What A Pistol Duel Really Looked Like
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The grim reality of formal dueling as told through the story of England’s last fatal duel (between Englishmen). When Lt. Henry Hawkey discovers his wife has become the obsession of a man named James Seton, he resolves to deal with the matter by means of a gentlemanly duel. The video will also touch on the history of sword duellists, honor culture and more!
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Saunders, W. H. (1880). How Lieut. Hawkey and Capt. Seton quarrelled at Hollingsworth's Rooms, and the duel that resulted from it. In Annals of Portsmouth. essay, Hamilton, Adams & Co. As cited here historyinportsmouth.co.uk/even...
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Please do Sikh vs Afghan history
Turning an m1 garand into a piece of jewelry is a sin
Solid Proof of all your claims is required.
History has to have solid facts to prove it true.. Do you have any?
@@williamfoster2681 its alot better to recycle metals than to just peave em to rot. BTW, thoses rifles are plentiful enough that just a few years back, they'd sell for less than a 100$ CANADIAN money. Plenty of them means plenty of scrap, bad, unusable metal - yes even uns7able as a wall hanger! Please, think a bit further before you post such 'deep' comment. A 'sin'.. Pffff. The rifles mean nothing, the many barrel replacement they had thru the years also mean nothing. The real sin is the purpose for what they were built. The purpose, not the object and what is being done with scraps of them. Please... help us all by swallowing thoses unhelpful emotions, you'll b3 the first one to benefit from that im certain. BTw, i couldnt careless about them stupid rings, or any rings. Garands are just a product of time and so are you, me, Michael Jordan and my 1972 GMC big block. Thanks for your time.
Once he called him a "scoundrel" I knew shit was gonna get seriously out of hand
It was the "Blackguard" that made me clutch my pearls.
I nearly spilled my tea out of sheer surprise, my ladies face was aghast with Shock, never had such crudeness been orated in front of her
More like seton not getting out of the fucking seat!
😂😂😂
Haha touché
Moral of the story. Be careful who’s honor you’re fighting for.
Given that you're holding a pistol in your profile photo, it seems you know of what you speak of, kind sir 😂
A girl worth fighting for, just not dying for.
@@symmetrymilton4542 Yeah and when you die for her, she finds herself someone else within a year lol
@@mustardbiscuits9750 Yes, love is rarely as serious as it seems, a bit like life itself
@@symmetrymilton4542 either for me maybe back then but not the woman of today your shot dead and she still sleeps around
My father had a set of French duelling pistols - interestingly, the bore on the barrels of both pistols was offset, so at the average duelling distance, they would shoot a couple of feet to the left of the target - Of course if they were your pistols, you would know that and adjust your aim accordingly, while your opponent would aim as normal and miss. Damn cunning those Frogs. It's a cruel world.
I always thought people brought their own.
That's the typical French honour showing true.
As a French person, I challenge you to a duel😡
@@Minskpotato Will the pistol you give me have skewed sights, barrel, firing mechanism or dual pressure trigger?
I choose to use a baguette 🥖
A joke that I read somewhere. A young husband came home from a long travel abroad to find his best friend in bed with his beloved wife. He reproached his friend for such heinous act but his friend said he was the one the woman really loves and that the husband should concede. Enraged, the husband challenged his best friend to a pistol duel in the living room and the friend accepted. Somehow, by the time they entered the living room they had calmed down and decided that it was not necessary to destroy their long term friendship over this. So they discussed and reached an agreement that they would each fire a shot into the ceiling and lay down on the floor. When the woman come to them, the first person she went to check would be the one she loves, and the other one should concede. When the woman heard the gun shots she rushed to the living room, stood at the entrance and saw both men laying there motionless. She then rushed back to the bedroom, stood in front of the closet and said,"Honey, you can come out now. They are both dead!"
Ouf... That's a good/bad one.
Bro, where did the friend get hyenas? 💀💀💀💀
plot twist: there was a mirror on the closet and she was telling herself to come out of the closet bcos all along she was really a lesbian
@@Brother_K Hehehe, I believe he was trying to say heinous. The joys of autocorrect.
Boomer humer jeez
Isabella was the true villain in all of this.
How?
Women enjoy when men fight over her .
it's kinda wild that a man would rather duel another man in an attempt to "keep" his wife than just accepting that his wife is unfaithful (& also to blame) and moves on.
If this was me I would have a duel with my wife rather than fighting with her lovers 😂
@@halla7328 Seeing how Isabella separated from her husband later in life, Isaac probably means she should have separated from him much earlier if she really did fancy other men Not that this takes any blame from Mr. Hawkey People just don't like cheaters is all
This man said “I’m off to France” after bodying a dude who tried to get with his girl. That’s sone cold shit 😂😭
That's such a badass one liner.
A Royal Marine is muscle for the Crown. One would expect no less.
He was attempting to evade arrest like the coward he was.
@@RideAcrossTheRiver Wished you'd lived in Paris at the time, and I could read what happened to you after you said that to his face. That would be some funny shit.
@@DrCruel He ran off to evade arrest. I'm sure you'd do the same.
She offered her honour He honoured her offer And all night long, he was honour and offer.
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hahahaha
Bruh
You took my honor reading this, all night long.
Deserves to be top comment!
"Visiting her at her residence while her husband was away on duty." Some things never change.
Jody has been around for a long time
@@richardg.7455 Jody Jody six foot four, he ain't never been beat before.
Hawkey was a real one.
He’s just like me fr
He was dumb M’lady neckbeard
Why dey do my boy hawkey like that?
@@PudgyFat Not likely.
He’s a simp
Can't wait for them to tell me in the most grim voice possible of how Lincoln dueled hundred of Vampires two hours before he became president.
Yea I wonder if they’re gonna get into lincolns werewolf lore
Or an even bigger lie: Lincoln abolished slavery. LoL. History really is "his story"
@@strawmonkey9944 I never knew Honest Abe could swing a hammer like that till I watched that documentary movie...
@@costlesssquash Damn leftist conspiracies even here?
@@cyanideinmycereal1077 That's a conservative talking point, not a leftist one.
The surgeon Robert Liston was a very importantman. He invented the Liston knife, a surgical knife used for amputation. It increased the chance of survival drastically.
He was also about a year out from pioneering general anesthetic. Seton missed the boat on that one. The famed Joseph Lister was also one of his students!
fun fact: There are still pistol duels taking place in hungary with austrian university students. But in germany and most of austria since the 19th century we switched to swords with a tight set of rules that make fatal injuries almost impossible. But if you are seeing a german with a scar in his face there is a high chance that he dueled before.
Heidelberg scar
@@christianoliver1942 Exactly, I even live in Heidelberg, but still without a scar ;)
So that would be the moron of the group
Is this the same thing or in any way similar to the mensur scars?
@@rustomkanishka Yes it's from the mensur.
"im off to France" after shooting some is absolutely one of the hardest lines ever
I would rather hang than go to france at that time.... And i feel like i'd probably hang if i went there now.... I've shared the expensive watch meme a few too many times
Hawkey was as "on sight" as it gets. Or for that time period it was probably, "Upon thine presence!"
More like "Next time I see you"
It wasn't on sight though Hawkey let Seton slide multiple times before challenging him to a duel
It was the mid-nineteenth century, Casey, not the bloody sixteenth. Queen Victoria was on the throne. England had a substantial and rapidly growing railway network. Darwin was working on the Origin of Species. That very year saw the launch of the SS Great Britain, an iron-built steam liner able to complete the transatlantic crossing in two weeks. This was the industrial era; the beginning of modernity. Nobody said "Upon thine presence!"
@@baerlauchstal Well said
@@baerlauchstal it was just a joke lol put your encyclopedia away
7:47 I like how the dramatic, elegant music just cuts off as the narrator is like: "Ey yo, he beat the dog shit outta his ass with a stick."
I finished listening to "The Count of Monte Cristo" a couple of weeks back, and Alexandre Dumas captures the particulars of duels in great detail and accuracy. Of course, Dumas was a contemporary, or would have known those who were. Still, word for word, your retelling of the event matches the culture represented in the book to the letter. There is even a situation in the book where someone tries to duel someone who has no interest, and to provoke them into it, attempts to insult them publicly to force their hand.
I'm reading the book right now as well! Damn fine bit of literature if I do say so myself, no wonder it's a classic
Which edition are you reading?
Pray you don’t find a woman like Isabella. Stay safe out there kings.
Cope.
@@spicytrash4981 What does that even mean in this context
@@ante5544 He’s a cuck and he’s telling us all to cope because his wife gets used by 10 men on the nightly while we refuse to date someone like her.
@@ante5544 he's probably a kid who recently discovered the word.
@@spicytrash4981 you belong to the streets, we can tell.
Duels were so prevalent in eighteenth century Ireland that the country was described as being "knee deep in blood." They were hugely problematic as they often got way out of hand and were fought over the smallest infractions. James Kelly's 'That damn thing called honor' is a fantastic book on it.
Can confirm, that is a fantastic read
I will absolutely look into this book...thank you!
@mike devaney absolutely do, I used it as part of a thesis a few years ago and can confirm there is no more comprehensive study on duelling in Ireland.
Dunno if checked out the face on otto skorzensky. The German upper classes would form fencing clubs for young men, and some would end up with cut up faces. It was considered a badge of honour.
@@Admiralofthedeeps absolutely thanks for the shout!
Jody is one of the constants of military life through the ages.
Extremely well done. The graphics were stunning, the voice over carried the perfect level of 'gravitas' and 'horror-chord'. Impressed!
Isabella was 4 da streetz
😂
Srs tho she got like 3 men killed fr fr
The more things change, the more women stay the same.
@@chico9805 Ain't been touched my dude?
@@spicytrash4981 No, I haven't been touched by my uncle. Shame the same can't be said for you.
RIP Sir Hawkey, a man of honor until the end.
How? He was clearly violent and lacked any self control.
@@boarbot7829 Not really but alright
@@boarbot7829 You'll let your time run out before you fight for something you believe in, you are a coward
Nowadays society celebrates the Cuck Norrises
@@boarbot7829 "lacked any self control" Bruh how do people like you make internet comments on a different time with people you don't know with such authority/certainty😂 that behavior is so wild.
Confederate Civil War soldier Sam Watkins wrote in his book "Company Aytch" of a duel he witnessed during the war. He described the scene as the Confederate and Federal armies were camped on opposite banks of a fairly short river. Conversations between the two sides were common and normally friendly, but a Union soldier began to mock the president of the Confederacy decision of removing a beloved General of command and replacing him with a man of much less popularity. Soon a heated argument broke out between the Union soldier and a man who was with Sam at the time, the Confederates calling him a liar without honor. Eventually, a duel was agreed upon, if both sides agreed to let the situation be played out between only the 2 men without any other interference. The 2 men had stepped out into the open, each armed with their rifles (which were pretty much the exact same) and waited for the command to begin. Once the order of "FIRE!" was shouted, both men began to fire away. Both men were able to load and shoot 7 times before the Federal soldier shot the Confederate in the chest and hitting the man heart, killing him instantly. Sam described the moment as, "the poor confederate was dead before his body hit the ground."
This 'over the shoulder' depiction at 5:10 is magnificent. Joseph is a truly outstanding. The moment I have enough saved, I shall buy several prints. I hope this will be one.
As a serving royal marine commando I’d like to thank you of sharing Hawkey’s story I hadn’t heard it before and I doubt many people within the Royal Marines have. Nonetheless it’s very informative and it’d be great if you looked deeper into the Royal Marines history for a future video or something. Thanks
Also a serving Royal Marine and I fully agree. Brilliant channel and the corps has so much history which would fit these videos perfectly.
Thank you for your service gentlemen.
Are all royal marines commandos? I was told that marines are considered special forces in some nato countries because unlike US marines, other marines focus on beach raiding still
Anyways correct me where I'm wrong.
@@helpimstuck9410 realized I should have @u
"I'm off to France" what a baller
19th century way of saying "Aight imma head out"
@@joesephjoestar4449 No, I think it's more the noble's/rich kid equivalent of saying 'I'm gonna go hide at my uncles house". He fled, he just had money to do it so it sounded cooler. Like if Elon Musk hit someone with his car and then announced "I'm off to the moon", it's not because he's gangster, it's because he's running away... with a lot of money.
@@dishonoredundead idk, sounds pretty fking cool. And Elon would go to Mars. The moon is for losers, like Richard Branson.
@@dishonoredundead To be fair would Elon willingly face death and then ask for another roll of the dice?
@@randymagnum143 > Elon would go to Mars. Well I'm sure he'd like to, but it seems he really can't.
This art is amazing! The one of the duel in front of the shadowed buildings gave me chills.
these videos are always amazing. the only problem i have is that ive seen them all and want even more lol. the art, reading, writing, and editing always has me captivated.
Yet another wonderful, informative story that would have otherwise never been beknownst to me. The narration and story telling is truly exceptional, dare I say masterful; no other channel immerses me in a tale the way that History Dose does and I must give credit where credit is due. Let us hope that this, and all future videos, will thrive on KZhead's algorithm in spite of unwarranted demonization and age restriction.
the motif used in Barry Lyndon right as they continue to duel is a nice touch
Interesting story. But be careful with tungsten carbide rings - they can become a real problem. If you hurt your hand and the finger swells, its really difficult to get the ring off. That can complicate the treatment.
7:23 That was the last *fatal* duel. The last and final duel on English soil took place on 17 february 1946 between two Polish officers. They used sabres and nobody died although one was wounded.
Non fatal duels still occur, but they usually use fists.
@@noblestsavage1742 Well if you consider ordinary fights duels, then the most recent fatal one would probably be within the past 10 minutes
@@the_Overture Does somebody getting shanked in the gut in london count as a saber duel?
@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle I'm not sure it counts as a sabre just because a turk's wielding it, at the very least
we aren't the ones doing the shankings at london lol@@Simon-xi7lb
Never stop making these. These stories you've told I've fallen in love with. You give glimpses at history and humanize them to become relatable and easier to gain a perspective to how things really were back in those times. You've found your niche, never leave it dear sir.
A threat by horsewhipping would have me disheveled and taken aback as well. I can concur Sir Seton’s actions as measurable 🤵🏽♂️
horsewhipping sounds unpleasant but is a distant second to dying of sepsis after suffering in agony for two weeks.
@@sburns2421 But MUCH more dishonourable. No gentleman could allow such a threat to go unanswered, let alone allow it to be carried out.
@@brucetucker4847- then I guess I am not a gentleman. I would not have ignored the threat, though. I would have informed the local authorities and Mr. Hawkeys superior of the illegal threat being made to my person. And then I would laugh my ass of as he was stripped of his colours for conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman, and I would buy a ring for Isabella with the restitution money from the legal case. As it is often said, revenge is a dish best server icy cold.
@@JanBruunAndersen I was talking about the social norms of that day. Today we have a very different concept of what it means to be a gentleman.
@@brucetucker4847 - I have tried hard to never be a slave or a submissive to society's social norms. I am not entirely sure if it was because I never managed to fit in, or because I instinctively rejected the call to adapt in order to fit in with the crowd. Either way, I wear my badge as a misfit with pride these days.
Cool video. Hawkey and seaton's duel is truly an interesting subject when talking about dueling. I never knew about this infamous duel until now, so thank you for this history! 😊
Handels "Sarabande" as used in the duelling scenes of the film Barry Lyndon🌹(1975) Beautiful film.
This is the perfect video. I've just finished reading The Count Of Monte Cristo, and always wondered what duels would be like in those times. Thank you!
France actually continued using swords for duels throughout the 19th century! If you like the Count of Monte Cristo, check out our video on the author Alexandre Dumas’ father, Thomas-Alexandre Dumas
great book!
@@HistoryDose Thank you for your reply, I believe the did, and like England I believe it was illegal(ish) too? Your video on Thomas Dumas IS the reason I read the Count of Monte Cristo, I've been subbed for a while now.
Read/watch "The Duelists/The Duel" if you haven't already and find the subject interesting
@@Dive2005 I wish you had been here a few days ago, just started Crime and Punishment, will read that after. Thanks!
I wonder if poor Seton fellow thought that Isabella was worth all the pain and misery he endured in the last days of his life.
Seton lived the last moments of his life as the living embodiment of "fuck around and find out".
@@kaptenlemper or as they say around here ..........dying for a ride .............!
@@georgedoorley5628 Rode rage.
Yes, that was a truly horrific way to die.
Wdym ‘ poor seaton’ ? He actively tried to take another mans wife and acted like a true dickhead. He had it coming
That's some insane good story telling. Incredible work!
Just discovered your channel and I have to say your narration and editing is wonderful. A new favourite on youtube!
You genuinely make the best historical videos on KZhead. The way you tell these stories and make use of audio and visual stimuli is amazing. Genuinely have me so engaged in things I wouldn’t otherwise.
The tyranny of beauty once again left a trail of broken hearts, dreams and lives in its wake.
Just your standard 304
That was a super interesting story, thank you. I've never heard of this particular tragedy, someone should make a series or movie about it
Would love to see how you make videos like this behind the scene. Really love the style.
The mix of the art & narration of first hand accounts truly make this channel special! Absolutely love history!
This was a really cool episode I really enjoyed learning more about how these duels worked and how they viewed it back then ! Thanks for the info and time
Wonderful narration, informative content and .... superb artwork. Hope you get to sell the originals!
I love the artwork you guys use. The editing and narration is great too.
Man the art in your videos keeps me coming back. Really beautiful. Makes for incredible visual accompaniment in contrast to regular history channels.
This is the 3rd time I'm watching this in less than a day - as someone who exclusively listens to classical music, your music selection is *cheff's kiss* perfection!
Maybe we should compile a soundtrack for this one!
@@HistoryDose Absolutely!
That's pretty sad, tbh.
between narration and the imagery you have one of the finest history channels
What a great story teller. This was very interesting and informative!
And then he beat him with a cane 😂😂 found that part hilarious
Another incredible video as always that really captures an interesting and unknown story, these videos are genuinely perfect. The narration, the storytelling, and the visuals are just flawless. I don't know if you take requests but I would love to see a video about the pirate queen Zheng Yi Sao in the future, I think it would be amazing to see in your style. Thank you for what you do.
I like the commentary, elegant and restrained, it really gives you a sense of the epoch. Thumbs up Mister, you're doing a great job!
Thanks! I always try to write in a style that compliments the subject matter.
*duel commences* "I'm off to France" *refuses to elaborate* Isabella: "NEXT!"
Hawkey taught him the timeless lesson of f around and find out.
As always much appreciated and keep the great knowledge and content rolling in. Be well ✌🏾🤙🏾
Best history channel out there! Keep up the good work!
It’s so awesome to put a face to the really eloquent voice that narrates so expertly 😊
I can’t wait to hear how my intestines would have been blasted out of my body through a foot wide hole in my abdomen because my friend and I both liked the same girl
It's one of the few channels where I liked a video before I even watched it and never got disappointed.
The woman who caused the dispute was delighted by the men fighting over her.
I have often called for the return of the pistol duel.
Jesus, man. Henry got done dirty.
Damn that was good stuff. The writing, delivery, original artwork, everything.
*CRIMINALLY* underrated channel. literally some of the best history content coming out on YT
Lucas Conner - _sucky sucky sucky_
I be at the crib doing backflips and somersaults when this damn channel uploads
I love these videos about relatively unknown stories and moments in history, but I have my fingers crossed for a video focusing on the Mongol defeat by the Mamluks
i really appreciate the sharp shift from melodrama to anti-climactic bluntness between 7:40 and 7:51, probably my favorite bit
Binge watching this entire channel after finding out about it a couple days ago, incredible videos 🙏
This might be my favorite channel. It's interesting and motivating in my career. I would love to see a video on the First Special Service Force in WW2 Italy. True Rambo guys, and not well known.
Another great video. I LOVE the variety of your vids; your knowledge and insight on the subjects you present truly span time, distance, and culture. Keep it up brotha!!
Thanks! I try to keep the catalog varied!
Thanks, I understand duels with pistols were often fought at even closer ranges, sometimes both duelists simply fired in the air, and honour was satisfied.
Insanely remarkable channel! Please keep doing what you're doing!
Always a good day when you post! Keep up the great content
I really hope you guys don't get demonetized on this one. As soon as I saw the decapitation, I thought "oh no, don't do it KZhead!" Amazing video as always (especially the ones involving muskets and baroque music!)
Oh shut up. It’s people like YOU that get channels demonetized. Making a big deal about some mild gore? There are videos on youtube containing graphic nudity and even child pornography. Shut the hell up.
@@flintsky7706 Rofl you are way off on this one - I run a couple channels and deal with this stuff as well. I watch every single video these guys put out and turn off ad blocker so they get revenue from it. I say that to them as a fellow creator, not as someone complaining about gore. My videos include blood, violence and gore and I understand what it means when you spend 100+ hours on a project only to have YT demonetize it. Take a step back, take a deep breath, chill out and understand I'm on their side 100%. Or don't, IDGAF *For some context, they removed their comment*
Strat, you are obviously repulsed by any description of violence, which is why you like History Dose and all of its 100% family-friendly content :) P.S. thanks!!
@@HistoryDose lol it's why I built a channel about a game where is common to cut people's heads off with an executioners axe by the dozens :p But seriously, I hope you guys are making the money you deserve.
Ur everywhere 😂
"Scoundrel?" Oh, I fear my tears shall stain my petticoat!
Only defend the honour of someone whose honour is worth defending. - Napo Orso Capo.
Using music from Barry Lyndon was so fitting. Great choice
I was looking for this comment.
Isabella belonged to the cobblestoned streets.
...very interesting post, young man...your promotion for those Thorum rings was also well written and delivered...I'd get one if I had the moolah!...we'd get a chuckle hollering, 'pistols at dawn!' when we were children, not realizing that through which real duelists would pass in their scenes!...
Brilliant presentation. Loved it.
Tfw you can’t strike down a ruffian for the honor of your slain father in a trial by combat in 2023. Why even live.
Is it me or does Seeton and Hawkey seem reminiscent of Pierres duel with Dolokhov in War and Peace
There's a film called The Duel, apparently well regarded.
The Barry Lyndon music really brings it together. Well done
What a cool story!!! ... well told, my man!
I love your medieval vids like the Viking Hardrada and Mongol vids I want to see more of this especially I hope you do a battle of Thermopylae video or a Oda Nobunaga video and a Timrurid video the sacking of Delhi
Hawky: sir i should like to have a few private words with you! Seton: this man is about to end my whole career!
Beautifully narrated - it's so rare.
Hey awesome editing. I loved the shot where it zoomed in on the sword and zoomed out into a pistol. All of course under a wonderfully written script.
Thanks!!
We make the best rings. Duel me.
irl, most people who got shot back then didn't die quickly. Bullets were very low velocity and people who got shot usually lingered around suffering before they finally died an agonizing death from sepsis or internal hemorrhage.
As was tradition
Was your comment made to refute what happened in the story? Because that's exactly what happened to the guy.
Exactly, in some cases, both of them died later. Even an already dying guy could shoot his opponent back, and make him expire the next day.... It was believed that if you still had the right to shoot, you were supposed to take your opponent with you. Many duelists even made up their minds to resolutely respond with fire without hesitation, to not be confused in the event of suffering their own agony after being hit....
@@DennisNeijmeijer Sure, custom dictated that you should return fire as long as you still had the right to shoot and were still able to aim at the opponent... At short distances, even those who were already dying sometimes hit their opponents in the last seconds.
That short pause directly followed by “Hawkey beat him with a cane.” was absolute comedy gold
Thank you for putting the commercial last, and the point of the video first. I gave you a Like and Subscribe.
“What is to be done? I have already on this account sent a fellow creature before his god, and am I to do it again?” Who was this guy
A man of his time honour was everything
You would have to be a man of true conviction to stand your ground in a duel especially knowing likelihood of a slow, agonizing death. That said I believe living as an honest man would be the better measure.
Joseph Feely is going OFF on these freaking images... legitimately the first time i've stopped what i was watching to scroll down to the credits
Never test the courage of a man who comes strapped with a pair of hair trigger pistols of fine workmanship