Sir Antony Beevor on Russia, writing history and why he hates (most) war movies | The InnerView

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Sir Antony Beevor, author of bestsellers such as Stalingrad and The Second World War joins Imran Garda to talk about his latest book, Russia: Revolution and Civil War, 1917-1921 to explain why those events more than one hundred years ago echo with relevance in today’s turbulent times.
The two sat down at Minoa Pera bookstore in Istanbul to discuss the personalities of Tsar Nicholas II and Lenin and weigh up whether history is created by great men or great circumstances. The great historian also explains why no amount of soul-stirring storytelling can alter his disdain for Hollywood-produced historical movies that play fast and loose with the facts.
00:00 Knight who writes about tsars, revolutionaries, and dictators
01:10 What is the great challenge for historians today?
02:42 “No nation has a DNA”
03:41 Putin’s interview with Tucker Carlson - Russia vs. the West
07:12 “Pregnant widow”
09:44 Historic leaders and their role in shaping the future
11:01 Lenin and Tsar Nicholas II
12:15 Is democracy a strength or a weakness in 2024?
13:28 Beevor’s work digging into the archives
15:00 20th century
16:05 What are the fundamental drivers of history?
18:02 Beevor criticizes war movies
21:55 What is Beevor’s biggest fear about the future?
23:22 Can democracies be trusted?
24:02 History books and their relevance
25:26 Beevor’s new projects
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  • Sir Beevor's Stalingrad is a masterpiece

    @tonybennett3904@tonybennett390410 күн бұрын
    • I bought that book and was going to read it, but in this interview, Beevor reveals himself to be an ordinary NATO propagandist, so I've thrown his book in the bin.

      @Eelis0@Eelis08 күн бұрын
    • The very fact that he has that knowledge makes his disgraceful bigoted contempt toward Russia and conformity to UK and US lies even more obscene.

      @honesty_-no9he@honesty_-no9he5 күн бұрын
    • Limited by his western education however.

      @kom17@kom175 күн бұрын
    • It's cheap,emotional garbage.

      @Panos-xo9rc@Panos-xo9rc4 күн бұрын
    • @@kom17 that's a very mild assesment if you ask me.

      @Panos-xo9rc@Panos-xo9rc4 күн бұрын
  • Great Sir author, greetings from Poland with respect

    @smugas@smugas49 минут бұрын
  • Great interview and great interviewer 🙏

    @Protocallireland@Protocallireland13 күн бұрын
    • I utter&complete-ly disagree! :_[ hYlkeW

      @hylkewesterhuis9667@hylkewesterhuis96674 күн бұрын
  • What an enjoyable and thought provoking interview between the interviewee Sir Anthony Beevor and the gentleman performing the interview. I felt the questions were well thought out and that he had done his homework.

    @simondavies6270@simondavies627011 күн бұрын
  • GREAT INTERVIEWEE AND GREAT INTERVIEWER. ONE OF THE BEST INTERVIEWS I HAVE EVER SEEN. ONE OF THE VERY FEW ON TRP.

    @murrayeldred3563@murrayeldred356312 күн бұрын
    • I utter&complete-ly disagree! :_[ hYlkeW

      @hylkewesterhuis9667@hylkewesterhuis96674 күн бұрын
  • This is a very good interview with very good questions.

    @adam944@adam9446 күн бұрын
    • I utter&complete-ly disagree! :_[ hYlkeW

      @hylkewesterhuis9667@hylkewesterhuis96674 күн бұрын
  • Absolutely fascinating. Must read some of his books now!

    @aviemore393@aviemore3933 күн бұрын
  • Wonderful interview. My take on movies about historical events is, yes, you should not use a movie as a history lesson, but it can be a gateway drug into reading about what really happened. As a teen, late at night, i saw the movie Mister Roberts, still one if my favorites. That inspired me to go down into the basement and start to read my father's books about the Pacific war. Now I have a tendency to bore people when I talk about these subjects. Or maybe I'm just boring, oh well.

    @slimeydon@slimeydon10 күн бұрын
    • When you are not swimming in kool aid you are automatically boring. Wear it as a medal.

      @philipwittamore@philipwittamore6 күн бұрын
    • It is the people who are clueless about the world we live in who are boring. And you know what?Most of them WANT to be clueless. The want to know NOTHING other than what they are being told.

      @Panos-xo9rc@Panos-xo9rc4 күн бұрын
    • " Peoples history of US " by Howard Zinn Did you ever read this book? Just curiosity pressed me to ask this Question ❓

      @jayanthanps9501@jayanthanps9501Күн бұрын
  • Lincoln was also a racist, but he freed the slaves. So, as we study history, these are the contradictions that we encounter.

    @peterfreiling6963@peterfreiling69636 күн бұрын
    • Please recheck it. Did Howard Zinn slightly oppose your view? Lincoln was under tremendous pressure no to

      @jayanthanps9501@jayanthanps9501Күн бұрын
  • Goodness! Nice to see how Beevor thinks about east and west. A bit disheartening, but it is what it is.

    @elmersbalm5219@elmersbalm521910 күн бұрын
  • Speaking of maudlin movies,I wonder what he thinks of Vilsmaier's "Stalingrad" ?

    @davidpowell3347@davidpowell3347Күн бұрын
  • A fascinating interview with some unexpected curveball questions.

    @artmcteagle@artmcteagle4 күн бұрын
  • "Why cant Russia become a proper democracy?" The question seems to suppose the West somehow functions as an authentic democracy-

    @stevehurrell651@stevehurrell6517 күн бұрын
    • Of course it is not perfect - but alternatives seem much worse.

      @colincampbell4261@colincampbell42616 күн бұрын
    • @@colincampbell4261 The west´s "democracy" looks functional because the dice are loaded in our favour: USA hegemony; NATO belligerence; a strangle hold on oil and banking. It all looks a bit fragile these days. USA democracy is dysfunctional- there is no social mobility- if you´re poor, you´ll die poor.

      @stevehurrell651@stevehurrell6516 күн бұрын
    • No, it does not. There is no such thing as a authentic democracy. Democracies are self perfecting entities but flawed nonetheless. However, any ultra woke democracy with 123 genders and 7000 races is still miles and miles and miles better than Dictatorships such as Putinistan or Xinesia. Name one dictatorship that works better than our flawed western nations. I am eager to learn.

      @rg-cc5kg@rg-cc5kg6 күн бұрын
    • Democracy isn’t perfect, but Ruzzian kleptocracy is hell.

      @anthonyhulse1248@anthonyhulse12485 күн бұрын
    • It doesn't seems. It does.

      @Panos-xo9rc@Panos-xo9rc4 күн бұрын
  • What country is a perfect democracy?

    @IliyaOsnovikov@IliyaOsnovikov9 күн бұрын
    • ‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’ Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947

      @artmcteagle@artmcteagle4 күн бұрын
    • @@artmcteagle I know that. There are many supposedly democratic countries. Which one of them can be used as a model?

      @IliyaOsnovikov@IliyaOsnovikov4 күн бұрын
  • Beevor needs to have a much tougher interview than this. The interviewer was poor.

    @matthewhampson1530@matthewhampson15304 күн бұрын
  • 23:41 The inability to self reflect is quite astonishing.

    @kom17@kom175 күн бұрын
    • brits be brits...

      @user-cy1bb6dw2z@user-cy1bb6dw2z4 күн бұрын
  • Sir Antony Beevor is one of my favourite historians, together with Stephen Kotkin.

    @theH0UNDSofD00M@theH0UNDSofD00M11 күн бұрын
    • Beevor knows his demographic very well. If you want to make money in the bookselling field, it's America America America and it's a very fickle market so you never criticise your market in any meaningful way. You pander the Americans and become rich. The other fellow you like. well like all Eastern Europeans he carries baggage a lot of baggage as to percieved crimes agaist his grand parents. Both these authors are biased but for different reasons. Beevor for money...Kotkin for hate and revenge...i think !

      @samsungtap4183@samsungtap418310 күн бұрын
    • I utter&complete-ly disagree! :_[ hYlkeW

      @hylkewesterhuis9667@hylkewesterhuis96674 күн бұрын
  • I would like to read a book about the real experiences of the Russian people after the collapse of the Soviet Union. On a different note, I strongly disagree with the author that it's unlikely there will be another "great man" in the West. The danger is visible for those who can see it. This issue is discussed around 11:00

    @azulceleste2646@azulceleste26469 күн бұрын
    • Try "The invention of Russia" by Arkady Ostrovsky. Not so much about experiences, but a well done popular history of Russia after 1989

      @thomasaminer@thomasaminerКүн бұрын
  • Putin's three year old brother died of hunger in Stalingrad. Why is this fact not mentioned more? Would give good insight into his loathing of Western invaders. I also think all this emphasis on styles of Governments is somewhat abstract. The streets of Moscow and Beijing are safer than London and New York. Is that not a bottom line for people. Look at the choice facing the US now? I would rather have a good leader than a choice between Trump and Biden.

    @mjrooney710@mjrooney7102 күн бұрын
  • ‘Globalisation’ is not an event - it is a cynical programme. 6:44

    @markhughes7927@markhughes79276 күн бұрын
  • David irving?where is he?

    @nunosilva7505@nunosilva750511 күн бұрын
    • Persecuted for telling the truth

      @cyberhermit1222@cyberhermit122211 күн бұрын
    • @@cyberhermit1222 Bollocks. He's been thoroughly discredited for telling lies. A judge branded him an anti-semite, a racist and a bigot, which he is. Remember that he lost his own court case against Deborah Lipstadt - idiot.

      @glasgowgrad6277@glasgowgrad627710 күн бұрын
    • ​@@cyberhermit1222in a very special chamber.

      @colincampbell4261@colincampbell42616 күн бұрын
  • Doing fine untill you mentioned BowTieMan. He doesn't rate near someone like this .......... ( Fell off cliff )

    @brezlin-hamill@brezlin-hamill7 күн бұрын
  • I've noticed that people who declined a knighthood constitute a *far* more interesting group than the narcissists who relish honors.

    @Eelis0@Eelis08 күн бұрын
    • Nah. It would be healthy if we brought back all the customs from 100 or more years ago.

      @armingleiner5292@armingleiner52926 күн бұрын
    • You’ve noticed? OK list your top 100 people who have declined a knighthood.

      @anthonyhulse1248@anthonyhulse12485 күн бұрын
  • A bizarre take Putin taking about one Russia - is that strange as a president of one country? Doesn't all presidents talk to the citizens as being one people? Is the US any different?

    @perlefisker@perlefisker10 күн бұрын
    • Yes. USA hasn't tried to invade Canada since the War of 1812.

      @Elitist20@Elitist206 күн бұрын
    • Not bizzare at all if you consider the calls about dismemberment of RF.

      @Panos-xo9rc@Panos-xo9rc4 күн бұрын
    • correct...otherwise they will get trown out of office for not properly following the protocols of their constitution

      @user-cy1bb6dw2z@user-cy1bb6dw2z4 күн бұрын
  • Speaking as both a historian and as a Marxist, I can say that Beevor's books still hold up pretty well. Kudos to him on his whole body of work!

    @joeyj6808@joeyj68086 күн бұрын
    • You can’t be a Marxist and a historian. The two are not compatible.

      @anthonyhulse1248@anthonyhulse12485 күн бұрын
    • Beevor's work is pulp "history" with HEAVY antirussian and ,since you say you are a marxist,anticommunist bias. Stalingrad was below subpar,Berlin was complete trash. The guy is a joke,he was writing spy novels before relabeling himself as a WW2 guru...

      @Panos-xo9rc@Panos-xo9rc4 күн бұрын
    • if you say so 🤡

      @user-cy1bb6dw2z@user-cy1bb6dw2z4 күн бұрын
    • @@anthonyhulse1248 pathetic argumentation funny man

      @user-cy1bb6dw2z@user-cy1bb6dw2z4 күн бұрын
  • Is that noise in the background a smoke detector? So annoying

    @apocbible@apocbible5 күн бұрын
  • It's an interesting but quite disingenuous interview with Sir Anthony Beever, I think. I see that Western self-consciousness is very flattered by the idea of its own superiority and, accordingly, the idea of the confrontation between Western democracies and all kinds of autocracies. But, in fact, this is a very superficial view of things. Using this dichotomy, it is easy to manipulate Western society, including on the issue of war and peace. This is what we are seeing now in connection with the confrontation with Russia.

    @alexandersedov9896@alexandersedov98965 күн бұрын
    • the soothing sounds of aggrandising self flatulation..no one better then british intellectuals

      @user-cy1bb6dw2z@user-cy1bb6dw2z4 күн бұрын
  • “The west hopes all people’s will see the merits of parliamentary democracy “ … 😂😂😂

    @panzervalkyrie9299@panzervalkyrie929910 күн бұрын
    • Because it’s 110% better than the alternative. On the other hand: may you have the joy of living in a putinesque kleptocracy in your own country. 🙏

      @anthonyhulse1248@anthonyhulse12485 күн бұрын
  • Why Russia should become a demo For? Did democracy is ultimate ideas for the world?

    @donzell1945@donzell19459 күн бұрын
    • In a nutshell, yes. Democracy is the best choice under a number of bad chances. It is a small jackpot but still the jackpot. Not a palace but a modest home.

      @rg-cc5kg@rg-cc5kg6 күн бұрын
    • @@rg-cc5kg When I hear a gentleman declare that Great Britain is a democracy, I always want to ask him how many times have the British people elected their head of state? The latest leapfrog with British prime ministers clearly showed how little part British voters had in this. It's strange that British politicians continue to teach democracy to the rest of the world.

      @alexandersedov9896@alexandersedov98965 күн бұрын
  • Beevor,Applebaum etc were on a mission when they were publishing tneir works. I suspected this back then,it has been confirmed after 2014. There is nothing else to be told.

    @Panos-xo9rc@Panos-xo9rc4 күн бұрын
  • Overrated author, average interview

    @DeltaStar777@DeltaStar77710 күн бұрын
    • Fake account.

      @anthonyhulse1248@anthonyhulse12485 күн бұрын
  • Sorry, too much fawning, too much name-dropping.

    @bobjohnbowles@bobjohnbowles9 күн бұрын
    • It's British. 😂

      @redtobertshateshandles@redtobertshateshandles8 күн бұрын
    • @@redtobertshateshandles This is a Turkish channel. Go figure.

      @bobjohnbowles@bobjohnbowles8 күн бұрын
  • Braveheart, very entertaining but not based on fact.

    @danmeehan1390@danmeehan13906 күн бұрын
    • Could you recommend a biography of Putin?

      @anthonyhulse1248@anthonyhulse12485 күн бұрын
  • World Asthma Day is observed every year on the first Tuesday of May to spread awareness and care about asthma in the world. An annual event is organised by the Global Initiative for Asthma.

    @santhoshnanjundarao2887@santhoshnanjundarao288712 күн бұрын
  • It is painful to listen somebody who is so knowledgeable but willfully ignorant. Mt Beevor doesn't understand and is disconnected from the present reality

    @zikfocus@zikfocus11 күн бұрын
    • You confuse putin’s ambitions with reality.

      @anthonyhulse1248@anthonyhulse12485 күн бұрын
  • Wow, Russian bots out in force in the comments.

    @Elitist20@Elitist206 күн бұрын
    • Define ' bots'?

      @felipe-vibor@felipe-vibor6 күн бұрын
    • @@felipe-viborshills for putin, apologists for ruzzian war crimes.

      @anthonyhulse1248@anthonyhulse12485 күн бұрын
    • @@felipe-vibor Google it.

      @Elitist20@Elitist204 күн бұрын
    • Beevor was the ultimate WasteBot,before it was cool.

      @Panos-xo9rc@Panos-xo9rc4 күн бұрын
    • thanks for the compliment,i feel warm and fuzzy

      @user-cy1bb6dw2z@user-cy1bb6dw2z4 күн бұрын
  • انَا اختكمَ مَن اليمَن وّالَلَه ماتكلمتَ الَا من جوّع وًّمَنَ ضَيَقَ الَحَالَ انَا وًّامَيَ وًّاخَوًّتَيَ تَشَرَدَنَا مَنَ بَيَوًّتَنَا بَسَبَبَ الَحَرَبَ نَحَنَ فَيَ حَالَهَ لَايَعَلَمَ بَهَا الَا الَلَهَ حَسَبَنَا الَلَهَ وًّنَعَمَ الَوكيَلَ فَيَ مَنَ اوًّصَلَنَا الَى هَاذا الَحَالَ 💔💔وًّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ مَا كتَبَتَ هَذا الَمَنَاشَدَهَ غَيَرَ مَنَ الَضَيَقَ وّالَفَقَر يَاعَالَمَ حَسَوّا فَيَنَا ارَجَوّكمَ وّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ رَبَ الَعَرَشَ الَعَظَيَمَ انَه الَاكلَ مَا فَيَ عَنَدَيَ بَالَبَيَتَ وًّالَلَهَ يَا اخَوّانَيَ انَهَ اخَوًّنَيَ بَقَعَدَوًّ بَالَيَوًّمَيَنَ مَافَى اكلَ وًّالَلَهَ وًّضَعَنَا كثَيَرَ صَعَبَ نَحَنَ 4 نَفَرَ دَاخَلَ الَبَيَتَ وًّابَيَ مَتَوًّفَيَ وًّلَا يَوًّجَدَ مَنَ يَعَوًّلَ عَلَيَنَا وًّسَاكنَيَنَ فَيَ بَيَتَ اجَارَ لَانَسَتَطَيَعَ دَفَعَ الَاجَارَ الَلَيَ بَاقَيَ عَلَيَنَا ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' اخي اول كلامي انا اقسم بالله على كتاب الله اني لااكذب عليك ولا انصب ولا احتال اني بنت يمنيه نازحين من الحرب انا واسرتي بيننا ایت الشهرب 20 الف يمني والان علينا 60 الف حق 3 شهور وصاحب البيت من الناس الي ماترحم والله يا اخي انه يجي كل يوم يبهدلنا ويتكلم علينا ويريد من البيت للشارع لانناماقدرنا ندفعله الأجار شافونا الجيران نبكي ورجعو تكلمو الجيران ومهلنالاخره الأسبوع معادفعنا له حلف يمين بالله هذا بيخرجنا إلى الشارع رحمه واحنا. بلادنا بسبب هذا الحرب ولانجد قوت يومنا وعايشين اناوامي واخوتي سفار والدنا متوفي الله يرحمه ومامعنا أحد في هذا الدنيا جاانبنا في هذه الظروف القاسيه اخوتي الصغار خرجو للشارع وشافو الجيران ياكلو واوقفو عند بابهم لجل يعطوهم ولو كسره خبز والله الذي له ملك السموات والارض انهم غلفو الباب وطردوهم ورجعو یبکو ایموتو من الجوع ما احد رحمهم وعطلة ردها لقمت عیش والان لوما احدنا ساعدنا في إيكيلو دقيق اقسم بالله انموت من الجوع فيا اخي انا دخيله على الله ثم عليك واريد منك المساعده لوجه الله انشدك بالله تحب الخير واتساعدني ولو ب 500 ريال يمني مع تراسلي واتساب على هذا الرقم00967717354582 وتطلب اسم بطاقتي وترسلي ولاتتاخر وايعوضك الله بكل خير اخواني سغار شوف كيف حالتهم وساعدنا وأنقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع تتبهدل أو نموت من الجوع وانا واسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعد لاتتاخر علينا وجزاك الله خيرا^:":*"':";/;"'😢'💔💔😭😥}{÷|=¢=¢_🩷$%$$)"!;)()-)()♦️➖♾️)()(}. .🎉🎉😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

    @Noura-ol5vy@Noura-ol5vy13 күн бұрын
  • ZV🇷🇺

    @SaddamHussein-dq9bf@SaddamHussein-dq9bf13 күн бұрын
    • 🇷🇺💤🌻🌻🌻

      @anthonyhulse1248@anthonyhulse12485 күн бұрын
  • It always strikes me how much ideological agenda permeates actually British political and historical talk! All those ceaseless references to "democracy vs totalitarism" have as much in common with reality as communist "conflict of classes"! This is particularly ironic, having in mind how the British dealt not only with other nations like the "pesky" Irish but also their own indigenous population throughout history -- were they really any "milder and gentler" than Russians? Antony Beevor is considered by serious Russian historians to be a populist writer not because he has something against Russia but precisely because his ideological standpoint consistently prevails over history in his works. Just watching this interview, one can see how tendentious and unhistorical are the views of this guy which can produce only awful results in the study of history. After all, it is supremely ironic that a person from the Kingdom talks with a person from the country with as a sketchy history of "democracy" as Russia ruled by another "dictator," Erdogan, about how bad Putin is and how undemocratic Russia is. Mind you, to an interviewer from another country, Anthony would mention how bad Turkey is with the same typical English swagger and nonchalance.

    @DuStKalle@DuStKalle11 күн бұрын
    • @therageandthepride@therageandthepride10 күн бұрын
    • In what way are Beevor's views "unhistorical". How do you know what his views are?

      @BrianOh-uc3gm@BrianOh-uc3gm8 күн бұрын
    • Clearly he's annoying all the right people. 😆

      @Elitist20@Elitist206 күн бұрын
    • Clearly you engage in whataboutery to avoid discussion of RuZZia’s current genocidal war in Ukraine 🇺🇦 and its hegemonic ambitions from Pacific, to Atlantic to the Arctic. Shame

      @anthonyhulse1248@anthonyhulse12485 күн бұрын
    • @@BrianOh-uc3gm I can answer that- as a history scholar, I read all of his books, and find them firmly embedded in fiction and propaganda, rather than fact. Whatever little factual presence there is in his books gets twisted to fit the narrative that Beavor trying to peddle in his populist writing.

      @user-nb6uk9vl1b@user-nb6uk9vl1b4 күн бұрын
  • NATO get out of Ukraine

    @panzervalkyrie9299@panzervalkyrie929910 күн бұрын
    • If ever NATO goes to Ukraine, you'll know.

      @philipwittamore@philipwittamore6 күн бұрын
  • when "one" can only use the word "one's" rather than my.... and thinks all historians are males... he looks like a dinosaur to me. Sort of appropriate for a historian, really.

    @annpeerkat2020@annpeerkat20207 күн бұрын
  • Free Palestine😢

    @Noura-ol5vy@Noura-ol5vy13 күн бұрын
    • Is in progress, patience

      @LDN76@LDN7613 күн бұрын
    • Stupidity does not hurt

      @user-yi3nj9yr9e@user-yi3nj9yr9e8 күн бұрын
  • Beevor is to history what Kentucky Fried Chicken is to Chicken…. entry level history… or British Propaganda..

    @mirkovic@mirkovic4 күн бұрын
    • british literature is a form of softpower to suport the narative of the empire

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