i rise once more for yet another in depth analysis of everybody's favorite "dying" franchise. but this time it's personal.
this video goes out to my mom for buying me pokemon diamond as a kid. i've never recovered.
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This guy is like my dad he only visits once a year and whenever he does it's something special
My biggest complaint was that it was a "faithful """REMAKE"""". Let's be honest, it's a clone. It's a graphically upgraded clone. There is "nostalgia", and then there is playing the same game again. I played until after the league and then quit with a bad feeling. When BDSM came out, there were already almost 1000 Pokemon... yet we still fought the same 10 Pokemon over and over again against every trainer.
When I realized that we only get one chance at a remake it hit me so hard. BDSP just make me sad
And now they wanna remake Unova. Which is honestly my favorite in terms of graphics. Custom battle movements for pokemon, the musical bit in Nimbasa City, obvious Driftviel's theme (but all of the music in B/W/B2/W2 rocked), are all amazing! So hearing it might be remade too makes me... well... nervous.
The real tragedy is nobody got a redesign like why didn't they make the leader of team galactic a dilf like maxie and archie
29:38 They didn't "miss" their chance. They squandered it. There is a difference. Quite a substantial one at that.
Aww yeah, these videos make my year.
Lmao, of course they asked a lactation association to develop the remakes, no better group to help milk the original games.
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Amongst the recent pkmn releases... this one doesn't deserve the discussion
The scene from 16:40 - 16:50 really cracks me up not only because Stel reacts like that but also because of coupling it with calm music from Eterna City and then a scream/groan reminds me of one of those horror films you would play to scare your kids. 😂😂
I still want surf and fly to come back. Those were some good ass moved
Ngl, no, you should just emulate Platinum. You really should. It's the definitive way.
Your experience with Gen 3 is literally the same as me. I can't get through Emerald to this day.
This comment depressed me on Christmas...
I can easily get through RSE... IF I COULD AFFORD IT
@@Mewtwo_150 emulator?
I had the exact same experience you did with these games, right down to Diamond being my first game. Someone else put it best, did they really think we've all been replaying Diamond and Pearl these past 13 years? No we've been replaying Platinum. The biggest middle finger of this whole thing has been that one of the preorder bonuses was the Platinum Outfits!
Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl broke me as a person. It is thee main reason I'm so unbelievably disappointed with Pokémon.
yeah, i had a similar experience tbh. i had fun playing it! its * fine *. but ill just emulate platinum 😭 loved the video!! your content is always so great and i smile every time i see you in my subscription feed : )
how in the world do you only have 5k subs ??? the quality of your videos is like that of a 1 mill subs youtubers holy heck dude you're awesome
I know right, he's so well spoken and hilarious!!!
ah of course a lactation research group. perfect team to make a pokemon game. should have made them do some pokemon lactation simulator while they are at it.
FINALLY someone around here who agrees with me
21:16 the physical special split was crazy in pokemmo when that game was just gen 3. You build pokemon with the weirdest moves ever in gen 3.
They fucked up the Gen 3 remakes, and they fucked these up too. At this point, I don't even care for BW remakes, BW2 will still be better, and it's sad, but I can say that with complete certainty. Pokémon has died for 10 years now, all they do anymore is beat it's rotting corpse, like with these.
Hope your channel grows
The only thing I was thinking when this released was why didn't they remake the better version, Platinum.
Firstly, thank you for the video 🙏 Secondly, the answer for 3:25 is that Japan fucking LOVES gen 4 and they buy anything related to it, even if it sucks
Love these videos bud, keep doing what you're passionate about!
I still cant get over the fact that ORAS didnt include the Battle Frontier, seriously, the only reason why ORAS isnt a 10/10 remake is because of that, its a 9.5/10 :(
Still to this day cant believe how low effort and awful this 'remake' is. The amount of actual handholding in this one is probably the worst part the game treats you like a complete idiot.
So glad I found this channel again
I love Gen 4 and Sinnoh I grew up with it and I recently played Platinum for the first time and even though I find Platinum and most 3rd versions to be overrated (or down right bad in the case of the ultra games) I had practically the same experience as Pearl, however I did see how it improved over the originals. So to see that BDSP didn't include anything from Platinum unlike other remakes did with there 3rd versions is disappointing to say the least. That's ultimately how I feel about Shining Pearl it's a big disappointment. Imo it's worse than the original DP in most regards.
Really good video though I'd like to know what were ILCA's original plans and how much Game Freak allowed/micro managed
Platinum's got more content so I'm sticking with that, did the same with let's go, fire red just has more stuff.
The vid we've all been waiting for
Best underground KZheadr. Best Pokémon KZheadr.
really excellent video. i now want pokemon jack black and walter white (18:24 i played these games on a flashcard with a decently modern micro SD card, and it always saves within seconds. it's great)
I’d just recommend people play renegade platinum instead since it’s amazing
bro that's crazy how much I agree with everything you said in this video down to the gen 3 takes and pokemon battle revolution
Fun fact to those who like the music, the music playing in the background is Gymnopedie No. 1 by Erik Satie.
amazing work as always!!!
Having never had played a old Pokemon game and only experienced arceus I absolutely loved this game and how “it was the exact same game” as the old ones so I could actually experience them in a way. I feel that if u have never played Pokemon then this is probably one of the best. But I can see how as a returning fan it’s bad
If rumors are true ILCA is currently developing HG/SS remake :(
Legendary vid as always
HMs are good in theory but they keep giving that status to otherwise useless moves that not many mons can learn. Clover did it mostly right
I'd like to say knowing what is a 'viable Pokemon', for beating mainline Pokemon game story, isn't as important. It's not competitive battles, you can beat the game fine with almost every Pokemon, and it's honestly lot more fun in-terms of coming up with a strategy with more 'uncommon' Pokemon that people use. Or using moves that aren't STAB, if for the Physical/Special split doesn't favor it's typing and it's stats. This applies to even Generation 1, all the way to current generations. Like I remember playing through Pokemon Diamond myself in it's cart recently, I beat Cynthia's Garchomp with my Lopunny. Though as I've noticed Gen 4 does have a problem of lacking in Fire-types, which is true. And I think it sucks that BDSP got subpar remakes. If they go back to Johto, be it Let's Go or others, I wish they would actually expand more than what Heart Gold and Soul Silver. I like Gen 2, but there's noticably lack of.. 'Flair'? Or perhaps further polish of Johto as a whole, even if there's alot of overall features that add more replayability.
I was sceptical the moment the game was directed by Masuda. I know Masuda made the originals, but its still Masuda who doesn't understand anything what the fans like but Music. It's kinda weird how awful these remakes are. From the design it seemed like its going to be a cheap and easy to develop game... they still failed. I hate DP so I hoped when remakes were announced they would take all the good stuff and make it better. Tho I gave up on it after SwSh came out so I never had any hopes for the remakes. The only reason I am forced to play them is to get certain items because I can't bare erasing my Platinum File and HGSS I still have some good items to trade over. The only way I can get some kind of fun is either I trade over useful Pokemon that aren't in Sinnoh like a Fire Punch Hitmonchan OR I use glitches like in RBY and get Pokemon that I aren't suppose to obtain. Like Darkrai, Shaymin, early Cresselia or Arceus. Even then its minimal. I don't know how many trainers have half a team full of just 1 Pokemon. 3 Roselia, 3 Geodude, 3 Goldeen, 6 Magikarp, 3 Bidoof, 3... 3... 3... Bronzel... they are awful and slow. btw, jokes on you. Gamefreak even see Legends Arceus as a throwaway title as they announced a new generation just 1 month after Legends Arceus got released. It kinda annoys me because I was already in defense they were rushing that game and know I know why. We are getting 3 Major released in 1 year, and yes these new gen games are coming out this year.
I enjoyed it. Diamond was my first mainline Pokèmon game. I was especially glad that they (mostly) nailed the remastered soundtrack. I remember I used to fall asleep with the DS by my pillow so I could listen to some of the songs. But let's be honest. This BDSP was closer to a remaster than a true remake. Other than the Grand Underground, it didn't innovate on the originals. That's why, to me, the games are DECENT, but not GREAT. And when you said that this was their only shot, it hit me. Gen 4 is still my absolute favorite. I think it really deserved to be great.
I'm a bit late to the party but I definitely agree with yuo. BDSP aren't 100% bad but I still can't get over the whole game being stuck in a grid tile formation and how much they fucked up Pokemon following our characters. I mean why?! HOW?!
Breakable TMs were the proverbial straw that convinced me to skip these games.
20:42 SOMEONE FINALLY SAYS IT!
Could someone please tell me the name of the piano song playing in the background?
He’s such a legend for using music from Pokémon conquest My man😎
Funny thing for me is that I played a rom hack of platinum(Renegade Platinum) that basically did so many quality of life changes that I was hoping that bdsp did. But nope they really saw Diamond and Pearl and copy and pasted it lol
I wish it wouldve at least had the omega/alpha style character models overworld
ORAS doesn't outclass Emerald, only Ruby and Sapphire.
Welcome back King
"if you even think of touching black and white i'mma f*ck you up" LOL!! Best ending Stel 10/10 I'm glad I never purchased the remakes, without megas or anything added aside from the new underground thing it just felt like a $35 game for $60 instead. And like you said, the "faithful remakes" are still worse than the standard Platinum sadly.
Bruh, I'll be right in line behind you to fuck em up, they best stay away from BW, and if GameFreak attempts it, they better get it right. We need our message to be ckear though, we have to be clear and firm with them about what we want, an HGSS tier BW remake
DPPt was my first Pokémon generation too. Glad I didn't pick up this remake though, I knew it'd be rushed and here we are.
I wish the cute charm glitch was available for the remake😥The majority or all Pokemon games have beautiful music.
as someone who has never played these games, you are wrong and i am right
Hey.. Maybe we’ll get a platinum remake that’s much better..? Maybe?? Please..
The thing with Metroid Prime is, Nintendo wanted the series one and for all dead. And Prime should be an excuse for it why we don't get no new games after this this "failure", problem it was a huge success. One ex retro studio guy said, Nintendo don't cared about the Metroid Prime project. And the whole Situation was super weird, because they had little no commication with Nintendo.
Honestly my main issue with these remakes is that they didn't want to pick a lane when it came to how faithful to the originals they should be because even if the end product still was mediocre at least it would be consistent.
7:04 they faithfully remade that from DP as well as a typo when you beat him in the galactic HQ, even tho Platinum fixed the typo and the boss title... THEY REMADE THE TYPO!!!!! 7:19 that was in DP but wasn't in Platinum, played Platinum a while??? Also the music has always been good in the Pokemon franchise
21:50 bro never heard of GBA SP
Hey what music did you use at 18:46?
ludwig the holy blade from bloodborne
Gen 4 was so FORGETABLE. by the time I got the remakes. I pretty much went in 100% BLIND as I couldn't remember a single thing about it. I forgot chimchar even existed or that he was a starter. I didn't even finish the game. I completed the pokedex. got the national dex before I even attempted to do the league.
It become suck because people are more excited to wait for Legend of Arceus because they also see the trailer of the game same day as BDSP trailer.
Honestly, I don't know why TPC didn't just give this to Genius Sonority.
The fact we need BDSP to get Darkrai in Arceus is ridiculous….
Yo i can’t wait for Jack Black and Walter White.
But if you remade it as Pokemon Resplendent Platinum, you'd sell half as many copies as if you had both Brilliant Diamond _and_ Shining Pearl! After all, most of the really dedicated players are going to buy both (or all three, or all four) main line games in every generation at full price and all of its DLC regardless of quality. Me, the only Pokemon games I've ever had are Blue, Yellow, and X and it's probably going to stay that way.
Spoilerz: its still a bad, worthless, cashbrab. In relation to the other remakes, and in relation to its generation.
It sucks, cause I just played it, and when the Pokémon is in very low health health I tried to catch it, and it deflected it over 36 tries before I ran out of pokemon balls
I played gen 1 as a 5 year old so I may or may not be a bit older of a Pokefan... but I do love gen 4's music and Pokemon a helluva lot. I'm actually not very nostalgic for my starting gen. I actually like gen 2 and 4 the most. I appreciate 5's story but though the starters sucked ass and that there were a lot of hideously bad Pokemon designs mixed in with some really good ones, but the good ones were often late or post game.. Not to mention, why the fuck does everything have to evolve at level 50+ in those games? That was a so god damn aggravating for me. Ahem, I'm rambling now.
Even though I personally don’t like the state of the gen 4 remakes I always keep asking the same question every time someone brings up that these games didn’t contain platinum content. And that question is. Why should they? None of the other remarks add content from their respective third version game. Fire red and leaf green didn’t have any of Pokémon yellow’s content, Hart gold and soul silver didn’t have any crystal content, and omega ruby and alpha sapphire didn’t have any emerald content. So why should gen 4 remakes have platinum content when none of the other three remakes had third version content? I don’t like BDSP for many reasons. But not having platinum content (even though platinum was my FIRST Pokémon game I EVER played!) isn’t one of them. It would be a valid argument if all the other remakes had content from their generations third version but they didn’t. So I never expected gen 4 remakes to have platinum content because why should I expect them to? None of the other ones got this type of content so why should they get it?!
Lol faithful remakes.......still puts in fairy type. Making cynthia seem like a chump compared to her old self
Listen, I get that it fits the theming of the Creation Trio, but you called Team Galactic "Team Plasma" several times in this video. :/
what the fuck. this videos a year old and nobody’s pointed this out. im mad as fuck
@@hiimstel lmao 🤣
Oh boy! I can't wait to go back to dominos with this information I just learned!
Stephanie George did all this herself?? That’s very slay of her
LETS GOOOOOO
Ok, the removal of HMs wasn't a plus, and Gen 3 were the absolute best, but otherwise I agree.
Short answer? Yes.
26:00 Fake info - cause you can't get Sylveon ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 32:47 Personally - this is not it. We deserved something better than a port with few extra stuff, with cut out moves and bad DP Pokedex. The only good side of BDSP is that because its done on common engine it will be easy for modding. Good for ILCA, feck Game Greak and their lazy asses. They have millions from all those games, ripping off children every Christmas (literally), they should have hired a proper team for this, give them even 5 years to do it and bring us something actually good. What's the point of a Remake, if it isn't better than original game. With history of games like HGSS, ORAS or even LGPE - this is a joke. Especially when Gen 4 would be perfect to finish doing remakes, cause it will be crap to Remake BW without BW2. Like it was garbage of them to remake DP without actually including Platinum into it. ORAS was the route they should have taken (aside Battle Frontier - cause Masuda can go feck himself, especially with his dirty mouth lying once again about "faithful" remakes).
HMs were NEVER stupid, I absolutely disagree, and I am complaining.
houndoom's name 😭
My only gripe with this game is that this game is SOOOOOO SLOWWW. It takes forever to get from place to place.
People cried over a faithful remake when they literally said it was gonna be a faithful remake
At least it's not as bad as scarlet and violet
BRO PLAYED THE BEST YE LEAK
based based based physical special split in real life
I think the games are perfectly fine, there are some REALLY bad flaws, but over all it's nothing terrible, just boring, forgettable. There's nothing that makes it stand out compared to the other remakes. It's fun, fine, but just as mundane as it can be. The soundtrack is good and fine, but some songs are a bit worse. Sunnyshore City I found had less of that "This is it! Let's go!" feeling. You know, it's the final town, the final gym leader and only a few obstacles remain in your path to the champion, you just feel amazing and ready for anything. The city theme opens with what I can only describe as a synth organ, and it just feels off and sounds off as well.... until near the end with the saxophones. When the two saxophones start playing together, the song becomes AMAZING, but the lead up there just sounded eh. The movement is glitchy. Nothing else to say. The grand underground was interesting, but the removal of secret bases was somewhat disappointing. I have fond memories of playing with my friend in the underground, trapping him and stealing his flag. It's always been fun. Ramnas Park was an interesting conclusion, not a bad one though. Not much I can say about that, it's just... there. I liked the game, but I can say that it's pretty mediocre for Pokémon. ILCA wanted to make the most faithful Pokémon remake. Unfortunately, they succeeded. If it was Black and White that was more faithful, then sure, it might have gone better. However we have Platinum that would have made a better faithful remake. Platinum fixed so much of what made diamond odd. From bizarre gym order and nonsensical progression, to the terrible movement speed, and the horrible pokedex, Diamond and Pearl are some of the least polished and among the worst original games in the franchise, so choosing them to be faithful with is... odd, to say the least. The remakes are fine, just... disappointing in some regards, and over all I have fun with them, but they truly are just meh.
WHO IS STEL WHERE IS KYLE
Habbo hotel 😂😂😂
Ilca? More like Milca.
swag vid bro
Yeah, we're basically in the same boat here. The way I like to describe these games are "serviceable, but not exceptional".
Theres always Lets Go Sinnoh... oof
Did you say “Team Plasma”???
tldr yes
People the games were actually intended for need grinding as a mindless repetitive task that bolsters a sense of bond between player and mons, players like me. Exp Share should've never changed from being a single mon hold item.
I just found a female ralts in the underground :)
it's fine but definitely not worth what i paid for it.