Daniel Ricciardo is just three races into a crucial 2024 F1 season that was meant to propel him back into a dream Red Bull Racing seat, but is instead starting to feel like a repeat of a previous nightmare.
This hasn't been the start to 2024 that Ricciardo was hoping for at Red Bull's second team, RB. And not because the team is failing to uphold its end of the bargain.
Instead, he's been roundly outperformed by his team-mate Yuki Tsunoda - and there's an eerily similar feel to what he's said about his latest performance compared to his comments during his ill-fated spell at McLaren.
0:00 Ricciardo's struggles
2:13 Echoes of McLaren
4:01 Something amiss?
5:20 What it means for Red Bull
7:18 Lawson a threat?
8:46 What about Ricciardo's conqueror?
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Short version: Washed Long version: Washed
I'd add in, was never that good to begin with, but this works
Long version: *W A S H E D*
@@wmk29 W
He was always destined to be a number 2. He could have been a number 2 in a number 1 team. Now he’s a number two in a meh team.
Thank you.. can't stand Snott Mercedes-MALMS voice
Danny : I never left. Narrator: He had indeed, left.
Had to ruin his 1 good moment in Mclaren with some cringe, unbased shit like this. I could never like him.
narrator voiced by morgan freeman?
@@Cynderfan35I read it more in Ron Howard’s Arrested Development voice
I never left - Danny’s problems
@@motis555yes, he said it like the spell was broken forever and he would deliver in every single race from that moment forward. In reality he won at Monza (the same circuit where De Vries made those points) and with all frontmen DNFing. His actual performance, we see it the races prior and after that one. "Never left"? Oh my boy. Dude left in 2020 already
Yuki deserves more credit. He's been beating his teammates and delivering performance in a mediocre car. But he seems to only get coverage and screentime when he fail to control his temper.
He lost 3-1 in the races against Lawson when they both finished, Lawson was unprepared rookie, he also got destroyed in 2021 by Gasly (failing to deliver in one of the bast AT ever) and although he improved, still lost the next year, Tsunoda is definitely a solid driver now, but he remains in the bottom 5 or 6 of the grid. I put Sainz, Leclerc, Hamilton, Russell, Alonso, Albon, Max, Gasly, Ocon, Norris, Piastri and even Pérez still ahead of him.
@@quentinhirschfeld93822021 was literally his debut year, why is it a bad thing that he gets defeated by a driver with multiple more years of F1 experience?
@@quentinhirschfeld9382Yeah that is a highly questionable stat. First of Zaandvort - Tsunoda was ahead by quite some margin. He was battling with Hamilton and Norris before AT decided to leave him out and cost him 20 seconds. Even then he still had a half minute on Lawson before the red flag came out to close that gap, and it still took a 5 second penalty to finally put Lawson ahead. So yes Lawson was ahead - but he most certainly wasn’t faster. Monza - Tsunoda’s blew up on the way to the grid so lets ignore that. Singapore - Tsunoda was taken out by Perez having a half hearted attempt on the opening lap. In qualifying Tsunoda was again faster his Q1 time was faster than anything Lawson set across all sessions, but Tsunoda didn’t set a Q2 time - which was his own fault. Japan - Again Tsunoda was faster, but Lawson got ahead on the opening lap. They gave Tsunoda the chance to undercut and he did so but he was unable to pull out a significant gap - so here Lawson legitmately was on Tsunoda’s pace. Qatar - Tsunoda was faster and beat him. Qatar - sprint Lawson spun. So it was 2-1 in races they finished and that is being very generous with the circumstances in that Zaandvort race. Japan is the race where Lawson did beat Tsunoda, but the rest Tsunoda was always faster, there was just always some circumstance, be it one of his own making or bad luck.
@@13Xerro 1) RACE-CRAFT is part of what makes a good F1 driver. In Zandvoort, Lawson just avoided trouble and bring the car home despite no experience of the car, being unprepared and never having drove in the rain. In Singapore, Tsunoda knows with his experience that you always leave a space just in case on the inside on an, opening lap, not saying it was his fault, but with better awareness, he would've avoided the incident nonetheless. As for Japan, Yuki was barely quicker on a track Lawson discovered, he schooled him on the first lap. 2) You have to take into consideration that Lawson arrived in the middle of nowhere, the dude was in the middle of a title fight for the title in SuperForumla, before being called due to Ricciardo's injury, literally got wingsuit in a situation he had no chance of anticipating.
@@13Xerro It took 1 year and half to Tsunoda for finally being more or so on Gasly's pace
I said it at the time and I'll say it again, Liam Lawson did more than enough to prove he is worthy of that seat. He is a driver who has more cards to show, whereas Daniel has shown all of his cards and is now at the tail end of his career in F1. Horner wanted him in that seat to put pressure on Perez, but honestly I think Perez will be more worried about how Carlos is performing than Daniel is.
It hurts to watch. At this point, it’s well looking like his final year or final handful of races
Yeh I love him but I think he's too big a step behind now😕
he has so much potential in life too, he’s struggled with the extra aero for too long now
He's only a pair of baggy overalls away from being Jacques Villeneuve in a BMW Sauber.
It better be. It's an embarrassment he's on the grid
good riddance
Yuki: It's great to have Daniel in the team, I hope I will be able to learn a lot from him. Yuki on track: 0.3-0.7s faster than Daniel.
Good. I hope he keeps it that way. DR needs to leave F1. Enough is enough.
Whatever he learned from Daniel, Daniel should learn again it seems
Learning what not to do clearly...
@@shahzebhasan9995this
He is not fast at all
Any other driver who is slow - It's the driver Ricciardo is slow - It's the car
Hamilton is slow - It's the car LeClerc is slow - It's the strategy
@@RAZGR1Z Max wins - it's the car and Max Anyone else wins - it's Max's dead car
The pressure on yuki must’ve hard tbh. Just from de vries who’s expected to beat him. Then danny. He could’ve lose his seat if he was slower by a tenth on those two. Yet he’s going faster and faster. Diamond is built under pressure indeed.
Retire like a hero, or stay long enough to be villian in their eyes--- came true
He needs to follow Romain and head over to Indycar.
Still my hero
He’s had his day. I think it’s obvious now. I thought McLaren was just a case of it not working out, but I guess they were right. With so many young guys waiting and deserving of a chance, hard to keep justifying a place on the grid for the likes of Danny Ric. I feel his days could be numbered. Yes he’s good for the PR and the media love him, but that doesn’t mean he should have a seat over other guys who deserve a shot. Danny has had his shot and his race is run.
The Guenther steiner of drivers.
Ya but is he really good for PR anymore? He sounds like a depressed emo in interviews now
That's what so irritating about Ricciardo is he is past his best and washed. Yet people still want him to have a seat in F1 and deny up and coming young drivers a seat because he's a nice guy. It is time he is shown the door and delusional fanboys are told to fuck off. Get some new talent like Lawson in stop wasting time with Ricciardo just because he's good for PR.
He should retire and go into analysis for media on F1. He would be great at it.
@@davidlynch9049 He could definitely be a very fun pundit
As sad as it may be for some people, he is ready to retire. He may tell himself he’s still hungry for a championship, but when you can’t even match Yuki you aren’t cut out for nothing more than, at max a midfield team. Bring in new blood in Liam Lawson and move forward.
Hopefully Yuki can have a drive next year, he has beaten all his other teammates (except Gasly) and has proven his talent. I'm really rooting for him.
I think Dan Ric should go to prototype racing. F1 can get really depressing and toxic when you don't deliver. Endurance racing is much more of a place where you can have fun and joke with your team mates you share a car with. His F1 experience and his bright personality could boost a team in a team sport like endurance racing, and having a supportive team will also help him mentally.
Or Indycars
Lol, of course people will call it out if you don't perform well in f1, even if you are a funny and likeable. F1 is not a circus or a kinder garden, it's the pinnacle of motorsport for god's sake.
There’s a spare seat going in the third Porsche HyperCar #4 at this years Le Mans alongside Seb Vettel and Mathieu Jaminet. So potentially rhat could be a future route for Danny Ric once he sadly gets the boot from F1.
I think Yuki deserves more respect. Even though there is praise for him in this video, it still feels backhanded. Yuki has been the driver for Alpha/RB consistently performing in spite of the disruptions with the second seat over there. Which other driver on the grid has faced that in such a short period? Also, if you want to put Yuki into the category of drivers who may lose their seat, I'd first put Sargeant, Stroll and Guanyu before Yuki. Put some respect on his name, please.
Yuki is a Honda-backed driver, when Honda leaves so does he Also, Stroll? Wishful thinking. Zhou is underrated, as good if not better than Tsunoda, sadly he’s stuck at an actual backmarker
I hear you. Though I wouldn't be to quick to replace Yuki considering how much time they've invested in him as a driver. In spite of what I've said above, admittedly he didn't come to the team the driver he is now. But here they are and so far they haven't proven very successful with replacing Gasley (I know the video isn't about Yuki and now I feel I'm going down a rabbit hole 🙂). @@Duval-In-The-Wall
U forgot to mention the two terrible French drivers that should be delivered baguette 🥖 on back of mopeds in Paris rather than in F1. 10% of grid is le'miserable
@@roryjacobs6817 Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Gasly would love his seat back, Alpine has gone down in a ball of flames Red Bull don’t care tbh, they aren’t interested in Tsunoda for the main team. Honda was the main reason he got multiple seasons They’ll just keep cycling through drivers until they get what they want, there’s Lawson (who has been pretty close to Tsunoda’s performance) and then Hadjar, Marti, etc.
@@Duval-In-The-Wall actually, the Strolls have com. under pressure by fellow Aston share holders especially after last year when one driver was carrying the team. Honda will join Aston Martin and I am sure Tsunoda's name will be mentioned when that time comes, cause I feel Alonso is going to retire after this season if no other team that can win the title comes for him, while stroll might get bored of it, remember this is Lawrence pushing his ambitions on his son.
I have to begin to wonder if Yuki's outbursts and mistakes are a result of feeling like he has to drive above and beyond what the car can do just to get the time of day from Red Bull's bosses. Meanwhile, Daniel Ricciardo just has to look pretty and smile for the cameras, and he's the team's darling.
Having watched him since his F3 days I can say that’s not the case. Yuki gets frustrated and angry in cockpit when he percieves something to be unjust or unfair.
Nah man he has been like this ever since he joined the team in 2021 and gasly definitly wasnt as marketable as daniel. Its just that yuki is bankrolled by honda not red bull. Hes a bargaining tool for them to kind of have some power over red bull and rb. That doubles the pressure especially given honda are soon moving to aston worsening their relationship
@@Johnfortnite1102 No. Honda and RB paid half each for Yuki's F3 and F2
lol that doesn't seem that farfetched of a scenario now that you mentioned it
The fact that he even got a seat is just a PR thing for F1 these days. Its all about the Netflix thing. There are so many young drivers who probably are amazing but wouldn't get a seat.
Nah Ricky is paid 300k for the year ....
It simple popularity brings in money if it makes money it make sense
"many young drivers" no, just Liam Lawson.
Ricciardo is struggling because he can’t adapt to the ground effect cars. It was overly apparent in McLaren and now again it’s apparent in RB. He wasted years in teams that did nothing for him instead of staying at RedBull. He needs to retire. He will be replaced before the end of the year.
Except he started strugglijg in 2021
Leaving red bull wasn’t the problem, leaving Renault was
@@darbstre29002021 he still was good enough to win a race and beat Norris at certain tracks in the McLaren he wasn't used to
I liked Danny Ric, but at this point he is the F1 driver who cried "bad car." I get him jumping from RB to Renault, but since then he really can only blame himself which is now evident to everyone given how Norris and Tsunoda have driven along side him.
I call BS. Christian said Daniel would have lined up on the front row next to Max (so perhaps 2... 3 tenths off at most) after his pace test at Silverstone last year. Where are you getting this information from?
It's easy to be a fan of Dan, hard to accept that he is past his prime. Sure, the margin of success in F1 is razor thin, but that is where the sport is these days.
His prime just felt very brief - and wasted. Makes me wish he stuck at it in Red Bull and got to enjoy a piece of what Max has had.
@@Nikelaos_Khristianos “Very brief” as in 7 years?
I don't think he's past his prime necessarily, he just doesn't put the work in that other drivers do. He parties too much between events while other drivers like Max and Lando (and others) are racing in simulators at work and at home. Studying their race performances. CONSTANTLY honing their skills. You could tell it frustrated Lando when they were teammates that Daniel just didn't take his position seriously and just expected the car to change at some point so he could start winning again. Lando pulled off a few great results in that "garbage" car while Daniel was nowhere every race, every time.
@@biggusy25 people hate when you bring this up... Daniel just wasn't as serious as other drivers in his prime years. He ultimately made a bad decision in his peak but I also don't think he would've kept up with Max, at the rate Max was improving. He would've been 2nd in that team and given the way his confidence wains and affects his drive, there's a real possibility he goes down hill even worse. I just think if he would've accepted that he was better off in a mid place team getting money and being number 1, he could've kept the developmental team with Cyril and he would've had a car that didn't win, but kept him relevant a bit longer.
Easy to be a fan? Dude is so annoying lol
In the races that they have competed against each other, Tsunoda is up 6-4 to Riccardo even including the team orders swap in the first race. In qualifying the head to head is 7-3. For a Red Bull audition that just isn't good enough. If I was applying for a promotion but was being outperformed by someone 10 years my junior I would be laughed out of the building. If this trend continues then don't be surprised if we see Liam Lawson back in by summer.
Ngl, seeing a driver that we know is really great, kind of fading away is really sad. I am somewhat of a new F1 fan so I had never been this close seeing something like this happening, it’s a terrible feeling
Danny ric has been my favourite driver for ages. It really hurts to see him not at his best anymore.
Tsunoda’s probably still scarred from the Bahrain team order which is why he decided to turn it up a bit more
Nah Daniel is a has been
@@robertlee6338 Daniel is a never was
So new logic for Danny fan base is Yuki has obviously gotten so much performance due to Daniel being there. Same as last year when they were saying Daniel was responsible of all the input on their upgrades late in the season.
Still can’t understand why anyone is surprised. Daniel’s personality has kept him in the spotlight but as a driver, he peaked at “promising” ages ago when all the stars aligned just right. At his best, he was a promising driver who had a bit of success many years ago, on a different team, in a different era of the sport, competing against a different field.
shut up he is a great driver
@@AllisterOlsson You're very much mistaken. He's always been overrated. Every single one of his race wins were down to lucky circumstances. I listed all eight reasons in my other comment on this video, if you want my reasoning to back up why they were all lucky wins.
@@paladestar9758 "Always been overrated" Yes the man who was touted to be a future world champion and wasn't because of Mercedes' dominance, was overrated. If Daniel has always been overrated, what does that make Leclerc or Norris then? Because those two are doing what Daniel did back at Red Bull, and Norris hasn't even won anything.
His career says otherwise. 😂
@@paladestar9758 He wasn't overrated when he was delivering the goods for Red Bull, but he stopped developing and has not kept up with changes in the sport. The stuff that worked for him 7-10 years ago doesn't cut it now.
Yuki is a great driver, and I do believe he will stay in RB until RB stops using the Honda engine. Ricciardo is and always has been struggled to adapt his driving style to the new car. Both Lando and Yuki could do that but somehow Ricciardo just stucked, it's hard to watch.
Lawson is so well-spoken, he could be a marketing machine in his own right
Yuki ‘Destroyer of Teammates’ Tsunoda
😂
Of course.. his car is Honda powered, they will always tweak it just enough for him to scrape ahead.
He'll have to change that name once Lawson gets the seat..
@@chumleykhahaha what?! Ric fans are just pathetic lol
Except Gasly, where the reverse is true
Tsunoda is just a better driver than people give him credit for and is better than Ricciardo in 2024
He went through a lot of growing pains, but unlike Mazespin has actual talent. Why is Zhou still in F1 and Sargent. They both are terrible and full of excuses in their interviews afterwards.
Most fans don’t update their views to fit facts. They’re stuck in 2021
@@michaeldellorso889 please elaborate
@@jbruderthuh? Zhou is Solid. Just a ghost personality otherwise Hes always pushing that car as much as bottas does. Remember that bottas Was one of the fastest drivers a few years back. Zhou is definitely driving his moneys worth
Yup. Yuki responded to the pressure from Helmut Marko - which is very hard to do. Yuki was lucky to get extra time to prove himself, but he's payed off extremely well.
I'm beginning to think Yuki is just faster than everybody thinks. At this point if there's anyone I'd like to see up against Max in the RedBull it's him.
He should have went to Haas when he had the chance, that seat would put him lesser stress than racing for VCARB RB , his ego destroyed him thinking Haas is not good enough for him
What pisses me off is the amount of second chances this guy got based on his charisma and past achievements, meanwhile other arguably faster drivers got binned so much quicker.
He really only got 1 “second chance” the AT seat last year You can hardly call his 2-year McLaren contract a “second” chance, he earned that drive based on 2020
@@Duval-In-The-Wall most don't get a second chance like that, what's worse to me, is how Daniel turned his nose up at any team he deemed lesser, like he only belonged in a number 1 car and that's a wild entitlement to have given how utterly poor he was and how much money he demanded.
He got a second chance because of his record in the past winning races and dominating against teammates like Vettel, Hulk, Ocon, etc.
@@Duval-In-The-Wall2020,2021,2022,2023 the dude gets Chance After Chance After Chance and is always disappointing or mediocre at Best. Get it out i want to see lawson and not this slimey Ass Clown. First he Leaves redbull because of the junior driver and now he tries to suck up to him
@@petouserhe got 3 chances already and Mclaren rather paid 20 mil than let that dude drive any longer and Hes still stealinf the seat of lawson in a Team he shouldnt be in. RB is a junior Team jeez
people need to rate Tsunoda more, he is not some kind of meddling driver he is a very young driver compared to the rest of the grid and still has room to improve even more. He has a lot of potential still untapped.
I think you mean "middling". I agree with your point though.
Yuki definitely has talent. It's his mentality that's the issue, he's still too immature, and lacks any control over his emotions
he is takuma sato v2, a bit less crashes, a lot more swearing
Honestly the problem with some of the older drivers are facing (I.e. Hamilton and Riccardo) is probably them not being able to adapt to the new regulations of cars. Riccardo seems to validate that position, but if Hamilton doesn't get to grips with the Ferrari next year, their time in F1 is up because they cannot adapt. I'm actually impressed that Alonso isn't facing this issue...
Alonso has been consistently digging out decent performances out of dog shit cars, he's a driving genius
DR is an example that some drivers just need really good cars to be really good
Reminds me of Butch from Pulp Fiction. Marsellus telling him: right now you got ability but ability don't last. That's a hard mfing fact of life. If you were gonna make it, you'd have made it by now.
It would appear his best racing years are behind him. These ground effect cars appear to be his kryptonite. No shame in it just unfortunate he appears unable to adapt.
Starting to think the same about Lewis
2021 wasn’t ground effect and he was struggling then
@@johnbeer4963 There might be something to that. George has had a better handle on the problematic Mercedes cars but his lapses in focus at key junctures have cost him dearly. Next year should remove any question about Lewis's ability to drive this generation of cars.
@@twincam20mr2021 McLaren was still an understeer balanced car (like the ground effect cars tend to be) which he does not gel with at all
AT shifted the downforce balance rearwards in Abu Dhabi last year with their floor upgrade, he prefers the pointy front end and unstable rear like Max does. However unlike say, Piastri and Norris who have been on record saying how the McLaren drives isn't to their liking either, he seems unable to adapt to this balance. Similar to how Vettel struggled with cars after they lost the blown diffuser and he couldn't just launch out of corners anymore, it seems his peak performance window is extremely narrow and specific to how RBR built their car.
Came for the comments. Not disappointed at all. Well done everyone lol
Being a ricciardo fan is hard 😂
Words.
Indeed.
It has been hard since he started wearing yellow. He might have a hefty bank balance these days but turns out he threw it all away for nothing!
Not being a fan is even harder. The Money Badger was always overrated, even at RB back in the day. His wins comes from a dominant car. He was the Perez of his era
@@PC_Ringo yellow?
I still think Lawson is very clearly the best Alpha Tauri/RB driver we have seen since Gasly. Really, really impressed by his raw speed & temperament
Imo Lawson looks even better than Gasly, just a gut feeling. But last year's Singapore GP was no easy tasks, and the boy dealt with it like an experienced driver. Also when he entered Super Formula in 2023, he had pace right away.
Can't fully judge someone by one good performance. De Vries comes to mind, even Stroll has had great performances.
@@sirmounted8499 but, unlike De Vries, Lawson did 5 races and actually beat Tsunoda 2-1 (not counting Singapore and Monza retirementes for Yuki). At least to me it didn't look like a flop but he actually had pace right from the start.
Gasly is the definition of mid. Lawson has the most potential out of all the RB juniors since Verstappen. Not saying he's anywhere near Verstappen. He just has the potential to be fighting for wins.
Lawson is still 2 tenth behind yuki. But yes is better then ricciardo
I remember there being a discussion where Nico Hulk struggled with the 2014-2016 regs of cars and did poorly but then did ok once 2017 cars were introduced (pardon lack of solid examples), I think we have a similar situation with DannyRic where the understeery characteristics of the car completely go against what he knows and the feel he has. Tsunoda is also younger and more adaptive than DannyRic who had years to find his own way of driving succesfully, which no longer applies. There is no need for debate if hes washed or not as there is too many factors and the team should simply decide if they wanna keep him or not
Horner is the Jerry Jones of F1, hanging onto a player a season or two too long. Leading up to the Japanese GP, Horner was asked why Yuki doesn't get a look for the Red Bull Racing team, considering that Nick DeVries, Liam, Gasley, and Riccardo, all was thrown into their sister car, Alpha Tauri with the intend of moving them up to RB, yet Yuki has done nothing but beaten all of them. Horner responded "with Max, we want to have the best combo (teammate) as possible for 2025", then Horner dived into his feelings for Riccardo "I almost had a car accident when he (Riccardo) called to let me know he's leaving us, I believed, had he stay, pairing with Max, we could have won many more titles". No mention of Yuki.
Yeah but realistically, take your Yuki stan cap off, he hasn't done much, he's in his 4th year of F1, no podiums, no wins.
He's a multi-millionaire by his own design, however, he has failed to complete any contracted years at any teams. Not rbr, renault, mclaren or likely his current team, rb. Ouch!
I'm a long time fan of Danny Ric but it is beyond time for him to go. It's been so long since he's been any good & every time he switches a team or comes back he's super hyped up just to never ever deliver. No more honey badger.
I don't think he's washed, he's really feeling the heat from Yuki, and he does see his seat with Red Bull slippin away with each race he gets out preformed in and now with guys like Liam or even Carlos being a free agent at the end of the year that may take the spot. And on top of it with all the expectation of him to be the better driver for the team... without a doubt he would be feeling the pressure, and he does need to step up if not there is a high chance this may be his last season in F1...
Yuki has a lot of raw speed and would be a great pick for Aston if alonso went elsewhere
From Alonso to Tsunoda, what a fall in grace...
No
@@quentinhirschfeld9382yeh of course he isn’t better than alonso, but in terms of a realistic pick for them he is still a good option
He would be a great pick as a team mate to Alonso maybe... But definitely not as a replacement. I think if Alonso chooses to leave, then Aston may become interested in Carlos, assuming he is available by that point. I definitely think Aston should get real and let Lance go. Think of all the points they didn't score last season because of Lance's mediocrity. The only times he finished ahead of Alonso were times that they were both going to finish 9th and 10th because the car was slower than other cars but better than the worst, and Alonso let Lance finish 9th instead of 10th so as to not completely humiliate him.
I really doubt. If they lose Alonso they will try; 1 Sainz 2 Bottas 3 Gasly 4 Albon 5 Tsunoda
I just don't think Ricciardo's ever been all that serious compared to other drivers. It seems for other drivers, this is life, they want to win it all, even when they are in their worst drive. Ricciardo has been more interested in building a brand and catering to US viewers of which he seems to focus the bulk of his attention. Ricciardo just feels entitled more so than yearning.
I disagree with that. Ricciardo was very serious about winning at Red Bull but he let his ego and celebrity cloud reality. He was called by many around the paddock and the media as a "future world champion." The "last of the late brakers" nonsense too. Ricciardo thought he was destined to be champion and that's why he left Red Bull for Renault because he believed it was all him and if he had works backing as a #1 he would win. He was proven very wrong.
@@RAZGR1Z I mean maybe pre-DTS fame... sure. But he always struck me as not that serious, not only the joking but his intent in being a world champion and the toll of doing it. I.E. Max learned every component of the car, in contrast Ricciardo loved to party in Monaco and there were reports he didn't take sim work all that seriously.
The only thing that surprises me about Ricciardo is that he has a drive this year and was called back last year.
Could it be as simple as Ricciardo not being as good as everyone has always made him out to be? I personally never really got the impression that Ricciardo was ever a driver capable of winning oodles of races and contending for championships other than impressive campaigns in 2014 and 2016. When Max got his feet under him properly from 2017 it was never really a discussion who was the better driver and who was going to lead Red Bull forward.
No, ricciardo was never the fastest driver but had the best racecraft I’ve ever seen. Danny ric at his peak was closer in speed to a slightly faster Sainz. But now he is unable to drive to his strengths due to the heavy, sluggish new cars.
2017 was peak Ricciardo. He STOMPED Max that year. They had equal amounts of bad luck.
@@FiremarioflowerVerstappen was a rookie 😂
I never rated Ricciardo. I thought he was done after his McLaren stint. There are several F1 drivers that should get the hook...Ricciardo, Sargeant, Stroll. F1 - "the 20 best drivers in the world". That's a joke.
Ricciardo deserves the 'De Vries' treatment at this point
100%
I'm sure Helmut Marko wouldn't hesitate to give him the same treatment as De Vries if he continues performing the way he is - but something tells me that Horner won't let that happen to Daniel.
Nah because Ricciardo's return has already been way better than De Vries last year. RB needs his experience and its clear that his input is paying off. It's no conicidence that since Ricciardo joining the team, Alphatauri now RB has turned into a points scoring team. Unfortunately for all the Ricciardo haters, he is going to be backed by the team and most likely given the whole season.
Exactly it’s time they show him the door…
@@baydos602 Ricciardo is a 34 year sold driver with over 10 years of F1 experience, of course he's going to do better than a rookie like De Vries! De Vries got done dirty, the dude was just 3 tenths away from Tsunoda (and was clearly getting better) on average and he didn't even had a full year to prove himself. Tsunoda scored 1/3 of Gasly points in 2021, got destroyed in qualifying, despite this, his seat was never at risk. Nobody is a Ricciardo hater, he doomed his own career by leaving RB and so far he's having lots of extra chances just because of his past and PR presence.
I prefer Lawson in the seat. I never liked him being back. He has had his chance. After hes been in the Mclaren its over. To say he didnt do well in groundeffect cars, naaah. His test in Red Bull was fast.
that was only a test
And how much did Horner spin the test in Daniels favour
They need to dump the older drivers anyways... F1 was much more exciting with rookies every year.
@@BobbyGeneric145 That's also due to the new economical settings (put in place by the terrible gestion of Bernie Ecclestone, on which Libert carried one) and the lack of teams.
It has been painful to watch. He was fantastic in Red Bull, swapped to Renault when it seemed RB had engine problems, then for some reason went down to McLaren. Now he is in the Minardi it has been a painful almost reverse Mark Webber career progress.
He's past it, simple as that. It's a shame he's taking up a seat that Lawson or someone else could be in. That he's able to con the team into backing him shows how persuasive he is.
Maybe, maybe Tsunoda is just way better then everyone gives him credit for...
After they gave him more years than your regular rookie gets
That’s cause Honda sponsors him. A Japanese driver with a Japanese engine. When Honda is gone yuki most likely will be to.
Sure, but, as a person who really likes both of them, it's obvious that Ricciardo would demolish Yuki is he was somewhere near his 2014-2020 form
Maybe. People are happy to say that he is fast. It's just his childish emotions and mistakes that people have a problem with.
@@sergioferrero46 or maybe he's just utterly incapable of adapting to the ground effect cars regardless of his "current form" and people should stop making excuses for him.
Imma be blunt and say what I think of Ric since his move to renault, Ricciardo is a plublicity stunt, and not really at the level of the rest of the midfielders, he's entire carrier is a disappointment with some "oh look, he's been less shit this time" moment throughout
Good reporting and analysis. 🎉 Cheers
I don’t see lawson beating tsunoda in a normal race weekend without tsunoda’s unbelievable bad luck even if he replaced danny. He’s too fresh for yuki’s form this year.
Honda is still supplying RBR & RB engines through 2025. Yuki’s continued solid performances since last year and to date + factoring his youth and his best effort to stay calm - either RB retains him in 2025 or another midfield team will sign him up if not wanting to sign a rookie. BTW part of F1 driver’s paycheck is his/her skillset to adapt and/or afjust to pecularities of F1 car. Of course no car and/or driver is perfect. However, F1 driver especially in a midfield team can’t have this “prima donna attitude provide this kind of car to my driving style etc.” The degree of hubris and/or chutzpah of DR3 to say stopwatch is wrong after his abysmal qualifying last weekend is mindboggling. For a multi GP winner, he shouldn’t be making rookie mistakes such as exceeding track limit or spinning by himself. Unfortunately F1 with Horner adore RB3 so they’ll continue to make excuses on his behalf. Sainz deserves the RB seat, even Checo + Yuki deserve the RB seat- def not perennially underperforming full of excuses lacking critical self examination DR3.
Ricardo is holding Liam’s career
And Horner to an extent, he's the one who wanted Ricciardo over Lawson. Hows that working out?
@@liukin95 Clearly very well considering since Ricciardo joined the team, his input and experience has ultimately made the car point scoring and a Q3 contender.
@@baydos602 Ricciardo is notoriously known for not being a great driver when it comes to feedback and leadership. RB hasn't made significant progress when he drove for the team (in fact, thet actually started delivering more when he quit), neither Renault or McLaren.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382they started delivering more when he quit because they got rid of the cursed Renault PUs.
Oh darn. We have the age old problem of too many drivers not enough seats. What ever could we do?
That picture of Danny and Yuki side by side was like a dad taking his step son to Disney land 🤣.
Occam's razor: Because he isn't as good as we all think (or hope) he is. Pains me to say it.
The biggest elephant in the room is Ricciardo's age. 34 years old! Sebastian Vettel retired aged 34 years old after many years of underperforming at Ferrari. Meanwhile, Tsunoda is 23 years old.
34 is not old for an F1 driver. Hamilton, Schumacher, Prost, Mansell, and Lauda were all champions past that age.
If age was the problem Alonso and Hamilton should have retired years ago. He just clearly can't adapt
Lmao, tho vettel got beat by leclerc in the last 2 seasons, saying he was under performing is quite a rash statement.
@@Nefus1988 people need to realize that not all drivers can be Alonso (mainly), Hamilton or Schumacher. In every sport it's perfectly possible, and it happens all the time, that some athlete has an early peak and then it gradually fades away for no reason. The "car excuse" has been masking it up for Ricciardo because in F1 you can always blame the car but sadly it all comes to surface sooner or later.
Terrible comparison. If Vettel underperformed for years, that means Leclerc also underperformed for years. Ricciardo left the sport for consistently underperforming whilst Vettel was dragging the slowest car to the points many times before he announced his retirement. It’s all in the head and Ricciardo clearly hasn’t had any motivation to find the solution to his problems
Great personality. Subpar F1 driver.
Lance Strolls "Rolling" will never not make me laugh
Ric’s engineer salaciously eyeing the big red ejection seat button that has the obligatory “Whatever you do, DON’T push this button!” sign ext to it with each passing week. With a great, young driver in Lawson waiting in the wings, it’s time to pull the trigger, and that’s coming from a (former) Ricciardo fan. The big Aussie smile just won’t cut it anymore.
The best of Daniel is in the past. Liam Lawson deserves that seat!
Why ? No one deserves jack shit. He can sit and wait his turn
@@Chris-sf2cp It's all these drive to survive fanboys that change their opinions after one race. They'd get Lawson in there, and then start hating on him when he doesn't do as well as they thought.
@@FordHoard Lawson beat Tsunoda in the pouring rain at Zandvoort unprepared and without knowing the car, then he finished 11th in Italy (with only 2 retirements), then got in Q3 in Singaporeand scored points, beat Tsunoda by schooling him in terms of race-craft in Japan (a track he discovered) and just made one mistake in all those 4 races. He was also few points away of being champion in Super Formula.
@@Chris-sf2cp As good as Théo Pourchaire in F2. Almost champion in his rookie season in Super Formula (just like Gasly). Beat Tsunoda 3-1, egotinto Q3 in Singapore and scored points. So yeah, he deserves that seat, firstly because he established himself in others categories, secondly because he did more than Ricciardo in just 4 races.
Agree with Yuki”s speed and talent. He is very underrated in the public eye and deserves a testdrive in the RB 20 to show his speed. Must be politics to not promote him to RB.
One word answer is: Tsunoda ! The most underrated driver by far.
'Most underrated' Lol, the dude got beaten 3-1 by an unprepared rookie last season, was on average (tthat's a fact, it's datas) just a bit slower than a off-prime Ricciardo last year in terms of race pace on average and is put by some in front of guys like Gasly (who destroyed him), Ocon and even Russell.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 where do you source and manufacture your "facts" ?
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 CRAP arguments. Get a life, jokester.
Charles is the most underrated. As is Ocon. Tsunoda is definitely also deserving of that label.
@@ducedevlstear2471 Statistics extracted from datas. Ricciardo was indeed on average just slightly faster than Tsunoda in the race. And the 3-1 for Lawson is a straight out FAX.
I saw a video a few days ago where they made the point that being the “last of the late brakers” paid off in 2014 but that driving style does not benefit anyone today and is in fact not the way to drive with the current rules and regulations. You don’t see Max driving that way.
and i saw video about Hamilton being a late braker and he also struggle
@@kubhak yeah now that i think about it, i remember that video of hamilton telling a story about his dad would stand closer and closer to a corner where hamilton would brake when he passed his dad. maybe it is just all down to driving style
Ricciardo being the 'last of the late breakers' is a common misconception, he only did that to pull off some great moves. In actuality his driving style is a lot gentler on the brakes then some. That's why he struggled in the McLaren which required a hard, late breaking style.
that is true simply because these cars are perhaps not super fast on straights but able to go super quick in medium to low speed corners because of how the aerodynamics work, meaning that you almost get nothing out of late braking since speed at the apex is more important
The specific point being made was that being quicker on the throttle out of the corner was more effective than high entry speed and hard braking, U vs V the corner is not rewarding as it used to be.
I really hope he can turn things around
6:26 If i recall correctly, that was because he had a visor that caused "significant downforce loss", he coped with it without knowing the issue during the race
What's wrong? The guy has a statue of himself at his Dubai mansion, he shows up to races on a horse, he's constantly partying and going to sports games, etc. He surrounds himself with so many distractions and has never shown any hint that he wants to dedicate himself to the sport 100%, and is happy to just be the court jester. With an attitude like that - that he can get results without the work and sacrifice - he's never going to do well.
I didn't know about the statue. 😂 House looks amazing though.
That's exactly the problem. And the Daniel meat gobblers lose their mind when you say this. He doesn't want to put in the hard work to become a better driver. It's just that simple. He's just a buffoon and he should really go to NASCAR where he'll fit right in
He thinks he can jump into Redbull seat immediately because Horner and Max like him 🤦♂
To be fair, at least he doesn't have a museum about himself like Alonso, but other than that completely agree. That horsey thing was terrible.
@@ab8jeh To be fair, Alonso has done things to warrant a small museum.
Daniel doesn't put in NEAR the effort off the track that other drivers do. He's stuck in the mentality that drivers of old had where they would smoke, drink and party between races, and that kind of attitude toward the sport just doesn't fly anymore. Other drivers spend literal days in the simulator between races, they are constantly honing their skills, reviewing their race performances and scrutinizing every 10th of a second they could have saved, or every lap where they could have saved their tires just a little bit more. Lando said Daniel would reserve entire floors of hotels and throw ragers all night. Do you think Max, for example, participates in that kind of over indulgent party lifestyle? Not a chance, and that's why Daniel is never going to catch back up to the pack.
Max is just on iracing until 4am the night before races 😂
Shhhhh
I would say that's true but you don't have to live at the track and the sim to win championships. Historically that is a fact. Ricciardo lost his ability to drive at the limit.
@@RAZGR1Z Golf is an example, John Daly was partying all night and hung over when he teed up with, super fit, super serious, Tiger Woods, in a Tournament, and beat him by 4 strokes on that round, lol.
I think Daniel only can deliver if everything is perfect around him. He need to be in The RedBull team to have the right feeling, feeling at home to deliver. That is what Drive to survive episode showed me compared on what we see on the track after that testing he did in the RedBull car
It's crazy how many drivers RB have, which they don't actually want.
It is what it is, don't perform you are out.
Unless you have a yacht full of sponsorship money.
I don’t get why tsunoda doesn’t get the praise he deserves. Mega fast driver.
Maybe because we was beaten by Gasly for two years in a row. In 21 Gasly got triple the points, 22 double. Yuki is very fast but he doesn't have the mental strength/capacity to deliver consistently enough over a season. Makes too many mistakes in races and behaves like a teenager.
Because Yuki is very average. His attitude is garbage. He's only around because of Honda and to be used as a measuring stick for whoever RB puts next to him. He is in no way "mega fast."
He is inconsistent
@@johnj8069not yet
@RAZGR1Z he is actually fast according to qualifying times
This is how it's going to go: If Max leaves RBR, he'll go to Merc, RBR will be Sainz and Checo If Max stays at RBR, it will be Max and Sainz VCARB will be Lawson and Yuki or Daniel or Checo depending on if Max stays and how well Daniel does. If Daniel or Checo takes the VCARB seat then Yuki will take a sabbatical for 25, teaming up with Aston for 26
0:59 I love this graphic!!!! It's really easy and insightful
From what I understand, the newest ground effects cars with their necessary anti dive/squat suspension geometry have no feel/feedback that many drivers rely on. Therefore they are always a half step behind the car waiting for information that never comes. The successful drivers seem to be the avid sim racers used to driving cars with no tactile feedback. The lack of feel is something they're used to. It's known Daniel just isn't a sim race guy and he's paying the price.
Interesting. You think this could explain why other older drivers are struggling too? Except Alonso who's exceptional l.
He has spent thousands of hours in the sim.
He was eating dust in 2021 when the cars were still flat bottom. McLaren gave him a completely different car and he got even worse.
That’s a really interesting point. However *many* of the race cars I’ve driven (an SCCA Mustang in particular) had very numb, vague steering. You don’t really get a lot of feedback through the wheel - it’s all in your inner ear.
I think his "prime" was more an unlikely event rather than him actually being a genuinely good driver. He had a lucky run, but the lack of performance started to appear while he was in RB, not when he moved teams.
He had a 6 year peak from 2014-2020, that’s not an unlikely event. Imo he was a talented driver who had the problem (a serious one that is) of needing the car to specifically suit him (I.e be more balanced towards oversteer), which wasn’t apparent until he jumped into the McLaren which was more of an understeer balanced car. The ground effect cars tend to be more understeery as well which doesn’t help his case. The Red Bull is known to be one of the few very pointy cars which explains how Ricciardo was able to impress Horner enough to be given a second chance at testing, but at this point it’s possible that his inability to adapt has sacrificed his peak ability in a car that suits his driving style
Sainz will be at Red Bull next year and Lawson at RB. It’s the most logical scenario, both drivers would be an upgrade.
His problem is in qualifying. He doesn't trust himself or the car enough to take more speed into the corners. His race pace is actually decent and has make up a few positions from his starting position. The VCARB is certainly not a rocket ship so he HAS to convert on qauli if he's going to score points. I love him but he has to pull his finger out now.
Checo also has an issue with qualifying but you can be sure he'll be overtaking most of the cars by the end of the race in most races.
the "AGAIN" in the title loll
"Still" would be more accurate
Here's an idea; Danny is doing good, 12-15th best driver. Just that Yuki is a top 10 and consistently underrated.
TOP 10 driver? That's assuming you put one those, Sainz, Leclerc, Hamilton, Russell, Verstappen, Piastri, Norris, Ocon, Gasly, Alonso behind him. So far, he hasn't proved to be better than those drivers, neither in raw result or dominance over teammates (got comprehensively beaten by Gaslky and immediately matched by Laswon).
No disrespect to your opinion here, but 15th best in a field of 20 is not good.
yes yuki is a little underrated and danny is where he should be with the car
Only quick solution I see is a 1 race chassis swap. A few years back, Mick had a cracked chassis at haas that they hadn’t noticed so surely that would be a good troubleshoot.
VRBC is a radically upgraded car over the previous season. So far, this year, Danny has not managed to master the new format and has not managed to unlock the car's full potential. Over the next 3 races, Danny will overcome this problem & retake the team's lead.
Although theRace tried to lobby him, we should think that he is already a retired driver
He’s over staying his invitation to Liam Lawson’s seat at this point tbh
George and Lewis have the same car but George has been more consistent over the last few years although one can easily argue Lewis is a better driver based on his career. Same goes for DR and Yuki. Yuki is driving well and has adapted and DR has failed to adapt to his car even though he had been a better driver over his career
Don't get the hate and an ultimatum doesn't make people all of a sudden start performing better, im sure it's probably the opposite. He got the seat back because of his performance in the RB19 test which was pretty close to max's pace from what I remember (in the DTS episode) so its not as if he's all of a sudden 'washed' as the ametuer team principals in the comments suggest. Obviously, if after 10 races there's no actual improvement then revisit it but it's a very long season and Lawson has been guaranteed a seat for '25 so they should just chill and see how the next few races go.
Finally a grounded comment
Ricciardo just has a great personality that everyone loves but he can't back it up with great driving capabilities but his personality gets him farther than most drivers in F1. I would be sad to see him leave F1 for a second time but it's looking more and more likely with each race... If yuki can get his emotions under control then I do think he has potential for getting into a top contender car at some point in his career.
I wish I had a homie like Christian Horner
When one hits those mid 30’s most people begin to lose that ‘edge’, the fearlessness that drove them to the top of their sporting career. Other priorities such as families and staying alive, start to become more important. If you look at the other drivers, there is only Alonso who somehow defies that paradym. Even Hamilton as great as he is, has struggled in the last couple of years. There is less than a couple of seconds between first and last in qualifying and that makes a difference.
Lawson shouldn't have been kicked out of the car last year. He was a young driver learning at a junior team and delivering what was expected of him
I just don't see how he is not worse than Lawson, everyone is waiting on some sort of huge return of what was already a mid driver at best
The drivers unable to cope with less understeer suffer more from the heavier cars. In Ricciardos RB days he was throwing the car into the corner to create rotation at the rear. Later in the corner controlling it with a less pointy front end (understeer -> tires sliding -> slower and bad for tires). Because of the lighter cars suboptimal setup and "driving style" weren´t exposed that much. Now we have the heaviest cars ever, creating more load on the tires than ever, resulting in more tirewear, when over the limit. That´s why Verstappen thrives at the moment. He can drive the car at the optimal point between under- and oversteer. No one else is capable of this.
That’s interesting POV.
All this, can't adapt stuff, is just proof of inability, in my opinion. I'm old enough to remember F1 Drivers jumping into all sorts of cars, and winning. Multiple F1 Drivers have won Le Mans, during their F1 seasons, in the past. In the early days of Indy Car, they had DIRT speedway races, as well as Oval Speedways and Road Courses, as part of the Championship. Jim Clark, famously, used to tear around in a Lotus Cortina in Touring Car races, and tragically died in a F2 car. Not only could the Greats of the past successfully deal with different handling characteristics, they had to deal with completely different cars !
I'll make this very clear and simple.... DR and MV have very similar driving styles, both like a 'pointy' front end, this means they can brake a lot later, turn the car quickly and get back on the throttle.. This becomes pretty obvious when you take the Silverstone 'test' that DR did in the RB19 into account. What he's got in all other cars, doesn't suit his style. They seem to tend towards understeer and most of his teammates (LN and YT in particular) are suited to that type of set-up.
Thanks for sharing.
PAIN. PAIN. PAIN GODDAMINT DANNY DRIVE THE CAR!
You good?
someone call Maxtac we got a cyberpsycho
Uh, that's what he's doing. Unfortunately it's not working very well.
Tsunoda's doing what?! 9:11
well done
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