The dark side of the web -- exploring darknets | Kyle Terry | TEDxSalem

2014 ж. 16 Қар.
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This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences. The internet is a powerful tool with many layers. Kyle Terry shares his exploration of one of the deepest layers: the darknet.
Kyle Terry was destined to become a computer historian. Having worked as a systems administrator, software engineer, and senior devops engineer, he's explored many aspects of computing and is qualified to speak on a broad range of topics. See his history of the internet presentation here: kyleterry.com/tedxsalem.html
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  • Quick bit of advice, put the play speed at 1.25. It's soooooo much better.

    @IronDruids@IronDruids7 жыл бұрын
    • Felt like the talk was a bit too slow but man this is a huge improvement

      @cupofmozzarella@cupofmozzarella7 жыл бұрын
    • Not all heroes wear capes!

      @JacKayKayKay07@JacKayKayKay076 жыл бұрын
    • the sign language translator is going off!

      @APSuave@APSuave6 жыл бұрын
    • no play it at 1.5.

      @subblonde3101@subblonde31016 жыл бұрын
    • AP Suave 1 month ago, "the sign language translator is going off!" and is standing IN THE DARK, but maybe he's blind and can't tell!!!

      @junkmail4613@junkmail46136 жыл бұрын
  • i think i'll stick to the high risk world of watching curb your enthusiasm on project free tv

    @dandrechesterfield5411@dandrechesterfield54118 жыл бұрын
    • +D'andre Chesterfield A lot of people visit these sites out of curiosity, nothing wrong with that, many people do not know that their activities are stored and can actually be tracked later, and hence they "research" on these sites for information and risk assessment: Ofc what they want to hear is, Tor / Tails etc. is 100% anonymous and I can look at whatever on the dark web. Reality, however is different, and I believe they deserve this information, so they can make up with themselves, if this is actually worth the risk for them. Knowledge is power, use this to your advantage. Stay safe guys

      @NYorkin@NYorkin8 жыл бұрын
    • +D'andre Chesterfield You silence is more deadly than your words

      @paulwangler@paulwangler8 жыл бұрын
    • +Paul James that is a good quote...

      @seanld444@seanld4448 жыл бұрын
    • D'andre Chesterfield has

      @petermuller4606@petermuller46064 жыл бұрын
  • I'm more confused then I was before I watched this!

    @pineandprairielife@pineandprairielife8 жыл бұрын
    • +buckmaster1969 becaues.hes.not.a.lecturer.hes.an.understander.and.y.u.think.tey.dont.give.free.money

      @streameant@streameant8 жыл бұрын
    • why.do.you.need.a.period.between.every.word

      @user-ly9iv2to9t@user-ly9iv2to9t7 жыл бұрын
    • 최영재 maybe.his.spacebar.is.broken.

      @Cristian-vl8pg@Cristian-vl8pg7 жыл бұрын
    • than*

      @Mr6Sinner@Mr6Sinner7 жыл бұрын
    • buckmaster1969, You're a better man than I, as I wanted to say the same thing, but, was going to watch this again before parading my ignorance, just what the hell is this guy talking about? I feel so ignorant.

      @joelee5875@joelee58757 жыл бұрын
  • "I don't want to feel like I've done something wrong doing research". "...or judged in general while I'm on the internet." Great quotes to keep in mind.

    @Gradhmhor27@Gradhmhor278 жыл бұрын
  • Great talk, thanks Kyle for sharing this with us!

    @immersiv-s0156@immersiv-s01569 жыл бұрын
  • "Privacy is not about hiding something, its about preserving something".

    @victorpopov3809@victorpopov38094 жыл бұрын
    • You have nothing to hide, but everything to protect

      @12gaugenick46@12gaugenick464 жыл бұрын
  • I almost cried ... that is a peace of history . Thank you so much K !

    @Zirkata@Zirkata7 жыл бұрын
  • the nsa makes me feel less lonely when I'm on youtube on a friday night

    @tolemus47@tolemus477 жыл бұрын
    • :D!!!

      @Driesione@Driesione3 жыл бұрын
  • I am so happy to C young people fighting for privacy. I am old schools and I am a privacy advocate. I had some one say to me "you have to understand young people have little need for privacy because they give it all away on facebook,twitter,youtube,ETC.." .When I digested what he said he was spot on. I responded with "I see nothing bad or wrong with young people giving their privacy away on facebook,twitter,youtube ETC as long as it is by choice". What I want so bad for the young generation to know is that your choice is going away and once it is gone they will take your internet away..The battle for privacy online has nothing to do with fighting child porn or terrorist and everything to do with the social power and information that is at every ones fingertips who has internet access.Control of this power is what they want.The first steps in taking control is to take your privacy.

    @timlaw9250@timlaw92507 жыл бұрын
    • Tim Law lol, they're not going to take the internet away. Iran tried to do that and Anonymous was immediatly there and helped them getting back online. In case you dont know, then Anonymous are not bad guys. They're the sole reason as to why no one can remove the privacy and free internet of the people. There will always be a way. Governments and multinational corporations are welcome to do all they can to control peoples lives. They will just be asking for more shit, cause people will always find a way. Btw, your privacy online is only gone as long as you agree to it being gone. Once you deactivate your social media accounts, then everything there will be disconnected from your private life, aka they are not allowed to survey anymore. Then there are the programs that places your IP in another country and turning off location and flashplayers, Java and such. And if one is really into code, then there's always the option of programming your way back to online privacy 😊

      @skbartistry2473@skbartistry24737 жыл бұрын
    • Tim Law And once they have their privacy and a currency the governments cant control, then they will be people the governments cant control, then they will have a world the governments cant control, policed by those who stand for justice, fought for not by the honeyed words of politicians, but by the people who would stand for what is right and led by those that are not woven into lies, but by the ones who would lead for the people. We will have a world that is for once truly of the people! by the people! and for the people! Or, who knows, maybe the racists, greedy, bigots and criminals will kill and loot everything and we will all be fucked.

      @pietandersen6120@pietandersen61207 жыл бұрын
    • you guys are close but what they are doing as i am seeing now is trying to make everyone get along and be multicultural..when that fails because it will forsure.. then they will take away guns rights and speech rights which is already happening...they dont care about the internet...when everyone is on welfare its easy to keep the rats in the cage when they are pre occupied by there love for the world wide web...

      @bishop198666@bishop1986666 жыл бұрын
    • Tim Law I don't think most kids even know that they are making that choice by going on those websites. Eventually those websites won't ask anymore and we are encouraging them by using their new and invasive features.

      @bobhi2668@bobhi26686 жыл бұрын
    • Tim Law Welll... you were correct

      @jermaineoosaro779@jermaineoosaro7796 жыл бұрын
  • Don't you mean the danknet

    @binglebop5877@binglebop58778 жыл бұрын
    • Ayyyyyyy lmao!

      @vampcinder7237@vampcinder72377 жыл бұрын
    • * queue classic 80's dank music *

      @lukehanson7554@lukehanson75547 жыл бұрын
    • Brohann Sebastian Bach lol

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      @caesaroftampa1266@caesaroftampa12666 жыл бұрын
  • This guy is very smart!! I'm enjoying listening to him. I love having my privacy after everything I've been through in my life. Thank you. God bless you.

    @Americanjazzlady07@Americanjazzlady077 жыл бұрын
  • The signing of "blowing shit up" was great!

    @LakeVermilionDreams@LakeVermilionDreams8 жыл бұрын
  • Join the dark side and browse evil memes

    @oskarsmurnieks9478@oskarsmurnieks94788 жыл бұрын
    • How do I get into a Redroom? I have Tor, have surfed around the dark web for quite a while and the darkest sites I've come across are the typical snuff sites that you can probably find on the surface web. That's pretty much as bad as it gets, not to mention all the cp links on hidden wiki.

      @LIQUIDSNAKEz28@LIQUIDSNAKEz288 жыл бұрын
    • +LIQUIDSNAKEz28 there not easy to find at all, and even if you do find one you cant even get in without paying for admission for however many bitcoins, and 1 bitcoin = like $300

      @xXxSM0EKWE3DxXx@xXxSM0EKWE3DxXx8 жыл бұрын
    • Nah chill is like 15-16 dollara....

      @davidfigueroa8335@davidfigueroa83358 жыл бұрын
    • +Devad Davad are you kidding? 1 bitcoin is exactly $246.89, lol do your research if you dont know what youre talking about

      @xXxSM0EKWE3DxXx@xXxSM0EKWE3DxXx8 жыл бұрын
    • ***** damn im sorry like 6 years ago bitcoin cost from 14-20 dollars i aint kidding you will find guns pretty cheap. I wasnt aware of its change, but dont get cocky I just dont want to go there again. And actually right now it cost 252.71 dollars 1 bitcoin.

      @davidfigueroa8335@davidfigueroa83358 жыл бұрын
  • Walk to the left, stop, take a step to the right, stop, walk to the right, repeat.

    @ghostl337@ghostl3377 жыл бұрын
    • for wat?

      @atomicanalrape7330@atomicanalrape73307 жыл бұрын
    • I order,postOrder then swing red black black red,hammer,pink...

      @stevebez2767@stevebez27677 жыл бұрын
    • +Steve Bez i fed pidgeon and aunt fanny ate fish why uncle frank killed my pet frog i cried

      @laidback6068@laidback60687 жыл бұрын
    • Ur diagnose is: OCD

      @KillerIceStorm@KillerIceStorm7 жыл бұрын
    • ...then you do the Hokey Pokey and you turn around.. THATS what it's all about!

      @fjjchj9074@fjjchj90745 жыл бұрын
  • This makes me realize my lack of knowledge of how computers actually work and connect despite using them regularly and growing up as part o the age that is supposed to actually understand all the new, 21st century forms of technology.

    @ericsiegel1087@ericsiegel10876 жыл бұрын
  • Very informative. It's good to know what sites to avoid and what would trigger red flags. Thank you.

    @mgg1273@mgg12736 жыл бұрын
  • Damn, he's got a great beard.

    @stef979@stef9797 жыл бұрын
    • Stef Kelgtermans oh yeah it is

      @iloveramune8176@iloveramune81767 жыл бұрын
    • Stef Kelgtermans beard goals

      @MachinamaKilla@MachinamaKilla7 жыл бұрын
    • Stef Kelgtermans keemstar is jelly.

      @goran243@goran2437 жыл бұрын
    • Well, it IS Oregon. Salem’s only an hour south of Portland, hipster heaven.

      @tori2dles@tori2dles6 жыл бұрын
    • lol 311 likes for the beard

      @natefischer4070@natefischer40706 жыл бұрын
  • I was too distracted by his monotone style of speaking, pacing back and forth, and looking at his cue cards to know what he was saying. Very poor presentation style

    @nvvam7597@nvvam75979 жыл бұрын
    • he's still is doing more than you, he got the message out there which is what matters really, if you can't do it better then don't criticize other people's work.

      @evilwearsgucci@evilwearsgucci9 жыл бұрын
    • Sure. Yours was better. Oh yeah. No one cares what you have to say

      @Kingsolowings@Kingsolowings9 жыл бұрын
    • you seem to care, replying and sh!t HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      @evilwearsgucci@evilwearsgucci9 жыл бұрын
    • ***** your words mean nothing. Lol you don't understand the difference.lol

      @Kingsolowings@Kingsolowings9 жыл бұрын
    • nv vam Then the subject he was presenting interest you less then the manner of presenting a presentation. Which is fair enough, but does not apply to me. So: I disagree that your point is a valid one concerning the reason I watched this presentation.

      @UltraKev81@UltraKev818 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks Kyle! You gave some great info to help keep us safe and well-informed. This is true democracy in action, so it's great to hear your sensible understanding of the darkweb.

    @lcarthel@lcarthel9 жыл бұрын
  • I wish more people would use this for positive stuff instead of nefarious ones. This is such a cool thing. Thing is an Anonymouser is your legal right to be private but that doesn’t mean the other companies or entities have to play by the rules

    @michaeljohn8905@michaeljohn89054 жыл бұрын
  • Ted needs more videos like this... Stuff that's based in legit facts. Not someone personal experiences.

    @adrianfaz9581@adrianfaz95819 жыл бұрын
    • Ted is going to put whatever ted wants now stfu

      @Wonderingcrowbird@Wonderingcrowbird8 жыл бұрын
    • I like both kinds of ted talks

      @Atticus_Moore@Atticus_Moore7 жыл бұрын
  • With TOR, I can set up a decent connection. I still need some "dark" hardware though.

    @Donatellangelo@Donatellangelo9 жыл бұрын
  • excellent excellent excellent talk

    @junialter@junialter7 жыл бұрын
  • Just watching this Video will maybe put us on a watchlist

    @raryraru@raryraru5 жыл бұрын
  • The camera man on tedX normally sits back and sips coffee whilst flicking tru a magazine as the talker stands and delivers the talk. Meanwhile the camera man trying to film Kyle Terry:

    @edam4321@edam43214 жыл бұрын
  • Presentation sucks, but the information was interesting.

    @Omegawerewolfx@Omegawerewolfx8 жыл бұрын
    • +Omegawerewolfx -.-

      @dannyfanzypants@dannyfanzypants8 жыл бұрын
    • +Omegawerewolfx I wouldnt expect someone with a high level of knowledge of the deep web to have perfect presentation skills.

      @brandonbilodeau7853@brandonbilodeau78538 жыл бұрын
    • That's what I thought then too. Poor fucker. Still scary crap though.

      @LazyOtaku@LazyOtaku8 жыл бұрын
    • So they allow us to know how to do this, but withhold other information only found on tor?

      @Paddyjay12@Paddyjay128 жыл бұрын
    • +Omegawerewolfx A lot of people visit these sites out of curiosity, nothing wrong with that, many people do not know that their activities are stored and can actually be tracked later, and hence they "research" on these sites for information and risk assessment: Ofc what they want to hear is, Tor / Tails etc. is 100% anonymous and I can look at whatever on the dark web. Reality, however is different, and I believe they deserve this information, so they can make up with themselves, if this is actually worth the risk for them. Knowledge is power, use this to your advantage. Stay safe guys

      @NYorkin@NYorkin8 жыл бұрын
  • Not bad but not great! thanks for the info Ps everyone he might not be so exp in giving live speeches but deserves an A for the effort! I know when I fist started giving live speeches at work I would sweet, lose my words, stutter, pace ect however as time went on these things no longer took effect!

    @benjaminclement8437@benjaminclement84378 жыл бұрын
  • Really appreciate the use of sign language for the impaired.

    @siddheshdeshpande7183@siddheshdeshpande71836 жыл бұрын
  • That was excruciating. Obviously, he knows someone in the right place. That is some seriously basic stuff for late 2014. If there is one more "dark web 101" TEDx talk, I'm going to punch the screen.

    @lancehairdo1429@lancehairdo14298 жыл бұрын
    • +Lance Hairdo TED is just a joke. It will always be just like NPR interviewing scientists and psychologists.

      @alienkishorekumar@alienkishorekumar8 жыл бұрын
    • ThisisNOTCONNECTED TOMYKZhead Why are you getting angry? Am I not supposed to voice my opinion? Am I living in communist country? I'm from India, a country where I can freely voice my likes and dislikes. You can piss off.

      @alienkishorekumar@alienkishorekumar8 жыл бұрын
    • alienkishorekumar I didn't know this when I watched the video but this isn't TED. TED is actually pretty good. This is TEDx. A little local event that doesn't have much to do with the real TED. So keep that in mind when you watch the videos. If it's TEDx, then you may as well skip it.

      @lancehairdo1429@lancehairdo14298 жыл бұрын
    • +Lance Hairdo This is why you don't have your engineers closing the deals. I'm sure this guy knows his stuff, but demonstrating it is a whole 'nother art form.

      @crknipe@crknipe8 жыл бұрын
    • +Lance Hairdo How would you recommend someone learn about it? What would you say is the best source?

      @_marlon@_marlon8 жыл бұрын
  • Until I understand exactly how TOR works, I am going to assume every thing I do on it goes directly to the NSA.

    @jackmiddleton2080@jackmiddleton20808 жыл бұрын
    • tor is actually pretty easy to explain, watch any video explaining it. I do recommend a good firewall and your own proxy with it to be extra cautious.

      @TheOnlyAbomination@TheOnlyAbomination8 жыл бұрын
    • ***** They don't explain it. They explain it about as good as a 2 minute video can explain the theory of relativity. IMO the one thing that keeps you anonymous is that you are one of billions. When you use tor you send up a big flair that says, "come and get me, I am a big fish".

      @jackmiddleton2080@jackmiddleton20808 жыл бұрын
    • No one fucking cares

      @Dev-ep6oy@Dev-ep6oy8 жыл бұрын
    • +Yaboy Dev Only the FBI and the NSA, but no one important. I concur, no one cares, everyone should be as apathetic as you are.

      @PseudoSarcasm@PseudoSarcasm8 жыл бұрын
    • +Jack Middleton indeed

      @fatetestarossa2774@fatetestarossa27748 жыл бұрын
  • WOW....amazing...i had no idea this existed.

    @KevinP32270@KevinP322709 жыл бұрын
  • Good talk 👍

    @squidiebah@squidiebah4 жыл бұрын
  • Ted is awesome

    @lil_peachie4079@lil_peachie40799 жыл бұрын
    • optic gaming is awesome

      @ADK117@ADK1179 жыл бұрын
    • Aditya Krishnan It isn't, really.

      @bingo.6587@bingo.65879 жыл бұрын
    • L33t cummentz guyse! I r8 8/8!!

      @movement2contact@movement2contact9 жыл бұрын
    • ***** It is pretty interesting and it gives a peek of ho it is even if you haven't been there.

      @bingo.6587@bingo.65879 жыл бұрын
    • ***** Destiny was a great game. Just changed it again :D

      @jaymoose1566@jaymoose15669 жыл бұрын
  • To my understanding, TOR browser has been compromised. It's not a hiding place anyore

    @paulwangler@paulwangler8 жыл бұрын
    • +Paul James Anyone hear of Freegate?

      @paulwangler@paulwangler8 жыл бұрын
    • +Paul James to a degree,any one can go on it, what they mean is, once Encryptid data leaves your pc, and travels down the line, your logged into the big ol nsa system, same as if you go on wikileaks, instantly logged, and the reason is, anything that goes in america gets loged, an most servers are there so...yeah everycountry is being moniterd by them (by monitor i dont mean go mental they spying) just filtering stuff, catch the kiddy porn, catch the terrorists, stop potential danger type shit, not average joe tryna sell 3 kg of weed to his uncle over txt message lol

      @TheManglord@TheManglord8 жыл бұрын
  • I love the signing interpreter

    @BeanieO@BeanieO6 жыл бұрын
  • Yet without surveillance we would have not caught some of the most dangerous people.

    @justinstephens72@justinstephens724 жыл бұрын
  • the sign language guy made me laugh

    @patricksohacki9737@patricksohacki97378 жыл бұрын
    • +patrick sohacki your comment had me laughing out loud

      @ZettaFan@ZettaFan8 жыл бұрын
    • +patrick sohacki sign guy ?????????????? REALY ?

      @DZMegamind@DZMegamind8 жыл бұрын
    • +patrick sohacki was he telling jokes?

      @marianavaz2425@marianavaz24258 жыл бұрын
    • i guess what he means is " deaf ppl make me laugh "

      @DZMegamind@DZMegamind8 жыл бұрын
    • +StealthyMonk still got her number? I wanna give her a call

      @patricksohacki9737@patricksohacki97378 жыл бұрын
  • I think i am going to stick to mainstream net browsing but its nice to know what else is out there.

    @ixy1987@ixy19878 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you.

    @loisraymcinnis6006@loisraymcinnis60064 жыл бұрын
  • good talk, ty

    @brucelean4232@brucelean42328 жыл бұрын
  • if you make a website and dont link to it and dont tell google n co its there then its invisible and therefore on the darkweb by default

    @PazLeBon@PazLeBon8 жыл бұрын
    • You need help.

      @jasonbourne7179@jasonbourne71797 жыл бұрын
  • this guys should lift

    @zla3031@zla30317 жыл бұрын
    • why?

      @tylervelo@tylervelo7 жыл бұрын
    • because everyone should

      @quillzzzz@quillzzzz7 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah. and he looks like what I imagine a 180 lb plucked chicken might look like (with a great beard to be fair)

      @zla3031@zla30317 жыл бұрын
    • he might do bench press only cuz he got chest

      @cococo1010@cococo10106 жыл бұрын
    • Is that even important? did you get here to look guys or to listen the talk?

      @crischl6814@crischl68146 жыл бұрын
  • I know absolutely nothing about the internet and I have absolutely no intention of starting to learn. Ignorance is bliss.

    @excavator31@excavator31 Жыл бұрын
  • It kinda bothers me how his attitude is mostly neutral to the deep web rather than hostile. You don't know how humans really are until you've stumbled across a snuff film and watched everyone's excited reactions. You think there are sick fucks on the surface web? You don't know what sick fucks are until you've gone on the dark web.

    @kylecurran6747@kylecurran67478 жыл бұрын
    • we're all a little fucked up buddy.. why do you think horror is such a popular browser?

      @tovon101@tovon1018 жыл бұрын
    • +Kyle Curran It bothers you that people publish it on the darknet, the same sick fucks use arpanet and go onto FaceBook, but they dont publish there stuff on their public feed and if they do, there stuff gets moderated and removed before you even get to see it. So there's no point to be hostile It's safe to say the darknet simply makes you more aware of how sick people really are, but ignoring it doesn't suddenly make humans "un-sick". If anything if the effort of the NSA were less about mass-targeting than they could easily track down actual criminals, but that's not their aim, they target everything helpful to maintain political and finincial power over the world.

      @reconx86@reconx868 жыл бұрын
    • +Kyle Curran dude the surface web is where the snuff films is nobody uses deep web to upload them lol you're stupid

      @Brunosten@Brunosten8 жыл бұрын
    • +wefjwpfewjfqjeiofpnm huiefnmoisfmieo are you fucking stupid

      @xXxSM0EKWE3DxXx@xXxSM0EKWE3DxXx8 жыл бұрын
    • the deep web isnt all bad. theres sites that help people out of suicide and ones that sell medication to people who dont have insurance and cant get prescriptions. also acting completely biased towards it in a presentation is unprofessional when hes trying to explain everything it is to these people

      @xXxSM0EKWE3DxXx@xXxSM0EKWE3DxXx8 жыл бұрын
  • Cool to throw into a conversation . 'I am using Thor '. Whats that ? The DARK NET .....

    @twaksak69@twaksak698 жыл бұрын
    • tor

      @andremedina44@andremedina447 жыл бұрын
    • Are you a spazzer

      @grapefriedrice5338@grapefriedrice53386 жыл бұрын
  • What if Tor was a trick to get your dark secrets out by making you believe you remain anonymous? I say keep a diary and talk in person :)

    @wami_world@wami_world8 жыл бұрын
    • Talk in person with a microphone in your pocket lol. Also TOR is entirely open source (and has been for a long time)

      @user-tr8kr1jd2o@user-tr8kr1jd2o3 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you

    @robertwagner7439@robertwagner74394 жыл бұрын
  • Wow, Shared Millions Of Times Through My Like Videos Playlists...

    @robertfoertsch@robertfoertsch4 жыл бұрын
  • Omg! Did anyone else see the sign language guy? That's so great.

    @elizabeths.6549@elizabeths.65498 жыл бұрын
  • so, tor, owned by government to hide from government. Yhea that's totally true :D

    @ilparola@ilparola8 жыл бұрын
    • +ilparola TOR has been compromised, and is no longer necessarily anonymous. The whole point of TOR was to provide a secure, anonymous network, so the government having a backdoor to sniff network traffic would defeat the purpose. Despite what they would like you to believe, they do not have a monopoly on the world's best engineers and coders. They used to have a hard time following the hops, and would thus lose the trail to what you were searching for. They can now peel back the encryption fast enough to follow the hops, meaning if they wanted to see what you were searching, they can. But first they would have to want to see what you specifically were searching. All that really means for the average Joe using TOR is that they better not make it onto a surveillance list, or they run the risk of using an anonymous service that is being sniffed by the feds. Big news for journalists and political dissidents, not so much for people who just want to watch porn without the NSA knowing their kink.

      @jacobw6629@jacobw66298 жыл бұрын
    • ***** mice.cs.columbia.edu/getTechreport.php?techreportID=1545&format=pdf

      @jacobw6629@jacobw66298 жыл бұрын
    • ***** Yes, and my comment is dumbed-down for the layman, as I find most people using TOR are not network or server specialists, and really just want a basic version of what is going on. My previous comment is incorrect in it's description of how they are monitoring traffic as most people don't want to hear about monitoring a certain percentage of nodes with common router firmware, so I gave them something that, while technically wrong, gets the point across. Also, if you are looking for some sources that don't require reading through collegiate papers, here ya go: www.computerworld.com/article/2863937/snowden-docs-show-tor-truecrypt-tails-topped-nsas-most-wanted-list-in-12.html This has been old news for a while. The NSA and FBI have been looking to do this for years, and honestly I'm surprised it took them this long as it is. TOR was never a guarantee, just a really fancy shell game, but it looks like the high speed cameras have caught up. Go figure.

      @jacobw6629@jacobw66298 жыл бұрын
    • +Jacob W Lets be real this is America we're talking about. Installing tor on your computer probably auto puts you on a watch list.

      @mikeseitz1381@mikeseitz13818 жыл бұрын
    • Eric Norton LMAO I'm pretty sure that it doesn't take anything so scandalous as downloading TOR to end you up on a watch list anymore. But if you'd like a surefire bet for how to end up on one, TOR is a fast pass. It doesn't matter though, they dragnet email and phone conversations, so if you even talk about it they probably flag your information. Such is the name of the game for the NSA anymore. Sad days.

      @jacobw6629@jacobw66298 жыл бұрын
  • I found it cool how there was a sign language translator at the front of the stage

    @johnathan1071@johnathan10716 жыл бұрын
  • kudos to the signer, never had any idea the lectures were signed.

    @valeriedsouza8106@valeriedsouza81066 жыл бұрын
  • Thumbnail: Is that keemstar?

    @lucaslucas191202@lucaslucas1912027 жыл бұрын
    • lol

      @MonsterZzzGamer@MonsterZzzGamer7 жыл бұрын
  • This guy scares me, I have no idea why, but he does. I also believe he wears aluminum foil when he's doing his computer thing(s).

    @battmann678@battmann6788 жыл бұрын
  • Good point

    @pokersinhhhh@pokersinhhhh8 жыл бұрын
  • He should of explained the dangers like even if you are "hidden" people can find out where you live and your information and all the dangerous sites

    @brii6699@brii66998 жыл бұрын
  • The information is great but this guy sounds so bored...

    @codyraymiller@codyraymiller7 жыл бұрын
    • i was thinking the same

      @vargasisaac@vargasisaac7 жыл бұрын
    • Cody Ray Miller He's not bored, just tired and disappointed from life..

      @Rasarel@Rasarel7 жыл бұрын
    • He's a nihilist. Actually, he manages the facebook page "Nihilist Memes"'.

      @yooka333@yooka3337 жыл бұрын
    • He was ok I found him interesting.

      @TelecasterLPGTop@TelecasterLPGTop6 жыл бұрын
    • Cody Ray Miller I think hes just really introverted and nervous

      @mickcv4554@mickcv45546 жыл бұрын
  • wow aphex twin would be using tor lol

    @igaze75@igaze759 жыл бұрын
    • also he said "Aphex Twins announcing their new album" lol he has no clue :')

      @Pulse952@Pulse9527 жыл бұрын
    • what do you mean|?

      @valeriedsouza8106@valeriedsouza81066 жыл бұрын
    • @@valeriedsouza8106 It's one man (Richard D James). The 'Twin' is because he is a twin. But his twin passed at a young age. So he keeps his name alive with his monakar and music.

      @mystereo9041@mystereo90415 жыл бұрын
    • I was into his stuff back in the 90's, and I had no idea about the story of why he refers to himself as Aphex Twin, so cheers for that, 🤙🏻 🍻

      @KumaBean@KumaBean4 жыл бұрын
  • I don't know if there is a decent sign for "node incription" in sign language

    @netbookeater@netbookeater6 жыл бұрын
  • At 0:55 that sure looks like a NEXT Computer!

    @cccmusicality@cccmusicality7 жыл бұрын
  • change the speed to 2 to save moments of your life

    @Ben-ki8ke@Ben-ki8ke8 жыл бұрын
  • TED Why aren't your videos closed captioned. Come on guys!

    @colinwilliams8818@colinwilliams88188 жыл бұрын
    • It's has sign language guy for those who need assistance. ;)

      @LazyOtaku@LazyOtaku8 жыл бұрын
    • He's out of frame...

      @lukazg5929@lukazg59298 жыл бұрын
    • +Lucid Libraryan its there, click on the button

      @DJPacoRamirez@DJPacoRamirez8 жыл бұрын
  • "I hope this got you as excited as I am" delivered in the most monotonous way possible...

    @brianpacos4072@brianpacos40726 жыл бұрын
    • That IS excited behaviour from computer geeks... ;-)

      @hughthenasia3153@hughthenasia31534 жыл бұрын
  • informative

    @saibot293@saibot2937 жыл бұрын
  • And here I am watching this youtube video using a standard browser :) lol

    @nzscruffy7171@nzscruffy71718 жыл бұрын
    • +NZScruffy You don't need Tor to watch youtube.

      @aastikdubey6422@aastikdubey64228 жыл бұрын
  • Hehe, how Kyle must have cried later on when Windows 10 was released. Maybe still crying. Bringing surveillance to the last level.

    @cestarianinhabitant5898@cestarianinhabitant58988 жыл бұрын
    • +Cestarian Inhabitant Please expand, I'm using windows 10 and you've got me sketched out....

      @anguskane8195@anguskane81958 жыл бұрын
    • Angus Kane You didn't know? In a nutshell, Windows 10 tracks every file in your computer, every word document or email you write or read, (literally) every keystroke you make, and well... yeah, just E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G. you do, or on your computer is forwarded to microsoft's servers. And microsoft are not even trying to hide this; and they say you can turn much of this stuff off, but not all (I mean they have officially on record stated that not all surveillance can be disabled in windows 10), which indeed, you can't (and there are a few programs out there which claim they can, many of which is spyware and the remaining few are probably not bulletproof) It gets worse if you read their services agreement (and this applies to all people logged in to windows 10 on a live account, all xbox users, all people using oh idk, their office pack and outlook, etc, but not windows 10 directly (although I am sure that doesn't mean a thing since most of this is part of windows 10 anyways)) Here, really, knock yourself out www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/ Get a load of article 2.b. or this snippet: "to improve Microsoft products and services, you grant to Microsoft a worldwide and royalty-free intellectual property license to use Your Content" and sure, sure, you can argue that microsoft are probably not going to actually steal somebody's program or artwork or other work related files and publish for their own. But the fact that this is there means that they may at any point decide to think about doing it, and doesn't it just raise a fucking eyebrow for you that they put this in their services agreement?. I'm sure I didn't even catch everything wrong with Windows 10, but it bugs the living shit out of me when I talk about this stuff online, that people are actually trying to defend Microsoft's complete disregard for human rights, even to the point of glorifying windows. And I cannot imagine any other reason for this happening besides these people being in denial, because the thought of abandoning windows for unknowns like linux, or shit they don't like OS X (which I would argue is probably no better than windows in any single way, so really linux is the only real option, and other open source operating systems) it scares them. They are afraid of abandoning what they know, so they go into denial and outright deny the need for change, the need to take a stance against these corporate mother fuckers and put on the breaks, because this shit is not ok. Wi-Fi Sense was also part of the problem (biggest fattest security hole in any operating system ever made) but I hear they cancelled that crap the other day, if they really did I will stop my policy of not even allowing any friend who uses Windows 10 to log in to my wireless network. Because you know, I don't want just anyone to be able to without effort. The only sane thing to do is stick with windows 7, uninstall any updates after Windows 10's announcements (because these tracking features actually got added in to 7 via updates), and find a linux distribution to stick with (I recommend fedora with cinnamon (and I recommend it over linux mint, but that one is also ok), or kubuntu, I can not recommend ubuntu, but for people who like apple type interfaces, debian would be a good choice instead if you don't mind some of the programs running a bit older versions). And you should only really stick with Windows 7 because I'm sure you'll want to dual boot while first using linux, and give yourself some time to adapt to it, find alternatives to your favorite windows software that does not run on Linux (I honestly managed to find alternatives for everything, to my huge surprise because I have rather specific needs; but it took me a long time to find them all, and test various alternatives that didn't work out for me); because the truth is that Microsoft has been doing similar stuff since Window 95 or earlier. They just haven't been doing it this openly, and probably not to this level of extreme, but you are still vulnerable to all this surveillance by just using a windows operating system, just not as vulnerable as on Windows 10. (I think, can not confirm but I think that with older versions of windows they have surveillance options built in in such a way that you need to be specifically a target of surveillance by NSA or FBI for them to use backdoors to get in your system and check your shit out, it's more roundabout than just directly taking all the files and well, sharing it with them)

      @cestarianinhabitant5898@cestarianinhabitant58988 жыл бұрын
    • +Cestarian Inhabitant You are correct but a simple google search you will find you can disable all of the above mentioned features as I have done!

      @benjaminclement8437@benjaminclement84378 жыл бұрын
    • Benjamin Clement Yeah, cus you can disable the services agreement... Also, as I said before "And microsoft are not even trying to hide this; and they say you can turn much of this stuff off, but not all (I mean they have officially on record stated that not all surveillance can be disabled in windows 10), which indeed, you can't (and there are a few programs out there which claim they can, many of which is spyware and the remaining few are probably not bulletproof)" These programs, are you really confident in their ability to lock out microsoft from your system? That would be kinda stupid, when microsoft are the ones who created the operating system and have full control over the kernel and could have put god knows what kind of toxic shit in there which these programs can't do anything about. Which is why as I said, the only sane choice is to use Windows 7 while transitioning to Linux or another open source OS, then dumping microsoft's ass because we're in an abusive relationship with these fuckers.

      @cestarianinhabitant5898@cestarianinhabitant58988 жыл бұрын
    • I do things the old fashion way on computer it's the only way to be sure! However yes there may be registry I fail to modify or exe, CMD, DLL's ect I have missed modifying, nothing is bulletproof and I gaurentee you this type of stuff has been and still is in most if not all operating systems, windows 10 is just the first time they openly let the public know about it, to merely gauge how far we can be dominated at the moment, xbox did the same and can turn there spy stuff on (if it is even off) anytime they want people still bought them! Now something that someone keeps on them almost always, can emit different frequency (can be used to disable a person via noise), it gets given most of if not all your information, the way to use it is to put a small thing inside it that you must be registered, is used by almost all for there everyday needs and we can sell to everyone year after year with better surveillance inside and higher prices! Oh wait already been invented and sold to the unaware public, they are called mobile phones. Gee Microsoft with windows 10 is just trying to play catch up in the whole surveillance game and we know how much Microsoft love stealing other peoples ideas! There is this other awesome tool know as social networking eg FB, myspace, Twitter ect that most people use and they do a pretty good job at surveillance too! Saying windows 7 is any better than windows 10 is laughable (they both suck for surveillance) and gives me the impression you do not no to much about how the surveillance game is played or just how long it has been waging! PS I totaly agree it sucks and should not be done and I wish it was just that easy to move to a diffrent OS however I am a gamer so no other OS can game at this point in time (not really game eg apple) but your phone is a way bigger threat than your OS and you should look at what effect sounds even non audible to us can have on a person and exactly what type of frequencies our phones use! Did you know the legal stuff sent to you with your phone lets you know that the phone within 5m of your brain is unsafe in fact it makes it clear you must never have the phone within 5m of your head, now this is of course in the very boring legal crap that no one reads or now more commonly is hidden somewhere on the manufactures website, now how are we meant to safely use our phone if we cant get within 5m of it? They may by now have stopped mentioning this completely as quite a few people started taking photos of the manuals and uploading pdf version highlighting the insanity of this!

      @benjaminclement8437@benjaminclement84378 жыл бұрын
  • Best part of this is by far the sign language translator

    @barrakimanta@barrakimanta6 жыл бұрын
  • Ted talks is prime viewing

    @Sin.Atonement@Sin.Atonement4 жыл бұрын
  • I wish I was computer minded =(

    @bobcrutch8905@bobcrutch89058 жыл бұрын
    • +bob crutch To sum it up: google torproject. Download it, install it, use it for everything you'd rather not have associated with your real identity.

      @Xevailo@Xevailo8 жыл бұрын
    • Xevailo thanks =)...its the 229 up dates to my drivers that I'm behind on that's my issue...I don't do anything iffy on here...peace =)

      @bobcrutch8905@bobcrutch89058 жыл бұрын
  • if it's so good, then how do we know about how snowden used it

    @jabara83@jabara838 жыл бұрын
    • +jabara83 Snowden have said it himself maybe?

      @DRUlreich@DRUlreich8 жыл бұрын
    • +jabara83 Probably because he approached The Guardian?

      @1000lionell@1000lionell8 жыл бұрын
    • Lionell Dcosta but couldnt he have told them through this system then?

      @jabara83@jabara838 жыл бұрын
    • +jabara83 He is interviewed by the Guardian a million Times through Glenn Greenland he is a whistle blower journalist And there's an original Documentary of Edward Snowden - CitizenFour which you can watch and in that he also exposes some of the NSA search engines and other tools .

      @aastikdubey6422@aastikdubey64228 жыл бұрын
  • I've watched several videos and listened to various podcasts featuring hackers presenting or being interviewed--maybe a half dozen/dozen total. Haven't yet come across one where they assume I don't know all the basic hacker-speak jargon they throw out. In other words, none of them seem able to teach or explain things to anyone who isn't a dedicated-IT employee. Disappointing, because I still manage to find what they do/are able to do fascinating.

    @fochilin@fochilin8 жыл бұрын
    • +fochilin The topics discussed in this video are quite basic, I'm not sure if it can be explained in simpler language.

      @Amit-wu8kc@Amit-wu8kc8 жыл бұрын
  • Dark Side Of The Web has to be an album/song name for a group of nerds somewhere!

    @enigmatic474@enigmatic4747 жыл бұрын
  • someone get this guy a Medium sized shirt

    @04dram04@04dram046 жыл бұрын
  • This dude should've ended his speech by purchasing some DMT off Tor.

    @Kafei@Kafei9 жыл бұрын
    • Have you ever found a reliable / quality source?

      @jaredrileysmith@jaredrileysmith8 жыл бұрын
    • Jared Smith know good Sources?

      @yuricastellobranco@yuricastellobranco7 жыл бұрын
    • lmfao

      @jayfeejr.9226@jayfeejr.92267 жыл бұрын
    • 😂😂😂 Love don't love you.

      @jasonbourne7179@jasonbourne71797 жыл бұрын
    • Jason Bourne, interesting quote, who said that?

      @joelee5875@joelee58757 жыл бұрын
  • Using Orbot , its awesome !

    @martinsteyn2909@martinsteyn29096 жыл бұрын
  • i thought you shouldn't use BitTorrent with TOR. "If you must work with DOC and/or PDF files, we strongly recommend either using a disconnected computer, downloading the free VirtualBox and using it with a virtual machine image with networking disabled, or using Tails. Under no circumstances is it safe to use BitTorrent and Tor together"

    @ramO-jp8tp@ramO-jp8tp8 жыл бұрын
    • ramO 1995 hi. what u can do on a virtual machine without internet?! lol. please can um explain that? have tô be conections right?!? thanks =D

      @yuricastellobranco@yuricastellobranco7 жыл бұрын
  • the way he walks around is annoying for some reason ...

    @TitusM7@TitusM78 жыл бұрын
    • A sniper wanted to shoot him thats why

      @MrKirbinio@MrKirbinio8 жыл бұрын
    • FUCK. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

      @cristoll7987@cristoll79878 жыл бұрын
    • hehe Yeah it is. but maby he is nervous. Walk around and doing some shit with ur hands is really good

      @joeymarcus2440@joeymarcus24407 жыл бұрын
    • He is imitating the darknets :p

      @TamGleerupTorstved@TamGleerupTorstved7 жыл бұрын
    • Tychus that's the cocaine walking …

      @ulalaFrugilega@ulalaFrugilega7 жыл бұрын
  • You guys heard of the "Monkey house".

    @joesapiens2871@joesapiens28718 жыл бұрын
    • where can i find that story?

      @omgstoptakingnames@omgstoptakingnames7 жыл бұрын
    • I doubt that story is true. From all the Red Room stories I've heard, the Monkey House is one of the tamer stuff out there. I doubt a hacker would quit just from that.

      @MrGamer1992@MrGamer19927 жыл бұрын
    • ***** It's just a story about some hacker who went into a red room (which is basically a live stream of someone doing illegal stuff) and saw a stream about torturing people for entertainment. The story ain't true. I doubt that will scare a hacker to quit.

      @MrGamer1992@MrGamer19927 жыл бұрын
    • TheDeceivingEye It's complete bull from the versions I've heard he's switching VPNs every minute which means either he loses connection every minute or people see his real ip.

      @ciarankelly8961@ciarankelly89617 жыл бұрын
    • Joe Sapiens well thnx for remembering me

      @hahahelfy9807@hahahelfy98077 жыл бұрын
  • this guy actually read the terms of service for facebook and linkedin? thats dedication.

    @rishabhanand4973@rishabhanand49737 жыл бұрын
  • So where the frequenies came from hughh.. Originally where i thought it came from!!!!

    @rickyricardo6211@rickyricardo62114 жыл бұрын
  • is that a Live Deaf translator? that is COOL.

    @hitmanwolf@hitmanwolf8 жыл бұрын
    • pretty cool

      @alexrivera2526@alexrivera25268 жыл бұрын
  • This is what I show on my channel!

    @Takedownman@Takedownman8 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, this is what you show on your channel, Mr. Takedownman.

      @31343100@313431008 жыл бұрын
    • Self promotion much?

      @jonboy318ownzatDO@jonboy318ownzatDO8 жыл бұрын
    • +PabloMontoya What do you think all the ads you see on KZhead, Facebook, etc are? Companies trying to promote themselves. So how is it okay for a big company (McDonalds for example), to promote themselves when everybody, worldwide, knows who they are. But when a less known person tries to do it on a MUCH smaller scale, it's all of a sudden a bad thing?

      @JoLoneyMusic@JoLoneyMusic8 жыл бұрын
    • +I'mSoAWD AMEN

      @LIQUIDSNAKEz28@LIQUIDSNAKEz288 жыл бұрын
    • +Takedownman apart from.. ur full of shit and know nothing about anything...

      @Nyamsuss@Nyamsuss8 жыл бұрын
  • ... I love setup screens...

    @msshannonigans@msshannonigans4 жыл бұрын
  • How can a man feel guilty for reading something? What are people becoming? Are you really that afraid to disagree or explore an unpopular viewpoint? Have people got to the point that they are afraid to think about something?

    @ckryegrass11@ckryegrass116 жыл бұрын
  • Ao the internet is tubes under ground and antennas? Or was that a joke?

    @Maxmekker42@Maxmekker427 жыл бұрын
    • Not a joke at all. That's how it is built. Here is an awesome explanation : arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/05/how-the-internet-works-submarine-cables-data-centres-last-mile/

      @Papayalexius@Papayalexius7 жыл бұрын
    • Bboy Network thanks man

      @Maxmekker42@Maxmekker427 жыл бұрын
    • i layed the tubes my friend i also help build drover the main sky tv network satelite look up in the sky tonight your get 150 satelites per hour

      @laidback6068@laidback60687 жыл бұрын
    • Soleimsen you're welcome dude

      @Papayalexius@Papayalexius7 жыл бұрын
    • g

      @nasanazi756@nasanazi7567 жыл бұрын
  • Was I the only one who noticed a guy in black down the dice doing some gestures??

    @adityarathore8462@adityarathore84627 жыл бұрын
    • ADITYA RATHORE it looked like he was translating it to deaf people

      @Zinja@Zinja7 жыл бұрын
    • +Zinja Yeah! Even I think so now.

      @adityarathore8462@adityarathore84627 жыл бұрын
    • Pretty sure hes just dancing

      @ratchet3789@ratchet37897 жыл бұрын
    • GCT10/31/1990 it's a joke... I hope

      @ratchet3789@ratchet37897 жыл бұрын
    • GCT10/31/1990 Shut the hell up you fucking Judas!! No one asked your opinion.

      @adityarathore8462@adityarathore84627 жыл бұрын
  • Do you need a VPN to use Tor?

    @lolb4udie@lolb4udie5 жыл бұрын
  • Well, that guy had the charisma and smile of a stone.... :O

    @Iznoful@Iznoful7 жыл бұрын
  • Geez wish our non dark web social sites were that clean.

    @1979hellcat@1979hellcat7 жыл бұрын
  • HOLY SHIIIIIT RAYMOND KENNY IS REAL?

    @nicholastesoriero4855@nicholastesoriero48557 жыл бұрын
    • Nicholas Tesoriero lol

      @SupaDopex3@SupaDopex37 жыл бұрын
    • Nicholas Tesoriero 😂

      @flako6096@flako60967 жыл бұрын
    • Ryt t

      @MinhVu-fr1hm@MinhVu-fr1hm7 жыл бұрын
  • any good sites i should visit whilst on tor?

    @helloohelloo3948@helloohelloo39488 жыл бұрын
  • The dark net is the future towards people's privacy and anonymity . What needs to happen is that the community using it can protect themselves from the extremes who also use it, I think they can but it needs some negotiation.

    @wingingninja@wingingninja7 жыл бұрын
  • Hate to sound like an idiot but, what's Silk Road?

    @ZincCrossknee@ZincCrossknee7 жыл бұрын
    • A place where people buy drugs. Cocaine, heroin, the hard stuff.

      @karentookthekids1032@karentookthekids10327 жыл бұрын
    • Dr Sp.Ace It was the biggest drug market on the dark web

      @tyrus7075@tyrus70757 жыл бұрын
    • Dr Sp.Ace There are others version that also sells guns,human parts/organs but they didn't made enough profit so the creator shut it down

      @justafan7549@justafan75497 жыл бұрын
    • Tyrus707 yeah it got replaced with gram now

      @mayhem1994@mayhem19947 жыл бұрын
    • A road made out of silk, it took spiders ages to build so has a high regard amongst the hacking community.

      @kazz5742@kazz57427 жыл бұрын
  • did he say: Tor was used during the Arab spring in 2011 Iran protest! (t=10:20) not doubt TOR is useful during protests, but Arab spring did not spread to Iran, and Iran is not an Arab country, but nice try haha

    @AminFERJANI@AminFERJANI8 жыл бұрын
    • Probably meant the Iran protests in 2009

      @musclepunched@musclepunched8 жыл бұрын
    • There was a brief uprising, it was crushed almost instantly

      @quest4adventure495@quest4adventure4955 жыл бұрын
  • I had to study uranium for a screenplay and freaked out that I would get a visit. SHould have used Tor or Substratum.

    @futurewolffilms607@futurewolffilms6075 жыл бұрын
  • (DreamMarket > Vendor > Nextgeneration has the best Sharif Hash + Stardawg i have ever tasted the high was a long lasting body stone..Lovely bedtime smoke.Nice video thanks for the share bro.

    @bitcoinmixingthingsup9004@bitcoinmixingthingsup90045 жыл бұрын
  • Is he son of T-Bone from Watch Dogs :P (No offence)

    @whoisadeeb@whoisadeeb8 жыл бұрын
    • No hes not rob zombie jr

      @bdre5555@bdre55554 жыл бұрын
  • deep web? not even once

    @mostdefmusic@mostdefmusic8 жыл бұрын
  • Really no one is appreciating the hands signal guy......what a talent to decode such jargons just by hands

    @chiraglakhotia6458@chiraglakhotia64583 жыл бұрын
  • Ok so I’m confused. If I use say google to search and download Tor, won’t they know that I downloaded it and look for me there???

    @WWTormentor@WWTormentor4 жыл бұрын
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