (since 1980) that DON'T SUCK
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Alfa romeo is very underrated tbh
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they SHOULD be competing with the germans but they don't release nearly as many commercial cars.
No it's not
@@fancy3774Alfa is actually overrated,I own one and my friend own 12 of it ,but still not a very good vehicle in any reasonable ways. But no one buy Alfa for rationality
@@dcode1000yeah that’s something I’ve noticed as of lately. I’ve seen a surge in Alfa romeos on the road since the debut of the quadforlogfio that came out during like the mid 2010’s like 2017 but I didn’t see alfas really ever before then so I still don’t see many. If they had more brand prestige and were more of iconic brand in the U.S. I think they’d sell a lot better because there’s premium cars from other car brands that are still in the ball park of being Alfa competitors that aren’t known for reliability, nice looking and feeling bells and whistles, some no bells and whistles that still sell a lot better and come from brands that are viewed better by more people too.
Alfa Romeo was once the greatest company in Italy in my opinion, only behind the Ferrari. Thanks Stype for giving love to the entire brand.
Funny how Ferrari was created after Enzo left them and started making cars to race inspired by Alfa, and when he won the first race agaisnt Alfa he was very emotional
@@gymusen and then Mr. Ferrari humiliated Mr. Ford and Mr. Lamborghini which led to the Ford GT40 and Automobili Lamborghini respectively. And then Lamborghini humiliated Mr. Pagani which led to Pagani Automobili. Alfa Romeo indirectly started the development of so many legendary cars.
@@mukulpanwar1046 Alfa even start the scissor doors trend that lamborghini uses in all their V12 models
Yeah. For sure. The 156 GTA Autodelta
ferrari wouldn't have existed if it weren't for alfa ;)
The Giulietta Quadrifoglio is very hated, in my opinion i have no idea why. Yes the quality isn't the best, but oh man it drives like no other hatch. It's very affordable for what it provides and with regular maintenance there's nothing to worry about. Extremely underrated car.
Because German car-pilled people have a bias towards anything FWD that isn't a Golf. It might even be a racist bias, because never in this world has ever been someone who criticised the VW Golf GTI for being FWD.
I love the giulietta to bits but they really don’t handle all that well, they’re geared to be more of a grand tourer than a spicy hatch so the suspension really is a bit too soft, however this is changed very easily
I had a Giulietta QV for 4 years, put 100k km on the car in 4 years and didnt had a single problem. Only the maintenance bills were very expensive
@@FSCBMrTrol sadly that's more the mechanic trying to nickel and dime you, by the time the Giulietta rolled around, all Alfa Romeo engines were Pratola Serra units shared with the vast majority of the Fiat group cars.
@@AlexTenThousand parts are expensive because every garage asked the basically the same price for everything
The brera should have been on the list, its just a hatchback but its the most beautiful one to have ever existed, it made an appearence in a nfs game, a rare privilage.
The problem with the Brera, and why I hate it, is that it wanted to be a much bigger thing that it is. The car feels soulless, since it doesn't have that charisma that made Alfa special. They wanted it to be a car that could rival their german competitors performance wise, but the couldn't. And to be fair I think the Brera doesn't even look that special, since in the front it looks like a standard 159 and the different back doesn't make it special. So I think a standard 159 Sportwagon would have been much better. Of course, you have your opinion, but I think the Brera is one of the most useless cars made. I just don't see a market that would like this.
brera wasn't an hatchback !
Brera spider too
The Brera is my dream car, I'm Italian and we had lots of Alfa's at home and I'm planning to buy a Brera, but trust me, is not a great car like the one who are showed in this video, maybe for just one reason, it's TOO HEAVY and infact if one day I'll buy one I'll improve all the suspension and probably do some weight saving.
@@lucapellizzari5892 i would suggest to you to remove the interior, you can probably get a custom racing one that will wight nothing to replace the old one, remove the radio and back seats but dont remove the AC or you will die
I honestly believe that the 159 is one of the most beautiful cars, regardless of price or segment, made in the last 20 years
The 159 is just a timeless Giugiaro masterpiece. And the Pininfarina modified Spider and Brera are just epic...
sorry to say ,the 159 is a americancar 400 kg too fat unreliable US engines. no Alfa more a Dustbin on wheels.,
As an italian i can confirm that the Giulia is called "quattro formaggi"
Ciao fratello
@@bho5224 ciao fratello
😂😂
I own a facelifted 156 and a 159 currently, leaves me a smile every single time when I looked at them parking at the same place and when I'm throwing it through corners, even if they're front wheel drive they handle very damn well, and none of them broke down in their lifespan surprisingly
i was looking at 159 1.75tbi and 1.8 versions do you own any of these two?
@@user-pk8ej6jm8w nope I have a 1.9JTD with a 6 speed, but 1.75TBis are definitely worth a try, it's probably the best engine option out of all engine options
I've had three 156 V6s over the last 12 years - currently own a 156 GTA - and they are unquestionably the best handling FWD car I've ever driven. My GTA in particular is like its on rails - aided by its adjustable coilovers and sway bars no doubt. Apparently quickest steering rack ever on a production car (1.7 turns lock to lock).
@@user-pk8ej6jm8wfrom my experience 159 is much heavier than any other models manufactured before 159 so it’s not that fun car as 147 156 166 and GT
A few facts to add a bit of context and share a bit more info with those who like this matter: - The Giulietta was a car Alfa had to make, it's blessing and curse was that in EU it sold very well, it looked so great that hey practically never re-styled it, a 2010 project that could compete with all the more boring competitors for almost 11 years,. indeed some aspects of it started becoming obsolete alfway. I've owned one for 6 years, never had any faults, with some good rubber, 1.35 tons, 170 HPs (gas), manual, with sport pack (-2 springs, Q brakes) was undeniably fun to drive and, surprise surprise, didn't understeer at all, it pulled easily more than 1g in corners, if you made it understeer, it meant you couldn't drive it. - 147, this car was the reason I ended up buying a Giulietta in my 20s. It was revolutionary, in a world where all hatches were FWD, this car introduced pure mechanical handling with double wishbones at the front and multilink at the back. I drove it on track and even a base diesel version could pull more than 1g in turns, everyone in italy loved it. It was the first fun to drive hatchback (except some limited versions of other competing models) - The 4C was expensive, because, unlike even some supercars, had a carbon tub. Go find a competitor to it. If you haven't bought it for the radio, you clearly don't know what a sports car is and you don't deserve and should never buy one. They are selling for up double the price now. - Stelvio, I tried to hate it, test drove it and purchased it right away. It's not like it drives better than most SUVs out there, it drives like a RWD sedan (better than most, except the Giulia, all others have worse suspensions and similar weight), you can't even compare it to an SUV. Ferrari engineers have worked on the suspensions (alfa can't say that in public but it was names who worked on the Enzo), has Zero understeer, and amazing 4WD system that works better than the one of a Macan, weighs 100 to 200kg less than any competitor, is reliable, sporty and comfortable at the same time (even without active suspensions), even a mid tier 2.0l gas does 0-100 in 5.7s, while still giving you 650km range. It's the total car, which sold less than it could due to sub standard infotainment at launch (which is what consumers care the most nowadays) Thanks for including also some honorable mentions! The 164 is a legend in italy, sharing the same chassis of more "boring" sedans, drove much better and had much more interesting engines (like the 2.0 v6 turbo). It was the first car I drove, and, while the FWD was a sin at the time to those Alfa 75 fans, with only 150hp it got effortlessly over 200kph, handled in turns and cruised with less than 70 decibels on board. I will never forget the shape of the dashboard (still a sexy design today - try saying the same of a contemporary BMW) and the super sporty front and rear seats, they don't make them like these anymore. I ended up almost buying a GT, same 147 platform but longer wheelbase and bertone looks. God I loved the interior, 4 real adult seats, large trunk, interesting engines, test drove a few, but had to move to another country. I still think it looks like the most beautiful daily coupe ever built (thanks Bertone).
I'd add the 156, 159 and Brera. IMHO the MiTo and the Giulietta weren't bad, but the fact that they were the only cars in the lineup (together with the 4C) was very disappointing. Even now the Alfa lineup is nowhere near complete, as Alfa Romeo only sells the Tonale and the awesome but aging Giulia and Stelvio. They didn't replace the MiTo, the Giulietta, the 4C, the 8C Competizione and the 166, and they didn't even make a coupè or a station wagon version of the Giulia.
My favourite Alfa is the Guilia Quadrifoglio. It's the most beautiful sedan in the world and with such a beautiful name ever given to a car the Giulia is a complete masterpiece that Alfa is known for creating. The Giulia Quadrifoglio is really "La Bella Beastia".
I own a Stelvio 2.0T Q4, Guilietta QV and a 159 3.2Ti fwd. The 159 is my favorite. One thing I've learned about Alfa's is to try them out yourself instead of relying on people's opinions
I still love everything Alfa Romeo does, even Alfa's most "boring" cars have much more mojo than any normiemobile :)
I remember first starting to watch this channel During quarantine, ended up following the whole journey to see how far he has come. Love this channel stype.
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I have to go with the 159 Q4 Sportwagon. One of the most beautiful modern designs imo. Too bad they took out the Busso, but I guess it couldn't be perfect
I agree. Good car
And the Brera ? The Brera is so unloved it hurts
@@harryhazza626 well, it's the coupé version of the 159, so it goes in the same bag. Alfa missed the chance to do something crazy and radical with the Brera, it was a good platform, and I reckon that's the reason why it's unloved as you say
@@martinds38 I'm not saying it's one of the greatest Alfas but I've owned one for 8 months now and all I see online about the Brera is people acting like it's a Lada , like something that needs to be ignored and shunned. It's a compétant , relatively reliable, knee achingly gorgeous 2 doors cruiser.
@@martinds38the Busso didn’t make it in the 159/Brera due to emissions standards. Yet all the press still blabbed about the 3.2V6 when in fact the 1750TBi is widely regarded as the best engine for that platform. So good in fact it got carried out in the Giulietta QV
My favourites that weren't mentioned here are the Alfa Romeo 159 Q4 Sportwagon and the 75 Milano
Honorable mentions: 1. Alfa Romeo 164 Q4 2. Alfa Romeo GTV 3.0 24V 3. Upcoming Alfa Romeo supercar which will make its debut on August 30
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The first car I got a car for myself, it was an Alfa. I knew it would cause problems and cost money, but it still makes me smile looking back at it in the carpark.
Enjoyable humor with a wonderful education on the Alfa! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I had a 146. That doesn't suck, because never broke down. Owned 5 years
As an owner of a 155Q4 it’s nice to see that it’s mentioned in the video.😎👌🏻
My home country Singapore, has plans to have “100% clean energy vehicles” on our roads by 2040. If that means no ICE cars at all and when you consider how much we have to pay to buy cars, you bet my one and only car would be a Giulia Quadrifoglio. I first got into cars around the time she came out and had won praise from everyone who drove it, evening lauding it above M3 and C63. The looks are to die for and it tingles all your emotions every time you interact with it. Great video man, ditto 100% on the fact that consumers are behind the SUV craze, not the manufacturers. Car nerds give them so much grief, but they’re merely responding to demand. If it went the other way, you bet everyone would drive around in something low, sporty and fast.
The facelift 166 was a gorgeous looking car. A real alternative to your Mercs and 5 series.
Well when you buy a 166 what you care the most is not the exterior (even if i personally prefer the pre-facelift) but for the interior. Probably the best looking interior ever seen in a car... And it handles surprisingly well for a saloon... Better than the 5series even, sadly the 166 GTA that could've competed with the E39 M5 never was released due to internal competition with the Quattroporte
Loved my 159 - 11 years of trouble-free motoring in a car that would turn heads for its beauty. Now I drive the Giulia Veloce - 90% of the performance of a QV for 50% of the price. Brilliant.
Perfect timing, Alfa is back in FH5!
Love your videos man, the whole package that is put in making them. Keep being a gem of automotive youtube that you are.
My mom has a stelvio. when it was stock it was almost scary to drive. It was tuned by Squadra tuning. It now makes 320 bhp wich is crazy much. it gives you cold rillings when you launch it as fast as you can
Stelvio QV or regular?
@@kevinlee8202QV is 510 HP
That's 2.0GME
Something is gonna break sooner or later…there is a reason Giulias and Stelvios have 2 coolant tanks (1 for turbo and 1 for radiator). The car overheats a lot…very poorly designed, there is a coolant pipe that connects from the top of the engine to the upper coolant tank that is made of plastic, that will break due to the heat and vibration of the engine. I highly advise if you want longevity and reliability of your moms Stelvio to remove the tuning chip or whatever you have. I am a apprentice at a Alfa workshop and I have seen turbo oil leak, coolant leak, fuel pump not working due to customers putting on ‘race chips’ on their cars and slowly 1 by 1 all are taking them off or selling the cars. Enjoy the car for what it is Alfa is a very special brand but not one to be experimenting on 😅 Cheers
@@kyledrysdale6553 nobody said they're perfect, and its not a race chip. it's a proper tune by a proper company 'squadra tuning' yes the car overheats but its not build to be used as a race car. you do a few pulls and then you cool it down again, every car has to be driven like that or else they catch fire. look at all the ferraris and meclarens and stuff like that. they can catch fire after 1 pull
not "Busso's Violin", but "Arese's Violin" as this engine was produced in Arese, a small town next to Milan where the og factory is
I had the Alfa GTV V6 3.0 which was pretty good even though it was fwd and the Alfa Giulietta QV again very good also. But nothing spectacular compared to earlier Alfas. They were more Fiats with an Alfa badge. I rented a 4C and that was a car that Alfa should be proud of was very light weight and fast but very quirky and can’t compete with Boxsters in terms of practicality which it seems is what people want also
My favorites are 159,spider duetto,4C, and Brera Q4
Thank you for mentioning the Brera😁
Brera looks amazing but is soo damn slow for the amount of power it has
@@TopCarsTV still a quick car , nice noise too. Going from a Peugeot 306 to a Brera , not many things to complain about really.
@@TopCarsTV but... that sound,god 🤤
You forgot about Alfetta, 75 and 156 models. Delicious and very awesome cars!
Yeah, for me the 156 (first gen) is simply the most beautiful sedan ever made. And as for the 75... I have one in my garage. Nuff said. 😘
The Stelvio is amazing, it doesn’t matter that it’s an SUV, it’s like a sedan
Well, it uses a Giulia (sedan) platform
Great video. Edits were funny and not crazy over the top. A really nice balance of education and entertainment. Seriously amazing content guys!
Thanks man 👍
@@TopCarsTVjdm cars that should not have died plz
My favourites alfas are the RZ, GTV from 00s and 90s (the one icnluded in the honourable mentions) 4c, MiTo and Gulia... How can you go wrong with this pieces of art (and how can you go wrong with that beautiful MiTo hatchback or that sporty GTV with that noce V6 engine and that weird but pretty design? Cant really its worth the pricetag of 3.5k € (yes i found one for that cheap and its all good))
I remember in Germany you had to aply for the 8c and show a resume as a proof that you was a real Alfa fanboy
I've never seen TopCars change a video's thumbnail 4 times, now i've seen it for the first time.
Oh man, i really adore every video you post. You deserve and you will acheive 1 million subscribers. CUUUT!!!
I still love the 155's sad face. 😁
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Dude, I own an a gen 3 Alfa Spider. You nailed every description of it. I love my Spider so much. I even have the hardtop!
Don't start me on the Spider. My parents gen 2 one (Coda Tronca, 1978 model) is responsible for having contaminated me with the uncurable Alfa Virus. 😊
The 147 GTA with the v6 is really fun to drive is like a go kart. And then the sound😍
I had 159 1.9 jtdm yes a diesel but damn it was fast not for a diesel just fast and handled very well. I will buy again for sure.
1.9 is a pretty bulletproof engine no matter the power variant but powerhouse wise the 2.4 L5 is a masterpiece
@@takao4491 yes and they rev like gas engine
My father was an Alfista and, for my opinion, you miss some important models as Alfa GTV 2.5 V6 and Giulietta 2.0 Turbo Delta
In fact most Alfa models were good to drive and had nice performance. Some had minor technical issues but then so do most cars. The only real problem with Alfa is that they have a bad reputation but that's not been based in reality after the '70s.
Stopped by Starbucks this morning. Pulled up to drive-thru window and the barista asks, “OMG, are you driving a Brera?” I nod in response. She begins jumping with joy and says, “OMFG it’s a freaking Brera! John, look! He’s driving a Brera! You can speak Italian right?!” I proceed to say spaghetti and rev the engine through the 4 exhausts to spur further joy. She exclaims, “Oh my gossshhhh, oh my gosh! I’m so sorry I’m freaking out! Here’s your coffee have a great day!”
And than everyone clapped lmao
I love my Guilia Ti with the 2.0, the fact that the platform was built for the QV first then dumbed down was a better move than suping up in the reverse. You get all the chassis, and handling, weight reduction and distribution plusses with a fairly potent 4cyl turbo.
V6 is better
I had an Alfa Sud back in the 80s, only a 1200 but it went like a rocket! I agree Alfa's are underrated.
The giulia qv is probably one of my favorite cars of all time, it's just so good.
Recently bought a brera and havin much fun with it. Love to see an alfa vid of you again
Honestly every single car Alfa Romeo made before being bought by fiat (up to the 75) is amazing. All of their rear wheel drive models where known for being exceptional in the corners and very hard to oversteer thanks to their 50-50 weight distribution, and the 33 was THE front wheel drive sports car at the time
But build quality was indifferent and rusting terrible until the 75 when both improved a lot.
@@timhancock6626 was it? I’ve no experience with old Alfas so I honestly don’t know, but the “alfas are so unreliable” to me sounds like an urban legend more then anything else.
yes it is an urban legend. In my family we got Italian cars in general for a pretty long time, not only Alfa... And well I think as long as you do the maintenance as it is told in the manual, nothing should go wrong. Always heard people bashing and questioning about the reliability, then saw them having trouble in their fancy german or (even worse) french counterparts while being absolutely fine
@@takao4491 though so… Alfas are so rare outside of Italy and yet people who have not even seen one in their life insist that they are unreliable. Same goes for fiat. I drove many new pandas and new Toyota Yaris and I can say the build quality on the fiats was way better
Rust protection on American models. improved around 1978. The very early GTV6 (1981) had a rust trap at the top of the front wheel wells, but they soon fixed it.
I recently found what my favorite Alfa Romeo is: 1969 33 Stradale with 1 headlight within the housing.
The cheapest 4C I found in Europe was 63,000 EUR. Obviously a used one. Considering that the MSRP sates 67 000 USD which is around 61 000 EUR it is safe to say that used car dealers are greedy assholes.
I brought a new vacuum cleaner It sucks..
Badum tsss
Without seeing the Titel Just by looking at the Thumbnail i tought hmm that Looks Like topcars without seeing the Publisher love your Channel ans your Thumbnails i think they Look super cool and a whole Lot of efford ist Put in These Videos
You left out the 164S, a car I owned for nearly 10 years and I still regret selling. Great comfortable car with great looks from every angle and that wonderful V6 that loved to rev to and beyond redline with no issues and that typical Alfa sound! Superb short throws gear box, what not to like? Fortunately the "selling bug" never effected my '88 Spider, a wonderful little car, as I affectionately call, that turned out to be the most reliable vehicle I ever owned. I have no concerns about taking it for long trips and it's a blast to drive. The Giulia and Stelvio? The front is Alfa, no questions, but the rest have generic looks like a lot of vehicles on the road these days whereas in the past an Alfa was unmistakably ALFA no matter from which angle looked at.
I loved the designer of the 8c when he was interviewed. He basically said his just wanted to build a modern Ferrari Daytona, and well mission accomplished.
Im seeing somewhat more consistent uploading schedule, kinda awesome
today is gonna be a good day. got my stype video in and had my coffee,
Wish they had included the Brera ( even though it wasn't sold in the US ).
the 159 could have made it to this list as being one of the best designs ever, sadly fiat feat gm kinda pooped on it. Imagine it was a pure alfa romeo underneath.
I owned a 2011 159ti with the V6 GM engine. It zipped fuel like crazy, and considering it was a 256hp AWD V6 engine car, it wasn’t as fast as you would expect (0-60 in 7 sec)… and yet, oh, how it drove and sounded. I also think it should’ve been on the list for the looks alone. Some people took pictures of it in parking lots…
I have had almost every model from the last 30 years and not a single one disappointed me
159: am I a joke to you?
That Busso sound...goosebumps!
Great video mate - made me laugh several times, cool editing too. Subscribed 😎👍🏻
Thanks man 👍
Small correction: The V6 Busso is called "Arese’s violin”: Arese is the name of the city where Alfa Romeo's largest production plant was located (Active from 1963 to 2005).
Alfa Romeo = TopCars TV = underrated
the 4c sounds so good i saw a lot a week ago and their sound is amazing for a 4 cyl
Also have to include the Giulietta and Tonale. Good cars!
Hi Stype! Love all your videos In this case I’m afraid you made it a few months too early. I mean, the 33 stradale would probably have made it top of the list (even if it turns out to break down on ignition, the design alone would entitle it so). As you’re a designer, I’m sure it blew your mind !
Let's not forget about the most beautiful starter car in any NFS game ever: The Alfa Brera. This car is so beautiful that you're best off leaving the car's looks at stock, saving you lots of money for the later game. And in real life, its only weakness is the timing belt, which needs a replacement every 70 000 kilometers. Apart from that, it's an all around scrumptious car to have. I'd love to own one.
Unfortunately it has a Holden V6 in it (from GM Australia), why they didn't drop a lightly turboed Busso in it is incomprehensible. The Giulia Quadrifoglio is spectacular and should be on the list
Next One: "Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale" MY2024. 2 million $ price tag,, but all unit sold by during a week-end, one year earlier than the public release, before anybody ever seen it
The Guilia Quadrifoglio is my reminder on why I love cars so much.
I love this channel so much and the commentary is amazing. The stale jokes kill it for me though
True
Great vid❤
I was expecting to see the 156 Crosswagon here
Been a huge Alfa fan since the "Graduate" days. So many bad cars but some moments of genius too. But what I really wanted to say is thanks for making a car video that only isn't boring but is actually laugh out loud funny (while still being perceptive about cars). No small feat! Sincerely, Very Much Impressed in the southwest of France
I think all of alfa romeo models are cool and impressive 😁 Except the one called *Arna* 3:39,4:40,5:22,9:00
Yeah, the Nissan Cherry piece of sh*t.
Great video! Alfa is growing in reliability and has started producing great cars, better form what we can get these days (too many boring cars)! The QV (Giulia and Stelvio) are just pure driving experience and daily user with no sweat.
There is also extremely rare TZ3 Stradale, which is basically an Italian Dodge Viper
As an italian thank you
I remember when my father bought me and my brother an Alfa when we were young just to keep us away from trouble and back in the garage fixing our cars after each ride.
I owned a 159 SE. Fabulous car.
You miss the Alfa Romeo 159 that, in my opinion, is one of the most beautiful Alfa’s ever made.
Not the Tipo33 Stradale? Not the 8C? Even Brera?
Idk what ppl say I grew up with alfa and i will always love alfa
9:39 That was an awesome Joke! *chef's kiss*
Thanks for this video! Alfa is a legend, no matter the "bugs" it always has!)))) Plus the design - bellisimo)))
The Guila's 2.9L V6 is also in the recent Ferrari 296GTB, and has been in several Maserati models in the last decade.
You, sir, are the best car reviewer / historian on YT!
BAH!! I would never call my self any of those. I'm closer to a shit poster
@@TopCarsTVYou definitely like Jeremy Clarkson.
@@redim777 I hope he does not
Every Alfa is good in my opinion 🔥
Alfa Romeo is underappreciated for way too long! they need to get more attention.
Between the 8C and the Viper GTS, I can't decide which looks better
Ah, if only you waited a month or two to release this video. Brand new Tipo 33 just came out
Imo the 156 gta deserved to be on this list too. The uncle of the giulia containing the legendary busso but still maintaining 4 doors that made a crazy family car (especially in the 2000s) with 250 ponies powering the front wheels thru a manual or a semi-automatic gearbox.
Hate suvs almost love the stelvio. Rode in one on a Uber ride. Was super nice! Probably the only Stellantis vehicle I'd like to have, oh and a guilia and a spyder
What about the 156 GTA?
4:43 initial d fans gonna undertand that part
159 and new Giulietta gets undeserved hate imo. Giulietta in the 60's was a people's good looking daily driver. New one fits in that role perfectly. I don't understand what the car community wants from a daily driver hatchback
I think you could get a Q2 diff in a 147 GTA. That helped get the power down better.
I'm not an Alfa Romeo enthusiast, but I know how much these modern Alfa Romeos are hated on. Even tho I like some models that many people don't like, like the Brera and the Giulietta...
I just bought an 88 spider and I love it
The Spider "Duetto" was the series 1, from 1966-1969. Also known as the "boat tail". In 1970 the tail end got chopped and they were then referred to as Kamm tailed and were no longer called "Duetto".
Question of the day: which is the best 4wd car ever? (saloon, hatchback and more)
Different answers. Imo, it is the Impreza WRX STI though there should at least be a better 4WD car unless it's something like the Lancer EVO. If 4WD as in just 4WD, no AWD, maybe a Jeep Wrangler? idk. People have different perspectives
918?
4wd is not awd are you talking about proper offroaders ?
Also and AWD too