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Imagine a situation in war where you are told "We need to lose!". It makes perfect Wgaming sense.
@chuck6458 Жыл бұрын
Only War Gaming would come up with something that stupid and say everything is ok.
@KOS762 Жыл бұрын
It is called spoiling attacks, setting up purposefully weak defences, or fielding less to draw, and keeping forces of the enemy away from the main force and push, by drawing them in having them set up then either attacking them from the flank or even completely somewhere else. It actually happens more often than you would think. Losing a battle doesn't mean you lose the war. Its strategy, especially when there is a numerical or mechanical advantage to the enemy.
@chris.moonmantis945911 ай бұрын
@@chris.moonmantis9459 I see what you are saying, just does not really feel the same as deploying perfectly good tanks only to be blown up and several body bags to fill. Really the only way to win a war is to not fight in the first place.
@chuck645811 ай бұрын
Just an idea but maybe ...Winning would have put them into triples. They didn't have enough to fill 3 teams and couldn't afford the tech?
@OldFartGaming2023 Жыл бұрын
been there, done that
@rudesandelius7343 Жыл бұрын
Yes its possible, but also some lose to lower there ELO. If your ELO is high you enemys are also High. Is your ELO lower, your enemys are lower. You could explay this so, driving on Tier IV with a 14 Perk Crew and purple equipment and gold consumebles against real beginners in random matches where the MM dont care about your skill and all this stuff. In CW the MM care about skill this only is named ELO, this is to match teams with nearly same skill against and not _bot_ against pro´s. And so some _pro´s_ lose to lower the ELO and the MM will send them against _bots_ after this. Easy manipulating/cheat. * bot stay in my commentary for very low skilled players in compare to the pro´s.
@Observerl11 ай бұрын
@@Observerl This is wrong. They are battling on the campaign map, you can tell because of the players names with the giant green arrow. They are using special campaign equipment. They are trying to avoid a technical loss. What you're saying isn't even close to what's happening in the video.
@mattdundas259811 ай бұрын
@@mattdundas2598 you are correct sir. Clans drop ELO prior to CW.
@Goosedoublelime11 ай бұрын
It is clear to me that the K-A-P clan team is a team of gentlemen that value sportsmanship and valour. I think they've said something like "Sir, it would be a most shameful victory if we tower over these brave 10 fighters" and the commander said "You are right, it would be a total lack of sportsmanship and fair play. The only honorable thing to do is to give up"
@TandemSix Жыл бұрын
Or maybe it's some overengineered Japanese samurai doctrine which says that if you encounter a weaker enemy that shows enough bravery and honor, you have to kneel before them and let them behead you because they've effectively put you to shame and you've lost your face.
@davidzarecky4078 Жыл бұрын
@@davidzarecky4078 or this, but I doubt that K-A-P clan is a samurai clan
@TandemSix Жыл бұрын
Where’s Yuri when you need him ?
@kylemaki6510 Жыл бұрын
It's likely that if they won, they would have had 2 or 3 matches scheduled at the same time and didn't have enough players to field them. This is a common occurrence in clan wars.
@Willster419 Жыл бұрын
True.
@MrVlax22 Жыл бұрын
This is the correct answer. I've experienced it myself several times. I remember we had a game that we needed to lose, but we wanted some fame points, so we loaded in with deathstars and FVs, and we were actually winning somehow, so we all had to stop shooting at one point to give up the game.
@mattdundas2598 Жыл бұрын
Oh then the game is stupid and war gaming are stupid... still good that someone knows about these things to explain to us. Thanks.
@AlexJacksonSmith Жыл бұрын
So Clan Wars is set up so that only the big clans can progress!? That has to be the dumbest clan battle setup ever! What is the point of competing at all? Maybe I am just not understanding, cause my idea of any clan war mode, in any game, is to win all battles. I think WG has to change how clan wars is organised, and kick out any clan that doesn’t play to win. Just seems really dumb to me.
@wolverine343534 Жыл бұрын
@@wolverine343534 not exactly, because each player earns individual points. The idea is to not fight on so many fronts as you have players to fight. But sometimes you win on every front and have more games than you have active players, and you do not want to take a technical loss, so you have to play with the idea of losing quickly. It's hedging your bets, because you need to fight on as many fronts as you can to maximize your chance at gaining points and land, but sometimes because of time, you need to drop a battle here and there, it's better than no showing and getting a technical loss. A clan of 15 players can earn the reward tanks if they play and win.
@mattdundas2598 Жыл бұрын
When Convoy came out, McD’s had a tray insert with CB radio explanations. Sure wish I kept mine. Great 70s movie.
@natick4 Жыл бұрын
That's Mad. Thanks Claus
@jamessadler5073 Жыл бұрын
Its about fame points and continuations. If you cannot load a team with 12 players, you are hit with a technical loss. Your clan then loses fame points and could be hit with a penalties. To avoid have too many matches scheduled that a clan cannot support, they will throw a match to avoid having a continuation match scheduled at the same time as a previously scheduled match. Clans that can field more than one team don't have this problem, but some clans can't support two teams. It's part of the WOT system for clan wars; you are penalized if you have a shorthanded clan.
@chrissummers2689 Жыл бұрын
Yup, that's the deal. They throw the game so that they were not double booked in the next round. Happened to me a few times last clan war.
@thecellulontriptometer4166 Жыл бұрын
And a draw, wich also counts as aloss for both teams is actually worse then a loss
@schwebor11 ай бұрын
and killing all but 2 means they get the kills to keep their bonds and materials for the battle. Need at least 5 kills to get those materials. More important in Tank CW then Gold season...
@chris.moonmantis945911 ай бұрын
This is the reason. We have to do it sometimes. It's just the way WG has it set up.
@stylerod11 ай бұрын
Like watching a great movie that just fizzles out at end, what an anti climatic way to win.
@otakarkuby3926 Жыл бұрын
My clan does this when we "have to lose" - we get our 5 kills and then stop because no need or no benefit to win the battle. Happens pretty often.
@KevinDedi Жыл бұрын
😂 lol claus... i sent you a better example once. A beattle where my clan needed a loss, and the enemy aswell... after winning the rush they just left the battle. In my maus i pushed an 277 into my own cap and gifted them a victory ❤
@schwebor Жыл бұрын
now that is funny
@stojanmilosevic7777 Жыл бұрын
@stojanmilosevic7777 they didnt think so.. we did 😀
@schwebor Жыл бұрын
omg how is that fun apart from being very funny
@OriginalYonta11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@rickbaker802111 ай бұрын
Yeah, I heard this happens often. I saw a replay once, where both teams tried to loose on himmelsdorf. It was really fun to watch. They all went for the hill, tracking and blocking the enemy team, trying to throw themselves off the cliff.
@chogan1317 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see that, it should be hilarious
@sneakyfildy Жыл бұрын
@@sneakyfildy it was, but i deleted it because it was an old minecraft version. somewhat regretting it now tbh. :-D
@chogan1317 Жыл бұрын
erm old wot version. no idea why i wrote minecraft. :-D
@chogan1317 Жыл бұрын
Claus counted 10 friendly tanks a number of times. He’s excellent at mathematics but not so great at counting!😅
@666Wizardsleeve Жыл бұрын
My suspicion…… they fought to a certain point to earn materials, scrap etc. But they either want to tank their ELO with a loss. Or they cannot afford to win as they wont have enough players for the next round and dont want to take a TECH for not fielding a team for one or more battles.
@KingRat71 Жыл бұрын
In clam wars, stuff like this is common. Clans will play the 'meta' game (wheel and deal with one another) and decide what parts of the map will go to whom. Sometimes this means that you need to lose some battles. Which at times, confuses a clan to no end when this happens as they aren't in on the deals being made. It's been like this since the beginning. Nothing strange here. The 'meta game' is part of clan wars.
@Theorica Жыл бұрын
The enemy team might have had another battle and would have had a double battle, and if they don't field a team, they get a penalty. That penalty is to lose a ticket for a drop. In other words, They start off with 4 places on the global map they can try to win. If the tech a battle, which is why they would throw a game, they would lose a drop, putting them to only 3 per day, and it takes 7 days to recover. So to lose 1 battle to save the penalty, would allow them to drop 5 extra times per week, making a total of 20 drops, or "battles". With the penalty it would only be 15, for the week. 3 penalties and you don't get to play clan wars for a week.
@KOS762 Жыл бұрын
"SOMETIMES pub games are shit shows...?"
@kevinmcdonald6446 Жыл бұрын
? sometimes pup games are shit shows REALLY sometimes air is what we breath !
@jgold2813 Жыл бұрын
its common thing in clan wars cos if they won the battle next they will have 2 battles at the same time... one to play but for not showing on the other one the clan get penalty so they just lost and end the possability for having 2 battles at the same time... ( if the map has water they just go and drown them self but here no wather :) )
@Denja187 Жыл бұрын
I have played alot of Clan Wars and it is mostly scammed and planned by the big clans. I was in the old event where the M60 was the prize and every match we did was preplanned, the event winners were planned ahead of time. All the big clans knew who would win each stage of the event.
@belronq Жыл бұрын
there has been games when both team all bring light tanks and jump off cliffs. if you could be short handed in the next battles it is better to lose and not for fit
@jefflantz2569 Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of secondary strategies going on in Global Battles. You can screw over another clan by losing to them. These guys got as much damage as they could and as many kills as they could before falling back. You need those things for fame points and materials. Just delaying the outcome can cause the other team to miss a battle and take a penalty. I prefer playing the battles straight up. But I know of many clans that are looking to screw-over other teams any chance they get.
@skh515 Жыл бұрын
to true man, I was part of a smaller clan one team but we always fought it out and never threw a match
@xxx_madman_xxx5868 Жыл бұрын
More often it's because, if you win, you will have a simultaneous battles scheduled. If you can't field two teams at the same time then taking a technical defeat is worse for your points then losing a game on purpose.
@stylerod11 ай бұрын
They had another battle and they didn't want to take a ban not showing at the battle. And Claus they are 12 not 10. The minimum number pf participants in a clan war batlle is 12.
@fankybollox404 Жыл бұрын
12 vs 15 not 15 vs 10 and the clan with 15 tanks had to go play next battle but not have the players to fight two battles same time after this one. so they loose on purpuse and they don't get a penalty for not showing in the battle after this one. Happens when you win to much.
@henkgeenreetaan1374 Жыл бұрын
If they are a high ranked clan they are trying to lower their rank to prep for next cw season so they can seal club at beginning of the next season. MM will give them easier matches. Or they had another more important match to get to and not enough players. They stacked tanks to hopefully reduce damage other team would get.
@scottsluggosrule4670 Жыл бұрын
No Claus this could be a game that has aresdy been pre planned, I did a lot of clan wars and deals where always made between clans. They defending team has to turn up or automataclly lose the land, so in some games teams will go in cause damage so it does not show to wargaming but not kill all the of the tanks and let the timer go down or just move and not defend or cover. This is what this game looks like they could have easy killed them all but the move away. its easy mid game to work out how many tanks the other team has on small maps. so this is not a real battle
@Scarletsb0y Жыл бұрын
Mama just called them for the "soupe" !!!
@elgringodecuba Жыл бұрын
The next tank-owning clan event is coming and everyone wants to spoil their battle status in order to beat smaller clans at the beginning.
@xvszoboszlai11 ай бұрын
What?
@violetstetpedder-482411 ай бұрын
They have another battle after..
@mmanisse Жыл бұрын
That was so weird...😮
@mathieulapointe1207 Жыл бұрын
CW McCall... "Convoy"
@johnathansaegal3156 Жыл бұрын
They had another clan war that their commander called more important to fight so they left that battle
@kiff4free55411 ай бұрын
Nice
@Willster419 Жыл бұрын
Happens all the time.
@gregh8720 Жыл бұрын
If its for clan wars with reward tanks, you need 5 kills to get your points. Looks like they had another battle and didn't want a second or third battle at that time frame. They drove back to base so their enemy couldn't push their tanks on cap. It happens. Its clan wars .
@Pens_-ji1sl Жыл бұрын
they are either trying to avoid being double or triple-booked if they win this battle and if they don't have enough players to fill those teams they will have a penalty, or they are trying to drop their ELO since this is gold clan wars and they want to be able to fight the weaker teams and get more points in the next CW season, they need to make it look though as if they are not throwing the game since that will get them banned
@MrIslamYoussef11 ай бұрын
If they wanted to lose they could've just stayed where they were, in the brawl, and just rise their pp up like a surrender. That's not what happened.
@alex.mielus Жыл бұрын
In fact even if the channel is like a box of chocolates... you damn well know what you gonna get: FUCKING CHOCOLATE! ;)
@sefribu4159 Жыл бұрын
More clan wars videos please.
@victorduffy4459 Жыл бұрын
12. There were 12 players v 15. Not 10. I love Claus's mathetizing!
@92Koondog92 Жыл бұрын
Yeah,the bear minimum is 11
@sorinancuta3934 Жыл бұрын
At the end of CWs season some big clans (and many others) uses to lose games to get down the ELO, this way they will face easier first matches at next CW campaing. This is a real issue Claus. I guess the only one way to avoid this is to reset ELO rating at the beginning of every CW and to increase winning / losing points on wins and loses. Believe me, this is a real problem in CWs.
@David-pn5nj Жыл бұрын
? sometimes pup games are shit shows REALLY sometimes air is what we breath !
@jgold2813 Жыл бұрын
Are the two clans involved in an alliance and are strategically reshaping their borders by trading map positions on the world map? For the players who have never played in clan wars, think of it as late game Civilization VI with tanks only. Having alliances and making pacts with allied clans describing how to attack the map and how to surround and isolate enemy clans is the fun part of being a clan commander or combat officer - getting together outside the actual game and planning a war campaign so the alliance can control as large an area as possible of the world map. Your clan earns gold every day that it controls a map area. Maps area in the interior, which are hard to reach let alone win, give the highest daily gold rewards. Gold farming is the name of the game. Reshaping the alliance map and positioning against specific enemy clans could be the strategy here. However, if that is the case is was very costly. In clan wars when you lose a tank during battle it will be unavailable for a number of real world hours, up to a week, before it is unlocked again for clan wars. Or, maybe the allied clan threw the match because GIMPS had a simultaneous battle scheduled, didn't have at least 24 players and threw a full team into the other match. If the won both the schedule would likely firm up so they could put a full team out for the other two battles that night.
@darby5987 Жыл бұрын
I shall explain this. It is called a 'Russian Win'. Where you stop playing and lose to get the win. Like that Russian Math. Cluas re-title this Russian Win
@riff2072 Жыл бұрын
Lol Klaus, can't even count to 12? :D I love your videos but here I had a good laugh, thx! :D
@markelathotee11 ай бұрын
@davemc8289 Жыл бұрын
Wow... I thought I could say, "I've seen it all now", but the more you reveal, the more I wonder how intense collusion is in this game.
@johnathansaegal3156 Жыл бұрын
You're dumb. They're trying to avoid a technical defeat. This is how WG designed CW to function. The enemy team in this case wouldn't participate in the battle if they didn't have to, but WG won't let you cancel attacks on provinces.
@denniskarlsson712111 ай бұрын
I keep getting screen not hit.😢 what's that mean 🤔 with my grill 15
@oroville12345 Жыл бұрын
You haven't interrupted the football match on the flat screen TV.
@harbringerf9416 Жыл бұрын
@@harbringerf9416 I don't watch TV
@oroville12345 Жыл бұрын
@@oroville12345 But apparently your Grille 15 crew do :)
@harbringerf9416 Жыл бұрын
@@harbringerf9416 hahaha 😆 😂
@oroville12345 Жыл бұрын
Don't want a red card
@kevinhanssen1592 Жыл бұрын
If they have an already scheduled battle will risq a penalty
@superdrinkerb6432 Жыл бұрын
Clans do this all the time they intentionally lose for reasons
@ammarfv6366 Жыл бұрын
Happy algorithm comment
@stephenbennett9427 Жыл бұрын
GRC infects clanwars?
@treadheadpete4770 Жыл бұрын
Standard equipment, standard shells, these kind of tanks? What kind of clan wars is that? Do they not know that you have to only feature Chiefs and 279e firing only gold?
@l.marleen98711 ай бұрын
Looks like a fill-up team.
@violetstetpedder-482411 ай бұрын
This was an example of: "We need to lose this game, but make sure to kill 6 of them"
@rinkashi101 Жыл бұрын
Because u need to have at least 5kills;)that.s why there r agreement between clans of 5 kills;)
@sorinancuta3934 Жыл бұрын
I think the team who was in low count buy a territory))) for real transfer I heard about that kind of deals!!!
@CrOOpSS11 ай бұрын
Looks like malfunctioning bots...
@divisiona3974 Жыл бұрын
Man I was so proud because I thought they did a Zhang Liang on the enemy. Only to be disappointed since the enemies are just being weird
@jollybee5220 Жыл бұрын
they want to loose cause they don't want to have more lines up cause they don't have enough players and they don't want to get a penalty
@torkalpha3312 Жыл бұрын
Option 3: Gaym was agreed/rigged!!!
@RafterMan2086 Жыл бұрын
"unkilled"....LOL
@ronporter610 Жыл бұрын
Clan war chipping works as intended with clans purposely losing several games per night
@Howto-sb7sx Жыл бұрын
Boosters?
@kevynbrownell719 Жыл бұрын
They can't win without taking a penalty because they can't field enough teams
@peytonhenny4814 Жыл бұрын
There is pay to win now it's pay to lose yay😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@christopherholladay918 Жыл бұрын
How weird, but not unusual of Claus's channel.....
@Trillock-hy1cf Жыл бұрын
maybe ran out of ammo
@mikeglenn2490 Жыл бұрын
There is a very well known NA clan that is right now purposefully losing clan battles to lower their ELO from 1200 to around 800. Doing that means they can absolutely stomp on lower elo clans next CW's season. Really disgusting but WG don't care.
@davidbialik187811 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it just be easier to create a new clan?
@violetstetpedder-482411 ай бұрын
Must be an old game as in clan wars now you cannot enter battle with less than 12 tanks. Also if you schedule to many battles and a new one is about to pop you need to lose the current battle or take a penalty if you do not have enough people to fill two battles. These guys left the battle to go to another and not take a penalty.
@kurtthompson5517 Жыл бұрын
🙃
@sayerrobin Жыл бұрын
You're showing you age Claus. The intro was Convoy by CW Mcall from 1976.😊
@richardtrude7562 Жыл бұрын
Strategic losing, I understand why but still…
@stephendverner Жыл бұрын
... A very short conversation with BingChat coulda saved Claus from this humiliating embarrassment. Instead, his Confirmation Bias is again on full display, AND he has AGAIN wrongly accused innocent parties of cheating. STOP IT, @Claus!!!
@dimwit747411 ай бұрын
LMAO
@1989Falkor Жыл бұрын
May be they did not have any ammo left!!
@CozyButtONАй бұрын
LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER FIXED GAME - IT WAS GOOD GOING AT THE START KLAUS WHAT A CRAP ENDING
@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of Жыл бұрын
option 3 ... rigged
@Inos74 Жыл бұрын
They are throwing the match to lower their clans ELO for the next clan wars for a tank.
@MADMAXMALONE1 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was a team of Jehovah Witnesses. They found out that they were sinning.
@clintonturner5545 Жыл бұрын
They had to lose the game, I ve seen a lot of this shit. They only left 2 tanks alive so that they can kill them, easy as that.
@Azmodan3000 Жыл бұрын
Awrite Claus!
@AzulinhoAzulinho Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you gotta throw a game to avoid getting a technical penalty during clan wars. Too many techs and you lose the chance to play battles, so you lose on purpose.
@tomklein505 Жыл бұрын
AY UP CLAUS
@2tone209 Жыл бұрын
Klaus, You have no idea how CW works do you? They are intentionally throwing because they don't actually want to win the battle. It's because of how WG designed the system, if they don't attend the battle the whole clan gets penalised.
@denniskarlsson712111 ай бұрын
I gotta say, Claus, you don't look old enough to be making the cultural and artistic historical references that you do from time to time! Rubber Duck?? My Dad was a radio engineer so we had a CB even before the song and movie came out. I'm sure most people today have no clue what you were doing when you "air-mic'd". LOL!
@trfatman Жыл бұрын
10-4!
@lonzodaman Жыл бұрын
... I've said it many times ... "Klans iz gonna Klan"
@dimwit7474 Жыл бұрын
... ... the PROBLEM with "Klanz Klannin'" is that they don't Klan ONLY in KlanWarz, they Klan in Random Battles. Hey ... day jus' "Klawnin' around".
@dimwit7474 Жыл бұрын
Another rigged game is clear... In essence, moral and definitive conclusion in 5 points: 1) The WG decides how the players they choose should behave 2) The WG decides who should be the winning Clans 3) The WG creates Clan with the best players chosen 4) The WG consequently condemns the other Clans to lose 5) The WC... 5 bis) The WG decides everything 5 Ter) The WG is the WG and I am not a dick!
@Ivanostefanelli.11 ай бұрын
What's rigged about this?
@violetstetpedder-482411 ай бұрын
When i was playing this useless manipulated game i was part of a clan and did clan wars. Many times the order was to throw the game away to get players into the next one.
@santr81 Жыл бұрын
count 3 times ten instead of twelf ? c mon
@crusoone3305 Жыл бұрын
12
@ngrey509211 ай бұрын
This video shows that Claus can't count.
@jamesdavies630 Жыл бұрын
WHAT IS THIS??? REALLY? RIGGED BATTLES IN CLAN WARS? OMG!
@michailleventopoulos2583 Жыл бұрын
No the reasons are listed above in comments its a strategy to throw because of how clan battles work
@dogf1ghter Жыл бұрын
12 FFS, counts obvious full 15 member team, but dont otherone and even people in coments says 10 WOW :D
@MrLolis1337 Жыл бұрын
can you do a raffle
@leopard2A8 Жыл бұрын
WEhatever.....anyway a cheat--show---.....
@vanvan-oc4nj Жыл бұрын
possibly trolling or a friend clan doing a little goof?
@LowryYT Жыл бұрын
No. The possible reasons are listed above.
@captain_context9991 Жыл бұрын
is it me or was this loades of bad choices for "pros" apart from extra game functions.
@OriginalYonta11 ай бұрын
They had to lose, this is typical CW strategy planning. You don't want to win all your battles... Nothing fishy here
@rabioso000111 ай бұрын
Interesting but also a small detail into this, they retreat with 2 tanks left on the enemy side, which means mostly likely KAP clan would already know they GMPS clan is down to -5 tanks, so If you do the math correctly, if GMPS would had all 15 tanks, the overall counting at the moment of retreat would be on GMPS advantage, so KAP clan admit the defeat in a very unusual way. Or, we will never know the reason. Just my two cents on it.
@harrystroe8400 Жыл бұрын
Its amusing to watch someone who has no idea about clan wars or clan war mechanics and dude makes a whole youtube video to create drama. Alone from that one round there are two possible, reasonable, and legal reasons(YES its amazing you can us all of those 3 adjectives isnt it?) why a clan was purposely loosing a matchup. I wont explain any of the reasons because Claus most probably knows exactly why clans are doing it (If not may god have mercy on his viewers). And if he doesnt know he could easily ask. Its not uncommon and there more than one legit reasons. And DUDE is it ridiculous him making connections to the 11k banned accounts that were using illegal software. What a trash entertainment.
@krystianstarzykks Жыл бұрын
Yep, happens all the time. It’s a map where you can’t kill yourself in a lake or something so you have to wait to be killed to make it to the next battle on time.
Imagine a situation in war where you are told "We need to lose!". It makes perfect Wgaming sense.
Only War Gaming would come up with something that stupid and say everything is ok.
It is called spoiling attacks, setting up purposefully weak defences, or fielding less to draw, and keeping forces of the enemy away from the main force and push, by drawing them in having them set up then either attacking them from the flank or even completely somewhere else. It actually happens more often than you would think. Losing a battle doesn't mean you lose the war. Its strategy, especially when there is a numerical or mechanical advantage to the enemy.
@@chris.moonmantis9459 I see what you are saying, just does not really feel the same as deploying perfectly good tanks only to be blown up and several body bags to fill. Really the only way to win a war is to not fight in the first place.
Just an idea but maybe ...Winning would have put them into triples. They didn't have enough to fill 3 teams and couldn't afford the tech?
been there, done that
Yes its possible, but also some lose to lower there ELO. If your ELO is high you enemys are also High. Is your ELO lower, your enemys are lower. You could explay this so, driving on Tier IV with a 14 Perk Crew and purple equipment and gold consumebles against real beginners in random matches where the MM dont care about your skill and all this stuff. In CW the MM care about skill this only is named ELO, this is to match teams with nearly same skill against and not _bot_ against pro´s. And so some _pro´s_ lose to lower the ELO and the MM will send them against _bots_ after this. Easy manipulating/cheat. * bot stay in my commentary for very low skilled players in compare to the pro´s.
@@Observerl This is wrong. They are battling on the campaign map, you can tell because of the players names with the giant green arrow. They are using special campaign equipment. They are trying to avoid a technical loss. What you're saying isn't even close to what's happening in the video.
@@mattdundas2598 you are correct sir. Clans drop ELO prior to CW.
It is clear to me that the K-A-P clan team is a team of gentlemen that value sportsmanship and valour. I think they've said something like "Sir, it would be a most shameful victory if we tower over these brave 10 fighters" and the commander said "You are right, it would be a total lack of sportsmanship and fair play. The only honorable thing to do is to give up"
Or maybe it's some overengineered Japanese samurai doctrine which says that if you encounter a weaker enemy that shows enough bravery and honor, you have to kneel before them and let them behead you because they've effectively put you to shame and you've lost your face.
@@davidzarecky4078 or this, but I doubt that K-A-P clan is a samurai clan
Where’s Yuri when you need him ?
It's likely that if they won, they would have had 2 or 3 matches scheduled at the same time and didn't have enough players to field them. This is a common occurrence in clan wars.
True.
This is the correct answer. I've experienced it myself several times. I remember we had a game that we needed to lose, but we wanted some fame points, so we loaded in with deathstars and FVs, and we were actually winning somehow, so we all had to stop shooting at one point to give up the game.
Oh then the game is stupid and war gaming are stupid... still good that someone knows about these things to explain to us. Thanks.
So Clan Wars is set up so that only the big clans can progress!? That has to be the dumbest clan battle setup ever! What is the point of competing at all? Maybe I am just not understanding, cause my idea of any clan war mode, in any game, is to win all battles. I think WG has to change how clan wars is organised, and kick out any clan that doesn’t play to win. Just seems really dumb to me.
@@wolverine343534 not exactly, because each player earns individual points. The idea is to not fight on so many fronts as you have players to fight. But sometimes you win on every front and have more games than you have active players, and you do not want to take a technical loss, so you have to play with the idea of losing quickly. It's hedging your bets, because you need to fight on as many fronts as you can to maximize your chance at gaining points and land, but sometimes because of time, you need to drop a battle here and there, it's better than no showing and getting a technical loss. A clan of 15 players can earn the reward tanks if they play and win.
When Convoy came out, McD’s had a tray insert with CB radio explanations. Sure wish I kept mine. Great 70s movie.
That's Mad. Thanks Claus
Its about fame points and continuations. If you cannot load a team with 12 players, you are hit with a technical loss. Your clan then loses fame points and could be hit with a penalties. To avoid have too many matches scheduled that a clan cannot support, they will throw a match to avoid having a continuation match scheduled at the same time as a previously scheduled match. Clans that can field more than one team don't have this problem, but some clans can't support two teams. It's part of the WOT system for clan wars; you are penalized if you have a shorthanded clan.
Yup, that's the deal. They throw the game so that they were not double booked in the next round. Happened to me a few times last clan war.
And a draw, wich also counts as aloss for both teams is actually worse then a loss
and killing all but 2 means they get the kills to keep their bonds and materials for the battle. Need at least 5 kills to get those materials. More important in Tank CW then Gold season...
This is the reason. We have to do it sometimes. It's just the way WG has it set up.
Like watching a great movie that just fizzles out at end, what an anti climatic way to win.
My clan does this when we "have to lose" - we get our 5 kills and then stop because no need or no benefit to win the battle. Happens pretty often.
😂 lol claus... i sent you a better example once. A beattle where my clan needed a loss, and the enemy aswell... after winning the rush they just left the battle. In my maus i pushed an 277 into my own cap and gifted them a victory ❤
now that is funny
@stojanmilosevic7777 they didnt think so.. we did 😀
omg how is that fun apart from being very funny
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, I heard this happens often. I saw a replay once, where both teams tried to loose on himmelsdorf. It was really fun to watch. They all went for the hill, tracking and blocking the enemy team, trying to throw themselves off the cliff.
I'd like to see that, it should be hilarious
@@sneakyfildy it was, but i deleted it because it was an old minecraft version. somewhat regretting it now tbh. :-D
erm old wot version. no idea why i wrote minecraft. :-D
Claus counted 10 friendly tanks a number of times. He’s excellent at mathematics but not so great at counting!😅
My suspicion…… they fought to a certain point to earn materials, scrap etc. But they either want to tank their ELO with a loss. Or they cannot afford to win as they wont have enough players for the next round and dont want to take a TECH for not fielding a team for one or more battles.
In clam wars, stuff like this is common. Clans will play the 'meta' game (wheel and deal with one another) and decide what parts of the map will go to whom. Sometimes this means that you need to lose some battles. Which at times, confuses a clan to no end when this happens as they aren't in on the deals being made. It's been like this since the beginning. Nothing strange here. The 'meta game' is part of clan wars.
The enemy team might have had another battle and would have had a double battle, and if they don't field a team, they get a penalty. That penalty is to lose a ticket for a drop. In other words, They start off with 4 places on the global map they can try to win. If the tech a battle, which is why they would throw a game, they would lose a drop, putting them to only 3 per day, and it takes 7 days to recover. So to lose 1 battle to save the penalty, would allow them to drop 5 extra times per week, making a total of 20 drops, or "battles". With the penalty it would only be 15, for the week. 3 penalties and you don't get to play clan wars for a week.
"SOMETIMES pub games are shit shows...?"
? sometimes pup games are shit shows REALLY sometimes air is what we breath !
its common thing in clan wars cos if they won the battle next they will have 2 battles at the same time... one to play but for not showing on the other one the clan get penalty so they just lost and end the possability for having 2 battles at the same time... ( if the map has water they just go and drown them self but here no wather :) )
I have played alot of Clan Wars and it is mostly scammed and planned by the big clans. I was in the old event where the M60 was the prize and every match we did was preplanned, the event winners were planned ahead of time. All the big clans knew who would win each stage of the event.
there has been games when both team all bring light tanks and jump off cliffs. if you could be short handed in the next battles it is better to lose and not for fit
There are a lot of secondary strategies going on in Global Battles. You can screw over another clan by losing to them. These guys got as much damage as they could and as many kills as they could before falling back. You need those things for fame points and materials. Just delaying the outcome can cause the other team to miss a battle and take a penalty. I prefer playing the battles straight up. But I know of many clans that are looking to screw-over other teams any chance they get.
to true man, I was part of a smaller clan one team but we always fought it out and never threw a match
More often it's because, if you win, you will have a simultaneous battles scheduled. If you can't field two teams at the same time then taking a technical defeat is worse for your points then losing a game on purpose.
They had another battle and they didn't want to take a ban not showing at the battle. And Claus they are 12 not 10. The minimum number pf participants in a clan war batlle is 12.
12 vs 15 not 15 vs 10 and the clan with 15 tanks had to go play next battle but not have the players to fight two battles same time after this one. so they loose on purpuse and they don't get a penalty for not showing in the battle after this one. Happens when you win to much.
If they are a high ranked clan they are trying to lower their rank to prep for next cw season so they can seal club at beginning of the next season. MM will give them easier matches. Or they had another more important match to get to and not enough players. They stacked tanks to hopefully reduce damage other team would get.
No Claus this could be a game that has aresdy been pre planned, I did a lot of clan wars and deals where always made between clans. They defending team has to turn up or automataclly lose the land, so in some games teams will go in cause damage so it does not show to wargaming but not kill all the of the tanks and let the timer go down or just move and not defend or cover. This is what this game looks like they could have easy killed them all but the move away. its easy mid game to work out how many tanks the other team has on small maps. so this is not a real battle
Mama just called them for the "soupe" !!!
The next tank-owning clan event is coming and everyone wants to spoil their battle status in order to beat smaller clans at the beginning.
What?
They have another battle after..
That was so weird...😮
CW McCall... "Convoy"
They had another clan war that their commander called more important to fight so they left that battle
Nice
Happens all the time.
If its for clan wars with reward tanks, you need 5 kills to get your points. Looks like they had another battle and didn't want a second or third battle at that time frame. They drove back to base so their enemy couldn't push their tanks on cap. It happens. Its clan wars .
they are either trying to avoid being double or triple-booked if they win this battle and if they don't have enough players to fill those teams they will have a penalty, or they are trying to drop their ELO since this is gold clan wars and they want to be able to fight the weaker teams and get more points in the next CW season, they need to make it look though as if they are not throwing the game since that will get them banned
If they wanted to lose they could've just stayed where they were, in the brawl, and just rise their pp up like a surrender. That's not what happened.
In fact even if the channel is like a box of chocolates... you damn well know what you gonna get: FUCKING CHOCOLATE! ;)
More clan wars videos please.
12. There were 12 players v 15. Not 10. I love Claus's mathetizing!
Yeah,the bear minimum is 11
At the end of CWs season some big clans (and many others) uses to lose games to get down the ELO, this way they will face easier first matches at next CW campaing. This is a real issue Claus. I guess the only one way to avoid this is to reset ELO rating at the beginning of every CW and to increase winning / losing points on wins and loses. Believe me, this is a real problem in CWs.
? sometimes pup games are shit shows REALLY sometimes air is what we breath !
Are the two clans involved in an alliance and are strategically reshaping their borders by trading map positions on the world map? For the players who have never played in clan wars, think of it as late game Civilization VI with tanks only. Having alliances and making pacts with allied clans describing how to attack the map and how to surround and isolate enemy clans is the fun part of being a clan commander or combat officer - getting together outside the actual game and planning a war campaign so the alliance can control as large an area as possible of the world map. Your clan earns gold every day that it controls a map area. Maps area in the interior, which are hard to reach let alone win, give the highest daily gold rewards. Gold farming is the name of the game. Reshaping the alliance map and positioning against specific enemy clans could be the strategy here. However, if that is the case is was very costly. In clan wars when you lose a tank during battle it will be unavailable for a number of real world hours, up to a week, before it is unlocked again for clan wars. Or, maybe the allied clan threw the match because GIMPS had a simultaneous battle scheduled, didn't have at least 24 players and threw a full team into the other match. If the won both the schedule would likely firm up so they could put a full team out for the other two battles that night.
I shall explain this. It is called a 'Russian Win'. Where you stop playing and lose to get the win. Like that Russian Math. Cluas re-title this Russian Win
Lol Klaus, can't even count to 12? :D I love your videos but here I had a good laugh, thx! :D
Wow... I thought I could say, "I've seen it all now", but the more you reveal, the more I wonder how intense collusion is in this game.
You're dumb. They're trying to avoid a technical defeat. This is how WG designed CW to function. The enemy team in this case wouldn't participate in the battle if they didn't have to, but WG won't let you cancel attacks on provinces.
I keep getting screen not hit.😢 what's that mean 🤔 with my grill 15
You haven't interrupted the football match on the flat screen TV.
@@harbringerf9416 I don't watch TV
@@oroville12345 But apparently your Grille 15 crew do :)
@@harbringerf9416 hahaha 😆 😂
Don't want a red card
If they have an already scheduled battle will risq a penalty
Clans do this all the time they intentionally lose for reasons
Happy algorithm comment
GRC infects clanwars?
Standard equipment, standard shells, these kind of tanks? What kind of clan wars is that? Do they not know that you have to only feature Chiefs and 279e firing only gold?
Looks like a fill-up team.
This was an example of: "We need to lose this game, but make sure to kill 6 of them"
Because u need to have at least 5kills;)that.s why there r agreement between clans of 5 kills;)
I think the team who was in low count buy a territory))) for real transfer I heard about that kind of deals!!!
Looks like malfunctioning bots...
Man I was so proud because I thought they did a Zhang Liang on the enemy. Only to be disappointed since the enemies are just being weird
they want to loose cause they don't want to have more lines up cause they don't have enough players and they don't want to get a penalty
Option 3: Gaym was agreed/rigged!!!
"unkilled"....LOL
Clan war chipping works as intended with clans purposely losing several games per night
Boosters?
They can't win without taking a penalty because they can't field enough teams
There is pay to win now it's pay to lose yay😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
How weird, but not unusual of Claus's channel.....
maybe ran out of ammo
There is a very well known NA clan that is right now purposefully losing clan battles to lower their ELO from 1200 to around 800. Doing that means they can absolutely stomp on lower elo clans next CW's season. Really disgusting but WG don't care.
Wouldn't it just be easier to create a new clan?
Must be an old game as in clan wars now you cannot enter battle with less than 12 tanks. Also if you schedule to many battles and a new one is about to pop you need to lose the current battle or take a penalty if you do not have enough people to fill two battles. These guys left the battle to go to another and not take a penalty.
🙃
You're showing you age Claus. The intro was Convoy by CW Mcall from 1976.😊
Strategic losing, I understand why but still…
... A very short conversation with BingChat coulda saved Claus from this humiliating embarrassment. Instead, his Confirmation Bias is again on full display, AND he has AGAIN wrongly accused innocent parties of cheating. STOP IT, @Claus!!!
LMAO
May be they did not have any ammo left!!
LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER FIXED GAME - IT WAS GOOD GOING AT THE START KLAUS WHAT A CRAP ENDING
option 3 ... rigged
They are throwing the match to lower their clans ELO for the next clan wars for a tank.
Maybe it was a team of Jehovah Witnesses. They found out that they were sinning.
They had to lose the game, I ve seen a lot of this shit. They only left 2 tanks alive so that they can kill them, easy as that.
Awrite Claus!
Sometimes you gotta throw a game to avoid getting a technical penalty during clan wars. Too many techs and you lose the chance to play battles, so you lose on purpose.
AY UP CLAUS
Klaus, You have no idea how CW works do you? They are intentionally throwing because they don't actually want to win the battle. It's because of how WG designed the system, if they don't attend the battle the whole clan gets penalised.
I gotta say, Claus, you don't look old enough to be making the cultural and artistic historical references that you do from time to time! Rubber Duck?? My Dad was a radio engineer so we had a CB even before the song and movie came out. I'm sure most people today have no clue what you were doing when you "air-mic'd". LOL!
10-4!
... I've said it many times ... "Klans iz gonna Klan"
... ... the PROBLEM with "Klanz Klannin'" is that they don't Klan ONLY in KlanWarz, they Klan in Random Battles. Hey ... day jus' "Klawnin' around".
Another rigged game is clear... In essence, moral and definitive conclusion in 5 points: 1) The WG decides how the players they choose should behave 2) The WG decides who should be the winning Clans 3) The WG creates Clan with the best players chosen 4) The WG consequently condemns the other Clans to lose 5) The WC... 5 bis) The WG decides everything 5 Ter) The WG is the WG and I am not a dick!
What's rigged about this?
When i was playing this useless manipulated game i was part of a clan and did clan wars. Many times the order was to throw the game away to get players into the next one.
count 3 times ten instead of twelf ? c mon
12
This video shows that Claus can't count.
WHAT IS THIS??? REALLY? RIGGED BATTLES IN CLAN WARS? OMG!
No the reasons are listed above in comments its a strategy to throw because of how clan battles work
12 FFS, counts obvious full 15 member team, but dont otherone and even people in coments says 10 WOW :D
can you do a raffle
WEhatever.....anyway a cheat--show---.....
possibly trolling or a friend clan doing a little goof?
No. The possible reasons are listed above.
is it me or was this loades of bad choices for "pros" apart from extra game functions.
They had to lose, this is typical CW strategy planning. You don't want to win all your battles... Nothing fishy here
Interesting but also a small detail into this, they retreat with 2 tanks left on the enemy side, which means mostly likely KAP clan would already know they GMPS clan is down to -5 tanks, so If you do the math correctly, if GMPS would had all 15 tanks, the overall counting at the moment of retreat would be on GMPS advantage, so KAP clan admit the defeat in a very unusual way. Or, we will never know the reason. Just my two cents on it.
Its amusing to watch someone who has no idea about clan wars or clan war mechanics and dude makes a whole youtube video to create drama. Alone from that one round there are two possible, reasonable, and legal reasons(YES its amazing you can us all of those 3 adjectives isnt it?) why a clan was purposely loosing a matchup. I wont explain any of the reasons because Claus most probably knows exactly why clans are doing it (If not may god have mercy on his viewers). And if he doesnt know he could easily ask. Its not uncommon and there more than one legit reasons. And DUDE is it ridiculous him making connections to the 11k banned accounts that were using illegal software. What a trash entertainment.
Yep, happens all the time. It’s a map where you can’t kill yourself in a lake or something so you have to wait to be killed to make it to the next battle on time.