Antikythera Fragment #10 - Ancient Tool Technology - The Workshop
G'day folks,
In this latest Fragments video I have a go at recreating some aspects of the #Ancient #Workshop that are indicated in the mechanism. Do please enjoy!
Cheers,
Chris.
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Research sources/References:
An Archaic metallurgical workshop in Thasos Greece the case of Charitopoulos plot - bit.ly/3mLpbsh
An experimental study of early bronze smithing techniques - bit.ly/3Dz2ttq
An experimental study of some early copper smithing techniques - bit.ly/3jssBxT
Examination of Greek bronze helmets : sampling and project design - bit.ly/3Dz2L3u
Experimental archaeometallurgy in perspective - bit.ly/38uNLoY
From Homer to Hoplite: Scientific Investigations of Greek Copper Alloy Helmets - bit.ly/3gMp5MY
Experimental simulation study of prehistoric bronze working: Testing the
effects of work-hardening on replicated alloys - bit.ly/38sEE83
Technical Examination of Greek Helmets - bit.ly/3ztjrXz
The Composition of the Copper Alloys used by the Greek, Etruscan and Roman Civilisations, Pt 2 - bit.ly/3ywPqoC
Towards an Appreciation of Minoan Metallurgical Techniques - bit.ly/3mO0ICx
Oikos and Oikonomia: Greek houses, households and the domestic economy - bit.ly/3yIkD8t
House and Society in the Ancient Greek World - bit.ly/3zxQji1
Water Management in Ancient Greek Cities - bit.ly/3ysSOAB
A Companion To Greek Architecture - bit.ly/3zxImcp
The Greek house and the ideology of citizenship - bit.ly/3kIANJM
A review of courtyard house: History evolution forms, and functions - bit.ly/3DyqJM7
Fire and smoke: hearths, braziers and chimneys in the Greek house - bit.ly/3t257CY
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I swear watching him blend brass pins into other brass components is like the ultimate black magic to me.
I might have to go watch the clock playlist again :)
We need to have a battle between Clickspring and Baumgardener Restorations.
@@JohnDlugosz Lol, I'm just watching that now. Add Alec Steele in to the mix.
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honestly, watching those pins just disappear is the most satisfying thing ever
Welcome back Chris, everything will be alright with the world for the next 19 minutes.
Brazil may be at the verge of a military coup d’etat, but not in these 19 minutes
Dear R. 1st Even longer because ABBA is reunited!!! ;-) Best regards, luck and health.
Ya, but have you seen my pre-historic workshop? It's just a cave that I walk around in. Some would say I am a meanderthal.
I laughed waaaay too hard at that, even harder when I saw who said it.
Oh hand tool, you know you rushed to his new episode just as fast as us you awesome caveman.
Meanderthal...I see what you did there. Think I'm going to have to "borrow" (coughcoughbullshitcough) that one. :-D
When they showed you the light did you walk out or keep believing in the shadows?
I thought having a pun in Canada required a license....
The world is healing and all it took was a "g'day, Chris here".
I know, right? It's like when there's been a constant annoying noise you forget about and only notice when it stops. The world's a better place with Chris doing his thing in it.
I got tingles when he said that.
All we need now is an appearance from This Old Tony. Things will be set right then.
Great to see you back, Chris! You’ve been missed.
He really has
I saw the first episode of this series and was about to start my first day at uni. Now I am still watching this series except haven completed a mechanical engineering degree.
My dad and I have watched this series since the first episode. This if the first that’s came out while I’ve been away at university and I can’t wait to call and talk to him about it.
I love how he goes right into it, like it hasn't been 14 years since his last video!
HES BAAAAAACCCKKK! SOUND THE ALARMS! LIGHT THE BEACON! Good to see you posting again!
The Beacon of Gondor is lit!
I see this video is unlisted. I got here from the Casting a Roman Oil Lamp video. This was a suggestion in the top right corner. Sorry for being here Early!
Great to have you watching Sam :)
5 years from now, when this thing is finished, it's going to belong in a museum as much as the original. Masterpiece!
Wonder what Value it will have. Being so precisely made? Not that this is about financial gain. This mechanism is built as close as we can tell to the original almost a copy of the original. Priceless?
@@stuartd9741 basically yes since it doesn't only involve a recreation as close as possible to the original mechanism but also is sort of a case study on how it might have been built without access to any power tools. ofc he does use them but only after having a go with his selfmade more primitive tools to proof it CAN be done without machining. the craftsmanship and time going into this thing is insane still. you have to really wonder how long it took quite some people to build the original mechanism back in their day since they couldn't speed up the process with a little machining here and there.
@@Dunkelelf3 Indeed. I won't begrudge Chris for using machinery as it's all about the passion. Even thou he uses modern technology. At least 70% is done traditionally. The attention to detail is indeed insane and patience of a saint! ... It does go to show the meticulous methodology required to build the mechanism let alone during millennia ago. I would disagree on the no power tools It is conceivable, the ancient Greeks used water wheels to power a lathe via pulleys and belts. Or use livestock (ox) to rotate large pulleys again to power tools. This is how they lifted sandstone blocks when building medieval cathedrals. Thou there were "hamster" type wheels humans walked in (circles) to do the same when at height and some churches are + 250ft high. Point being, machinery is possible without water power or fire. We just haven't found any examples around the ancient Greek period sadly. Also have to consider the techniques used to build the pyramids too.
@@stuartd9741 well i'm not saying they didn't have the technology to build things. neither am i saying they didn't have some form of machinery. what i'm saying is that they didn't have the precission machinery like a lathe and whatnot he is using that can cut a rod of brass down to an exact diameter within seconds. something that would take forever to do by hand and even then would be nowhere near as perfect. the thing really isn't only the mechanism itself but also the amount of astronomical knowledge that went into this machine so that it was able to predict future solar eclipses hundreds of years into the future and basically was an analog computer or really a model of the solar system for solar and lunar events aswell as the 5 known planets. the amount of precission required is insane and it is even more mindblowing that it was done with far more primitive tools than we would have at our disposal today.
@@Dunkelelf3 I agree. I know you wasn't suggesting ancient Greeks didn't have machinery. I was just putting some ideas out there that could have been used. The astronomical knowledge required to build the mechanism is truly mind blowing. Suggesting many years of study. It is conceivable they had a rudimentary pedal type lathe that spun 180° in either direction via pedal power. Thou I do wonder how or what form shape the smelted brass took. They didn't have rod or plate brass . The more one delves into the mechanism the more complex it becomes on so many levels.
It's almost poetic watching Chris use these ancient techniques with ancient tools while we are on our miniature pocket multimedia device using some of the most advanced techniques man has to assemble. As always, this is a masterclass in history and metalworking.
I just realized how much I appreciate your cadence and tempo of the way you speak, it allows you to present the information in a satisfying and detailed way.
I watch a lot of videos on 1.25x-2x speed, but with Clickspring I can't. Not because I can't understand him that way, but because it feels wrong. His calm delivery is so soothing. I'd be missing out.
Ayyy he's back! :D
There are just so many reasons that this is the best series ever uploaded that I cannot even pick a single one.
There just aren't enough words to describe how much I appreciate every single aspect of these videos.
The ne plus ultra of KZhead content, one guy said. +1
Just when the world needed him the most, he returned!
So true!
@Pablo Estafez The truth is out there.
@Pablo Estafez That's a legitimate hypothesis; except that it doesn't account for one detail... Look at the quality of Chris' work. No matter how over budget or over due, you don't find that comming out of a government programme. ;-P
I have waited so long for this!! i'm fascinated by this whole series, the process is such a beautiful one to witness. Keep them coming!!
Every time we get a scene of the "ancient" workshop I am instantly reminded of videos of modern day workshop videos from India, Pakistan and other countries from that region. The feel is the same. And I've seen most of the tools mentioned here in one or another of those videos, even the post anvil. Including an innovation from one of the craftsmen, where they stuck some of the post anvils into circular weights that look like millstones. So that they could roll them around for portability.
Welcome back, its great to hear the words 'G'day Chris here" after so long! Your work is so thorough that it is more impressive than a PhD thesis.
He took such a long break from videos on Antikythera 'cause he made some new discovery about the mechanism while studying it and took time off to write a paper about it, so yeah... fits with the PhD thesis :))
Please put all of these together as some sort of complete documentary once you've completed the build. This has been an incredible journey you've allowed us to follow along with.
I agree
I so agree with this. I'd buy that!!!
I would definitely buy that
He does a complete video, or at least he did with the clock, when the project is done.
of course he will, the real challenge is you living old enough to see that happen
Ahhh, the beguiling voice of the master maker. Everything else is forgotten as you take us into your wonderful world. Thank you Chris.
NileRed: 4 months Micheal Cthulhu: 5 months Clickspring: 8 months All of you posting new videos within 5 days of each other: priceless
Haha! I was just lamenting how long it had been since the last video. Started rewatching the series just last night. Can’t wait for more!
The finest creator of our lifetime.
👍👍
Oh shit, this jumps all my queues and watch laters! Perhaps the mechanism was someone's masterpiece, taking a while year to really be complete while inventing new tools and processes along the way. Now you are following the steps. And the series turn into a research project and documentary. You can feel the passion. The most satisfying part is always how the pins get driven through the parts, and just melt into it after the fine work. Being practically invisible
It was made in China
@@DirtyRobot proof?
I love how you call this a fragment, yet there is more information and content in this 19 minute video that in pretty much every hour long documentary I've ever watched. Keep up the great work Chris. Great to have you back.
Chris! Amazing to see you back! So after Covid is over I'll come down to Oz and we'll build that ancient workshop, right? Looks like an amazing place to work out of, with maybe one or two modern amenities built in 😉
over? LOL........
It would make it easier to think of the challenges of ancient antiquity while working in an “ancient” workshop
Covid....over? Oh my sweet summer child, I have some bad news for you.
You might be better off ducking back into your own workshop and making a video of your own mate
Crossover with Primitive Technology? kzhead.info/tools/AL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA.html
Chris, totally unrelated (sorry). My brass scriber is my favorite tool. It was one of my first lathe projects years ago and to this day make me happy when I use it! Thank!!
So pleased to hear that mate :)
He, is, back! As if he was never gone! Love it!! Thanks for coming back! We all missed you!!
This is an absolutely legendary video series, thank you
This Antikythera Mechanism has fascinated me since the day I first found out about it, I'm glad your still working on it and showing us all these cool techniques.
1901... ah yes, I remember it like it was yesterday.
That was the longest wait ever....! So glad to see you back!
You are a singularly wonderful light in an otherwise terrible past two years
With all our modern technology and precision around us, its easy to overlook how far simple hand tools and some ingenuity can take us. This series is really eyeopening in that regard. Experimental archeology at is finest!
Chris, this made my day. Thanks! Hey, I was recently reading a quote from Dr. Adam Wojcik whose a co-authors of the recent Nature article "A Model of the Cosmos in the ancient Greek Antikythera Mechanism." He was saying that one of the current challenges is to "prove its feasibility by making it with ancient techniques"... Looks like you're well on the way to proof that point for him! Good on ya!
Oh how I have longed for this time to come again!
I just wanted you to know that the timing of this video is perfect. My father in law just passed away and we used to watch your channel together. This is what I needed. Thank you sir.
It's fun watching these as a manufacturing student and seeing how much some of our processes have progressed, and how little other have changed.
Here I was thinking at the beginning of the video that Chris would add some parts to the build that looked rough and hand made. But of course they end up looking absolutely flawless and matches perfectly.
Holly shit God bless this day. Best day of many many months!! ♥️
G'day Chris here. Its time again!
The King has returned! And he brought a historical conjecture! I’m so happy!
I had forgotten the warm and fuzzy feeling of excitement I get starting to watch your videos. Thank you!
The stars and moons have finally realigned again ✨
Gosh if only there was some kind of device that could tell us when that will happen again
Huzzah! Another video! It is a glorious day!
Oh how I've missed these videos. What a great look into the past! Thank you for yet another wonderful video.
I've never felt so transported to another time period before, your work makes history come to life. Identifying the sound, the views, the people, even the *smell* of the work environment was wonderful, thank you
Glad you're healthy and back.
This video was greatly anticipated. Being a scientist, I love the approach that you are taking in your methodical and well reasoned reenactment of the construction of the Antikythera mechanism, and showing how, with a bare minimum of tools, but the power of the human mind, a complex device could be constructed, over a millennium before our Western centric thinking suggests would be possible. I was thinking about this the other day when I was attempting to change a lock at home and the diameter of old bore in the door was a centimeter smaller than the bevel of the new lock. I looked around and the only tools I had that I could use to remove that amount of wood and increase the bore on hand was a chisel and a hammer. So I ended up turning a 4cm circle into a (rough) 5cm square. The lock seated properly and it was good enough for the use case. I made me think that I had just used tools that our ancestors from thousands of years ago who had to work wood used to make what they needed to make. Thank you for your great videos and if you happen to come across This Old Tony in your travels, tell him we miss him too.
I have missed these longer format videos so so much, as well as your patience and precision in your craft. I'm currently in the Melbourne lockdown, and this video has just made it worth while 😊. Much love, respect and stay safe
Where patience, intelligence, and true craftmenship can lead to…….. Thnx Chris!
I have never clicked on a video so fast! 11 seconds! Your videos are amazing and I love how this is informing real academic research!
I'm so glad it's finally back
This was fantastic and extremely informative. Id love a similarly in-depth video on how ancient workers could have prepared stock precisely. I feel like the large flat plates present a huge technical challenge, but also becoming easy to take for granted once a manufacturing technique is established.
This right here. Throughout all these videos, this is an aspect that has yet to be addressed. It may be something that is not worth going into- maybe slaves just hammered stock “flat enough” and the master craftsman just knew which parts of the piece of plate to use for a given part, in much the same way a good cabinet maker knows which piece of a board to use. All of the roughness of hand-wrought stock would be worked away in the finishing/polishing process anyway. Never mind, that’s the answer.
I can't tell you how happy I am to have you back doing longer segments and back to building this amazing tool. Of all of the youtube builder I watch you are my favorite. looking forward to more.
*THE RETURN OF THE KING*
I’ve been having the worst day, but seeing a new video has totally upped my mood! Thanks Chris 🥰
Same here!
@@sketchstuffs was literally soooo excited when I saw the notification 🤩🤩🤩
"... As I move forward with the rest of the build." Music to my ears. Welcome back.
Bloody hell, I’d forgotten how much I enjoy just listening to THAT voice… and then there’s the content 😎
Yay! It's great seeing you back!
lol I love how there's absolutely no mention about the time gap, just straight into it!
I’ll see you in 2022 for the next vid
"Gday Chris here" is the best thing I've heard in months
The king returns! So good to see you again, and a pleasure to see not only your work on the machine, but perhaps even more, your interesting insights into the workshop of the past! We love you and hope you're well and look forward to your next installment of the series.
So glad to have you back Chris. Looking forward to the continuation of this project.
I almost cried when i heard that magical, voice. Its been TOO long since ive had my therapeutic g'day chris here
this is absolutely fascinating to me, through this kind of recreation we gain so much understanding of not only the sophisticated techniques of the day but also a bit of understanding of the people and world they lived in.
I swear to god you have me to thank for these videos. The last 2 have been released later the same day I searched KZhead to see if any new ones had been released.
Going on seven years and it's still such a gift when a new video is shared. 🙂👍🤝
Always so grateful to see another new Clickspring video! The work you put in is always so absolutely immense, you're an inspiration to so many.
Finally! The best channel on KZhead has returned to glory! Good to see you Chris!
I love these videos, can't wait for the next one!
When the world needed him most, he returned.
So happy to see ya back!!
I was wandering in the hot desert, dying of thirst, and finally a glass of cool, clear water! Thanks!
I feel resurrected already. Man, I am beyond inspired by these videos! I love the comps. You really are a top jeweler.
#QOTD is that blip sound from Riven or Mist?
Good to hear your voice again Chris, looking forward to the rest of the build 🛠👍🏻💚
Great video as always! I loved your clock series (it's still something I put on when I want something relaxing to watch, must have seen it a couple dozen times by now) but this series is so much cooler because of your exploration of the ancient metal working techniques and insights into the craftsmen of the time.
Your conclusion really sums up why this is such a satisfying project to witness. The forming and cutting of these parts required the same level of quality and precision then as it does now. The connection of science and craft between millennia is a delight to witness.
This level of sophistication and filming skill is amazing to watch. The subject matter is made that much more interesting by the level of filming and craftsmanship. Thanks!
Yes.. Welcome my friend 🤩
Chris, a word on abrasive stones. I've found that one of the most important aspects of using abrasive stones is learning how to properly dress and shape the stones into the required shape and flatness.
So many superlatives... just wow! Love this channel and this series. Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
This somehow makes me emotional seeing things come together.
Glad to see another upload Chris! Always look forward to these 😄
Simply amazing clean work and thank you for the speculative lesson on the workshop side of the making.
I can't see why 113 people would dislike this... I can't even imagine how much work and research that goes into all of Clicksprings videos. Thanks you for sharing this wonderful journey with all of us! The crazy part it that he does it for free and people press dislike? I really hope they meant press Like but missclicked or something...
New Video? Well, looks like it's time to go back and rewatch all of your videos once again Chris. Can't wait to become unwholesomely interested in clock mechanics once again.
This was out of the blue for me! Like all your other videos it was a great treat I just love to indulge in. Mixing it with speculative history just puts it over the top for me!
Gorgeous work. I love the insight into the conditions of the shop/courtyard. I can't help imagining the owner hiring a young lutist to strum quiet melodies while the workshop clanked away. No shop is complete without its radio!
I love the way you transport us into the past with this series.
So glad to see one of my favorite craftsman return, I had wondered what happened to the Antikythera project. Seeing you techniques and primitive tool making is fascinating. So much eye candy and awe.
I'm shocked at how well the pumice-charged soaked leather works as an abrasive paper! Glad to have you back for these full videos; I'm very excited to learn all these tidbits of useful and interesting information (to go along with the history and your soothing presentation, of course!)
Such a pleasure to watch your work.
"Finishing it all to a required standard" Holy fuck dude! :) Beautiful work as always!
I think this is the most anticipated and appreciated channel on the whole of KZhead. Almost 170.000 views in 3 days and basically 0 downvotes is amazing
Next up on Clickspring : Ancient Optometrist makes glasses for craftsman to see the tiny details on workpiece, using only wood and some gravel
From what I know of Chris, he would see that as a challenge and defeat it while making an episode about it.
Optometry archeology. I'm in!
HES BACK!!!! Glad to see you again Chris!
When the world needed him the most, he returned
I’ve never had a stranger greeting me make me feel as complete as you. Welcome back! I’m excited to see this project through