Brandon Steckler Applying Advanced Drivability Diagnosis
2020 ж. 29 Шіл.
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In this Motor Age Training webinar, trainer and Technical Editor Brandon Steckler will explain the theory behind the use of pressure transducers and delta sensors to diagnose engine problems with minimal disassembly, saving shops time and customers money. He’ll put that theory into action, showing the practical side of these testing methods, acquiring captures from a test vehicle and analyzing the captured data.
Bruh I woke up at 3am drenched in sweat while this was playing at full volume
Fucking real
😂😂😂 literally the exact same
Arrrghhh get out of my head! Same thing over here just now
For real bro! Ditto
I died while watching this then woke up in a new body/life.... it was still..... playing loudly.... didn't seem to skip anything.....
Brandon is one the the best at explaining these procedures . Great job and thanx for your time .
Thanks Scott, I’m happy to help
Humble and Intelligent. Beat that! On another note, this class went really fast. I guess time flies when you are having fun. Great teaching techniques Brandon. I will be getting your book soon. Thanks for your time. God Bless!
Thank you Brandon for your time and dedication. You do a great service to the automotive community.
Thank you, I am pleased to help!
Your diligence and commitment are immeasurable! God bless you Brandon.
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Pressure waveform aquisition=The Crux of the biskit! (FZ)
What a great video Brandon! I can't believe this is free! There is a lot of good information here and is now time to practice everything I've seen here. Thank you very much Brandon!
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Appreciate all the information you all share daily. Thanks again. Have this on repeat. Great lesson
Hi Brandon! You do a really great job in explaining step-by-step how to capture and analyze waveforms using various pressure transducers. Keep up the good work!
I still appreciate this training...have to rewatch to help burn it into memory. Thanks Brandon.
This is a great video and well worth bookmarking to watch over a couple evenings
Great work Brandon! Nice to have this video to reference in the future. Thanks for all you do for this industry
Thanks Cody!
Thank you Brandon. Good job. Have a blessed and safe week to you and your family.
Thank you, likewise!
This is absolute top tier information, thank you so much for sharing this. Thank you also to Brandon and Cuba for flying the Simply Diagnostics flag ❤️ #StrongerTogether
My pleasure! 🤜🏻🤛🏻…”stronger together”
I am hooked! Thank you so much Brandon Steckler!
Excellent instruction video. Well thought out clear demonstrations of the value of these tools.
This level of understanding makes scope work exciting. I built a delta sensor with a 50 mm guitar piezo with a volume knob and sealed it with rtv to capture pressure in a pvc pipe clean out cap and it works awesome the volume knob allow me to make it big or little on the scope screen. It has no unwanted noise in its capture and it looks just like i will be incorporating it into my tool box. Thanks to these videos it makes perfect sense.
One of the best when it comes to using lab scope, very knowledgeable diagnostician. Thanks Brandon for taking the time to do this outstanding video. Your name should be“ Dr. Brandon” 😀.
Good work buddy. Glad to see you’re still grinding. I hope you’re happy in all your endeavors.
Great as always Brandon thanks for sharing your knowledge
Thank you, Odisho
God bless you Brandon!
Thanks Brandon, Very good training, nicely explained, enough repetition and at a good to follow speed. With regards Hans van Rengs
Thank you!
Great video so much fantastic information hope to see more videos On crankcase and cooling waveform Analysis thanks alot!!!!!!!!
Incredible! Thanks for sharing!
This is what i call online learning....Saturday evening just watched it all, some bits several times. An awesome class . For taking the time the time to put this together will be appreciate by techs everywhere. Many thanks
Thanks for your feedback!
Brandon "the real deal". Loving these videos.
Great stuff as always Brandon. 😁👍
Thank you !
thanks brandon! i hope so soon you come to california we are planning to a class
Thanks a lot Brandon for this class.
Thank you!
Thank you! Good stuff.
Best video I've found on this topic
God bless you, this amazing to watch
Thanks Brandon very educational
I'm so grateful I gotta tell you this: LET'S GO BRANDON !!
BRANDON, you are AWESOME always enjoy ur videos and learn a lot of info thank you and cheeeeers.
J, so glad you’ve enjoyed the presentation. Thank you
Thanks Brandon , Great job!!!
Thanks Rich!
thanks for sharing
Great stuff, I really enjoyed taking your class in the uk👍
Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed it
Hola maestro Muchísimas gracias por compartir sus conocimientos con nosotros los que nos gusta la mecánica aun ue no vivimos de eso . Dios que continúe dándole sabiduría.
Thanks for all the information Mr Brandon I pick up a lot of information
You’re very welcome!
👍 learned something. Thanks for sharing.
One question is if all ignition coil connectors are unplugged then there will no fuel injected into cylinders? All the others made sense though. Brandon, thank you for sharing your professional insights.
Thank you Brandon for all that you do for our industry. I attended your webinar series hosted by CTI. I picked up on more valuable information after watching this video. Stay safe and take care.
Awesome video man very well taught
Thank you Brandon, great video! Question for you, if you please. Near the beginning of the video, you talk shortly of being able to do a relative compression test from the dlc connector. I completely understand that, but I thought you said you could do it with a dvom from the dlc connector...or did I misunderstand somewhere,?
Awesome information! Made it so easy to understand
Thank you! This was exactly my goal
Great video, The most informative video on in cylinder testing. I got to watch this video more than once. Just to make sure I didn't miss anything.
I appreciate your feedback, thank you!
@@brandonsteckler1307 I had additional questions about the exhaust pulse. Is there a way to contact you?
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@@tillwv11 , sure...bhsteckler@gmail.com
Hello guys bless for sharing keep up the great work bless
Hello Brandon, great work. It is possible that a bad VVT solenoid in bank 2 could produce a similar wave form shown at 2:33:45 ?
Thanks For The Great Video, I Have A EEMS300 Modis And Just using It For The labscope, I need To Know If It can Be Updated For Higher Amp Clamp As iam seeing More diesels 5.2 Isuzu For Diagnostics Relative Comp Who would You Recommend To Find Out Whats Available For This Modis Other Than Snap On. Thanks
Brandon , I’m so great full that you are taking the time to record this video with so much content. I definitely will try to start using my scope more because a lot of the things you point out here just SIMPLY make a lot of sense not to mention the fact that definitely will save a lot time/money If we apply them to our diagnosis.
That's genius! Best explanation out there. Now, do something similar about fuel trims and injector/coil waveforms. Thanks a ton for that awesome video.
Thank you! As a matter fact, I have a brand new book coming out soon called “drivability from the driver seat, mastering scan tool data interpretation”
@@brandonsteckler3417 I'll be waiting impatiently for it then. BTW, pandemic aside, do you ever come north of the border to lead seminars?
Excellent! I’m a little confused at 3:18 identifying which cylinder is creating suckback. Although #1 is in the middle of its exhaust stroke #3 evo occurs right at the time the suckback occurs. My brain is full now! It has to digest.
it makes sense only if more vacuum is higher voltage and the actual misfiring cylinder is no. 3, there's somethig wrong here i think.
Hey Brandon question for you did you have to set up the scope and tell it you are using a pressure transducer?
I have a question, if I do a relative compression test with my 2 channel pico scope should I use a attenuator ?
Hi Brandon A question that occur to me is: Does that test apply only to the cylinder to which the trasducer is connected, or does it some how apply to all cylinders?
I usually turn cylinders off and on from the scanner if I think there’s a cylinder misfire. Usually the scanner turns the coil off for that cylinder. Interesting way of finding a miss .
Sir where should we place our pressure transducer,is it always on cylinder that misfire or on any cylinder that easily accessible?
I have a question about 2:41:50 How are you using a -25 H2O tail pipe sensor on the intake? Wouldn't that be measuring inches of hg which is way out of the range of the transducer? And is this a cranking capture or running capture?
thank !.
I have found some quick first tests with the scope that makes workflow fast. Using an elimination process. Assuming the PC is up and running, I can have a VE waveform in 3 minutes. If you are fairly sure the engine mechanical is OK, this conforms that and I can move directly to PG and controls. Only a hard intermittent will break this rule. Using WPS and Autonerdz probe. I have three guys using these theory’s in the shop right now. All my techs do diag at a high level. I rarely do a cranking relative comp because of this and other procedures.
VE Testing is highly recommended. In fact, so much so that I stated at the beginning of this seminar that it was only about how to acquire these wave forms. Almost all of my data analysis is gathered through the scan tool, especially for drivability fault. I only moved to The lab scope to prove circuit and or component fault. As effective as VE testing is, it will not prove cylinder leakage. This is why pressure acquisition and analysis is so handy
Can you use this to detect worn out valve stem seals
It's perfect. 👌
Really sucks not having this type of scope to perform proper and accurate diagnosis especially with these newer type engine designs.thanks for the lesson Brandon.
Frank, you do not need this type of scope. Any scope with capable sample rate and some of the PC-based features that allow for zoom will suffice
Do you prefer the ATS elite over the PicoScope? Is there a steep learning curve when using the Elite?
Was that cuba automotive on the background at 1:45 ❤️
Awesome video!!! I want to make sure to let you know that I am very blessed to run across your video! I leaned more than many other courses I’ve been in. Do you by any chance know how much of this I could use with Hantek 1008? Thank you!
I don’t, I’m sorry , As I have no experience with this scope
this is great training .I learned a lot thanks Brandon
Hey Brandon love your work! I have a question is there a good book you can recommend on waveform analysis like primary and secondary waveforms and how to properly Interpret the wave form im looking at
There was one available from Mac VandenBrink called “combustion through the eyes of a scope”. You may reach out to www.AESwave.com for details but, I’m not sure if it is still available
@@brandonsteckler3417 awesome thanks so much ill do that
Albert , It’s my pleasure… Thank you!
2:13:24, does anybody know if that is Cuba's Automotive walking in the back?
thnks...
Learned a lot from this video. How did you end up preventing the fuel flow to conduct the relative compression test? Mahalo from Hawaii.
Rarely do I disable fuel as it is not easy to do in most cases. During analysis, the engine is not run for a long period of time so fuel typically is not an issue.
Buenas tardes como puedo conseguir el libro en ciudad de México
Should we must removed first shrader valve on our compression hose before we install on the cylinder or not at all?
yes, remove, kinda like when doing leakdown testing.
Thank you so much for content and just curious at 39:24 there was a noise and a quiet "oh no" 😂 what happened we have to know
I dropped something but don’t recall what
@@brandonsteckler3417 it was the almighty 300psi transducer gifted to you by Bernie himself.
Brandon, i have a few questions 1. Is there a difference with pressure transducer from ATS to pico ? I own the price difference is huge 2. Do you also use pressure sensor to check fuel psi ? If so, what brand pressure tool do you use ?
Yes, The WPS 500 is an excellent transducer capable of measurements of -15 psi, upwards of 500 psi positive. It’s one of the most widely used on the market. It is a single unit comprised of three different settings and three different zoom levels. It’s about $1000 US and you can only sample from one place at a time. For the same price, you can sample from three different locations simultaneously, using ATS. You can definitely sample fuel pressure with any of these devices. See some of the videos on the training tab at Www.automotivetestsolutions.com
Brendan great teaching as always; For intake manifold/exhaust, I can't see why we can't just use the in-cylinder tranducer on lowest setting?? Any reason?
The lack of resolution will limit detail
@@brandonsteckler3417 ok thanks Brandon and sorry for calling u Nrendan😳 so I’m trying Fong someyhing on eBay. I should look fool positive pressure vacuum transducer inept range roughly?? Cheers Alex
Alex Messina , you will want a transducer capable of +300psi but must also measure negative-pressure. As far as intake/tailpipe/crankcase/rad….a delta sensor will suffice
Just finished watching for the 2nd time, picked up even more. This should go down in the annals of history as The Definitive Introduction to Pressure Pulse & In-cylinder analysis. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Steve, really excited to receive your feed back, thank you ❤️
Is there a video of your in cylinder pressure class available for purchase
His 8 hours class is free from CTI or worldpac
At 1:22:10 you say "extra vacuum because some air escapes past the rings". If that was happening, wouldn't it have less vacuum with the leakage through the rings? I understand the higher vacuum during the compression stroke to be due to the movement of the piston continuing down the sealed cylinder and therefore making more room in the cylinder, but still with the same amount of gas that was taken in when the inlet valve was open. Is that correct?
The leak only occurring under compression but cylinder seals otherwise. This means, during decompression, the cylinder draws into a deeper vacuum
Surprising how this video doesn't have 1M views 😭
Question for you sir during this COVID-19 are there going to be any clases or do you think you might do something on line thank you
Plenty of online classes available now. Come spend time with my friends and I and GET REGISTERED HERE: www.ctionline.com
Hi Brandon, i bought the Escope elite 4. not really happy with it,i can't see 2 or more channels live, they look like super imposed unless i measure & deep record it and many other features..I'm planning to buy the pico scope, my question is can i measure both the intake & exhaust pulsed on two channels using the WPS pressure transducer ? If not what can i use to look both a the same time? Thank you
Hello, I understand your concern with the Elite. My recommendation is to reach out to ATS as they will login to your device and show you the reason why you are experiencing an inability to see more than two channels simultaneously. To answer your question regarding the WPS, you can only sample from one area at a time (unless you are using Multiple WPS500s. That would be very expensive. My advice would be to use a delta sensor, as they will Yield you the information quite easily. Save the WPS for in-cylinder Testing
Brandon Steckler ok so i can buy two delta sensors if i want to see both intake and exhaust pulses. Am i right?
@@vickenkaragozian2041 this is correct
Brandon I’ve taken your in cyl. Waveform analysis class and I just took a Bernie Thompson TST in cylinder class and they were both excellent. I have your handout from the class but I see you put out a text. Would I gain more insight if I purchase the text. You know my background I’m a Diyer and aircraft mechanic and trying to learn all I can. I also am watching your video right now on the hookup and analysis video. I’m sure it’s a great book to have and I like supporting you and your classes and channel. Who would you recconmend I purchase it from so you get some benefit. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Artie 😊🇺🇸
Art Thanks! Yes, My book has over 27,000 words of annotation. You can find it at www.aeswave.com
Hi Brandon. I want to buy a new scope, i have the snap on Vantage pro for long time but its time to update. Would you recommend me the Pico scope or Escope? I really like the Escope. Can you answer me whenever you can ? Thank you
Both the EScope and PICO will serve you well. Both have their benefits and pitfalls but you can’t go wrong, either way. My recommendation to you, is to download the software for both scopes as it is totally free of charge. Use both of them, in demo mode… And compare for yourself. I own both, I use both, and I love both
Thank u. I’ll go with escope. It has more features. Even the Escan is great. Amazing stuff.
Vicken Karagozian , you will not be disappointed. Let me know if I can help you in any way
I sure will. Thanks for your advice. God bless. I always watch your videos. The last video was great, 3 hours of training and u were using the escope. 👍
This might be a rookie question but does tailpipe length make a difference for when you would feel the pulse difference? Great video mate. You’re a Jedi when it comes to vehicle diagnostics.
the exhaust configuration always plays a role but I find "rpm" has the most effect on the tailpipe waveform and testing should remain under 1500 rpm
Dude this guys looks a young Silvester Stalone
From this video I also learned 2007 honda civic is a good vehicle because automotive expert driving it!
Give me some good reasons to buy the escope master kit rather than the pico master...ready,but can't make up my mind!
Truth be told, you can’t go wrong with either. ATS has some uniques proprietary features that will serv you well. The tool is built for the field. Can handle 500vdc on all 4 (or 8) channels without attenuation. It captures up to 10,000 seconds in a deep record buffer without refreshing it. This means road tests will not leave you with dropped/lost data. The MEASURE tab allows you to connect your leads (up to 8 simultaneously) and just collect data. No need to set-up channels and voltage ranges. It has a TTL output which I use to serve as a “short-finder” or “open-wire finder”. (I can show you demonstrations). I found shorts in wires harnesses, without disassembly, in under 10 minutes. It has a MOSFET driver that can control components (like injectors, for pressure drop) and all sorts of nifty built-in tools. By the way...the support from ATS is second, to NONE! the family-owned company will get to know you on a fist-name basis. “Jeffery” is an absolute genius and specializes in computers but is also a 40 year veteran of being automotive technician and Ford master tech. THIS is who is at the helm of technical-support!
Be sure to download the scope software and play with it in DEMO mode. (Link below) drive.google.com/open?id=1itc_dK4ZMO7vilM-L6N4PePqhvETi-la
@@brandonsteckler1307 thank you
I can send you any file you’d like. You can use the scope just as I have. You just need the hardware to “capture” the data....analysis won’t cost you a penny (as I demonstrate in the video)
@@brandonsteckler1307 thank you. I have studied the pico software extensively. Get a lot of needed accessories. Yet Bernies package has some brilliant built in "tools" like u described.
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For some reason I woke up and this was playing?
Same here lol
That"s picking up ring flutter.
at 1:05:05 someone whispered "son of b*itch" haha
When I was a teen I used to diagnose The Low Spark of the High Heeled Boys.
57:25 "Mastery of the basics" even in 2022 this is easily lost on people, the one that makes me think of a repeated emphasis on fundamentals is the boxing expression... "A big right hand can take you around the block but a good jab will take you around the world"
And then there were electric cars.
WOW The women back side Is cuba
The one and only !
Buttonology...heehee!
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Great video, just one comment. You repeat yourself over and over and over and over and over and over and over........you get the point. 🙏
Sorry, not sure I follow what you’re saying. I apologize if you don’t find the content helpful
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