Combat-Helicopter Pilot Rates 8 Helicopter Scenes In Movies And TV | How Real Is It? | Insider
Former combat-helicopter pilot Vernice "FlyGirl" Armour rates eight helicopter scenes in movies and television shows, such as "Black Hawk Down," for realism. Armour was America's first Black female combat helicopter pilot and served two tours of Iraq.
Armour discusses the accuracy of helicopter scenes in "Mission: Impossible - Fallout" (2018), starring Tom Cruise; "Spectre" (2015), starring Daniel Craig; and "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier" S1E1 (2021). She also comments on "Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle" (2017), starring Dwayne Johnson; "Hobbs & Shaw" (2019); and "Black Hawk Down" (2001). Armour analyzes the reality of air-to-air combat in "Rambo: First Blood Part II" (1985) and "The A-Team" (2010).
You can learn more about Vernice "FlyGirl" Armour here:
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Animations for this video were created by Andrea Schmitz.
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Combat-Helicopter Pilot Rates 8 Helicopter Scenes In Movies And TV | How Real Is It?
Moral of the story: it can’t be realistic if Dwayne Johnson is in the movie
The Rock bends reality by his sheer manliness.
well he was a scorpion, pulled into a game. that should have been you first guess it wanst real......
hey, atleast he didnt use duct tape to fix the heli
It's why the word 'Jumanji' will only ever make me think of Robin Williams.
He is thiiiiiiis close to be a cartoon character himself.
"If there is a helicopter helicopter dogfight, something has gone DRASTICALLY wrong."" Classic!
Especially in the point and click Apache. If the gunner can see it, the gunner can kill it. Airwolf seemed to get in a lot of dogfights when it could go much faster than many of the vehicles chasing it.
I believe it's only happened a few times in recorded history, with all of the heli vs heli dogfights occurring during the 1980's Iran-Iraq war when Iraqi Mil-Mi 25 Hinds (I don't know the specifics of the Mil-Mi 25 version but can only assume it's a later development or international export version of the more famous Mil-Mi 24) and Iranian AH-1J Sea Cobras (I believe an earlier version of the aircraft that the pilot in this video flew) periodically stumbled upon one another. Despite being radically different gunships, they probably both did about as well as each other with the AH-1J's scoring victories when they were able to sneak up on the Hinds and with the Hinds doing dramatic damage when doing full frontal attacks. Though not quite the same, on account of the target copters being transports, Iraqi Mil-Mi 25's in the same conflict also scored 43 kills against Iranian UH-1 Hueys.
*Iraqi Mi-25 and Iranian Ah-1 has entered the chat*
So I guess we can say that the Iran Iraq war went terribly wrong.
This is why for the past 3 decades the US Army Beats the US airforce on force on force simulations.
In every helicopter scene I'm amazed at how quiet the helicopters are and how the passengers can have a conversation without having to yell.
unless they're sitting on their helmets to protect their balls... :D
i was surprised the first time i went on a chopper after only seeing them in films before that. pretty much screaming in my sister's ear right next to me and her like "what? i can't hear you"
I can promise that they are not that quite 😂 if they have the headgear on and is attached to the ics in the helicopter, that’s a different story
Check out the one with the coastguard, this actually comes up - somehow a diver can be clearly heard during a storm when he shouts from the water to the helicopter 😂
My experience is only limited to lessons in an R22 Robinson, but I was perfectly able to hear my instructor telling me not to be such a little girl while practicing my hover 4 feet off the ground as I was scared my rotors would hit. She was all of 5/2 :P Anyhow it was easy to have a conversation, I realize that not all helicopters project the same amount of sound.
What a professional pilot! No bullshit, clear explanation. Awesome!
ofc,because she is a professional pilot, not an actor nor rapper
Interestingly enough, what she explained during Rambo about the crew chief instructing the pilot to turn a certain degree to give the door gunner the shot, this was actually done in another movie she talked about; Ridley Scott’s Black Hawk Down. In the scene, the pilot catches sight of an RPG team and tells the gunner crew. The crew chief tells him to turn 45 degrees, he does and the gunners pepper the RPG team with a mini gun.
Total Pro. As you put it.
Yup, she has that professional pilot's superfat chronograph watch.
@@tomasbeno1593tf does a rapper have to do with this 😂😂😂? You can’t tell me that didn’t have some racial undertone …
This lady is so charismatic, I'm sure the helicopter she flies generates lift by pure respect for her alone.
😂
:) this was top notch comment. And I agree, she is very charismatic, you wouldn't want to mess with her :)
😂
soyjacking over diversity hires
@@gamingarchivez1203 She did mention the red bull helicopter, though, so...
“Sometimes we couldn’t carry a full load of fuel because of a all the rockets and missiles” is one of the coolest things anyone has ever said
had a briefing from a coastie crew, and one of the comments was "we may have to leave some gear with you if the patient is too heavy, or we may have to fly away for a few minutes and burn up some fuel."
That statement really highlights how ridiculous that scene is lifting a truck and six other cars. I mean there’s artistic license and there’s insulting the intelligence of your audience. This is why I’ve become jaded by cgi action scenes. It has become a parody.
Just to put into perspective for helicopters most people probably don't know, is sometimes helicopters can't even take off with a full tank of gas depending on the altitude, and heat. In the Middle East for example it's not strange for a helicopter be loaded with only half a tank and not even a full load of armements (Depending on what weapons they are using). The reason is because the hot air has much less lift and density to it, and the altitudes in the middle east, even when not in the mountains can be pretty high from sea level. This makes lift a real problem for helicopters out in the middle east.
Well that’s kind of like saying you couldn’t afford to wear pants because you spent so much on a nice coat
@@AquaticMammalOnBicycle more like saying you only had room for two twenties in your wallet because of all the hundreds.
Black Hawk Down is as real as it gets for helicopter scenes. Those were actual pilots from the 160th SOAR flying and real Rangers from 3/75. She was right about how slow it shows them spinning, in reality it was a lot faster. Mike Durant said they started spinning instantly and so hard that they couldn’t even reach up to shut the engines off to eliminate the torque. The ground and sky just blurred together from how many G’s they were pulling… Highly recommend watching his interview on Jocko’s podcast
Black hawk down was by far the best helicopter scene I seen in Hollywood movie, hovering, fast rope all of that good stuff. I can rewatch that movie over and over again
Soar? Ranger Seal Delta
@@peterpecsenye9792Special Operations Aviation Regiment
Engineer here. A few corrections here For the james bond scene, there are two wrong points. 1- you dont HAVE to load the rotor unless its a semi-rigid rotor. She's flying a Super Cobra and what she said applies 100% to that as mast bump is a pretty a quick way to go down. But on a fully articulated rotor (like on AH-64) or a rigid rotor system (like BO-105) CAN handle zero or even negative G loads no problem.. 2- While most helicopters CAN unload the rotor, its a bad idea from controllability perspective anyway, without any net lift from the rotor, a helicopter (with a single rotor) has no roll and pitch controllability. That is why helicopters do BARREL roll. You can't do normal roll on any helicopter because helicopter with a single rotor has no means of directing lift asymetrically same way a fixed-wing aircraft does.. But *every* helicopter, even semi-rigid ones can theoratically do barrel roll with different risk factors involved. Stupidity of the plot aside, barrel roll with a BO-105 is not only 10/10 realistic, its so easy and they probably did without any CGI effects with the same helicopter they've already rented. Also at 6:22, those are LAU-61 rocket pods. They don't carry 26 rockets, they carry 19. For Rambo, they've modded a Puma helicopter to look like an early variant of Mi-24.. Because it was 1980s they couldn't just rent a Mi-24 from Soviets.. After Jumanji, IMHO this scene was the most unrealistic one in whole series. If a Mi-24 took-off with intent to hunt a UH-1, it can carry up to 4 R-60 air to air missiles or depending on variant, 4 or 8 Igla-V air-to-air missiles. and since UH-1 in the movie don't carry flare dispensers, chase would end before it begins. Even with the shown loadout, a Mi-24 will have 4-barrel Gattling gun with 1400+ rounds at its disposal. Puma in the scene don't have gun, or lets assume gun is out of the question... AT-2 missiles at wingtip pylons are SACLOS guided so can be used againist helicopters. Even if for some reason, Mi-24 pilot wants to use rockets, in the movie he carries 4xUB-32 rocket launchers. So he has 128 57mm rockets under his wings. He wouldn't fire one every 10-15 seconds... He would just spray those rockets onto the UH-1 without getting too close, watching those rockets fly and adjust his aim. Think about it; firing 2 rockets every half-a-second, he has more than a minute worth of firepower... Scene is very cool and amazing to watch because it was shot with real helicopters with zero CGI, but how real? Its still 1/10.
And the Jumanji scene doesn't really count as it occurs inside a computer game, so it's computer game physics not real world physics.
Didn't the early (or some) variants of the Hind lack the rotating gun turret and instead have a side-mounted fixed gun?
@@Tuulos I beleive it's the opposite for the Mi-24 family: They had a below the nose rotating turret but switched to bigger, but fixed, guns afterwards.
Yeah I agree with the rotor loading thing, I a little doubted when she told that. Because as I remember there was a legendary image that shows a Turkish Blackhawk turned upside down in the air at 90s. Probably it's near impossible in terms of piloting but as they succeed to do it with a Blackhawk, Blackhawk must have at least minimum endurance to counter that move.
@@Tuulos Yes , a gsh30/2 30mm and the new mi35 have a double barrel 23 mm in the chin
I was in a documentary with Vernice and met her at the Pentagon (when we were both still on active duty). She is the most motivational person I have ever met, and I feel enriched from having met her.
The Redbull helicopter was indeed used for shooting that scene in Spectre.
Was it? I thought they'd just taken another Bo105, i mean they all have hingeless rotors as standart and can do aerobatics.
@@book5ter it was the Red Bull one they did a bts clip on it I think
Oh ya…that’s why I commented she’s lying about it…that guy has a custom heli for that scene. You can easily find his KZhead videos were he does barrel rolls and tricks
@@ShawnLH88 That part puzzled me too. Blackhawks and Apaches can do loops and barrel rolls. Somewhat clunky, but it can be done.
@@DaveQZ85 Another common helicopter than can do aerobatic maneuvers like loops and rolls is the British Lynx. that is also the fastest helicopter, at something like 250 mph.
That helicopter from "Spectre" is an MBB just like the Red Bull-helicopter and it can perform the exact same maneuvers. The only other helicopter to do such maneuvers is the Lynx.
Any helicopter with the right power, the right rotors and a highly skilled pilot pretty much can. But only with all these things and at an exhibition. In combat with a payload and what should be a civilian transport, no. It's very dangerous and serves no purpose but to look cool. She doesn't know about a lot of helicopters, really just how to fly one and how to use one in combat.
It's not just an MBB like the Red Bull helo, it IS the Red Bull helo!
@@L.Pondera As both the German and the Swedish BO 105s were certified to do loopings and rolls with full compliment of TOW missiles, and that happen to be a BO 105... She also missed the fact Vietnam 1st Cav pilots cut the treetops with the rotor on regular basis to get in and especially out of tight LZs as for instance described in Robert Mason's "Chickenhawk".
And the AH-64 as well.
Yes , the British Army Air Corps pilots can do many things with the Lynx from loop the loops to barrel rolls , The Lynx i am pretty sure also still holds the record for fastest at 249 mph , British pilots are the best in the world The Red Arrows RAF , Blue Eagles AAC and Black Cats of the Royal Navy highlight the intensive training and skill that produces the best
I was there in 1993 during Gothic Serpent while in the US Navy. The movie portrayed exactly how things happened except for two things. 1. The US Navy's and Marines involvement. 2. The protracted acting within the movie to extend the scenes. The crashes were practically on point to what I saw, heard and seen during and after.
3/75?
I clearly wasn't there because I was born in 93 but that's what I was thinking as she said that. From my recollection, although not 100% accurate, for the most part the events that transpired in the film were very close to what did happen. Also, thank you for your service.
But even the pilot said it spun extremely fast. Movie slowed it down for dramatic effect. Just like it shows the scene for like 2 minutes happening. When in reality it was a matter of seconds.
@@PTRRanger951 what's amazing is in the second heli shot down, the actual pilot managed to slow down the spin of his aircraft and made a 'soft' crash, which saved the crew chief in the back, at least temporarily.
@@PTRRanger951 looking at the movie they show the actual video feed from the actual attack when general garrison is in the TOC
"It probably would have burned up his legs." She's makin good points 😂
I like the way she explains everything so clear and simple, easy to understand even the Physics behind flying a helicopter. Please bring her back for more videos like this.
She addressed some common misconceptions directly and effectively. IMO, the most important ones were: -- Heat-seekers pick up on hot engines, e.g. the exhaust tubes, not the hot gas itself. -- Helicopters work by "hanging" by the vertical shaft. With very few exceptions, they can't fly upside down and push against the shaft. Lack of aero-surfaces (wings/rudders etc.) means they're less agile than planes. They change direction by pointing the main shaft left / right / forward / back - but by far less than 90°. Consider the difference between a kid playing with a model airplane, holing it in his hand, and another hanging the same kind from a string. That's about the difference in reaction speed between plane and helicopter. -- Rotors aren't made of a single piece; unlike a fan, the angle of attack of each blade can change. For example, you don't let the rotor stop, you zero the angle of attack, or even go slightly negative, if you want to go down fast. That's faster and keeps the rotor turning. Once you want to maintain altitude, you set the angle of attack back to a positive angle. -- Rotors aren't very robust either. They are meant to support the weight of the helicopter without snapping in half, but foreign bodies tend to mess them up. -- Helicopters are generally not buit or equipped with air to air in mind. They're just not agile enough for that. Engaging in a dogfight with an attack plane (one that's meant for air-to-ground combat) is like bringing a sword to a gunfight. A helicopter is like a bent spoon in comparison.
Drink every time she says, "right". I'm sitting here with a retired army pilot, and he is screaming at the screen almost every time she speaks.
Too bad she doesn't know what she's actually talking about. Like claiming that choppers, other than stunt ones, can't do rolls and flips.... because they 100% can..... or the part where see says "they wouldn't be moving that fast"..... ummm yes they would.... because they did. Almost everything she said is wrong.
@@CRAZYUNCLE117 You can tell she's either an actor, a liar, a terrible pilot, or just VERY, VERY green. Almost everything she says is wrong to some degree. Some are just flat out wrong. Like saying that non-stunt choppers can't do rolls and flips when they 100% can.
@@darthollpheist1156 Probably another channel, like the guys that build underground houses 'by hand', that is just fake as all get out.
Man. NOTHING escapes her attention! That analysis is great stuff. Wow. Much respect. Total respect.
One of the best commentators ever featured in these videos.
Woooow, I’ve served her at 2 different restaurants in Atlanta. She has this same energy in person, a pleasure to be around. Never even knew what she did until this video.
What was the actual purpose of that comment. All the dude said was that he served her. Just say that its a cool mention and move on.
@@stephencarter7266 you better get back on your meds Dude, you’ve got some serious grievance and persecution issues which need addressing. The sister is killing it and you’re just not making a whole lot of sense.
@@stephencarter7266 "what is your major malfunction?" Cit Other than that, are you sure HE'S the one insecure of his masculinity? I'd call that projection.
@@stephencarter7266 what you just typed makes absolutely no sense.
@@stephencarter7266 I understood your implications the first time. They're real simple to grasp. He ain't feminine for choosing to be a waiter. It is a job as any other that needs people. Joining the military doesn't make you more masculine, just as working in a restaurant doesn't make one feminine. Your purview of the world in this regard is incorrect. There are other actions that denote what is masculine and feminine. You must not be aware of them. What I'm saying is what is the actual purpose of the comment? All he said was that he served her. What prompted you to post something so out of place and think it was okay? To potentially insult him for no reason.
She is brutally honest. No one is ready to listen realism imposed onto their favourite movies.
Tom cruise Flew That scene in Real on bis Own. So what is unrealistic in That scene when ist actually happend in „real life“ besides the cut at the end of That scene when he got to the ground?
@@shrike9t1 she was saying that he did not need to do his crazy dive antics and that was unrealistic i think
@@shrike9t1 shes saying theres no real reason the helicopter should be flying that way in an emergency unless its being manually flown that way for the sake of drama (as it is a movie) and then talks about what would happen in an actual emergency like that.
Wanna see react to battlefield 4 pilots 😂😂😂
And yet you are here watching a video that rates how 'real' these scenes are..you see the irony here?
That "Red bull helicopter" is an BO 105 it's an old German multi purpose helicopter from the 70s. The linkless rotor design alowes it to be maneuverable enough to fly loopings and barrel roles. In fact it was the first one to be able to, and the only helicopter with an acrobatic lizens! Made in Germany! 👍
So were Nazi's.
@@ivanlowjones Yes! And it also was made by the left over nazi engeneres that where not snatched by the allies! Maby they should have taken those to so they could build them better helicopters than the crap the Americans came up with!
@@ivanlowjones oh kid
Don't forget the British Westland Lynx
I got to see it fly at an airshow, absolutely bonkers
I had no idea that most helicopters were incapable of doing inversions. The way she explains it makes a lot of sense just never thought about it that way and you see helicopters doing crazy stuff like that in movies so often you start thinking that's normal. I've got massive respect for all helicopter pilots because you have to fly with both your hands and feet constantly.
She’s very charismatic. Has a lot of personality. I really enjoyed it
Agreed, and it sure seems like she has indeed the experience to know what she's talking about.
She talks a bit like a Chris Rock :)
I love the fact she has 2 watches
Loved her narration👍still, Airwolf..
Pleasant badass was my first thought.
I bet it would be impossible not to smile and have a good time around her, she seems so positive and cool!
yea! Shes got such good vibes lmao, i wonder how many people shes killed
Unless she’s flying her helicopter toward you, finger on the trigger!!!!
Yeah when they have good personalities it makes a difference between a good or bad episode. Loved her energy
@@lucienbubblegum8213 : Well considering your alive, not enough.
Pilots are generally pretty chill when you buy them a drink. Break the ice by talking with them about the aircraft they're certified on or their favorite aircraft. BAM instant friend
First of all, thank you so much for your service. Secondly, I absolutely loved your explanations. So much information packed into your reaction.
My dad was temporarily placed as a medic/observer on a UH-60 in Grenada during the peacekeeping operation after the Invasion, and during the flight, the pilot did a loop flying inverted. It’d sound like a tall tale, but we have a photo my dad took, sitting at the Starboard Gunner/Chief position aiming into the cockpit, and you can see clearly the tree line is upside down.
Yeah, some helicopters can go inverted for short periods of time, like the westland lynx, apache, bo105, and a few more. But the equipment she was trained for can't , so from her experience her opinion makes sense.
I'll take things that definitely happened for 600
I believe you because I've seen it done, but still wanna see those pictures 😁😁
I love everything about her. Her knowledge and expertise, her personality, her smile. She's the mvp.
Read her story In band of sisters
No
@@sicthemutt You're loved as a child were you?
She look just like my friend Tyrone! What’s up!!
The Blackhawk Down helicopter crash scene. The helicopter did indeed get hit in the tail rotor and was relatively slowly spinning, so it wasn't done for dramatic effect. Obviously it was rotating a bit faster than it did in the movie as mentioned by the pilot (Durant described it as just a whirling blur), the movie actually has the drama dialed back a little bit. Also, as for the Tom Cruise crash scene, she seems very certain the helicopter would have disintegrated, however there are lots of crashes of similar nature where the occupants survived... so I think she shouldn't be so certain in her assumptions. Fun fact: Tom Cruise actually piloted that helicopter by himself while operating the camera. He put himself in the spiral and recovered from it. Also... others have already addressed the acrobatic capabilities of lots of other helicopters. She says that it is unrealistic for a helicopter to do a barrel roll and she later goes onto say "except for the redubull heli" but that is not true considering there are other helis, such as the apache, british lynx and many others that others in the comment mentioned. I'm sure she was a great attack helicopter pilot, but she seems to not know where the edge of her knowledge exists. Not discrediting what she said though. Majority of the things she said were accurate but the things is that she might have been trained only for one model or rotor system in a heli, so she may not be familiar with the other helis.
I like the fact that she calls BS right away for most of the scenes. No wrapping it up and talking about how maybe, possibly, in the right circumstances...She just goes - nope. A helicopter cannot do that. Nobody survives that. We all know most of these things are only doable in movies but it's always nice to have an actual expert on the subject share some thoughts.
Aside from her saying helicopter blades "geet destroyed on anything" guess she hasn't heard the story of the Vietnam huey pilot who landed in a bamboo forest and managed to fly back to base also tthe fllipp flop on "when helicopters crash they instantly explode because of fuel" and then saying "oh they can crash safety in a certain way" is BS also helicopter frames aren't soda cans imm sure the frame is strong enough to crash (if there wasn't an explosion)
@@Truck_person Metal blades back then. Now they’re honeycomb composite.
@@CarletonForsling The Huey had honeycomb composite blades in Vietnam, at least Delta models did. But the reason that Huey could still fly Is the pilots were avoiding the bigger branches of bamboo. I wouldn’t say she was wrong. Helicopter blades are extremely fragile, but you can nick a branch or two and get away with it.
@@CarletonForsling Thanks, I was going to point this out.
@@Truck_person The crash displayed in the film where she made that comment would have disintegrated that bird. And yes gas and fumes would likely ignite. Barring the various materials and frequency a blade could pass through without failing, applied to the scenes she was commenting out, those blades wouldn't survive.
What great about truly knowledgeable folks like this is they don’t just say something is right or wrong, they explain why. And it’s usually a very simple explanation. Love these videos.
Thanks, Marine, for saluting the Tuskegee Airmen with your jacket in this video. Great heroes all!
Thank you for your service. I served 21 years in the Marine Corps as an infantry officer with 3 yeas in combat. Along the way, I did get my private pilot license with commercial and instrument ratings and I did take basic, intermediate, and advanced aerobatic instructions. I have to tell you that in Vietnam, I was in a helicopter crash (very hard landing) and it was a very unpleasant experience being in the back. I was also in a auto rotation hard crash in Latin America when the host nation Army helicopter I was in was shot down. I spent two years in Latin America supporting a host nation's Army and Navy in counter insurgency operations. So in combat, I was involved in two serious helicopter crashes and survived, but I've had major back problems every since. I also have to tell you that because of being in helicopters in Vietnam and Latin America under fire, and shot down; I absolutely hated riding in helicopters. To me they seemed to be machines trying to commit mechanical suicide with all of us on board. I'm sure they are safer today, but 50 years ago, I assure you they weren't. Again thank you for your service and God bless you for being a helicopter pilot. In my opinion , you beat the odds.
Thanks for you service
Thank you for your service.
Yup. Helicopters were considered last resort transportation. Not only are they easy targets in the south, but they are also extremely loud.
thank you for your service
Thanking her for killing people in a country she had no business being in 😏
We just need more of her. She is a type of person you never get bored of listening, big *respect* .
Washed
Sarcastic or no?
100 % agree. After 2 minutes I wanted to meet her, buy her a beer and talk about her story. Incredibly magnetic personality :)
You see kids, Above is what we call a sim-
She's wrong about the barrel roll though. Red Bull's pilot's do this very maneuver with this exact model helicopter all the time. Which is obviously why they chose this particular helicopter in the movie. EDIT never mind, she just commented on that. Not sure why she said it's not possible before when she knows it is. Why give this a 3 rating, it's literally 100% possible and is being done and she knows it. Odd. Should be a 10/10. What more proof does she want lol. Weird.
fantastic review, and the amount of knowledge she has made it very interesting. Love the humour and personality, I love this series!
First of all, Thank you for your Service. You are awesome. I am a Pilot (light aircraft/bug smasher) and a JTAC. Your descriptions are brilliant. Your language and voice are just the best. Keep up the great work 'FlyGirl'! Stay safe out there.
The Somali militia were actually trained to aim for the tail rotors on the Black Hawks. They also modified their RPGs so that the back blast wouldn't severely injure/kill them as it would have most likely killed the guy at 8:32, as well as anybody standing around him. "Black Hawk Down" is a good book to read if you want more info about that particular battle in Somalia. This lady is awesome, bring her back.
I just finished Michael Durant’s book Company of Heroes. Well worth reading. Pretty incredible. In the movie he said his back felt kind of weird and that his leg was broken. I thought it was probably a lower leg break but it was actually his femur. He hardly noticed it though because one of his vertebrae’s was crushed and the pain from that was much more excruciating. Incredibly he was able to run a marathon in 1995.
Probably trained by democrats.
And armed. And tipped off.
@@aluckyman1475 nah it was the soviets
@@abdirhmanali6320 Same thing.
Having the last name “Armour” is kinda badass ngl
I knew a marine called Sgt. Anger once.
@@russetwolf13 i see a future for him as a DI 😂
I was on a post in Germany where I knew a Major Steel.
@@russetwolf13 I knew a Sgt. Sargent
Not that rare actually, I have encountered officers in Russian army whose last name was Strelkov or Okhotnikov, for example, which would be translated as "from the family of shooters" or " hunters".
I saw a special on Tom Cruze and his flying expertise. I understand he not only received a special flying certification for doing the stunt shown, he is one of the few people in the world qualified to do it. From the special I saw he is a very well respected helicopter pilot in the aviation community.
Major props to the stunt chopper pilots in these clips! Armour taught all of us some neat stuff about these amazing machines.
Fun fact: Tom Cruise actually piloted that helicopter by himself while operating the camera. He put himself in the spiral and recovered from it.
Bruh
@@samholdsworth3957 Bruh Tom Cruise actually did that
@@samholdsworth3957 It's actually true. If he wasn't an exec producer, though, they never would've let him do that. I'm pretty sure he had to fight for it, even so.
Well he's Tom Cruise he can literally do anything
Thank you for commenting this. He literally did that manoeuvre I hope someone told her I would loved to see her reaction.
Just two things... MI scene was as real as it looks- Actual footage. Also, the thing in Spectre, that would only be possible with the RedBull helicopter (BO-105), is real, as actually... in the movie it is the RedBull helicopter, also with his stunt pilot flying it (Chuck Aaron).
The Westland Lynx is/was also capable of some crazy maneuvers, including barrel rolls and loops. --> watch?v=N1JTmgvQAiM
As a vet CE she did an awesome job explaining things. I love rotary pilots they're the coolest.
I was with the 3/5 during Iraqi Freedom. Having Cobras overhead got my platoon out of some bad situations more than a few times. Semper Fi, from a former "Doc"!
That's two things Marines love, their CAS pilots, and their Corpsman!
Black Hawk Down is one of my all time favorite movies. Am I the only one or does everyone else also think that it is a real masterpiece?
You're not alone, bro, BHD was awesome. First time I saw it was when I was in my AIT training at Ft. Bragg, it had just come out on DVD and we watched it in class. It was crazy to think that the Rangers who were in that IRL conflict were based just up the road from where we trained
Awesome Movie! I first saw it at one of the "premieres" and several of the Rangers (and I think some guys from 10th Mountain, 160th SOAR, and possibly other units) were guests. More units participated in the battle than are depicted in the movie. The book includes more details. Now, nearly 30 years later there is even more information available. Interestingly, the higher ups in the US armed forces didn't Want to learn about what happened... Typically, most "Special Operators" prefer to Not speak to outsiders about Details of recent operations. However, the survivors of the Battle of Mogadishu believed other US soldiers, aviators, etc. Needed to learn. Such as how Islamic guerrillas adapted RPGs to attack helicopters! So, the veterans talked to Mark Bowden. His book is amazing, and he got access and information rarely provided to outsiders. Ironically, the US Army invited Bowden to give presentations, Not some of the veterans! (Shocking Bowden.) Pettiness against some of the veterans of the Battle of Mogadishu!
My lieutenant made us watch it during a sort of movie night to make sure none of us would forget to pack our NVGs. Not sure how many of us understood the message but great move nonetheless
My favorite of all time
I don’t know if it’s a “Masterpiece”...!😂. But, it was a good movie...worth watching. Well done by the Production Company and the Actors. I saw the interview on Larry King with CW04 Michael Durant - the Black Hawk Pilot who was shot down. He was not impressed with the movie. He said, his personal experience was actually more horrifying than depicted on the movie - he wasn’t smiling 😮
Ive always been a huge fan of Helicopters. Thank you for your informative take on these clips.
Ma’am, Thank you for your service, and for all of the support you provided us guys on the ground. I served in both the conventional and SOF spheres, and reliable CAS saved our butts quite a few times. We appreciate you! And for the audience, every time an attack helicopter responds for CAS, they’re taking a huge risk. Even though stuff on the ground usually sucks, we have armored vehicles for cover (usually), we have M2s, MK19s, 240s, etc… As soon as that helicopter shows up, all attention is on them… small arms fire, RPGs, sometimes even SAMs. They endure a lot of hate to knock out the threat we walked into.
10/10 would want her back. She is extremely informative and charismatic.
Read her story in band of sisters
And she doesn't know what she's talking about! A BO-105 can perform a roll and even a looping!
I'd go the opposite. I'd want her to have *MY* back! This woman definitely knows what she's doing
@@k-peezy2723 She is awesome dude
@@thomasraetsch And you know what you're talking about based on what experience the we know nothing of??
I just love her personality so much. Would love to see her come back and do another video. Love how she explains things in a way anyone can understand.
Not sure if she should do another video - unless it was another one about helicopters. She's perfect here, but that is because she's an absolute expert in the field and can tell us what is wrong with the clips with total authority and knowledge.
She came and spoke to the women’s network where I work, she’s amazing.
The Blackhawk Down helicopter crash scene. The helicopter did indeed get hit in the tail rotor and was relatively slowly spinning, so it wasn't done for dramatic effect. Obviously it was rotating a bit faster than it did in the movie as mentioned by the pilot (Durant described it as just a whirling blur), the movie actually has the drama dialed back a little bit. Also, as for the Tom Cruise crash scene, she seems very certain the helicopter would have disintegrated, however there are lots of crashes of similar nature where the occupants survived... so I think she shouldn't be so certain in her assumptions. Fun fact: Tom Cruise actually piloted that helicopter by himself while operating the camera. He put himself in the spiral and recovered from it. Also... others have already addressed the acrobatic capabilities of lots of other helicopters. She says that it is unrealistic for a helicopter to do a barrel roll and she later goes onto say "except for the redubull heli" but that is not true considering there are other helis, such as the apache, british lynx and many others that others in the comment mentioned. I'm sure she was a great attack helicopter pilot, but she seems to not know where the edge of her knowledge exists. Not discrediting what she said though. Majority of the things she said were accurate but the things is that she might have been trained only for one model or rotor system in a heli, so she may not be familiar with the other helis.
Madame, I salute you as a badass, as a pilot, as a soldier, and showing up Hollywood for it's unrealistic helicopter scenes. Saving Private Ryan and Black Hawk Down are movies I enjoyed watching with my dad, former Army Ranger and he would explain the tactics used, what works, what doesn't work, realistic or unrealistic. Thank you for covering a piece of Black Hawk Down!
... its* unrealistic scenes (it's = it is)
Interesting pointer about Rambo's "russian" helicopter: since (for obvious Cold War reasons) it was impossible at the time to get a Russian Mi24 Hind for filming, they mocked up an Aerospatiale Puma helicopter with the faux payload wings. The same helicopter had been used a few years earlier for the movie Red Dawn, where it sported also a faux nose sector to make it more similar to the canopy of the actual Hind Model-A, but was removed on the pilot's request because it made the helo's visibility much worse and the helicopter more difficult to maneuver
I'm sure I heard something else about Red Dawn, that they had a BMP mockup that was so good, people were wondering where they got one from or something.
@@notspacekeeper yep they did an excellent job mocking up the ground vehicles
“We were soldiers” and “Apocalypse now” should have been in this.
This 100%
+ Airwolf
I just wanted to know where the switch is to turn on the fortunate son.
Huey vhap vhap sound is iconic. One of it's designer was ours. They main goal was simplicity and durability my humble guess the job done quite well.
you cannot forget Blue Thunder
10:51 Spectre clip: that is literally Chuck Aaron in his RedBull helicopter (rewrapped for the film) doing the stunt flying.
absolutely correct , i was searching for this coomment
It's a Bölkow BO 105, which is a german utility helicopter designed in 1965. First test flight was in 1967. It is not even modefied for the RedBull use. It served in a couple armys, but manly in the german "Luftwaffe" (german airforce). It also saw extensive use in the civil aviation.
@@nonedead1928 damn that’s pretty interesting
Yea but not in the movie. She is talking about the fictional situations where it's shown wrong.
AFAIK, that helicopter uses a rigid rotor system, which can be rolled like that to a small degree.
Nicely done one of the best aircraft reviews I’ve seen
Several things to unpack here, speaking as a retired USN/civil helo driver. First - yes, MRB are finely tuned and not like buzzsaw blades, BUT, there are documented examples of them chopping into things and still surviving. In Vietnam, LTJG (later CDR) Clyde Lassen chopped down a small tree with his HH-2 on a CSAR, at night but in the wrong LZ when parachute flares from the overhead CAP went out. Despite a heavy 1/per vibration, he elected to make another approach to where the two Navy pilots really were, turning on his lights to accomplish this. Under heavy fire from regular NV soldiers, a crewman ran out, grabbed both men, dragged them aboard, and the helo got airborne again. Clyde got the Medal of Honor, CP got the Navy Cross and both crewmen got the Silver Star. /// Second - the helo doing the barrel roll is one and the same as the Red Bull aircraft - a BO-105.. Very definitely could do that./// Third - helo-to-helo ACM is a thing. The USMC developed training for this and I personally practiced 1-v-1 maneuvers, with high AOB. So, it's possible. /// Fourth - the crash in Black Hawk Down is a little unrealistic, for the reasons you stated, but in general it's OK. I heard Mike Durant speak at his booksigning ceremony years later, and he told us that it was spinning so violently that his copilot was pinned against the left door and couldn't even reach the overhead PCLs to pull them back.
As an old Army helicopter structural mechanic, a lot of those scenes hurt my soul.
Was scrolling through the comments, saw this and immediately started laughing because I often make jokes about the poor mechanics when I fly helicopters hard in video games.
Lol
You mean to tell me Hobbs and Shaw isn’t realistic? Devastated!
Yeah! - Idris should've just leaned out and cut the cable, and dropped Dom and his convoy into the sea below!
Something better would be to show true story moments with helicopters to see if it’s accurate cause those movies are paying attention to detail to get it right to what actually happened then hear what she has to say. Of course all the other films will do something crazy
Lmfao.
Yeah .. I agree , no way
They did use a real helicopter for the filming though. There's a couple "Moviehawks" refurbished UH60 Blackhawks used in Hollywood. If you have seen that type of helicopter in any recent movies the past few years, it's usually the same company flying the same helicopters. Sicario 2 is another movie that comes to mind that has them in it.
Damn, it was really great to listen to this woman explaining such complex things in this easy way. Great content!
As a helicpoter enthusiast myself i appreciate all this breakdown and very merciless rating. So much fake scenes can be easly recognised and questioned by pure logic,but with experience comes even more to say. Naturally heli scene in "Jumanji" is helluva unrealistic but on the other hand they told us from the beginning that they have been transferred into virtual reality (where many physical rules don't take place). Then come "Expendables II" with opening scene with taking down helicopter by crashing motorcycle into it.
Of note - though the maneuvers may not have been reasonable - the flying in mission impossible was all done practically, and the flight seen in camera is very real - incredibly impressive flying by Tom and their stunt pilot crew.
You're the only other person that pointed that out
I was trying to remember, wasn't that spiral dive in mission impossible done on purpose?
I was looking for this comment that, that specific scene was real the crash was CGI
Actually came to say this. There’s actual footage of BTS where tom is performing the trick. He trained quite some time to be able to pull it off because the heli was empty other than him and stuffed with bunch of iMax cameras iirc
I dont think he said anything about flying per se, it was just that heli are not that durable or the fact that there was no reason to nose dive
Loved this video, although Black Hawk Down was like the only movie that wasn’t a action fantasy type movie, I wish they’d given her more movies that are made to show more realistic military situations
Blackhawk Down wasn't just not a fantasy, but those are real MH-6s and MH-60s from 160th. In fact in one scene you see a MH-6 land to pick up a wounded person from the crash of Super 61, and the pilot is shooting out the door with his MP-5 while his copilot was picking up the wounded. That actually happened, and the pilot of that MH-6 was the pilot who actually did that in Mogadishu.
I participated in Black hawk down while I was in Somalia
@@davids5006 on which side?
@@tymone3544 ha.... US side
@@davids5006 Ok, just checking. Carry on.
Regular helicopters: I have very limited mobility Red Bull helicopter: I have no such weakness
Love how ‘No BS’ her approach is. Really good explanations too. 10/10.
Black Hawk Down is an incredible movie and the true story behind it of what our soldiers went through in Mogadishu is unbelievable. Those guys are true heroes. I read Michael Durant's book about his experiences from the crash to being a prisoner and absolutely could not put it down. Highly recommend.
It's funny she down rates Black Hawk Down and that movie was flown by 160th so all the scenes are totally realistic.
@@Skinner117 wym? She gave it a 9/10?
@@Skinner117, she only downrated the crash scene, which was a visual effect. Still, the real second Black Hawk to go down was hit in the tail rotor by an RPG.
@@beevezeepe6615 both of the blackhawks shot down in the city, and the third that was hit that made it back to airport camp before crashing were all hit by RPGs. I reread Mike Bowden’s book after watching this (he wrote the book the movie was based on, after interviewing everyone), and the crash scene she downgraded was exactly as Mike Durant (the actual pilot) described it
Ms. Armour was a great host for this. She was knowledgeable, well-spoken, and did a great job explaining complex things in simpler terms. I'd love to see more from her in the future. However, it would be nice to see some quality control from the editors. The helicopter and weapons at 6:46 are Russian. The Apache at 12:06 is in Indian markings. Showing a helicopter that belongs to a different country doesn't line up too well with, "Here in America."
It's an Indian Air Force AH-64
@@nastyjax5155 I thought so. Thanks for the correction! I'll update my comment.
Looks like an italian flag
@@LifeOnTwoWheels nah it's IAF
blame the editor
She is awesome, knowledgeable and funny! It's really hard to suspend disbelief in some of these flicks.
Thanks for the pilot explaining how real fight happen. I love these comparisons
I like her. She explains very well in "layman's terms" so those of use that did not study aerodynamics of a helo can understand. And, she's very cool. Not sure how she rolls, but it's irrelevant...I'm kinda crushing on her.
Well she did say she would never roll her helicopter...
Crushing on a WM is not uncommon --- I mean what's not to like?
Honestly they've never even been inside a chopper. This is propaganda. Just look at it.
@@Whitejesselink "GET TO DA CHOPPAH!"
@@Whitejesselink This can be a bit propaganda and still they can be an actual pilot
Since many are commenting, that only a "specially modified Red Bull helicopter" can do that stuff (rolls, loops): the BO-105 without any modifications can do rolls and loops. Long before Red Bull, German Army captain Karl "Charly" Zimmermann regularly flew those maneuvers with a "standard" army BO-105. Aerobatics with the BO-105 were essentially developed by three Army pilots: Kollman, said Zimmermann and Fuchs. The first looping with a BO-105 (and first looping with any helicopter) was flown in 1972. So, don't give credit to Red Bull, but to the MBB engineers (rotor head, rigid blade design) and those army officers. Red Bull is just "standing on the shoulders of giants".
what about the british lynx
@@Supraboyes Can also do that stuff. Without any modifications.
@@larseberhart just seen the vid with zimmermann, in the regular helo, for the 70s thats very manouravable.
The helicopter in the 007 movie actuslly looked exactly like the model red Bull uses
@@Brooks__EU I guess they used it, because I assume it's one of the best serviced BO-105 out there and the pilot wanted "his" helicopter. Just wanted to point out, that doing a looping or roll is not something Red Bull invented.
I'd love to see more from her... specially older stuff where practical effects & flying were the only option. Airwolf comes to mind, Fire Birds maybe, the Magnum PI stunts etc.
Not me.
@@chriszelez7970 Damn you don't agree. I will consider that greatly.
This was really good. I’m a little surprised that she didn’t know much about black hawk down as it was a crucial helicopter based tragedy. I also can’t believe she doesn’t know what a hind is.
The Bo-105 can actually do the maneuver they showed in Spectre. Personally saw it at an airshow, it was the same Bo-105 actually.
So can every Westland Lynx in RAF / HM army and HM navy. They can also fly for extended periods upside down . The Aerospatel Gazelle can also do these maneuvers, the KA-52 infact most KA helicopters can .
Yep, Chuck Aaron helped invent that entire right plate system on the BO-105 and he flew that stunt in Spectre. As a sports photographer I was invited to fly with him at an Airshow outside Memphis one year, I had to decline LOL
Was thinking the same thing. We had the BO-105 here in The Netherlands as part of our airforce and it was highly manoeuvrable.
@@edmundscycles1 Its Royal Navy, British Army and Royal Air Force. Because historic reasons. (The British Army as a whole actually traces its roots to the anti-monarchy New Model Army although many regiments have "royal" in their name)
interestingly even a ch 53 can do a roll and a loop. There is even old footage of it
She’s awesome. A little disappointed they didn’t give her Airwolf to tear to pieces.
There were also the movies Blue Thunder and Firebirds that they could have shown
I was really hoping for some Airwolf. I always am, if I'm being honest
Because nobody disrespects Airwolf lol
Nobody touches Airwolf!
No T2 Helo/bridge scene either
I love her energy and delivery! Nice video!!!
Wow very surprised at the level of understanding she has of the physics behind helicopter flight. Very impressive I hope there are many more pilots like her left in the military!
The James Bond scene was a BO-105, which actually can perform Loopings and Barrel Rolls (The same helicopter as the Redbull one) it was actually in Service with the German army as an Anti-Tank Aircraft for quite a long time
Was thinking the same thing. She is laughing and making fun of the stunt, and Im "uhhhhh.....I have seen BO-105 do that at Bundeswehr-shows in Germany". Is she supposed to be an actual helicopter pilot?
Glad you've said this as I'm pretty certain they had the lynx doing barrel rolls at Southport airshow a few years back too?
That helicopter used in the Bond movie was a red bull helicopter, flown by a red bull pilot. It was just painted grey
@@charliesweeney391 Every Bo-105 can do rolls. And she thought the scene is the Bond movie was CGI.
It served in the Swedish army as a anti-tank helo too. Too bad she obviously don't know much about helos from other countries then the USA. Cuz the 105 is one of the most agile helos ever made. I was lucky enough to actually go up with one of the swedish ones. It can actually do more then loops and rolls. 😁 I loved it! 😂
can't put my finger on it, but i love this woman for some reason. she's funny, has a cool vibe and is sharp! there's gotta be a word for it. i'd love to buy her a beer
Competence. The word is competence. To paraphrase Margaret Thatcher, being a badass is like being a lady: if you have to tell someone you are, then you’re not. Ms. Vernice doesn’t have tell anyone she’s a badass. It’s obvious.
@@jasonkrantz3643 here! here! cheers☺ perfect word, thanks!
The word is FLY! google slang meaning of FLY.
So knowledgeable but she still makes it easy to understand! I want to know more about her!
Very impressed with her analysis and experience. Bravo!
Fun fact for you the red bull helicopter is the one from the James bond clip. They reskinned it for the film and overlaid it onto the background.
I love that fun fact💯😃👏👏
Still doesn't change her point since in universe the bad guys wouldn't have been flying a red bull helicopter
@@Jaqen-HGhar They could have flown any Bo105 theres enough of them around, and most of em do not belong to Red Bull.
@@Jaqen-HGhar very true i just thought it was funny she said helicopters couldn't do that except for the Redbull one which is the one they used proving it can be done just not realistic in the scenario.
The guy who flew the helicopter is named Chuck Aaron and they filmed at least some of the scenes above a real crowd on a build set piece, because the altitude of Mexico city doesn't allow for stunts like this. I guess they had to add the far background through CGI, though.
"Something has gone drastically wrong" accurately describes helicopter dogfights. It also describes the A-Team movie.
No, that was a tank... lmao
If you want a good helicopter dogfight, I suggest Fire Birds.
That movie was a good time.
There have been instances of rotors being used to clear vegetation. Sometimes, Australian UH-1 pilots in Vietnam did it in order to expand a clearing for landing. It was strictly unofficial, and no one spoke for either the quality of the ride back to Vung Tau or Nui Dat, or the subsequent usability of the rotor. I'd imagine that, regardless of the apparent condition of the rotor, they'd replace it anyway - just in case.
Best commentary about movie scenes vs. reality I've seen. Very knowledgeable and clear explanations.
Fun Fact, the majority of the helicopter scenes in Mission Impossible were actually flown and actually flown by Tom Cruise himself
That's what I was thinking about. So technically it was possible what he did
@@AB-wf8ek 👆 this sarcasm though.. 🤣😂🤣😂
@@AB-wf8ek He definitely didn't crash it into the ground, that is a no no. There's a difference between doing your own stunts and being part of a big accident
The unrealistic part about that scene, or the movie in general is that Tom survived the crash lol. Mission Impossible, barring 2, are actually the most believable in its genre imo
I don't think she is saying that maneouver can't be done. Just the reason why an helicopter will have to pitch down so badly. But I think she don't know Tom actually did all the scenes (I think he got his Commercial Helicopter licencse fot that movie, if not, the private at least).
Check out the after-action report on the Mogadishu raid, the militia where targeting tail rotors that day (they modified their RPG-7s with metal elbows so the back blast could vent parell to the ground in a vertical shooting position). They did not show that in the movie because it was more dramatic, it was real. Unlike the movie (read the book it's so much better) 6 aircraft where hit and suffered damage that day. The only Blackhawk hit in the main rotor was the "Super 68" (the medic bird), it was hit squarely on the cover of the main shaft from above while inserting medics into Durant's crash site. It did an emergency landing at the port. Additionally, the Brits have been barreling rolling and looping their Lynx at airshows for years. It has a crazy amount of power. I saw one do it once way back in the late cold war when I was on active duty. Stay safe and thanks for your service. AATW!
Yes, I've seen a Royal Navy :Lynx do a loop so that's definitely possible too, but the Lynx is the fastest helicopter in the world so it's probably not typical.
@@exiled_londoner it's not just the speed, but the modifications that allow it to do so. In combat or just a general service helicopter can't. They love showing it off, but even if you could, you absolutely shouldn't outside of showing off at an exhibition. Without the modifications to the rotors, they would immediately fail and like she said, helicopters don't glide.
@@L.Pondera - You mean all those acrobatics in 'Blue Thunder' were just SFX... what a disappointment. But, yes, my basic understanding of how helicopters and their rotors generate lift tells me you're right.
She's probably one of the best people you all had on here. Explained things clearly and without ego.
The fact that Tom Cruise did that stunt himself is amazing. Not taking away credit from his other stunts. And they actually had to perform the corkscrew in that terrain in real life😂
I love when GQ interviews Military personnel, they're all so cool and give extremely educational content.
14:20 C’mon…This is the “A Team” we’re talking about! Not only CAN crazy chopper pilot Murdoch re-start a jet turbine and get the rotor upto flight speed in just 1000 feet…..but Hannibal and Face can steer a falling MBT using the recoil from its main gun. Don’t you just love it when a plan comes together 😁
They also flew a tank. Which is impossible. Unless you are The A Team.
@@shineyrow9001 theres a vid on youtube showing its technically possible. Emphasis on technically
ahahaha.. she cannot just simply roast capt. murdock like that... 🤣 also these guys are legends..
They are an elite military team. She doesn't know about the elite training they have had. 😜
Vernice armor, I know this video is little old I want to thank you for your time and service in the army helicopter core and your deployment but I really really impressed that you paid homage to those before us by wearing a Tuskegee airmen flight jacket kudos to to them and You..
Cool explanations of complex equipment and their capabilities, you go "FlyGirl," much respect.
This is the most I've ever learned about helicopters! What a treat! Bring her back for more, please!
Don't take it to heart. She was definitely wrong about a few things
@@robertguinn8590 Like what? Just asking.
@@danielalbassit8051 Spectre scene, Blackhawk down, Mission Impossible (to some degree) and about rotor blades
She did a good job, I hope they get her back to analyze more helicopter scenes.
Blackhawk down was one of my favorite movies so im glad it got rated so high
Thank you for your service to this great country! Congratulations on your accomplishments in becoming America's first black female to fly Blackhawk helicopter 🚁
11:35 that is why the BO-105 was used in Spectre which CAN do barrel rolls, loops etc...
Exactly
@@fab8657 It is just an opposing rotor bearing. It is a standard bearing type but not for helicopters.
I have personally seen a standart german army BO105 do such maneuvers, the pilots need a lot experiance but it's do able.
If its millitary helicopter then the tiger is good example for that.
Finally. I thought no one would mention the BO 105. Thank god there are actual aviation enthusiasts here.
"If you get hit in the main rotor you just explode and fall out the sky. Which one is more exciting?" Definitely got a point there
That helicopter from the real life Black Hawk Down incident actually did get nailed in the tail rotot lol
We need her in a post apocalyptic world
She was super congenial. Proud of her accomplishment also. The content was also good as well; cool that she mentioned the red bull heli. Cheers thanks.
I loved her analysis it was so insightful and fascinating to learn about combat helicopters ( had no idea they were so vulnerable )
It's tricky because they're not fast, can't fly that high, can't be well armoured and aren't super maneuverable but they're still an essential part of mobility and fire support on the battlefield, they're kind of like a flying humvee.
I flew in a sister squadron to hers. We joked that the only real armor was our thick skin.
@@joco8700 Some helicopters can take small arms fire up to and including a 7.62 mm round though, right? (only one type of Russian gunship, as far as I know; but that's still mostly from "the internet" so I figured I'd ask😅)
@@DjDolHaus86 there are actually heavy armored helicopters like the russian Mi-24, the plates surrounding it are heavy mg resistant and the cockpit glass is bulletproof.
@@ishhyyyy Hence why I said 'like a humvee', they can withstand machine gun fire to an extent but cannons, rockets and missiles will tear them to shreds. Apache's are also resistant to .50"/12.7mm around the cockpit and can apparently survive 23mm cannon strikes to the engine/gearbox housing. Blackhawks and other utility helicopters can also be armoured to resist heavy MG but even helicopter gunships aren't built to be frontline battle vehicles, just tough enough to get out of harms way when things go badly
She is amazing! Explains things so eloquently and with such confidence. She must be an amazing pilot! Plus seems to be quite empathic person. Really positive energy :)
She's a motivation speaker so yeah
It really made me laugh when on spectre she points out "Why the barrel role, no one is touching the pilot." because that never dawned on me 🤣
Notice my screen name. I served with the 20th Aircraft Maintenance Unit, 834th Aircraft Generation Squadron, 1st Special Operations Wing, 2nd Air Division, 9th Air Force, Military Airlift Command, Hurlburt Fld AFB. I worked on one of the USAF's variations of the H-53 Super Jolly Green Giant, the MH-53H Pavelow III. In tech school, we are shown actual test flight footage of an "A" model '53 performing two consecutive FULL loops, then going directly into two consecutive barrel-rolls. The H-53 is one of the 2 largest, most powerful helicopters in the U.S. military, used by (currently) the Navy & Marine Corps (the USAF retired all of theirs around 2007/2008 in favor of the CV-22 Osprey). It is FAR bigger than the chopper shown in the movie Spectre, so that maneuver is NOT "totally unrealistic". It simply depends on the aircraft and the pilot. Don't believe me? Look it up. BTW, how do I sign up to critique some of this movie magic? Not only am I a former mechanic on military, heavy-lift helicopters, I also performed maintenance on commercial jetliner and cargo planes, SPECIFICALLY the 747 used in the movie Die Hard 2.
Vernice Armour was apart of our knowledge we had to memorize in Marine Corps boot camp. Finally seeing her and hearing her breakdown makes me all the more impressed.
Yeah, I wish they would have gone into the history of who we were learning about a bit more in boot.
Imagine showing up at OCS or PLC with that name! You know she went through some BS
... was a* part* (apart = distant/other)
Would have been worth noting that the reason the helo scenes in Black Hawk Down were so accurate is because they had the actual 160th SOAR flying for them. :-)
And it's was based on surveillance plane footage.
Yeah it’s like she didn’t realize it was based on real events it’s also known that the Somalis learned to target the tail rotors from Bin laden from experiences in shooting down helicopters during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan during the 80’s.
@@Fucktheworld14020 I have major doubts that she actually did a major role as a pilot and not just as a co-seater because she SHOULD know about Mogadishu because they teach about it in flight school because its a key point in military helicopter history.
@@JustAGooseman She probably does know about it and that the studio doesn't want her talking about it too much. Since Mogadishu was kind of an embarassment.
@@JustAGooseman Flying a helicopter does not require knowing the finer points of a 28 year old battle.