US Ukraine aid breaks deadlock while European allies consider Iron Dome style defences

2024 ж. 15 Сәу.
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The success of Israel and allies defences against Iran's missile strikes has led to some to ask US aid to Ukraine could set a template for a European copies of Iran's Iron Dome defence systems.
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  • i'm so glad the conversation is shifting to how money is spent rather than how much. far more important.

    @enculpius@enculpiusАй бұрын
  • > set a template for a European copies of Iran's Iron Dome defence systems. Surely you meant Israel's?

    @KirsiVackelin@KirsiVackelinАй бұрын
  • The whole of Society must come together to rebuild our military might. We need a strong leader to drive us through this decade of war!

    @TheSkaffen@TheSkaffenАй бұрын
    • amen

      @DacianRider@DacianRiderАй бұрын
    • Right on mate, how else are we to steal Russia's Oil like we stole Iraq's, and Syria's and Libya's and the list go's on and on, "if you know what I'm talking about" mate.

      @tonybenn1000@tonybenn1000Ай бұрын
    • There was a trifle left. Find a strong leader. In the meantime, we see semi-literate idiots. They have problems with basic secondary education.

      @user-oq7uw2sy9s@user-oq7uw2sy9sАй бұрын
    • Yes, absolutely we have to come together to rebuild our military might. If we don't have a strong leader, we need to have a strong mind and a strong will ... welcome, we are at the starting point of this enormous change ..... :)

      @PraneshSacher@PraneshSacherАй бұрын
  • Iron Dome for Ukraine was the first thing on everyone's mind, and the answer then was: "impossible for an area this large" ?!?

    @Alicja1Fenigsen@Alicja1FenigsenАй бұрын
    • They will had to install twice the number that Israel have.

      @yevgeni10@yevgeni10Ай бұрын
    • 😂 nevermind the cost is in the billions... Either way Israel and US help and 72 hours warning from Iran.. even then they got hit two air bases and a intelligence centre in tel aviv

      @washuneluvhada7616@washuneluvhada7616Ай бұрын
    • @@washuneluvhada7616 That not true, even the US said it was fake news.

      @yevgeni10@yevgeni10Ай бұрын
    • ​@@washuneluvhada7616and did less human damage than an Alec Baldwin filmset .

      @rogerhall6021@rogerhall6021Ай бұрын
    • @@washuneluvhada7616 Money is NOTHING compared to human lives. Well unless your Russian and Vova is involved because the price of a Russian son is a bag of onions.

      @Yuri_Volkov.@Yuri_Volkov.Ай бұрын
  • "breaks deadlock" is present tense. It hasn't happened yet.

    @ComaDave@ComaDaveАй бұрын
    • Yes, click bait title.

      @StillAliveAndKicking_@StillAliveAndKicking_Ай бұрын
    • There is a degree on certainty. That bill already passed. The rest is a public stunt to confuse Russia. US knows how to play politics better than Russia.

      @kummer45@kummer45Ай бұрын
  • We have no defence against missiles?- We seem to have no doctors,dentists,decent roads & hardly any hospitals properly staffed either. But we do have thousands of our newly arrived 'friends' ensconced in 4star hotels while many ex soldiers live on the streets.They are not a good advert for joining the services.

    @michaelnannestad7399@michaelnannestad7399Ай бұрын
    • Would you like to sit in your safe space for a while and hug your special blanket?

      @user-bw5ib8ds1e@user-bw5ib8ds1eАй бұрын
    • Don't forget, the UK with Germay financed the whole EU infrastructure project for 45 years!!....

      @nikolaucznaum4312@nikolaucznaum4312Ай бұрын
    • Don’t forget our nuclear deterrent does not work

      @kirishima638@kirishima638Ай бұрын
    • What's a 6 star hotel? Decent roads? Why are people buying ever heavier and pricey vehicles to take their overweight bodies 4 miles to the supermarket? Perhaps they should start to pay for the damage they cause. Same for a largely unhealthy population filling up the wards.

      @suburbia2050@suburbia2050Ай бұрын
    • @@suburbia2050 Auto non correct altered it from 4 to 6 stars.

      @michaelnannestad7399@michaelnannestad7399Ай бұрын
  • The IMF expects that Ukraine's economic growth rate will be 3.2% at the end of this year, and will increase to 6.5% in 2025. This is stated in the report World Economic Outlook, presented during the IMF and the World Bank meeting in Washington.

    @user-ek6sr4gq1m@user-ek6sr4gq1mАй бұрын
    • 😂The very institutions controlled by Western elites

      @washuneluvhada7616@washuneluvhada7616Ай бұрын
    • Yes they were doing well considering. But now things have changed! You can't expect this amount of destruction to be conducive to continuing strengthening economy. This is by any stretch of the imagination,what American CEOs desire. They hold the political power because there are no laws about reporting where campaign money comes from comes

      @cmbergersct3492@cmbergersct3492Ай бұрын
  • Johnson/Trump TOXIC!

    @bryonyallan2202@bryonyallan2202Ай бұрын
    • Biden/Harris Disaster...

      @rcgunner7086@rcgunner7086Ай бұрын
    • Which Johnson? Mike, Boris or both?

      @chrissaris6869@chrissaris6869Ай бұрын
    • ​@@chrissaris6869the rock

      @themcgeachys@themcgeachysАй бұрын
    • @@themcgeachys Magic

      @urlauburlaub2222@urlauburlaub2222Ай бұрын
    • Traitors!

      @alien4422@alien4422Ай бұрын
  • Todays missile's are not the the V2missles that hit London 75 years ago Britain can build a missile system with Ukraine a shared friendship together. Ukraine has the knowledge Britain has the means together.

    @EricaFiore@EricaFioreАй бұрын
    • Absolutely. I thought about the same. UK needs to create national revenues and working with Ukraine could escalate the British defense industry with up-to-date warfare knowledge. Europe needs to ramp up its own military defense industry and UK should concentrate on specific equipments and missiles like the Storm Shadow, air defense and drone technologies.

      @frank-t6857@frank-t6857Ай бұрын
    • @@frank-t6857 yah but the corrupt make more money by having massive budgets and providing nothing and since our politcians, media and generals are all on the take...

      @schloops8473@schloops8473Ай бұрын
    • Briton should sort its own problems out and stop meddling in every other country’s affairs

      @garyrumsby3330@garyrumsby3330Ай бұрын
    • @@garyrumsby3330 Every other country seems to want to meddle in Britain's affairs which make sorting problems problematic.

      @everTriumph@everTriumphАй бұрын
    • The Russian offensive in the summer of 2024 will bring down the Ukrainian front line. This is reported by Politico with reference to high-ranking officers.

      @Benjamin-hg018@Benjamin-hg018Ай бұрын
  • Untold billions have been spent to develop high-energy laser beam weapons that, according to military reports, can shoot down missiles and even drones in a fraction of a second. These lasers are land based and also mounted on war planes and naval ships. You need to look into this and make a report. If this laser technology works, there will be no need for missile defense systems.

    @harrydecker8731@harrydecker8731Ай бұрын
  • The US defense budgets for decades has been to mainly counter the Russian threat. Recently (possibly thanks to Ukraine) China has taken 1st position. Since the last couple of years our annual defense budgets have exceeded 800 billion I'd say 60 billion to Ukraine is a heck of a deal to finally close the Russian issue with none of our boots on the ground so we can concentrate on the next real threat.

    @valmikabeneteau7229@valmikabeneteau7229Ай бұрын
    • US controls over 1,000 overseas military bases, Russia has 29 China has fewer. Russia is the threat ??? What utter nonsense.

      @benachiesween@benachiesweenАй бұрын
    • Keep giving …😂😂😂

      @danielculpepper9258@danielculpepper925829 күн бұрын
  • Does UK have any air defence systems? Let me guess, nothing modern and just a few can operate better than Trident?

    @StPiter111@StPiter111Ай бұрын
  • thanks to Putin's "Defense Incentive Program". He deserves credit for NATO expansion and "DIP". Nice job!

    @icu17siberia@icu17siberiaАй бұрын
    • NATO weapons & EU are depleted to critical levels😂 paper tigers

      @washuneluvhada7616@washuneluvhada7616Ай бұрын
    • @@washuneluvhada7616 oh really, Ivan? You are doing to be very surprised indeed if Russia makes a fatal mistake and steps a foot into NATO land.

      @nozhki-busha@nozhki-bushaАй бұрын
    • @@nozhki-busha NATO already sent troops into Ukraine under the "foreign fighters" group , they all got shovelled...🤡 This is Russia humiliating NATO at this point, Ukraine is irrelevant & on NATO life support, lost a year ago

      @washuneluvhada7616@washuneluvhada7616Ай бұрын
    • ​@@washuneluvhada7616 hahaha you cats are adorable. You can always tell what's true about a russian - because they will accuse you of the same thing: The rf begs NK and Iran for weapons? NATO IS OUT OF WEAPONS! The rf's military turns out to be a joke? NATO IS A PAPER TIGER! The ruble falls in value by 70%? THE DOLLAR IS DOOMED! So, you're saying the rf's weapons are depleted. Thanks for the heads up. I hope they're paying you in rubles, dude, because if you were getting real money to do this job...it would be an outrage.

      @billy2807@billy2807Ай бұрын
    • Keep dreeming Vatnik we have been prepaired for you for 80 years and you nave no clue what sits a next to your western boarderline already and due the DCA agreament there shall be much more in future.

      @ospehu1@ospehu1Ай бұрын
  • This will be very disappointing that no missiles defence for UK, I don't think so.

    @mtam7575@mtam7575Ай бұрын
    • Not sure what you mean? It's true that there is very little in the way of ground based air defence for the UK. There are a few Sky Sabre units (One in the Falklands, one currently deployed to Poland), which are good but of limited range and capability. Then we are down to short range, man portable weapons. There is limited capability if a Type 45 destroyer happens to be in port and crewed, but even that is currently only able to intercept short range ballistic missiles. The UK possesses nothing with the capability of the Israeli Arrow 2/3, SM3, Patriot PAC3 or THAAD.

      @bobthebomb1596@bobthebomb1596Ай бұрын
    • If Putin is defeated, no one needs missile defense for awhile. Defeating Putin will even deter China.

      @carlabroderick5508@carlabroderick5508Ай бұрын
  • It's actually Kyiv Keeve not Kiev Kiev is the Russian word. And Kyiv is not Russian. Ukraine 🇺🇦 is Ukraine.

    @davidoliver7510@davidoliver7510Ай бұрын
    • Chicken ones out of ice land mmmmm

      @themcgeachys@themcgeachysАй бұрын
    • As a request and with respect, KyivNotKiev is an online campaign to persuade English-language {speakers}, media and organizations to exclusively use Kyiv as the name of the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv. (derived from the Ukrainian-language 'Київ') instead of Kiev which is (derived from the Russian-language 'Киев') 💙 🇺🇦 💛 🔱 💚 🇦🇺 💛

      @PNH-sf4jz@PNH-sf4jzАй бұрын
    • Hahahahahaha, and it is Lindin, not London!

      @BabbaYagga@BabbaYaggaАй бұрын
  • The video description looks like it was written by a 12 year old....

    @nils4137@nils4137Ай бұрын
    • No it wasnt written by the Russian MOD 🤣

      @nozhki-busha@nozhki-bushaАй бұрын
    • Thank you for saying what I thought. It’s surprising for a national newspaper. Perhaps they had a long lunch…

      @gearingonline@gearingonlineАй бұрын
    • These days newspapers can’t afford to pay adults.

      @StillAliveAndKicking_@StillAliveAndKicking_Ай бұрын
  • If money won't buy a better defense, then obviously the solution is more INTELLIGENT defense spending and more INTELLIGENT defense design.

    @AUNEEKUZIRNAIM@AUNEEKUZIRNAIMАй бұрын
  • 😂 _"Britain Stands Together With the Ukraine"_ The gift that keeps on giving...

    @livingtribunal4110@livingtribunal4110Ай бұрын
  • What we have no AWACs coverage! SERIOUSLY?

    @timmmyboi2@timmmyboi2Ай бұрын
  • Most UK citizens would forgo the soon-to-arrive Tory tax cuts to ensure the nation is adequately prepared!!...

    @nikolaucznaum4312@nikolaucznaum4312Ай бұрын
    • The Tories are finished. Labour will win the next election in the coming months and they'll actually invest in the military.

      @Yuri_Volkov.@Yuri_Volkov.Ай бұрын
  • Correction: The description should refer to Israel's Iron dome, not Iran's

    @j.x.x.r3645@j.x.x.r3645Ай бұрын
  • There is a huge problem with British procurement. Ajax APC was a good system in use in other countries but the MOD wanted changes. For minimal gains we had massive cost increase a lack of compatibility and a suspension system that made troops sick. Astute and Dreadnaught submarine costs have skyrocketed as MoD change specs. We have aircraft carriers with no planes and both RAF and Navy had to go for the short range less capable version of the F35 because MoD wanted to save money on catapult. And we don’t have the ships to defend them. It’s a FUBAHR caused by our own systems which need an urgent overhaul.

    @marknicholson2281@marknicholson2281Ай бұрын
  • Ffs we don't even have bunkers

    @themcgeachys@themcgeachysАй бұрын
    • forget that. Focus: the only prevention of serious war is capable systems, namely missile related systems and defense for all incoming aerial weapons. Not friggin complicated to FOCUS

      @18_rabbit@18_rabbitАй бұрын
    • Where will you go for protection London and Glasgow have the underground dome sort of protection

      @themcgeachys@themcgeachysАй бұрын
  • He says we don't have anything like iron dome, but don't we have Sky Sabre which has replaced the outgoing Rapier system?

    @MrFish1968@MrFish1968Ай бұрын
    • Plus the UK RAF was taking out some of the misses and drones from Iran, surely we have more RAF planes at home that the ones stationed near Isreal, to say we have nothing is a bit of a stretch.

      @MrFish1968@MrFish1968Ай бұрын
    • obviously Iron dome performance was impressive.

      @icu17siberia@icu17siberiaАй бұрын
    • @@icu17siberia fyi, iron dome is local level. The real risk/threat is the ballistic missiles which in Iran's attack required Israel to use a whole other system.

      @18_rabbit@18_rabbitАй бұрын
    • We do, but in very limited numbers (one unit on the Falklands and one in Poland atm). We have nothing to take out long range ballistic missiles.

      @bobthebomb1596@bobthebomb1596Ай бұрын
  • All major western countries should have layered air defence for critical infrastructure. Iron Done is one of Israel’s three layers. Ground to air defence is the cheapest sustainable system. Air to air defence is very expensive- requiring the air craft fleet and is dependent on expensive missiles. Layered defence can use a combination of laser, missiles and guns (CWIS). No country except Israel has adapted to life in the missile age.

    @peterryan4851@peterryan4851Ай бұрын
    • peterryan4851: for all that, the Israelis couldn’t detect or stop the terrorist attack on their border areas in October 2023!

      @paulleigh7792@paulleigh7792Ай бұрын
    • @@paulleigh7792 Well let me think a second, maybe our little friends thought, we have disarmed them, so all we had to fight were unarmed Women and Children?

      @tonybenn1000@tonybenn1000Ай бұрын
  • his supposed 'recipe' for change just sounds like giving up - rather than some specific clever efficiency new defence plan

    @bbbf09@bbbf09Ай бұрын
  • We have land-based Sky Sabre but NATO air defences could stop a lot of missiles and drones over Europe before they even reached the UK. The prospect of the Russian navy firing on us from the Atlantic is pretty remote.

    @xxjonboy@xxjonboyАй бұрын
  • More wars equals high inflation. Poor life quality. Higher taxes

    @Sigmafree1@Sigmafree129 күн бұрын
  • If the iron Dome stopped some of Iranian missiles, it doesn't mean it will stop advanced Russian missiles

    @Sigmafree1@Sigmafree129 күн бұрын
  • it's all very well but who is going to make this stuff we don't make stuff here in the uk it takes years to train engineers who can make this stuff we just stack things up in shops and sell it and most of it comes from else where not the uk

    @johnnorman7044@johnnorman7044Ай бұрын
  • The Americans went through this problem during the 80s and 90s. Why did we not take a leaf out of their book? Also maybe not having such a top heavy military would be better?

    @pfccalico7676@pfccalico7676Ай бұрын
  • To your headline - When exactly? This year, next year, sometime, never?

    @JaneSoole@JaneSooleАй бұрын
  • Half-cocked is Britains strong-point.

    @bobbrown8661@bobbrown8661Ай бұрын
  • I have to disagree on the Australia part of this equation. Australia is raising defense spending to 2.4% of GDP, is investing 5 billion dollars into Rolls Royce nuclear propulsion facility in the UK. They have committed to building 17 frigates, with some to be built overseas for delivery this decade, the rest built in Australia. Ultimately it will be building 8 to 12 nuclear powered submarines of the same type that the UK will be building. Rather than pulling back from Australia, the government needs to be making certain that 11 of those newly announced frigates are Type 31 frigates, with obvious benefits for British industry. Australia is already building Type 26 frigates. And in the long run, Australia will provide the economies of scale Britain so desperately needs for the AUKUS submarine project. It is very much a two way street with the Australians developing the Ghostshark drone submarine, which may become useful for the RAN, plus, with the Americans, developing a new class of drone missile ships. The refocus on Australia and the Indo/Pacific in recent years has been part of a resurgence of British naval manufacturing long term. Building missile defenses and North Atlantic defenses are essential, but get that defense spending increasing. 3% does not sound all that high, encourage Australia to also increase spending to 3% and build ships and missiles in both countries. We are all stronger by working cooperatively, and besides historic ties, Australia is an ally that is getting very serious about defense spending - it is a good country to have a very close defense relationship with.

    @artistjoh@artistjoh29 күн бұрын
  • I think its a given to have an iron dome system. We definitely need something as our armed forces wouldn't cope if Russia invaded with scuds. The politicians of this country are totaly incompetent and need to step up to protect its people,after all protection of its people is its first priority.

    @phillipneale5256@phillipneale5256Ай бұрын
  • Note well that modern armaments are cheaper by the dozen. When designing Patriot/Iron Dome systems, no one considered the scale of the current drone/missle throughput we're experiencing today. Computers get cheaper, and so will ABM loads.

    @andrewfoster1641@andrewfoster1641Ай бұрын
    • dozen...lol. Keep in mind that the first months of the war, Russia was lobbing 60K shells per day!!!!!!!!!! The production capacity in the west has to be increased a fair bit and immediately, by definition. If the gvt's are not doing this already then they are derelict, literally, and putting us in jeapordy. But even more importantly we must have high tech missile tech, that is where the serious money needs to be spent. That is unfortunately a fact.

      @18_rabbit@18_rabbitАй бұрын
  • The main problem with our defence expenditure is politicians using it for job creation. We spent £3.4 billion trying to develop our own maritime patrol aircraft before abandoning it and buying the American version that was available in the first place

    @stephenpickering5968@stephenpickering5968Ай бұрын
    • Don’t even mention Ajax armoured vehicle or the SA80, the most expensive individual weapon ever invented.

      @andyniblock43@andyniblock43Ай бұрын
  • What is the point with a missile defence. Just have missiles oneself that one can fire off against the enemy

    @Lukky_Luke@Lukky_LukeАй бұрын
  • Lets remember the Russians wont be firing catusha,rockets. We saw iron dome couldn't do anything with iran .so lets not over play our hands please lets make peace

    @Johndeportationking-we1pi@Johndeportationking-we1piАй бұрын
  • Everyone is oblivious to the fact that Donald Trump signed off on more funding for Ukraine several months ago. It's only a couple Republicans(actually libertarians) that have been holding this up Their leverage is threatening to unseat Johnson. It only takes 1 to start things rolling. That's house rules for either party. It's only a problem when your party only holds a slim margin.

    @omegaz3393@omegaz3393Ай бұрын
  • This Great island has been a fortress for 1000 years, it's a no brained to me it a fortress again

    @daveymc172@daveymc172Ай бұрын
    • sure but what it means to be a fortress now is entirely different from the past. It means having forward-reaching military capabilities in conjuction with a coalition of close allies like the USa, and ideally even Germany if it can snap to it and get its military redeveloped, bcuz they are farther behind than even the Uk now! It will take germany ten years estimated, to get its military back to status of fifteen years ago! Let's get cracking!

      @18_rabbit@18_rabbitАй бұрын
    • Fortress lol! This island has been invaded so many times it’s impossible to know where the original population and culture ended and the new one began. Off the top of my head: - the Celts - the Romans - the Saxons - the Danes - the Normans - the Dutch Since Brexit, our borders have been completely open because we cannot afford the costs of checking imports upon which we are entirely dependent: one bad diseased animal or food product would absolutely devastate us. An no, the EU doesn’t check produce that is not destined for an EU member, despite what Mogg said. And as for immigration, the Tory government has issued visas to hundreds of thousands of Indians and Africans to replace the EU citizens in the NHS after the latter left, many of them under qualified or ‘self certified’. And that’s not including small boat asylum seekers.

      @kirishima638@kirishima638Ай бұрын
    • @@kirishima638 Yawn. Our borders were open before Brexit and produce was "checked" by the manufacturer not the EU.

      @bobthebomb1596@bobthebomb1596Ай бұрын
    • @@bobthebomb1596 no, our borders WERE the EU as we were a member of the single market. Goods coming into the block were checked; beef entering Poland on its way to Britain was checked at the Polish border and wine entering Britain on its way to Italy was checked at the British border. Internal produce for internal markets was not checked because it had to be produced to high EU standards. Occasionally this failed eg the horse meat scandal, but for the most part it was safe because of the high standards. When Britain left the single market and became a third country, we lost all of these protections. Beef entering Poland for Britain is not checked and could be contaminated. We should be checking this stuff at our borders, just like Japan checks imports or America or any other country. But we’re not. We are wide open. This is great for EU exporters to Britain as it means no delays of costs and the Tories rely on this to fool the public into thinking everything is fine, and because carrying out checks would disrupt food supplies. It is terrible for British exporters who must process paperwork and costs to export into the block. Because France, Holland etc actually built processing centres for British goods in 2017, when May smugly triggered Article 50 despite having no clue what form Brexit would take, and when some Tories were still claiming we would remain in the single market. It’s also bad for British farmers and fishermen, who not only lost EU subsidies, they must continue to produce to EU standards despite no longer having any say in those standards. Do you get it now?

      @kirishima638@kirishima638Ай бұрын
  • HRM ships have capable AA weapons, but them are few

    @Igors_mind@Igors_mindАй бұрын
  • "Drone Wars" , Starting to Look Like Movie "Terminator" !! Who Knew...

    @johnnywalker4490@johnnywalker4490Ай бұрын
  • Why do we need a defence system for London? That's where the enemy live!

    @oslo6661@oslo666129 күн бұрын
  • MTG is not right wing at all. Right wing left wing: neither. She’s plainly crazy bird.

    @authenticeb@authenticebАй бұрын
  • How can Europe have Iron Dome? Israel is tiny.

    @Evergreen0021@Evergreen0021Ай бұрын
    • Iron Dome can protect large areas , the Tamir missiles interceptors are placed on the border areas that need to be protected. For larger areas you would need more Iron Dome batteries. The best way to protect against missiles is to use 3 layer protection that Israel is using : Iron Dome , Davids Sling and Arrow 2/3. Such a 3 layer protection would be effective also against Russian attacks.

      @_elix22@_elix2228 күн бұрын
  • A-10s would be more beneficial than the f-16 in my opinion

    @kenyonchugg7570@kenyonchugg7570Ай бұрын
    • Not really. They're too slow and there's too much integrated air defense along the lines of contact. That's why neither country has gained air superiority.

      @midwesttraveler2485@midwesttraveler2485Ай бұрын
    • @@midwesttraveler2485 Makes sense. I was thinking of ground cover. Air defense like you said would shoot em down quickly.

      @kenyonchugg7570@kenyonchugg757023 күн бұрын
  • Inarticulate speaker

    @Helen-nl9lv@Helen-nl9lvАй бұрын
  • Why can’t we use some of our own ship missiles defence just placed on high land to get a better view we have old ships with them and just make new ones we do for ships and fit them on land same thing and cheaper than other similar defence batteries 🤷‍♂️👍🏼 makes sense ships do the same thing just at sea just fit them to high land also 🇬🇧🇺🇦👍🏼

    @tumbullweed@tumbullweedАй бұрын
  • Despite what solar head man says , Britain is perfectly safe from either Russia, China ,Iran or North Korea unless the British Government get funny and cause an existential threat to any of the above countries. However going by what Cameron and Macron has been threatening recently with their reckless suggestions for Ukraine the this situation could change quickly ,and rightly so.

    @michaelmullins3396@michaelmullins3396Ай бұрын
  • The issue with MOD defence procurement is common in our public sector. Procurement is both over regulated and frequently a race to the bottom to deliver customised solutions at the cheapest price. It doesn’t work. Buy quality, proven off-the-shelf solutions for mainstream capability. Good enough is good enough. Then choose a point of military specialisation and that’s where we must spend the money for the cherry-on-top more bespoke or customised capabilities.

    @mikejwheatley@mikejwheatleyАй бұрын
  • Buy the right systems, now contracts are given for expensive and uncapable products for political reasons, not technically or cost effectiveness

    @DoronL73@DoronL7311 күн бұрын
  • The Russian offensive in the summer of 2024 will bring down the Ukrainian front line. This is reported by Politico with reference to high-ranking officers.

    @Benjamin-hg018@Benjamin-hg018Ай бұрын
  • all of the support and development for defence has been privatised, of course it costs a fortune, they'd privatise the MOD if they could.

    @mrtankalotrctankschannel@mrtankalotrctankschannelАй бұрын
  • What part of any escalated war sees us needing a weapons defence system for conventional weapon attacks? Who could reach us? What circumstances would see them use conventional weapons over a prolonged period? How would one of the most densely populated countries in Europe be able to shoot down missiles safely without killing significant numbers in the process? If the missiles are coming from the east geographically id guess they will be travelling over many of our EU allies.... What will they have to say about missiles in their airspace? The absolute last thing we need to worry about is conventional missile attacks. If we have upped our involvement in either conflict to the extent that we are engaged in fully fledged war the weapons used will clearly wipe ourselves and the aggressor out instantly. I would expect the UK to use the most lethal response available if any nation dared to attack.

    @bowlingarry@bowlingarryАй бұрын
  • Seems the armed forces share identical problems to the NHS, police and education with increasing amounts of cash going less distances the more politicians are allowed to benefit from contracts with private firms, the only logical solution is paying politicians more to set up a committee and tell us they need more money. After paying tax, mortgage, bills and food I almost broke even last month I'm sure I could spare another 5% or so.

    @zopEnglandzip@zopEnglandzipАй бұрын
  • There is a huge difference between European allies. There are state-of-the-art systems during construction and deployment like Polish multiple layer defence structure and the countries with almost no plan and no money alocated in it, like the UK. The iron dome is simly the lowest layer of defence, created mostly against the cheapest flying devices. There is no point in coordinating of such a project within Europe and it is so difficult that almost impossible, taking into consideration specifics of the countries in a possible conflict. However, a kind of European cooperation in the highest layer of anti-ballistic defence (an equivalent of Israel’s Arrow 2, Arrow 3 and similar American systems) is a good idea. That is why the countries like Poland, France or Italy which are much more advanced in building the system could also join the initiative. Anyway… it is a very vague idea now and it will not deliver earlier than in next ten yeras. Please, don’t use the terms like ‘the iron dome’ misleadingly. Even if this discussion is interesting, there is a lot of ignorance in it.

    @greycliffnative@greycliffnative29 күн бұрын
  • Some Billions Support Now , OR, 7 TRILLION $$ LATER is TOO Late...

    @johnnywalker4490@johnnywalker4490Ай бұрын
  • IT Does Take R&D/ Money to stay AHEAD of our Enemies , or , bend over...

    @johnnywalker4490@johnnywalker4490Ай бұрын
  • MOD procurement is a joke. It needs root and branch change.

    @briansmith9926@briansmith992629 күн бұрын
  • 100% accurate. Now we need 2 democrat parties to go with the 2 GoP parties.

    @jaytate491@jaytate491Ай бұрын
  • Please let NATO buy Patriot. It’s a proven system and Germany Spain Romania and the Netherlands have just placed an order. Germany is going to start production. If NATO or EU countries get together on a bulk purchase the price tumbles. What we don’t need is a huge procurement bill because we want to-tweak it or build our own different system. May be worth comparing to Iron Dome to see if there is a noticeable gain. BAE could even try to get a licence to build in UK

    @marknicholson2281@marknicholson2281Ай бұрын
  • David Murrin covered this ages ago in a report that allegedly reached Boris Johnson when he was in No.10. The answer is a first line of defence comprising naval destroyers with anti-missile weaponry stationed up and down the coast and a second line comprising iron dome type systems critical infrastructure points. Not London though. London doesn’t need an iron dome system - there’s nothing worth defending there. Better to defend Whitby in Yorkshire as it’s got the ‘early warning’ Fillingdales base and the lucrative Woodsmith mines close by. And this argument about accepting a smaller role in the world is nonsensical. Investing in a navy pays for itself by boosting trade and securing trade routes.

    @Timehasfallenasleep@TimehasfallenasleepАй бұрын
  • Keep giving money to Ukraine! It works! 😂😉😂

    @danielculpepper9258@danielculpepper925829 күн бұрын
  • ah... the problem with sending only one ship... yeah... good point. people know what is going on, everybody has internet. everybody can lookup how many ships a country has got. also how much money they spend on defense... :D i guess it is kind of pointless to send one ship. the "natives" there will not be afraid and look t it saying "woah... this ship... the uk really shows presence here, we better do what they tell us or they will invade/destroy us" :D hahaha... maybe this worked 150 years ago... either you build, have and send there massive amounts of ships and carriers with fighters... OR.. you you have one super amazing super hero ship that is technological so advanced it scares... like it could have active camo, not even swim in the water but hover over the water, and it should have violet lasers too... maybe a star trek-like shield!!! or... you just leave what you have home and spend the money better... :D sure no, that really is a good argument. but... not even sending one ship!! will result in total ignorance. the people there will absoultely do what they want. china would go on rampage instantly. it is more about the sign, the statement... sending one ship is better than sending no ship! and if 20 nations send 1 ship, the total already is a significant fleet. but i agree that there needs to be more money put into the local defenses as well. irondome-esque defenses make sense. do both!

    @seraphimipx2611@seraphimipx2611Ай бұрын
  • Europe needs an integrated missile defence system though cheap drones en masse could be hard to defend against??Laser system could be part of the answer if it works!! UK should not look outside Europe and the 2 aircraft carriers were a total waste of money!!

    @simonpannett8810@simonpannett8810Ай бұрын
  • This bit about Iron Dome sounds kinda silly. You are the United Kingdom ... search your memories ... there used to be these large metal things, water tight, long and pointy, some had guns on top. What were they called? I wager you could put some missile defense gadgets on the top of those things, and then protect both home and abroad.

    @nrauhauser@nrauhauserАй бұрын
  • Israeli Iron Dome -Nice name - is NO wonder defense system. - Like Always - its been over Hyped.

    @user-zf9jc5yz7o@user-zf9jc5yz7oАй бұрын
    • It has performed extremely well at what it was designed to do.

      @bobthebomb1596@bobthebomb1596Ай бұрын
  • The obvious option cant be mentioned, since it is not "politically" correct.

    @user-mz3in7vo5b@user-mz3in7vo5bАй бұрын
  • He is going to bring each part of the aid package in a seperate bill rather than together.

    @TheBaconWizard@TheBaconWizardАй бұрын
    • Or not

      @RudolphoAqui@RudolphoAquiАй бұрын
    • @@RudolphoAqui I said bring, not pass

      @TheBaconWizard@TheBaconWizardАй бұрын
    • @@TheBaconWizard All stall

      @RudolphoAqui@RudolphoAquiАй бұрын
  • This Iranian strike helped everyone, but Ukraine, win: Iran has "retaliated". Netanyahu has "defended". USA has shown off the might*. Russia diverted help and attention from Ukraine. *USA doesn't negotiate with terrorists unless the terrorist has nukes. What will USA do next time when Iran tests a nuke?

    @inzhener2007@inzhener2007Ай бұрын
    • We see what happens to a country when american extortion forces it to disarm by surrendering its weapons to its historical , genocidal enemy….

      @yurilytviak9066@yurilytviak9066Ай бұрын
    • Things are unrawling....next US fronts will be...... US - Cant handle one front. US - Can certainly not handle two fronts. US - With 3 COMPETING fronts, will effektivly paralyse any aktivity inside and outside US.

      @user-mz3in7vo5b@user-mz3in7vo5bАй бұрын
    • Iran is going to be getting a BIG surprise from the Israeli's

      @Yuri_Volkov.@Yuri_Volkov.Ай бұрын
  • Your 'Description' text is saying that Iran has an iron dome system that Europe wants to copy? hmmm... Who posts your videos and writes these very poorly worded descriptions? You sound like a bunch of amateurs 😅

    @dharma_404@dharma_404Ай бұрын
  • Of course there won't be a bill on the border brought forward unless completely unavoidable - if the border situation improves significantly, it could dent Trump's chances come election time.

    @jiminverness@jiminvernessАй бұрын
  • "Iran's Iron Dome defence systems" Times Radio

    @AmRFuKYaH@AmRFuKYaHАй бұрын
  • Give up the Falklands?

    @everTriumph@everTriumphАй бұрын
  • Please stop saying only republicans get mad about the border. We all do check any polls. I just don’t agree with things like pushing people back into the rio grande .

    @sparks1792@sparks1792Ай бұрын
    • The GOP is behind in every poll. Even in the red states their polling is at the lowest percentage points this century. MAGA has destroyed the Republican party like a cancer eating it away from the inside.

      @Yuri_Volkov.@Yuri_Volkov.Ай бұрын
    • The poor swimmers should knock on the front door instead of sneaking in illegally. If the legal path is a pointless bureaucratic tangle... democrats are in office, democrats should fix it.

      @kerriwilson7732@kerriwilson7732Ай бұрын
  • You guys have a missile defense system called Sky Sabre, and it's highly accurate. I can't believe the amount of information you are putting out about your own country. My only thought is you are trying to drum up support for more military spending. You say your money isn't being used effective? All you did was point to numbers. You guys go the route of less but more technologically advanced (also why you need less soldiers btw). Look at the tanks given to Ukraine. The Challenger 2 is by far the best over the Leopard 2 and M1A1 Abrams. This is one of the worst segments I've seen by Times Radio.

    @drewd2@drewd2Ай бұрын
    • We have plenty of missiles, manufactured by MBDA. We export many to Brazil, Italy etc etc. These guys are not well informed.

      @Mybigfinger_69@Mybigfinger_69Ай бұрын
    • Errr the UK doesn't have an anti ballistic missile system, hence the point in the interview about the RAF would have to scramble, there is no low flying cruise missile that could fly all the way from Russia to the UK, it would have to be a ballistic missile. No idea what you are going on about tanks for I mean surely that proves that superior tech is no good in tiny numbers?!

      @suburbia2050@suburbia2050Ай бұрын
    • ​@@Mybigfinger_69the UK doesn't have an anti ballistic missile system.

      @suburbia2050@suburbia2050Ай бұрын
    • I said we have plenty of missiles, which we do. Anti ballistic, nope we don’t have them I agree. Not until 2032.

      @Mybigfinger_69@Mybigfinger_69Ай бұрын
    • @@Mybigfinger_69 but that was the whole point of the interview the idea of defending from the hypothetical "Russia firing missiles at London" scenario which would be ballistic by nature of the distance, sky sabre etc is built for protecting army units and naval ships out on the battlefield instead. They didn't say the UK had no anti missile or anti air capability.

      @suburbia2050@suburbia2050Ай бұрын
  • ❤Ukrainian ❤

    @Gayzenon@GayzenonАй бұрын
  • 50 countries and their puppet master USA proxy Ukraine against 🇷🇺Russia and they lost 😅😅

    @user-yc4xf8cv5y@user-yc4xf8cv5yАй бұрын
    • Why are you anonymous? You'll never get the credit your genius deserves with a username. 🤡

      @kerriwilson7732@kerriwilson7732Ай бұрын
  • I think Johnson will bring three individual bills to the floor and then just not bring the Ukraine part to the floor at all. This whole thing is designed by Trump and Johnson to delay and prevent any aid to Ukraine at all.

    @crystalbluepersuasion1027@crystalbluepersuasion1027Ай бұрын
    • It doesn't work like that. The President via the house democrats is putting forward the bills and he says they'll be a 4 in 1 package. 1. Ukraine aid package 2. Israel aid package 3. Taiwan aid package 4. US military investment package.

      @Yuri_Volkov.@Yuri_Volkov.Ай бұрын
    • @@Yuri_Volkov. That’s good. Next time I should probably watch the whole video before commenting, lol.

      @crystalbluepersuasion1027@crystalbluepersuasion1027Ай бұрын
  • Stop poking the bear. Safer and cheaper.

    @tarlkoroban3733@tarlkoroban3733Ай бұрын
  • iron dome can not go against 300 drones rockets russia sends 5000 like hamas did wil burst trought remeber 5000 hamas rocketa they said it was a lie more like 50 maby 300 from so far away hits 14 places 5000 from around corner hits nothing strange informations

    @user-ij6ve3rw6s@user-ij6ve3rw6s29 күн бұрын
  • Support Ukraine , for Golly Sake , and , You SAVE YOURSELVES . ...

    @johnnywalker4490@johnnywalker4490Ай бұрын
  • Iron dome is an excellent idea!!

    @jasonwalters6329@jasonwalters632928 күн бұрын
  • Irans iron dome???? Maybe stick to copying Israels

    @martinlewer2910@martinlewer2910Ай бұрын
  • Inviter poutine aux commémorations du débarquement est un impératif. Dès son arrivée en France, on le met dans l’avion pour La Haye, ou il sera accueilli par le tribunal international de justice avec tous les honneurs dûs à son rang.René.

    @djouher887@djouher887Ай бұрын
  • TERRIBLE title, not mere clickbait but entirely fabricated. This is supposed to be a respectable news and current affairs channel.

    @TheBaconWizard@TheBaconWizardАй бұрын
    • @TheBaconWizard It's nothing more than a propaganda channel. First air date: 29 June 2020 brought in just in time for a 'pandemic' and it's been spouting propaganda ever since.

      @boota1979@boota1979Ай бұрын
    • Exactly. I've just looked at several major news websites, but there is no evidence whatsoever that Ukraine is getting any US aid. The deadlock has not been broken, and so far, there is no congressional consensus to vote through the US$ 60 billion military aid package that Ukraine so desperately needs. This is just plain fabrication. I expect more from the Times.

      @futonclutch5040@futonclutch5040Ай бұрын
  • Solution...Make peace with Putin.

    @LynRegan@LynReganАй бұрын
  • right on. never waste money on a lost cause right? keep sending till it hurts.

    @mrdarbab@mrdarbabАй бұрын
  • Inggeeh Rusia nato urusan kamo😗

    @user-ip9fq4co9d@user-ip9fq4co9d15 күн бұрын
  • If the tories think they can make money out of iron dome, then it will appear.

    @raymondmaher1388@raymondmaher1388Ай бұрын
  • the USA is one f$$ked nation. a coup has taken place an unelected person has taken control of the government and nothing will happen without his approval. This person is fully aligned with Putin, the GOP is now the PUtin Party as they work to advance Russian goals in Ukraine.

    @gregmchale5011@gregmchale5011Ай бұрын
  • Oh, more billions for the Military Industrial Complex of the USA to supply the 'dome'.....this stuff never ends!

    @sayitasiseeit626@sayitasiseeit626Ай бұрын
    • A “dome” is a defensive maneuver to avoid Russia bombing a killing civilians in Ukraine as opposed to being an offensive weapon. That’s a good thing that will save lives. That money will be spent in the US and employ Americans who will manufacture and assemble the system. It’s good public policy and a humanitarian effort.

      @Mr_Rob_otto@Mr_Rob_ottoАй бұрын
    • So you are against jobs in America?

      @markmierzejewski9534@markmierzejewski9534Ай бұрын
    • @@markmierzejewski9534 don't talk nonsense

      @sayitasiseeit626@sayitasiseeit626Ай бұрын
    • @@Mr_Rob_otto only an American would call escalating military conflicts all around the world a 'humanitarian effort', that's sick!

      @sayitasiseeit626@sayitasiseeit626Ай бұрын
    • For a native Farsi speaker your English is pretty good!

      @tonyzaffirini7368@tonyzaffirini7368Ай бұрын
  • Don’t come to Canada . We are very good at announcements and posing pretty boy PM who couldnt build an outhouse.

    @johnpacey2604@johnpacey2604Ай бұрын
    • what a crock your stmt is. Trud has been up against it with reactionary nutbar conservative politicians the likes that have probably never been seen before? I'm a yank right below the border and so i know a bit about your ppl. I'm a centrist and trust me, canada's only chance is with the wise leadership of the liberal party.

      @18_rabbit@18_rabbitАй бұрын
  • Iron dome could not stop Iranian hypersonic missiles, Israel only shot down the subsonic missiles and a lot of slow drones. 1200 million dollars were spent in a few hours.

    @user-zw3nv8qc8i@user-zw3nv8qc8iАй бұрын
    • Please list your reference

      @midwesttraveler2485@midwesttraveler2485Ай бұрын
  • Money for war but NOT the poor ..

    @_Richard_F___@_Richard_F___Ай бұрын
    • Meaning Putin, can take care of the poor, he need lots of them, in fact limitless amount! To conquer the world!

      @user-mz3in7vo5b@user-mz3in7vo5bАй бұрын
    • You sound like a WOKE SOCIALIST. Go tell the poor to get a job or work harder. No free money handouts to lazy scroungers.

      @Yuri_Volkov.@Yuri_Volkov.Ай бұрын
    • If there are no defences, the poor will be more worried about you.

      @PNH-sf4jz@PNH-sf4jzАй бұрын
    • @@PNH-sf4jz We put ourselves in that situation to need defence .

      @_Richard_F___@_Richard_F___Ай бұрын
    • @@_Richard_F___ So did the poor by being lazy and not getting jobs.

      @Yuri_Volkov.@Yuri_Volkov.Ай бұрын
  • Waĺrus

    @LynRegan@LynReganАй бұрын
  • I really think you, Brits should not comment on the speculative aspects of our politics. You do not understand them. This is a bill to send support to everyone but Ukraine. He will not bring that to a vote but with this bill he will get enough Republican split that there is no chance for a discharge petition on the good lend lease act bill. That we all really want.

    @Bton1233@Bton1233Ай бұрын
  • Ukraine ain’t getting Jack poo

    @pauldean8638@pauldean8638Ай бұрын
    • Ivan.. Bad news for you. That's about to change.

      @Yuri_Volkov.@Yuri_Volkov.Ай бұрын
  • There's a lot you can cut out of the budget. All that mental health BS won't be needed once people are actively employed and given a purpose.

    @lynetteray2146@lynetteray2146Ай бұрын
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