FOCKE WULF 190 vs. SPITFIRE | REAL Tailchase
2019 ж. 6 Қаз.
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Focke Wulf 190 A8 flown by Klaus Plasa chasing a Supermarine Spitfire Mk.18 flown by Rob Davies.
All filmed at the Hangar 10 Fly In 2019.
Thanks to all the people who made that happen. What an awesome event!
If you wonder what engine the Fw190 has. Its an Ash 82-T 14cyl. double row radial with the power and size comparable to the original BMW 801 engine.It was build in Karl Marx Stadt/Chemnitz. So even though it`s a russian design, the engine is still a german engine, at least kind of. ;)
Fw190 startup 0:55 Spitfire startup 2:36 CRAZY Fw190 takeoff 3:53 Spitfire takeoff 4:17 TAILCHASE beginns 4:42 Landing and taxi 8:03 Visit Hangar10: Facebook: facebook.com/Hangar10-274625062665594/ Web: hangar10.de/
I like the FW-190 startup is the best
Thank you Sir. You know why we came for.
Incredible vidéo, is the FW replic or original??
@@ericsorbara5386 replica with many original parts
@@ericsorbara5386 it's original It was recovered somewhere actually in a forest
In my humble opinion, the WWII warbirds were the most beautiful aircraft ever made. Made no difference what country made them!
Totally agree absolutely beautiful bits of kit.
That's true. P51, A6M5 and BF109 are my favs.
Spitfire P51 P38
Yep...and its takes a lot of balls to ride those beautiful machines...given the fact no safety mechanism were invented for pilots during ww2...once your plane is hit or malfunction there is minimal chance of survival...hats off to those who rides...
the fusion of american avionic desighns and british propulsion ingenuity created a marvel "when the mustang gained its rolls royce heart 😍
Thank God no music. Just the music of incredible engines.
i know right
I second that!
Also thank god no real ammo machine guns.
Yeah they sound BEAUTIFUL did you see the bird ? I thought he lost something at about the 5 39 minute I rewind to see what it was and it was a bird a really close call.
But it's not an original engine on the FW. Nice all the same.
4:45 Imagine being a farmer or a villager in 40s, and suddenly you hear engines, getting and louder and louder alongside with machinegun sounds, and you look up and see these two warbirds getting closer.
I live around the Kent/Sussex county border where this would have been a regular sight in 1940. There is a restored Spitfire that often flies over my house when the owner feels like taking it out for a jolly on a good sunny day. During the war, children would come to this countryside on working holidays to pick the hops for beer brewing and other produce from the 'Garden of England'. Slit trenches were dug in the fields so that the farmers and kids could take shelter when there was an air raid. They would huddle together and watch the dogfights cheering on the Royal Airforce as they defended Britain from invasion. The trenches were very important as sometimes the aircraft would swoop downwards as they were firing, peppering the fields below with errant machine-gun fire. Also, fleeing German aircraft would sometimes have to release their bombs early into the fields below to make a quicker getaway after a botched raid. Souvenirs from German crash sites were very popular with young lads back then, trying to outdo each other with what they could find before the local police and home-guard secured the scene.
@@dubfez_9256 What a view it was
@@dubfez_9256 my mom grew up in Wiltshire and told me about the planes that flew over during the war. I’ve had dreams of smoky skies with bombers and fighters flying overhead. What that must have been like. I can only imagine.
Just said the same thing to my dad while watching this for 1st time! Imagine being a civilian on the ground during WW2 & seeing something like this come outta no where over top of you! Except back then it'd be a fight to the death with machine gun fire & bullets ripping through the air. Crazy to think about!
My great grandfather was out farming in Germany when a p51 and a bf 109 was fighting and he recovered a shell casing from one of the birds
That focke wolff is just magic, it looks and sounds perfect
The most beautiful fighter of WW2.
I bet the pilots are going “ratatatatatata” “pew pew pew” to themselves.
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yeh
ikr?? xd like 80 years ago they would shoot each other
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Pilots in their heads : ratatata boom *stuka noise*
The Spitfire pilot was like: "It's an 80 y/o plane, i need to go gently" The Focke Wulf pilot: "MAN I'M GONNA DO SOME WEIRD SHIT"
The 190 pilot flying like he was playing War Thunder. :) That take off was NOT regulation.... NICE!
he knew the merlin sounds better so he wanted to get closer to camera to compete ;)
@@mdsf01 gotta keep her low to gain that E before coming up, just as they would have done back in the day if they were being raided. And made for a bad ass pass
@@beckjenn5227 not a RR Merlin... RR Griffon cheers
The Fw 190 pilot had to fly hard to keep up with the Spitfire who's pilot was going gently.
I’ve seen plenty of Spitfires before but that FW-190 is incredibly beautiful.
Beautiful? Not sure about that handsome maybe??
Butcher bird
@@sudscoupe planes, ships, cars, doesn’t matter. They almost always get female names
@@princeofhyrule2205 In German it's der Würger, masculinum.
@@sudscoupe Formidable or impressive? Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder but to my eyes it's quite an ugly, hefty looking machine. That means nothing regarding its performance and effectiveness. And I'd rather be in an efficient ugly aircraft than an inefficient pretty one. But in a beauty contest, it doesn't get past the first cut.
I was a kid in England all through the war. I saw some of this stuff for real. Even today the sound of a Rolls-Royce Merlin gives me goose-bumps.
Rolls-Royce Griffon.
@@zigglewiglerost of the spitfires used the Rolls-Royce Merlin. Only the Spitfire F Mk.XIV and after used the Rolls-Royce Griffon Although the one in the video does have the Rolls-Royce Griffon, as you can see a bump above the exhaust, which is exclusive to spitfires with the Griffon engine
@@MG101thanks for that info!
I'm really sorry that happend to you sir. I hope one day you will be able to hear the sounds of the engines and not get goose bumps. Shall God bless you more than you already are.
@@Wooden_rails Strange man
It's really incredible the difference in sound between the two. The smoothness of the Spitfire vs the low rumble and popping of the FW190, which makes it sound like a dragster. So beautiful.
both magnificent aircraft that's for sure.
fun fact: the fw190 was almost cancelled because one of the many problems was the 190 A-0 [prototype] overheated so badly that it had to be watered down just after taxiing to the runway. Even the A-1 [first war production] suffered crazy overheating issues and had to have their engines replaced so often.
27L Rolls Royce Merlin Supercharged V12. vs 41L(wtf!) BMW 801 Supercharged, direct injection, twin row 14 cylinder radial.
@@markadolphus5094 lol get educated it a mk 18 no merlin
I always made the analogy that the FW was more like a torquey V8 car and the Merlin was more like a low displacement v10.
Lots of speculation from people who never flew either plane. My uncle, Irving Kennedy, was a Spitfire pilot in WW2 who was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross with Bar. In “Black Crosses Off My Wingtip”, he wrote about a duel he had with a German fight leader in a FW190. Although my uncle had perviously shot down several 190s, this pilot gave him the dogfight of his life. My uncle knew his late model Spit could outturn the 190, but the German would not try to turn with him, instead zooming up and flick turning, and coming back down. Neither pilot could gain the advantages and the fight ended in a draw. Even when flying his favorite model, Spit IX, my uncle had great respect for the FW190. The ME109 was much easier to shoot down, although the G model was tough opponent in some circumstances. With regard to a turning fight, my uncle said he could turn the Spit until the g forces caused his field of vision to decrease to the size of a nickel. It was inhumanly possible to turn faster without blacking out. After numerous flights, G forces caused permanent damage to his back, The Canadian government acknowledged this problem and provided an extra medical allowance on all Spit pilots pensions! He said he never worried about an unexpected stall in turns because the Spit would shake long before stall, and he could back off slightly. In summary, from the mouth of a Spit Ace, the FW190 and the Spit IX were well matched. The Spit V was inferior to the FW190. The Spitfire IX was superior to the Me109 (but the G model could be troublesome).
Thank you for sharing that
That’s a very well balanced analisys of either planes performance. After reading so many aviation books in my life I came to the conclusion ME-109 Gustavs were heavier and not as maneuvrable as F models due to increased armament and armour. Only K models improved this tendency later in the final months of the war by introducing more powerful engines. Regarding the 190, only D models were on par with Griffon variants of the Spitfire right?
@@Youtubax The Bf-109's switch to the DB605 from the earlier DB601 took place during the G-series. The later G-series and the Ks which were produced should have been pretty similar in performance to each other.
Christopher, I really appreciated your comment. Thank you for sharing. Lest we forget. Greetings from Australia.
no need for me to have been a ww2 190 pilot, I unlocked it war thunder hence to there forth, I know MORE about what its like to dog fight in this pos than you or anyone else!
It's great to see a 190 still flying. I'd love to see a 190D.
*happy long nose Dora noises*
Unfortunately there is only one theoretically able to fly ( in Seattle ), but not used for that as being the only left in that condition. Shame for us fans, but understandable.
They used that Dora's engine sound for the dcs fw190 d9
D9 or ta152
I'd love to see a do-335 fly.
The sound of the FW 190's engine is simply incredible! Thank you for the video
Immortal, this sound
russian engine
@@tellyonthewall8751 Wasn't the Russian engine a copy of a Pratt and Whitney?
@@curtisbryce5096 no ... based on in the first versions .. just like all the other reversed engineered things from the Soviets , see the Tu-4
That grunt the radial engine makes is my favourite WW2 sound.
naa the MERLIN sounds much tighter and the exhaust is tuned on the Spit...
@@johndyson4109 I love both
Eh i like the sirins of the STIKA
😄😄😄🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧You lost. Twice. Nazi.
Agreed. They sound bigger, beefier and overall stronger. Radials ftw!
That 190 take off was absolutely legendary. We need more pilots like that!
We did. Then there was a bobble post takeoff and they crashed and burned. Fella know his bird though.
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The Fw 190 take off did not look so good to me almost marginal as if the pilot started to climb then had to level off to gain speed, the Spitfire was off the ground much sooner and just climbed away effortlessly.
You mean more wrecked irreplaceable aircraft? Why?
My father was one of these "crazy pilots" .
Klaus is simply a very scary pilot. I wouldn’t want to meet him in actual combat. He wears that FW like a second skin.
No kidding :) He flew that bird like it was stolen. Kinda like how I drive my BMW 750i...accept he doesn't get tickets !
He definitely enjoys the low-approach for the other pilot to pull up; which is too late for them.
I’m sure he’s a very skilled and experienced pilot with lots of flight hours. He flew that Butcher Bird like a pro old school F1 driver.
If it was Klaus taxiing the Gustav in another video, yes! Even taxiing.
That fw190 engine roaring by is just 👌
This is THE SICKEST WWII airplane video on youtube. Absolutely incredible. Big thank you to the guys with the money, the guys who take care of them, the people who designed them, to everyone involved.
Remember this. What you see here is a display. Throttles feathered back to ensure engine longevity, after all, they’re vintage. But back in the day these would be scrapping with engine at full throttle and full boost. The merlin/griffon had a throttle “gate” the could be used for a limited amount of time for extra power if you were in serious shit. The Germans used a different method to gain extra when needed. But what you see here is a fraction of what these bad boys are actually capable of if they were in a bad mood. 💪
@@MrTubbymarshall Wish I could of heard it
No, I am sure the aeroplane is in fact quite well with no illness at all as you can see from the film.
@@MrTubbymarshall Utterly correct. While wonderful to watch, those two planes are flying nowhere near to their limits, or beyond. Understandable with such Vintage aircraft, but is an unavoidable shame that we cannot see them fly while stressed to the limit. Thanks for the Video and God Bless the Preservers of these very special machines
A big thank u
incredible that some folks have the know how and finances to keep this history alive. Thanks to you.
My dream in life is to own an old warbird. They are just so awesome.
Until I watched this video I didn't realize how short the 190's wingspan was in comparison to the Spitfire. It's great to see these legendary war birds airborne today. Props to the folks who take the time and money to restore and maintain these beautiful beasts. Thanks for the upload.
And how narrow the Spitfire’s landing gear is!
Never had such a quick, unexpected smile on my face. Damn the sound in the first seconds when they fly past! Instant smile across my face. THE SOUND PEOPLE! How bizarre it must have been in the war. Fear for your life but at the same time mesmerized by the orchestra above you. Amazing that such things still happen and we get to see real planes fly like back in the day. Modern times are so dull and governed by reason and cost. This is just history and enjoyment!
The whistle of the Griffon, as theyre coming towards the camera, and the roar of the radial after they go past are stuff of dreams
MrAssassin641 that whistle u here is the air going over the gun ports not the engine 🍻🇦🇺
@Geo Thomas Agreed. Whistling gun ports are to be commonly heard on Mustangs, not Spits.
If you notice toward the beginning of the video when the Spitfire is taxiing, the gun ports are blocked off...
P-51 whistling sound is damn amazing though. kzhead.info/sun/m5mfmq99j4qGhHA/bejne.html
None of them hold a candle to the CA13Boomerang. kzhead.info/sun/YJ1mnNmOoKiXoJE/bejne.html
Grandpa in wheelchair watching the sky: "AAAAAh shit, here we go again."
In order to be alive in 1945 you’d be 76 now, in order to have fought in the last year you’d be 93. If you fought throughout the war you’d be a minimum age of 99 now. This is assuming you were 17 and had parental consent.
@@eddherring4972 I mean, it's not impossible, it's just kinda hard to achieve this
lmao
I wonder if people that old would be able to enjoy the beauty of the machinery or if they just would be terrified that the German fighter is behind their British comrade... You know, like muscle memory where you have to actively remind yourself on how to do things, that they have to actively overcome their instinct that this isn't "real".
lol
The fw190 is basically a flying tank it's amazing how german pilots could fly them so well
Watch Greg's airplanes on KZhead. The 190 is one of the best engeneered planes . Kurt tank and his team where brilliant
I can't decide which sounds better. The smoothness of the RR Griffon in the Spitfire or the gnarly dragster popping of the 190.
It's crazy to think that in 1944 they let 19 year old fly those things.
@Jakob Yes in 1945 it was more like "Do you want to fight commies in a FW 190 kid, for the fatherland...? No...? Well you have no choice my little kinder."
@@jojuca92 Yes terrible time, my father was14-15 in this time. He told me Us planes or Uk planes shoot at everything they saw. They had to hide in a tunnel from a spitfire attack. He was lucky. The war was over before he had to go to army.
@@ktmexc1358 Yes the allied did the same in Japan at the end of the war P-51 crew would take of from some forward base in the pacific just to gun down "domestic activities" to disrupt the japanese moral. They straffed workers in field fishing ships etc. Those missions were often carried out by young pilot new to the front happy to prove their valor. They also bomb the shit of occupied european countries. A shame that such magnificent aircraft were designed to do such terrible things.
19 year olds were a lot different in 1944
To drive a fighter in ww2 you'd better be young, athletic and also reckless I'd say, with the fresh & fast mind of that age. The air force, especially fighters, was (and still is) not for everyone, you must be the top, ppl enlisted for it, and I think it was a great honour and privilege for a young man and his family to be in. Air fighters also inherit some of the old nobility of the army that was in the cavalry.
Low passes for reference: Spitfire: "weeeeeeeeeaaaaoooooooooh" 190: "mmmmmmGroaoauauaugghhhh"
Your absolutely right lol
On point :)
How to identify 40's bird of prey
The 190's radial sounds like the V8 of airplanes 😄
And the Japanese zero?
Man I’m sorry, but that 190 sounds like a BEAST!!!! 💪🏼
@nzjxscjnsc sc no. Nazis dead and buried in the ground where they belong.
Why are you sorry?
Because it is a modern Russian motor.
My favourite sounds. Bless those who made these. Masterpieces that served their countries. WW2 Planes have a soul.
That Focke Wulf 190 engine sound 😍
I dont know much about engines but to me it sounded very coarse and gritty. Not very pleasant.
@@poconofriend777 Idk about you but i personally love the strong and rough sounds it makes.
the rough sound was from the 190, the engine whine was from the spit
the rough one was from the 190, the engine whine was from the spit
@@_spooT im guessing that whine is the supercharger on the merlin V12
Amazing machines. thanks for the video
Hi mate! This is my idea of heaven!! Even fast jets are a favourite. Military aviation is a hobby, and this honest to goodness engineering is admirable. It goes to show that old school ways last much longer. You don't see Tornado, Jaguar even Phantoms flying around now. Shame. And the sooner airshows are back, the better!!!
@@derekporter7658 I miss airshows too ! Great entertainment and so spectacular ! This is a brilliant video !!
@@howardcoles3537 Absolutely! I think for aviation fans,especially of the military variety, the entertainment value is second to none, for me, it's more than that! I just love watching military aircraft flying around and the sound of the aircraft!!
Appreciate your videos PROBLEM fella.. 🇬🇧
Both beautiful aircraft, but FW seemed a bit outclassed.
Gorgeous footage. Both such powerful planes to see an hear. Visceral footage. The 190 pilot was really giving it some though eh? That take off was nuts ...and all his passes had some torque on them that made it seems like he was really giving it something extra. Good stuff! Many thanks.
Yes that Klaus pilot was a bit of a Fouke but the footage was wunderbar.
What an enjoyable treat to see these two war birds tail chasing each other . The sound of the engines is breathtaking. The Spitfire has the most beautiful sound & hum from its engine. Its pure bliss 😊 It makes you feel how it was for those amazing Pilots flying those amazing war birds during WW2 Thank you for sharing this amazing footage 👏
Amazing that the most terrible of things (war) can produce some of the most wonderful of our accomplishments. Nice to see two old enemies together in peace.
Jay Ferris diamonds are formed from pressure eh
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Yes. There you are right. Let´s hope, we will never kill against. I hope athough, I have never to kill an Russian, wether we were trained for this. For what? For whom????
Somehow, I feel more connected to history even watching this. The sights, the sounds, the colours, the growls of the engines. This is exactly what the pilots and mechanics and groundcrews would have experienced, in full colour. Of course, they experienced all of this along with the savagery and the terror and the life-and-death courage and the loss of life. A magnificent video! Thank you for sharing. And like others have said, thank you for not drowning out the raw footage with music and other stuff!! The engines were music in themselves.
Yes, and ze air was lead heavy! Life fire all around the clock! :-)
ground crew could hear if there was something wrong with the engine in those flyby, my grandfather was a german stuka pilot later converted into a fighter due to lack of pilots and the increasing bombers over germany. he said when stukas took off under normal conditions they would do a flyby over the airfield before forming up and climbing with the ground crew listening to them and watching for weird exhaust smokes etc. something they didn't do later in the war with the 109's
@@massimomax3215 Amazing those little details that add richness to our understanding of history. Thank you for sharing. My highest respects to your grandfather.
@@blockboygames5956 thank you, i'm fascinated by those years, mostly for the technology innovations that came along with the 2 world wars. if you read a book about the early days of ww1 and compare it to something that talks about the end of ww2 it seems like a whole century went past. we went from manual labor in the fields to the moon in like 40 years time with 2 horrible men slaughtering wars in them.. it's for sure worth taking a deep look into what happend those years
@@massimomax3215 YEs I totally agree. I have read a lot about those two world wars... the Balkan Crisis, the Munich agreement, so many things went into the history of that time. And we advanced so so fast. If we do not learn, then we will make the same mistakes. We mostly don't understand why the Nazis and the Socialists and the Communists did what they did.
These are some beautiful aircraft. My grandfather flew in the later spitfire models and he would always recount how gorgeous it was. I miss him everyday and his tales of flying that beautiful bird.
The sound of that spitfire gives me chills.
Pure original sound. I love it. Thank you for no annoying background music.
Such an underrated detail. No music to 'jazz it up". Just leave it alone, let those gorgeous machines be the music.
Its beautiful to see them fly together in times of peace
@Redblade Fuck off you toxic fuck.
They probably looked better flown in anger tbh
@@shocker4578 Are you dense? It's a saying. It means to really throw it around, just as you would in a real dogfight where you're trying to kill the other guy.
@@shocker4578 Another saying that you apparently have somehow never heard. I'm not arguing with you here, it will clog the place up with comments
@Redblade oh man... its wonderful to see these planes still flyinh around... in times of peace.
I dont think there is anything cooler sounding than hearing these rip through the sky.
It is so awesome to see these relics in full working order.
When the Spitfire roars past...I hear the sound of VICTORY in the skies over Britain...and I'm a Yank!
The sound of these two diving down, one chasing the other, genuinely gave me goosebumps! Awesome.
The 190 sounds like a flying monster truck.
Rnezto супер полеты. Прекрасно что сейчас такое можно наблюдать!
The 190 looks like an elephant compared to the spits beautiful sleek thoroughbred lines.
@@geoffmower8729 That Griffon compares better to the FW190 Dora series than the Antons...
@@geoffmower8729 You're blind as mate go and have a look at the side view of a 190D... sex on wheels that plane, a design classic.
that´s what it is
I'm have been working on the out skirts of Cambridge for the last year and have the honour of seeing the Spitfire regularly flying overhead. They made a low level pass over the site a few months back so I started waving and the pilot seemed to tip his wings side to side saying hello back. It made my day..
I used to live near Duxford. Great free seats in the garden for every air show.
Awesome video. Simply stunning to see these machines still going strong. Thanks for the upload. Excellent.
That Spitfire's Engine is like listening to a perfectly tuned Engine , and that FW - 190 is the coolest looking Plane ever !
the FW sounded like a harley davidson
i was thinking the same thing but i thought the Spit' sounded amazing on taxi and the FW sounded ..... not so nice. the Merlin just sounds like a fighter should.
Rolls Royce Griffon V12 vs BMW radial 14 (russian ash 82 T2) ;)
Idk for me the FW looks like Zero
@@PHX76 Superficial resemblance due to engine type. The FW was far faster and more powerful and tough, the Zero-Sen lighter and more maneuverable with much greater range (critical for fighting in the Pacific).
The Fw190 pilot is going hard. I love it.
@Hoa Tattis Spitfire was significantly obsolete by the time the FW190 came around: 369 mph to 426mph.
He's putting that old girl through her paces!
@@IndianaSmallmouth Top speed doesn't matter much in a dog fight if the aero can't turn the plane sharply enough to utilize it. Having said that, the FW190 was extremely good at the time, until the Spitfire MK1X was released.
@Hoa Tattis VII means 7, and VIII means 8, and IV means 9. Surely you mean the IX and later? EDIT: I was wrong.
@@1992jamo the VIII actually came after the IX if I remember correctly.
Those pilots were having some fun there! Amazing to see the planes fly side by side when originally they were enemies. Beautiful machines in looks and sound. The spit fire, hurricanes and a Lancaster bomber often fly past my house during the summer and the sound of them always fills me with pride for my ancestors who faught for my freedom. God bless them all
Individually they sound beautiful. Together they sound like a orchestra.
Bless you for the omission of some stupid background “music “, or yammering from some know-it-all ...
Aye, these machines speak for themselves really
I must say, American air shows are almost insufferable. The planes fly up and down slowly while some guy who thinks he's Jesus shouts over the tannoy about how amazing it is.
These beasts know more than we ever will
The way the Fw190 drops down just after 6:50 is so incredibly beautiful. It used to be called “the Hun in the sun,” because the Luftwaffe pilots were famous for dropping down out of the sun as though they’d come out of nowhere. “Boom and Zoom” tactics is i think what they call it. Pilots like Erich Hartmann, Günther Rall, Walter Nowotny were famous for it and it helped them achieve such remarkable kill counts. These tactics really suited the characteristics of the German fighter planes. RAF fighters like the spitfire I think preferred to get into complex long engagements where they could out manoeuvre the bf109s/fw190s with their superior turning circles and rolls etc.. Please someone correct me if anything i have said is wrong, I just love learning how the different ww2 fighters acted and the different strengths/weaknesses and tactics of each country etc.. Myself i love the German approach of quality over quantity despite the fact that it wasn’t effective in winning the war, the stuff that they made was just so amazing.
Yes. Usually they were shotdown.
@@shocker4578 he who expects rewards, doesn't deserve it.
I too like German Approach
@ Spitfire quite easily out-turns 109. P-51 and Bf 109 are closely matched in turning dogfight at low to medium altitudes.
I briefly read through the comment section. Yes, that was definitely a slip, idk if there was enough rudder to qualify as a full side slip(it’ll be at least 100+kph to200+kph in energy advantage in the same altitude to qualify for a boom and zoom or to have any chance of a safe disengagement). Slipping it self is used to burn energy and in a fighter like the 190 which have great energy retention is pretty useful. While yes one may say 190s historically is more used in boom and zooming, remember that they also produced F8 variants(take a A8 up the armour, add hard points, and different canopies) which I would go as far as saying the most successful fighter bomber of WWII. In such configuration when engaged the fighter is found to be in a lower energy state then the enemy which leads to another strength in the 190-defensive flying. One last point a later variant of the 190 like the Dora (d12 or d13) will be able to our turn climb stall better than a spitfire mkII, while there’s nothing a 190 A5 pilot can do towards a griffin. A P51 mkI will struggle against almost all fighters of WWII due to lack of power. Comparing fighters is no justice without comparing the variants because there was simply too much changes that happened throughout. If you’re interested in dog fighting look into energy trapping, energy conservation,(109,p51,p38,spitfire, typhoons, tempest, lavockin) boom and zoom (p47,190, Me163,or anytime you’ve got so much energy your aircraft compresses and you’re forced to disengage then re-engage). Turn fighting itself is a art on its own it’s not head cut off turning like many thinks there’s a lot of maneuvering. It’s about person coming out of a scissor with that little more speed than they planned to or the person that dropped a better hammer head when the other one briefly spinned.... and if you’re into more of the physics and engineering aspect of things wonderwaffle is the place to look
I love these planes and the sound they make, so grateful for the people who restored them to there former glory! Thank you!
It's really great that they now have a FW190 in their fleet. I look forward to seeing these planes live at Usedom in Heringsdorf.
The 190 pilot is enjoying his flight, looks the more daring of the two.
6:51 I was surprised to see him suddenly swoop down behind the spitfire.
@@lone1mis It's the genes inside the pilot :DD But now really it looks epic!
The Spitfire pilot had to fly gently so the Fw 190 could keep up.
Probably the best fighter of World War Two, kinda makes sense
Well I don't blame anyone for being careful with those flying pieces of history.
the sound of prop fighters passing by are somewhat cooler than the ones of jets on my opinion
One doesn't blow out your ear drums too
Depends on the planes you’re comparing tbh But as a general props just sound so much better
The low whistle of a turbine at idle is better imo
@@Micro-Lander Oh I dunno. I’ve seen an F35 being flown and it was pretty damn cool! The sound that it made went right through you, tens of thousands of horsepower.
As much as I would not like to have lived back in the Second World War, gosh to be a child experiencing these sounds must have been amazing despite all the horrors on the Home Front.
Thanks for the video! I'd definitely like to see or fly Fw.190 with an instructor. I hope I see the most of German WW2 aircrafts in person, including Ju87, Bf.109, Fw.190, Me.262, He.111, etc if I manage to find a job as a data analyst and relocate into this country. Btw, during the war, the Fw.190 was much better rather than a Spitfire, especially when they face each other for the first time. Britain engineers were using Fw.190 to make the Tempest and Seafury. Kurt Tank was a legend of his time! My Respect to Him.
well done to the entusiast and engineers who keep these beautiful aircraft flying.....could watch them all day....thanks lads
Imagine having a peaceful walk outside breathing some fresh air or probaply working on your farm and suddenly see those 2 planes fighting in the air. What a beautiful yet terrifying sight.
Holy smokes! I've got to go see and hear the FW-190 in person. What a beautiful airplane.
same here.. gawd it sound so beautiful ... lol Me109 engine is beasty too
the Spits are very beautiful too - but best looking is FW-190 D9 ;)
Especially the D-9 variant!
I was lucky enough to see a FW-190 April last year , what an awesome machine alright ' you won't be disappointed 👍
@@Dan-mn8wb I'd flown everything from tail draggers to supersonic trainers and then airliners but none of those would be in the same league as a FW-190! Damn! I bet that bad boy's torque would require a ton of rudder? I read where special high altitude models had Daimler Benz engine with supercharger and could easily get to FL410? Holy Sh%$! Wow! That's what I call piston power!
Thank you so much for not destroying this with crappy music. Just perfect:))
There were many upgrades and variants to both airplanes. Reviews I read seem to give a slight edge to the Focke Wulf 190, nicknamed the Butcher Bird. Later in the war the skill of the pilots often made the difference. The allies had so many more planes than the Germans who continued to lose skilled pilots. Younger inexperienced pilots had to fill the void and were easier prey. The pilots of WW1, WW2, and Korea were the romantic age of dogfights. Today fighters lock on target before visual contact and radar guides the missile.
The Fw 190 D late in the war couldn't match the Spitfire Mk XIV which was in service some months earlier just as the Fw 190 A didn't match the Spitfire Mk IX.
Its easy to notch a missile beyond 20nm. So really you still end up getting into turn fights in modern fighters 😊
Its lovely to see these old foes flying together in a spirit of friendship rather then trying to blow each other out of the sky.War really is awful.
If by "old foes" you're referring strictly to the planes (which are inanimate and would never fight themselves), then ok, but you realize the pilots aren't old enough to have been in WWII, right?
@@fredpearson5204 lol
Yeah.. When they were young they where trying to kill each other, but now they just pal around and race and hang out.
@@kidkratoski3778 Like blokes do.
@@Westyrulz Chad life son.
That 190 pilot is having a fantastic time
Imagine watching these in action. It must of been mesmerising. The sound is unforgettable
The Spit's supercharger wine sent goosebumps. Nicely done lad.
Was für tolle Flugzeuge und großes Lob an diejenigen, die sie hoffentlich noch lange flugfähig halten!
Einverstanden!
Genau
Both of these planes are just such a pleasure to watch and listen to!! Thank you for the video! :)
6:17 - 6.37. Love this clip. Amazing airplanes. Beautiful engine sounds! Thank you for sharing.
OTIMA VELOCIDAD
6:18 Imagine you are soldier in WW2 and seeing 2 enemy airplanes comming at you like that....
Just use the Riot shield, Their guns can't get through
Oh shit runnnnnnnnnnnn
@Adrianits a joke we all know that
More like seeing an enemy coming for you and then you see that a friendly fighter is going after him full speed
@Adrian it's a joke you muppet
The FW190D (langnase) is my favourite plane of WW2. They look absolutely villainous. The Spit is beautiful though. Even the short-nose 190's look lethal.
I'll take a P-51 over the 190 any day.
Lets see, six 12.7 mm (0.50 in) vs four 20 mm and two 13 mm... Yeah I'll take the FW 190 A
Agreed, well said
The coolest thing about this in my opinion, is how it feels so unnatural to see this for me, because I'm so used to the black and white of documentaries and old footage quality. But this is what it actually looked like for people back then to see these planes pass over. Edit: and sound!
OH MAN that FW-190 sounds absolutely beautiful pure heaven to my ears. It's a dream of mine to fly an actual real FW-190 that pilot has an awesome job that lets him fly that beautiful War Bird.
My mother and father were pilots. I grew up around single engine planes and many air shows. The first time I ever laid my eyes and ears on a Spitfire I was forever smitten. What a magnificent aircraft.
That FW 190 sounds means and absolutely gorgeous
yes the soviet engine use in the FW190 did sound nice
@@leneanderthalien The Fw190 we see doesn't have its BMW engine? What's it using, a Lavochkin radial?
When it's sound on my tails I would pee myself up
@@Kawabongahlive Indeed...
@@TheTazzietiger Thanks!
the most beautiful (audio) display of aviation perfection ever!
I’m speechless. Wonderful video. Thanks for posting. Brought a smile to my face.
No computers etc just real planes , love it
fw has a fuel and pitch computer.
Focke Wulf had computer controlled engine management system called the Kommandogerät (command-device): in effect, an electro-mechanical computer which set mixture, propeller pitch (for the constant speed propeller), boost, and magneto timing
What about the robot they're using to tow the planes out? XD
@@StellarGryphon I, TOWBOT! *laughs and laughs and laughs*
I think this Fw 190 A-8 has a Russian ASh-82 radial engine. There's atleast one airworthy Fw 190 A-5 with an original BMW 801 radial.
The FW 190, especially the 'A" 'series, was such a great-looking aircraft.
I personally think the jolly old spitfire looks spiffing, what?
The sound is phenomenal. Great video
I like the Fw 190 so mutch what a beauty
My favorite is the Mustang P51D, with the Focke Wulf a close second.
thanks
@@fockewulffw1908 Hey sup Fw190, how has your dogfighting today?
@@hachipanki8634 Great! Thanks!
How has been* Sry
I love that brutal FW look but that spitfire sound: OMG!!!
Me too. I has a metallic sound.
Spit sounds like Rolls Royce. FW 190 like my old VW. Lovely sound and Planes, and don't need to kill anymore. I believe the spit would have escaped in one of the clouds. Just looks more agile and faster.
@@thorstenklopp9209 didn't look was... Pretty well matched speed wise especially with a little height advantage but a spifire pilot would dive then climb and turn,it was its big advantage over the FW and would get the spit on the FW tail or at least out of trouble to fight another day.
Rabid Jock that’s because it has the really late war griffon engine while the fw is just an a model lol. Think 1945 plane versus 1943, wasn’t exactly a “fair” match but it’s still a cool demonstration nonetheless
@@shanekeene4242 thx for the info didnt know that. I was talking about the general rule for FW v Spit which you hear most of the old fighter pilots refer to especially during the BOB. My Dad was in the RAF during Ww2 as a navigator/gunner in Lancs..
Thanks for a perspective I haven’t seen as these two adversaries in time past
It must have been equally terrifying and exhilarating flying these things in actual combat during WWII
Thank you Paddy Patrone for a very thrilling, satisfying video of 2 of the very best warbirds of WW2.. Both the sight & especially the glorious sound have been magically captured
"There's a hole in your left wing!"
Pvt Snafu oh no
*Left wing destroyed*
Boekoe OH YEAHH
Well you have one in you RIGHT WING !!!!
Bravo!
Very lucky to live in Kent, we get Spitfires flying low over our place most days and quite common at the weekend along with the odd Hurricane. The Merlin is such a distinct sound.
This spitfire is a Griffon, the merlins are mk 1 to mk 16, mk 17 to mk 24 are griffons :)
@@justsomeguywithoutashirt7535 Good to know, thanks for the info!
@@justsomeguywithoutashirt7535 The Mk XII and MK XIV have Griffon engines, the Mk XVI is a Mk IX but with the Merlin 266 instead of the Merlin 66, the Mk XV and XVII were Seafires with Griffon engines.
Great video, thanks for posting!
The sight and the sound: You just get goosebumps. I thought there was no Focke Wolfs left. So happy to notice I am wrong.
The only original flying is with the Flying Heritige collection. It was found in Russia in the 90’s, and restored by Paul Allen the Microsoft guy, he owned the Flying Heritige collection.
I think this one is a Flug Werk Fw 190 A-8.
ooo ooo ive seen it i live close to tge museum theres 2 different models
CeLeRy_ StIcK Yes ! I will definetly consider going to the United States now and visit the Flying Heritige museum. They are restoring a ME262 with original jet engines.
Great photography and editing with only the music of the machines - thanks.
Love the lines of the Supermarine but that pilot in the Focke Wolfe I would want on my side !! Beautiful beautiful planes
The spitfire is the stealth plane of its day. You couldn't hear it coming until it was too late.
You couldn't hear anyone coming over the sound of your own engine, though.
@@laurensvannijvel3256 oh you would hear the enemy dive from above if you we're caught off gaurd. They weren't giving full boost (full throttle) while flying only when dogfighting to avoid the engine seizing and thats when you'd hear the prop spinning towards you
Seen this and commented before, but every now and then I have to have a cheeky re-watch!! Simply stunning 🤗
Imagine these two machine roaring in the sky 1945. Insane
My Mother who lived in the Worthing area (UK) during WW2 she said she use to watch them dog fighting, she also said she was out shopping one day when a German aircraft strafed the High Street she dived into the nearest shop luckily.
My great grandfather recalled a moment in 1944, when he saw a spitfire flying over at a low speed he waved, and he saw them wave back.
It never happened. The Spitfire MK.18 first flight was in 1947.
Imagine a squadron
@@elbartho01 The Mk XVIII was in service in 1947 but production started in WW II and ended in 1946. The Mk XVIII was based on the Mk XIV which was in service in late 1943 and did shoot down quite a lot of Fw 190's, including the later Fw 190 D.
What great airplanes both of them are, thank you very much for sharing this with us!
We've all been waiting 80 years for this!!!!
He's really slinging that 190 around, beautiful plane.
Indeed he is! If this was a real dogfight I'm putting all my money on the FW190 in this fight.
@@Wallyworld30 The Fw 190 pilot would have to sling it around just to stand a chance, especially against a Spitfire Mk XIV, much faster, better acceleration, better climb and more maneuverable. I have heard that no Spitfire Mk XIV's were ever shot down in combat, they did shoot down Bf 109's, Fw 190's and Me 262's
Barrie Rodliffe I don’t think there were that many experienced German pilots left on the west front when the mk XIV was deployed in the summer of -44.
@@barrierodliffe4155 I was basing my bet on the performance of the pilot rather then the plane itself. The FW190 pilot seems to have brass balls.
@@Wallyworld30 Fw 190 pilots were rather afraid of the Spitfire from 1942 with the introduction of the Spitfire Mk IX to the end of the war that seems to have been the case, the same applies to any Luftwaffe fighter.
that spitfire whistle sound is sooooooo iconic. and the plane is just so beatiful
That's the Merlin Rolls Royce power plant. Didn't matter if it was in a Spitfire Marine or a North American P-51 Mustang. I hear it often enough living under KVNY runway 16 R here in California.
Um, sorry, but that mark spit has a griffon engine (fitted from mark XII onwards), see the raised troughs over the engine cowling ... Totally different sound ...
That 190 sounds awesome!!!!
Beautiful, thank you for posting.
Klaus in the 190 is exceptional just enough crazy there to make it exciting.
Diese schönen historischen Flugzeuge wieder fliegen sehen zu können und zwar in einer Qualität als ob man dabei wäre. Ein Traum
Was ist denn an Waffen "schön"?
@@dr.-ing.ansgarmatthes9688 Schönheit liegt im Auge des Betrachters und außerdem sprach ich von einem Flugzeug.
@@herbsl Sie sprachen nicht von einem, sondern von Flugzeugen, und diese waren nunmal Waffen (im weiteren Sinne), im engeren Sinne führten sie Waffen mit ("bewaffnet"). Davon abgesehen, sehe auch ich, welchen Innovationsschub gerade die Me-262 verkörperte, ihr elegante, exzellente Formgebung. Aber Schönheit bei Tötungs- und Zerstörungsmaschinen?
@@dr.-ing.ansgarmatthes9688 Denk an Kain und Abel und ihre Steingeschichte, die "etwas" aus dem Ruder lief.. im "weiteren Sinne" ist ein Stein oder Stock eine Waffe, sogar wenige Liter Wasser kann jemanden töten. Auch ein Stein kann schön sein, so what? Schäm dich ob deiner Torheit, hier solchen Unsinn zu verbreiten und mir die eleganten Flugzeuge schlecht reden zu wollen! Solch ein benehmen als "Dr.-Ing.", ich hege Zweifel... PS. Krieg dem Kriege
@Dr.-Ing. Ansgar Matthes Ich habe keine "Waffen" gesehen. Hast du, "Dr.-Ing"??? Trotz der Rolle, die sie während des Krieges spielten, sind sie sehr schöne Flugmaschinen!