Sugar Ray Robinson - 128-1 - P4P The Greatest (Original Documentary)
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Sugar Ray Robinson is regarded by most as pound for pound the greatest boxer ever. At one point he held a remarkable record of 128 and 1. A 6 time world champion, he fought for over 25 years. Experience the knockouts, the rivalries with the Raging Bull Jake Lamotta, the comebacks, the history...and everything in between. This original documentary examines everything available on the career of Sugar Ray Robinson.
Voice Over Narration by:
Andrew Scott
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I waited nearly 2 years for this documentary thank you brother 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Fr nobody does it like joe Vincent. NOBODY. Just started it now I’m like a kid in a candy shop lol
@@Boxingdiehard Joe Vincent Is Your Favorite
@@tyreepowell8367 most definitely! The best sports docs on KZhead
This is what I been looking for also
@@Boxingdiehard literally watched every video. Def the best your gonna find.
This man stated that he did not even like or enjoy Boxing. It was just Business for him... Imagine the discipline it takes to excel to the top of something you don't enjoy?
To feed his family, it’s the hurt business
Even better that he didn’t enjoy it because that allowed him to focus better and push beyond pain. When you do things for enjoyment you tend to stop when things stop becoming enjoyable. You don’t fight as long as he did without pushing through a lot of pain.
At 22:16 those punch combo ray did to his opponent WOW
Hey Mike did you get the check? -SRR
Not entirely true. He was being polite and diplomatic. If he said he enjoyed hurting people he would have faced a hostile public reaction. I'm sure he enjoyed boxing, he also possibly hated hurting people, sometimes u enjoy something, a mixture of emotions.
A movie needs to be made about this legendary fighter.
Facts
Please
A long time ago!
@@yaantsudnbesdai972 No, I haven't. I will check it out, thanks
I believe they don’t do it since there isn’t much recorded fights and most of them recorded are just short videos
The crazy thing is most people don’t understand how great he was. The speed, timing, accuracy, power.. truly untouchable..
Boxing people recognize it.
@@jimy2x My family were old-school boxing promoters and grew up around and in the ring. Pound for pound, Sugar Ray Robinson is regarded as the best by insiders.. Are you jealous of me or something?
@@jimy2x Your personal attack on me and the fact you don't sh-- about boxing and obviously an outsider.
@@asturiasceltic3183 lunatic
@@asturiasceltic3183 lunatic liar
He died in 1989, he was a true walking legend. RIP SRR.
The saddest thing, the footage we have is when he wasn't in his prime. So imagine if we got his real prime, If Ali is King Sugar is the Emperor
Yes mate, near 10yrs missing...l blv if we had that footage.. there'd be no argument. Fancy having to move up cos uve beaten everyone in Ur weight div...in the world! Edit: sometimes more than once.
Ali was basically a heavyweight SRR his whole style was mimicked in part from SRR
He was in his prime, folks just always make it seem like prime is the fights when youre beating bums. Tyson for example.
And floyd is GOAT
Floyd mayweather jr that is
129-1 not 128-1 He had three unbeaten streaks: 89-0 as an amateur, 40-0 before losing to Jake LaMotta, and went 129-1 before his second loss 202 fights and 89 amateur fights BUT not once did he ever got knocked out. That's the chin and defense of one of the deadliest punchers boxing has ever seen.
128-1-2. But yes, 129 is also correct if you include the 1 no contest. He's usually known as 85-0 at amateurs but probably over 130 fights with at least 2 losses. 40-0 in his first 2 years as a professional. Then went 89-0-2, 55 KO's (90-0-2) in his next 92 assignment after the LaMotta lose.
I thought he lost more times than that?
@@KJ-kh2mo He was talking about the peak record, not the overall career record.
That's dope
I'm an MMA guy so I'll admit I'm a boxing casual can you name some of the power punches ray Robinson fought for me? I don't have time to watch this right now
My grandfather saw a ton of live boxing from the 1930s to the 1970s, saw a lot of fighters. He said no one was better than Robinson. He only wished he was a middleweight sooner in his career.
We really need a movie about him while people who may still remember who he was is still around.
As long as there is boxing, he will ALWAYS be remembered! P4P was literally created because of him. Lmao. You're a funny guy.
@@SteelerzReignSupremeII no he won’t. Go poll new boxing fans, see how much they know about Robinson.
From Scotland in UK - My late father always said Sugar Ray Robinson was best fighter pound for pound in the World and titles he had at the different weights was unusual and this guy proved he was best of all time .
My deepest regret in my boxing life is not being able to witness Sugar Ray’s career while it unfolded.
It was a sad moment in history at that time. WW2.
Horrible time to be alive, your statement couldnt have been dumber
You wouldn’t wanna be alive back then buddy
Wtf are you even talking about
@@goat2559why
Man, I am so grateful I can see the greatness in the comfort of my home. Society may be fucked up, but thank God for those documentaries. I was amateur boxer in my teenage years and Ray, Ali and Dempsey were my biggest inspirations and I started boxing because of them. I will never stop loving boxing, such a wonderful sport.
Well sir, you picked all three of my favourites. Great great fighters all. 🥊👊🏾✊🏽
Your profile has the drug addict orange dude from GTA San Andreas
:D
So Very True ........For What U Say ............... All These Guys Back Then .... Seemed Liked Very Honorable And Humble Champs
Yes,of course ❤!
He is, by some distance I might add, the GREATEST fighter to ever live. If there is ONE consensus GOAT pound for pound in boxing, most fighters, dead or alive, most boxing historians, dead or alive, most boxing analysts, dead or alive, would at a 90% clip vote for Sugar Ray Robinson. I could see a few votes going to Ali, or Willie Pep, or a few others, but Sugar Ray Robinson would get, BY FAR, most of the votes. His defense, his reflexes, his hand-eye coordination and timing, his balance proprioception (he could knock you out off his back foot moving backwards, a rare gift), power, speed, an iron chin, endurance, amazing footwork, genius level boxing IQ. He is the one fighter who, with modern training, nutrition and pharmacology would BREAK today's social media if he fought today because he was that gifted. A once in a lifetime fighter who, at his peak, is the closest thing boxing will ever get to unbeatable. The undisputed GOAT of boxing, SRR. Great work Joe, another classic.
Hardly anyone outside of real boxing fans know who sugar Ray Robinson was. He was a big name in his day. Why a major movie hasn't been made is puzzling 🤔
Well, his real life persona was lightly touched on in Raging Bull, which is the movie about Jake LaMotta.
Agree, they need a great cast and really do him justice..The greatest pound for pound, not worth the time baffles me..Says a lot about the general public and Hollywood...
I knew about him because my family were boxing promoters. And Sugar Ray Robinson is indeed regarded as the best.
@@asturiasceltic3183 liar
Unfortunately theres a lot of casuals in boxing nowadays.
In 13:06 Mike Tyson perfectly sums up the magnitude of greatness that can be found in boxing's rich history "..There's some monsters in the past, you know, they put people like me in check. They put our egos in check.." And among all these monsters, Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest.
Literal art in motion. The name Sugar Ray Robinson will never be forgotten.
Two weeks late to my feed! My first-generation uncle fought Sugar Ray during WW2. The great news: He didn't get killed, KO or severely injured during the bout. The bad news: He sustained permanent injury during the WAR. That ended his aspiring pro career/potential. I'm so extremely proud of my uncle - in every possible way!! He became a genuinely loving family man, as well as an upstanding role for any man. He was all heart, soul and power.
Wow that's amazing,.
@@elialeiba1344 Thanks!!!!! :) Yeah, it's not every day that a girl finds out that her first-generation uncle actually fought THE boxing icon of all time! I'm extremely proud of him!! :) I didn't consciously realize it, but I probably used some of that inherent grit in my own individual training. He's my blood.
Definitely something to be proud of! I have respect for anyone who steps through the ropes(because its one of the most dangerous jobs to do!)even the less gifted ones! But having someone in ur family who fought the greatest ' Prizefighter' of all time,is something entirely different! 5 ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐..
@@jerryoshea3116 Thanks!! But I believe my uncle was gifted/talented. He didn't have anywhere near the experience Sugar Ray had when he fought him. He unfortunately ended up with a permanent injury from fighting in the war - not from fighting the most dangerous man in the most dangerous sport!! I'm very proud of him, but I feel bad that he had to let go of his initial ambitions.
@@elisabeth4342 Yes it was a totally different time(especially in certain fields and in so many Sports)And sure u have seen improvement in certain areas,but I'm of the mindset,if someone was good then,they'll be good now! And I don't care about how Big people are now,Boxing and 'Prizefighting' is mostly about Skills(Training hard) having a good Chin,good skin,strong Bones and a ❤️! .But it ur Uncle had no choice but to join the Military,so unfortunately that was the path destiny had laid out for him,but to say u once fought the Best P4P fighter ever is some achievement!
Definitely the in-ring GOAT. Even inspired ali and his footwork.
And outside as well, one of the first black fighters that inspired the kings of all eras
100% correct.
I hate when ppl bring how many fightsz he had when tryn make a case for the goat
@@mauricejones2076 why?
Ali was basically a heavyweight SRR
The most complete Fighter ever , a true warrior and a great Man R.I.P Sugar Ray
most complete how he fought novices you need to watch matches
@@ascendediam Jake Lamotta,Marcel Cerdan, Gene Fullmer, Rocky Graziano, Bobo Olson, Randolph Turpin are not novices , you are the one who needs to watch boxing
@miguelgabrielm.bulado2477 no they were compared to the average 70s fighter my video shows that so stop trolling
@@ascendediam Different Era , the 70s take a lot of boxing tips and techniques from the 40-50s , Especially Muhammad Ali idolized Sugar Ray Robinson style.
@@miguelgabrielm.bulado2477 so if the 70s took tech and advanced them that means ray wasnt the most complete right?
The definition of a natural, he was born to box, but his dedication and hard work immortalized him🥊
A Titan, no attitude just all heart, strength, determination, incredible skill and an artist on the canvas..The Champ and the greatest on so many levels....Ali was no fool in trying to emulate him in the heavyweight division...
An artist on the canvas I like that
Once again Joe knocks it out of the park . Nobody does it like Joe Vincent outstanding work sir
Yh
Thank you Joseph Vincent. You helped me through a tough time as a teen now I am a boxer by the grace of god. Everything you’ve showed us from the greats is coming full circle
Ref carrying his opponent to the corner is insane
he probably had a bet on him
When current fighters talk about being undefeated for 30 fights or even 50 fights in their whole career is nearly meaningless to me. That's just business. Sugar Ray Robinson had sometimes two fights a week. With a record like that a few losses takes nothing from a man's record it only solidifies it's greatness. Now THIS man is what I consider a real FIGHTER.
Especially cause it's a manufactured zero. Carefully put together by their promoters.
Sugar ray robinson was the goat henry Armstrong Harry greb wernt no slouches either pound for pound easily the best boxer ever
I think after his one and only loss to Jake La'mata, he fought and won the first rematch something like 2 weeks later or something crazy. Imagine the injuries both fighters had after the first fight, and fighting with them same half healed injuries 2 weeks later. Crazy tough men of a different era.
Yeah but a lot of them fights had ppl that had no business being in the same ring as Sugar Ray
@@jaydenhill9101 fight purses weren't anywhere near what they are now. If you want to get PAID you got to put in work. If the money was available to do one superfight every 3 years you better believe anyone would take it and avoid the head trauma.
Finally. 🐐. My grandfather used to tell me stories about this guy, he was just unbelievable.
His uppercuts followed by left hook is a thing of beauty.
We English fans have a fond respect for this king.
The greatest pound-for-pound. I was thrilled when I in the eighties had written him in L.A. and a few weeks later recieved an autographed photo from him.
Nooo wayy!! You're sooo lucky
First P4P fighter! Man his left hook was so sweet and so devastating my goodness. Definitely my favorite fighter of all time. Been waiting for this video for a while!!!
I hate when ppl bring how many fightsz he had when tryn make a case for the goat
Yea mate.. that left hook was lightning!!
finally a documentary on the GOAT, probably the first on KZhead. thanks mr. Vincent for keeping his name alive, he is my favorite boxer of all times.
This documentary is extremely well put together considering the limited footage available for a man with such an immense fight record. Well done.
these documentaries are always just on another level
Ray Robinson was the SUGAR in the SWEET SCIENCE! I am happy that others are finally able to witness what the rest of us have known for half a century: That there was one man that was blessed over all others to be the greatest and thus most complete boxer in history! He is the measuring stick by which all others will be measured!
Thank you for this excellent film. Now I know why he is called the best pound for pound boxer ever. A title truly deserved.
a perfect Role model
I love the ominous beat throughout the mini documentary. Sugar Ray Robinson was and still the Best of All Time.
The timing of this, I always wanted a sugar ray Robinson doc from you and now I can watch it and tomorrow I'm gonna have my amateur debut...the timing.
Good luck man let us know how it goes!!! We're rooting for ya!
Howd it go??
You lost
Sugar Ray Robinson was the Legend of the Legends
He ran out of opponents in the US and put his title on the line SIX times in less than TWO months all across Europe. Ladies and gentlemen, fighters like this don't exist anymore. He was beautiful.🎉
Absolutely not. Different times
@@Thecoochincanoocheecreek fantastic times no doubt. Sure, I am grateful for the progress we've made in civilisation but it's softened everybody up to a ridiculous level
His first three losses were to a Jake Lamotta who had 19 pounds on him (went on to avenge this loss 5 times), Randolph Turpin which he avenged that loss and a light heavyweight fight against Joey Maxim that drained him with the excessive heat of 104 degrees in a hard fight which he was 2 rounds away from winning. This man was truly remarkable and that’s why he’s my favorite boxer of all time
Yeah he was 5-1 against LaMotta too
@@Quadzilla99 that’s what I said
I would like to see a documentary about Larry Holmes. He is the most underrated champion of all time.
He deserves to be underated, he's not a nice human being
@@tramp2892 The reason I don’t like Larry Holmes is partly because once he said, that Parkinson and thyroid medication are all excuses of Ali’s loss to him… He think he whooped Ali fair and square.
@@yuanyi827 He is kinda right. Muhammad Ali was a little hypocrite when knowing that he was out of his prime and sick yet still willed to fight Holmes just to make excuses about being sick and taking meds before the fight. Like, if he knew that he was not in condition of fighting, them why in hell he accepted the challenge, and more specifically, why he made those excuses if he already entered the ring by his own will knowing so.
He was never a nice person. He said Trevor Berbick deserves to be murdered. And Rocky couldn't carry his jocks. He deserves to be underated
@@tramp2892 Tyson literally said that he TRIED to kill Berbick but nobody cares, right? And yes, Rocky is nowhere close to Holmes. He took 9 rounds to KO fatass ancient Archie Moore, the same Archie Moore who 1 year later got almost one punch KOed by a novice Floyd Patterson. There's a reason Rocky never came off his retirement to fight the late 50's generation, he knew his legacy would be over at the same moment.
P4P The Greatest. My favorite fighter of all time.
He's built a different. He looked younger than most of his contenders even when he had a decade on them.
I thought I knew how great this man was I knew nothing thank you for educating me. He is truly the GOAT
This man never disappoints. He’s so underrated. Keep up the good work!
Underrated how?? Ever since he retired till this day in every boxing pound for pound list of the greatest fighters that ever lived he's always number one. Every boxing historical list has him as number one. Your living under a rock buddy.
@@alainhernandez8767 he's talking about Joe Vincent. Smdh try not to be so ignorant.
@@alainhernandez8767 think he's talking about the channel mate! Not Sugar Ray Robinson.
@@gutz323 I’m talking about Joe Vincent
@@Trekzity yes I know! that is what I said.
The way Grazianos leg was twitching at 18:14....and was still trying to fight.....just wow those guys were just built different back then...pure grit.
The Greatest fighter to ever walk the planet earth.
He should not have dodged Charley Burley though.
hah! So you say! I guess you never heard of Joe Louis or Muhammad Ali LOL
@@giantatt25 Both who literally call SRR the Greatest ever
@@huginmunin8253who’s that tho no one no’s him…
@@angelz09100 well those that know more about boxing knows who he is, and he is one of the greatest of all time and he beat Archie Moore and Moore called him the greatest ever with some other boxers. He is probebly the most avoided boxer of all time and the most underrated of all time. Eddie Futch said about him, "the finest all-around fighter I ever saw." and he trained some really good fighters and is a hall of fame trainer.
The fact that he basically did a world tour is amazing. Most US fighters today only fight in the US and may venture outside of the country once or twice in their career. Robison is still the P4P greatest.
R.I.P Sugar Ray Robinson The Best of The Best of All Time
I wholeheartedly agree with the old man who said “Ray Robinson is in the top, at the cuspid of Mount Olympus, Ali and company are one slot below” Many thanks for this great tribute to the greatest boxer who ever lived. This man fought 15 rounds in two divisions filled with ferocious fighters, today fighters are gassing out after only 3 rounds. One just have to look at his record to see that he was indeed the greatest. The original and only real “Sugar”
There will NEVER be another SRR. The greatest fighter to ever BREATHE. Could you imagine if we had his prime on tape? With all the angles we have of fighters fights now? Social media wouldn’t be able to handle it. Thanks Joesph for the video. Incredible as always.
Not only was Sugar Ray Robinson such a legendary force in and out of the ring, he was ahead of his time in so many ways that when timeless greats like the “The Greatest” Muhammed Ali and the “Brown Bomber” Joe Louis both made their iconic remarks about his Robinson’s unbelievably gift as pound for pound the best of all time, there really is no other contender for that position! Robinson was in a ring of his own! Sugar Ray was the best! Not only was his remarkable combination of both finesse and toughness undeniable, he really set the tone for the ages in this sport! Thank you for this post!
Finally he gets his documentary The goat that was lost in history SRR🥹
#1 Sugar Ray Robinson #2 Joe Louis Undoubtedly the two greatest boxers of all time
#3 Roberto duran?
Oh man what a treat!! Most talented accomplished boxer of all time 🥊
he had everything...rhythm, beauty and explosive power
Bro is a true legend. Wish I was alive to see Ray in his prime. Thank you for everything.
Its almost like christmas when joe puts a new one out each time. Thanks for the Sugar Show, Joe!
The wait is finally over! THANK YOU JOSEPH!👏
“There’s a monster that comes out of me in the ring. I think it goes back to the days when I had nothing. It’s hunger. I think that’s what the monster is, and it’s still there.”
Sugar Ray worked them Jabs beautifully and he always had very good angles during Boxing matches. I see why people say his Boxing IQ was off the charts.
When I saw him dance, I was shocked at first, but it makes sense now why he moves so well. He is so powerful and so graceful. It should be required viewing
The best ever. Thank you for the documentary 😁
Finally you made this ! Thank you :) Ray was something else. Everybody who loves boxing need to know more about this legend.
The Video we have all been waiting for. The GOAT🐐.
I hate when ppl bring how many fightsz he had when tryn make a case for the goat
Some of those POWERFUL overhand rights are RIDICULOUS!! Some of those statistics were crazy! Lol Fighting 6 title defense fights in 2 MONTHS! The fact SRR moved up in class to fight Lamotta, whom had 19lbs on Sugar… The fact they had 15 ROUNDS in a title fight.. lol What a fighter!
This is honestly like watching basketball players back in the days the sport has evolved so much since then. Modern boxing has seriously evolved since this time but sugar ray robinson is one of the fathers of boxing that taught the generations after him
Well worth the wait for a video on this legend. Joe Vincent never disappoints
YES! I’ve been waiting for this one! I actually was caught off guard by this one… I think I love you 🥺
I forgot to add he was such a humble man as well.
Didn’t even like fighting, thought it was barbaric. Amazing!
Not according to Basillio. He was walking with his wife one day when he saw SRR pull up in his pink Cadillac. Carmen thought him arrogant.
@@dpimpernell4050 That’s a bias opinion. They were fighters who fought each other and we know how fighters can dislike each other even after boxing. Carmen probably felt some type of way after getting that tail whooped!
I heard that more often than not he was truly an "egomaniac"...
@@pancho6255 😂😂😂 he also beat the shit out of his wife.
Thank you so much for making this.
Absolute legend. Truly one of a kind human being! Another great video, thank you. How tough was Lamotta though? Lived to 95!? What the deuce?
Another great video Joe vincent. Sitting here at work on my lunch break watching this work of art. Pleasssssse if you could(before LeBron James break the record), do a full video on Kareem Abdul Jabar. These young kids don't understand how a center his size can when win on every level. Kareem led his high school team to three straight championships, an astonishing 71 game winning streak with a 79-2 overall record and finished 2067 points. In his legendary career, he nearly went undefeated in college, playing a critical role in the John Wooden-era dynasty at UCLA and winning three national championships in as many years. During his entire career with the Bucks and Los Angeles Lakers, Abdul-Jabbar won six NBA championships and six regular season MVP awards (most in NBA history), along with two NBA Finals MVPs. During his 14 years with the Lakers, he led the team in scoring a club-record 11 straight seasons. He is truly the goat in basketball.
Thank you so much for this one man, much awaited!!
Yur ability to find these pieces of footage, interviews about the fights, and the audio to go with the fights is simply amazingly impressive
Another masterpiece. Thank you.
Been waiting for this one for ages, great work as always!!
Thank you! This was another classic from the documentary king!
And thank you for finally making this one I've been waiting and yall never dissapoint!!!
I wonder what he’d be like with modern boxing knowledge, techniques, drills, and training facilities. He’s already a beast but he’d become a monster out of this world.
SRR would probably never lose a fight in today's boxing because they only fight 1-2 times a year he did double that back in his prime with little rest time and rarely lost
Maybe his opponents benefit more from that. He may lose some of his advantage if all that was available to all, is what I'm saying.
It would only be possible if you could transport the mentality and hardship from those times. Men were built differently back then I believe.
@@slayerrocks2 boxing didn't evolve as much as some people make it out to be so no, Robinson will definitely benefit more
@Remy Havoc I bow to your peer-reviewed clairvoyance. Got the lottery numbers for next week?
been waiting for this for a long time, can't wait to see if you make more about other old fighters like jake lamotta or archie moore
by far the best Sugar Ray video iv'e seen, well done sir!!!!
I just wanted to give my thanks and appreciation for these amazing short documentaries! Nothing beats them!
This was by far my favorite documentary you've ever done. Loved all the old footage. Obviously it's hard to do videos when there's not too much film but if you could do more of these I would absolutely love it.
Wow Joe the editing in this video! You always do amazing work. Your ability to pull the viewer in and allow them to really embrace your videos is just amazing. Thanks again for another great one. Sugar Ray was really on another level. Uhhhh maaaazzziiinnnn!!!!
Thank you for this Joseph, I have waited for long and it's worth it
I lost track of how long I've waited for this video. Awesomeee!!!!
Always hear the legend of the real sugar ray, but this epic. I've been watching your documentaries for a while now and you are by far the best. Thank you.
i’ve been watching your documentaries for a while. especially the boxing ones tho they actually is what got me into watching boxing so thank you Mr Joe Vincent.
I was hoping for a Ray Robinson doc from your channel. This was amazing. Thank you!
you absolute beauty, been waiting for this one! What a man. Your icon's, icon.
Amazing work my man.
Greatest fighter to ever live, doesn’t even seem real what he did. Absolute legend.
Sort of glossed over the left hook that killed a man in the ring. That story alone is incredible. Really great job on this.
Crazy to think how ahead Sugar Ray was compared to the boxers of his era. The movements, the set up for power punches, the jabs, the stance, everything. Truly the all-time pound-for-pound boxer to ever live.
These are highlights in full rounds he didn't look way ahead your slow
I was waiting for this 🙏🙏🙏
Finally this is all I’ve wanted to see in life
Robinson def the goat
Best man to ever step in the ring He was a mix between Roy Jones & Ali & better then both
Nobody was more athletic and explosive than Roy Jones Jr in his prime.
@@Djuane Against a prime Sugar I doubt
@@Djuane Tyson & Roy gotta give it to you on the explosiveness
Beautifully made thank you for this I've been waiting for this one for time... it must have been difficult for you to make a vid with the limited footage of Ray Robinson available but Joe is the goat 🐐
Greatness! Thank you Mr. Vincent!