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No affilate crap as I am not a salesman, but I welcome any support on Patreon to allow for the most accurate and realistic sound samples on KZhead to let you hear nothing but the truth: / oluvsgadgets
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No affilate crap as I am not a salesman, but I welcome any support on Patreon to allow for the most accurate and realistic sound samples on KZhead to let you hear nothing but the truth: / oluvsgadgets
It's nice to see Oluv getting back on youtube posting of headphone reviews. Keep it up!
You're a Legend. You could be rich right now like all these other reviewers who praise every product they get sent to and then pretend like they are not paid by these companies , which is complete bs. But people obviously like to get lied to... You're sacrificing so much in order to stay true. You really are one of a kind in this world and I appreciate every second of your creations.
Yeah, Meze certainly bought all reviewers out there (in and outside of youtube) *facepalm*. I'm glad this channel exists tho because He's showing it's super hard to find heatsets that are neutral. But did I learn a lot on the product itself ? Nope. There is a reason the majority of ppl like this headset. Great sound and design.
you 🤯
The HD600 is more neutral. Both Elex and particularly the 109 are a bit more bassy. 109 is a bit "v shape". Elex is the 'clearest' of the three.
Some of them are now even featured in Hifiman ads on social media.... But, no, that doesn't impact their reviews.. 😅
To me, the Focal sounds like it is playing inside of a tube. Yes, the HD600+EQ does sound closest to the original recording, but I do in fact like the tuning of the Meze 109.
It seemed slightly thick in upper bass / lower mid, and recessed or distant in upper mid. But I am getting dual coloration from my own cans. Even so, the Meze seemed to have more soul, even over youtube and double coloration.
Bro I agree I can't stand the Focal. Its so abrasive, and god forbid you'd ever want to crank it for 10 seconds it'll just clip out of existence. The Meze 109 pro I love. Actually returned the Focal and got the Meze instead. I have the Meze EQ'd and it really shines. Needs burn in too.
The focal's don't sound anything like that IRL. I think these recordings are only useful to compare deltas, not sound quality.
@@bstar777777 You are likely correct.
Really appreciate your work on all things audio and accuracy. You’re the only KZheadr who doesn’t buy in to the hype
Da ist er wieder, der gute alte Olaf! 👍 Ich freue mich, dass du wieder Kopfhörer Test hier zum Besten gibt's! Du warst immer sehr ehrlich und sehr hilfreich wenn es um Kaufentscheidungen ging. Der TWE Markt ist für mich seid der Reise mit den Earfuns eh erledigt, da ich nun weiß worauf es ankommt und nicht Jeder das Gleiche hört aufgrund der unterschiedlichen Resonanz Frequenz! Für mich eh eine Doktorarbeit deinerseits! Dein HD 600 klingt über meine Elear mit Focal Clear Pads wie eine Referenz. Viele Grüsse nach Österreich!
I wouldn’t trade my HD600s for Meze’s. Tried and true. Great to see you back Oluv.
Cool and honest review. I bought headphones and Meze 109 pro and Topping DX3 Pro+ about a week ago. My ears are used to cheap sound, the best I had was the Sennheiser Momentum M3 and I was surprised by the sound, and I constantly lacked bass in the Meze. And you say that there are many of them, and I understand that my brain is just used to it and the beauty is not in the power of the bass, but in the details. As for the first headphones in the more expensive segment, they are good.
The Sennheiser HD 600 is simply legendary...To each his own of course but the 600 is the only one I kept out of the entire 6XX line. Thanks Oluv for your awesome work and for not being a sellout.🥇
As a proud owner of 600 I wonder what is going on with audio industry if they can't match the quality of Sennheiser 600 for 20 years
I own all three of these headphones and enjoy them all. I'm enjoying your video this morning while wearing the 109 Pro. I don't personally lean toward a particular target, I just want for music to sound GOOD. Before getting into headphones I used to listen to music on traditional hi-fi gear and listened to a big range of loudspeakers by KEF, JBL, Polk Audio, Yamaha, and right on down the line. None of them sounded alike but it didn't really matter to me if they didn't sound horrible. And the 109 doesn't sound horrible. Sure it's boosted in some frequencies but I find them FUN. And they are comfortable on my head. And I find that every single pair of headphones that I own sounds different if I change how and where I place them on my melon. All of these do, so do my Dan Clark Aeon Open, and my Audeze LCD-2 and LCD-X and my Sundara. To each his/her own I always say. And with the 109 Pro atop my gourd I'm not concerned about imminent driver failure so much as I am with the ELEX. Thanks for the review Oluv, I really enjoy your use of Binaural recordings!
Hi, I just want to buy a better headphone than Sony MDR 7206. In past short time I had NAD Visio HP50 (Bad ergonomics) with Chord Mojo and Audioquest Dragonfly. Since couple of weeks I listened various videos, all say different. Only common thing Sennheiser 600 series a good start. I listened M99 Classics with Naim Amp in showroom and didnt like much. I listen various of musics soundtracks,pop, rock, our folk music. I want smooth and true response entire freqeuncy band not fatiguing overall in my budget . Around 1000 dollar budget, what is your opinion?
@@teknolojigundemi For me it all began with the HD600 and I love that headphone to this day. I have sold off a few pairs over the years but will keep the Sennheiser HD600. That said, the 660S2 doesn't sound like the 600, it's more lively. It's FUN. It's got a bump in the bottom and an elevated top end that re-awakes my 62 year old ears. I find them to be a terrific headphone, especially if you can land an open box pair which presents as brand new and offers full warranty. A $1000 budget gives you a number of choices, most of which I haven't heard. My last three purchases, the 660S2, the Meze 109 Pro and the Mark Levinson 5909 are keepers all and certainly are within that range. You can score open box deals on anything and save. The 109 Pro comes in a bit more expensive than the 660S2 with the 5909 right at a grand. My understanding of the Meze 99 series is that it's a bass lovers dream but that's not my personal thing. I like a DEEP, tight, well controlled bass kick that I can feel without getting a sense of it being so overpowering that it's likely to rattle my bumpers off. The 109 Pro fits that description, I think. I don't know, maybe it's just me but I find similarities between the 600, Elex, 109 Pro but the 600 does have that veil of which I'm not hearing on the 660S2. A budget of $1000 gets you pretty close to an open box S2 AND open box 109 Pro if you're patient (or lucky enough to locate at once). Then again, there are just so many choices that in the end you're going to have to decide what sounds best to your own ears. I wish I could be more helpful. Best of luck to you on your journey and keep listening!
Holy crap that's the most accurate mic recording I've head used for IRL headphone demoing.
Elex sounds like it has a cold, also more treble balance. Meze sounds muffled, h600+eq sounds really similar to the original recording.
Olav, I sometimes disagree with you due to your opinion of some headphones but it can be just personal preference and/or chain. Anyway, you are one of the best headphone reviewer, or maybe even the best one, that are out there :) Good job and keep it on!
It’s really great you included rock track👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
HD600 + Flat EQ is still the best sounding and I prefer. Thank you for doing this.
Great empirical demonstrations with proper controls for sound comparisons (it does give an idea of the overall sound profile compared to other headphones). The Headphone Show is an online headphone shop. Of course they must hype some headphones, otherwise they wouldn't convince people to keep buying. Headphone shops reviewing headphones will always present a conflict of interests. Thank you for your time and honesty 👍🏼
wow you really did great job with HD600
Thanks so much for the time you took to put this together! Very ear-opening!!!! Never heard any of these headphones, but do have HD650 and was seriously considering the 109 Pro. Perhaps I'll buy the HD600 instead...
The HD650 of the year 2022 is a monster once equalized. 1°) PEQ = - 4dB / 100Hz / Q: 0,50 2°) PEQ = 1,5dB / 2500Hz / Q: 8 3°) High Shelf = + 3dB / 10kHz
My friend and I tested these in our studio as work headphones. After testing we immediately threw away our DT880's. We now hear much more detail in our compositions from the 32 channel mixer table. More depth, and yes a bit more on the low end. The "honesty" of the 109Pro made us hear things we didn't notice before and made us alter and enhance our recordings So a big yes to our new Meze 109 Pro. Ok it's 800 Euro..times 2...méh😁
Can I buy your DT880 ?
@@PartyMusic775 daughter s are using it for TikTok 😁
Why would you want to torture yourself with mount Beyer type of sound ? - really.
@@pliedtka- the DT-880 is pretty smooth and tame in the treble, compared to DT770 250ohm, DT990, & DT1990pro.
All praise to Oluv. The star of this video is your unbelievable EQ of the HD600 compared to the original recording. Its damn near indistinguishable. To the Meze: classic case of overhype. It sounds boxy/muddy with reduced soundstage.
still the best channel for sound demo in youtube.
Your EQ really does nice work flattening it out, but I’d say I’m able to hear more sounds/sessions/instruments from 109 pro
If you think so
Another nice vid, Oluv! I just bought myself some HD600's, and I would like to try your custom EQ, therefore I will sign to your Patreon. Just a quick question: It's the October 22 Post, "Sennheiser HD600 - neutral EQ - flat bass", right? Could you inform me what level do I need to access it?
First of all nice video , and very different for sure , also ooof that target , i heard no headphone close to that target , even the HD600 itself isn't able to produce that accurate sound... Yeah, the meze sounds muffled and a little boomy or may i say compressed compare to the oluv tuned HD600😉😎 , unfortunately there are few people who want the realistic sound ، so little that it doesn't justify the amount of time and effort for "Fine" tunning , companies rather go for the masses with "Fun"tunning instead, btw the tonality of your tuned cans are amazing...👌🏻♠️👍🏻🎧
Thank you for video. I listened this on focal alpha monitors and an audiotechnica m40 headphones and on both setups meze sounded better for me than focals. I think its because of taste, everyone has different. For me its something new and exciting when a brand has a sound signature that is different and this keeps me listening to music. But man that peak around 13k Hz is just weird. How that didnt annoy me ;o Cheers
Why would you ever want “a signature” to spoil an original piece of music
@@Sluchayniy Hmm just for fun, for example I like kick drum in metal, so I like little low freq boost and others mid freq ups and downs gives more soft or harsh guitars, but in jazz I hate it and prefer flatter response.
@@Konraddelfingdynia rrrrright, so you claim you know better than the original artist?
@@Sluchayniy It's often not the artist who master the tracks and who says these guys mastered it on a perfectly neutral system, and if they did, who says their "taste" of how it should sound sounds perfect to you? Also taking HRTF into consideration, we don't even hear sounds the same way even if the FR from say a pair of speakers are the same.
@@Terra101 first of all, wasn’t familiar with the terms. Second, so in addition to all those side interactions, you imply that it’s fine to alter the original creation even more? Nice logic
Meze sounds very special, I can understand why some may prefer it
This demonstration was on point. You could obviously make it even more precise with a minidsp roommode correction to compensate the fluctuating low-end on the speakers
I was looking for new headphone and I compared the Meze 109 Pro, the Hifiman Ananda and the Audeze LC2C The Meze is beautiful and it sounds great, but I felt the treble difficult to control. Finally I bought a much cheaper AKG 712 Pro and I am happy . Listening the comparation in this video, I like the Meze and the HD600 over the Focal. And I can understand people like the Meze sound despite it isn’t flat. My AKG 712 Pro neither is flat but I feel it quite good for me.
K712 is a really good headphone. I had it for some time and it has a very high end sound in my opinion. Yeah it isn't flat but I find with EQ it really shines. If you can EQ 2khz and maybe 8khz down a bit on the K712 it makes it a lot better.
Bonjour de France ! votre test tombe à pic ! avant de m'acheter le Meze 109 pro je regarde un maximum de tests et le votre m'a convaincu ! Je trouve ça génial qu'on puisse avoir la transposition du son de ce que vous écoutez au casque en direct , et encore mieux les comparatifs avec les autres casques ! c'est ce que je fais souvent , je prends 3 ou 4 casques et je les compare en direct ! Bravo pour votre travail !
Oui c’est du super boulot
Du coup tu l'as acheté ?
New suscriber. l was looking for a reviewer with this approach and preferences.
Thanks for the video as always Oluv! I think these don't look like good value for money vs competition. Lots of alternatives available although the hifi headphone market seems to have stagnated a lot, not many new releases and older models are going up in price due to inflation and currency exchange rates. QUESTION: If you look at all the headphones you have at home right now, which one would you pick for best reproduction, with no eq at all? That would be an interesting video.
Hd600 I think, it seems least uncoloured to me
@@oluvsgadgets thanks. Ps I still have the Hd58x I bought after your review, not exactly neutral but pleasant and works for me as I’m sensitive to treble. But I am on the lookout for something with better soundstage - any recommendations?
@@MP_pov The HD 600 is a great, great headphone, but for people looking specifically for a wider soundstage, they are not satifactory. Now this might be a bit controversial, but maybe try a Dt1990 pro? Beyer has it more or less allways as B-stock for around 400 and used they gor for even less. The ..hum...infamous so called "Beyer peak" at 8k can be easily handled with some additional AKG K-240 Foam inlays, IF it is found to be troublesome. I'd recommend this one, because i would say, that there is nothing quite like it at around 400 (dont get it for the original price though-overpriced imo). Above average soundstage with a ..hum..ever so slightly v-shape (i guess). Other then that the AKG 712 pro comes to mind in that price region. Also a VERY pleasant pair for soundstage seakers. The biggest plus buying from companies like beyer, AKG or Sennheiser is, that you will A. allways get spare parts for a B. somewhat reasonable price. Unlike the HD58x you mentioned, which I also own (also: NOT a wide soundstage and the imaging is meh. But yeah, pleasant describes it well) . You need new pads? Yeah, here you go- 65$ on Drop (IF available) plus shipping. thats basically 50% of what i paid for the entire headphone. I tried to use regular senni pads - they do NOT fit quite right due to that rim, which goes into the notch around the cups, which is deeper then on the Drops. with the mentioned companies a problem like that will not occure. Anyway, good luck with your search o/ edith says, that, if you are willing to actually go for a somewhat "exotic" pair, you could try the new Moondrop Venus, which offer a very nice value and a solid entry in the world of planars.
@@Sporting1210 good advice, thank you! It’s such trial and error with headphones esp as you can just walk into a shop and try say 10 pairs with 1 track running to hear differences
@@Sporting1210 I really like the DT 1990's but I have had 3 of them in a row now with faulty drivers, and 2 1770's with the same problem. So I would be careful with those, seems like Beyer have some problems with their Tesla drivers. There's alot of people talking about the same problem at Amazon reviews too.
Very sensible way to test headphones. 👍 Personally I like coloration in sound because I gave up dreaming that recordings are all tuned to the same EQ. So neutral playback means nothing if it doesn’t match well with how the recording was tuned.
True. I also prefer different tunings according to the way I'm feeling or the type of music i'm listening, etc. so sometimes a bit of coloration is nice. It can also be useful when one gets older and earing loss begins to become a problem. (though it also depends on the recording)
You are at the most secure side if your playback chain is neutral then you shouldn’t care about the coloration of a recording, otherwise you will get double coloration.
@@oluvsgadgets but the recoding can be colored from the start, right?
@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh of course, but listen to pink noise or other natural spectrums. most recordings are colored in some way, especially modern pop is recorded way too bassheavy and also too sharp. Therefore I mostly use decently recorded reference tracks that I know well to judge the final sound, although the very first I always play when I try a new device is pink noise. One of my Patrons created a surround kind of pink noise which sounds way more natural than usual uncorrelated pink noise. This reveals immediately if a headphone has some issue or not and unfortunately all headphones have some problems, some less than others, but none I know was really perfectly error free.
@@oluvsgadgets was just trying to say that sometimes maybe using a colored headphone can make a recording sound more natural/neutral by evening it's own coloration. Like your example of bassboosted pop music. Maybe using a bass light headphone can balance things out. In this example maybe double coloration could be a good thing. (the end result being better than just a single one) I might be wrong but I think that's what the first post was about.
Another great video! Really curious to know if you can save the Sony XM5 with user EQ.
I think so, I was surprised it was much better than all the other popular crap
@@oluvsgadgets I just got my XM5s in the mail today. I can't for the life of me get them to sound like the Q30s.
Meze 109 totally hyped...
Hope you can get your hands on the harmonicdyne Zeus Elites and try them, would love to hear what you think of their sound profile
Can you show your personal neutral target of frequency response? The hd600 EQ sounded perfect.
In this demonstration the Focal and the Mezze sound like shit compared to the HD600. Certainly wouldn't spend so much money on crappy headphones like these. After all these years the Senn's still seem to be the absolute value for the money sound wise. Thank you for the eye-opening video and keep up the good work. A happy T50Rp Mk3 and Topping DX3 Pro+ user here, cheers!
Bruh cmon, I own an Hd600 too, but in no way does it sound as resolute or as dynamic as my Focal Elex, Clears, or Celestee lol. I dont think its 3x-5x the price better, but it definitely sounds a good deal more engaging, and it has nothing to do with tonality I dont think the Meze 109 have the same resolution as the Focals so I wont argue for it as much (I own it too). But the resolution is still better than the 600 and the tonality is vastly differnet than most headphones on the market, on top of it being the most comfortable headphone on the market You dont gotta put down good headphones because the hd600 is a great headphone too, especially at its price
@@PantsaBear Can't argue on this. It's nice to hear a second opinion from someone actually owning the 600 and the Elex. I just based my criticism on Oluv's demonstration and only. Maybe I was a bit rough on calling the other two headphones "crappy", so I take it back. But for the most part I generally agree with you as resolution concerns. But Oluv didn't talk about the resolution of the 109's. He clearly emphasized on the coloration of sound that is presented on the Mezze.
@@Deeper-Trends Thats fair, and no problem. I'm not really a fan of calling headphones "bad" because the tonality difference they're doing is well-done, just not to someone's preference lol. My bad if I was harsh
There are new Valco's on the market, VMK25 they are called. Liked Ur review of the VMK20. Maybe you would like to review the new ones? Apparently they have made big improvements compared to the old ones and the company claims to have a neutral soundstage just like you prefer.
I doubt they would like to send one over as I had quite a dispute with the engineer who tuned them.
interesting comparison
How can I find eq adjustments for HD 58x, Hd600. I just have wide band eq, but I can't read graphs or harman curves, compensations.
Exactly the video I needed to see. Looks like a pass for me. 800 dollars is too much for this headphone. Treble glare was piercing. Makes me wonder how many reviewers are basically shills on the youtube land. Thanks oluv for an honest take
Pretty much all of them. If they tell you a headphone sucks, the company would probably not keep sending you stuff, and you will have no content. Shout out to Meze who keeps sending Oluv their headphones tho. But with that said, people still have different taste how they want their headphones to sound. So you can't just say this sucks and this doesn't, unless it's really bad.
Also Oluv only listens to one genre it seems. Headphones do excel or suck at particular genres and all aren’t all-rounders.
My question to you is how do you keep your ears in peak condition as listening to is only as good as the condition of your ears?
Truly German, seeking the most neutral headphone! Sometimes people enjoy some colouration or liveliness. Anyway I think you’re right that HD600s plus EQ is basically as good as it gets for a dynamic driver. Beyond that you need to go with a different type of transducer like planar or electrostatic to have a different experience.
well it is supposed to be high fidelity ;)
Beeindruckend, wie nah du den HD600 an die Originalaufnahme gebracht hast. Würd ich auch gern mal "in echt" genießen das Teil. Sonnige Grüße aus Kärnten! ☀️
Pues si suena muy coloreado, pero a mi me gusto, conserva la separación instrumental y los detalles, lo único malo es su precio, es muy elevado , saludos desde tierra azteca.
I wonder what do you think about 660 S2. Superior version of 600 line as Sennheiser says. At $599, double the price of 600, how it stacks up.
He would hate it because it has mid bass coloration compared to the 600. Also he never mentions that the 600 have a tiny sound stage.
Hey Oluv, I am listening via the Truthear Hexa which is a linear diffuse field tuned iem for 70 on sale and I can clearly hear the character of all of these different varieties of gear.
Diffuse field is completely wrong as target although others will contradict, but it will never sound like the speakers let alone my recordings, although you can get used to any coloration after a while. Also keep in mind that this was a very early approximation of my headphone taget towards the speakers, I refined it way more in the meantime and can offer the result only for a HD58X so far, it’s not that easy to transform that response onto other headphones that easily and quickly.
What are the make of the loudspeaker you are comparing the headphone 🎧 to in this video? They look awesome...
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Maybe other reviewera and other people are into colored sound, i guess. I also sometimes, depending on context, prefer a more colored sound (not completely off balance of course). Don't get this as a criticism, I really appreciate your work and value your opinion. What i really like in watching reviews (reviewers) is exactly having different points of view according to different tastes. Just my input on the matter. I haven't even tried the Meze. (Not planning either, too expensive for me)
But Oluv, I was in the store, I took my Mojo2 and tried the 109 Pro with La Roux- in for the kill Skream Remix and…. I good goosebump. My goosebumps never lie to me. My Hd650 is crying…my wallet is screaming…what do I do? 😢
Is there a video (here or on patreon) where you compare the HD600 with the equalized HD600?
Not yet but soon to come
@@oluvsgadgetsoh, thank you. I thought the HD600 is nearly neutral out of the box. But I'm interested in the difference between nearly neutral and neutral. As you might remember, I use the HD58x, which you recommanded a few years ago as a nobrainer. In your comparism it sounded not very different compared to the HD600. I'm still happy with it and I drive it with my smartphone, which is no problem. If you could compare the equalized HD600 to the unequalized HD58x also, I would be very happy. But as I know that the unequalized HD58x sounds not very different to the unequalized HD600, maybe a little bit warmer, it's not basically neccessary. Thank you for this interesting comparism.
The difference between the focal and the maze at 8:00 is HUUUGE
I own both, I wouldnt really trust just that small clip at that timestamp. They do different things very well and excel at different genres/song types. Meze 109 is probably the most comfortable headphone ever made though lol, Elex is probably little above average
I think you should try with a good headphone amp to see the full potential of these headphones.
Dude, what potential? These headphones are very efficient as it's been shown in the video. There are no goddamn magical qualities a "good headphone amp" can provide to these headphones, it's just how they sound and always will sound unless you equalize them.
Hey, habe dich seit 2-3 Jahren nicht mehr geschaut, weil ich in der Zeit viele Probleme hatte und keine Zeit hatte mich mit Audio Produkten zu befassen. Existiert deine Datenbank noch, wo man die Geräte vergleichen und reinhören konnte?
I hate focal elex, that is for sure. Meze 109 Pro aren't bad, I can say that I love them. The sound have some impact and it's not boring. Only that price around 799$/€. Sennheiser hd 600 ware different than Meze, but great in their own legendary way. But would be wise to think to use HD600 with a mobile phone?? Meze 109 Pro yes, from what I heard. I love Meze 109 Pro, they have my taste. HD600 are great too. Focal elex are the worst I heard in demo videos so far... Thanks 🙏 for an amazing demo. Videos like this one are extremely important for people like myself, who don't have the opportunity to test the headphones before buying them.
I think almost any headphone with a good EQ sounds better than any other without any EQ so it seems rather obvious. The question is whether an EQ of similar granularity would make the 109 sound meaningfully better than the HD600. I would expect there to be an improvement in the bass at the very least. That said neutrality is the best goal with coloration often being a compromise when neutral isn't attainable.
Yeah there is no automatic tool to compensate for every ear canal yet that works reliably. The only thing that works is manual laboring. So basically it's helpful if the company creates simply flat headphones without Resonancy peaks. Like the sennheiser hd600 for example to give a nice starting point
The treble response of the Meze is full of peaks which are hard to control precisely thus my answer would be: no. Best would be a properly tuned IEM as their overall response is way smoother to begin with but you need to recreate the pinna effect properly and compensate for the individual ear canal resonance, then you would benefit from a way cleaner sound. The grainyness or my recording results of strong averaging and smoothing and simply loss of data with every recording step, thus will never represent reality by 100% but I tried to get as close as possible
I use EQ not only for different headphones but for different recordings too. I use APO with 4 presets for hd600 and 4 for dt990pro. I change the presets depending on what I am listening to at the moment. Some recordings are just not recorded/mixed/mastered as they should (especially when recorded live). Over the years I learned to quickly apply the correct preset to compensate - because there are only 4 its not always 100% perfect compensation but it starts to sound acceptable to a point where using more presets would introduce more complication than benefit.
@@liamkaloy do the same switching headphones depending on source (mastering/amp) and/or genre (don't like eq)
@@artureff3046 applying EQ is way faster and easier. As for not liking EQ, the music you listen to is EQued multiple times, on single tracks, then on mix, then on mastering. Your final EQ aplication for taste, bad mix or hearing loss does not degrade the sound quality.
I am curious what headphones you have EQ’d to see if I own any of them.
Hd 600 still wiping the floor with everything
You should praise some of those headphones to get money for a living at least. Companies will stop to send you their new models. Well, it's your way, you are the most "high fidelity" reviewer on youtube, good to watch your reviews even if they are very rare. BTW I never thought that sennheiser hd600 can have such accurate treble, I thought all headphones have peaky jagged treble and hd600 is not exception. That's why I dont use headphones anymore only IEM's, I tried to equalize my superlux hd681 using hell of a lot filters like I do with IEM's but it works only until you wear them on your head. I mean you can eq them to close to perfect treble (some very narrow regions at 10.7-11.2 kHz still remain silent probably because of waves cancel each other) - but mostly treble is good - but the moment you put the off and went to drink tea or anything - that's it, you lost your perfect treble, when you put headphones on, you cant do it exactly the same spot and treble becomes shifted again. Even if I try to put them centered and equalize - this doesnt work and btw superlux hd 681 have the same kind of design as meze 109 - soft, not rigid headband.
I have the Meze 109 Pro's and Sennheiser HD-600's. Sennheisers are good, but would take the Meze 109 pro over 600's anyday. As do most others who have compared.
9:13 I don't know anything about audiophile, but I can tell you that HD600 = 99.99999% ORIGINAL RECORDING for my ears
Unfortunately, I have to say that the Focal sounds very tinny in all frequencies. Kinda scratchy and like a robot. The Meze sounds nice and clear in the highs, but the lows are not clean at all. I think the Sennheiser HD 600 with EQ is the best. But I haven't tested any of them myself, so it may also sound a little different in real life.
Please review and test the Audeze LCD XC or LCD 5 headphones
Praise Oluv who isn't a shill
Maybe marshall major 4 review I think they have quite unique sound I wonder what is your opinion about them.
All Marshalls I have heard so far were just horrid
@@oluvsgadgets Oh so that the case thanks for the reply though.
My very first impression is that the 109 pro has too little of the 3khz and too little of the 300-600hz range. Plus a more sparkle above 10khz. Overall it's not horrible, compared to other stuff I've heard. It's interesting that you chose the hd600 over the 650 or 58x, I preferred those as the 600 has basically no bass to begin with. Though you didn't like the Sundara, it's what I use, the treble is a bit hot but otherwise it's more or less balanced for the rest of the response. It sounds much like the AMT-1 speakers a friend had. The mids are lowered compared to the hd600 which is a drawback.. I kind of hate messing with EQ since I use headphones on all sorts of devices. Often, it just made it worse because of wrong targets.
Try the Qudelix 5K it offers 20 fully parametric filters and you can save several presets for various headphones . You can also try the built in profiles for all kinds of headphones but those suck.
@@oluvsgadgets Thanks, though I do find it a little hard to tune the Q and frequency of filters blindly. The Soundcore q30's definitely improved a lot even with their simple EQ, though. Though I think a lot of headphones just have resonances that can't be fully tamed, the good ones like the hd600 series don't. I think, ideally, a planar or better yet electrostatic driver plus eq would be the best behaved driver combo. It seems like it's harder to tune those types of drivers mechanically without messing it up.
Elex is boxy not pleasant sounding, the Meze has poor mids. EDIT : the HD600 sounds the best
hello oluv. are you still recommend akg k361 for natural sound?
It’s ok and better than many but not really “natural”
it looks nice but sound is 6/10 at best , I hate that mid hollow sounding weirdness at like 2.3khz and that 8 to 9khz boost kinda weird too and the 13khz too is weird but not as bad of 9khz boost IMO , anyway great review
9:12, lol its really hard to belive that is a transition from hd600 to original. Actually it could be at least a little bit noticeable if it was just instant, without using smooth transition effect.
Hi bro ..Do you also provide eq for live band iem ?
What about the ath r70x? Lots of people claim they are very neutral.
I feel like 109 sounds like a closed-back headphone. Prefer the sound of hd600 here TBH. About Focals: they are heavy in comparison to Sennheisers and it is a problem for me
meze sounded bit too airy, elex a bit shouty in the midrange, the hd600 with eq is pretty amazing actually.
Anybody know the max input power in mW of the Meze 109 pro ? I ca t find anything about that in the internet.
HD600 sounds true flat, I love their bass, middle and highs, BUT comparing them to original sound, I still hear that hd600 are darker, warmer - they lie(cheating) in the very high highs (maybe it is 12-16KHz). here at 9:13 focus on that closed hithats (sand in the box shaked by hand) - you will notice that it is darker/warmer compare to original recording
Please test the neumann ndh 30.😎
Interesting, when listening through the k612pro, meze 109 feels very stuffy and closed in compared to hd600 and Elex, not sure why it's praised so much as it doesn't really sound like anything special to be honest.
HD 600 is still the headphone king, it's amazing really, not even Sennheiser themselves have managed to surpass it yet...
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@@alvarg That one doesn't count 😄
11:30 what a difference when it switches to the elex. like its playing from inside a dumpster
Hey, after a very long time, why don't you review IEM.Please start reviewing IEMS also because nowadays they have become very popular and many people are confused like me which one to buy in lowest budget with high quality of bass, overall with theatre experience sound.
Iems are flawed, they simply don’t work and neee to be adjusted to the individual ear
@@oluvsgadgets have you ever used any iem till now which one is your favourite
@@crackgordon i had hundreds of IEMs, but they all sounded different, none really correct. Once you hear how “correct” sounds, you won’t want to hear to anything else.
@@oluvsgadgets sir I'm a music lover,I listen all types of music but i search something unique sounds from different music instruments as well as from non instruments including mouth etc. I love listening music in night times because night is silent and our brain catches lots of details while we listen in a good earbuds,earphones,headphones and IEMS etc . I watch different types of youtuber on different types of topics related to music then i found you when i started my journey towards youtube i was amazed by your explanation on details what we get from earphones etc.,i personally liked your videos. Sir i it true that in IEM it separates the instruments as i researched by watching others iem reviews.If yes I want to experience by listening music on iem suggest me cheap iem because I'm poor can't afford high range of iem, if you suggest me my priority will be bass as Indians love to hear it should be something like for example when you watch a movie in a theatre sound separation from different speaker's rotation of sound in our ears and head balancing the beats from one ear to other ear.when i was a kid i used to have a walkman BPL it used to have earphones not buds and when i hear them by pressing both the earphones in my ears with full volume they used to sound incredibly superb the instruments separation was to good i could remember it till now some instruments which we can't hear i heard them crystal clear in high volume,at present I'm using boult earbuds which are very cheap it costs 350 INR.
@@oluvsgadgets 100% with you on this one. And it's not just the individual ears that make huge differences, it's almost everything. Even slightly different fit, positioning, eartip type size and material, make huge differences. In the end, I don't think the same exact iems can possibly sound even close to two different persons. One may find some iems that they find "enjoyable", but I think that's as much luck as the quality of the things. I only use them when I can't use headphones or speakers, and I don't think it's relevant to tell anyone which iems I prefer since I'm sure they will sound different to anybody else. I consider the whole iem review thing pretty much useless.
Thank you VERY MUCH for your test with binaural listening. I was going to buy the Meze 109 Pro but ultimately your video dissuaded me, I don't like the too hot/bass side of this headset at all.
To my ear, the Meze sounds too warm and a bit muffled. The Focals sound artificial/fake/processed and the HD600 sound as natural as the original.
Who can answer this question, dont know if OLuv gadget will read this comment, Can a headphone be EQd so that it sounds a certain way and stays so, even when you connect it to a phone or anything like a hardware machine no computer, like, can an indidual tune a headphone so that it retains that sound signature ie, different from the factory sound that everyone else gets. Thanks, its like that is what am gettintg from what I hear Oluv Gadget saying, and that is something very interesting. please answer someone
You can tune it passively by adding stuff to the drivers or at the back, adding foam in front or swapping pads etc but this is very imprecise. With an EQ you can precisely affect all frequencies but you need a playback device which supports EQ, I recommend the Qudelix5K which has 20 parametric filters and should allow to equalise even the weirdest sounding headphones to something more normal
I hope you haven't looked at the headphone review, we are waiting for your advice for headphones urgently
why didnt you use neumann kh80 as the flat monitor
As I got screwed by the seller when I wanted to buy them and received an empty box. I have no money to spend on gear anymore.
hi :) have you been try Neumann NDH 30 ?
Overrated junk
@@oluvsgadgets thx for answer :)
@@oluvsgadgets Most headphones are, HD 600 is hard to beat.
Can we have a picture of your target compared to the Harman target?
No
@@oluvsgadgets I mean it is your personal target and you have all the rights to it and I respect that, but all other reviewers share their personal targets based on their preferences and hearing perception. So we just wanted to know what is your perception of neutral based on your personal target that's all. If you don't want to share it, that is up to you and we respect that.
@@oluvsgadgetsI figures out you would response that, it's ok, I understand.
Where to find this EQ for hd600?
Elex no chance against the 109pro’s!But the hd 600 still one of the best,the natural King!Everyones should own a hd600s!
11:55 What's the name of the song?
wow you really exposed it. the meze vocals are thin and sharp with sibilance. i dont like that at all. the meze does sound more open and that's where it shines. the focal sound signature is off. Sennheiser is accurate as you said but has treble roll off (which takes a bit of the detail out).
The Meze are not neutral, we all know that, they are not for studying, for audio editing, etc. They are designed to sit on the couch, with a cup of tea and enjoy your music on your DAP. For me they are not comparable headphones.
Who would enjoy music with a heavily coloured sound? If your speakers sounded like that you would dump them
For me they have a slight highlight, but if you are used to totally neutral and analytical, everything will seem colored to you. I wouldn't throw them away. But I respect your opinion. 90% of the reviews liked the way they sound, are they all wrong? are they all bribed by the brands?@@oluvsgadgets
HP builders are catering for many buyers' prference for warmer, darker, bassier sound. Even the Harman target reflects this, and I suspect the target groups were essentially North American I share your preference for a more level or 'even' response down low.
Dr. Olive vs Dr. Oluv
EQ'd HD600 and 'original recording' sound identical through my HD800S... the 109 sounds muffled. Elex sounds worst of the 3
Did you just say HD600 with EQ? This is stupid, I don't get it. What am I missing here?
You miss the point obviously. There is no “flat” headphone without obvious coloration on the market yet. While the Hd600 is still one of the most neutral ones it nevertheless needs lots of correction to really sound flat, but definitely less than most other headphones that are hyped for whatever reason.
@@oluvsgadgets The correction EQ argument can be made for all headphones, including the 109.
@@Tealc2323 Wrong, 109 pro have far too large deviations in the frequency range, they are overhyped garbage.
Try zmf line headphones
I love that thiccc sound of the Meze. I don't care if it's colored.
Woaw. I've just tested the 109 last week, and didn't hear this obvious sound colouration. To my ears, your video (excellent and so useful btw) is a clear ad for the Sennheiser. The Focal sounds boring and dead, the Meze sounds too warm. I'll go and listen to the Meze again tomorrow with a Chord Mojo 2 (which has the reputation to be neutral and analytical). Thanks anyway !
Without having a neutral reference, you usually won’t notice any coloration as the brain will try to adjust to anything. Btw there is no really neutral headphone on the market.
@@oluvsgadgets I'll take advantage of both outputs of Chord Mojo 2 to switch instantly from the 109 to another (I planned to test Focal Clear MG and Hifiman Ananda Stealth Edition in the same time).
@@sanchomill they all color the sound just differently.
I prefer focal elex over meze 109 pro, very muffled mids
Sir made video with 710 JBL Party Box quick some time please
Why should i waste my time?