I forgot to make a video about this $150,000 server

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  • Let's play a game. It's called "let's see how many people read the pinned comment before scrolling down to make their own". We knew we had it, but it was a low priority because Optane's use-cases were few and far between and it faded from relevance shortly after our first video. Intel didn't ask for it back because of the same reasons. Also.. Please... This isn't hardware we bought, nor does it have any actual value. Engineering sample components - especially storage - gets shredded once they are sent back to to the manufacturer anyway. No starving kids were denied access to a 6TB RAM server. The "we forgot" is just a fun hook for the video because I stubbed my toe on the box in the warehouse a little while ago and thought "hey, oh yeah this thing.. maybe it would be a good vehicle for a video on what the heck happened to Optane" In a nutshell: Relax, guy. Also at 2:41 we forgot a zero and should have said 50GB x 120 = 6TB Linus

    @LinusTechTips@LinusTechTipsАй бұрын
    • Oh 21 seconds ago.... anyways side note. A spring cleaning video once a year would be pretty cool :D

      @SamNolan1@SamNolan1Ай бұрын
    • I hope you had safety sandals on.

      @damustermann@damustermannАй бұрын
    • So, should I change my spinning discs to cheap optane?

      @Swedishchef11@Swedishchef11Ай бұрын
    • hey

      @ramiwen2887@ramiwen2887Ай бұрын
    • it's ok linus, next time just don't stub your toe

      @thecrazycat8745@thecrazycat8745Ай бұрын
  • I also always forget my $150.000 server

    @diego7399@diego7399Ай бұрын
    • Hate it when that happens

      @opposedscroll7596@opposedscroll7596Ай бұрын
    • me too 😔

      @Jesus-father@Jesus-fatherАй бұрын
    • Same, it’s always in my laundry room cupboard

      @DJYoutube312@DJYoutube312Ай бұрын
    • I always wondered why I was in debt

      @MasterCraft_48@MasterCraft_48Ай бұрын
    • This is how things you don't own get sold at a company. Honestly Linus transparency is nice but just do yourself a favor and avoid the target and leave stuff like that out of the video..

      @bknighty28@bknighty28Ай бұрын
  • Hi Linus, Intel here: Can I have my server back that we sent and lost three years ago... DM for the return delivery address :D

    @unknownguy6402@unknownguy6402Ай бұрын
    • Intel u owe me a 10900k still, that RMA process was not user error.

      @aaronrdaniels@aaronrdanielsАй бұрын
    • No, I'm Intel. And so is my wife.

      @tomihawk01@tomihawk01Ай бұрын
    • Intel you still need to give me that 14900k

      @ethanegbertno741@ethanegbertno741Ай бұрын
    • intel, you forgot to refund me my $300,000, when are you going to do?

      @raghavawasthi9593@raghavawasthi9593Ай бұрын
    • I am Sparta... _whoops, I meant..._ Intel! Yes, I am Intel.

      @Cimlite@CimliteАй бұрын
  • The Optane Persistent Memory was really good for databases where you had a large amount of random RW IOPS. It was still just WAY too expensive for what it was though.

    @jp-ny2pd@jp-ny2pdАй бұрын
    • I wonder if the price was an "inherent issue" with the technology or due to economics of scale

      @fish3977@fish3977Ай бұрын
    • ​@@fish3977 I feel like it's always economies of scale. I doubt it's particularly exotic under the hood, just different enough to need new manufacturing lines.

      @ashtonhoward5582@ashtonhoward5582Ай бұрын
    • it's cheaper to buy more servers and scale horizontally and you will get much higher IOPS.. ofc if you are using distributed database..

      @djordje1999@djordje1999Ай бұрын
    • @@djordje1999 When it came out it was a pretty unique thing for a while. But essentially yeah, a year or two later you could just slap NVMe's in a bunch of servers and shard/fragment/split the workload. Optane still good for latency like they demonstrated but I just never saw much of a need for it. I don't think most workloads are sensitive enough to tell the difference between 10ms and 1ms latency. If it is you just throw terabytes of real ram at it now and solve the persistency issue another way.

      @jp-ny2pd@jp-ny2pdАй бұрын
    • @@fish3977Partially economies of scale, partially Intel trying the same con they tried once with Rambus again. (Trying to use their market domination to break in a new memory tech with a tonne of patent baggage which means any companies not in on the con are very reluctant to try and figure out manufacturing the stuff unless they have to.) It's a real shame honestly, if it became a true standard free from any single company then it'd have a whole range of uses across the board. Even on my main desktop I wouldn't mind getting a 128GB PCIe drive to use as a dedicated swap device; the latency means it'd be faster than anything else used for swap even much newer NVMe SSDs, the write endurance would benefit that kind of usage and the non-volatility would allow it to remain suitable for hibernation and the like.

      @TheDemocrab@TheDemocrab29 күн бұрын
  • FYI: a cryptographic erase doesn't do any (significant) writes: it just erases the key and assumes an adversary will be unable to retrieve the old encrypted data.

    @DanielFSmith@DanielFSmithАй бұрын
    • I think their point is that the system will have to refill that RAM on every boot, which requires a lot more writing than a storage drive that would just keep it around.

      @thewiirocks@thewiirocks27 күн бұрын
  • 00:28 That's a big write off you got there.

    @wesselm180@wesselm180Ай бұрын
    • The IRS forgot about the 150k server too

      @MasterCraft_48@MasterCraft_48Ай бұрын
    • Waiting for another 20 min segment of Linus raging on the WAN show.

      @user-fe8hp6jv9f@user-fe8hp6jv9fАй бұрын
    • Fuck.. you got here first.

      @TheCasualSubculturist@TheCasualSubculturistАй бұрын
    • "Why do we still have this server, Linus?" "Take a guess, Luke." "Because you can write it off?" "Because I can write it off."

      @Perseca@PersecaАй бұрын
    • Glad to see someone else read between the lines

      @Mrmcfastman@MrmcfastmanАй бұрын
  • With Motherboard BIOSs it's like with tutorials for port forwarding: "You just open you routers thingie and then I can't help you because every one has a different idea of where to put it"

    @Kaenguruu@KaenguruuАй бұрын
    • SUCH A GOOD COMPARISON

      @sweet.2881@sweet.2881Ай бұрын
    • lmao so true

      @ChucklesTheChicken@ChucklesTheChickenАй бұрын
    • or PSU manufacturers uses different pinouts on their power supplies, not even within the same model now

      @GameCyborgCh@GameCyborgChАй бұрын
    • That's also assuming they even still call it ports. AT&T when I worked for them insisted on calling them pinholes. That was annoying as hell having to translate between their stupid kb articles (which any of the untrained techs would adhere to) and the actual naming.

      @Smokex365@Smokex365Ай бұрын
    • That sounds like the horizontal shuffle too.

      @WayStedYou@WayStedYouАй бұрын
  • 0:58 Doing firefly dirty here... ye may take my home take my land tell me where I cannot stand.. but with this crazy ass PC I will be serenity

    @maxwvm7345@maxwvm7345Ай бұрын
  • The insights about Intel's optane were really informative. It's fascinating how something so remarkable could flop in the market due to timing and competition.

    @4RILDIGITAL@4RILDIGITALАй бұрын
    • The pricing did not help either. It was super expensive. Even now the only PCIe 4.0 Optane model you can buy (P5800X) costs you a nice $800+ used for mere 400GB. Not to mention Intel's stupid decision to keep it to themselves and not license the technology out to other manufacturers,. They could be making a buck on every Optane sold for decades. Instead they are now stuck with half a billion dollar inventory most people dont want.

      @Raivo_K@Raivo_KАй бұрын
    • They entirely forgot that Optane isn't actually dead, but now a spun off company named Solidigm.

      @sbrazenor2@sbrazenor227 күн бұрын
    • @@sbrazenor2Optane - is dead. The SSD division than intel sold is called Solidigm. Two different things. Optane was the marketing name. 3DXpoint was the technology name and "Phase Change Memory" was the technology itself. Theoretically someone else could develop something based on this technology in the future.

      @Raivo_K@Raivo_K27 күн бұрын
  • I vacuumed my rug and when I went to clean out the vacuum I found seven of these that I had forgotten about.

    @Sageofthewhisper@SageofthewhisperАй бұрын
    • You won't believe what I found in my basement last weekend. 5 floor-to-ceiling packed pallets with sealed optane drives. That's 3 more pallets than I found two days earlier in the basement.

      @megapro125@megapro125Ай бұрын
  • I almost made a joke about Linus needing to make this video so he could write off the expense.. but I didn’t want to hear him go on that rant during the WAN show again. 😂

    @PhilipUlrich@PhilipUlrichАй бұрын
    • if that division is gone and they liquidated inventory then he has to do the vid this fiscal quarter. Now it has a business purpose and likely keeps it from being a $150k gift. 😂😂😂

      @918Boyz@918BoyzАй бұрын
    • HMRC isn't going to let them just expense a $150,000 server, gotta capitalize and depreciate.

      @Senthiuz@SenthiuzАй бұрын
    • Your not that special

      @jasenrock@jasenrockАй бұрын
    • We might get cheap screwdrivers tho

      @undercatviper@undercatviperАй бұрын
    • @@Senthiuz it's a bit outside of their jurisdiction

      @lawrencejob@lawrencejobАй бұрын
  • I know a couple of SQL instances that would loooooove that precious ram !!

    @DaSyEnTisT@DaSyEnTisTАй бұрын
    • love how everyone is saying this 😂 makes sense considering most sql dbs are just huge hashtables

      @trustytrojan@trustytrojanАй бұрын
  • Crackhead idea: what if you use that optane server as a cache the entirety of your video server for a Blazingly Faster(tm) video editing experience? Or a stupidly fast Steam cache for the LAN party center?

    @nekomakhea9440@nekomakhea9440Ай бұрын
    • Well for 4k video 6tb probably is not enough, as I suppose they have multiple editors working at once. But the steam cache is probably a good idea! However networking will limit the speed substantially, I think... And latency is not a benefit if you just want to grab 120gb of the newest cod...? Hm just thinking out loud. What do you think?

      @Tungil90@Tungil90Ай бұрын
    • floatplane cache....

      @tanmaypanadi1414@tanmaypanadi1414Ай бұрын
  • i found two of those lying around in my garage yesterday

    @SuperGeekTime@SuperGeekTimeАй бұрын
    • same found a couple in my cats bed

      @urmom1144@urmom1144Ай бұрын
    • I should check inside my GameCube.

      @EkiToji@EkiTojiАй бұрын
    • Yeah, my dog sniffed one up too Don't know how he trained for that though...

      @G89-@G89-Ай бұрын
    • Accidentally choked on one while eating breakfast

      @Melovi@MeloviАй бұрын
    • I can’t go to a yard sale without tripping over a couple

      @reililithbob5541@reililithbob5541Ай бұрын
  • That one guy at optain tryign to save the incoming closure "I swear LTT said they will be making a video will give us the exposure we need just wait" ...

    @tehkast@tehkastАй бұрын
    • RIP in peace to that guy

      @ChristianStout@ChristianStoutАй бұрын
    • ​@@ChristianStout Rest In Peace in Peace? LoL

      @nocturn9x@nocturn9xАй бұрын
    • ​@@nocturn9x Don't you mean lol out loud?

      @Alejandro192011@Alejandro192011Ай бұрын
    • @@Alejandro192011🤣

      @nocturn9x@nocturn9xАй бұрын
    • yea, lol= lol out loud, so that means lol out loud out loud which means lol out loud out loud out loud, etc etc etc @@Alejandro192011

      @lnfinyx@lnfinyxАй бұрын
  • That Firefly joke is cruel and unusual. Time to go rewatch it I guess

    @SRVZephyr@SRVZephyrАй бұрын
  • now that you mention youtube thumbnails, one of the best things i ever did was download a browser extension called de-arrow, that essentially changes every youtube title and thumbnail to either a community submitted frame from the video and title or just a random frame and removes all caps from it.

    @anonymeperson4193@anonymeperson4193Ай бұрын
  • Yeah sure, i just store my 200k servers in my attic. Forget them all the time I feel you linus

    @nicolocatanese3477@nicolocatanese3477Ай бұрын
    • we are kin -LS

      @LinusTechTips@LinusTechTipsАй бұрын
    • no other reply let me fix that

      @misamsy3482@misamsy3482Ай бұрын
    • No other "other" reply, let me fix that.

      @abyananas6227@abyananas6227Ай бұрын
    • No other "other "other"" reply. I will fix nothing

      @NarikGaming@NarikGamingАй бұрын
    • Must be nice to afford an attic after buying one of these, I could only afford a basement. Fml

      @norpse9370@norpse9370Ай бұрын
  • That cruel firefly reference opened some wounds... not shiny

    @Arafenion@ArafenionАй бұрын
    • Gorram verse is too cruel

      @shaikhulud1989@shaikhulud1989Ай бұрын
    • Browncoats unite!

      @GPHawaii@GPHawaiiАй бұрын
    • Doubleplusunshiny

      @richardsteiner8992@richardsteiner8992Ай бұрын
    • It's still too soon for that

      @PhilRennie@PhilRennieАй бұрын
  • I love linus (or the editors) ability to explain complex high tech stuff in such nice and simple way...underrated skills..good job guys

    @majd2@majd2Ай бұрын
  • Postgresql database server with caching enabled. There's some optane benchmarks I want to see.

    @LokiCDK@LokiCDKАй бұрын
  • It's crazy that just such a short time ago Optane was praised as this "holy grail" and desirable thing. And then suddenly it disappeared and now no one is talking about anymore.

    @Jehty21@Jehty21Ай бұрын
    • Kinda makes me sad honestly.

      @Derpalerpa@DerpalerpaАй бұрын
    • It didn't help that like Linus mentioned, they locked it down to only making sense when paired with their top tier CPUs. It didn't make sense having 1TB support when like mentioned, you could easily just buy 1TB of server RAM anyway. They also didn't help themselves in the consumer space by locking it down to only working on Optane approved motherboards (which meant it locked out AMD CPU users from using it as it was intended). Proprietary tech is not always good and this proved it, even if it was good.

      @AndyMitchellUK26@AndyMitchellUK26Ай бұрын
    • Another on the pile of dead intel promises

      @WayStedYou@WayStedYouАй бұрын
    • there are other 3d nand alternatives that got way more support from the OEMs. I think it's called CXL

      @tanmaypanadi1414@tanmaypanadi1414Ай бұрын
    • like Linus said, it was too little, too late. It was the coolest sh*t at the time of its inception, but by the time it showed up on the shelves, you could buy all the RAM you'll ever need for $200 and gen 4 SSDs that will outlive the heat death of the universe at about the same price. And as such, there is simply no point.

      @FTreba@FTrebaАй бұрын
  • 2:41 that math ain't mathing

    @GhostSniper1204@GhostSniper1204Ай бұрын
    • Only off by one order of magnitude, I call that close enough.

      @urgay1992@urgay1992Ай бұрын
    • I was making sure I also wasn’t insane. I even opened my calculator

      @TenForceFalls@TenForceFallsАй бұрын
    • ​@@TenForceFallsThe insert is wrong. He says it correctly 10 seconds prior.

      @phoenix9531@phoenix9531Ай бұрын
    • @@phoenix9531 well, the text shows 6TB soo still incorect

      @-lolus-@-lolus-Ай бұрын
    • you expect math from the same people who forgot a 150k server?

      @Preske@PreskeАй бұрын
  • I bet Wendell would do some really weird homebrew AI with it, if it got lost down in Kentucky...

    @TheBibliofilus@TheBibliofilusАй бұрын
    • Wendell has access to boards of optane. Moore the merrier.

      @tanmaypanadi1414@tanmaypanadi1414Ай бұрын
  • 6:00 I don't know how to do this, but... it should theoretically be possible to write a small C library you inject yourself to override how malloc works. Then you just do your own malloc on the octane drives, and failing that, forward to the base implementation. A mate of mine did something similar using an OpenGL extension to use VRAM as RAM.

    @billy65bob@billy65bobАй бұрын
  • 0:57 Oh, that hurts. I'm a leaf on the wind.

    @Cobinja@CobinjaАй бұрын
    • Whatch how i soar

      @VivienFRENOT@VivienFRENOTАй бұрын
    • Browncoats unite!

      @KenS1267@KenS1267Ай бұрын
    • I will annualy leave a new comment there ... just for the sentimental value.

      @black8ight@black8ightАй бұрын
    • "Watch how I---" *squelch* *thunk*

      @A-Parently_Gaming@A-Parently_GamingАй бұрын
    • Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal

      @BennyColyn@BennyColynАй бұрын
  • 0:58 Oof, that Firefly reference cuts deep.

    @AusSkiller@AusSkillerАй бұрын
  • That's actually impressively good for databases. Also, it fits surprisingly good to the lean Enterprise environment, where you don't yet need the distributed side of Enterprise, though having all the requirements on persistence.

    @guility@guilityАй бұрын
  • 10:23 Listen up thumbnail complainers! Your fate is in your hands! My money is on status quo because humans are predictable.

    @jajssblue@jajssblueАй бұрын
    • Jokes on them I use dearrow to change my thumbnails so I don't even have to complain as my thumbnails are never bad. So do something about it if you don't like the trends. Also are there that many complainers

      @time-alinge@time-alingeАй бұрын
    • ​@@time-alingeJust check out the LTT subreddit. It's often a cesspool of people who hate LTT for some reason. I feel like this topic is brought up constantly. Also see many comments on PCMR and Gamer's Nexus subreddits.

      @jajssblue@jajssblueАй бұрын
    • @@time-alingeSame. Also DeArrow user here. It also changes the video titles. I hate having to open a video to find out what it's about. Only to find out im not interested and close it. Honestly i could live with the thumbnails but i hate non descriptive/clickbait video titles. Imagine searching for a video on specific topic only to be greeted with clickbait titles.

      @Raivo_K@Raivo_KАй бұрын
    • @@Raivo_K For me it's the opposite. I used that extension before and it actually made me open each of the videos to find out what it's about. Because the thumbnail usually summarizes the whole video for me instead of a random frame from the video. Kinda counter productive you might say.

      @n_core@n_coreАй бұрын
  • 2:41 the writer forgot a 0 :D

    @FAB1150@FAB1150Ай бұрын
    • 50GBx12 = ?6TB oO , pretty basic fail.

      @benwu7980@benwu7980Ай бұрын
    • @@benwu7980it’s a typo…

      @inherentlyflawed@inherentlyflawedАй бұрын
    • Also read the pinned comment, it specifically mentions you

      @inherentlyflawed@inherentlyflawedАй бұрын
    • engagement farming /s

      @fish3977@fish3977Ай бұрын
    • ​@@inherentlyflawedThe original comment was 6 hour ago while the pinned comment came later so 🕳️

      @tanmaypanadi1414@tanmaypanadi1414Ай бұрын
  • One use case that actually is engineered for the pmem mode of Optane is Aerospike, and you generally only use Aerospike in very specific industries but boy when it’s the right tool for the job it’s killer over other nosql solutions

    @AndrewMuraco@AndrewMuracoАй бұрын
  • I'm sad that Optane is gone as their Xpoint drives with their insane latency and endurance makes them a really good OS drive and seems like no one else has achieved those I/O speeds since and the crazy new innovations they came up with are really cool too

    @latioseon7794@latioseon7794Ай бұрын
  • Imagine linus dropping the $150,000 server

    @Eli-zb2yj@Eli-zb2yjАй бұрын
    • It probably happened, they just didn't show it. Now, years later, it started working again mysteriously, so they made a video.

      @CanIHasThisName@CanIHasThisNameАй бұрын
    • it's solid state, it'll be fine

      @GameCyborgCh@GameCyborgChАй бұрын
    • @@GameCyborgCh Linus: Hold my beer

      @hubertnnn@hubertnnnАй бұрын
    • Him and the crew should get a couple bat's and go full office space on that server just for the giggles

      @79huddy@79huddyАй бұрын
  • I’m so glad the intros are back for good!

    @xHyperElectric@xHyperElectricАй бұрын
  • Since it showed up as an option ROM its likely a separate card that has that portion of the BIOS on it. Option ROMs are kinda like plugins but for your BIOS. Cards and periferals can supply an option ROM whenever they need to add functionality your BIOS doesn't have built in.

    @LCARSx32@LCARSx32Ай бұрын
  • Absolutely no one, Linus we were going to do spring cleaning, but we found my missing $150,00 server, now for our segway to our sponsor.

    @chasesidaway@chasesidawayАй бұрын
  • 2:40 Somehow I don't think 12 floatplane exclusives times 50GB = 6TB... more like 600GB

    @jeanotzubler2477@jeanotzubler2477Ай бұрын
    • stick says 512 gb on it

      @jperoutek@jperoutekАй бұрын
    • Later in the video it says 512GB per stick which equals the 6.144T there are talking about.

      @fallenone4108@fallenone4108Ай бұрын
    • @@fallenone4108 I think they goofed in the script and just claimed each floatplane exclusive is 500gb (500*12 would be 6tb which would fit the "fit 12 floatplane exclusives in system ram" statement) All while showing text on the screen claiming each fp exclusive is 50gb not 500gb. confusing to say the least, but surely a single fp high bitrate exclusive isnt 500gb? then again, never watched one so for all i know theyre 8hrs long.

      @swiit1@swiit1Ай бұрын
    • 12 x 512GiB Optane sticks + 12 x 32GiB DDR4 sticks. That's 6528GiB (or 6.375TiB, since 1024 GiB = 1TiB) of memory.

      @ElNeroDiablo@ElNeroDiabloАй бұрын
    • ​@@jperoutekI'm talking about the floatplane exclusives that he mentioned, not about the memory capacity

      @jeanotzubler2477@jeanotzubler2477Ай бұрын
  • Rookie numbers. I forgot my 500k Nasa Computer in my basement. Found it today👍

    @Air377.@Air377.Ай бұрын
  • If only you had demonstrated this tech right after receiving the hardware. LTT might have single-handedly saved Intel's Optane Division. /s

    @PrecludeLP@PrecludeLPАй бұрын
    • They are pretty irrelevant in the enterprise space. I can tell you as someone that worked in the data center.

      @MikVision@MikVisionАй бұрын
    • Bruh LTT is for gamers and noobs like me not professionals

      @supersuede91@supersuede91Ай бұрын
  • It'd be fun to see more videos like this about products and projects that for one reason or another just didn't pan out.

    @korumann@korumannАй бұрын
  • Died just when it would have got useful. LLMs and image generators need huge amounts of memory. To the point where it is semi common practice to just set a swap file on SSDs and just replace it every few months when it runs out of writes.

    @SinisterSlay1@SinisterSlay1Ай бұрын
    • That's pretty much why it died. People just resorted to using much cheaper storage as 'RAM'.

      @cartoonhead9222@cartoonhead9222Ай бұрын
    • @@cartoonhead9222 In other words, it was too expensive for what it does. The question is, was it so expensive to manufacture, or did intel just want too high of a margin.

      @hubertnnn@hubertnnnАй бұрын
    • ​@@hubertnnnit was actually a tricky tech to manufacture, I think the problem was it never got popular enough for it to hang around long enough to get the improvements that take lots of time. I wouldn't be surprised to see it come back once someone figures a hack to the manufacture that gets it a lot cheaper. It is still a cool tech, just too expensive and too niche to have taken off in a huge way like Intel and Micron wanted.

      @morosis82@morosis82Ай бұрын
  • Oh, I did that too last week!

    @Zenku763@Zenku763Ай бұрын
  • I not even disappointed this is late. I've been wanting a comprehensive breakdown of what happened with optane. ( I'm only to the Segue so far. Can't wait)

    @O43Z98@O43Z98Ай бұрын
  • This makes a lot of sense for use cases like APFS allow where the storage can be used as swap memory.

    @thekwoka4707@thekwoka4707Ай бұрын
  • 16:45 Sounds like Intel needs to "write off" that Optane inventory.

    @jajssblue@jajssblueАй бұрын
  • Loving the Firefly season 2 joke

    @stevewoods76@stevewoods76Ай бұрын
  • I got an Optane drive and found it quite good at holding my hard drives index data on my TrueNas box. Great at speeding up the hard drives slow random reads and writes. I wish intel stuck with Optane longer, felt like they did not give it a long enough chance to penetrate the market. Also opening it up would have helped a lot.

    @Dono0320@Dono0320Ай бұрын
  • I have a P5800x as my Windows OS drive. Snappiest computer experience I've ever had, can basically never kill the drive, and can literally open 100 programs at the same time with not a stutter. Optane is wild, and still worth it.

    @carlosdominguez3108@carlosdominguez3108Ай бұрын
  • 8:15 That call out to Emily.. I miss Emily, I hope She chooses to return in front of the cameras again sometime. She was such an amazing LTT video host and seeing these technical videos without her knowledge and input just isn't the same.

    @LycanWitch@LycanWitchАй бұрын
    • 2nd'd!

      @TheTom951guitar@TheTom951guitarАй бұрын
    • she's probably afraid of the more reactionary parts of the LTT audience. Which makes me extremely sad. We all miss Emily.

      @ExarchGaming@ExarchGamingАй бұрын
    • I will shout for joy if I see her in another video! Great host, knowledgable and humble. Overall great person.

      @3800fiero@3800fieroАй бұрын
    • ​@@ExarchGaming yeah this has been my worry as well. However, I have a feeling Emily isn't the type of person who is easily phased by bullying or any transphobe, as Emily to me has always seemed like the type of individual who's immune to bullying and above hate. Rather, I hope that the reason they've been off camera is is she is focusing on transitioning, such as waiting until she has some feminizing procedures performed before returning to the limelight (i.e. laser/electrolysis, or even surgical procedures like FFS and breast augmentation, not to mention, the subsequent recovery time), so that when they do decide to return in front of a camera, they can be and project the self-image they wish to share with the world :) Either case, I hope she returns, and her staying away isn't a permanent. As someone who is transgender, seeing someone prominent within the tech media space as Emily was, is so inspiring not only to me but likely countless others who too are trans, gender non-conforming, and allies within the tech sphere.

      @LycanWitch@LycanWitchАй бұрын
    • I miss seeing Emily on here, definitely a noticeable void in the LTT videos since her departure, I hope it isn't because of the loud minorities comments and hopefully she is just working on herself but seeing all the horrible comments on her announcement video I wouldn't blame her from not wanting to be on camera again. All the best to her either way she is an invaluable part of the team and I definitely miss seeing her present.

      @Smykeify@SmykeifyАй бұрын
  • 2:41 : 50GB x 12 = 6TB? Erm...is that why you always need new storage servers?

    @Scarlet_Soul@Scarlet_SoulАй бұрын
    • Later in the video it says 512GB per stick which equals the 6.144T there are talking about.

      @fallenone4108@fallenone4108Ай бұрын
    • @@fallenone4108 2:41 is them saying the size of their floatplane videos

      @Scarlet_Soul@Scarlet_SoulАй бұрын
  • I use 16 GB 2nd gen nvme optane SSDs as the boot drives in my single board computers. They work nicely. I also built an Optane thumb drive with a 2242 module and an enclosure.

    @r0galik@r0galikАй бұрын
  • He makes it a vision to new people to do crazy stuff and having that speed allowed people better understand the power and the idea it’s possible

    @kinetics1045@kinetics1045Ай бұрын
  • 3DXpoint was insane , it was and still is the best for your boot drive as the latency is so good.

    @andljoy@andljoyАй бұрын
    • sucked that they never made them for consumers. Small harddrive accelerators or enterprise grade (with a price tag to match). Sure there was the 900p but that retailed for 400 bucks for a 280 gig drive, when that came out you could have probably bought a 4TB NVME ssd for that price

      @GameCyborgCh@GameCyborgChАй бұрын
    • ​@@GameCyborgChConsidering you can buy a 4TB NvME for about 300 bucks now, that sounds about right

      @nocturn9x@nocturn9xАй бұрын
    • ​@@nocturn9xAnd they only made enterprise PCIe 4.0 Optane (P5800X) that even today costs a cool $800+ for mere 400GB model. It's very competitive with PCIe 4.0 NvME in performance, even in sequential performance where 905P gets destroyed but it's so expensive that last summer i could have bought nearly 16TB worth of PCIe 4.0 NAND for that money.

      @Raivo_K@Raivo_KАй бұрын
  • So annoying when I leave a revolutionary 150k worth of server in a warehouse for 3 years

    @iziro@iziroАй бұрын
    • Intel hasn’t made anything revolutionary in 15 years.

      @1armbiker@1armbikerАй бұрын
    • ​@@1armbiker optane absolutely was, and tbh still is, revolutionary -- even the best SCM today only comes to a close second to 2nd gen optane from 2020... they made a series of stupid business decisions all mentioned in the video.

      @GeekProdigyGuy@GeekProdigyGuyАй бұрын
    • ​@@1armbikerimagine being so stuck in fanboy land to cope this hard. Not trying to shit on AMD btw, their stuff is amazing. But Intel has done a lot of cool stuff too. They just sat on their laurels for too long in the consumer space

      @nocturn9x@nocturn9xАй бұрын
  • I mean, 905Ps are selling, they're often in the hot-items list for enterprise storage. If optane had been priced reasonably, and not been vendor locked, we'd probably all be using it by now, for root/boot, with nand for game libraries.

    @Ghennesph@GhennesphАй бұрын
  • Too soon hitting us with that Firefly reference there. Now all the misbehaving around LTT makes scene...... Ye are all Browncoats.... SHINY!!!

    @daviddrake4715@daviddrake4715Ай бұрын
  • 6:28 but it would be a tax write off

    @pawa-cu1dv@pawa-cu1dvАй бұрын
  • KZhead has what now? AB Testing thumbnails? Hold my beer

    @furaznl@furaznlАй бұрын
    • Yeah, that was just casually dropped in there and it's a huge deal that LTT/LMG are using it now.

      @samwalker7567@samwalker7567Ай бұрын
    • I was wondering why thumbnails keep changing every time I refresh the page.

      @hubertnnn@hubertnnnАй бұрын
    • ​@@samwalker7567 they've been using it for a while and have talked about it a fair bit.

      @morosis82@morosis82Ай бұрын
  • Optane was a technology that I always hoped would eventually come down in price and become common for consumer use. After Wendell from level1 showed how it affected operating system responsiveness in a video, I was hooked. I check every few months to see if the price of a 1.6tb p5800x come down, only to be disappointed to see that they still go for $3000 on Newegg. I feel like this will be a technology in 10 or 20 years that I will be able to get at a recycling center by luck and finally get to experience its greatness long after it’s obsolete. What a bumber

    @sloc_@sloc_Ай бұрын
  • 6:20 a dubious ROI? Nah, just write it off! 😅

    @ulator4820@ulator4820Ай бұрын
  • so optane requires normal ram? why not put both on a single DIMM and get benefits form both types?

    @johnb0815@johnb0815Ай бұрын
    • I think it requires a paired normal ram only in RAM mode. In HDD mode it does not need to be paired with RAM.

      @hubertnnn@hubertnnnАй бұрын
  • What a great 150k write off 👍

    @999Crazyy@999CrazyyАй бұрын
  • now with the closeout deals how about a video on how to set up and use optain for some home user situations? home server, gaming, NAS, and any other weird use situations along with how to set them up.

    @zacharyyearling3147@zacharyyearling314728 күн бұрын
  • 7:12 THANK YOU! I have been complaining about how motherboards in general still feel like the wild west. It’s insane that we still don’t just have a standardized plug for front IO or that menus are always so drastically different.

    @gimmickmusic8827@gimmickmusic8827Ай бұрын
  • It's a shame LTT killed Optane by ignoring Intel's last ditch effort to build hype for the product by sending $150,000 worth of hardware to a popular youtuber to showcase. Hope it was worth it Andy

    @Rehbet@RehbetАй бұрын
  • In a different timeline, Optane + 3D V-cache cannibalize DRAM entirely. With the combined capacity of V-cache and speed/latency of PCIe5 Optane, DRAM would be rendered unnecessary.

    @ChristianStout@ChristianStoutАй бұрын
    • There's some dark future where on-package HBM, 3D cache, and 3D X-point (optane) would make a ram monster. You could have 10s of MB of cache, a small pool of HBM to feed the iGPU, and then a big pool of optane storage that is basically both the SSD and main ram.

      @DigitalJedi@DigitalJediАй бұрын
    • ​@@DigitalJedithat sounds awesome tbh

      @nocturn9x@nocturn9xАй бұрын
    • @@DigitalJedi The latest Xeons now have HBM on package, so I bet that feature will trickle down to Core CPUs before the end of the decade.

      @ChristianStout@ChristianStoutАй бұрын
    • @ChristianStout We'll kind of see it later this year! Lunar Lake will have all of its lpddr5x on-package, but won't have any external additional channels.

      @DigitalJedi@DigitalJediАй бұрын
  • I’ve roasted you guys enough and Billet has had their day in the sun over on GN. The subtle nod to forgetting is hilarious.

    @scsextra@scsextraАй бұрын
  • 3:15 what also increases it's endurance greatly is to keep it offline in a closet

    @snooks5607@snooks5607Ай бұрын
  • THE RICER PC BAIT IN THE BEGINNING AAAAAAAAAA FINISH THE PC LINUS

    @nmweissm@nmweissmАй бұрын
  • Give it to Jeff at Craft Computing, he's been on a bit of a bender lately buying weird servers that no one else wants.

    @UntouchedWagons@UntouchedWagonsАй бұрын
    • Absolutely this!

      @nickloper2542@nickloper2542Ай бұрын
  • I had an Optane chip in my i7700k era PC, which did a pretty good job speeding up my (at the time) 2T hybrid Hard Drives. Sadly (or not depending on your view) its been gone for a couple of years now, as NVME drives got cheap enough at a high enough capacity to swap out the old 3.5" drives.

    @jaymorrison2419@jaymorrison2419Ай бұрын
  • Saw the pinned comment, reminds me of a time when I was browsing through a pile of IT return at my company, and there was a dev kit for Intel Denverton. Opened, but never removed from the packaging, it was just a black cooler master PC case

    @watercannonscollaboration2281@watercannonscollaboration2281Ай бұрын
  • That mainboard and chassis bending at 0:18 😵‍💫

    @chromeeh@chromeehАй бұрын
  • You can use the huge amount of memory to run the largest possible large language models.

    @thomashd9698@thomashd9698Ай бұрын
    • You think 6TB is enough for an LLM with trillions of parameters? Hah, you're funny.

      @nocturn9x@nocturn9xАй бұрын
    • ​@@nocturn9xRiiight 🤔

      @swcommander1661@swcommander1661Ай бұрын
  • Hi guys, as a vfx artist, would love to see some houdini simulations on these videos, Ocean or pyro sims will easily scale up to fill up memory (and compute) tasks at hand. and as someone who mainly uses off the shelf consumer hardware, would be lovely to see how high end servers would perform.

    @dtmgfx5184@dtmgfx5184Ай бұрын
  • Someone I know uses Optane in their desktop PC. When it was built about five and a half years ago, 1TB SSDs were still uncommon and expensive. It gets used as a storage cache so the spinning HDDs he has stores and retrieves data to and from the Optane module. It's really bizarre stuff. Neat but bizarre.

    @PashPaw@PashPaw29 күн бұрын
  • This server costs more than my entire college education.

    @iBridgee@iBridgeeАй бұрын
    • You got lucky, it's almost half the price of mine lol.

      @TheChemizzle@TheChemizzleАй бұрын
    • Wait, you guys pay for education? 😂

      @kaspersergej@kaspersergejАй бұрын
    • @@TheChemizzleyou got scammed then lol

      @avonbarksdale2506@avonbarksdale2506Ай бұрын
    • ​@avonbarksdale2506 Someone with 2 - going on 3 - degrees here, all college prices are a scam 🙄

      @MrScorpianwarrior@MrScorpianwarriorАй бұрын
    • My house

      @ohioplayer-bl9em@ohioplayer-bl9emАй бұрын
  • Very nice job! This was so good I broke up with my girlfriend, ghosted her, disowned my parents, and quit my job. I burned all my belongings.I soon got evicted for not paying rent, but had the cops force me out. I then became addicted to fentanyl. Now I watch this while tweakin.

    @Glenn938@Glenn938Ай бұрын
  • I'm honestly not even sure what I am going to do with the 1TB of ram in my newest server that I acquired for cheap. While the obligatory "Please send" would be fun, most people outside of large companies that could have bought it anyway wouldn't even be able to come up with proper use cases for a server of this caliber. Would make a fun project for a super low latency Minecraft (or other game with large maps to load) server. Chunks would load faster than people could traverse them.

    @shuuko_tenoh@shuuko_tenohАй бұрын
  • you can probably use MMAP with storage mode and get super high performance persistent storage for stuff like LLM inference with llama cpp

    @CrypticConsole@CrypticConsoleАй бұрын
  • Shout out to Emily for coming in clutch for the video and this amazing project.

    @evierivka402@evierivka402Ай бұрын
    • We miss you, Emily, and hope you're doing well. :-)

      @BravoCharleses@BravoCharlesesАй бұрын
    • Need to see some Emily vids again. They were always my favourite

      @stragen0013@stragen0013Ай бұрын
    • So glad to see someone else bringing Emily up. I miss seeing them in videos.

      @Jacob-my4fj@Jacob-my4fjАй бұрын
    • Emily was great, miss seeing them in videos, nice for Linus to shout them out!

      @mattboje6747@mattboje6747Ай бұрын
    • Based Emily

      @supersuede91@supersuede91Ай бұрын
  • Only Linus can spend $150,000 and forget it 😂😢😢

    @blue-obsidian@blue-obsidianАй бұрын
    • $1,000,000 1PB SSD server project?

      @Fitnessdickinmymouth@FitnessdickinmymouthАй бұрын
    • they were given a sample to review. he didnt buy it and they didnt want it back

      @C0mmanderX@C0mmanderXАй бұрын
  • I'm really liking the intro being back on the latest videos.

    @bgrossish@bgrossishАй бұрын
  • Linus' voice: It could change our thumbnail practices! Linus' face: It 100% won't, because we absolutely know what the testing will show

    @erlandjohansen7195@erlandjohansen719527 күн бұрын
  • Praise be to Emily nice job!!!

    @gregorypaulding7183@gregorypaulding7183Ай бұрын
  • 8:17 Ayy, Emily mention! Glad she's shill with y'all last time she want in a video a bunch of people were assholes and I'm glad they didn't scare her off. ❤❤

    @daniegamin@daniegaminАй бұрын
  • ive seen so many of those 16gb Optane sticks failing or causing issues with PC's and laptops. I used to keeps them and had about 30 at one point.

    @barnysgaming@barnysgamingАй бұрын
  • Funny that, I just rewatched the unboxing video yesterday and wondered where the 2nd part is.

    @grdprojekt@grdprojektАй бұрын
  • Is this you writing off Intel's write off?

    @SplurginSergeon@SplurginSergeonАй бұрын
  • 8:00 true enthusiasts go through every single setting in every sub menu. Just like they do with games, dram overclocks, their router or even a bios. Not going though the entire bios on something worth $150k is ridiculous. And I'm saying this as someone who has done over 5 dozen server builds since epyc gen 1

    @RadialSeeker113@RadialSeeker113Ай бұрын
    • Exactly this. This was the first thing i did when i got my fujitsu system.

      @julkkis666@julkkis666Ай бұрын
  • Man, I hate forgetting about my 150,000 server. Knowing I'm not the only one makes me less embarrassed, thx linus😘

    @excellent1713@excellent1713Ай бұрын
  • Dcpmm is really interesting now that compatible servers are on the used market. Would love to see a video about how that memory works for truenas caching

    @tassadarforaiur@tassadarforaiurАй бұрын
  • 10k views fell off

    @prodbymalek@prodbymalekАй бұрын
    • Malek it hasn’t even been a hour yet

      @acornexpresspro230@acornexpresspro230Ай бұрын
    • @@acornexpresspro230 joke

      @prodbymalek@prodbymalekАй бұрын
  • another Emily mention at 8:14 !! cant wait to see her in videos again if she chooses to!!

    @jamopopper@jamopopperАй бұрын
  • Love Linus! LOL great vid as always

    @stoneylonely6416@stoneylonely6416Ай бұрын
  • Emily lives!!!! Mentioned at 8:14. I hope things are going swell for them! Also, I think this might be dope for like a Redis cache but, I have a hard time coming up with better use cases.

    @ThatGamePerson@ThatGamePersonАй бұрын
    • I hope Emily can make a regular return to the screen soon but I understand why she might not want to.

      @shortboard_89@shortboard_89Ай бұрын
  • Yeah, those 16G nvme sticks are perfect for zfs write cache in your DYI NAS.

    @KidoKatsuragi@KidoKatsuragiАй бұрын
  • I would love a server like that for our indie game dev team. Would make a lot of tasks so much faster omg.

    @jeffclark5206@jeffclark5206Ай бұрын
  • hate when it happens. Last week I found my 200k server that fell behind by bookcase and I completely forgot about it. I know your pain, bro in all seriousness - yesterday YT recommended me to watch unboxing of this device, so I was really surprised to see part 2 today

    @DamianTheFirst@DamianTheFirstАй бұрын
  • Ahh, yes, casually forgetting about a $150.000 server, like forgetting about the $40 order from Amazon a week ago.

    @wildhogOW@wildhogOW29 күн бұрын
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