Did The Montreal Canadiens Make The "Wright" Choice When They Drafted Slafkovsky?
2022 ж. 9 Шіл.
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Steve, Jesse and Adam discuss the decision made by the Montreal Canadiens to draft Juraj Slafkovsky 1st overall. Do you think they made the right pick?
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That first Seattle @ Montreal game is gonna be interesting.
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Meh. caufield will score a couple. habs win.
If wright actually is on the team, he's good but that doesn't mean he's NHL ready. Could be a 2-3 year wait for him even on Seattle
@@davidireland85 :)
@@whitegd4100 fax
As a rangers fan, gorton knows what he’s doing...
No he doesn’t. That clown drafted Lias Andersson and Vitali Kravstov. They are terrible. Kakko as well, disgusting
@@AustinMLGSnell XD, also ur name LOL
@@AustinMLGSnell He literally built the core that made it to the ECF. Cope
@@AustinMLGSnell Kratsov will be a beast, Kakko is still young to call him a bust
@@AustinMLGSnell oh no he made mistakes how could he???? It’s not like he’s humain too 🤨
The kid was the MVP at age 17 at the Olympics playing against adults. Let that accomplishment sink in. How many other players were MVP of the Olympic ice hockey tourney at age 17? APPROXIMATELY how many. lol
idk but I trust Gorton and Hughes after the moves they've done at the trade deadline and at the draft 😄
well yeah because no nhl players were there
@@camangot9376 there were over 20,000 games of combined nhl experience between the Olympic players. Quit acting like he was playing against scrubs.
@@ianspottiswood2419 They were scrubs. Remember, even active AHL, ECHL, and IHL players were not free to play. A bunch of either hasbeens and neverbeens, playing on newly put together teams. That's why any team could beat any other team, because none were actual teams with quality players. This isn't a post hoc analysis, it was obvious both prior to the tournament and during it. Germany, Denmark, and the Swiss had bigger names than Canada and the US.
That's not the big thing, it's his WC that was truly impressing. Much better players in that tournament, combine both and you know Salfkovsky is going to be solid. Will he be the best of this class, possible but either way both him and Wright are going to have great careers no doubt.
Montreal can only pick one player and apparently Slavkovsky was living on his own and cooking for himself playing hockey in Finland at a very young age. Plus he played in the Finish Professional league against men in probably the most defensive professional league in the world bar none. Plus he's a house and skates great with above average hockey skills.
so we took a guy that can cook by himself? pahetic
@@Simonsays48 XDDD
@@Simonsays48 I hate the Habs I'm a Leaf fan and I can tell you that they had sound reasoning for taking Salf at 1 and its not culinary skills. His point was he is more ready to step in as an adult that aside. They knew they were going after Dach who plays Center. So they knew they would have Suzuki who is also a right handed center like Wright and Dach. So they now in theory have two lines with Suzki and Cole then Dach and Slaf. Or you can have Suzuki and Wright. These things are all p.o.v. so time will tell but again the theory here is sound
@@Simonsays48 I like how you ignored everything he said and just took out one little part out of context to either try to be funny or look like an idiot but you succeeded at both.
@@Simonsays48 At 14. He went to Finland alone at 14 and was cooking himself. What does that mean? That's he's hardworking and willing to make sacrifices. Very good qualities for a hockey player. He also told Hughes that what he likes most about hockey, is when is at the end of a game when is team is winning 4-3 OR losing 3-4. This means he's a competitive guy who won't give up. Again, a very good quality.
McDavid with the death stare at the draft balls was fuckin hilarious, poor guy... Sorry
I think they got the right one. Time will tell.
I hope so
Something we won’t know till 5-10 years in the future but as of right now majority of scouts had him at one so I geuss it was the right pick
Steve, I NEVER was able to watch your main show, only because it's not the kind of content that I like, nothing against you! But every single time I catch you having normal discussions with others about hockey, I absolutely LOVE it. I do not understand the appeal of your main show, because it's just... Too much. But otherwise I could listen to you all day! Very very knowledgeable as always, and a perfect host or guest. Give us more ! :D Take care man, and congrats for all of your success!
Honestly no way to know until 2027 or so. It will be interesting to see how the pandemic distributed normal draft projections
Hi, Seattleite here. In terms of Seattle's rival, we can't stand Vegas. They're like the (slightly) older sibling that we're constantly compared to who had a flashy first season compared to our bust of an inaugural season
Your season wasnt a bust. Kraken are trending perfectly. Vegas was different because 30 other GMs didnt know what they were doing.
@@rona6063 Yes, in hindsight, losing all those games set us up great for this draft and eventually led to us getting Shane and people are starting to take notice now, but all throughout the season every single color commentator would go on and on about how great Vegas's expansion season was and joke about how the kraken are losers and it drove us crazy! Hopefully things will change now that the kraken's future is so B-Wright 😎
@@lindsaymccormick63 Its fine. The other GMs learned from their mistakes during Vegas' expansion drafts and the same oppurtunity wasnt there for Seattle. But on the bright side, Vegas was gifted a Stanley Cup caliber team and 3 picks in the top 15 in the 2017 draft and they pissed it all away slowly over the last 3 years constantly chasing every Free Agent available. Beniers and Wright are the real deal and your team has no crippling veteran contracts on the books. Seattle will be good as soon as Francis decides the kids have developed enough for him to spend cap space on free agents.
@@rona6063 100%. While Vegas's window for winning a Stanley Cup is closing with their aging core and limited cap space, Seattle is just getting going and could be really good for much longer with the young guys we have in the system.
@@lindsaymccormick63 if there’s any plus you could take out of it you got the guy who supposed to be the consensus number one without having to burn one of your two lottery wins in five years. Also I never understood the comparisons between Seattle and Vegas because Vegas had teams make some of the dumbest trades I’ve ever seen and Seattle just never had those opportunities.
Habs needed a 1st or 2nd line center. That was their top priority. They were going to pick Shane. The only reason they chose Slafkovsky instead is because they made the deal in secret for Dach. They did what was best for the team, they got a winger for their top line and a 2nd line center. All they gave up was Romanov, although he is good he is only a 3rd pairing guy in their core of D men. Habs win this draft and the trade in a huge way. Hughes is a wizard. Shane Wright will be a monster and I'm sad they didn't take him but bidness is bidness. Cheers
Well said
I honestly would've prefered if they drafted Wright and still made the deal for the 13th overall pick and kept it. I'm not too keen on Kirby Dach. Yea he's young and the potential is still there but I'm not sure if he'll ever reach it. There is a reason why the Blackhawks had no problem trading him away. They see something in him that Hughes and the Canadiens haven't yet. They could've drafted Kemell, or Lekkerimaki if they still happened to be available at that point which would've still given them a young winger to develop. Do they have the size? No but there is always next year when it comes to drafting that big power forward they want. Having Wright/Suzuki at 1 and 2 would've set them up for years in the Top 6. I love Suzuki but I see him more as a 2nd line Center more than a first.
@@LurchyScott Last Centreman Chicago traded to Montreal turned into a pretty good deal for Montreal! I think lightning can strike twice. I like the fact Dach is tall and can skate well. We'll see what happens once the dust settles! ;-)
@@LurchyScott The Blackhawks also had no problem selling DaBrincat cheap. They're in stupid scorched earth tanking for Bedard mode. It was very smart of Hugues to target them with a trade. This year's draft was pretty weak, 13OA isn't that great, while Dach is still only 21, and already an established NHLer.
Well, how are you feeling now?
I have a Adam Fox signed Canes puck and prospect camp poster from his brief Carolina career 😆
I mean I think they got a good player at first and that's all you can ask
Slafkovsky has played against MEN and established himself as some1 who can play against MEN. Wright on the other hand has dominated, but against TEENAGERS. People kept saying that Jack Hughes is going to be an immediate superstar in the league because he dominated against his own age but still not seeing superstardom, he's getting there slowly though, getting better etc, but i dont think he shouldve played in the devils right after the draft. tbh same goes for kakko who went #2 that year, they wouldve been better maturing in euro leagues for a year or so like auston matthews did before the draft
If Montreal can get a top 5 pick next year then I don’t think they will regret taking Slafkovsky because 4 of 5 are centres and all of them would’ve gone over Wright this year. Montreal is still gonna be near the bottom next year probably and they’re throwing their pick into the draft lottery, it isn’t impossible that they win one of them again (The only rules that they can’t win it more than twice in five years). If this situation were to happen they would much rather Slaf because what are you gonna do if you get Suzuki, Wright and One of those Centres? (For example I’m using Adam Fantilli) It would be much better to have Slafkovsky-Suzuki/Fantilli-Caufield ?-Suzuki/Fantilli-? Then ?-Suzuki/Wright/Fantilli-Caufield ?-Suzuki/Wright/Fantilli-? ?-Suzuki/Wright/Fantilli-?
Excellent observation, the habs were looking way ahead
I really thought for a second that Wright could be a flyer. Probably the best for him though
Time will tell
Slaf is a beastt
we will know the answer to this question in about 5 years
until then it is all speculations
Yes
Theyre different players. I have no doubt that Shane Wright will put up more points then Slafkofsky, but the habs have a big, bruising forward that is going to be hell to play against. Going to be interesting to see where these two stack up in a few years
He isn't "bruising" at all. Wright will hit ten guys for every one Slafkofsky will, and his will be accidental.
Very well said! I don't know why people think this will be a comparison-contest of just "points", because one of Slafkofsky's key roles will be to make way for Suzuki and Caufield to shine and work their magic.
@@stupidas9466 ummm okay...
Well, well, well…
Habs wanted Slav and a center because there was lots of centers Cooley, Nasar, etc ,etc and if he had slav on his wing would be better and there is only one Slav they made him #1.
How many pucks has Zadina buried in the Habs goal? Exactly. Wright has an Eichel-esque mentality that will be toxic in the lockerroom until he overdoses on humility.
Thats how I felt about him. He wasn’t even in the nhl but had a big head. Some of that is ok. Too much is bad news.
nice way to phrase it lol!
Um didn't you hear them say in this podcast that Slafkovsky said before the draft that in 20 years he would be the best player from this draft? How is that not the same as how Wright thinks of himself? Let me guess Slafkovsky is confident but Wright is arrogant.
@@dcz2899 yes.
@@dcz2899 The difference is that Wright said he deserved to go first overall because of all the hard work he put in. This makes it sound like he feels like it’s a right (pun intended) instead of a privilege. Slaf on the other hand said he wants to try to be the best in 20 years which implies he’s going to put the effort in to make it there. It’s a small difference but I’m assuming something happened in the background that we don’t know that caused this to happen because of the death glair and liking hate comments towards Slafkovsky on Instagram etc.
Sorry but McKenzie was not the first on Slaf going first.
Yes, they did.
I think Wright going to Seattle could be the best thing that could’ve happened to him. he’s the face of a franchise which doesn’t have any benchmark for what a 1st has accomplished. he’ll be the one to set the bar as high as he can without pressure.
Pronman wasn't first. It was Grant McCagg!
Word is NJ tried to move down when Slaf was picked 1st. Which would mean they weren't focused on a Dman.
It is bad practice to draft according to your needs. Always take the best player. You can always trade or sign someone in free agency for your needs. Getting the best player available in a draft certainly helps for the former.
Hope Wright has a career like Bergeron..
Hope Wright gets flattened by Slaf first time they meet! :-)
yes. yes, they did
The Bo Callahan draft
And there’s so many similarities between Callahan and Wright
I don’t think they made the wright move. It’s one thing to almost break an ex write bike. But can he break bones on the ice when others fight back? It was the wrong choice. He’s a dud.
Slaf and his teammate Filip are going to kill it in Montreal. Right choice Robert. You'll see.
@@rickmartin4886 uhhh ok. 👀
When Wright learns about taxes he will be a happy man.
In 2 years from now we’ll have a good idea if they picked the Wright one… 😡
Steve Dangle doesn't know the definition of the word tumult.
Kids didn’t play hockey in Canada for 2 years. I wouldn’t have picked Wright and Slafkovsky played against men during those years and was successful ! Easy pick !
Lol they got Dach. Going by that I say they messed up. No Slavkosky is the real deal.
common. how is it not " did the habs make the wright choice"
Let's hope he's not a Nail Yakopov. ... yikes 😬
The problems that Yakopov had was that he just never tried and relied on natural talent alone, he never tried to improve anything bad in this game but Slafkovsky looks like a workhorse, He didn’t get here off of sheer talent.
You did get it wrong. It was mackinnon and drouin. Florida surprised everyone with the Barkov and Tampa stupidly took Drouin over Seth Jones.
Well they got Sergachev in the end, so no big deal
this video was pointless.... Did Mtl make the Wright choice ? 15min of nothingness
Well they needed a top 1st or 2nd Center so by not picking Wright and Trading Romanov I think they did great 👍
Grant Mccagg was the first to have Slaf at #1 and he got destroyed and abused 9n Twitter because of it. He also had Wright at 4.
He also had Laine over Matthews and is still pulling for Bustaniemi. McCagg has a history of overvaluing big players. Modern NHL makes this thinking an absolute joke with the number of 5'9-5'11 superstars. This nonsense led to 5'11 Makar going 4th.
@@robrick9361 Sure. Just pointing out that Mccagg was first.
Why am I having visions of Patrik Stefan and Doug Wickenheiser?
cause mushrooms are not the way to go
The whole "there were x mistakes before me" tends to not play out too well for the man who says it lol
Downvoted for promoting betting sorry :/
Montreal did not make the WRIGHT choice !
NJ always wanted Slafkovsky, thats why the Habs took him, probably because NJ wont want to deal with the Habs.
GHG
Wright has no class and he's an arrogant self centered ego maniac who according to scouts, isn't even that great. 🙄
What scouts name one. Yeah same could be said about Michael Jordan coming out of College. 😂😂
Isn’t that great. Wtf planet are you living on.
@@nofear8673 lol... earth apparently. What planet are you living on? 🤔
@@0canadiens81 Your team has 10.5M comitted to a washed up goalie for 4 more years, drafted a sex offender last year, and just hired a coach with 0 coaching experience. Stop worrying about Wright, your team has bigger problems.
@@rona6063 if we would've drafted wright, that would have been one more. A bullet dodged.
Mark my words, Wright will light up the league. Unfortunately, Habs picked a boom/bust winger over a safer pick with Wright. If it wasn’t for the Dach trade, we would’ve picked Wright, a perfect 2C, and continue the proper rebuild. Dach has been underperforming, almost a bust a this point, feels like this was probably the first mistake as a GM for Kent Hughes.
Wright wasn’t the safe pick, he wasn’t drafted first because he doesn’t have the same work ethic, and doesn’t exactly like defending. The reports said this....
@@Chyeahokay Shane is way more complete. He will be a better player than Juraj. Sure Juraj is more dynamic and explosive, but Shane is more complete.
Wright has to really start showing it though cause he hasn't looked dangerous.
Shane did really bad in his interviews and blamed his teammates for his lack of intensity this year. He wouldn’t have been able to handle the mtl media with that attitude. As for Slafkovsky, he probably isn’t the best right now, but time will tell if it was a good decision. imo, it is, he’s a big forward with lots of pride and intensity and I think he’ll be great with Caufield and Suzuki.
@@davidireland85 He had a slow draft year, true, but his hockey IQ is off the charts. Always so well positioned and making great plays.
I don’t think so
Shane Wright dodged a bullet. Seattle will be better than Montreal for the next 5 years
All the picks Montreal had, and they really dropped the ball.
elaborate.
@@pixelj4877 the guy probably thinks that they can get 1 st round draft pick for a 8 th round pick and a bag of pucks like on nhl games
I think MTL will live to regret passing on Shane.
If Montreal can get a top 5 pick next year then I don’t think they will because 4 of 5 are centres and all of them would’ve gone over Wright this year. Montreal is still gonna be near the bottom next year probably and they’re throwing their pick into the draft lottery, it isn’t impossible that they win one of them again (The only rules that they can’t win it more than twice in five years). If this situation were to happen they would much rather Slaf because what are you gonna do if you get Suzuki, Wright and One of those Centres? (For example I’m using Adam Fantilli) It would be much better to have Slafkovsky-Suzuki/Fantilli-Caufield ?-Suzuki/Fantilli-? Then ?-Suzuki/Wright/Fantilli-Caufield ?-Suzuki/Wright/Fantilli-? ?-Suzuki/Wright/Fantilli-?
@@slipperynodd578 good point. Hopefully they tank again.
@@edgarbenjoseph3879 oh my God someone who’s actually reasonable and can actually think about what other people say when they don’t agree with your viewpoint without getting mad, you sir are a legend
@@edgarbenjoseph3879 I do agree with you though passing on Wright is definitely gonna sting but I hope it works out in the long run
@@slipperynodd578 haha I feel you, lots of angry people on the internet. You made a really good point that they might tank again to get another top 5 pick next year so I had to give props lol
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