In this video, JB goes over the vital issue of being able to spot fake EOTECH products. We take this very seriously, our end users rely on our optics as life-saving equipment and fakes do not offer the same quality of performance as genuine EOTECH optics. If you have ANY questions as to the validity of your optic reach out to us to ensure you have the genuine article.
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Clones are getting better and better.
I'm glad Eotech made this video. I've seen some of my friends almost fall for the "cheap Eotech" scams so now I can just show them this video.
Your friends have a two digit IQ then. Bless their hearts and souls.
Thanks for making this video. I wish I knew all this 2 years ago, when the one I bought, yep, ended up being a clone. You live, you learn. But, all is not lost, I bought a REAL EOTech from PSA when they were on sale, and demoted the clone to my .22lr rifle, since that recoil won't kill it, and I can still train affordably with a similar set up. But, the real EOTech 512 sits atop my Colt now, so all is good. I am really surprised at the number of gun items cloned. Optics, lights, flip up sights, stocks, etc. It's crazy.
Just received a fake EXPS2 from Amazon for $600. What’s also peculiar is that the Amazon store appears to be an official EOTech store somehow. Regardless, mine had several of these tell-tale counterfeit clues: red and green selector, visible LED projector, “for law enforcement uses” inscription. Also, brightness was not adjustable (up and down buttons did nothing) and there was an “NV” button that’s only supposed to appear on the EXPS3 (night vision model). That button toggled the color between red and green. Also, the reticle was not what it was supposed to be. Luckily, Amazon has a great return policy. I just went ahead and bought another one from Primary Arms.
Thanks bud. very helpful!
I got a used xps off a vet and so far it’s looking real. Only thing is that it’s really really dim. I have to use max setting to see it in the day time. Any thoughts? Is it a old model?
Which are your guys reliable distributors?
Glad I came here before buying. Amazon almost got me.
A lot of the clones are being bought becuase the Airsoft community for them is HUGE. EOTECH if you want to prevent these clones, then produce a "clone" yourselves specifically for airsofters. Just make sure its engraved on the side of the device. And charge the same amount that china is charging for them. Hell you can probably call them up and buy them directly from them. That if not more than anything else, would buy you a shit load of respect and loyalty even more than you already have. And you guys would be hailed as the innovators who beat the chinese cloners. Promise
They can't do this because then people would realize that these things can be made for 100 bucks and they're getting rich off of us.
@@Theyoufeelme LOL no kiddin there guy. There is probably 10$ in materials used in these things if not a little more with the most expensive thing being the good glass for the lens.
If only cloners made real publics that competed on cheap.
Airsoft players are the scum of the earth. Without them there wouldn't be fake MAWLs or Eotechs.
@@Theyoufeelmemmmm idk if I believe that, I mean obviously they have an okay margin that’s something you are afforded when you win mil/le contracts cuz people want the duty grade shit. But as far as holographic sights go they’re pretty much the only one besides the Huey and that’s not nearly as ubiquitous, that’s making holographic sights, also they pride themselves on precision and quality assurance and repeatability enough that I’d trust em if they told me is what ends up costing the most, these sights aren’t nearly as simple or robust as led dots can be for as cheap. I only own one eotech btw and as far as a sight goes it’s not really even that cool for me but I like the product it speaks for itself. Plus no matter how tf broke I am I still like the exclusivity and quality that you get when you purchase something expensive that’s also duty grade. If everyone wasn’t so cheap about everything, and so ready to buy a trash version of a product cuz it “looks the same” and only costs a 10th as much. And actually took pride in what they owned a little more all of our stuff in our daily lives wouldn’t be so borderline disposable and planned to be obsolete quickly. And we could have more unique stuff I think anyways, bc people who actually want to come to market with a quality original (insert item here) will be able to put the money in to produce it. Instead of everyone just buying the same shit from china and rebranding it as something different or putting the led in 10 different aluminum housings for example and then letting 10 companies come to market with 10 original red dots that we don’t find out are all the exact same shit until we own one or two lol
what do u think about the skw optic clone and the holy warrior clone that got released this september? both work like a real holo and are half as expensive as eotech
I love EOTech they are the best that money can buy and an all out great American company plus customer service is great as well i told my friend to watch out for the counterfeit some are getting hard to spot and I told him to buy from EOTech directly he didn't listen and ended up with a fake i told him to report it to EOTech counterfeit Department that he had bought a fake and EOTech ended up hooking him up which was really great that they did that for him maybe next time that fool will listen to me 😂😂
Hmmmmmm seems like the 60 dollar EOTECH clone i bought is indeed a clone.
Yea they are usually 400 bux! Clones are fine for the money, but if you want that edge, bragging rights, genuine article then obviously you have to cough up
Lol. Use that mofo. You paid clone price and got a great sight. You didn't pay retail and get a fake. Hopefully you got one of the new clones . They are flawless.
This is good info for someone that wants to make sure a used or Amazon shipment wasn't faked. As for people wanting to buy a clone for their airsoft or .22, take it as a compliment. Yeah, they're only as good as a Chinese made red dot, but for a fun red dot that looks as cool as the real one, well, you probably aren't losing any market share..
I was sent a fake eotech from Amazon and could not return it. It’s been 2 years and it’s going strong, holding zero after a lot of sh$t..
Positive it’s fake?
@@completemoney oh most definitely
I just bought one from amazon. How could you tell the one you got is fake?@@Rorschach_theghost
A few months ago I purchased an Aimpoint Comp m5s. I am here to make a public apology, and I will do everything within my power to sell it, and then purchased an Eotech like I should have in the first place. haha.
I take my eo techs like I take my milk . Straight from the source .
I take mine straight from China and I shoot the difference in ammo. They've worked great so far. That late 2023 version is flawless.
@@realtyrocks1969 traaaasssshhhhhhhhhhh....... be a man with principles ffs
@@havenbanks5778 eat a pee pee.
man if im having trouble telling if my clone is real then i dont see a problem
You will soon enough.
Have there been older Eotech models (Like before 2010) that did use other batteries than AA or CR123?
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Regarding the sight picture, do the reticles on EOTECHS tend to be blurry on the real ones, even at low power settings? Or is that just a side effect of someone with astigmatism?
While Eotech aren’t as crystal Clear as some videos show They are still a very crisp reticle and some with astigmatism (like me) it will be a little blurry but not as bad as some. So yes A astigmatism will make it blurry somewhat
I too have astigmatism, and mine is 100% genuine Eotech, and yes without my prescription glasses on the reticle is a mess. With them tho its like he described. Looks like it's formed by thousands of small dots. Im guessing that's the laser being shaped into the image you see. No glasses, it's the general shape, but it's a fuzzy mess. And my eyes test 20/30, so not awful. The astigmatism turns it into what you describe.
Are fake eotechs still immune to parallax?
yes
i have a fake one and it is pretty much the same minus the reflection
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@@eotechinc is a fake indication can aslo be obvious, when you use it in real steel it will break or lost of sight or reticles will be damage because of the shaking when firing real rounds?
Not true. I've fired over 3000 RDS from one of my fakes and attended 2, 4 day shooting classes. No problems. The new ones that come with the magnifier set are flawless and eotechs knows it. That's why they have put out 10 of these videos trying to discourage you from buying . They know if you do , you'll be sold and never turn back to the real ones. There is one video on KZhead that the guy removed the screws to make it look like it failed. I will post a video soon showing how tough and reliable the new ones are. It used to Chinese shit but they have stepped up their game starting about October 2023. Seriously these new ones are flawless.@@docreggiefirefox4811
So i have an eotech that has the "for law enforcement/military use" on it. I bought it at the gunshop. But its clear, reticle is pixilated, has qr code and dates under it and the buttons are on the face rather then the side. I think its an exps2? Is it real?
Sucks I just purchase one from Amazon . On April 27 . Saw this video and mines is a fake one . Hopefully amazon gives me a refund or store credit . If not I’m ask out for $600 . Hope they punish the seller as well
Send us an email and we will go after them! www.eotechinc.com/help-center
@@eotechincthere is absolutely no way to prove that they received a fake. Wouldn't hold up in court. Could have been swapped after delivery. Cool story though bro.
Question regarding lense reflection: so a flashlight shouldn’t reflect the front glass? I notice there’s a “slight” light reflection coming from my iPhone. Can you please confirm?
Its a glass, of course there a reflection. They just use a coating that *decrease* reflection of part of the light spectrum, not all of it, and not 100%.
Though…. Some of those features may be a good idea to integrate into the EOTECH product line . Additionally, there’s other ways to ensure clones are harder to make . Have you looked into aerated aluminum ( aluminum foam ). Cost isn’t that much more. Machining is just as smooth- but, it is lighter- and more resistant to impact than aluminum. Prettier sure you could even have castings made to lower Cnc time .
but eotech is mostly plastic already? there is little machining time involved. only the outer shroud and mount are aluminum which can be made with extrusion that is a relatively cheap process.
How is that going to prevent replicas in ANY way at all? Of course theyre not going to use the same materials.
@@TheAceTroubleshooter you're so wrong. Aluminum is surprisingly cheap and the plastic parts are made same way. The new eotechs clones use a red dot system, not a holographic but the shell is 100% indistinguishable from the real. I've extensively tested the new one that comes with a magnifier and it's flawless. I have several thousand rounds through one that I used to attend 2 different shooting classes. Kept zero after running and shooting from prone etc. Even survived one drop. If course I didn't torture test it but I wouldn't do that to a real one either. What I do know is they hold zero and are accurate, bright, and have 2 colors which the real ones only have 1 color. I would trust my life to the new versions, absolutely. There is a reason EOTECH has put out about 10 videos recently talking about clones. They know the Chinese have stepped up their game and they are extremely worried. They know that if you try the new clones you won't turn back to a real one and the word is spreading fast.
I don’t see any light “reflecting” but I can see a light bulb in the lens when I’m standing in front of the bulb. Is that normal?
Chinese got those actual holographic clones now, not powered by leds but lasers like the real one, and the price range is quite similar too. But at the end of the day, these clones are made for airsoft, just open your eyes while purchasing.
Yep got to be very carful.
@@eotechincbe careful to not get scammed by paying for a real one. We know the Chinese are stepping up their game and the word is spreading fast. I used a fake for 2 shooting classes and shot several thousand rounds with it on my rifle. Flawless and held zero. So be careful of what? Careful of overpriced sights and CEOs not getting their yearly bonus? I'm sold on the fakes but I see you're putting out a ton of these clone videos lately. Maybe with enough hope you can convince enough people to not try them. That's the only way I can see you be valid by the end of 2024.
A coworker of mine heard that I’m in the market for an Eotech and he told me he could sell me some of his dad’s old ones. As soon as he told me that the reticle and color could be modified I remembered this video 😂. I told him switchable reticles are fake.
How do you tell a fake G33 magnifier? Is Bereli selling real eotech?
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Where did he get that shirt?
But i want fake eotechs, thanks for showing me how to find them.
BUT! What if you knowingly bought a fake Eotech for your awesome awesome 0.22 pellet gun...does that make me a bad baddy (what if there are no ,logos?)
2:59 If tiny tunable solid state lasers become a thing you might be able to build a switchable reticle color 🤷♂️
You can try to justify the ridiculous price of these all you want. If you're not going into combat, you can get an alternative that works just fine in home defense or plinking at the range.
Has eotech ever made the switchable colors?
Did you not watch the entire video dude? Damn.. attention span of a 2 year old much? No, they do not.
Another easy way to tell if it’s fake is look through the optics glass and see if there’s a hood hanging down kinda like a windshield visor. If it has it then it’s real. If it doesn’t have it then it’s a fake.
And there is chinese Holly Warrior that makes the best eotech replicas, i wonder how does this compare to them :)
Just went to Shanghai China where they had a LOT of these clones out. I’m not familiar with the rear thing, but looking down the sigh of the clone, I could tell, you’d just be wasting your money.
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🧢 I seen a few people review the fake one and they said they hold zero and really couldn’t tell the difference.
He is correct when it comes to electronic eotechs. Purely mechanical ones like magnifiers are much harder to spot. As a matter of fact for shts and giggles I bought a g43 magnifier clone to compare to me eotech and man is it good. I mean really good. Nothing on it to make you think it’s a knock off other than where there is a QR code on the eotech, the clone is using a standard eotech logo in its place. I tested them both by throwing them, putting them in my pool, seeing if they hold zero and a bunch of other things and you seriously cannot tell the difference. If you notice on eotech stuff it says assembled in America which makes me think they get the parts from overseas and I think this clone is using genuine eotech parts straight from the same factory in china. Sometimes you get lucky with a good clone but for the most part the more advanced it is the more likely it is to be no good, especially when it’s something your depending your life on.
I have a fake, you can see the led through the front and the front glass reflects light.
I can’t believe I’m watching this video now. I got a fake holo took me a year to realize. I got the real magnifier but just found out my Holo that I spent and arm and a leg is a clone. guess I’m saving up for a real one. 😢
ok so how do we spot a fake magnifier? im going to have to buy another brand because i have no way to verify the magnifier is real.
You really can't. They are indistinguishable and another great product by the Chinese. The new ones are flawless and come with a great sight too. The set is $100 and even if the sight gave up (unlikely) you still got a magnifier for less than a real one. It's a great buy.
I thought it was because it doesn't cost $700.
Is it ok if I use a fake Eotch for my airsoft gun?
Yes, of course.
No one cares what you put on a toy gun
What about Ur competitor Vortex Strikefire II ? It's a not over $200 I love mine. I'm ave Joe who can't own EV Tesla but every day Joe who has old to🪀🪀 Matrix. So I can't able to spend my hard earn dinero on over $600 to $800 on red dot. Oh yeah 4 3X magnifi I choose Primary Arms 3X wide and get there side flip mount all 4 undee $300.
And the logo looks like a knockoff on that HWS. How about Vudus?
Sounds more like an ad for what clones can do and eotech can’t
Should have used the same old school style setup from the old old old video 😂
Some of the knock off ones you can’t tell the difference at all 💥👌🏽
LED reticle source should always be visible.
That's why they are doing these videos. They know the fakes are almost as good and they are going everything they can to stop you from spending $100 and spend $800 with them instead because they know when you do, you'll never buy another real one again.
I doubt the people intentionally buying knock-offs would actually buy the real deal instead, they'd probably just buy another 50 dollar sight instead, these ones just have the look they want. There's real benefits to actual holographic sights, and I imagine when China figures those out, things are gonna get crazy.@@realtyrocks1969
Visible "led" light signature can be seen on max brightness in a real EOtech
This is why made is America is so expensive. You are paying for quality not quantity so don't be cheap and buy the real shit 👍
The fakes are damn near as good for 1/10 the price. I'd rather spend the difference on ammo and let the CEO skip his bonus. Sure you get to make a CEO happy and pay for some healthcare to employees but you're aren't getting much more for your money in terms of product. The word is getting out fast. The new ones are getting good.
@@realtyrocks1969 Remember the fakes one are only rated for paintball guns. They can't handle the recoil of a real rifle. I know cause I bought one on eBay and tried it myself. 👍
The left one in the thumbnail is a holoson the right one is a Eotech 😂
HAHA no...
Not sure what he's talking about with only AA or 123's being their product. Eotech made N battery versions too, 511 and 551.
Paid $750 for a fake on amazon lucky for me I got my money back
ill take the fake over the $800 sight any day....money dont grow on trees ... though apparently at the reserve in does
I have a counterfeit sight, a piece of crap, does not stay on, changes color on its own, miss ed target at 25yrds, after bore sighting, junk
Hi. I got an eotech online from a retailer here in europe, the retailer is optics-world. The product looks legit but I see a strange thing: when I look throught the eotech (from the side I aim) if I look at it in an angle from the top I can see in the bottom of the eotech something that looks like a red glass ( I hope I could upload a picture).
Wow that's gonna be sus to find out which is real😂
The fakes are getting wild
What they mean is the fakes are rapidly approaching the quality of the real at a fraction of the cost. They are worried!!! I don't blame them.
Hello, please the language can be put in Spanish, excuse my ignorance is that I almost don't know English, I would like it to be translated into Spanish please.
But I can only afford the knock offs...
Go for it man. The new ones are leagues better than they were a year or 2 ago. I rock fakes all the time and they stomp.
And that’s fine. It means you don’t really need a real one.
I shoot at paper.
fake eotech are great for paintball and airsoft too . but they should not be sell as real brand and sell as replica only . whit something on it that clearly say is not a real one
But counterfeit items are illegal in the US and if you get caught it can land you in trouble
@@Tylorgng. these are sell in every airsoft store ....
@@Tylorgng.Wrong.
I've taken one of my clones to 2 rifle classes and shot over 3000 RDS from one of them. The new ones are amazing and held zero on 5.56 - I like having both color options too. That might have been the case a few years ago. These new ones are on a different level of quality and eotech is worried.
YES... PAY $600 AND YOUR A WEEKEND WARRIOR... WE JUST HAVING FUN... IF IT WORKS, IT WORKS.. MAYBE I WANTBTO FEED MY FAMILY...
So if you're paying less than an arm & a leg, it's a fake.
So if you don't make a CEO rich, it's gotta suck. Buy America dut dur. Really the new ones are awesome and the only way theyll stay relevant is if they can manage to convince enough people to spend ten times as much with them. They know the new ones are kicking their ass.
I know it's fake when I can afford it. 😂
just saved me from buying a clone for $179.
The $179 wasn’t obvious enough???
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I’m the first to like besides Eotech themselves
im looking at one on amazon right now for 53 dollars HAHAHA. i can tell its fake from the silver retention clips they are using on the wire on the frame. i will report it to amazon for youguys. i wouldnt, but they have your name on it. if they removed your name, i wouldnt care
This yahoo is cracking out videos trying to discourage you from buying the clones. Fact is I've tested the recent one and they are WORRIED because it's great. Yes, it's not a holographic, it's a red dot but the new ones work great, are tough, hold zero and are accurate. I bought 4 sets of these with the magnifier and paid $100 shipped. It's obvious they are worried about the Secret getting out. I own a few real ones and never again will I buy the real one. These also have 2 colors which these turds still can't do. These guys are probably shaking in their boots. If the Chinese keep going at this rate the next one will be better than the real one.
Okay.... but ledlight signature, CAN be seen on the real thing when its on the highest setting!!!!! Basically, it tells me one thing..... its a rip off to purchase the real thing for 800, when you can have it for a 100. The clone, has few things that the real thing should implement as well. Just saying
Would be great if you guys decided to lower your price... I cant see spending more for my sight than I did my rifle... sorry dude but palmetto state armory makes rifles IN AMERICA and can keep the price down so we know you can do the same... just seems once a company gets a military contract they think it's ok to bump the price 10x
You should really start serializing them and make a database
The Chinese will do the same. They'll pick about 10 legit serial numbers and use the same 10 numbers on all of them. Been done for years.
I wear glasses and when I look through EOTECH without them the picture is very blurry . is this normal or do i have a copy
You probably have the real one. You wouldn't have that problem with a fake. Lol