Stamps: 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:46 Vive 00:07:34 Pro 00:13:13 Focus 00:22:29 Cosmos 00:29:31 Focus Plus 00:34:50 Pro Eye 00:38:30 Cosmos Elite 00:41:59 Focus 3 00:48:27 Flow 00:53:31 Pro 2 01:00:33 XR Elite 01:07:58 Outro
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What about vives most popular headset? (The google cardboard)
@Gurpthescreenzombie24 күн бұрын
A legend returns!
@josalt24 күн бұрын
True
@Creepman5324 күн бұрын
*They're BACK!*
@ReeksofChees322 күн бұрын
@@ReeksofChees3 oh my god it’s ReeksofChees3
@Gurpthescreenzombie22 күн бұрын
@@ReeksofChees3 when is next upload
@Gurpthescreenzombie22 күн бұрын
Did not realize vive made so many headsets
@Ballman40424 күн бұрын
Ikr!!
@josalt24 күн бұрын
@@josaltbusiness version?!
@briwu22 күн бұрын
And all of them are absolute garbage. Except the OG vive.
@RabbitConfirmed21 күн бұрын
@@RabbitConfirmed says?
@briwu21 күн бұрын
@@briwu @RabbitConfirmed
@ipadize17 күн бұрын
its wild how in like, 2016-2018 they were the kings of VR, with all the biggest youtubers hopping on the vive
@doktorweedus765919 күн бұрын
Yep 140,000 sales, now its a ghost town
@josalt19 күн бұрын
I don’t even know how a small content creator can spend so much on content this is such a good channel
@DeckDive23 күн бұрын
I buy and sell them as i go along and thanks! Thats nice of you to say!
@josalt23 күн бұрын
@@josalt also do you have a discord server?
@DeckDive23 күн бұрын
@@DeckDive discord.com/invite/7yyNUmGwxC
@josalt23 күн бұрын
I had no idea the OG Vive had a pass through cam! Wow, that's very ahead of its time.
@DiamondDepthYT24 күн бұрын
Yeah crazy! Valve know there stuff
@josalt24 күн бұрын
i have the OG vive and i didn't know either... i mean i see the cam on the device but i forget about it and dont know how to turn it on lmao
@nidgithm19 күн бұрын
Been a while 🤪 Discord: discord.com/invite/7yyNUmGwxC X: twitter.com/josaltvr?lang=en
@josalt24 күн бұрын
Finally someone actually recognizes the other Vive headsets besides the OG Vive.
@BlenderGeek419620 күн бұрын
This was a Great Video! Really shows how Vive relied on Valve for the original Vive.
@lightmaxifrvr266724 күн бұрын
Thanks that's so nice of you to say!
@josalt24 күн бұрын
>Gets to vive pro eye, doesn't use it for anything other than neos (it can be used for eye tracking in VRchat, ChilloutVR, and Resonite aka neos's successor), doesn't use face tracker addon (understandable, those are harder to get than the pro eye itself these days, also isn't bundled with the pro eye) >Still puts it at top of list :o
@Insanegrox19 күн бұрын
man, you just do the best vr content, like, just keep going please
@josegabriel_112324 күн бұрын
This was such a wonderfully done video. I started on the og vive and I hold a lot of nostalgia for it. VR was just so new and exciting at the time. The music choice especially in the video was so perfect. Slow gentle ambience, it reminds me a lot of VR back in the day. I don’t quite know how to describe it. Thankyou for investing your time into going through each vive headset, after the og vive I went to the index and never got to tryout a lot of htc’s other offerings.
@PoundBandana20 күн бұрын
Wow, thank you so much for the kind words! Yeah early VR those were the days. It was so cool. No one knew exactly what it would turn into. Yeah you arent missing out on much haha i think index is better then every vive headset
@josalt20 күн бұрын
excellent video. underrated channel. i can only imagine i found this because i started using my vive again to compare it to quest 3. keep it up man
@tsgxunclesurge793521 күн бұрын
Much appreciated!
@josalt20 күн бұрын
Great video! Just FYI, the Vive Pro 2 has a big rang of other issues. Just like the Focus 3 (same optical design), it oversaturates colors, so that they look completely wrong. On top of that, the stereo overlap is eye strain inducing, as it is at 70° or sth, compared to the 90° of the Vive Pro. Also, it dynamically reduces brightness to reduce heat, and if you turn this awful feature off, the headset overheats to the point of the displays breaking.
@blenderalien23 күн бұрын
Yeah i dohnt know what HTC are doing... I didnt run into those issues but i loved the pro !
@josalt23 күн бұрын
My first headset was the HTC vive that I had for about 5 years and played hl:a and boneworks at that time. At some point in time, I switched the vive controllers with the index ones before doing a full switch to the valve index. Switching between the two is a massive improvement
@gas_mask_guy19 күн бұрын
I still playing vr on first htc vive and this headset is still compatible with new games (except Bonelab , this game needs valve controllers which I already bought) , so it shows that first htc vive is very good headset
@DuplexUA24 күн бұрын
Yeah its still very usable in 2024 which is nuts.
@josalt24 күн бұрын
@@josalt I'm still using an original vive, after watching this video I'm thinking about upgrading my headset to a vive pro 2, as the screen door effect of the original is annoying.
@MrRaffles123423 күн бұрын
been waiting for this one!
@GamingAndRCs24 күн бұрын
🥰
@josalt24 күн бұрын
Oh,finally some good VR content. This is history of VR,good to know what we came from,and what we came through
@daftysnake701923 күн бұрын
🥰
@josalt23 күн бұрын
Awesome comparison between all the HTC headsets! I had the original HTC Vive, bought it used. Kept it a few years then sold it maybe 2 years ago. I ended up getting a Pimax Crystal after building a much beefier PC to support the resolution. I'll say the resolution of the HTC Vive was low enough my old gaming laptop could drive it just fine. But man, the screen door effect was always present. I like flight sims, and reading the gauges was always difficult unless you got up close. So I waited until a much higher res HMD came along where that wouldn't be such an issue, thus the Crystal. I knew HTC made quite a few headsets, but didn't realize they made 11! My first Android phone was a HTC DROID Incredible, good little phone.
@marcusdamberger19 күн бұрын
i was actually searching up the history of vive with all the vive headsets and there werent any vids about them, UNTIL NOW! TYSM!
@idontdrawartagain20 күн бұрын
Thanks for the nice words
@josalt20 күн бұрын
dude this video is amazing ur channel is so underrated
@happydudeev23 күн бұрын
I appreciate that!
@josalt23 күн бұрын
FINALLY I WUZ WAITIN FOR THIS VID
@rjaxplayz20 күн бұрын
Love this video! Would love to see it done with other variations of headsets, like Oculus for example. Heck, even with other devices (like Gaming consoles) I think a series similar to this would be super entertaining.
@ensuredchaos809820 күн бұрын
He did it with Oculus too
@Freakishink2929 күн бұрын
your video's are so much fun to watch. i learned some cool things from this video, even though i have no headset (my family is poor). i normally get bored from 30 minute video's, but i never got bored of this one.
@sleman460515 күн бұрын
Thanks for the kind words
@josalt13 күн бұрын
this guys awesome just honest opinions and solid reviews 🔥🔥
@bonkismonkey24 күн бұрын
Thanks legend
@josalt24 күн бұрын
Nice vid, you demonstrate why HTC has a confusing line up. I had no idea they had so many different versions of the Vive. Have you tried the PSVR2?
@ShiYuMeng223 күн бұрын
Yep way too many haha. Nah never tired psvr. I want to though
@josalt23 күн бұрын
7:24 I love the HTC Veev
@nutauri20 күн бұрын
VEEEEEV
@josalt19 күн бұрын
I love this series!
@Enanout24 күн бұрын
Thanks mate!
@josalt24 күн бұрын
@@josalt I remember when the oculus video came out and i loved it, keep up the amazing work =)
@Enanout24 күн бұрын
I have Covid and didn't notice this video was an hour long, thank you for keeping me distracted 😆
@LucaHedger24 күн бұрын
Get well soon!
@josalt23 күн бұрын
This really feels like a labor of love video and I love it!
@way_of_escape10 күн бұрын
hey josalt how do you feel about the rift and vive screen looks like? are they almost the same? just the overall experience not the small detail different. i got a vive kit without link box so i can't see it myself but i do have a working rift kit
@arcticfoxacosta19 күн бұрын
Amazing video showing the evolution of vive, I wonder what the future of their headsets will look like.
@Lemonbruv19 күн бұрын
Thanks!! It's not looking good lol they will probably pivot to something else
@josalt19 күн бұрын
Nice informative video mate. I've owned 3x Vive headsets over the last 5yrs; OG Cosmos, Vive Pro1, and XR Elite. My OG Cosmos has been packed away a long time ago thanks to poor tracking. My Preordered XR Elite went back for a refund because I never could get wireless PCVR to work as well as my Quest Pro. Too bad, because it was nice and comfy. I still have and use my +4.5yo VP1 (with 2x2.0 base stations, Etsy Gear VR lens mod, and Index controllers). This headset still works well and night flying in sims like msfs2020 and playing darkish games is very nice. However, the SDE is a lot more than I'd like and even with a lot of super sampling thanks to my rtx4090, the clarity is nowhere near as good as my QPro and Q3. I never bothered getting a VP2 because of its lack of oled, together with fresnel lens that could not be upgraded like my VP1 w/Etsy lens mod. Maybe wishful thinking but I'm hoping in the near future to see a Vive Pro3 with high res micro-oled screens and pancake lens. Also hopefully in a bit smaller form factor. If Vive doesn't come out with something like this I think that their days in PCVR may likely be coming to an end. Time will tell I guess. Anyway, thanks again for your vid mate and best cheers from the GC.
@tomc138019 күн бұрын
I have the HTC vive pro 2 and when you get everything setup it is so good and really good for gtag but if you are getting the pro 2 get valve index controllers but the pro 2 is the best headset
@EPICXVR15 күн бұрын
If you still have the Vive Pro or Vive Pro Eye lying around there is a popular mod to swap the lenses with GearVR lenses, and the screens with Samsung Odyssey+ screens. Cuts down a ton on the glare and screen door effect.
@Razzy_III22 күн бұрын
Yeah i should have tried that! I have a gear vr
@josalt22 күн бұрын
The video I’ve been waiting for
@thebigm805223 күн бұрын
🥰
@josalt23 күн бұрын
@@josalt honestly can’t wait for more episodes
@thebigm805223 күн бұрын
I am using the htc vive for abt 4 years now and i did actually get used to the controllers. i absolutely love this headset and i cant imagine what would have been if i hadnt bought it.
@LowxyTheFox18 күн бұрын
Oh wow! And you still havent upgraded?
@josalt18 күн бұрын
@@josalt nope i didnt but listen. I just found a good deal yeaterday and im gonna pick up the vive pro 2 the day after tomorrow.
@LowxyTheFox17 күн бұрын
Haven't watched the full video but i had the og vive i bought it used in early 2019 and probably have close to 1k hrs in steamvr (steamvr server never closes so it says i have over 5k hrs) The base stations are still working fine i have them set to always on.
@freewings218819 күн бұрын
i have the oculus quest 2 with the link cable and its amazing its not bad i recomend for someone who wants to play pc vr you might has well just buy the link cable and you get a very good pcvr experience
@lasermonkGTOffical20 күн бұрын
can definitely vouch for the base stations being not the most reliable... one of them is broken so i can only look one way or i lose all tracking lmao. it works out for the games i play at least?
@aclv2718 күн бұрын
have you kept all the headsets from both oculus/meta and vive videos?
@dogboygamer68919 күн бұрын
i have a vive pro and i love it its comfy its well balanced the resolution is fine. but the controllers... they do they job (most times) but are not great any more. i want some knuckels but man there pricey. great vid btw
@jordy702817 күн бұрын
yeah agreed! Also thankyou!
@josalt16 күн бұрын
Great video Do you think og htc vive is good option to get to steam vr for cheap?
@pracalt105120 күн бұрын
Yeah definitely! Can upgrade to valve knuckle controllers later on!
@josalt20 күн бұрын
@@josalt alright thanks!
@pracalt105120 күн бұрын
this guy is all over my recommended doing literally everything W channel
@atti-tube17 күн бұрын
🥰🥰
@josalt16 күн бұрын
what how is this so underrated
@streetle23 күн бұрын
🥰
@josalt23 күн бұрын
wow just in time to be the 100th comment! im thinking of getting the valve index, reckon i can get one? or is it pretty tough since we live in australia
@ItzAngelPlayz_23 күн бұрын
They usually pop up on facebook marketplace all the time!
@josalt23 күн бұрын
@@josalt tysm!
@ItzAngelPlayz_23 күн бұрын
honestly that flip up headset feature looks cool so. often do i take my headset off and drink water/wipe off the condensation on the lens. flip up would make that so much faster
@MobiusGT22 күн бұрын
Maybe it would be on a smaller headset but its annoying on the cosmos. It doesnt flip all the way up and it impacts where the headset fits on your head. !
@josalt22 күн бұрын
@@josalt makes sense
@MobiusGT22 күн бұрын
This is amazing. I loved the Oculus one. This one's the same! I'm so jealous of you, lol.
@DiamondDepthYT24 күн бұрын
Thanks legend!
@josalt24 күн бұрын
deffinitly agree with your rating
@Iron_Soil23 күн бұрын
king of memes is here
@josalt23 күн бұрын
It's amazing how often you can screw up the micro on HMDs. So now not just with HTC HMDs but also with various others. Somehow, so far only Valve has managed to install a really good microphone🤔
@Killertamagotchi19 күн бұрын
Cool!
@MarcBossYT19 күн бұрын
This is really calming, I don't know why.
@pungenthuman23 күн бұрын
🥰
@josalt23 күн бұрын
finally, normal microphone on the focus 3
@maxxbbie6919 күн бұрын
Why aren't you more popular I love your videos❤
@a_corndog24 күн бұрын
too kind 🥰
@josalt23 күн бұрын
The editing is just getting better and better! Good job josalt!
@BLAHAJ_GAMING43124 күн бұрын
Thanks mate it means a lot
@josalt23 күн бұрын
i like the touchpad over any joystick, because you can be perfectly accurate on where you move your finger on the touchpad, unlike a joystick that is highly compacted and squished together so its harder to get an accurate position
@VHS_Serenity22 күн бұрын
Never heard that before. It drives me nuts for games with locomotion movement but to each there own!
@josalt22 күн бұрын
@josalt it can be a bit awkward at first, but it's very nice when you've used it for a couple hours around in the two digit mark (I might be a bit biased because I've used my original htc vive for 2800 hours... until it finally broke edleast)
@VHS_Serenity22 күн бұрын
Dog, what the heck happened with the pro eye microphone? That headset seems to suck in general, from the hand and eye tracking to the microphone, to even trying to buy it. Also i love the video!
@magentawool255621 күн бұрын
Lol yeah i didnt mind using it tbh but it could have been so much better
@josalt20 күн бұрын
I owned a Vive 1. I really wanted a Pro, but couldn't justify the price. I now own a Quest 3 and just either SteamLink play the Meta exclusives on that. I've never seen anything past the Pro, but I've heard of the Cosmos. HTC really couldn't hold up their quality past their second rendition and that's kinda sad.
@Why_It18 күн бұрын
another great video
@KacopFaint21 күн бұрын
Thanks again!
@josalt20 күн бұрын
Great video, can you do a video like this one but about the chinese vr headsets?
@Spaceworld-9520 күн бұрын
Id love to!
@josalt20 күн бұрын
this video makes me want to buy a pro 2, i love it
@AroGrooves23 күн бұрын
Yeah resolution is nuts but get big screen beyond haha
@josalt23 күн бұрын
damn bro finally uploaded
@MegabattleLop24 күн бұрын
Yeah i need to make some shorter videos
@josalt24 күн бұрын
the htc vive was my first headset i ever had, and now it is broken :( but edleast i have a quest 3 to replace it now
@VHS_Serenity23 күн бұрын
Quest 3 probably better haha
@josalt23 күн бұрын
im kinda confused dont they have the index too? (i know nothing about pcvr headsets)
@mistavr942023 күн бұрын
Not a HTC headset
@josalt23 күн бұрын
@@josalt oh
@mistavr942022 күн бұрын
peak as always
@SegaTitan24 күн бұрын
Thanks mate
@josalt24 күн бұрын
Lit Ong fr skibidi
@ItsSpeedyVR24 күн бұрын
nocap fr
@josalt24 күн бұрын
@@josaltfr fr? Nocap?
@ItsSpeedyVR24 күн бұрын
Awesome video, very informative! Seems like every HTC headset is way overpriced for what they're able to do, compared to Meta's headsets that can do everything the HTCs can do for much less money, just with lower resolutions. And they can't seem to be able to get the tracking down on their headsets that feature built in tracking quite like Meta can.
@JBeanus24 күн бұрын
Yeah they really seam to struggle in the engineering and software department
@josalt24 күн бұрын
39:48 That is called chromatic aberration and is in basically every vr headset. However, some headsets are better at making it less noticeable than others.
@techstuff333824 күн бұрын
Oo thats the word for it! I feel like the oculus headset have a lot less it gets extreme on the vive ones.
@josalt23 күн бұрын
@@josalt I agree. I have never tried a vive headset but I have tried some headsets from the same time. I have the quest 3 and it basically does not exist on there. You have to focus on it and change your perspective to see it. Thank goodness though, it was definitely something they needed to upgrade! Also nice vid, very interesting to see how vive has changed throughout the years!
@techstuff333819 күн бұрын
S tier video as always
@EnzoBergstrom23 күн бұрын
Thx!
@josalt23 күн бұрын
Vive Pro was HTCs last good HMD in my opinion lol. I've returned every other HTC Vive Product since then.
@Killswitch141121 күн бұрын
Yeah i would agree with that. They just completely lost it. I think valve basically made the vive and its all been downhill since then
@josalt20 күн бұрын
Did you buy the pro 2 and return that as well?
@brokenstring216 күн бұрын
@@josalt Is the pro 2 worth the upgrade? This video seemed to show it was. If "money wasnt an issue..."
@brokenstring216 күн бұрын
@@brokenstring21 I didn't, because of all the bad things I kept hearing about it.
@Killswitch14116 күн бұрын
this is super interesting stuff
@Boxled24 күн бұрын
Yeah there is so much stuff could have made the video like 3 hours long haha
@josalt24 күн бұрын
Wow. That's a lot of headsets. Didn't know they did that.
@bonelabguy123 күн бұрын
Niether haha
@josalt23 күн бұрын
Good day when josalt posts
@N0idea7620 күн бұрын
🥰
@josalt19 күн бұрын
could I have one my quest 2 just died like fully dead and I can repair it :(
@Ghostly149320 күн бұрын
I have a quest 2, but I would really want to have a vive pro 2 to get the best experiece. and the index controllers. but its kinda expensive tho that would be more than my computer with a rx 6800 32 gigs ram and a ryzen 7 5700x it would be fire tho
@KlokaUgglanLoL19 күн бұрын
seen the oculus video love your vids like these!
@KlokaUgglanLoL19 күн бұрын
you should try the microsoft tape (Windows mixed reality lenovo explorer held together by tape)
@stevenn11024 күн бұрын
Lol
@josalt23 күн бұрын
test the valve index im trying to get one but idk if its worth it
@MegabattleLop24 күн бұрын
It isn't. Don't get me wrong, it is a good headset, but it is massively outdated by this point. You'd be better off either waiting or just getting a quest 3. This is coming from someone that was very against using a quest for years, it's just hard to justify recommending or purchasing an index in 2024 when the quest 3 gives you better displays and 95% of the experience in every other area. Unless you can get an index for cheap, I can't say its worth it.
@notnicknamed24 күн бұрын
I should! Also heloo!
@josalt24 күн бұрын
@@josalt hi josalt
@MegabattleLop23 күн бұрын
this is the best youtuber ever
@user-no5wb2ke5f24 күн бұрын
🥰
@josalt24 күн бұрын
another banger. I have no idea how you can afford all these headsets though XD
@KawaiiRazorBlade24 күн бұрын
buying and re selling as i go through
@josalt24 күн бұрын
@@josalt smart!, did you keep any headsets by the end?
@KawaiiRazorBlade23 күн бұрын
Pimax next!
@redpen881024 күн бұрын
👀
@josalt24 күн бұрын
Review every Pico headset
@thatoneminecrafter294523 күн бұрын
Id love to
@josalt23 күн бұрын
Wow all these games on every headset look really good considering I only have a quest 2
@AubreyExists23 күн бұрын
PCVR is king haha
@josalt23 күн бұрын
vivefries would love this
@chippdbanjo20 күн бұрын
would he?
@josalt20 күн бұрын
You should make a video on phone vr headsets XD
@GamingBearYT24 күн бұрын
I should
@josalt24 күн бұрын
Do you have a Valve index
@Creepman5324 күн бұрын
Never used one! I want to tho
@josalt24 күн бұрын
one question, how did you afford all these headsets?
@jessicamartin211323 күн бұрын
Buying and selling them as i went
@josalt23 күн бұрын
You should buy every SteamVR headset after this! Index, Beyond, Pimax, etc
@RidgeXR_224 күн бұрын
There are so many 🤣 That would kill me
@josalt24 күн бұрын
14:08 ayeeee my MAN 😁🤝💀 dap me up dead husband
@Piespys8 күн бұрын
do windows mixed reality next
@J2grossplays12 күн бұрын
there are 12 i think 🤣 im broke
@josalt9 күн бұрын
Been sticking with my Pro Eye for 3 years now because nothings been worth upgrading to
@Razzy_III22 күн бұрын
Yeah that was an awesome headset!
@josalt22 күн бұрын
Do one video covering the valve index in 2024 please!
@spl12345s24 күн бұрын
I should
@josalt24 күн бұрын
@@josalt my man! Didn’t expect you to respond! I luv ur videos bro!
@spl12345s23 күн бұрын
I know it might not go viral as much but I would love to see a video like this from PSVR1 and PSVR2, even if there are only 2 of them hahaha
@nerddeku96759 күн бұрын
Actually sony made vrs before the psvr they connected to your TV or console the sony glasstron was the original but there were some other ones too
@Midnightthecatvr7 күн бұрын
It'd be interesting to see how that would go if he did make one
@Midnightthecatvr7 күн бұрын
@@Midnightthecatvr yes, since the PSVR1 has excellent exclusives and its light tracking is very interesting to see.
@nerddeku96757 күн бұрын
They make more headsets than games
@pzxel23 күн бұрын
yep
@josalt23 күн бұрын
wow
@Kilgorio20 күн бұрын
Dude probably get a two-bedroom house for all those headsets
@blake624821 күн бұрын
not quite haha
@josalt20 күн бұрын
w video love it
@rickymann779424 күн бұрын
🥰
@josalt23 күн бұрын
What about pimax headsets ?
@BFGINONE24 күн бұрын
id love to but is it even possible to buy them all?
@josalt23 күн бұрын
Bro did you forget your password 💀
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Been cooking 👩🍳
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7:23 HTC VEEV
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veeeeeev
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can i buy htc vive off you ??
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2024 and Quest 3 is still the only vaiable option for a decent VR headset for a decent price.
What about vives most popular headset? (The google cardboard)
A legend returns!
True
*They're BACK!*
@@ReeksofChees3 oh my god it’s ReeksofChees3
@@ReeksofChees3 when is next upload
Did not realize vive made so many headsets
Ikr!!
@@josaltbusiness version?!
And all of them are absolute garbage. Except the OG vive.
@@RabbitConfirmed says?
@@briwu @RabbitConfirmed
its wild how in like, 2016-2018 they were the kings of VR, with all the biggest youtubers hopping on the vive
Yep 140,000 sales, now its a ghost town
I don’t even know how a small content creator can spend so much on content this is such a good channel
I buy and sell them as i go along and thanks! Thats nice of you to say!
@@josalt also do you have a discord server?
@@DeckDive discord.com/invite/7yyNUmGwxC
I had no idea the OG Vive had a pass through cam! Wow, that's very ahead of its time.
Yeah crazy! Valve know there stuff
i have the OG vive and i didn't know either... i mean i see the cam on the device but i forget about it and dont know how to turn it on lmao
Been a while 🤪 Discord: discord.com/invite/7yyNUmGwxC X: twitter.com/josaltvr?lang=en
Finally someone actually recognizes the other Vive headsets besides the OG Vive.
This was a Great Video! Really shows how Vive relied on Valve for the original Vive.
Thanks that's so nice of you to say!
>Gets to vive pro eye, doesn't use it for anything other than neos (it can be used for eye tracking in VRchat, ChilloutVR, and Resonite aka neos's successor), doesn't use face tracker addon (understandable, those are harder to get than the pro eye itself these days, also isn't bundled with the pro eye) >Still puts it at top of list :o
man, you just do the best vr content, like, just keep going please
This was such a wonderfully done video. I started on the og vive and I hold a lot of nostalgia for it. VR was just so new and exciting at the time. The music choice especially in the video was so perfect. Slow gentle ambience, it reminds me a lot of VR back in the day. I don’t quite know how to describe it. Thankyou for investing your time into going through each vive headset, after the og vive I went to the index and never got to tryout a lot of htc’s other offerings.
Wow, thank you so much for the kind words! Yeah early VR those were the days. It was so cool. No one knew exactly what it would turn into. Yeah you arent missing out on much haha i think index is better then every vive headset
excellent video. underrated channel. i can only imagine i found this because i started using my vive again to compare it to quest 3. keep it up man
Much appreciated!
Great video! Just FYI, the Vive Pro 2 has a big rang of other issues. Just like the Focus 3 (same optical design), it oversaturates colors, so that they look completely wrong. On top of that, the stereo overlap is eye strain inducing, as it is at 70° or sth, compared to the 90° of the Vive Pro. Also, it dynamically reduces brightness to reduce heat, and if you turn this awful feature off, the headset overheats to the point of the displays breaking.
Yeah i dohnt know what HTC are doing... I didnt run into those issues but i loved the pro !
My first headset was the HTC vive that I had for about 5 years and played hl:a and boneworks at that time. At some point in time, I switched the vive controllers with the index ones before doing a full switch to the valve index. Switching between the two is a massive improvement
I still playing vr on first htc vive and this headset is still compatible with new games (except Bonelab , this game needs valve controllers which I already bought) , so it shows that first htc vive is very good headset
Yeah its still very usable in 2024 which is nuts.
@@josalt I'm still using an original vive, after watching this video I'm thinking about upgrading my headset to a vive pro 2, as the screen door effect of the original is annoying.
been waiting for this one!
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Oh,finally some good VR content. This is history of VR,good to know what we came from,and what we came through
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Awesome comparison between all the HTC headsets! I had the original HTC Vive, bought it used. Kept it a few years then sold it maybe 2 years ago. I ended up getting a Pimax Crystal after building a much beefier PC to support the resolution. I'll say the resolution of the HTC Vive was low enough my old gaming laptop could drive it just fine. But man, the screen door effect was always present. I like flight sims, and reading the gauges was always difficult unless you got up close. So I waited until a much higher res HMD came along where that wouldn't be such an issue, thus the Crystal. I knew HTC made quite a few headsets, but didn't realize they made 11! My first Android phone was a HTC DROID Incredible, good little phone.
i was actually searching up the history of vive with all the vive headsets and there werent any vids about them, UNTIL NOW! TYSM!
Thanks for the nice words
dude this video is amazing ur channel is so underrated
I appreciate that!
FINALLY I WUZ WAITIN FOR THIS VID
Love this video! Would love to see it done with other variations of headsets, like Oculus for example. Heck, even with other devices (like Gaming consoles) I think a series similar to this would be super entertaining.
He did it with Oculus too
your video's are so much fun to watch. i learned some cool things from this video, even though i have no headset (my family is poor). i normally get bored from 30 minute video's, but i never got bored of this one.
Thanks for the kind words
this guys awesome just honest opinions and solid reviews 🔥🔥
Thanks legend
Nice vid, you demonstrate why HTC has a confusing line up. I had no idea they had so many different versions of the Vive. Have you tried the PSVR2?
Yep way too many haha. Nah never tired psvr. I want to though
7:24 I love the HTC Veev
VEEEEEV
I love this series!
Thanks mate!
@@josalt I remember when the oculus video came out and i loved it, keep up the amazing work =)
I have Covid and didn't notice this video was an hour long, thank you for keeping me distracted 😆
Get well soon!
This really feels like a labor of love video and I love it!
hey josalt how do you feel about the rift and vive screen looks like? are they almost the same? just the overall experience not the small detail different. i got a vive kit without link box so i can't see it myself but i do have a working rift kit
Amazing video showing the evolution of vive, I wonder what the future of their headsets will look like.
Thanks!! It's not looking good lol they will probably pivot to something else
Nice informative video mate. I've owned 3x Vive headsets over the last 5yrs; OG Cosmos, Vive Pro1, and XR Elite. My OG Cosmos has been packed away a long time ago thanks to poor tracking. My Preordered XR Elite went back for a refund because I never could get wireless PCVR to work as well as my Quest Pro. Too bad, because it was nice and comfy. I still have and use my +4.5yo VP1 (with 2x2.0 base stations, Etsy Gear VR lens mod, and Index controllers). This headset still works well and night flying in sims like msfs2020 and playing darkish games is very nice. However, the SDE is a lot more than I'd like and even with a lot of super sampling thanks to my rtx4090, the clarity is nowhere near as good as my QPro and Q3. I never bothered getting a VP2 because of its lack of oled, together with fresnel lens that could not be upgraded like my VP1 w/Etsy lens mod. Maybe wishful thinking but I'm hoping in the near future to see a Vive Pro3 with high res micro-oled screens and pancake lens. Also hopefully in a bit smaller form factor. If Vive doesn't come out with something like this I think that their days in PCVR may likely be coming to an end. Time will tell I guess. Anyway, thanks again for your vid mate and best cheers from the GC.
I have the HTC vive pro 2 and when you get everything setup it is so good and really good for gtag but if you are getting the pro 2 get valve index controllers but the pro 2 is the best headset
If you still have the Vive Pro or Vive Pro Eye lying around there is a popular mod to swap the lenses with GearVR lenses, and the screens with Samsung Odyssey+ screens. Cuts down a ton on the glare and screen door effect.
Yeah i should have tried that! I have a gear vr
The video I’ve been waiting for
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@@josalt honestly can’t wait for more episodes
I am using the htc vive for abt 4 years now and i did actually get used to the controllers. i absolutely love this headset and i cant imagine what would have been if i hadnt bought it.
Oh wow! And you still havent upgraded?
@@josalt nope i didnt but listen. I just found a good deal yeaterday and im gonna pick up the vive pro 2 the day after tomorrow.
Haven't watched the full video but i had the og vive i bought it used in early 2019 and probably have close to 1k hrs in steamvr (steamvr server never closes so it says i have over 5k hrs) The base stations are still working fine i have them set to always on.
i have the oculus quest 2 with the link cable and its amazing its not bad i recomend for someone who wants to play pc vr you might has well just buy the link cable and you get a very good pcvr experience
can definitely vouch for the base stations being not the most reliable... one of them is broken so i can only look one way or i lose all tracking lmao. it works out for the games i play at least?
have you kept all the headsets from both oculus/meta and vive videos?
i have a vive pro and i love it its comfy its well balanced the resolution is fine. but the controllers... they do they job (most times) but are not great any more. i want some knuckels but man there pricey. great vid btw
yeah agreed! Also thankyou!
Great video Do you think og htc vive is good option to get to steam vr for cheap?
Yeah definitely! Can upgrade to valve knuckle controllers later on!
@@josalt alright thanks!
this guy is all over my recommended doing literally everything W channel
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what how is this so underrated
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wow just in time to be the 100th comment! im thinking of getting the valve index, reckon i can get one? or is it pretty tough since we live in australia
They usually pop up on facebook marketplace all the time!
@@josalt tysm!
honestly that flip up headset feature looks cool so. often do i take my headset off and drink water/wipe off the condensation on the lens. flip up would make that so much faster
Maybe it would be on a smaller headset but its annoying on the cosmos. It doesnt flip all the way up and it impacts where the headset fits on your head. !
@@josalt makes sense
This is amazing. I loved the Oculus one. This one's the same! I'm so jealous of you, lol.
Thanks legend!
deffinitly agree with your rating
king of memes is here
It's amazing how often you can screw up the micro on HMDs. So now not just with HTC HMDs but also with various others. Somehow, so far only Valve has managed to install a really good microphone🤔
Cool!
This is really calming, I don't know why.
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finally, normal microphone on the focus 3
Why aren't you more popular I love your videos❤
too kind 🥰
The editing is just getting better and better! Good job josalt!
Thanks mate it means a lot
i like the touchpad over any joystick, because you can be perfectly accurate on where you move your finger on the touchpad, unlike a joystick that is highly compacted and squished together so its harder to get an accurate position
Never heard that before. It drives me nuts for games with locomotion movement but to each there own!
@josalt it can be a bit awkward at first, but it's very nice when you've used it for a couple hours around in the two digit mark (I might be a bit biased because I've used my original htc vive for 2800 hours... until it finally broke edleast)
Dog, what the heck happened with the pro eye microphone? That headset seems to suck in general, from the hand and eye tracking to the microphone, to even trying to buy it. Also i love the video!
Lol yeah i didnt mind using it tbh but it could have been so much better
I owned a Vive 1. I really wanted a Pro, but couldn't justify the price. I now own a Quest 3 and just either SteamLink play the Meta exclusives on that. I've never seen anything past the Pro, but I've heard of the Cosmos. HTC really couldn't hold up their quality past their second rendition and that's kinda sad.
another great video
Thanks again!
Great video, can you do a video like this one but about the chinese vr headsets?
Id love to!
this video makes me want to buy a pro 2, i love it
Yeah resolution is nuts but get big screen beyond haha
damn bro finally uploaded
Yeah i need to make some shorter videos
the htc vive was my first headset i ever had, and now it is broken :( but edleast i have a quest 3 to replace it now
Quest 3 probably better haha
im kinda confused dont they have the index too? (i know nothing about pcvr headsets)
Not a HTC headset
@@josalt oh
peak as always
Thanks mate
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Awesome video, very informative! Seems like every HTC headset is way overpriced for what they're able to do, compared to Meta's headsets that can do everything the HTCs can do for much less money, just with lower resolutions. And they can't seem to be able to get the tracking down on their headsets that feature built in tracking quite like Meta can.
Yeah they really seam to struggle in the engineering and software department
39:48 That is called chromatic aberration and is in basically every vr headset. However, some headsets are better at making it less noticeable than others.
Oo thats the word for it! I feel like the oculus headset have a lot less it gets extreme on the vive ones.
@@josalt I agree. I have never tried a vive headset but I have tried some headsets from the same time. I have the quest 3 and it basically does not exist on there. You have to focus on it and change your perspective to see it. Thank goodness though, it was definitely something they needed to upgrade! Also nice vid, very interesting to see how vive has changed throughout the years!
S tier video as always
Thx!
Vive Pro was HTCs last good HMD in my opinion lol. I've returned every other HTC Vive Product since then.
Yeah i would agree with that. They just completely lost it. I think valve basically made the vive and its all been downhill since then
Did you buy the pro 2 and return that as well?
@@josalt Is the pro 2 worth the upgrade? This video seemed to show it was. If "money wasnt an issue..."
@@brokenstring21 I didn't, because of all the bad things I kept hearing about it.
this is super interesting stuff
Yeah there is so much stuff could have made the video like 3 hours long haha
Wow. That's a lot of headsets. Didn't know they did that.
Niether haha
Good day when josalt posts
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could I have one my quest 2 just died like fully dead and I can repair it :(
I have a quest 2, but I would really want to have a vive pro 2 to get the best experiece. and the index controllers. but its kinda expensive tho that would be more than my computer with a rx 6800 32 gigs ram and a ryzen 7 5700x it would be fire tho
seen the oculus video love your vids like these!
you should try the microsoft tape (Windows mixed reality lenovo explorer held together by tape)
Lol
test the valve index im trying to get one but idk if its worth it
It isn't. Don't get me wrong, it is a good headset, but it is massively outdated by this point. You'd be better off either waiting or just getting a quest 3. This is coming from someone that was very against using a quest for years, it's just hard to justify recommending or purchasing an index in 2024 when the quest 3 gives you better displays and 95% of the experience in every other area. Unless you can get an index for cheap, I can't say its worth it.
I should! Also heloo!
@@josalt hi josalt
this is the best youtuber ever
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another banger. I have no idea how you can afford all these headsets though XD
buying and re selling as i go through
@@josalt smart!, did you keep any headsets by the end?
Pimax next!
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Review every Pico headset
Id love to
Wow all these games on every headset look really good considering I only have a quest 2
PCVR is king haha
vivefries would love this
would he?
You should make a video on phone vr headsets XD
I should
Do you have a Valve index
Never used one! I want to tho
one question, how did you afford all these headsets?
Buying and selling them as i went
You should buy every SteamVR headset after this! Index, Beyond, Pimax, etc
There are so many 🤣 That would kill me
14:08 ayeeee my MAN 😁🤝💀 dap me up dead husband
do windows mixed reality next
there are 12 i think 🤣 im broke
Been sticking with my Pro Eye for 3 years now because nothings been worth upgrading to
Yeah that was an awesome headset!
Do one video covering the valve index in 2024 please!
I should
@@josalt my man! Didn’t expect you to respond! I luv ur videos bro!
I know it might not go viral as much but I would love to see a video like this from PSVR1 and PSVR2, even if there are only 2 of them hahaha
Actually sony made vrs before the psvr they connected to your TV or console the sony glasstron was the original but there were some other ones too
It'd be interesting to see how that would go if he did make one
@@Midnightthecatvr yes, since the PSVR1 has excellent exclusives and its light tracking is very interesting to see.
They make more headsets than games
yep
wow
Dude probably get a two-bedroom house for all those headsets
not quite haha
w video love it
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What about pimax headsets ?
id love to but is it even possible to buy them all?
Bro did you forget your password 💀
Been cooking 👩🍳
7:23 HTC VEEV
veeeeeev
can i buy htc vive off you ??
2024 and Quest 3 is still the only vaiable option for a decent VR headset for a decent price.
Pretty much haha