solving equations but they get increasingly more impossible?

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We will solve 4 impossible-looking equations, sqrt(x)+sqrt(-x)=2, ln(x)+ln(-x)=0, e^x+e^(-x)=0, and sin(x)+sin(-x)=2. From verifying the domains of the functions to finding real solutions, we go step-by-step through each equation. And just when you think you've got it figured out, we hit you with one more equation that's sure to blow your mind! Get ready to flex your mental muscles and solve some of the trickiest equations out there. #math #equation #blackpenredpen
0:00 sqrt(x)+sqrt(-x)=2
3:27 ln(x)+ln(-x)=0
6:10 e^x+e^(-x)=0
10:29 sin(x)+sin(-x)=2
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  • Putting these no solution questions as a pre-cal bonus question saying "graph the function" would be humorous when the people who don't know what to do leave it blank and then you mark it correct.

    @oreocookiedough@oreocookiedough2 жыл бұрын
    • 😆

      @blackpenredpen@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
    • I would still manage to fail by drawing some bullshit curve 🤣

      @janfilby7086@janfilby70862 жыл бұрын
    • @@janfilby7086 😂😂

      @mathsman5219@mathsman52192 жыл бұрын
    • @@blackpenredpen I got x equals 2 divided by i when I squared it..you didn't mention that? Why not?

      @leif1075@leif10752 жыл бұрын
    • @@leif1075 If you multiply 2/i by i/i, you get -2i. They are equivalent.

      @linuxnoodle8682@linuxnoodle8682 Жыл бұрын
  • The last one has no solution at all because sin(-x) is equal to -sin x so the equation sin x+sin(-x)=2 is the same as saying sin (x)-sin(x)=2 now we can cancle the two sines and we get the equation 0=2 and it has no solution.

    @ecg3703@ecg37032 жыл бұрын
    • thanks, i forgot that sin(-x)=-sin(x) so it seems that sin(x)+sin(-x)=/=2

      @notmuchgd9842@notmuchgd98422 жыл бұрын
    • Exactly what I got! But, in a slightly different way. So, we have sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2 We know that sin(a) + sin(b) = 2sin(a+b/2)cos(a-b/2) So, applying this, we get, 2sin(x-x/2)cos(x+x/2) = 2 2sin(0)cos(x) = 2 0=2 The fact that sin(x) is an odd function struck me much later, and now I feel I wasted time doing all this😂

      @VenkataB123@VenkataB1232 жыл бұрын
    • @@notmuchgd9842 Don't think that's what is intended. Instead, it would still be sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2 (this comes from how we defined the separate functions) but f(x) doesn't have a solution. What you're saying is like saying x^2 =/= -1 just because you can't find a solution in the Real realm. So, maybe the other function has a solution in a set of numbers we haven't discovered yet👀

      @VenkataB123@VenkataB1232 жыл бұрын
    • Is sin(x) odd also in complex field? I always forget XD

      @alexsoft55@alexsoft552 жыл бұрын
    • @@alexsoft55 Pretty sure yes. Sin and tan are odd and cos is even, even in the complex world

      @VenkataB123@VenkataB1232 жыл бұрын
  • Here's an alternate take for the exponential equation. That parabola-like curve is a catenary; and eˣ + e⁻ˣ = 2cosh(x); twice the hyperbolic cosine. But from Euler's formula, (circular) cosine can be written cos(x) = ½(e ͥˣ + e⁻ ͥˣ) = cosh(ix); likewise, because cos and cosh are even functions, cosh(x) = cos(-ix) = cos(ix) So eˣ + e⁻ˣ = 2cosh(x) = 0, means that 2cos(ix) = 0 = 2cos(-ix) But we know where cosine is 0: -ix = (n+½)π ; x = (n+½)iπ And that's another way to solve this one. Fred PS. Great idea, this set of problems!

    @ffggddss@ffggddss Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you!!

      @blackpenredpen@blackpenredpen Жыл бұрын
    • @@blackpenredpen 😇

      @punpun7246@punpun7246 Жыл бұрын
    • Hey Fred, How did you get from squareroot(x) + squareroot(-x) = 2 to e^x + e^-x = 2 ? Thanks!

      @MathCuriousity@MathCuriousity Жыл бұрын
    • Fred one more question: What math topic should i study to be able to make these connections you made between e and cosine and that other one coshine? I want to be able to learn that topic and answer as you did!

      @MathCuriousity@MathCuriousity Жыл бұрын
    • @@MathCuriousity Thanks for the questions. I think I can speak for bprp as well as myself, that it's encouraging to hear from those who are genuinely interested in learning. We must all strive for that! "How did you get from √x + √-x = 2 to eˣ + e⁻ˣ = 2 ?" I didn't. The former was Q#1 in the video; the latter is Q#3, which is why I referred to it as "the exponential equation." "What math topic should I study ... coshine?" -- BTW, it isn't "coshine;" it's cosh, which is short for "hyperbolic cosine." I'm not sure what name that topic might go by today, but in my school days, it would be either Algebra 2, Advanced Algebra, Complex Algebra, or Analysis, the last of which nowadays goes by the name, "pre-calculus."

      @ffggddss@ffggddss Жыл бұрын
  • This is unreal 😂

    @drpeyam@drpeyam2 жыл бұрын
    • Pretty complex too in parts!

      @londospark7813@londospark78132 жыл бұрын
    • Good observation Dr Pun-yam

      @HershO.@HershO.2 жыл бұрын
    • Imagine that.

      @xevira@xevira2 жыл бұрын
    • Should this video be called unreal tournament?

      @mokoufujiwara4209@mokoufujiwara42092 жыл бұрын
  • For #3, it’s interesting that if you substitute e^i(pi) = -1 too soon or too late, you get stuck with a tautology where x = anything.

    @Paul-222@Paul-222 Жыл бұрын
    • For #4, you can analyze the series expansions and see that no integer values of n produce any totals that coincide between the two series. The first series is pi times … -1.5, 0.5, 2.5… and the second series is pi times … -0.5, 1.5, 3.5….

      @Paul-222@Paul-222 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Paul-222 So I solved that using sin(x) = ((e^ix)-(e^-ix))/2i and got 0=4i, then I saw in the other comments that the oddness of sin gives you 0=2 immediately and I felt dumb for overcomplicating so much, but I'm glad to see someone else made it even more complex.

      @farfa2937@farfa2937 Жыл бұрын
  • It looks like sin(x)+sin(-x) = 2 has no solutions since sin(x) is an odd function, even with using Euler's formula it leads to a contradiction of 0=2.

    @maxwellcody6457@maxwellcody64572 жыл бұрын
    • From what I can tell, Euler's formula is just how to separate the even and odd parts of the exponential as two coordinates, just specialized for the imaginary case, even if there are two other cases which are just as interesting. j² = 1: e^jφ = coshφ + jsinhφ (hyperbola) ε² = 0: e^εφ = 1 + εφ (flat line) i² = -1: e^iφ = cosφ + isinφ (circle)

      @angeldude101@angeldude1012 жыл бұрын
    • you just apply sin(-x) = -sin(x) and that's it

      @absence9443@absence9443 Жыл бұрын
    • @@angeldude101 why j as imaginary unit ):

      @tobyayres5901@tobyayres5901 Жыл бұрын
    • @@tobyayres5901 You'll need to more precisely define "imaginary" in that question. I said "j² = +1", which is very much not the imaginary unit you're familiar with. This is a _hyperbolic_ number, not a _complex_ number.

      @angeldude101@angeldude101 Жыл бұрын
    • @@angeldude101 is that hard and when u have to study it -a highschool student

      @thedictator1454@thedictator1454 Жыл бұрын
  • Very interesting video, I wish I had a calc 2 professor like you. I had a hard time passing that course. But I still love math, and I enjoy watching your videos!

    @estebandavidlopezmurillo2420@estebandavidlopezmurillo24202 жыл бұрын
  • This is honestly one of my favorite videos of yours - it’s very clear and concise but still enough content to fill a 10-minute video! All of these sections are different but have the same theme so it still feels like one video - my rating is (pi^2 + 1)/10

    @mrgreenskypiano@mrgreenskypiano2 жыл бұрын
    • On a scale of 1-10 that's a LOW score :(

      @jumpman8282@jumpman82822 жыл бұрын
    • If you divide by 10, then yes

      @ajl4878@ajl48782 жыл бұрын
    • @@ajl4878 Ah, I see it now, it's _out of_ 10 lol

      @jumpman8282@jumpman82822 жыл бұрын
    • @@jumpman8282 yea lol

      @ajl4878@ajl48782 жыл бұрын
    • That's 10.86 out of 10 lol

      @skylardeslypere9909@skylardeslypere99092 жыл бұрын
  • Mathematician: "Infinity is not a number, therefore this equation has no solution" Me, a physicist: "I have no such weakness"

    @TeamBuster@TeamBuster7 ай бұрын
    • Mathematicians sometimes use infinity as a number. But they're careful to specify WHICH infinity they're using and how it plays with the finite numbers.

      @kevinvanhorn2193@kevinvanhorn2193Ай бұрын
  • İ can do that! İn the last question, it have no solution. Because if we try to do that, we get 0=2 and that was an issue.

    @NoPizahere@NoPizahere2 жыл бұрын
  • If you, like me, are bothered by the fact that the process in part 1 doesn't yield both solutions, then read on. The reason is because a number has two square roots, and complex numbers don't have a preferred one of the two like positive real numbers do - you can't just take the "positive" square root because most complex numbers don't have a purely real, positive square root. More specifically, the problem is in the step √[-x] = i√x. Check this out: √[-(-x)] = i√[-x] = i*i*√x = -√x. So √x = -√x, which is absurd. The way to resolve this is that √[-x] may be either i√x or -i√x, depending on which square root of a number is being chosen.

    @justintroyka8855@justintroyka88552 жыл бұрын
    • Please see my solution to the first equation in the comments for clarification on this point.

      @MichaelRothwell1@MichaelRothwell1 Жыл бұрын
  • 2:45 the second solution can also be found by observing that taking out a factor of i and taking out a factor of -i are both equally valid starting points ((-i)^2 = i^2 = -1). So in reality, you needed to take out a factor of +-i rather than just +i

    @zactron1997@zactron1997 Жыл бұрын
  • For the e based expression, I used cosine def in terms of e so we get (e^x + e^-x)/2 = 0 = cos (-ix) Take the inv cos from both sides to get pi/2 = -ix and solve for x to get -i*pi/2

    @akashsriram1434@akashsriram1434 Жыл бұрын
  • Love looking all these. I'm looking these years later but they are so great videos

    @supernakke4858@supernakke48585 ай бұрын
  • the last one has no real nor complex solution, because if we use the complex definition of sinx, we have (e^(ix)-e^(-ix))/2i+(e^(-ix)-e^(ix))/2i = 2, then e^(ix) - e^(-ix) + e^(-ix) - e^(ix) = 4i, which LHS cancels out to 0, we have 0 = 4, no solution

    @logicxd1836@logicxd18362 жыл бұрын
    • Right, only you forgot an i in the definition of sin(x) = (e^ix - e^-ix) /2i

      @meurdesoifphilippe5405@meurdesoifphilippe54052 жыл бұрын
    • @@meurdesoifphilippe5405 *cough cough* no one saw that

      @logicxd1836@logicxd18362 жыл бұрын
    • Or you could use the fact that sin(x) is odd, meaning sin(x) + sin(-x) = 0 for all complex x. No calculation required.

      @skylardeslypere9909@skylardeslypere99092 жыл бұрын
    • @@logicxd1836 See what? ;p

      @danielglazar6811@danielglazar6811 Жыл бұрын
  • The domain remain same as it is an example of the 2 graphs same ranges too. Common domain is: all real numbers. Common range is:[-1,1] But they are just image of one another if rotated across y axis by 180°. This also proves that sin(x) is a odd function.

    @anikbera8675@anikbera86752 жыл бұрын
  • The solution of e^x + e(-x) = 0 is straightforward if thinking the two terms as two vectors in the complex plane, having the same module. For simmetry, their phases should be pi/2 and -pi/2

    @IvoCampi1@IvoCampi12 жыл бұрын
    • .. and so: 1) Re(x)=Re(-x) 2) Im(x)=i*pi*(2n+1/2) 3) Im(-x)=-i*pi*(2m+1/2) Where n and m can be any integer. Since Re(z)=-Re(z) for any complex z, 1) implies Re(x)=0. Since the same goes for the imaginary part of the complex number, i.e Im(-z)=-Im(z), 2) and 3) can be combined to: 4) Im(x)=i*pi*(2n+1/2)=i*pi*(2m+1/2) So n and m needs to be equal, and the final solution is (still): x=0+i(1+4n)pi/2 with n being any integer.

      @Apollorion@Apollorion6 ай бұрын
  • sin(x)+sin(-x)=2 sin(x)-sin(x)=2 0=2. There are no solutions.

    @xavierwainwright8799@xavierwainwright87992 жыл бұрын
    • yop

      @absence9443@absence9443 Жыл бұрын
  • You make me smile with each video. Thank you

    @josephtraverso2700@josephtraverso27002 жыл бұрын
    • Glad to hear. Thank you.

      @blackpenredpen@blackpenredpen2 жыл бұрын
  • I have no idea where to start with the last problem, it's so odd tbh

    @antonyzhilin@antonyzhilin2 жыл бұрын
    • Pun intended?

      @harshvardhanpandey8057@harshvardhanpandey80572 жыл бұрын
    • Yup

      @antonyzhilin@antonyzhilin2 жыл бұрын
  • For the first equation we can square both sides twice to get a quadratic equation when we solve it we'll get ±2i directly

    @prajwalpai7604@prajwalpai76044 күн бұрын
  • 8:45 can you use the Lambert W function if you multiply both sides by x? That yields an extraneous solution x=0 for one of the branches but I was wondering if this method is viable here if you know what you’re doing

    @AntonFediukov@AntonFediukov2 жыл бұрын
    • I was curious about this as well

      @1abyrinth@1abyrinth2 жыл бұрын
    • ok so multiply both sides by x≠0 : xeˣ = -xe⁻ˣ now use the lambert W function : x = -x ⇒ x = 0 but we assumed that x cannot be 0. Hence it’s not a good thing to use here

      @rshawty@rshawty2 жыл бұрын
    • @@rshawty it's fine to use it, just get rid of the x=0 solution because we already clarified that x≠0 for the equation we're trying to solve

      @farklegriffen2624@farklegriffen26242 жыл бұрын
    • @@farklegriffen2624 ok but you can clearly see that’s useless

      @rshawty@rshawty2 жыл бұрын
    • @@rshawty It isn't useless. The Lambert W function does not allow you to conclude that xe^x = -xe^(-x) implies x = -x. It only allows you to conclude that x = W(-xe^(-x)), and you must remember this is multivalued.

      @angelmendez-rivera351@angelmendez-rivera351 Жыл бұрын
  • Hey btw a good idea for a video is the integral from - to + infinity of sechx is π

    @siddhesh_sinha@siddhesh_sinha2 жыл бұрын
  • I love how he was able to cheer me up enough to make me smile in the first 5 minutes

    @tnnm2022@tnnm20222 ай бұрын
  • Great examples!!!

    @roberttelarket4934@roberttelarket4934 Жыл бұрын
  • 7:36 that's a hyperbolic cosine function: 2*cosh(x)

    @d2513850@d25138502 жыл бұрын
    • He said “it’s almost like a cosh function”, but yeah, it actually IS a cosh function

      @YoavZilka@YoavZilka2 жыл бұрын
  • Holding the poceball gives him the ultimate mathematical power

    @justushinkelmann8020@justushinkelmann8020 Жыл бұрын
  • 9:40 I love that so much

    @literallyme.realmp4@literallyme.realmp4 Жыл бұрын
  • e^x + e^-x = 0 "It's almost like cosh" It is exactly 2cosh(x). cos(x) = cosh(ix), and we know plenty of places where cos(x) = 0. sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2 Where cosine is the even part of the exponential, sine is the odd part, so sin(-x) = -sin(x). So sin(x) + sin(-x) = sin(x) - sin(x) = (1-1)sin(x) = 0 ≠ 2 for all x. It isn't just never 2, it's never _not 0._

    @angeldude101@angeldude1012 жыл бұрын
  • The answer you gave ,I understood but x=-2i ,so there must be a conjugate of the complex solution , So it's equtions are: x=2i,x=-2i.

    @anikbera8675@anikbera86752 жыл бұрын
  • If you replace the x by z and assume complex solutions, would z = +/-2i be considered valid? I squared both sides, isolated SQRT(-z²) and squared again to find the two candidates

    @Imran-Shah@Imran-Shah Жыл бұрын
  • I thought I was crazy with the last question! thanks everyone for confirming my suspicions.

    @zacharyrumschlag@zacharyrumschlag Жыл бұрын
  • 7:47 you said it yourself it's literally a cosh function, exactly 2cosh(x) 😆

    @kepler4192@kepler41922 жыл бұрын
  • When I taught algebra in college, I always checked my solutions to make sure they weren't extraneous. I would like to have seen that here, especially on the second equation.

    @JayTemple@JayTemple2 жыл бұрын
    • f(i) = ln(i) + ln(-i) f(i) = iπ/2 - iπ/2 f(i) = 0, therefore i is a solution of f(x) = 0 Since it's symmetrical, -i is a solution too.

      @stratonikisporcia8630@stratonikisporcia8630 Жыл бұрын
  • 8:40 e^x + e^-x = 0 e^x = -e^-x x = ln(-e^-x) x = ln(-1) + ln(e^-x) x = pi*i+2n*pi + -x 2x = pi*i + 2n*pi x = n*pi + pi/2 * i

    @isjosh8064@isjosh80644 ай бұрын
  • Can you write in text what you are saying when you say "if you ever feel the need to graph the __________" (axis meeting point, red dot) around 1:19? I can't make out what you are saying. Thank you so much for great videos!

    @andrewgjkgjk@andrewgjkgjk Жыл бұрын
  • 6:21 6:37 But ♾and -♾ are both numbers! They are also solutions

    @OPNisheeth_Gamer@OPNisheeth_Gamer20 күн бұрын
  • No entiendo nada lo que dice pero sí entiendo todo lo escribe , excelente canal 👌👌 , saludos desde Perú.

    @luiscrispinvargas3061@luiscrispinvargas30612 жыл бұрын
  • Love your videos 🦉

    @EvaFuji@EvaFuji2 жыл бұрын
  • 4:39 How to draw a Cartesian plane properly. Also, how to describe the inside of a black hole. f(x) = ln(x) + ln(-x)

    @EmpyreanLightASMR@EmpyreanLightASMR4 ай бұрын
  • after getting e^2x = -1 I just set x = i(theta) /2 then original function can change to e^i(theta) = -1, theta = pi + 2npi then x = i(pi + 2npi) /2

    @user-lj9mf4gu4n@user-lj9mf4gu4n2 жыл бұрын
  • For the third one we should go for the definition e^ix

    @protoroxsinha2451@protoroxsinha24512 жыл бұрын
    • It's still no sol I think. Correct me if I'm wrong

      @HershO.@HershO.2 жыл бұрын
    • @@HershO. It's the 4th that has no solution, because (hyperbolic) sine is odd no matter what you through at it. You're basically solving sin(x) - sin(x) = 2. The third one is perfectly fine and it's just saying 2cosh(x) = 2cos(ix) = 0.

      @angeldude101@angeldude1012 жыл бұрын
    • @@angeldude101 oh sorry I thought they were talking about the 4th one

      @HershO.@HershO.2 жыл бұрын
  • @7:46 - considering cosh(x) = (e^x + e^(-x))/2, it's exactly like a cosh function.

    @jimschneider799@jimschneider7992 жыл бұрын
    • I suppose he wasn't completely wrong. It's not _exactly_ cosh(x), but rather 2cosh(x).

      @angeldude101@angeldude1012 жыл бұрын
  • Last one is always 0 regardless of x. Sin is an odd function so you can move the - to the outside. The sin(x) terms then cancel, leaving the equation 0=2. Therefore, sin(x)+sin(-x)=2 has no solutions at all.

    @maxvangulik1988@maxvangulik19889 ай бұрын
  • 1:49, that's when you lose the other solution, sqrt(-1) is i OR -i, so you should get two equations

    @en8042@en8042Ай бұрын
    • Exactly. Without that assumption the solution is not complete.

      @allozovsky@allozovskyАй бұрын
  • Can you do a series about problem solving involving exponential growth/decay? Thank you!!! Problem: Rhyz and Zhayn lives in an island-town with population of 2000 people. They came back from vacation to the island but they catch the highly-contagious COVID-19. A week after their return to their town, they infected 6 more people. a. How many will be affected after another week (assuming no health protocols have been practiced.)? Their public health center decides to isolate their town once 30% or more of their people are infected. b. After how many weeks will the public health center isolate the town?

    @chai5466@chai54662 жыл бұрын
  • A neat trick with the last one, if we can argue there is no real component to x, it follows x = i*|x| so this just becomes 2cos(|x|) = 0 ie. |x| = (n+1)*pi/2

    @567secret@567secret Жыл бұрын
  • On the first question how do you know which square root of the complex numbers to take, (which is the principal solution)?

    @jamieashworth_@jamieashworth_2 жыл бұрын
    • Please see my solution to the first equation in the comments for clarification on this point.

      @MichaelRothwell1@MichaelRothwell1 Жыл бұрын
  • Junior Math: 1+1 Highschool Math: ax^3+bx^2+xc+d University Math: I don't know anymore. - Ho Lee Fuk

    @erichsu3325@erichsu3325 Жыл бұрын
  • The last example has actually +- sign because of the symmetry mentioned in the first example

    @eugen3662@eugen36626 ай бұрын
  • sir what is the integration of 1/(sinx+cosx)

    @garimamehta1604@garimamehta16042 жыл бұрын
  • Hey blackpenredpen! I am a huge fan, will do explain this problem for me please? When is the product of X1 and X2 maximum given that the function is f(x)=(X-X1)(X-X2) (derivative is not allowed but I'd like you to do it as if it is at first). I have a divine understanding of parabolas and I only got closer to the answer but never actually got it. I'd appreciate it you would explain that for me, thank you.

    @TheDannyjoblack@TheDannyjoblack2 жыл бұрын
  • Hey, i’m in algebra1 right now and i have been thinking about testing out of some math classes in the future and siblings/friends have told me that pre calc is just algebra2 a bit more advanced trigonometry and a few more concepts? If i end up doing well in algebra 2 and i feel confident with my algebra skills would it be a good idea to test out of pre calc? I have also been wondering if it is a good idea to test out of geometry. I have been studying a lot and I so far have learned about some trig (just basics sin, cos, tan, unit circle etc). I have been averaging roughly 75-90% on some online practice tests. I also plan on going for some sort of stem major at a top school (like Caltech). The careers I have thought about so far are astrophysics, or quantum mechanics. I know that is a long ways a way but I think its kinda fun to think about and I hear about people not knowing what to do when they hit 12th grade so it cant hurt.

    @quiladog9302@quiladog93027 ай бұрын
  • Would you please talk about this topic? As we all know for x approches infinity: (1+1/x)^x=e and (1-1/x)^x=1/e Multiply above equation both side will give us: (1-(1/x)^2)^x=1 ... as if the value of (1/x)^2=0 Can we then define that when x approches infinity (1/x)^2=0?

    @yapsiauwsoengie6507@yapsiauwsoengie65072 жыл бұрын
    • To your last question - yes

      @ivoandricic1088@ivoandricic10882 жыл бұрын
  • im in absolutely no mood for writing down the solution after banging my head on the last problem for an hour, but yeah, so i first did Euler's form, then i didn't simplify the iota terms i.e.- i didn't write e^i³x as e^-ix and proceeded then i wrote the inverses as fractions and took LCM, i substituted e^ix as a, then proceeded, and with some trivial calculations i got my answer as -ln(0)/i i know it was a pretty simple method but I JUST BROKE MATHS !

    @nice_mf_ngl@nice_mf_ngl Жыл бұрын
  • I might be wrong, but I've always thought it wasn't correct to use SQRT and LN with negative numbers, thought there are complet solutions. So is it "correct" to write SQRT(-1)=i and ln(-e)=1+iPi for example? IDK if it's only to avoid confusion, but all math teachers keep using the definition of i as i²=-1, but never SQRT(-1)=i

    @18BaVIII@18BaVIII Жыл бұрын
  • For the first equation, noticing the symmetry is the more elegant way to find the second solution, but you could also just pull a -i out of sqrt(-x), since (-i)^2=-1 as well, and then solve sqrt(x)-i*sqrt(x)=2.

    @mcgrewgs@mcgrewgs2 жыл бұрын
    • Or, if a complex number is a root of a polynomial, then its conjugate is a root too

      @mytic6361@mytic63612 жыл бұрын
  • In the first equation, dont you have to introduce + and - i, when pulling the i^2 from under the root?

    @ano3900@ano39002 жыл бұрын
    • No you do not, for example if you simplify sqrt(8)= sqrt(4)*sqrt(2)= 2sqrt(2) not -2sqrt(2). You consider the + or - signs when your solving for the value of x when taking even numbered roots. Keep in mind the + or - signs come from the absolute value of x. |x|=sqrt(x^2)

      @moeberry8226@moeberry82262 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, you do. That is why blackpenredpen did not get the solution 2i originally--he left out the + or -.

      @rorydaulton6858@rorydaulton68582 жыл бұрын
    • @@moeberry8226 That does not work for complex numbers. There is no obvious preferred principal square root, since there is no positive or negative among complex numbers. The standard for "principal square root" is to take the root with positive real part, and if both roots have zero real part then take the one with positive imaginary part.

      @rorydaulton6858@rorydaulton68582 жыл бұрын
    • @@rorydaulton6858 I understand that I was giving ano a very easy example with respect to the reals. So it can be shown more clearly. But 100 percent your right there is no principle square root that’s preferred when in the complex world. But in this case we are not solving or finding a principle root at the part Ano is talking about. We take sqrt(-1) to be just i and at the end as blackpenredpen showed we have symmetry along with the fact of the conjugate root theorem which states if a+bi is a zero then a-bi is also.

      @moeberry8226@moeberry82262 жыл бұрын
    • @@moeberry8226 couldn't i do the following: sqrt(-1) = sqrt((-1)(-1)(-1)) = sqrt(i*i*(-1)(-1)) = sqrt((-i)(-i)) = sqrt((-i)^2) = -i but since: sqrt(-1) = i I have to consider both +/-?

      @ano3900@ano39002 жыл бұрын
  • Here's another way for number 2, when we get to ln(-x^2) = 0, can't we do ln(-1) + ln(x^2) = 0, and ln(-1) is i*pi because of e^(i*pi) so in other words i*pi + ln(x^2) = 0; ln(x^2) = -i*pi; x^2 = e^(-i*pi) = (e^(i*pi))^(-1) = (-1)^(-1) = 1/(-1) = -1; so therefore x = +-sqrt(-1), aka +-i

    @dwagonyt@dwagonyt8 ай бұрын
  • For the equation e^x = -e^-x could you not just multiply both sides by x giving you xe^x = -xe^-x then take the Lambert W function: W(xe^x) = W(-xe^-x) giving you x = -x therefore x = 0 ?

    @dock_ed5720@dock_ed572011 ай бұрын
  • for the third one, that is e^x + e*(-x) = 0, when we get to the step: 2x = ln(-1), why cant we write it as: 2x = ln(I^2) = 2ln(i), therefore x = ln(i)? (idk that much about logs or calculus or anything of that sort, so if I make a mistake please excuse me)

    @kailashanand5086@kailashanand50862 жыл бұрын
  • Wait for that e^x + e^-x question at the end can't you just leave it as e^iπ and take the ln to get 2x = iπ so x can be iπ/2 cuz i am not sure why you added 2πn, i understand basic calculus so i understand how Euler's number works but that 2πn is it really necessary to add ?

    @Anthony-od2iq@Anthony-od2iq2 ай бұрын
  • Somebody knows where you can buy the framed e from the background?

    @Firedragon9898@Firedragon9898 Жыл бұрын
  • Clever but sort of misdirection on ex.1 converted two separate equations into one simultaneous equation. Different animals 😊

    @bobgold4692@bobgold4692 Жыл бұрын
  • for exp(x)+exp(-x), I would have substituted x = iy and then you have a 2cos(y) which obviously has many zeros.

    @binaryblade2@binaryblade22 жыл бұрын
  • you and rednilebluenile are best two people. both make videos of my fav subject

    @vishftw@vishftw Жыл бұрын
  • sin(x)+sin(-x)=sin(x)-sin(x)=0 so 0=2 simple cheat: e^x+e^-x=0 divide both sides by 2 and know that cos(x)=(e^xi+e^-xi)/2 so cos(x)i=0 i have also made math problem witch i think is hard: proof that: 2ln((2cos(ln(i))+sqrt(2cos(ln(-1))-2))/2)=pi

    @Voxel79@Voxel792 жыл бұрын
  • I was feeling really smug about solving these mentally, but had to break out the whiteboard for the last one. I was getting quite frustrated until I decided to accept what I thought were failures as proof that it's impossible.

    @joemcz2564@joemcz2564 Жыл бұрын
  • Petition to make I dont like to be on the bottom, I like to be on the top merch.

    @miscccc@miscccc2 жыл бұрын
  • At 1:17, what are we going to get? It sounds like "the woodshed" or "the wart's head", I can't tell what word it is. I love that he concludes the entire function is just a point.

    @ejb7969@ejb7969 Жыл бұрын
    • origin

      @MikehMike01@MikehMike0113 күн бұрын
  • What were your subject combination in bachelor

    @siddhantchaudhary5712@siddhantchaudhary57122 жыл бұрын
  • I have the best solution for the third one: e^x + e^-x = e^-i i x + e^i i x = 0 this is already one of eulers identities but ill write it out anyway: cos(-ix) + i sin (-ix) + cos(ix) + i sin(ix) = 2 cos(ix)=0 cos(ix)=0 ix = pi/2 + n pi x=-i (pi/2+n pi)

    @baukenieuwenhuis6470@baukenieuwenhuis64702 жыл бұрын
    • Alternatively, just use cosh identities: e^(x) + e^(-x) = 2cosh(x) = 2cos(ix). But this is a nice way to derive the same thing with more fundamental identities, without needing cosh.

      @nG27227@nG272272 жыл бұрын
    • @@nG27227 I didnt know that identity but pretty interesting :)

      @baukenieuwenhuis6470@baukenieuwenhuis64702 жыл бұрын
  • When you consider the complex definition for sine, sin(x)=[e^(ix)-e^(-ix)]/2i, then it’s clear when you plug in sin(-x) that sin(-x)=-sin(x) ∀x∈ℂ, therefor sin(x)+sin(-x)=0≠2 ∀x∈ℂ

    @andrewkarsten5268@andrewkarsten5268 Жыл бұрын
  • as always GREAT JOB 👏🏻👏🏻

    @procerpat9223@procerpat92232 жыл бұрын
  • On the surface, sin(-x) = -sinx, therefore sinx + sin(-x) = sinx - sinx = 0 therefore sinx + sin(-x) != 2 for all x in R QED But I know nothing about the complex sine function, so I'll leave to the smartheads to figure it out 🤓 If sine retains it's oddness as a complex function, I guess there's no complex solutions either. Edit: Actually, I just checked and the Taylor expansion of the sine function has only odd degree terms, so yeah, it retains it's oddness. So no solutions at all! Postscripty QED.

    @rageprod@rageprod Жыл бұрын
  • Omg I was so laughing after the end. Dude, you are awesome in humour the same in math xd

    @flamewings3224@flamewings32242 жыл бұрын
  • For the first one, I think you forgot to put the absolut value of x, after doing (√x)². From that point, you'd get both 2i and -2i values of x, instead of having to analyze it from its beggining to find the other one.

    @christiangomez6901@christiangomez69015 ай бұрын
  • Wish I was better at math period I find these so interesting even though I really have no idea what is happening. I guess it amazes me how many times the answer is either 0 or 1. Who’d a thunk.

    @umami0247@umami0247 Жыл бұрын
  • Can you make a video using the quartic formula ?? 😬😬😬

    @matte14-70@matte14-702 жыл бұрын
  • Fun fact: There's nothing more impossible than impossible because it's already impossible, and if something was posed as impossible and it was done means it's actually possible

    @codem5285@codem52857 ай бұрын
  • We can use the fact that sine is odd and we have 0=2 so we will get contradiction - no solution in both real and complex

    @holyshit922@holyshit9222 жыл бұрын
  • I encourage you to continue, and I hope you solve it this limite: lim_(x->0) ((x^π - π^x)/(x^e - e^x))^(1/sin(x))

    @isl_milano9488@isl_milano94882 ай бұрын
  • For the last one after writing e^x = -e^-x , multiple by x on both sides and take lambert w on both sides you get x=-x => x = 0 . But 0 isnt the answer so where does this go wrong cuz I feel like the steps seem legit

    @ptubevfx1331@ptubevfx1331 Жыл бұрын
  • For those who wonder why 𝑒^𝑥 = 0 doesn't have any complex solutions: If it did have a complex solution then there would exist two real numbers 𝑎 and 𝑏 such that 𝑒^(𝑎 + 𝑏𝑖) = 0 But 𝑒^(𝑎 + 𝑏𝑖) = 𝑒^𝑎⋅𝑒^(𝑏𝑖) = 𝑒^𝑎(cos(𝑏) + 𝑖 sin(𝑏)), and there is no real value 𝑎 such that 𝑒^𝑎 = 0 and also no real value 𝑏 such that cos(𝑏) = sin(𝑏) = 0

    @jumpman8282@jumpman82822 жыл бұрын
    • If it can be written as an infinite polynomial, wouldn’t we get infinitly many sol. I think i see the falicy in my logic but…

      @schizoframia4874@schizoframia4874 Жыл бұрын
    • @@schizoframia4874 that's an interesting question. Like, what happens to the roots of the taylor polynomial as the number of terms approaches infinity

      @alejrandom6592@alejrandom6592 Жыл бұрын
    • @@alejrandom6592 thanks

      @schizoframia4874@schizoframia4874 Жыл бұрын
    • That eˣ=0 has no solution is equivalent to the well known fact that ln 0 is not defined.

      @MichaelRothwell1@MichaelRothwell1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@schizoframia4874 Calling it an infinite polynomial is inaccurate. KZheadrs often say it is an infinite polynomial for the sake of analogy, but the problem with analogies is that they are imperfect and flawed and not an accurate description of what is happening. They are there to aid your intuition, not to give you an accurate understanding.

      @angelmendez-rivera351@angelmendez-rivera351 Жыл бұрын
  • Using the evenness of the sine function, sin(-x) is the same as -sin(x). The equation sin(x) + sin(-x) = 2 becomes: sin(x) - sin(x) = 2 => 0 = 2 [->

    @twelfthdoc@twelfthdoc Жыл бұрын
  • lets consider the essence of sin(x)=-sin(-x), expand sin x as its taylor series, thus we can see sin(x)=-sin(-x) if (-x)^k=-(x)^k and k is odd. but i think quaterions dont obey rule since they break distributive law. so the answer might be a quaterion

    @user-sg8my2nm3r@user-sg8my2nm3r Жыл бұрын
  • 7:46 In fact, double the cosh function!

    @floppy8568@floppy8568 Жыл бұрын
  • For the first one, sqrt(x) + sqrt(-x) = 2, how can you find 2 with the solutions? Like, if you take 2i, you get: sqrt(2i) + sqrt(-2i) sqrt(2i) + i×sqrt(2i) (1+i) × sqrt(2i) And then I'm stuck, and the same with -2i. How do I get 2 from that?

    @alexandreman8601@alexandreman8601 Жыл бұрын
    • sqrt(2i) is either 1+i or -1-i since (1+i)^2 =1^2+2i+i^2 =2i while sqrt(-2i) is either 1-i or -1+i If you define sqrt(2i)=1+i and sqrt(-2i)=1-i the equation works but I think those different square roots can cause problems in other equations.

      @dieschachbrettfee2060@dieschachbrettfee2060 Жыл бұрын
  • i immediately noticed e^x + e^(-x) is just 2cosh(x)

    @toirmusic@toirmusic2 жыл бұрын
  • for all inputs, real and complex, sin(z) = -sin(-z) sin(z) + sin(-z) = 0 identically for all complex inputs. Hence the last equation has no solution at all over the reals or the complex numbers

    @asparkdeity8717@asparkdeity8717 Жыл бұрын
    • I understand why there are no reals, as x can never equal -x logic. But why is there no complex?

      @MathCuriousity@MathCuriousity Жыл бұрын
    • @@MathCuriousity the reason is, sin(z) is entirely analytic over the complex plane, hence we don’t need to deal with any problems such as branches - and hence still maintains the odd property (u can even see this using a Taylor Expansion in z, which has infinite radius of convergence) for all z in the complex plane. Hence for the exactly the same reason as no real solutions x, there are no complex solutions z either

      @asparkdeity8717@asparkdeity8717 Жыл бұрын
  • The last could have a hyperbolic solution, not complex. Probably 🤔

    @IAmManWithTheGun@IAmManWithTheGun7 ай бұрын
    • Well at least it had no real or complex solution

      @stratonikisporcia8630@stratonikisporcia86307 ай бұрын
  • Answers (in Cartesian form): 1. x = -2i, x = 2i 2. x = -i, x = i 3. x = 1/2 i (2 π n + π), n element Z 4. False

    @thescratchguy428@thescratchguy428 Жыл бұрын
  • Square root of X raised to the power of 2 is module of X so that's why you get ±2i.

    @steluhututui5502@steluhututui5502 Жыл бұрын
  • Without watching, I see that it is c(1+i)=2, where c=√2. So the left equation is a line through 1+i from the origin. A 45 degree line in the 1st and 3rd quadrant of a graph. The line obviously goes through y=2 at x=2. So the point at which the equation equals two will occur at √2+√2i. I was so wrong. I was taking the absolute value of the left side. Ignore my ideas, the video is good.

    @alikaperdue@alikaperdue10 ай бұрын
  • Can anyone explain why in the first equation (√x + √-x = 2) the process didn't yield also the 2i result? It's fine saying the function is symmetrical, so we need to add it, but shouldn't the methodical way produce both results?

    @dekeltal@dekeltal7 ай бұрын
    • it's because you can't turn √-x into i√x if x is negative, (2i is negative, -2i is not) therefore the only answer that you can get is -2i

      @maddenbanh8033@maddenbanh80332 ай бұрын
  • can someone further explain the rationale at 3:05? is the reason for the equation's symmetry simply the fact that 'x' and '-x' are inputs? thanks.

    @jshook@jshook2 жыл бұрын
    • f(x) and f(-x) will always be mirrors of each other no matter what f is, so you're just adding a function to its own mirror image. This is in fact one way that you can define cos(h)(x). Subtracting a function's mirror image will instead give a function with rotational symmetry. Whereas before we had cos(h)(x), this time it's sin(h)(x). Put the two back together and you can recover the original function: cosh(x) + sinh(x) = e^x.

      @angeldude101@angeldude1012 жыл бұрын
    • @@angeldude101 amazing explanation!

      @minecrafting_il@minecrafting_il2 жыл бұрын
  • I know how to find the complex solutions. But what confuses/fascinates me is, what's the point of those solutions?

    @kenhuang2486@kenhuang24862 жыл бұрын
  • if x is naiural,this function will always be equal to y+yi because y=√x and yi=√-x

    @VladVideos0@VladVideos06 ай бұрын
  • "if you ever feel like the need to graph the origin, go ahead and just use this function"

    @masterleon40@masterleon4011 күн бұрын
  • @blackpenredpen For the first equation though if u straight away put values u would get i=1 or i=-1🤣🤣🤣🤣. The only way u get lhs =rhs is if u take root(-1)=-i.Try it🙂. It is one of the few problems where the negative root I.e if x2=n then x =+-root(n); -root(n) is the useful part.

    @akshajvishwanathan7064@akshajvishwanathan7064 Жыл бұрын
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