A7S iii vs A7Rv - Is The PHOTOGRAPHY Camera The TRUE KING?!
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Figured this is helpful: R-series = photo camera S- series = video camera No letter = hybrid.
Pretty much, yeah
@@DannyBligh yeah it's their naming convention for their cameras that they've used for years.
Well summarized thank you!
what a fantastic short film. Thank you.
This was a great review, there doesn't seem to be a lot of reviews between these two cameras and you provided a lot of great insights between these two cameras. You've helped me with my decision to purchase even more....thank you 👍
My pleasure! What was the choice you went for?
@@DannyBligh well I haven't made my purchase yet because I feel like the A7S4 might be out before the end of year, but per your review I am leaning towards the A7Siii. I actually called Sony this morning to inquire about when the A7S4 will be available for purchase, and they don't know yet, do you have an assumption on when it will be available?
If I took a guess, I would be wrong! Sony keep everything to themselves and the creators they work with - I am not one of those! The A7Siii has been out 3 years now (roughly) however there were 5 years between the A7Sii and A7Siii. I do not believe that the A7Siv will be announced before Christmas, I personally would say the that the earliest will be October/Nov 2024
@@DannyBligh another great observation... thank you. It's starting to sound more like I should purchase the A7Siii because I want to start working now. I'd just hate to make such a large purchase and then the A7S4 drops.🤷
This is what I was looking for. I was feeling bad for selecting a7rv over a7iv, because of video incompetency (what people keep saying). But now I feel relaxed :) Thank you Danny
I think for the price it’s a lot of money for only a little better video capability over the A7iv. But you also get better AF and more scope for photography. But it entirely depends whats you need from a camera! Your phone is great for taking photos, but so is a £10000 Leica 🤷🏻♂️😂 i personally think you made the right choice, i like the a7iv but it didn’t feel my requirements but it may be perfectly suitable for somebody else. Thanks for watching ✌🏻
It's called firmware updates. Don't ever compare the A7V against the A7iv.
Thanks Danny, this is very helpful, I'm trying to decide between the A7R5 and the Panasonic S5II, at the moment I'm nearer to the S5II because of the open gate video, but Ive a bit of time to decide because I'll buy just before our end of financial year.
The S5ii looks an incredible camera! Either way, you’ll be getting a great camera
Apologies for the length of this video!! But I wanted to get as much as possible in to the video! What do you want to see next?
ar7v vs a7iv video comparison
@@JiteshJadav if I can get hold of another A7iv for a week then sure thing!
@@DannyBligh Thank you Danny :)
Would love to see that as well, ar7v vs a7iv video comparison, thank you
@@DannyBligh Better a7iv vs a7rv image & video comparison (different lighting condition). That's the confusion within people. Hope you will get hold of a7iv soon, also hope Sony won't come to you personally (requesting for deleting the video 😂 ). Just want to know, why I paid or people should pay the extra 30%.
I enjoyed the video! I don't mind the length, so no apologies are needed!!! I'm a camera nut!!! I'm thinking of getting the a7r5 to replace my aging a7riii!!! How was the focusing in low light for the boxers, and what ISO did you use??? Did you get any camera lag when shooting in HI+???? New subscriber!!!👍👍👍🙂
I shot some of the video at like 6400 all the way to 10000 and the photos even higher at some point to get them tack sharp. I do have a video about the whole event, actually deleted it by accident the other day (the pains still there) but i’ll be uploading it soon again. No lag, it’s solid. Focusing was great, no issues at all. Keep an eye out! It’ll be up soon
Thank you for your info I can't wait to see that video.👍
Great video lad! 🎉
Thanks Ryan!! Such a beast to put together 😂😂
Thanks for that. This is the comparison I wanted to see. Not in a hurry to upgrade so might hold out until the A7S4 arrives and see what that offers.
My pleasure!! Glad it’s helped!! I’m really interested to see where Sony go now, so many new cameras coming every month from all the manufacturers. Thanks for watching!
I don’t think there’s a a7s4 coming anytime soon. Maybe a fx3 mkII or fx4
@@daniellrodriguezs2308a7s4 sept 2024
Thanks Danny, your review can save my money for chaning to A7Rv .😊😊😊
What?! Nooooo you still need to buy it 😉😂😂 just joking! Hope it helped ✌🏻
I'm kind of surprised camera manufacturers haven't figured out rollling shutter solutions via software yet. Hopefully, that technology comes through soon.
We can put a man on the moon but not solve a rolling shutter with software eh?! 😂😂 thanks for watching!
They do have a solution, super fast read-out. It just takes too much cost.
Black magic have rolling shutter repair in DaVinci. Crops a little but fixes the rolling shutter with Gyro information (only on black magic cameras).
Hi,I’m going to start my journey as a cinematographer in music video can you suggest me any Sony camera to buy.
I just got a7s3. Will be testing it today Hope it all goes well I.A
Enjoy!!!
being an wedding photographer & cinemotographer i usually use a7s3 for video and a7m4 for photos can u suggest me can i go for a7r5 for both at a time??
Depends what you need from your cameras, if you are shooting in low light and don’t want grain, have the a7siii. If you don’t need 120fps and low light capability, get the a7rv. I have both and will be happy using both at a wedding. The a7iv is great for photos but ultimately, for what i need, the crop in s&q was annoying so i got the a7rv
The upgrade to the A7RV from A7iv is substantial for photos and general usability. The EVF is incredible as is the 4 way screen. I’ll be posting a video soon about my experience thus far between the two.
Sir sony 7RV or sony S3 which is the best sir plz parches u tell sir
This video tells you pretty much everything you need to know. Unfortunately there’s no best, just better for your situation
I recently bought a few SanDisk extreme pro rated v30. Upto 140ms write. It wouldn't work or?
They will both allow you to use that card but you won’t be able to use all of the features. There’s a video here for the a7rv kzhead.info/sun/Z6tuqpWjqJh8po0/bejne.html And a7siii kzhead.info/sun/m8WqptyvsYJrgH0/bejne.html They should help ✌🏻
8k Anamorphic 2x, 102MP, 16+ dynamic range stops and 80 base IS0 with the Fuji GFX 100s M2, take that Sony 😎
Honestly, to my eyes, I don't notice much of a difference between the A7SIII and the A7RV footage seen in your video. I do know that the A7RV uses pixel binning for 4k 24, 30, 60p unless going super 35 crop? Meaning that even the A7IV video will have more detail since it's 4k is downsampled from 7k. However, the fact that someone like you who owns a A7Siii (which is Sony's best video camera amongst their alpha lineup) is speaking highly of the A7RV makes me happy. I should be getting my A7RV in today to replace my A7IV which I thought was already an incredible camera. Great review though, subscribed. Looking forward to more of your content regarding the A7RV.
I genuinely love it!! Don’t get me wrong, the A7Siii is still king but for certain situations. So intrigued to see what Sony do next though… Thanks for the sub, enjoy the content!
Let me know how it goes James, Ive still got my finger hovering over the buy button on the A7R5.
I just got an a7cr and have been super happy but I'll be extremely honest, I knew almost nothing about cameras going into this and this was the first camera I've ever bought on my own (had a Nikon growing up) so I didn't know that megapixels would have any great affect on my videos. While I am a hybrid shooter, I do care a lot about video quality and was about to return my A7CR and get the A7Siii to get that video quality benefit, but seeing as the A7CR and A7Rv are so similar, I dont think anyone would be able to tell, other than the rolling shutter results. Quite happy with my decision now. While i think the A7Siii is the better video camera, i think the A7CR or A7RV is just much more versatile, seeing as the video is as good it is with along with the photography perks as well. So in summary, to me at least, it seems like a better hybrid camera. Don't think I'll be returning it. Thx!
With any camera you’re always going to have to sacrifice one thing to gain another 🤷🏻♂️ not used the a7r but have the a7cii, great little cameras that pack a punch! You’ll love it
Great video
Thanks Raph! ☺️
I feel they have forgotten the A7S3. It’s my only camera atm and idk weather to keep it or go Fx3 or hybrid and go A7R5
I 100% agree with you! There’s so much they could add via the firmware but they just aren’t. Fx3 at the moment is definitely pushing the boundaries along with the fx30. But the A7R5 is just hitting the spot for me, just so damn expensive 😂 much cheaper alternatives out there
It’s still a mega camera though! I almost prefer the stills from sIII over 7IV, I can’t explain why I just do.
@@jamessonfield i think i just need to shoot more with for still and get out of my head. I’m suffering from shiny new camera syndrome lol
@@jamessonfield oh absolutely! I still use it a bunch! And the still, i know what you mean… me and my mate use the a7siii a lot and we always say the stills just look 👌🏻👌🏻
@@user-wv2ih9pe2u That’s exactly why I bought the A7IV, it was new and exciting. I definitely didn’t need it, the A7siii does everything video wise I will ever need, plus I only post photos on instagram and social media so the SIII is more than enough, even with a fair crop it still holds up really well. I’m never going to print but others have even proved that even then in the right situation 12MP is plenty. But yes Sony really do suck with firmware updates.
Hi, I am from INDIA 🇮🇳🇮🇳 and I was very impressed after watching your video and a lot of confusion got cleared. But I need a suggestion from you --- Can I use SONY A7SIII for web series , short film and cinematography?
Thank you. You can definitely use the Sony A7Siii for all of that. The camera gives you (almost) the same quality as the FX3 and the FX3 is ‘Netflix approved’. That means nothing for most of us but it’s shows the standard of these cameras
Great Video, I am sitting here and have been for a couple of months tempted to trade in my A7S iii for this Camera. I go back and forth on what is important to me, what would I lose out on or notice moving to the A7R V compared to my A7S iii, and I still haven't made the move. Like your last statement, it isn't an easy decision to make and the fact I am still not committed says I should probably stick with the A7S iii. Those additional features though .. oooooo so tempting !! Knowing my luck, I will go for it, then an A7S iv will come out a few months later with all these features and a bump in Megapixels .. thanks again for the excellent comparison, it's the best Video of this type out there.
Thanks Paul! The additional features such as the AF is just incredible. But I didn't realise I needed them until I tried them. The sole reason I bought this was for pixel peeping because I had never done that and as a b-cam to my a7siii. I'm in no way connected to Sony (if only...) but I saw an article about the A1ii coming this year but didn't read it. That may be a good indication of what you could expect on the a7siii as the A1 is a mixture of the A7Riv and A7Siii. I have no doubt in my mind the the A7Siv will show it's face within the next 18 months (this September/October will be the 3 year anniversary of it I think), but the comment about the MP in the next one, I can't see it happening. They could maybe push 20mp but they need to keep the photo sites on the low side to keep in with the theme of the camera. But what do I know, I could be totally wrong. It's exciting regardless. What should you do, only you know! A little insight for you; I run a wedding photography/videography business (www.blighandguyweddingvisuals.co.uk) and my partner shoots on just an a7siii for photo and video. The photos after a little playing with come out incredibly good. It takes incredible photos but the MP is low. After a little 'enhancing' in Lightroom they are almost indistinguishable between only photos from my a7iii and the a7iv I hired last year. He has just ordered an A7iv to pair up with his a7siii as that doesn't break the bank but does what he needs for the weddings and other jobs he does. Whereas I didn't want the a7iv. It's down to your requirement and only you know... but I'd definitely recommend trying an a7iv and seeing what you think, much cheaper option
@@DannyBligh Thanks for the really comprehensive response, I really appreciate it. You know what, you have given me the PERFECT idea. I didn't actually think of the A7iv to be honest, as you are right, if I want to keep the amazing Video of the A7S iii but want Photography improvements, just opt for another Camera. I think I just got sucked up with the improvements to AF with AI, as one thing I struggle with a little on the A7S iii is the AF, but only due to my own experience not the Camera's fault. I LOVE the ability to have profile photos and it just concentrate on that individual. I am going now to read the reviews on the A7iv and thanks so much you have really helped me here. I did contemplate going for the A7R V, accepting the limitations on the Video compared to the A7S iii, then in the future buying an FX3 for Video only, but that is obviously a very pricey approach. Damn Sony Cameras .. I am obsessed and it's costing me a fortune lol
Ha I know that feeling... I just dropped 4 figures on a new lens last night... There's a few videos about the A7iv on here, including comparing it to the a7siii and my initial impression of it. Go back through the videos to about 6-8 months ago and it should be there I think. If you have any questions, let me know!
@@DannyBligh thanks!! Perfect
@@ThomasStaabUSA thanks Thomas yes a great point. I’ve just taken the plunge and trading in the A7S iii for the A7RV and I’m excited to get this camera !!
Danny what do you think of Taylor Jackson and Manny Ortiz's claim that the A7R5 is the only Sony camera they'd trust for auto white balance, plus they both say the metering has been improved.
I trust their opinion! So the a7iv I didn’t use enough to really comment on specifically the AF. The a7siii, i think it’s not bad at auto WB, sometimes it can be a little off but when I shoot the weddings I just use auto all day long and it’s turned out fine. The only time we don’t us when we are filming for a long period of time (speeches and ceremony). I’m sure the Rv is better, is it the only Sony i’d trust, no i’d trust the S3 too but it has been off at times. The metering - I have actually noticed the metering to be about a 1/3 stop out between the two but didn’t really think much to it. Again, metering for me is something I don’t use a huge deal. When it comes to video I use zebras. And photo I use a combination of zebra and multi metering. Long story short, I don’t really ever shoot in auto iso or wb (or atleast enough) to have a comment. Manny and Taylor are very credible sources of info, but if you’re somebody like me that doesn’t really use them features then no claim or even feature will effect me. I hope that answers your question!
@@DannyBligh Danny what is the start up time like, from idling
I know you hate the crop, but if you shoot the A7RV at 4K/30 in crop mode, the video is MUCH sharper and looks better than A7SIII. I still prefer shooting video on tve FX3, but if I have to grab just one camera for travel/vacation it’s the A7RV.
Funny that you mention the FX3… dare I say I would prefer the FX3 over my A7siii too. But agree with the travel/vac comment, my A7rv has been so many places already in recent weeks, trying to organise a trip to Norway at the moment. Thanks for watching!
So is the dual native iso 2500 or 3200 on the a7rv
It’s 2500 in s-log3, i got it wrong when filming this video, sorry
@@DannyBligh does that mean it’s worse in low light and high iso then the Sony a7iv and the Sony a1
I think it’s identical to the a7iv in terms of low light from the dual iso perspective. No idea on the A1
@@DannyBligh so the video and photo low light and iso performance is the on both a7iv and the a7rv
@@benlangfeldt-pd8gj so, for video when in s-log3 the dual iso is 800 and 2500 on both cameras (a7iv and a7rv) however on the a7siii it’s 640 and 12800 For photography none of the above can be taken in to account. They work similar to all of them, the A7siii looks great in low light up to around 6400iso (from personal use) however because the pixels are so small on the other two cameras, the noise is less noticeable
is rolling shutter really that bad? like most shots arent going to be high action
Well that’s the thing! A lot of people expect 0 rolling shutter. Ideally in that case you’ll get a camera with a global shutter 🤷🏻♂️ I’ve seen so many tv shows that have that rolling shutter look. As long as in general filming it looks okay then I don’t see a problem with it. 8k on the A7Rv is awful though imo. The shutter is terrible and unless my cameras on a tripod and I need to crop at some point, i won’t use it
Is it possible that Sony will add AI stuff to A7S III via future firmware updates? Technically and commercially?
No idea whether it’s technically possible. Even though it’s firmware i suspect the processor in the camera would be a big factor. Even if you technically could, i can’t see them doing it though. They’ll save it for the next model of the S line
The A7V is in the demo phase; it hasn't even received it's first firmware. A7siii, when it first came out, the colors were off and had focus issues. It's like comparing a quarter-mile race between a Honda that's one foot away from the finish line to a Ferrari that has to run the complete quarter mile.
Great analogy 😂😂 but you’re right, and the A7Rv is already impressive, excited to see what Sony do with future firmware. Thanks for watching 👌🏻
Did it get that firmware update? Im bout to buy a new cam confused between these two
Has the A7V had a firmware update yet?
As being into PHOTOGRAPHY i have no interest in Video! I Love This Camera, Switched / From Canon. 👍🏻
Z8 or A7RV which one is better?
No idea, not tried the Z8
@@DannyBligh ok,thank you so much.
Start saving up for the A7S IV... it will eventually come out
When do you think? I think we'll see rumour coming around October and launch maybe March 24. But who knows, Sony seem to release a new camera every lunchtime! haha
@7s iii Perfect in all situation
Great video, you saved me $4k
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Lossless is misleading because there is a reduction in detail in those large, medium and small options.
Certainly a loss of detail in the small and medium options, but that’s down to the overall mp size being decreased when being used
Jiust buy a camera and go shoot rather than teaeing your hair to understand "whixh is better" .Thjs which is better game will go on forever
Absolutely! We can sit and talk specs all day, and if you enjoy that then sure go right ahead. But nobody watches a video and thinks “jheeeez i love that this was filmed in log at 120fps downsampled from an 8k sensor” 😂😂
Aother dumb this vs that 😂 the pro videoman will go with the A7S111, The pro Photographer who wants to do video occasionally will go with the A7R5 !! Their 2 different animals!! One cant be better thanthe other one. It makes more sense comparing the A7r5 to the A1
not dumb at all, this review helped me to understand what do I need and think about what am I going to do more (photo or video), and as a7rv has some features that were not covered in this review, like AI autofocus, I still decided to go with a7rv, though I really like a7siii video capabilities and would like to have all those feature in one camera (and I do understand that it is not possible due to matrix size of a7rv)