Only came across your channel lately Peter, and I must congratulate on some of the best, down to earth & real life techniques that are required in "normal" garages. Keep up the good work 👍
@doorhandles64 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Michael 🙏🙏 As you probably well know this trade can be tough & expensive, so anything we can do to make it that little bit easier is going to help. I do appreciate you time in watching & commenting. Chat soon 😉🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Hats off to you pete, old school confidence and smarts applied to new school problems, you are a skilled tradesman no doubt.
@glenohara6563 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the compliment Glen, but I’m only in the same boat as all the rest of us. Most techs try their best everyday 🙏🙏👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic tutorial Peter some great work around there. Brilliant idea on getting that stretchy belt on. Every time I do a timing belt I have that mental drumroll before I turn the KEY😂
@kevinpalmer7452 Жыл бұрын
That scary couple of seconds beforehand 😂😂😂 We all feel the same, at least it isn’t only me 😊😊
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Another good one Peter. I haven’t done one of these yet either so your saving me loads of time as I can just follow this when I do. Your right about a little anxiety when first turning the key mate 😆😆Thanks again
@trevormansfield6740 Жыл бұрын
It’s handy to see it being done beforehand, it takes a little bit of the unknown out of it. We all get that same feeling on first turn of the key 😂😂😂 Part of the job, thanks Trevor 🙏🙏👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
ANOTHER 5 STAR video of a job in real life - thanks for taking the time to video & posting
@colinblythe37109 ай бұрын
Thank you very much Colin, I really appreciate that 😉🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage32819 ай бұрын
Brilliant stuff Peter. That worked out great.
@michaelcoughlan1123 Жыл бұрын
It’s a very workable design in this engine type Michael which is unusual nowadays, so fair play to the designers 👏👏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
That way you put on the Water pump belt is outright genius
@shakalpb1164Ай бұрын
I can’t even remember how I done it but thank you very much 🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage3281Ай бұрын
That first turn of the key is always worrying for me too, even after turning over by hand first. I've never done one of those belts. Thanks for the video
@mechanicmatt871 Жыл бұрын
That moment when the heart beats a little bit fast Matt 😂😂 It is a well designed engine & handy enough to change, which is unusual nowadays 👍👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Thank you posting this AWESOME video, very helpful and you managed to get it done in 5 hours,which is amazing,,,i think it took me 6 hours to just get the Manifold off !! 🙂
@sollykhan23858 ай бұрын
Hey Solly, the time doesn’t really matter. If you got the job done you done brilliantly 💪💪💪 Well done mate 👏👏
@kennedysgarage32818 ай бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 Thank you for your encouraging words,i think you made it look far too easy, the serpentine belt had no adjuster,or the other water pump one either,the timing belt had lost about 12 teeth,by some miracle it didn't wreck the engine,managed to eventually get it all together,i think the same time as the elephants gestation period, was glad to see the back of it to be fair! these PSA engines are Horrible little contraptions,why people buy these monstrosities is beyond me. 🤔
@sollykhan23858 ай бұрын
@@sollykhan2385 I think most of the public don’t know how bad they can sometimes be until they go wrong 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@kennedysgarage32818 ай бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 i think the general Public need to be made fully aware of the 'inner workings' of their 'NEW BRAINCHILD INVENTIONS' before these awful car's hit the showrooms, to see what's in store a few years down the road, that way, manufactures had better get their act together, were the 1's who pay the price for them getting it wrong in their crappy designs. What was wrong with simple Ford cross flow designs of the 60's (Cortina 1600E etc) 20 mins to drop gearbox out, 30 mins to do full service, less than 30 mins max to drop engine out etc! not that we needed to do that often. now we spend ages scratching our heads to source special tools,and know how, just plain Barmy money making racket!🤔
@sollykhan23858 ай бұрын
Good video Peter, didn't look too bad but then you are used to doing that stuff and probably harder stuff too! Thanks for the video though, a nice watch.
@mikekinsella7575 Жыл бұрын
They are actually handy enough Mike, definitely not one to be too worried about doing 👍👍🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Great video. All other videos and manuals say you have to take the phasers off. Seems there is enough room without having to. My 1.2 208 is due a change in 20K miles.
@AlexM48810 ай бұрын
There are actually relatively easy to do, good luck with your one when doing it 🤞🤞🤞🤞👍
@kennedysgarage328110 ай бұрын
Fair play to ya man. You use every day tools to get the job done. Every other video I looked up on this lads were buying the timing tools. Sure it’s not feasible as I might never do another one. Great videos.
@markflynn79007 ай бұрын
I’m in the exact same boat, I could spend endless amounts of money on specialist tools if I wanted to. A little bit of common sense and the job is a gooden 😊😊
@kennedysgarage32817 ай бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 well I just finished that 3008. Thanks for the help!
@markflynn79007 ай бұрын
@@markflynn7900 well done Mark 💪💪
@kennedysgarage32816 ай бұрын
Wet things happen...intro is outstanding!!
@bastogne315 Жыл бұрын
That's what I thought it said in the thumbnail...
@bastogne315 Жыл бұрын
Well I suppose if you were a Wet timing belt and someone put in the wrong oil which made you break prematurely 😬😬 That is how you’d feel 😂😂😂 Maybe in the next life🙂 Thanks Bastogne 🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
You deserve more than than a thumbs up, that was the best talk through I’ve seen on KZhead. Well done. I’ve just brought the new Jeep Avenger 1.2 100hp turbo which I believe use’s the same engine. Question 1 when the new Jeep arrives I was thinking of installing a RaceChip increasing the hp 128, in your opinion is the little engine and gearbox strong enough to take the extra hp? Thank you.
@smarttask19 ай бұрын
Thank you so much & I delighted you enjoyed my video 🙏🙏🙏 Yes, absolutely. They are quite a good little engine & by all means chip it. A bit more power never does any harm 💪💪
@kennedysgarage32819 ай бұрын
Thanks once again. Best regards. Roger
@smarttask19 ай бұрын
@@smarttask1 🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage32819 ай бұрын
I have the same car mine has done 60k bought it when it had done 50k no indication that belt has been changed , can see the belt through the oil fill area ,mine looks ok , will keep an eye on it though , really good replacement video !!
@halloweenjack356510 ай бұрын
Thank you Jack hopefully it helps someday 🤞🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage328110 ай бұрын
Would advise you get it done. Ours is only 3 years old with just over 50k and we broke down with oil pressure fault due to the belt
@amac16574 ай бұрын
Good job , good vid, proper mechanic not a main dealer tech, im an old timer worked on every type of engine you could think of,, big strange that crank gear.
@thomascatford2627Күн бұрын
Should a shove come to a push and my back was against the wall. After watching your work. I would give it a go on my Pug 2008. Thanks for sharing. See you in the next one. 👍👍
@normanstephens5391 Жыл бұрын
Handy enough job Norman it would be no bother to you 💪💪💪🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Ive git one next week., 60k on the clock , oil light flashed on last nught on his way home , told him not to drive it , modern day shite Peter , well done on doing a video of the job 👏 👍
@mikeberry3043 ай бұрын
Hey Mike, the belt itself is actually a really handy job. I didn’t feel the need to remove the oil pan/sump in my case so don’t know how awkward that is, but hopefully not too bad. The best of luck with it Mike 🤞🤞
@kennedysgarage32813 ай бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281hi Peter., just ordered the locking kit for 20 quid off Flea Bay 👍
@mikeberry3043 ай бұрын
Very informative and helpful video mate 😊
@ballsack4321 Жыл бұрын
Actually a really nice design of a t belt to do, hopefully it might help you out someday 🤞🤞👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 😃 well, funny enough you really did help me today Peter and I'm very grateful for you taking the time to make that video. My mrs has a C1 with the Puretech engine, 80k miles on it, original belt. I finished it today and yes I was bricking it when I turned the key. But thankfully all is spot on. I did plan on changing the coolant but the bottom hose is pretty well stuck on. I'll come back to that part lol. So, thanks again mate, all good thanks to your assistance 👍
@ballsack4321 Жыл бұрын
@@ballsack4321 that is fantastic & very well done for doing it mate. That is why I do this stuff Thank you 🙏 🙏🙏👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Do u need to do oil change plus filter replaxement when doing the belt replacement?
@TheSyedabdrahman8 ай бұрын
I would recommend changing the oil and filter too. Also look at the belt condition as the break up and block the oil strainer 😉👍👍
@kennedysgarage32818 ай бұрын
Good job buddy not done one of these in a while used to do quite a few of them the turbo and non turbo versions only because the belt had broke up and blocked the strainer causing oil pressure issues i actually purchased the timing tool after the 5th one and never used it for another year bloody typical😅😅
@Gearhead90 Жыл бұрын
It is typical David 🙂 I’m the same I’d be struggling with a job only to realise after I’m finished that I had a special tool for it 😂😂😂
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
I recently fitted a sump on a vw up and had an utter nightmare getting at the bolts at the gearbox end struggled off and on with it then was clearing out my garage at home that night ready for moving house and Jesus what should I find but the exact sockets I needed which was infuriating lolll
@Gearhead90 Жыл бұрын
@@Gearhead90 Sod’s Law 😂😂😂😂
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
A tip for next time, we do these all the time at vauxhall (psa) pull the front engine mounting off the engine pulls forward
@peterarries7879 Жыл бұрын
To get in at the intake manifold bolts & additional room to remove it. Handy to know Peter thank you 🙏 🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Hey, quick question to your tip: which Engine mount do you mean? The one seen at 2:05 on the left? Or somewhere underneath? Thanks in advance!
@janm30053 ай бұрын
@janm3005 it's the front engine mounting which is on the driver's side
@peterarries78793 ай бұрын
maybe i have missed the comment but when the belt is changed, should the sump not also be removed to check oil strainer for particles from the previous belt and not just change out the belt ?
@ferenczsinko67707 ай бұрын
For me direction on every job is dictated by the evidence throughout the repair process & in this cause I feel that the belt hadn’t deteriorated enough to deem sump removal necessary. But each and every job can be different, so do what you feel is best 😉👍👍
@kennedysgarage32817 ай бұрын
If the belt is like the one you removed - gear side face with small missing parts, I strongly recommend to take a look at the oil pump strainer, cause this small parts of the belt will be there reducing the oil flow.
@quidelicia16 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@kennedysgarage32816 ай бұрын
Did you open the Oil Sump to clean the pump filter? With the belt on this state, certainly you have belt parts there.
@msfilho11 ай бұрын
No, I did not remove the sump. I didn’t see too much deterioration on the timing. Maybe the camera was showing something that was there 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@kennedysgarage328110 ай бұрын
Great job. Did you drop the sump and check the oil pick up pipe? I believe that they get clogged up with rubber particles from the degrading belt, resulting in low oil pressure and BOOM! one dead engine. I would not have bought mine if I knew about the wet belt beforehand.
@baylessnow7 ай бұрын
I didn’t drop the sump on this vehicle as I didn’t feel the timing was after degrading enough to deem it necessary. But it does happen so it is something you need to watch out for 😉🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage32817 ай бұрын
Great job.
@vodonnell1 Жыл бұрын
A handy little show & tell Vincent 🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Very well done. Thanks.
@ianaristotlethompson41863 ай бұрын
It is a relatively easy job & doesn’t take too long , especially compared to the dreaded Ford eco boost wet belt. Thank you 🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage32813 ай бұрын
Very helpful thanks a lot 😊
@eliasd.682611 ай бұрын
They are quite a nice job to do 😉👍👍
@kennedysgarage328111 ай бұрын
Thank this video. Has the timing belt been changed for this vehicle before? How many times has it changed? Or is it the first change?
@hertelden06663 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the owner didn’t know the service history, but the timing belt was in quite good condition for the mileage. So I would assume it had been replaced around 100,000kms 🤔🤔
@kennedysgarage32813 ай бұрын
Very good video. Unfortunately the PureTech engine has too many design flaws. Mine gave up via the belt and oil leaks at 105,000 km. Sad to see that customer services (Peugeot for me) are not at all up to scratch and find every excuse not to participate in the cost of repairs.
@louismallet386310 ай бұрын
It is a mine field out there, avoid warranty at all costs 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ Expensive keeping them going nowadays 😬😬👍
@kennedysgarage328110 ай бұрын
Good job mate :)
@lukaszteplik1922 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Lukasz 🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Hi I've just done a full rebuild as it also blew a piston 😢 and now I have a fule pressure sensor issue Did you suffer the same ( but you didn't do a ful engine rebuild )
@octymocty1329 ай бұрын
I did not. If you didn’t have a fuel pressure issues beforehand could it be a pipe fitted the wrong way round?? Fuel feed & return 🤔
@kennedysgarage32818 ай бұрын
❤tanks
@mauriziogiasan4411 Жыл бұрын
This was my first wet belt on a Peugeot but it is a whole lot easier than a Ford Eco boost 🙂 Thanks Maurizio 🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
I think it's fair to say your not a good mechanic, your a great mechanic. You made that look easy mate, not sure I like the idea of having wet belt though 😮 I've wedged a piece of wood between cam shaft pullies before 😅, can't get it wrong if you mark it all up first
@philphil3707 Жыл бұрын
Also, no better feeling after you turn the key fir the first time and it fires straight up
@philphil3707 Жыл бұрын
I’m not too fond of the wet belt design either, but I must say that I was impressed with this design. It is a great time saver compared to the Ford wet belts. And thank you very much for the compliment Phil, I’m smiling away here 😊😊😊👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
I must admit, it did look quite easy, not having to remove the engine mount, and no water pump to replace either, keep the video coming, there's a few good mechanics I watch on here, it's great seeing the different ways people adapt and overcome situations, helps us all learn new techniques 👍 I encourage you to watch : Chris Allan - "Professional struggler" : Salvage Rebuilds UK : O'Rileys Autos - Mobile Mechanic & DPF Cleaning All 3 channels put out great honest content like yourself, give them a watch if you get chance 👍
@philphil3707 Жыл бұрын
@@philphil3707 Chris Allen ‘ professional struggler’ is the only one I’m not subscribed to but some great content on O Reilly’s & Salvage builders. I must check him out & thanks for that 🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Please check him out, he's a fantastic much like yourself, but works on HGVS, he shows us all the real world struggles of being a mechanic, and the genuine errors which we all make, and thibgs we overlook, but also, is a good problem solver
@philphil3707 Жыл бұрын
There's no need to take the take the coolant lines and battery out, when's ive done a wet belt, i drop the engine mount and the inlet manifold will slide out no problem
@QAZ24539 ай бұрын
So other commenters have mentioned, but this was my first just the approach that I took 😉🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage32819 ай бұрын
dear. great review sure i had an opel crossland x 2020 1.2 turbo .i had same problems at first top up oil level message then engine fault then stop the car message until 77000km .psa engine in egypt decided to replace the engine in warranty by new engine they get it and now they replace it.does psa changed the old belt with new one differ in its mateial to prevent all that law pressure problem? i want to know .i read that they made a new version v3 . is that true thanks
@ahmedhossam61254 ай бұрын
They did upgrade the belt design but I believe that a timing belt & engine oil just shouldn’t be mixed. People might say different but the evidence is that it just doesn’t work. But with a new belt fitted it will last for years, also buy the OE oil from the dealership and keep the receipts for warranty if ever needed. The very best of luck with the new engine & happy new year 🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage32814 ай бұрын
you can loosen the engine mount for better access to the intake
@Nycorexti10 ай бұрын
Another commenter also said that & I does make sense, I’ll be doing it next time 😉🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage328110 ай бұрын
Sorry to ask a stupid question: is the crank locking pin actually holding the crank in place when you undo the crank bolt, and is it intended to be able to do that? (Or does it just provide a reference point?) Thanks.
@markandrewberry Жыл бұрын
Unless you leave it in gear and chock the brake pedal it's the only thing holding the crank in place, it's a 16mm steel pin so I guess it was designed to cope with the force needed to get the crank bolt out
@andywalwyn Жыл бұрын
Yes Mark, the flywheel locking pin is as Andy says for locking the crankshaft in place. It is actually a easy enough timing belt to do. Very straight forward 😉👍👍👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Excellent all round
@MartinJones-tl9kt Жыл бұрын
Thank you Martin, greatly appreciated 🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Cuantos km tiene ese motor y cuántos años.gracias
@pedrob28178 ай бұрын
2015 & 180,000 kms. This belt was actually in quite a good state
@kennedysgarage32817 ай бұрын
Good one pete. Much better than ford lol. I remember the the pugeot 106 and others with the same style flywheel tdc, locking pin . Pugeot really do like there there floating crank gear lol chers 🍺
@chrism5433 Жыл бұрын
A really good & easy to work with design, nice to see it being done before you have to tackle one 🤞👍👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 Pete the only issue is I'm in Canada now and we don't have pugeot or citron lol, 🍺 🍺🍺
@chrism5433 Жыл бұрын
@@chrism5433 only Ford for you so 😬😬 Great to have someone from Canada tuning in 😉🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
@@chrism5433 only Ford for you so 😬😬 Great to have someone from Canada tuning in 😉🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Great video, did one myself last week. Terrible engine design. Lot of work for simple belt change. Why did you cut the exhaust? In took it off from the turbo, just four bolts and a heatshield (and lambda out)
@rexpontiusful11 күн бұрын
I didn’t cut the exhaust on this Citroen but I’m assuming you might be talking about the Focus Ecoboost timing belt I had cut 🤔🤔 Where the exhaust joins around the steering rack area was welded prior and I didn’t want the challenge of that, so just made my life easier and cut then re-welded it nice and neatly. This business is a moving beast. The Citroen is a far easier job, so well done on your one 💪💪💪
@kennedysgarage32818 күн бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 ah yeah correct I was watching your ecoboost video and somehow my comment ended up under this video 🙈. Thanks mate
@rexpontiusful8 күн бұрын
@@rexpontiusful it a bit like car repair nowadays, things just don’t do what we expect 😬😬😬
@kennedysgarage32817 күн бұрын
Hi I have the same car throwing a code P000A Camshaft slow response bank 1 I’m gonna change the cam and VVT solenoid the timing is bang on belt is new double checked the timing with locking tools soo? What do you reckon thanks
@zukhrufhussain2271 Жыл бұрын
Sorry ‘cam sensor gonna change that
@zukhrufhussain2271 Жыл бұрын
I’m haven’t encountered it on this model but the strainers on the VVT solenoids can block quite often, well worth a look 👀👀
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Nice job mate did you tighten crank bolt with locking pin in engine ir did u take pin out then tighten it thanks
@Peter-sm8bj6 ай бұрын
I cannot remember, but it would most likely tighten the crank bolt by hand tool with the pin in place. Generally the flywheel is a good strong point to hold crankshafts
@kennedysgarage32816 ай бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 Well mate guess what the fault code relates to bad rail Pressure sensor i changed that car still Thr same starts idles and dies then i charged battery overnight it was dead same result then i decided last go at the car 🤣 i unplugged the front o2 sensor on the cat the car euns drives like a dream my question is can a bad 02 cause car to run rough and die Cause it drives great with that unolugged fron the electrical plug thanks
@Peter-sm8bj6 ай бұрын
@@Peter-sm8bj yes Peter, if the 02 sensor fail rich or lean it would run like a pig. Do you have a scantool ?? You should be able to look at what it is doing on live data 🤔🤔
@kennedysgarage32816 ай бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 I ordered a sensor mate as soon as i plug the catalytic converter 02 sensor back in can starts and hunts then dies I unplug it car drives perfect I have a autel scantool with live data but i have no clue what all the readings mean mate 👍
@Peter-sm8bj6 ай бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 Long fuel trim with it plugged in gives me a reading of 0.0 And map is 29.5 And spark adv is -14
@Peter-sm8bj6 ай бұрын
judging by the top end of that engine, it's had many many frequent oil changes :)
@timbo19751975 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it has quite a good service history & nothing is left on the long finger. I done this job around 4 weeks ago and the clutch failed only 2 weeks after ( release bearing went through the pressure plate 😬😬 ) Still you’d panic when that break down call comes 😂😂
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Most important clean olie filter in site
@kees14 ай бұрын
Have you ever come across a belt slipping a tooth on these engines, Citroen mechanic said this could be the fault on my c3 1.0. Still runs but slow acceleration until 2200 revs then picks up okay. No fault codes and have changed the cat
@dandan364610 ай бұрын
Hi Dan, I haven’t ever come across this but if your mechanic could look at Cam & Crank synchronisation PID on his scantool he should know pretty fast 🤞🤞
@kennedysgarage328110 ай бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 Thanks for the reply, will ask my mechanic to ask the Citroen mechanic(a mate of his) if he can look at it
@dandan364610 ай бұрын
wow great job and is this the genuine first belt? Because if I heard correctly it has 180000km which is too much for this belt thanks in advance cheers
@filipkrstevski5449 Жыл бұрын
I actually don’t know the history of this vehicle, but one of my colleagues serviced it and advised the owner that it needed a timing belt replacement. I was just the unlucky one to get the job. But you are correct it was in a good state of repair if it was the original, but possibly not 🤔🤔
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 thanks for you answer keep it up with the cgannel verry informative
@filipkrstevski5449 Жыл бұрын
@@filipkrstevski5449 thanks mate, I appreciate that 😉🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Hi peter. Have a couple of Customers with 208 3cylinder engines in them can you tell me please what's the actual service interval on those belts as I've yet touch one
@colmmccabe2998 Жыл бұрын
every 50 km says in my hand book
@wackey3455 Жыл бұрын
Hey Colm! Stellantis indicates that you should replace the belt every 6 years or every 100,000 km / 62137 miles. Usually this has to be done earlier, because the belt is too weak for that. First it was 10 years or 175,000 km / 108739 miles .
@nickpardon8620 Жыл бұрын
Shouldve taken sump off afterwards. These suffer from strainer restrictions from debris from old belt great to see the job done with relative ease
@justinsteel63605 ай бұрын
The timing belt in this case hadn’t deteriorated which was evidence enough for me to not feel I needed to remove the sump. But you are right it does quite often need to be done 👍 👍👍
@kennedysgarage32815 ай бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 wasnt meant as a criticism. Great job you did there.
@justinsteel63605 ай бұрын
@@justinsteel6360 it wasn’t taken as one, thank you for watching. Have a lovely Christmas & we will talk soon 🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage32814 ай бұрын
Jobs a goodun 👍 the original belt looked in good shape for the mileage but better to be safe than sorry. Have you ever done a timing belt on a vag cjzc engine? I’m on the fence about replacing it as the procedure says the camshaft timing angle has to be checked and adjusted if not in the tolerance which involves an expensive supa dupa kit and software but have seen people do them without?
@johndutton2895 Жыл бұрын
Yeah in our place a vw dealer you have to use the computer to time up the cam angle
@THEGREENBEAR1723 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t had the pleasure of doing one of those yet. But I suppose it is going to happen soon enough. Isn’t it awful the way the over complicate it and make experienced technicians be slightly scared of the job incase something goes wrong 😤😤
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Do any of ye know how much it costs in the dealerships??
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 my biggest concerns would be lumpy idle worse case or poorer fuel economy/increased emissions. Seen videos of them done without it and also seen videos of them done without it and in a dealership having to be adjusted because there running rough. The owner is phoning the dealers tomorrow to get a price so I will report back 👍 I’ve advised her to get the water pump/housing and toothed belt replaced also it’s quite a weird engine with it being gearbox end. The procedure is fascinating to watch but I always thought it was Renaults job to re-invent the wheel 🤔😂
@johndutton2895 Жыл бұрын
@@THEGREENBEAR1723 do you also recommend replacing the water pump/housing and belt at the same time? Although it’s on the other end
@johndutton2895 Жыл бұрын
Good luck with the belt, it's rolling into hot oil. We had a warranty but Stelantis doesn't give the warranty to it. Its unreliable.. Some have problems at 40k km's. Some at 80 and some at 120. Due to the books it says around 160k km's or so it needs to be replaced. All been done by the dealer.
@DzasterNL2 ай бұрын
Oil and rubber just don’t like each other 😂😂😂
@kennedysgarage32812 ай бұрын
Just put the whole car in the bin
@bEEBO17810 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@kennedysgarage328110 ай бұрын
please i want to know . psa recommended mobil psa 5w-30 oil is it the right one for my country egypt with its high tempreture summer
@ahmedhossam61254 ай бұрын
Off hand I don’t know the exact specifications of the oil in your model car but as mentioned I would buy it from the dealer to validate warranty 😉
@kennedysgarage32814 ай бұрын
have you seen the service bulletin on this issue
@scotspie501douglas7 Жыл бұрын
No, what does it say ?? Is it similar to the Ford eco boost one about the oil needing to be correct & the oil strainer getting blocked 🤷🏼♂️
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Can you please tell us at what mileage these faults occur? Turd time of t'asking
@TrailVapor10 ай бұрын
I show the mileage in the video 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ This vehicle has 182,000 kms, I recommend watching the whole of my videos to see the mileage’s. Hopefully this helps you 👍👍
@kennedysgarage328110 ай бұрын
Hello, is 1.6 puretech has wet belt or chain?
@Erkanalpalp3 ай бұрын
I’m not sure but if you remove the oil filler cap and look in you should be able to see a belt or chain 🤞🤞
@kennedysgarage32813 ай бұрын
Насколько надежен этот двигатель при хорошем обслуживании? Какой у него ресурс в милях или километрах?
@maximg99652 ай бұрын
Not too many people like any wet belt engines. But the belt is really easy to replace compared to others. So replace the belt relatively regularly and it should be a great little engine 😉👍👍
@kennedysgarage32812 ай бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 спасибо за ответ. Очень нравятся автомобили Пежо, Ситроен.
@maximg99652 ай бұрын
Ohhh man you're lucky that you didn't have to do the direct injection and turbo version off the 1.2 puretech, that is a nightmare without timing tools
@georgigeorgiev1300 Жыл бұрын
Nice to know that Georgi, I’ll be weary of those 😉👍👍👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
The one you cannot see the both camshafts with the rocker cover off. The tool is cheap from laser amazon couldn’t imagine trying without them there’s no point they clip in on end of cams pin in crank and rip it apart chuck it together no messing about trying to mark it up🤙
@liamfletcher68917 ай бұрын
Did u change? The oil.
@richardglover12003 ай бұрын
It was changed 5 days earlier on a service when we told him to do the timing belt. No oil related issues & I believe the belt hadn’t deteriorated enough to cause any further problems 😉👍👍👍
@kennedysgarage32813 ай бұрын
I’m ashamed to call myself an Engineer after seeing this wet belt design. The belt material (hydrogenated nitrile for chemical resistance, and glass filled nylon for added strength) is typically great in all oils, chemically very good! Temps good for 150c The problem is the surface finish, the rubber likes smooth surface finishes to be run on, and it doesn’t like metal shards being compressed into it!! I work in the oil and gas sector, and we have seen this occur in our own tools. Silly design.
@itsagoal18215 күн бұрын
I guess these things have to be tested on normal everyday items to prove the test over time. I’m doing a wet belt on a 2021 Mondeo next week, the Eco blue engine and Ford seem to have made it a lot easier to renew. Thank goodness 🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage328112 күн бұрын
Miss the 1.1/1/4 KFV/KFZ days lol...
@zaneclone5 ай бұрын
The good old days 😂😂😂
@kennedysgarage32815 ай бұрын
nice watch peter
@wackey3455 Жыл бұрын
Thank Paddy a little weekend entertainment & education all in one ☝️ 👍👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
185.000 for Puretech,not so bad.
8 ай бұрын
It may have been changed prior 🤔 possibly around 90 or 100k. Handy enough to change 😉👍👍
@kennedysgarage32818 ай бұрын
👌👌👌👌❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍
@seemanmanavan5 ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage32815 ай бұрын
Yep looks straight forward enough. Certainly better than ford. Who have gone back to a chain anyway on later version
@the_retired_mechanic Жыл бұрын
I did hear that Chris, it’s crazy make decisions & then having to change it because of it being such a bad design 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ Thanks mate 🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
@Kennedy’s garage i watched a KZhead video made by the company that were commissioned to design and make the wet belt for ford. They show in the video how they swell with age and the cause of the failure.
@the_retired_mechanic Жыл бұрын
@@the_retired_mechanic hmmm, that sounds like an interesting watch. I must do some searching 👍👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
ı watching from turkey.
@irfanmeric849718 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching sir from Ireland 🇮🇪 & hopefully my video helps you out 🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage328117 күн бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 yes it helped a lot thank you :)
@irfanmeric849716 күн бұрын
@@irfanmeric8497 🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage328115 күн бұрын
How many Miles/km?
@luich128810 ай бұрын
It has 181,000kms I show it in the video 👍👍
@kennedysgarage328110 ай бұрын
I missed one thing. I didnt see a oil change. And kleening the filter . Maybe i missed it .
@florisnr114 ай бұрын
This vehicle was serviced only 1 week earlier, when I recommended it got a timing belt. As for the oil strainer, I felt that the belt hadn’t degraded enough to deem it necessary to be cleaned. I might get to show it on the next one 🤞🤞 I’m at a Ford eco boost belt just today 😂😂
@kennedysgarage32814 ай бұрын
'savage idea', lol
@davesterl Жыл бұрын
Hey Davey, it is a brilliant idea. Compared to those bloody Eco Boosts 😬😬 It just makes the job so much easier 👍👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
you forgot the check the oil pump mate ;)
@crazydad9812 ай бұрын
Nope, every move I carry out is derived from evidence & i choose not to remove the sump due to the good condition of the belt 😉👍👍👍
@kennedysgarage32812 ай бұрын
Change oil when changing belt
@tinko9753 ай бұрын
It was done 3 days beforehand on a service when we recommended to replace the belt 😉👍👍👍
@kennedysgarage32813 ай бұрын
wow that belt is breaking up you will need to drop the sump and clean the strainer
@scotspie501douglas7 Жыл бұрын
Someone else mentioned that, I must look at the video again because from memory I thought the belt was in very good condition 🤔🤔 I normally would if I thought it was needed but I didn’t in this case, with no oil related issues 🤞🤞
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
if you need the service bulletin let me know and i,ll send the photos from my 1.2 wet belt scary reading as a mechanic
@scotspie501douglas7 Жыл бұрын
@@scotspie501douglas7 please, contact me on Kennedys garage.ie 🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 I,ll send you all the info it is shocking scary stuff where are you based
@scotspie501douglas7 Жыл бұрын
@@scotspie501douglas7 Southern Ireland & you ??
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Sump off, clean pick up
@johnnewbold32254 ай бұрын
Advisable in most cases 😉🙏🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage32814 ай бұрын
How is that down as a 8 hour job 😂 your filming and explaing and still got it done it half that time.
@beany198710 ай бұрын
🤷🏼♂️ I don’t do too much setting up, so filming doesn’t add too much time. 8 hours was just a guide time that the dealer said. The time may be smaller on Autodata or Alldata 🤔🤔🤔👍
@kennedysgarage32819 ай бұрын
Done shitloads of them on the transit ecoblu engines there infamous done a few engine rebuilds and full exchanges due to total failure of the belt not a clever idea tbh
@Gearhead90 Жыл бұрын
Probably were a good idea in theory but most people would just use the incorrect oils and nearly cause the problem, just by not knowing 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Citeron had to replace the engine on 24000 miles C4 cactus rip curl even service on Feb then April new engine? Nearly five grand. Free? Common fault on pure tech engine.
@sejautie11 ай бұрын
These kind of failures must be costing manufacturers some money 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@kennedysgarage328111 ай бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 because it was a defect in timing belt the engine are great but I asked the citeron garage is there a defect not on your car? But there was so it was replaced free even when it was serviced?
@sejautie11 ай бұрын
Dealers do it in an hour and take 7 hours to wash up afterwards.
@bastogne315 Жыл бұрын
Probably 😂😂😂
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
2.7 hrs you get to do it 😬
@macalfc1019 Жыл бұрын
@@macalfc1019 it is probably do able in that time, once you move fast 🙂😂😂😂
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
What I dumb design for that belt to be removed
@ToyotatechDK Жыл бұрын
I actually thought it brilliant, it is some time saver for anyone doing it 🤷🏼♂️👍👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
I am a state-certified automotive mechatronics technician. Such a senseless construction: a timing belt that runs in the engine oil. The bill of exchange costs about 2,500 €. A Finn blew up his Tesla. That's what you should have with such cars, these such a timing belt in an oil bath 🙈😡😡😡
@Dieselschlucker13123 ай бұрын
On these PSA engines it is a relatively easy job compared to the awful 1.0 Ford eco boost engines. These one take around as long as a normal belt to replace, but the Ford one could take up to 12 hours. That is a real pain in comparison, but you are correct whoever thought up of this belt system should be fired 🤷🏼♂️😂😂😂 Thanks mate 🙏🙏
@kennedysgarage32813 ай бұрын
Motor code please
@catalinpupaza1565 Жыл бұрын
HMZ (EB2F) this is what Autodata tells me when I looked it up 😉👍👍👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
looking at the state of that belt you forgot a RELY important job. clean up the oil pickup in the oil sump. that is guarantied to be clogged.
@grapsorz Жыл бұрын
The belt on this was unusually good, with not deterioration. What did you see that I didn’t ??
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 the surface on the top. it look's just as it do when it shed the first layer. not the tooth side. the top side.
@grapsorz Жыл бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 this one is "worse" as this thing is to the point that the oil lamp is on. pmmonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/OESAA-Hub-Fig-3-21.jpg
@grapsorz Жыл бұрын
My belt is deteriorating and the garage said they'll empty the oil sump, but what else could potentially be damaged from the belt deteriorating? I want to check that they've looked at everything before driving it away to avoid any future issues
@lewdar_ Жыл бұрын
@@lewdar_ the problem is that you will be running with low oil pressure for a logn time before the light blinks/come on. this also damage the oil pump and can damage the vacuum pump if your car have one. and the low oil pressere will damage the bearings, pistons etc. this will up the oil consumption as things start to were down.
@grapsorz Жыл бұрын
If only the ecoboom was as straightforward the 1.2 turbo in these slighly more work but still easier than ford
@dodgydave484110 ай бұрын
I have heard that but this was my first one of these and I must say a brilliant design. Well done PSA 👏👏👏
@kennedysgarage328110 ай бұрын
Wet timing belts, what a stupid idea, should only ever be chains that are oiled, not belts
@addzw7195 Жыл бұрын
I not a lover of the wet belt design either. But all we can do at this point is try to help avoid them breaking 😬😬👍👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Aye very true there, just wish they designed them better so that they don't flake off and fall into the sump pan and clog up the oil pickup strainer
@addzw7195 Жыл бұрын
@@addzw7195 I believe it is the wrong or incorrect oils that cause them to degrade prematurely 🤷🏼♂️👍👍
@kennedysgarage3281 Жыл бұрын
Never ever buy a car with this crappy hupzenflutzen gay 3 cilinder engine ! DEMAND a 4 cilinder car with no turbo and no direct injection.
@bigliftm3 ай бұрын
Very true, nothing runs quite as sweet as an older 4 cylinder engine 😂😂😂
@kennedysgarage32813 ай бұрын
At what mileage should it be replaced.
@hayzee442911 ай бұрын
It is recommended to be replaced at 165,000 but has a whole load of red warnings about premature failure 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ Better to do it earlier rather than later 😉👍👍
@kennedysgarage328111 ай бұрын
How much something like this will cost us in England?? Dose anyone know
@Smilewithme0883 ай бұрын
I’d hazard a guess at around 5 or 6 hundred pounds 🤔🤔
@kennedysgarage32813 ай бұрын
Interesting Pete! I have a Fiesta ‘S’ Ecoboost 1.0(Australia) mine has 97,000Kms on the odo.Not due until 240,000Kms or 10 years(2025) not sure when I will get it replaced.Always get my oil changed @ least(or try) twice a year.Oil & filters are cheap, a blown motor is not.What is your experience on longevity of these little 1.0 Ecoboost motors?Cheer.👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🦘🦘🦘
@hackney710611 ай бұрын
The seem to be failing very prematurely, so much so that they call them the ecoboom engine. Their was 140,000kms on the one I done & it had signs of bad deterioration.
@kennedysgarage328111 ай бұрын
@@kennedysgarage3281 doubt mine will ever get to 140,000kms! It is only a runabout car, not our main vehicle.Maybe there is ‘hope’ for mine yet!.Thx for the feedback Pete.👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🦘🦘🦘🦘
Only came across your channel lately Peter, and I must congratulate on some of the best, down to earth & real life techniques that are required in "normal" garages. Keep up the good work 👍
Thank you very much Michael 🙏🙏 As you probably well know this trade can be tough & expensive, so anything we can do to make it that little bit easier is going to help. I do appreciate you time in watching & commenting. Chat soon 😉🙏🙏🙏
Hats off to you pete, old school confidence and smarts applied to new school problems, you are a skilled tradesman no doubt.
Thank you for the compliment Glen, but I’m only in the same boat as all the rest of us. Most techs try their best everyday 🙏🙏👍
Another fantastic tutorial Peter some great work around there. Brilliant idea on getting that stretchy belt on. Every time I do a timing belt I have that mental drumroll before I turn the KEY😂
That scary couple of seconds beforehand 😂😂😂 We all feel the same, at least it isn’t only me 😊😊
Another good one Peter. I haven’t done one of these yet either so your saving me loads of time as I can just follow this when I do. Your right about a little anxiety when first turning the key mate 😆😆Thanks again
It’s handy to see it being done beforehand, it takes a little bit of the unknown out of it. We all get that same feeling on first turn of the key 😂😂😂 Part of the job, thanks Trevor 🙏🙏👍
ANOTHER 5 STAR video of a job in real life - thanks for taking the time to video & posting
Thank you very much Colin, I really appreciate that 😉🙏🙏🙏
Brilliant stuff Peter. That worked out great.
It’s a very workable design in this engine type Michael which is unusual nowadays, so fair play to the designers 👏👏
That way you put on the Water pump belt is outright genius
I can’t even remember how I done it but thank you very much 🙏🙏🙏
That first turn of the key is always worrying for me too, even after turning over by hand first. I've never done one of those belts. Thanks for the video
That moment when the heart beats a little bit fast Matt 😂😂 It is a well designed engine & handy enough to change, which is unusual nowadays 👍👍
Thank you posting this AWESOME video, very helpful and you managed to get it done in 5 hours,which is amazing,,,i think it took me 6 hours to just get the Manifold off !! 🙂
Hey Solly, the time doesn’t really matter. If you got the job done you done brilliantly 💪💪💪 Well done mate 👏👏
@@kennedysgarage3281 Thank you for your encouraging words,i think you made it look far too easy, the serpentine belt had no adjuster,or the other water pump one either,the timing belt had lost about 12 teeth,by some miracle it didn't wreck the engine,managed to eventually get it all together,i think the same time as the elephants gestation period, was glad to see the back of it to be fair! these PSA engines are Horrible little contraptions,why people buy these monstrosities is beyond me. 🤔
@@sollykhan2385 I think most of the public don’t know how bad they can sometimes be until they go wrong 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@@kennedysgarage3281 i think the general Public need to be made fully aware of the 'inner workings' of their 'NEW BRAINCHILD INVENTIONS' before these awful car's hit the showrooms, to see what's in store a few years down the road, that way, manufactures had better get their act together, were the 1's who pay the price for them getting it wrong in their crappy designs. What was wrong with simple Ford cross flow designs of the 60's (Cortina 1600E etc) 20 mins to drop gearbox out, 30 mins to do full service, less than 30 mins max to drop engine out etc! not that we needed to do that often. now we spend ages scratching our heads to source special tools,and know how, just plain Barmy money making racket!🤔
Good video Peter, didn't look too bad but then you are used to doing that stuff and probably harder stuff too! Thanks for the video though, a nice watch.
They are actually handy enough Mike, definitely not one to be too worried about doing 👍👍🙏
Great video. All other videos and manuals say you have to take the phasers off. Seems there is enough room without having to. My 1.2 208 is due a change in 20K miles.
There are actually relatively easy to do, good luck with your one when doing it 🤞🤞🤞🤞👍
Fair play to ya man. You use every day tools to get the job done. Every other video I looked up on this lads were buying the timing tools. Sure it’s not feasible as I might never do another one. Great videos.
I’m in the exact same boat, I could spend endless amounts of money on specialist tools if I wanted to. A little bit of common sense and the job is a gooden 😊😊
@@kennedysgarage3281 well I just finished that 3008. Thanks for the help!
@@markflynn7900 well done Mark 💪💪
Wet things happen...intro is outstanding!!
That's what I thought it said in the thumbnail...
Well I suppose if you were a Wet timing belt and someone put in the wrong oil which made you break prematurely 😬😬 That is how you’d feel 😂😂😂 Maybe in the next life🙂 Thanks Bastogne 🙏🙏
You deserve more than than a thumbs up, that was the best talk through I’ve seen on KZhead. Well done. I’ve just brought the new Jeep Avenger 1.2 100hp turbo which I believe use’s the same engine. Question 1 when the new Jeep arrives I was thinking of installing a RaceChip increasing the hp 128, in your opinion is the little engine and gearbox strong enough to take the extra hp? Thank you.
Thank you so much & I delighted you enjoyed my video 🙏🙏🙏 Yes, absolutely. They are quite a good little engine & by all means chip it. A bit more power never does any harm 💪💪
Thanks once again. Best regards. Roger
@@smarttask1 🙏🙏
I have the same car mine has done 60k bought it when it had done 50k no indication that belt has been changed , can see the belt through the oil fill area ,mine looks ok , will keep an eye on it though , really good replacement video !!
Thank you Jack hopefully it helps someday 🤞🙏🙏🙏
Would advise you get it done. Ours is only 3 years old with just over 50k and we broke down with oil pressure fault due to the belt
Good job , good vid, proper mechanic not a main dealer tech, im an old timer worked on every type of engine you could think of,, big strange that crank gear.
Should a shove come to a push and my back was against the wall. After watching your work. I would give it a go on my Pug 2008. Thanks for sharing. See you in the next one. 👍👍
Handy enough job Norman it would be no bother to you 💪💪💪🙏
Ive git one next week., 60k on the clock , oil light flashed on last nught on his way home , told him not to drive it , modern day shite Peter , well done on doing a video of the job 👏 👍
Hey Mike, the belt itself is actually a really handy job. I didn’t feel the need to remove the oil pan/sump in my case so don’t know how awkward that is, but hopefully not too bad. The best of luck with it Mike 🤞🤞
@@kennedysgarage3281hi Peter., just ordered the locking kit for 20 quid off Flea Bay 👍
Very informative and helpful video mate 😊
Actually a really nice design of a t belt to do, hopefully it might help you out someday 🤞🤞👍
@@kennedysgarage3281 😃 well, funny enough you really did help me today Peter and I'm very grateful for you taking the time to make that video. My mrs has a C1 with the Puretech engine, 80k miles on it, original belt. I finished it today and yes I was bricking it when I turned the key. But thankfully all is spot on. I did plan on changing the coolant but the bottom hose is pretty well stuck on. I'll come back to that part lol. So, thanks again mate, all good thanks to your assistance 👍
@@ballsack4321 that is fantastic & very well done for doing it mate. That is why I do this stuff Thank you 🙏 🙏🙏👍
Do u need to do oil change plus filter replaxement when doing the belt replacement?
I would recommend changing the oil and filter too. Also look at the belt condition as the break up and block the oil strainer 😉👍👍
Good job buddy not done one of these in a while used to do quite a few of them the turbo and non turbo versions only because the belt had broke up and blocked the strainer causing oil pressure issues i actually purchased the timing tool after the 5th one and never used it for another year bloody typical😅😅
It is typical David 🙂 I’m the same I’d be struggling with a job only to realise after I’m finished that I had a special tool for it 😂😂😂
I recently fitted a sump on a vw up and had an utter nightmare getting at the bolts at the gearbox end struggled off and on with it then was clearing out my garage at home that night ready for moving house and Jesus what should I find but the exact sockets I needed which was infuriating lolll
@@Gearhead90 Sod’s Law 😂😂😂😂
A tip for next time, we do these all the time at vauxhall (psa) pull the front engine mounting off the engine pulls forward
To get in at the intake manifold bolts & additional room to remove it. Handy to know Peter thank you 🙏 🙏
Hey, quick question to your tip: which Engine mount do you mean? The one seen at 2:05 on the left? Or somewhere underneath? Thanks in advance!
@janm3005 it's the front engine mounting which is on the driver's side
maybe i have missed the comment but when the belt is changed, should the sump not also be removed to check oil strainer for particles from the previous belt and not just change out the belt ?
For me direction on every job is dictated by the evidence throughout the repair process & in this cause I feel that the belt hadn’t deteriorated enough to deem sump removal necessary. But each and every job can be different, so do what you feel is best 😉👍👍
If the belt is like the one you removed - gear side face with small missing parts, I strongly recommend to take a look at the oil pump strainer, cause this small parts of the belt will be there reducing the oil flow.
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Did you open the Oil Sump to clean the pump filter? With the belt on this state, certainly you have belt parts there.
No, I did not remove the sump. I didn’t see too much deterioration on the timing. Maybe the camera was showing something that was there 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Great job. Did you drop the sump and check the oil pick up pipe? I believe that they get clogged up with rubber particles from the degrading belt, resulting in low oil pressure and BOOM! one dead engine. I would not have bought mine if I knew about the wet belt beforehand.
I didn’t drop the sump on this vehicle as I didn’t feel the timing was after degrading enough to deem it necessary. But it does happen so it is something you need to watch out for 😉🙏🙏
Great job.
A handy little show & tell Vincent 🙏🙏
Very well done. Thanks.
It is a relatively easy job & doesn’t take too long , especially compared to the dreaded Ford eco boost wet belt. Thank you 🙏🙏
Very helpful thanks a lot 😊
They are quite a nice job to do 😉👍👍
Thank this video. Has the timing belt been changed for this vehicle before? How many times has it changed? Or is it the first change?
Unfortunately the owner didn’t know the service history, but the timing belt was in quite good condition for the mileage. So I would assume it had been replaced around 100,000kms 🤔🤔
Very good video. Unfortunately the PureTech engine has too many design flaws. Mine gave up via the belt and oil leaks at 105,000 km. Sad to see that customer services (Peugeot for me) are not at all up to scratch and find every excuse not to participate in the cost of repairs.
It is a mine field out there, avoid warranty at all costs 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ Expensive keeping them going nowadays 😬😬👍
Good job mate :)
Thank you so much Lukasz 🙏🙏🙏
Hi I've just done a full rebuild as it also blew a piston 😢 and now I have a fule pressure sensor issue Did you suffer the same ( but you didn't do a ful engine rebuild )
I did not. If you didn’t have a fuel pressure issues beforehand could it be a pipe fitted the wrong way round?? Fuel feed & return 🤔
❤tanks
This was my first wet belt on a Peugeot but it is a whole lot easier than a Ford Eco boost 🙂 Thanks Maurizio 🙏🙏
I think it's fair to say your not a good mechanic, your a great mechanic. You made that look easy mate, not sure I like the idea of having wet belt though 😮 I've wedged a piece of wood between cam shaft pullies before 😅, can't get it wrong if you mark it all up first
Also, no better feeling after you turn the key fir the first time and it fires straight up
I’m not too fond of the wet belt design either, but I must say that I was impressed with this design. It is a great time saver compared to the Ford wet belts. And thank you very much for the compliment Phil, I’m smiling away here 😊😊😊👍
I must admit, it did look quite easy, not having to remove the engine mount, and no water pump to replace either, keep the video coming, there's a few good mechanics I watch on here, it's great seeing the different ways people adapt and overcome situations, helps us all learn new techniques 👍 I encourage you to watch : Chris Allan - "Professional struggler" : Salvage Rebuilds UK : O'Rileys Autos - Mobile Mechanic & DPF Cleaning All 3 channels put out great honest content like yourself, give them a watch if you get chance 👍
@@philphil3707 Chris Allen ‘ professional struggler’ is the only one I’m not subscribed to but some great content on O Reilly’s & Salvage builders. I must check him out & thanks for that 🙏🙏🙏
Please check him out, he's a fantastic much like yourself, but works on HGVS, he shows us all the real world struggles of being a mechanic, and the genuine errors which we all make, and thibgs we overlook, but also, is a good problem solver
There's no need to take the take the coolant lines and battery out, when's ive done a wet belt, i drop the engine mount and the inlet manifold will slide out no problem
So other commenters have mentioned, but this was my first just the approach that I took 😉🙏🙏🙏
dear. great review sure i had an opel crossland x 2020 1.2 turbo .i had same problems at first top up oil level message then engine fault then stop the car message until 77000km .psa engine in egypt decided to replace the engine in warranty by new engine they get it and now they replace it.does psa changed the old belt with new one differ in its mateial to prevent all that law pressure problem? i want to know .i read that they made a new version v3 . is that true thanks
They did upgrade the belt design but I believe that a timing belt & engine oil just shouldn’t be mixed. People might say different but the evidence is that it just doesn’t work. But with a new belt fitted it will last for years, also buy the OE oil from the dealership and keep the receipts for warranty if ever needed. The very best of luck with the new engine & happy new year 🙏🙏🙏
you can loosen the engine mount for better access to the intake
Another commenter also said that & I does make sense, I’ll be doing it next time 😉🙏🙏🙏
Sorry to ask a stupid question: is the crank locking pin actually holding the crank in place when you undo the crank bolt, and is it intended to be able to do that? (Or does it just provide a reference point?) Thanks.
Unless you leave it in gear and chock the brake pedal it's the only thing holding the crank in place, it's a 16mm steel pin so I guess it was designed to cope with the force needed to get the crank bolt out
Yes Mark, the flywheel locking pin is as Andy says for locking the crankshaft in place. It is actually a easy enough timing belt to do. Very straight forward 😉👍👍👍
Excellent all round
Thank you Martin, greatly appreciated 🙏🙏
Cuantos km tiene ese motor y cuántos años.gracias
2015 & 180,000 kms. This belt was actually in quite a good state
Good one pete. Much better than ford lol. I remember the the pugeot 106 and others with the same style flywheel tdc, locking pin . Pugeot really do like there there floating crank gear lol chers 🍺
A really good & easy to work with design, nice to see it being done before you have to tackle one 🤞👍👍
@@kennedysgarage3281 Pete the only issue is I'm in Canada now and we don't have pugeot or citron lol, 🍺 🍺🍺
@@chrism5433 only Ford for you so 😬😬 Great to have someone from Canada tuning in 😉🙏🙏🙏
@@chrism5433 only Ford for you so 😬😬 Great to have someone from Canada tuning in 😉🙏🙏🙏
Great video, did one myself last week. Terrible engine design. Lot of work for simple belt change. Why did you cut the exhaust? In took it off from the turbo, just four bolts and a heatshield (and lambda out)
I didn’t cut the exhaust on this Citroen but I’m assuming you might be talking about the Focus Ecoboost timing belt I had cut 🤔🤔 Where the exhaust joins around the steering rack area was welded prior and I didn’t want the challenge of that, so just made my life easier and cut then re-welded it nice and neatly. This business is a moving beast. The Citroen is a far easier job, so well done on your one 💪💪💪
@@kennedysgarage3281 ah yeah correct I was watching your ecoboost video and somehow my comment ended up under this video 🙈. Thanks mate
@@rexpontiusful it a bit like car repair nowadays, things just don’t do what we expect 😬😬😬
Hi I have the same car throwing a code P000A Camshaft slow response bank 1 I’m gonna change the cam and VVT solenoid the timing is bang on belt is new double checked the timing with locking tools soo? What do you reckon thanks
Sorry ‘cam sensor gonna change that
I’m haven’t encountered it on this model but the strainers on the VVT solenoids can block quite often, well worth a look 👀👀
Nice job mate did you tighten crank bolt with locking pin in engine ir did u take pin out then tighten it thanks
I cannot remember, but it would most likely tighten the crank bolt by hand tool with the pin in place. Generally the flywheel is a good strong point to hold crankshafts
@@kennedysgarage3281 Well mate guess what the fault code relates to bad rail Pressure sensor i changed that car still Thr same starts idles and dies then i charged battery overnight it was dead same result then i decided last go at the car 🤣 i unplugged the front o2 sensor on the cat the car euns drives like a dream my question is can a bad 02 cause car to run rough and die Cause it drives great with that unolugged fron the electrical plug thanks
@@Peter-sm8bj yes Peter, if the 02 sensor fail rich or lean it would run like a pig. Do you have a scantool ?? You should be able to look at what it is doing on live data 🤔🤔
@@kennedysgarage3281 I ordered a sensor mate as soon as i plug the catalytic converter 02 sensor back in can starts and hunts then dies I unplug it car drives perfect I have a autel scantool with live data but i have no clue what all the readings mean mate 👍
@@kennedysgarage3281 Long fuel trim with it plugged in gives me a reading of 0.0 And map is 29.5 And spark adv is -14
judging by the top end of that engine, it's had many many frequent oil changes :)
Yes, it has quite a good service history & nothing is left on the long finger. I done this job around 4 weeks ago and the clutch failed only 2 weeks after ( release bearing went through the pressure plate 😬😬 ) Still you’d panic when that break down call comes 😂😂
Most important clean olie filter in site
Have you ever come across a belt slipping a tooth on these engines, Citroen mechanic said this could be the fault on my c3 1.0. Still runs but slow acceleration until 2200 revs then picks up okay. No fault codes and have changed the cat
Hi Dan, I haven’t ever come across this but if your mechanic could look at Cam & Crank synchronisation PID on his scantool he should know pretty fast 🤞🤞
@@kennedysgarage3281 Thanks for the reply, will ask my mechanic to ask the Citroen mechanic(a mate of his) if he can look at it
wow great job and is this the genuine first belt? Because if I heard correctly it has 180000km which is too much for this belt thanks in advance cheers
I actually don’t know the history of this vehicle, but one of my colleagues serviced it and advised the owner that it needed a timing belt replacement. I was just the unlucky one to get the job. But you are correct it was in a good state of repair if it was the original, but possibly not 🤔🤔
@@kennedysgarage3281 thanks for you answer keep it up with the cgannel verry informative
@@filipkrstevski5449 thanks mate, I appreciate that 😉🙏🙏🙏
Hi peter. Have a couple of Customers with 208 3cylinder engines in them can you tell me please what's the actual service interval on those belts as I've yet touch one
every 50 km says in my hand book
Hey Colm! Stellantis indicates that you should replace the belt every 6 years or every 100,000 km / 62137 miles. Usually this has to be done earlier, because the belt is too weak for that. First it was 10 years or 175,000 km / 108739 miles .
Shouldve taken sump off afterwards. These suffer from strainer restrictions from debris from old belt great to see the job done with relative ease
The timing belt in this case hadn’t deteriorated which was evidence enough for me to not feel I needed to remove the sump. But you are right it does quite often need to be done 👍 👍👍
@@kennedysgarage3281 wasnt meant as a criticism. Great job you did there.
@@justinsteel6360 it wasn’t taken as one, thank you for watching. Have a lovely Christmas & we will talk soon 🙏🙏
Jobs a goodun 👍 the original belt looked in good shape for the mileage but better to be safe than sorry. Have you ever done a timing belt on a vag cjzc engine? I’m on the fence about replacing it as the procedure says the camshaft timing angle has to be checked and adjusted if not in the tolerance which involves an expensive supa dupa kit and software but have seen people do them without?
Yeah in our place a vw dealer you have to use the computer to time up the cam angle
I haven’t had the pleasure of doing one of those yet. But I suppose it is going to happen soon enough. Isn’t it awful the way the over complicate it and make experienced technicians be slightly scared of the job incase something goes wrong 😤😤
Do any of ye know how much it costs in the dealerships??
@@kennedysgarage3281 my biggest concerns would be lumpy idle worse case or poorer fuel economy/increased emissions. Seen videos of them done without it and also seen videos of them done without it and in a dealership having to be adjusted because there running rough. The owner is phoning the dealers tomorrow to get a price so I will report back 👍 I’ve advised her to get the water pump/housing and toothed belt replaced also it’s quite a weird engine with it being gearbox end. The procedure is fascinating to watch but I always thought it was Renaults job to re-invent the wheel 🤔😂
@@THEGREENBEAR1723 do you also recommend replacing the water pump/housing and belt at the same time? Although it’s on the other end
Good luck with the belt, it's rolling into hot oil. We had a warranty but Stelantis doesn't give the warranty to it. Its unreliable.. Some have problems at 40k km's. Some at 80 and some at 120. Due to the books it says around 160k km's or so it needs to be replaced. All been done by the dealer.
Oil and rubber just don’t like each other 😂😂😂
Just put the whole car in the bin
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please i want to know . psa recommended mobil psa 5w-30 oil is it the right one for my country egypt with its high tempreture summer
Off hand I don’t know the exact specifications of the oil in your model car but as mentioned I would buy it from the dealer to validate warranty 😉
have you seen the service bulletin on this issue
No, what does it say ?? Is it similar to the Ford eco boost one about the oil needing to be correct & the oil strainer getting blocked 🤷🏼♂️
Can you please tell us at what mileage these faults occur? Turd time of t'asking
I show the mileage in the video 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ This vehicle has 182,000 kms, I recommend watching the whole of my videos to see the mileage’s. Hopefully this helps you 👍👍
Hello, is 1.6 puretech has wet belt or chain?
I’m not sure but if you remove the oil filler cap and look in you should be able to see a belt or chain 🤞🤞
Насколько надежен этот двигатель при хорошем обслуживании? Какой у него ресурс в милях или километрах?
Not too many people like any wet belt engines. But the belt is really easy to replace compared to others. So replace the belt relatively regularly and it should be a great little engine 😉👍👍
@@kennedysgarage3281 спасибо за ответ. Очень нравятся автомобили Пежо, Ситроен.
Ohhh man you're lucky that you didn't have to do the direct injection and turbo version off the 1.2 puretech, that is a nightmare without timing tools
Nice to know that Georgi, I’ll be weary of those 😉👍👍👍
The one you cannot see the both camshafts with the rocker cover off. The tool is cheap from laser amazon couldn’t imagine trying without them there’s no point they clip in on end of cams pin in crank and rip it apart chuck it together no messing about trying to mark it up🤙
Did u change? The oil.
It was changed 5 days earlier on a service when we told him to do the timing belt. No oil related issues & I believe the belt hadn’t deteriorated enough to cause any further problems 😉👍👍👍
I’m ashamed to call myself an Engineer after seeing this wet belt design. The belt material (hydrogenated nitrile for chemical resistance, and glass filled nylon for added strength) is typically great in all oils, chemically very good! Temps good for 150c The problem is the surface finish, the rubber likes smooth surface finishes to be run on, and it doesn’t like metal shards being compressed into it!! I work in the oil and gas sector, and we have seen this occur in our own tools. Silly design.
I guess these things have to be tested on normal everyday items to prove the test over time. I’m doing a wet belt on a 2021 Mondeo next week, the Eco blue engine and Ford seem to have made it a lot easier to renew. Thank goodness 🙏🙏
Miss the 1.1/1/4 KFV/KFZ days lol...
The good old days 😂😂😂
nice watch peter
Thank Paddy a little weekend entertainment & education all in one ☝️ 👍👍
185.000 for Puretech,not so bad.
It may have been changed prior 🤔 possibly around 90 or 100k. Handy enough to change 😉👍👍
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Yep looks straight forward enough. Certainly better than ford. Who have gone back to a chain anyway on later version
I did hear that Chris, it’s crazy make decisions & then having to change it because of it being such a bad design 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ Thanks mate 🙏
@Kennedy’s garage i watched a KZhead video made by the company that were commissioned to design and make the wet belt for ford. They show in the video how they swell with age and the cause of the failure.
@@the_retired_mechanic hmmm, that sounds like an interesting watch. I must do some searching 👍👍
ı watching from turkey.
Thank you for watching sir from Ireland 🇮🇪 & hopefully my video helps you out 🙏🙏
@@kennedysgarage3281 yes it helped a lot thank you :)
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How many Miles/km?
It has 181,000kms I show it in the video 👍👍
I missed one thing. I didnt see a oil change. And kleening the filter . Maybe i missed it .
This vehicle was serviced only 1 week earlier, when I recommended it got a timing belt. As for the oil strainer, I felt that the belt hadn’t degraded enough to deem it necessary to be cleaned. I might get to show it on the next one 🤞🤞 I’m at a Ford eco boost belt just today 😂😂
'savage idea', lol
Hey Davey, it is a brilliant idea. Compared to those bloody Eco Boosts 😬😬 It just makes the job so much easier 👍👍
you forgot the check the oil pump mate ;)
Nope, every move I carry out is derived from evidence & i choose not to remove the sump due to the good condition of the belt 😉👍👍👍
Change oil when changing belt
It was done 3 days beforehand on a service when we recommended to replace the belt 😉👍👍👍
wow that belt is breaking up you will need to drop the sump and clean the strainer
Someone else mentioned that, I must look at the video again because from memory I thought the belt was in very good condition 🤔🤔 I normally would if I thought it was needed but I didn’t in this case, with no oil related issues 🤞🤞
if you need the service bulletin let me know and i,ll send the photos from my 1.2 wet belt scary reading as a mechanic
@@scotspie501douglas7 please, contact me on Kennedys garage.ie 🙏🙏
@@kennedysgarage3281 I,ll send you all the info it is shocking scary stuff where are you based
@@scotspie501douglas7 Southern Ireland & you ??
Sump off, clean pick up
Advisable in most cases 😉🙏🙏🙏
How is that down as a 8 hour job 😂 your filming and explaing and still got it done it half that time.
🤷🏼♂️ I don’t do too much setting up, so filming doesn’t add too much time. 8 hours was just a guide time that the dealer said. The time may be smaller on Autodata or Alldata 🤔🤔🤔👍
Done shitloads of them on the transit ecoblu engines there infamous done a few engine rebuilds and full exchanges due to total failure of the belt not a clever idea tbh
Probably were a good idea in theory but most people would just use the incorrect oils and nearly cause the problem, just by not knowing 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Citeron had to replace the engine on 24000 miles C4 cactus rip curl even service on Feb then April new engine? Nearly five grand. Free? Common fault on pure tech engine.
These kind of failures must be costing manufacturers some money 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@@kennedysgarage3281 because it was a defect in timing belt the engine are great but I asked the citeron garage is there a defect not on your car? But there was so it was replaced free even when it was serviced?
Dealers do it in an hour and take 7 hours to wash up afterwards.
Probably 😂😂😂
2.7 hrs you get to do it 😬
@@macalfc1019 it is probably do able in that time, once you move fast 🙂😂😂😂
What I dumb design for that belt to be removed
I actually thought it brilliant, it is some time saver for anyone doing it 🤷🏼♂️👍👍
I am a state-certified automotive mechatronics technician. Such a senseless construction: a timing belt that runs in the engine oil. The bill of exchange costs about 2,500 €. A Finn blew up his Tesla. That's what you should have with such cars, these such a timing belt in an oil bath 🙈😡😡😡
On these PSA engines it is a relatively easy job compared to the awful 1.0 Ford eco boost engines. These one take around as long as a normal belt to replace, but the Ford one could take up to 12 hours. That is a real pain in comparison, but you are correct whoever thought up of this belt system should be fired 🤷🏼♂️😂😂😂 Thanks mate 🙏🙏
Motor code please
HMZ (EB2F) this is what Autodata tells me when I looked it up 😉👍👍👍
looking at the state of that belt you forgot a RELY important job. clean up the oil pickup in the oil sump. that is guarantied to be clogged.
The belt on this was unusually good, with not deterioration. What did you see that I didn’t ??
@@kennedysgarage3281 the surface on the top. it look's just as it do when it shed the first layer. not the tooth side. the top side.
@@kennedysgarage3281 this one is "worse" as this thing is to the point that the oil lamp is on. pmmonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/OESAA-Hub-Fig-3-21.jpg
My belt is deteriorating and the garage said they'll empty the oil sump, but what else could potentially be damaged from the belt deteriorating? I want to check that they've looked at everything before driving it away to avoid any future issues
@@lewdar_ the problem is that you will be running with low oil pressure for a logn time before the light blinks/come on. this also damage the oil pump and can damage the vacuum pump if your car have one. and the low oil pressere will damage the bearings, pistons etc. this will up the oil consumption as things start to were down.
If only the ecoboom was as straightforward the 1.2 turbo in these slighly more work but still easier than ford
I have heard that but this was my first one of these and I must say a brilliant design. Well done PSA 👏👏👏
Wet timing belts, what a stupid idea, should only ever be chains that are oiled, not belts
I not a lover of the wet belt design either. But all we can do at this point is try to help avoid them breaking 😬😬👍👍
Aye very true there, just wish they designed them better so that they don't flake off and fall into the sump pan and clog up the oil pickup strainer
@@addzw7195 I believe it is the wrong or incorrect oils that cause them to degrade prematurely 🤷🏼♂️👍👍
Never ever buy a car with this crappy hupzenflutzen gay 3 cilinder engine ! DEMAND a 4 cilinder car with no turbo and no direct injection.
Very true, nothing runs quite as sweet as an older 4 cylinder engine 😂😂😂
At what mileage should it be replaced.
It is recommended to be replaced at 165,000 but has a whole load of red warnings about premature failure 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ Better to do it earlier rather than later 😉👍👍
How much something like this will cost us in England?? Dose anyone know
I’d hazard a guess at around 5 or 6 hundred pounds 🤔🤔
Interesting Pete! I have a Fiesta ‘S’ Ecoboost 1.0(Australia) mine has 97,000Kms on the odo.Not due until 240,000Kms or 10 years(2025) not sure when I will get it replaced.Always get my oil changed @ least(or try) twice a year.Oil & filters are cheap, a blown motor is not.What is your experience on longevity of these little 1.0 Ecoboost motors?Cheer.👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🦘🦘🦘
The seem to be failing very prematurely, so much so that they call them the ecoboom engine. Their was 140,000kms on the one I done & it had signs of bad deterioration.
@@kennedysgarage3281 doubt mine will ever get to 140,000kms! It is only a runabout car, not our main vehicle.Maybe there is ‘hope’ for mine yet!.Thx for the feedback Pete.👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🦘🦘🦘🦘
@@hackney7106 😉🙏🙏🙏