Do we Need God? - The Loss of God and the Decay of Society
2023 ж. 31 Қаз.
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We don't need the god of the jws and all the prophetic validation that comes with it.
🐟 16. YOGA (RELIGION): YOGA & RELIGION DEFINED: The English word “religion” originates from the Latin verb “religare”, meaning “to join” or “to unite”. It is the precise equivalent of the Sanskrit noun “yoga”, from the verbal root “yuj” (“to attach, harness, or yoke”). Thus, religion/yoga implies union with the Supreme Self, or, to provide a more accurate and profound definition, the understanding and realization that there is nothing BUT the Supreme Self (“Paramātmāṇ”, in Sanskrit). Other definitions include “union of the body and the mind” and “union with God”, both of which are valid in the appropriate context. Perhaps the best definition of “yoga/religion” is “the UNION of the relative and the Absolute”, meaning, one who has fully realized himself to be, in essence, the very Ground of Being (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit), but knows precisely how to integrate that understanding within temporal existence, just as, for example, Lord Jesus Christ so admirably demonstrated during His public ministry over two millennia ago, in Israel. A similar understanding of the terms “yogaḥ” and “religion” to that given above, would be as follows: “Religion/yoga is the union of the external and internal worlds”. This refers to an authentic, HARMONIOUS integration of a human being’s outlook of the external sphere of material objects (which includes other minds and intellects), and one's internal way of being. This interpretation comports with the definition of “yogaḥ” found in the “Yogaḥ Sūtras” of Patañjali, who codified various schools of Samkhya and yoga about two thousand years ago, in India. THE ORIGIN OF RELIGION ACCORDING TO TRADITION: According to some sources, YOGA (authentic religion) was introduced to human society over twelve thousand years ago, by the Ādiyogī (first religionist), Mahādeva Śiva, in His form known as Dakṣiṇāmūrti, in the subcontinent of Bhārata (India). Lord Śiva (pron. “Shiva”) is universally recognized to be the first Avatar (“Avatāra”, in Sanskrit). an Avatāra is a man who is a pure embodiment of the Divine, enlightened from birth, and usually devotes His life to spreading transcendental knowledge. See the Glossary entry under “Avatāra” for a more extensive definition. Other sources claim that RELIGION began when Lord Brahmā spoke the “Veda” (“[Book of] Knowledge”) in ancient Sanskrit, the essential teachings of which are non-dual, that is to say, describe everything in existence having the same ground of being. In other words, “All is One” without a second. “Sarvam khalvidam brahma” (Chandogya Upanishad 3.14) teaches that “All this is indeed Brahman” (“Brahman” referring to the totality of existence/non-existence). Read the first few chapters of “F.I.S.H” to understand the concept of Peaceful-Conscious-Being. Whether or not these historical events really occurred is irrelevant to the purposes of this chapter, and to the implications of this Scripture. THE ORIGIN OF RELIGION ACCORDING TO THE WORLD TEACHER: In the considered opinion of this author, it is FAR more likely that religion began when human beings evolved to the necessary degree that we began experiencing spiritual awakenings, possibly about ten to twenty thousand years ago. This is plausible for the following two reason: FIRSTLY, the most ancient known metaphysical position, non-duality (“advaita”, in Sanskrit), is the most common conclusion of those who have undergone a spiritually-transformative experience commonly called “awakening”, “a peak experience”, “cosmic consciousness”, “unitive consciousness”, and far less accurately, “enlightenment”. So, when certain individuals began to experience such awakenings (either by observing some kind of contemplative practice, or most probably, entirely spontaneously), they would ponder their experiences from an intellectual perspective, and start to formulate explanations for their strange experiences. Subsequently, these “buddhas” (a Sanskrit/Pāli term for “an awakened being”) would most likely share their experiences with others, including those who had also experienced some kind of awaking, and in time, codify their realizations in the form of aphoristic verses, to be passed-on to their student disciples. Eventually, these aphorisms would be written-down and expanded-upon by succeeding generations, and come to be known as “Holy Scriptures”. Those who have studied the two oldest religious traditions (sanātana dharma and Judaism) will undoubtedly acknowledge my theory to be exceedingly credible, for the evidence is overwhelming once one explores the sacred texts, and considers the natural development of similar institutions. In the following chapter, the distinction between an awakening experience and the concept of spiritual enlightenment, will be clarified. SECONDLY, as alluded to above, it was necessary for the human species to sufficiently evolve (not only biologically, but even more importantly, socially and linguistically) to the level where we could reconcile our mystical experiences with our mundane daily lives, rather than focus our attention entirely on survival, especially before the agricultural revolution, approximately twenty thousand years ago. For the greater part of our history, we were preoccupied with gathering sufficient foodstuffs in order to simply stay alive. A sceptic could easily dismiss religion in general by noting that, because religion was not instantiated at the very commencement of the Homo sapiens species, it is merely a manmade institution, and therefore, extrinsic to our psyche. Hopefully, this book, taken as a whole, will prove that assertion to be a fallacious claim. I must admit that I too, when I was in my late teenage years, wondered why, if there really was a Supreme Deity, the reason for non-human animals seeming to not have any communion with the Divine. After all, if God truly exists, should not the other animals have some kind of intimate, personal relationship with their Heavenly Father? Of course, as explained elsewhere in this treatise, I now know that even the vast majority of humans who have ever lived were thoroughly deluded concerning their metaphysical perspectives of Ultimate Reality, and failed to establish genuine union with the Divine Principle, what to speak of the lower animals, which lack the requisite cognitive capacity to do so. THE DEVELOPMENT OF RELIGION: Since the prehistoric period, systems of religion have evolved, or have been revealed, by prophetic figures on the continent of ASIA. Supernatural mythologies and superstitions developed in other locations too, most of which featured animistic narratives and primitive rituals, but not quite to the same philosophical level of the monotheistic and monistic religions of Middle East Asia, Bhārata (India), and China. At present, there exists literally thousands of diverse religious teachings and spiritual paths, though they all necessarily conform to at least one of the four systems of yoga described below. This Holy Book is the culmination of several millennia of metaphysical understandings and moral/ethical rules (read: laws, or to be more precise, the law [“dharma”, in Sanskrit]) and accordingly, is the pinnacle of all religious teachings. Cont...
I don't see people being the best humans that they can be, so why should I trust some other person when he tells me that he knows the 'mind of God"? I doubt he even knows his own mind.
@@danfrancis2707You are partially correct that we dont need the jews, but european christianity is its own thing, and what build the west and western morality. Denigrating it or rejecting it is exactly what the jews want.
I would suggest you talk next about the demon cults and tribes that are destroying the west, specifically related to the judaic talmud
God isn't lost, man is.
man made god, if man is lost, then his creation is too
God abandons no man. There are only men who abandon God.
@@amalebowskyewho created mankind
@@HOENUMANthe universe
@@HIIIBEAR who created universe
I love the line from Carl Jung "Man does not create God, he chooses him."
Man do both. Just like the savage that forms and paints a piece of wood, kneels before it and worships.
@@alvarogabrielaguirregarin3933spoken like a product of a cheap, public school lower education. Education in the West is a scandal.
There are only two faiths. Faith in God, and faith in man. Man is not God. God created the Universe, the world, and life out of nothing. Man is the image bearer of God, always in rebellion against the Creator.
@@valerieprice1745 Jesus is both man and god
@@alvarogabrielaguirregarin3933😂bro you are not smarter than a genius stop trying
After my parents passed away, family became disconnected. I turned to God for answers- and, I am better still seeking to know intimately. It has brought a calm, a stength, and a knowing.
What's your relationship with God? Did you delve into a religion?
"When people stop believing in God; the danger isn't so much that they don't believe in, but that they will begin to believe in anything" -- H.L. Men in, 19th Century American Historian.
Those who believe in God also believe in anything because God’s omnipotence makes anything possible. Man coming from dirt? Man living to be 950 years old? Virgin birth? Winged horse to heave? Dinosaurs on a boat? All possible with God.
Idk which side this quote is supposed to be on lol.
I stopped believing in god because the religion told me to precisely believe in everything within its narrative without evidence. This is no freedom.
@@shadeaquaticbreeder2914 I interpret it as a variation on: _He who stands for nothing, will fall for anything._
1 Americanism 2 Racial Superiority 3 Consumerism 4 Drugs and hedonism 5 Gun culture 6 Rampant Capitalism 7 " Freedom"
Finding God is like climbing a mountain. At the bottom of the mountain there's thousands of paths you could walk, but the closer you get to the top the more the paths blend together. And at the very top there is only the one pinnacle of absolute oneness in total silence, stillness and peace.😊
Beautifully put
It's been a long, arduous climb, and I'm pretty sure I got lost on the forest trail, but now I can see the peak and where to go. Great analogy.
The ultimate.. the unnamed, the essence of all religion and spirit...
C.H. Rathbun hypnotherapy meditation here on KZhead based on A Course In Miracles can help, but it's just one of thousands of paths.
there is only one true Path, also known as the Way. the others are false, and dead ends.
"Heed these words, you who wish to probe the depths of Nature: If you do not find within your Self that which you seek, neither will you find it outside. If you ignore the wonders of your own House, how do you expect to find other wonders? In you is hidden the Treasure of Treasures. Know Thyself and you will know the Universe and the Gods." --Oracle of Delphi
now give me money and more drugs and make sure to thank my priests with a stipend. you forgot the last part where they used wisdom to extort the masses.
@@bas-tn3umAnother straw man argument. An argument against organized religion is not an argument against God. Most arguments I see are pretending like the faults of religion somehow invalidate belief in God. They're not mutually exclusive.
@@bas-tn3umThe statement in itself is very true. I don't know why politics had to be brought up.
"proceeds to get massacred for stealing money from their followers" - Lacedeamonian Gang
m.clearquran.com/downloads/quran-english-translation-clearquran-edition-allah.pdf#page12
We need Truth. Decay comes from believing/giving power to lies/things that aren't real.
Things like money…fractional reserve currency, that have no value. It’s funny and sad how we sacrifice everything for something that isn’t real. But good luck convincing everyone about this.
@@SC-gw8np doesn't matter if they are convinced. It's important that we speak the Truth into the universe and let the universe do it's job.
I agree. And the beliefs and rules of God are totally real and have been passed down for thousands of years so no idiot can say God was invented by just one person or group. If you ask Jesus into your heart and to touch your soul then you will feel something very real. Just try it.
Speak life - damian Marley
@@PolishBehemothUhh. Humanity is a group and those beliefs keep changing. So … what exactly is this about? Besides, I did the believer bit for a while, “felt the touch,” then realized I was using my mind to masturbate. Try religious abstinence-it’s much more fulfilling.
"He that has ears to hear...let him hear." ~ Jesus Christ
You do know that ears can also be used to apply copious amounts of spaghetti on top of them?
@@romany8125 Such advises are a lot safer for the common human to ... hear.
@@HeathenDance i assume you consider yourself uncommon?
@@romany8125 I don't eat fast food, I don't drink Coke and other sodas, I don't drive, I don't watch porn, I didn't take the Covid vaccines, I don't celebrate Christmas, and I wear Cannibal Corpse t-shirts, even if I'm dating fancy girls. Etc, etc. Statistically and objectively speaking, yes, I'm uncommon.
@@HeathenDance how predictably common of you to consider yourself uncommon.
Proverbs 1:17 : THE FEAR OF GOD, is the beginning of wisdom..”
The fear of death is the beginning of god.
Love based on fear is far from real love.There is no god,lighten up.
FEAR meaning respect, one of grievous mistranslations in the Bible.
No, Proverbs is wrong. Wisdom has nothing to do with fear.
@@digital6string1what is real love?
I swear, I just recently established my belief in deism after leaving a religion. I was looking for any video that might've mentioned something like that on my favorite channel of KZhead (you!), this video is what's recently uploaded and it piqued my interest. Watching it halfway and I just want to mention how it made me cry, it feels like a synchronicity. Thanks for uploading this video.
I would highly recommend the book/pdf ‘The Rediscovery of Wisdom’ by David Conway. This isn’t WHY I would recommend it, but as a cool fact it is the book that caused famous atheist philosopher Anthony Flew to accept general theism. Although I would say that it’s also possible that maybe there were many other factors that he wrestled with for years…and that book just pushed him over the finish line. Awesome book!!
It doesn’t feeli like a synchronicity, my man. It is one.
@@JoeBuck-uc3bl It is normal for an atheist to accept general theism. Atheism is based on a concept that no single school of supernatural thought can prove it is the one and only true factual belief. An acceptance of general theism does not contradict atheism. Some atheists continue to observe religious-linked events even though they did not necessarily believe in the supernatural literalism linked to these events. As the main character in the musical Fiddler on the Roof described it, people did certaint things because it was tradition. 😊😊
@@fortpark-wd9sx it caused Anthony Flew to “Believe” general theism. Yes of course, different people could intellectually believe in many different worldviews, and at the same time be accepting of opposing worldviews of others. When I said ‘Accepted’ I meant ‘Accepted as being true.’ “Atheism is the one and only true factual belief.” You do realize that in order to make such a bold claim you would have to follow it up proof that God doesn’t exist right? What would that proof be?
@@JoeBuck-uc3bl My earlier words were -)Atheism is based on a concept that no single school of supernatural thought can prove it is the one and only true factual belief. 😊😊
I am happy to have found your video… I have been thinking along these lines for a while now, but you have put how I have been thinking into (very eloquent) words. Thank you
Really great arguments to provoke different thinking, without confining anything to a specific view or religion. Very refreshing content. Thanks for sharing this for free.
so a fuckin cop out tell me how islam compares to christianity in a violence scale. factually speaking not your opinion based on facts which is more violent. the one that invaded over 300 countries over 1400 years or the ones that defended their religious allies. hinduism where human sacrifice was performed or christianity where it was outlawed. christianity is by no means perfect its a human ideology and belief system but i dare you to find human sacrifice calls to unjust war or a decree to conquer the world in it. go on ill wait. now watch you cherry pick muh homosexuals muh slavery muh religious wars. you cant acknowledge the difference between religions than you shouldnt get to criticize when one is favorited.
yes, I like that is a broad stroke that encompasses the general truth 😮
@@evanstentialyes, of course you do, because you hate Truth and Jesus. your profile picture of the all seeing eye is proof enough that you hate Christ and love freemasonry.
and for OP; No, snakes cant walk. But only because God has taken their legs, and left their stumps there to prove it to you 6-7k years later.
so a vague none specific sophistry? that you can call " spiritualism" while having no moral taboos im shocked.
God has never left us, we've been running from him. Join the Orthodox Church and be with our Lord, who died for us that we might live. God bless ☦️🕊🙏
I see God in the wind blowing through the trees and the birds that come say hi to me.
I like how his point in the video is more so acknowledging the strength and power in yourself, the unpredictable universe, and that we are not purposeless, yet everyone here is turning towards their theories on established religions and their corruptions. He literally said in the video that established religions have the potential to corrupt, and to be mindful of this corruption when studying it. It’s always the same in conversations like these. Everyone rushes to give their own theories instead of listening. That’s why we are lost. Everyone thinks they are the wisest, most correct. To be religious, that is to accept what cannot be changed in the world, what cannot be understood. To be humble. There is always something to be learned, don’t pretend that you’re greater or more awakened than everyone else. Just listen.
John 14 vs 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
your work is needed so much in this time; thank you
This is perhaps one of the best videos on KZhead. It behooves me to think that platforms like KZhead would actually allow it in todays modern way of thinking . I applaud Academy of Ideas . ❤ ❤❤
I think you put this video together very well. Thank you for including other sources to base your case from. You've done a great job! You said it better than I could think.
Outstanding presentation and message! 😇❤️☮️
Some people dont need god, others do. They have nothing in common, and should have respective subsocieties, that never intersect.
Well put together presentation - and timely.
Interesting topic! Fun video. Good points. Why did you use Jung and Migilcrest for so much of the video? I would have loved to hear more sources. Thanks!
This video is full of quotes of men's opinions, which are full of logical fallacies, false dichotomies, and false equivalencies; and which cannot be shown to be true and have been shown to be untrue. Spiritual experiences are self-deception, in the same way as when we watch a movie. We open ourselves up to the emotional experience and willfully suspend disbelief. No one is saying that the emotional experience isn't real, rather that which is behind it. This would all be harmless except that inevitably people become self-righteous and force others to follow their beliefs with the sword. We are seeing this currently in our society and around the world.
LOL
Name one society that thrives without God.
@@dukeofistria5712 Norway
@@Rook-00What does it mean to be without God?
Could it be said then that all philosophical and metaphysical concepts are therefore the results of men's opinions and therefore invalidated as you said? What about the idea of human rights? They only exist conceptually due to the opinion of the men who originally penned the idea
Hands down one of the best channels on KZhead. I just found it and am thankful I did. It gives validation to many of my thoughts and opinions. I've been saying for a long time we've replaced God with government is the reason for societal decay.
Yep. Human government is the manifestation of rebellion, hence a crisis.
We've not. God was used to justify power for centuries
@konyvnyelv. God says if you don't work, you don't eat. Government says you don't have to work. Vote for us, and we'll feed you, shelter you, and even pay you to make babies. So yes, we've replaced God with government and just look at the societal decay.
@konyvnyelv. the Lord says if you don't work, you don't eat. The other says, vote for us, and we'll shelter you, feed you, and pay you to reproduce. Sounds like a replacement
God says if you don't work, you dot eat. The government says vote for us, and we'll feed you, shelter you, and pay you to procreate.
Im working on a huge story all about the modern emptiness, and inauthenticity that has come from unsuccessful attempts at replacing god. Thanks for this. It helps tremendously.
I just want to say to the gentleman speaking these excerpts,You are the best speaker,and easy to hear, understandable and to the point.Thank You,for the truth of so many of our lives....and spreading peace to those who don't or unable to vocalize,and understand what is happening to them and their communities 😊😊😊😊😊
9:35 perfectly summarizes it. The average people are too weak, too uninterested in life, too lazy, and all those negative qualities. But should that be a reason to accept morality guided by society, or "God forbid" guided by religion? Not in my existence. Till the day that I die, I will every day spend the time and effort and hardships and discover and all those expanding and empowering qualities to experience the enigma of life. I cannot believe that in 2023 we can even have a discussion about this. Stop being lazy. Put in the work.
Exactly. God is false
Fantastic video!! So much to think about
Making ourselves Gods can only end catastrophic!!!!!!
Here's a ChatGPT summary: - Alexander Solzhenitsyn attributed the great disasters that befell Russia to people having forgotten God. - The video explores the role of religion, the concept of God, and the potential for a religious revival to address modern societal ills. - The five major religions (Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam) have outlasted secular movements and have been integral to societies throughout history. - Religion is defined as an attempt to connect humanity with the divine, involving rituals, worship, moral codes, and belief systems. - Swami Vivekananda and William James both emphasized the realization of God in the soul and harmonious adjustment to an unseen order as central to religion. - The concept of God varies, with lowercase 'god' referring to a divine being ruling the universe, and uppercase 'God' representing the ground of all being. - Ian MacGilchrist questions why anything exists at all, suggesting the answer lies beyond physical entities and is the ground of being. - The ground of being is beyond rationalization and is often symbolized in language, with different cultures having unique names for it. - Major religious traditions assert that God can be intimately encountered and directly experienced beyond conceptual comprehension. - Religious practices such as meditation, prayer, and attending ceremonies are meant to bring individuals into harmony with God. - Karen Armstrong and Vivekananda stress that religion requires practice and cannot be reduced to mere acceptance of dogmas. - William James notes that while some individuals can cultivate a connection with the divine independently, most benefit from established religious traditions. - Organized religions may be corrupted, and an eclectic approach to connecting with God may be more beneficial. - Religious experiences are profound, inducing feelings of harmony, compassion, and imbuing life with meaning and purpose. - Carl Jung and others argue that religious experiences are essential for a meaningful life and can act as salvation. - The decline in religion may lead to the rise of man-made gods, contributing to social ills. - George Steiner and Ian MacGilchrist discuss the dangers of worshipping ideologies, nations, or technology as replacements for divine God. - Carl Jung and others suggest that a religious revival can prevent the worship of false idols and promote individual and societal flourishing. - Utilitarianism is criticized for its lack of inherent respect for individuals, and religion is seen as a counter to this through promoting humility, compassion, and reverence. - Religion can empower individuals to stand up against corrupt authority by healing despair and providing psychological and physical health benefits. - Religious ideas have historically served as "mental pharmacies," offering ways to cope with life's challenges. - Religion generates meaning, providing structure and purpose to life, and can inspire resistance against destructive societal forces. - Academy of Ideas offers membership for those interested in exploring the insights of history's greatest thinkers to navigate life's challenges. Main message: - The video argues that religion and a connection to a divine God are essential for individual well-being and societal health, suggesting that a religious revival could counteract the rise of man-made gods, promote moral values, and empower individuals to resist corrupt authority and address modern societal ills.
Chat gpt is just as lost as real humans are, blurting out the same religious propaganda most of us have been sold since birth. comforting in a darkly comedic way. it'll probably even start to convince itself that *it* believes in God LoL
@@egrytznr8893 not sure what you are rambling on about. ChatGPT just took the exact transcript of this video and summarized it. I think the summary is accurate.
@@mbrochh82 sorry I didn't really read the whole comment or the response LoL my bad. I must have got you mixed up with the dude who asks ChatGPT for opinions about these videos, my mistake I see now it's a just summary I overlooked that both times 😬, I still don't see the point but to each their own.
@@egrytznr8893 hehe, ok under that light your comment makes more sense. I add those summaries to my Obsidian notes app. It is an incredibly helpful tool. ie I watch a lot of videos about nutrition, and after a while, all these little facts accumulate in my notes.I can then use another AI tool to ask a question like "What do I know about the impact of Vitamin D on sleep" and the tool will find all relevant summaries, add them to a prompt and let ChatGPT answer my question based on my own knowledge (not based on the bullshit it was trained on). Also, there are incredibly long podcasts, like the recent Lex Fridman + Tucker Carlson podcast... 3hrs... who the hell has time to listen to three hours of those dudes being nice to each other? In any given 3hr podcast the amount of real actionable tangible insights is maybe 15 minutes. These summaries extract exactly that knowledge and ignore all the fluff and padding. It is a huge time saver.
Religious morality means killing those who disagree
The ones who know, know. It resonates with them and they understand what Academy is talking about. The others will scoff and mock, as they've never experienced the divine.
"divine" is a chemical reaction in your body.
This seems like a dichotomy fallacy my friend. There are many other possible outlooks that others may choose to hold. I’m not sure it’s wise to expose a lack of thought in the comment section of a KZhead channel that is designed to help uncover truth.
There are many atheists who were once very religious people. They have experienced the divine and left the faith.
@TheOsamaBahama That would be a lie or evidence that man can experience the divine and still fall away from it due to his own faults. It's a ridiculous assertion to claim that if one believed in something and then later did not believe it, that thing must be false. Plenty of people discard good and rational beliefs for inferior, immoral and irrational ones due to their own failings. This is not a refutation of divinity or religion, but an affirming of it. As many religions warn that even the greatest can fall. Your point is thus not evidence of what you have claimed, but an affirmation of the exact opposite.
It depends. What do you mean by "experiencing the divine"? Something happened once or a couple times that made you feel a certain way? Something you cant explain?
Humans need some sort of panopticon to keep their moral compass straight. And even with a strong religious ethos people commit atrocities, sometimes in the name of God
People ignore their conscience for all kinds of reasons, simple as that
There is only one law that needs to be taught and ingrained from childhood. The law of causality. Cause, intention and effect. There is no need for a man-made-up god or organized religion.
@@thomasgriffith2953 though many people do horrible things and many times they pay no price or have any consequence for it. Not even in the life that continues after this one ends. We will continue to hang out and mingle with the ones who are like us. Kindred spirits, good or bad. What gets under my skin the most is that these bad people get away with it forever, always having their free agency. I suppose being selfish is their consequence.
If you need the fear of eternal damnation in order to behave and act as a human around others then, you to begin with are not practicing your religion or even really care about it's principles or essence, it showcases and social and cultural failure as well
Fixed morality ends when you think no-one is looking. It also ends when you elevate yourself as arbiter.
This is a very good video containing a lot of interesting and truthful information. I've experienced God myself and was able to meet him a couple of times so I can confirm some of the information provided here.
I do not need any gods to have a decent life.
We gave up religion and philosophy to pursue math and science to solve mans problems....but they didn't....man.is not a math problem to be solved but a paradox
I think pretending to have a relationship with an imaginary friend sounds like a major problem.
It's a bit more sophisticated than that. It's having a relationship with the best version of humanity (as per religion) and trying to pull yourself closer to it. The order and direction this brings is worth the effort to most people.@@grandfathernurgle2840
How many assumptions in that position ?@@grandfathernurgle2840
This false dichotomy needs to stop. It’s secular propaganda. Some the greatest scientists and mathematicians are people of faith. Science and math denote that there is an order to the universe and that truth can be known. Today we’re less scientific we can’t even tell a man from a woman because secular ideology tells us that not offending people is more precious than truth
@@grandfathernurgle2840then why does it solve so many other problems? Back to reddit with you
Socities have collapsed many times since the discovery of god. The big three are responsible for wiping out many of those societies. Hinduism being one of the few that has not sought to convert or wipe out none believers.
Hinduism just slaughters thousands of animals. You know nothing about that religion.
The father that had cast out angel . That angel is never a creator. Love thy Father in heaven. Be thankful for what works jesus has done lately.
I have come to believe, in the face of overwhelming evidence, both anecdotal and interpretive, that consciousness is universal. Further I believe that which we call self is an isolated portion of that consciousness. Isolated by mechanism and for reasons unknown. The attempt to define that isolation in terms of the universal is the goal, purpose, and origin of all religion. It is obvious that we struggle against that isolation, primarily through religion. It is detrimental to abandon that struggle, because it enhances rather than abates the negative effects of that isolation. Bad things do indeed happen when we forget God, by whatever name he is called. Bad things happen when we passively accept being alone.
Wow, this was great. You put it so well. Thank you. Cultivate a religious disposition, worry less about labels.
find Christ, not religion.
@@darnellpistachio2991This.
@@darnellpistachio2991 Get rid of Christ. There are other religions.
How about combining the best parts of all religions together? I would join this religion.
@@bastiaan7777777religion without a "God"?
It is good to be a free person and to choose what to believe. Various philosophers could be wrong, there is no one correct religion.
dude i love your videos ❤
An all knowing God, knows the evidence I need to be convinced of his existence. An all powerful God is able to provide that evidence. An all loving God would want to.
great video thanks for the upload
Decay of society happens when people forget we are all connected!
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Sounds like Marx's "man as a social animal" schtick.
Beautiful message. Yehoshua changed me, IS CHANGING me, the real second chance.
To know God is to know the person who happens to be God. True religion, then, is a relationship, and the deeper pursuit of that relationship.
The problem with man is that he thinks there’s nothing greater than himself.
We need an objective basis from which to formulate morality. The most ubiquitous basis informing moral human behavior is conscience. Once the strong antropic principle is understood as postulated by physicist prof. John Wheeler, supported by the quantum physical reality of the double slit experiment, showing collapse of energy waves into particulate matter thru observation, then one can conclude that intention of an external observer is required for the creation of a physical universe.
Good thoughts, but the double slit experiment can in theory be explained without a conscious observer. What collapses the wave function could be the interactive nature of observation, i.e the detector's photons physically influencing the fired particles/waves. That would be the reason we don't see quantum effects at macroscopic scales - objects bigger than an elementary particle simply can't avoid getting hit by all kinds of radiation and have no choise but to stay collapsed and "real".
@@htth3152 Yes. However, the thoughts are not my own but those of the most renown physicists who ever lived. Additionally, the mathematical reality evident in the fabric of the universe along with the required precision of universal physical constants to maintain equilibrium cannot be most reasonably explained by mere probability. Until better evidence prevails the most likely theory is that some external observer has provided the kind of order we measure, as well as the existence of The living cell, Broca's and Wernicke's areas and the human conscience, none of which has ever been adequately explained by natural processes of evolution.
@@htth3152 while many theories have arisen from the double slit, resulting in the copenhagen interpretations, it was shown that two different groups of scientists, believing in different experimental outcomes, produced outcomes that each group believed would result. This shows that strong intention of the macroscopic directly and immediately effects elementary particles. Also any number of experiments have shown how strong intention absolutely produces changes at the macroscopic levels. While changes start with elementary particles, those microscopic effects progressively effect larger states of matter. Fortunately, this delay between intention and physical manifestation, at macroscopic levels occurs, otherwise there would be utter chaos if all matter instantly responded to all intention. The degree of macroscopic change depends on many variables such as number of particles involved, rate of energetic vibration and power density, as well as any externally existing counteracting intentions.
No it doesn't conclude anything like that. The thing is that we don't know the ontology of quantum mechanics.
@@nandhakishor2659 yes it does include many things like that. The ontology you speak of can be derived based on probability, which is established science. Numerous scientific experiments have shown this to be the case. In fact, most of the great scientists, including Einstein were convinced there was some guiding organizing intelligent force that gave design and order to the universe and all creation. If you have more proof than they did, present it.
This so brilliantly combines so many thoughts and idea's that I'm thinking about (strugling with?) myself, it even quotes all the books I recently read. It so seems to me that you (and perhaps many others) went on the same path from atheism to all kinds of science and philosophy, ultimately and inevitable ending up at Gods doorstep. And with indeed the extremely important distinction between the rational true "Ground of being" God, and not the arbitrary "Engineering guy in the sky" god.
I was having a deep chat with a close friend recently in which he state something along the lines of "There are many new young 'prophets' being created from the newfound divisive nature of society/civilization thesedays; they all just have nowhere/nobody to aim their efforts as most of the congregations or similar forms of open-discourse have been eroded.
The church is you, wherever you are. That’s what Christianity really is about, Christ is in you
The ayatollahs haven't forgotten god, nor pedo priests, ian paisley, israeli settlers and other wonderful creatures. We only need the golden rule: treat others like you want to be treated yourself.
We don't need God we need education and good life. We are not that important, vanity is the worst sin.
"We don't need God" and then you refer to "sin". Which is it? Without God there is no concept of sin. Vanity is neither good or bad without the concept of God because good and evil doesn't exist outside that concept either. Try to make that statement and really leave God out of it. It's impossible. Welcome to now understanding we do need God because that's what our entire society is founded on. Every law, every moral, every belief.
I am using the word "sin" so the regular people can understand me better. So, you are saying that before the "coming of God" the people or the civilizations on this planet had no notion of morals of what is good or bad, no laws and no beliefs? The very principles of Democracy that every modern country swears by today were founded in a "Godless society" that is unless you count Zeus and crew as God...Give your head a shake.@@debanydoombringer1385
@@debanydoombringer1385 There is no god.
Superb work, thank you for sharing
God and religion are two mutually exclusive concepts. In fact, they are diametrical opposites in many ways, particularly as far as Natural Law is concerned.
Considering many ancient civilizations collapsed while predominantly being religous, no its not about god, its about human greed being unchecked by the masses
"And I turned inward toward myself alone. I perceived the Light that surrounds me and the Good that is in me. I became divine." --Allogenes (NHL Codex XI) "Look well into thyself; there is a source of strength which will always spring up if thou wilt always look there." --Marcus Aurelius
The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. - Moses (Genesis 6:5)
For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. - Jesus (Matthew 24: 37-39)
@@hlriiiviiiv9570the heart is deceitful above all things.
We can never find God by searching in ourselves. Thats literally what Stalin and Hitler believed.
God isn’t lost, never has been, but has been ignored, spat on, abused, laughed at, disdained. Hmmmm wonder if He is a little ticked? One thing for sure He is not wringing His hands wondering what to do. His plan is playing out perfectly, prophesy is being filled right before our eyes. Trust in Jesus and let him take the wheel.
This is a beautiful conversation …….🌞
"And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon God they'd made"
That sounds and looks like Materialism. Where practically unconscious people worship sensual pleasure as the highest truth.
Materialism is great.
I just joined an Eastern Orthodox Church near me about a month ago after spending the last 20 years an agnostic, and it has been a beautiful experience. Without God, I felt empty. With God, I feel purpose.
Lord, Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner ☦️
@@davidstone5595 Amen, my Brother.
I feel the same way about Santa Claus. I never used to believe in Him when I was a child, but now that I'm an adult I know the truth. He has profound wisdom. He knows when you're naughty or nice. Without Him, my life has no meaning. Ho ho ho, Merry Christmas everyone!
@@davidstone5595you are brainwashed by a fictional book into believing that you are a “sinner.” A prime example of the issue with major religions. I recommend you taking an interest in psychology and studying how the mind works. Living your life with such negativity about yourself is not healthy.
@@bruha321 That's cool, I guess. Maybe someday you'll grow out of liking secular fairy tales - or perhaps not, is doesn't matter to me either way. Who am I to judge you for your beliefs?
Everybody wants a piece of the holy mountain. Religion may help the individual, but when the individual begins harming others in the name of that religion, society will continue its decay. Keep religion where it belongs, in peoples imaginations, not in governance.
I needed this video so much
First video of yours I've watch and not felt like you have taken abit of my soul away, I really enjoyed this, when a society looses its spirit, GAME OVER
Hi, check for Marshall V. Summers and his work if you will.
Yes, we need God and God needs us, praise Jesus.
When we turn our back on righteousness chaos ensues… seek God first, all else will be added on to you.
Great video
We don’t need God. We need to take responsibility over our actions and stop using heaven and metaphysics to justify our actions.
Literally impossible
That would do us a lot of good ! 👍👍
You can't argue for morality at all without metaphysics. Only in a metaphysical framework can morality be something of true significance anyways. Without metaphysics, morality is just a biological drive, and people can train themselves to ignore it to their own (or their group's own) material benefit. Should we do that? Would that be good?
@@arditienthusiast8384exactly how?
@@EBR.402 You're seriously asking me that? I cannot believe you've existed in this world for more than 10 years and don't intuitively understand through pure life experience that people are not going to do that. I don't even a theological argument for that its so blatantly obvious to any human being.
One of the longest video I've seen in this channel. It means the things are serious. Like it!
It’s getting real
The awareness of God deep in soul inspires respect for all the creator has created and directs a person to connect.The failure of religion does inspire nihilism the door to enlightenment the search for understanding for a select few . Society would be better served if religion replaced with indigenous wisdoms and teachings.
Stupendously Superb work.
Man will never be truly free until the last King is strangled with the entrails of the last Priest - Voltaire
communist countries like the USSR got rid of the tsar, church but still kept the gulags
@@patc6146 The USSR hasn't existed for decades! There are churches all over Russia now!
Another fantastic video. Love this channel...love the subject matter. Very well done!
There is a universal God that varies among different culture of peoples. No one version of God of a culture should cancel another. Everything good for man comes from God. Anything bad for man is solely man's doing. Religions are collections of beliefs to make life productive to self and community. Sadly man corrupts everything including religion and make it exclusive and totalitarian. Follow a belief, cultural or your own, that practices good to self and community.
It is Mind which leads to God...Mind is the key to the Garden,so to cultivate the Garden of the Soul is ones true calling which is where we all long to be...❤
great video! Your explanations are profoundly insightful.
I started watching your videos when i was at one of the lowest point in my life. I have always liked the content, the editing, your story telling. I have always thought you were more an « atheist » than a believer (maybe because of your videos about Nietzsche) and this is maybe why i related more to your previous videos since i always had a hard time with religion. Now that i’m seeing this one i’m a little bit « confused » but i guess your way of thinking is always evolving. Nevertheless i think it’s maybe starting again an everlasting debate and create a form of manicheism that your channel always allowed to avoid. NB : i really enjoy your work and i’m grateful for the content you created
The entire point he's making is that organized religion, or mainstream religion, is corrupted. But it's still possible to have a personal religious experience and a personal relationship with God. Without having to follow any sort of rules or attend any sort of ceremony or graduation. Believing in a higher power doesn't mean you have to follow a rigid set of rules. Only you and this higher power know who you really are deep down inside. And only this higher power truly knows you personally. This higher power that you have an experience doesn't have to have it's own book. You make the rules of your own religion and beliefs. That is what a true personal religious experience is. You don't have to run towards any organized religion after having this type of experience. It's yours and was meant specifically for you. Not corrupted religion.
Tl;Dr "it was good until I personally disagreed"
christianity has always been the peak of western morality and athiesm is a judaic religion, wake up.
All religions are based upon the limitations of the beliefs required by their believers. Their rules and rituals are imagined by men. Yet creation is nothing if not infinite possibility. Gods are the product of the minds of men, yet all that is has a Creator. I do not have a god, I have a Creator. I no longer hold beliefs. There is what I know, what I don't know, what I'm aware of, and what I'm not currently aware of. For what is knowledge without awareness? The kingdom of heaven lies within. It can be found nowhere else, and none may provide it for you.
Couldn't have said it better.@@animoetprudentia2865
I can appreciate that "firmly rooted in the divine, we will possess the courage to resist corrupt authority and to act as a force of good in the world" (24:02). There is, however, a gap to fill: the specific divine moral code that will define "corrupt" and "good". Advocating for general religious inclination doesn't seem to cut it. With so many avenues to go down for a religious life, isn't it the one that is truly of divine origin that will point us in the opposite direction of societal decay? I'm not asking rhetorically, as I seek an answer to this question myself. Thanks for all you do :)
Glad u mentioned vivekananda extensively, he was a genius
If we keep on putting religion and state over humanity, we will end up with neither.
nope, if we put humanity over God then we dont have humanity
“Humanity” is made-up word with no real meaning. Its a trick…
The problem is replacing religion with state. The Bolsheviks tried this in Russia and eventually failed. The west is doing the same elevating the state as the ultimate source of well being and care, and is failing just as the ussr did. When God is abandoned from a society human nature which is inherently selfish takes over and destroys it. We live in a fallen world, exist in a fallen state and only the recognition of this allows us to move towards God.
@@Eldaniel300 Excellent reply.
@@Rook-00 Nope, why do you said that? nietzsche critique against prots or what?
If you bring forth that which is within you, it will save you. If you do not bring forth that which is within you, it will destroy you. I suppose I take this to mean, that if I do good to myself and others, by my works and kind acts, I benefit myself and others. If I am selfish and am motivated by my greed or a laissez faire attitude, I perpetuate the wrongs in society and in my dealings with others and that will, imposes itself on others behavior and hurts everyone, including myself. The grievance culture we live in is so derisive. Arrogance and Narcissism seem to be the norm in society these days and very, very little Humility anywhere... neither in politics, nor religion nor, in the sciences we adhere to. I believe that all things can be improved by pure and simple Humility. Are we humble enough to forgive... the wrongs done to us or to our predecessors? The wrongs done to nature? The wrongs done...? If not then we are doomed to perpetuate... Good luck! Be humble if you can. 🙏🤞❤
Lots of timeless wisdom in the Gospel of Thomas. A must read, along with the rest of the NHL.
We need good people. There are good people who don't believe in a monolithic God and there are bad people who believe in such deities.
The only problem I have with all discussions about God, Allah, Brahman in the Western world, is that the pronoun for God is always “he.” As a female, it is difficult to internalize God as a “he.” In studying gender in language, results show that females have more difficulty in understanding concepts when the male pronoun is used. That is probably why there are goddesses and the Virgin Mary in Catholicism. Unfortunately, the pronoun “it” does not work too well either. However, when we say “Spirit,” the pronoun “it” becomes easier to digest. I don’t have an answer. I know I prefer “humankind” to “mankind.” Perhaps someone here might have an insight. I invite your suggestions.
Are we going to repeat the same thing again with believing in God and then a group of people exploiting that faith (again) to the point where the masses will be willing to break even the most basic rules of said faith (again) because as we've learned people in great numbers are easy to control?
exploitation doesn't stop/start with religion, it starts with sheep who are too stupid to think for themselves. religion is merely one of many organized options.
What difference does it make, many worse things happen without exploiting religion. The worst people in the world aren't religious. Secularism isn't doing any good. Just the tragedies of the WWII secularists outdo all of the religiously related tragedies. All totalitarians are Atheist. All serial killers are atheists. All doctors who perform G.A. care surgeries on kids are atheists. The WEF are atheists.I could go on forever. This "religion causes horrible things" narrative is a farcical premise. HUMANS DO HORRIBLE THINGS!!
You find that with any ideology outside of religion though. Didn't the same happen with many activist groups? Various philosophical ideologies as well? The worst parts of human nature ruin everything regardless of what it is.
Mases are very easy to control now and before. But you have to add the degenerative path that many people take because now just there is no moral limit.
@@skyereave9454yes! That's why I love the teachings of Christ. He talks about the hypocrisy that people bend to in order to treat other people like garbage or to fuel their crazy ideologies and catastrophes.
Excellent, as always! ❤
“Apathetic and cowardly” sums up our current society without a higher being. We can’t worship ourselves we’re too flawed.
Thanks!
Excellent video
I'll never be religious. No matter what religion or faith system I've encountered or tried to interact with every single one culminates to a means of manipulation to move the masses. Religion and faith is just a tool to ostracize those you don't agree with. The only thing I can discern from this existence is that life must continue; Where there is life there is possibility. Too often is religion a means of division. I do not want to barter this thing we call a soul for a better afterlife. The only thing that matters to me is using my life to make the lives of those whom come after mine better. I don't care what comes of my "soul" as long as their lives are better. The essence or soul of an omniscient omnipotent being is inconsequential. The concept of god is just an illusion we use to maintain hope but all it is really doing is keeping us from realizing hope comes from within not this external force. Our perception, conception and connection to the idea of any God comes from within an individual human or a collaborative of human minds. There for any perception of a god is what a man or woman chooses for themselves to validate his or her own actions or beliefs. Belief in any god is a subjective truth for self, Not an objective truth for everyone else.
That depends entirely on whether or not you understand the definition of God that all religions share. It's not a person or being. It can be explained in a way even an anti-theist can understand. The belief in God and the belief in a single religion are two very different things.
Many historians have noted that Rome fell after it became a christian nation. Think about that.
Clear. Concise. Wonderful. Jung said atheism is the modern urban neurosis. PS, would love if you could caption the paintings, they're tremendous.
Literally the best video on this channel 🙌 it's not so much that the world needs God(which it does seeing all the immorality and utter lack of shame in which ppl are acting nowadays) but rather that the individual needs God. A deep intimate relationship with the divine through prayer and a devoted lifestyle, why nothing makes a person vibrate on a higher level or fills their life with greater meaning.
I have studied various religions and still do til this day. But i have come to a realization the many religions have very good practices but i do not attach myself to any religion. One of the teachings i actually practice is non attachment, a buddhist teaching which is very useful. I don't like organized religions, but i like the various practices they teach. It's much better to study the various religions than to stay attach to one particular religion. Plus another thing is when you do study various religions, you can see a central theme they all share.
Amen And A different idea to ponder... Why are these verses always ignored? 1Tim. 2:3-6 ~...God our Savior, who will have "ALL" men to be saved and come to the knowledge of truth...(to be TESTIFIED in DUE TIME.) Isa. 29:24 ~They that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine. 1Cor.15:22 ~ As in Adam "ALL" die even so in Christ shall "ALL" be made alive. Rom.5:18 ~Therefore as by the offense of one {Adam} judgment came upon "ALL" men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one{Jesus Christ}the free gift came upon "ALL" men unto justification of life. {Jesus restored what Adam messed up) Luke 23:34 ~ Then said Jesus, Father forgive them for they know not what they do. 1Tim.4: 9-11 ~...Trust in the living God, Who is the Savior of "ALL" men "SPECIALLY" those that believe. Psalm136:5~To him that by wisdom made the heavens: for his mercy endures for ever. × 26ish times John 17:2 ~ As thou hast given him power over "ALL" flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.(Jesus is given power over ALL flesh.) [A slight reach here] *Col.1:20 ~...by him [Jesus] to reconcile "ALL" things unto himself... things in earth and in heaven. Isaiah 19:22 ~And the Lord shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the Lord. 1Cor.3:13-15... If any man's works shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 1John 2:2 ~ And he is the "propitiation (payment) for" our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the "sins of the whole world". 1Tim. & 1Peter ~ I think? ~...Turn them over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved.? 2Cor.5:18-21,Eph.entirebook,Phil.2:10-11, Rom.10:13&11:32&14:11, 1Tim.4:9-11, Col.1:18-20, 2Tim.2:8-20,/1Cor.5:5,1Tim.1:20, Phil.3:19, and many others~ Trust God ~ Jesus did great things, listen to Him. Below is rambling unrelated information concerning where we live & other points (and the lies we are told)~ IMHO The earth is not spinning thru space ~50+yrs perfect circle globe earth, with fake "photos"~now its pear shaped ~Why the lie? No North-South Circumnavigation, ever~Why? No real "photographs" of earth from space~ Why not? No camera facing earth on moon ~ Why not? No earth curve ~Why not? Look into earth shape & earth movement and moonlandings. Search on KZhead ~( not "flat earth society"
I have studied various religions I also read tons of fiction
It's only a good idea if none of those religions are actually true. If there really is a God, and heaven and hell, you won't impress him with your Coexist bumper sticker.
@@josephbrandenburg4373 Or prayer. Or assumptions....
God was never lost. Some of humanity carries it within.
And knowledge is the beginning of understanding 😊
Thank you for asking. We don't (need imaginary ruler).
"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14
God only appeared in the minds of men about 4000 years ago. Where was this God for the hundreds of thousands of years before this? Nowhere!
We need BELIEF, not religion. Religion corrupts and is always intermingled with politics. Kills every spirituality. We need to return to gnostic teachings of Cathars and Bogomils. "I put no stock in religion. By the word religion, I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of God. I've seen too much religion in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves."
NOO! We dont need mumbojumbo. Stop promoting your ideologies!