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Keren Elazari is an internationally recognized security analyst, researcher, author, and speaker who works with leading security firms, government organizations, and Fortune 500 companies. Here, she looks at 12 hacking scenes from popular TV shows and movies and rates them based on realism.
Elazari analyzes "Ocean's Eight" (2018), "The Social Network" (2010), "Mr. Robot" (2017), "Skyfall" (2012), "Hackers" (1995), "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo" (2011), "The Fate of the Furious" (2017), "Jason Bourne" (2016), "The Matrix Reloaded" (2003), "Silicon Valley" (2017), "Star Trek: Discovery" (2019), and "Wargames" (1983).
Elazari was the first Israeli woman to give a TED talk at the official TED Conference. She is the founder of the security-community event BSidesTLV and the Leading Cyber Ladies network for women in cybersecurity. She is also a senior researcher at the Interdisciplinary Cyber Research Center at Tel Aviv University.
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Hacker Rates 12 Hacking Scenes in Movies and TV
she's got fingerless gloves, I'll believe everything she says about hacking
Probably carpal tunnel syndrome and not a fashion statement...LuLz
@@kemolowlow you're probably right buuut I stand by my joke tho
@@BMoore556 Do hackers really wear gloves? Just wondering.
@@IGamingStation nah, pretty sure it's a movie/TV trope you see a lot
LMFAO you made my day with this comment
"Hackers dont break in we login" - TRUE.
Yeah buddy
@@cooperthegrandkid5639 what do you read header files for fun lmao? Usually all preprocessor variables are all caps... it's not just in your favorite header file
@@BacklTrack That's what Eliot does to wind down.
600 likes. Congo 🎊 🤣 🤣
Script kiddie
I like that she has actually seen all shows the scenes are from and she knows the context. Many other experts criticize the scene without knowing that the context explains away some of their critique.
You can’t expect every expert to watch every movie and tv show of their own job.
@@MrWarrenRB Yea but it's nicer like this anyway.
Yeah, quite refreshing! I also found her ratings pretty good, like she gave good points for the stuff that was done well, and properly rated the bad ones low. Though her criticism of the time is a hard one, most movies have time compressions because they can't sit there and show you a real hack in real time or that would be the whole movie's runtime. Even for "based on a true story" scenarios, thye often have a lot of time compression for events that happened over a longer space of time. If it's comically short, then yeah, it should be low rated. But for a real life hack that is show to take a few hours as opposed to a few more hours, I think we can cut them some slack.
Also she's glossing over the fancy 3d fly-by math formula, greek character screen-saver effect in Hackers because it's clear that this is just a mental image for the audience and should explain the thought process in his brain which of course you can't really visualize. Many often claim that Hackers was soo unrealistic, but some parts were just a bit exaggerated. I started programming 30 years ago and I have to confess that I actually did write some fancy visual tools back then, just for fun. I dived deep into OpenGL around 2000. I always was and still am a sucker for technology. About a year ago I wrote my own DNS server in C# just for fun. I do actually run it with mono on my raspberry pi to this day. So it is in use, but not really for important stuff. I'm more interested in how things work. I read so many specifications. One of my favourite ones was the GIF specification. I wrote a gif loader and I was impressed by the format design. Especially that it was actually really extensible. PNG kinda followed the footsteps and is also "chunking" the file so a parser could simply ignore chunks it does not understand. It's kinda sad that animated gif support was better back then. Nowadays the Graphic Control Extension is always interpreted as a sequance of frames to conduct an animation. However back then it was actually possible to create gif files with images with more than 256 colors by splitting the colors up into several frames which were painted on top of each other. Gif actually uses a virtual canvas and contains write instructions for pixel image data but also could render text.
There's actually a very good reason why they'd use "impossible" IP addresses in movies, and that's to simply avoid accidentally posting someone's actual IP address and setting them up for potential cyber-harassment. It's the same reason they used to use "555" for everyone's phone number, because people were actually attempting to call those numbers. Nowadays it's easy to buy a phone number used in a movie, the studio will use it as a marketing tool or simply not activate it, and for URLs mentioned in movies they'll do the same, register it and then use it as a marketing site or simple redirect to their studio website. Can't really do that with IP addresses.
Was wondering if there would be this comment about the IP addresses already and wasn't dissapointed. Honestly that's one of the mistakes I think actually shows that they know what they're doing (or don't and got lucky :-D )
@@_Tomon I know for sure, bigger productions do a thorough search on anything that can be mistaken or misused. They even check character names, they don't want to risk getting sued because anyone of note with the same name as someone in the movie might be defamed. So I'm sure they also check things like IPs and phone numbers (remember until recently, all movie phone numbers started with 555. Now, studios buy the phone numbers mentioned in the movie and use them as marketing).
Yeah she's 👽
I think the most realistic hacking scene ever is in Archer, where he correctly guesses the password is "guest"
Admin
password123
There certainly was a time
Security1
Phone lock: [date of birth]
Nothing like listening to a really enthusiastic hacker that knows what they’re doing to really make you want to change your passwords
she gave the movie hackers a 8 out of 10 lol those gibbons and gifs in the malware the sprinkler system is connect to the internet the lights in the building just so much in that movie lol
Doesn't have to hack me, I'll just give her my password
@@joejacko1587 stroke
@@joejacko1587 Yep. all her ratings are too high.
@@joejacko1587 lmao armchair coders commenting on an experts opinions if the best description of youtube comments
I love that her only complaint about Hackers was the lack of seeing the code. Thank you, people rip on it all the time for being inaccurate - but we're never actually shown enough code to know if its accurate: instead we experience what it Feels Like for the hackers, not specifically the steps they go through. Also, because we don't see them taking specific actions, the movie is timeless - it doesn't date itself to the early 90's. Hackers is arguably the best hacker movie ever made, it doesn't teach you anything about How To hack, but it explores why and why not.
It is one of my all time favorite movies with one of the greatest soundtracks (why I still listen to The Prodigy and Orbital to this day.) My gripe though was always the silly scenes where they are flying through this computer landscape representing the company's network and stuff. I know, it's Hollywood Hacking but they could have at least off set that with some actual code.
I still love the movie Hackers as it shows them actually going into buildings to line in rather than just sitting there.
Hackers was a silly joke that only little kids that never seen a hacker movie before thought was 133t when it came out. It was embarrassing in every way possible. Literally nothing accurate at all. WarGames was the only movie that was any good.
This was great. I love that Hackers actually influenced her to become a Hacker. Please bring her back for more. I would have loved to see Die Hard 4...wanna know how much of the Fire Sale is real. Also Leverage and some of Hardison's hacks, like the car theft hack or against the Sterenko.
Oh my, yes I remember Die Hard 4, the Fire Sale hack, I'm also curious about the real aspect of this thing...
I want to see her comment on that infamous NCIS scene lol
"I have been in cybersecurity... for more than 25 years" I thought she is just 25.
D u think she is hacker? or is she lying for youtube?
You'd be surprised what moisturizer and hair dye can do.
@@savsaga4991 Dude don't be silly. She's well known and her resume is easy to verify. Also, she's 41 years old (dob: 1980). Good genetics & self care. "Hackers" movie came out in '95 and targeted teenagers.
@@bm_wuratli6883 you know that she can be a white hat hacker....not a black or red hat
I can say she looks her age. Obvious from the first glance that she was at least in her later thirties to early forties.
You should bring a regular guy review The Office
More like Office worker rate Office scene in movies and tv shows.
I'd watch that
As someone who worked in Big Corporate for years, it is pretty spot-on if you dial back the nonsense a couple notches. There is always drama and stupid corporate crap going on. There is a Dwight in every office. There is always a short-timer around that won't do anything.
@@chuckhoyle1211 Depending on the place, you even have those oddball bosses that don't seem to do anything worthwhile but still get all the promotions and rewards too.
That real funny
So well done. I'm a software engineer. I found your explanations approachable yet still detailed. Keep up the great content.
For a layman, one of the most fun educating, eye opening things about hacking in 25 minutes. Would love to have more of her with such equally good movies.
Her standards for critiquing Mr Robot is just absolutely wonderful to watch. Just shows how good Mr Robot is.
Yeah, but it should've been 10/10. The "should take longer" is so obvious, I don't think you should know about programming and hacking to figure that out. 9.5 at least, and even 9... The whole show is that well curated when it comes to programming details
@@disco.lemonade I completely agree with you, I too expected a solid 10 but don't know why she didn't give.
@Untitled 1 Welcome to Mr. Robot. It'll be an interesting ride for four seasons
@@disco.lemonade Mostly agree. The same is kinda true of the whole show, it's pretty much all possible but probably wouldn't be done by such a small group and/or in such a short amount of time. Points to consider though, firstly that nation-state threat actors were involved and there was a lot going on the background, and we don't exactly get every piece of the story. Second, as far as getting rid of the backdoor, wasn't the Mr. Robot alter already aware of this information? That was probably more a hole in the plot than in the technicals, though that also is not necessarily a hole...the show was riddled with bizarre internal conflicts between the alters(Tyrell: "You, as a person, make no sense"). Ultimately if the show was any more realistic, it'd be a documentary. Aside from the hacking portions, I'd also like to see different aspects of this show rated by intelligence officials, law enforcement officials, and psychologists. Like the creepy personnel tactics of the Dark Army("Have you ever cried during sex?" "Have you ever cheated on your wife?"), law enforcement procedures("Green! FBI! Don't shoot!" "We call it the python approach."), and the nature of dissociative identity disorder. Seems like one of these Hollywood realism clips mentioned Dom keeping her gun and badge in a locked safe at her house but I can't remember.
@@disco.lemonade I have the tendency to put pause watching intense shows (I think the issue is that I binged, so getting burnt out is quicker). I enjoy the S1 and half of S2, but there are certain subplots that I just roll my eyes on.
The Mr Robot data center UPS scene was so detailed that companies depicted on screen actually reviewed their designs after the episode aired.
Can you direct me to the article about it, I can't find anything
@@arturszatkowski8062 I worked for one of those companies at the time. This was not published but something I saw myself. I should probably add that we concluded the hardware systems in place would have prevented it. Their commitment for accuracy was stunning though.
I loved mr robot
@@justincruz5720 Season 2 Episode 12.
What happened with the UPS es, I forget?
On the topic of Elliot, I assume anytime we see something happen too fast, it's because we're seeing it from his perspective. We already know he doesn't process things well and hyperfocus is a pretty common trait that causes people to "lose time". He might be spending an hour on a task, but only really processing it as a few minutes. Since we follow his perspective we process time the way he does. This probably isn't right, but I like it as a head canon.
The IP address with 256 in it, is probably similar to them using 555 as the city code for telephone numbers in TV and movies, to keep people from trying those numbers and successfully reaching some random person. Don't want them trying to reach Jenny's laptop, only to accidentally to to connect to something like a server at the NSA, which gets your own IP logged for potential cyber crimes, when you are just a kid playing around with something they saw in a movie.
Came here to say that, they probably didnt want to accidently use someones actual IP Adress so they took one that isnt possible
@@derleonator2232 They also show at least one real valid IP owned by Level3, the way they use leading zeros so inconsistently shows that whoever designed that scene has heard about IPv4, over the phone. Definitely not done on purpose to prevent DDoS/spamming against real IPs. If that were the concern (which it should be), they would use local IP addresses (RFC1918) or APIPA addresses which would guarantee nobody would ever be affected by it.
@@someguy4915 It's done for legal liabilities, as every legal IP is borrowed by a company, and they could be liable to the owner, even if there was no attacks against it. The most appropriate IPs to use are probably those reserved for documentation besides private and zeroconf addresses. I'm guessing they like to use big and random numbers instead because they look "cooler", and because they don't have to think too much about it.
I love how she explain everything in details... I'm still confused
coming from a red hat, some of it even after a few years is really confusing XD you are not alone
Hahaha. I'm guilty of trying to kid my own self that "I am understanding everything she is staying" Even though my mind, attention was completely in kuku land and would refocus on the video which lasted a few seconds, to then only go back to kuku land for the next couple of minutes, after a few seconds of coming back to reality! Hahaha
Lmfao
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Plot twist: The CIA is now monitoring fingerless glove sales in order to go on a phishing expedition.
Hahahahah punny humor!
Thats gonna flag alot of bicyclists.
@@kriss3d and motorcyclists, european sports car drivers, and mma fighters!
Oh my. I have a story of programing courses, IT degree, and have a lot of notes for writing that makes me loot like a psychic. Now my fingerless gloves are totally make me look suspicious!
You joke but I bet intelligence services are monitoring some crazy things around the world. Not just the obvious, like amonium nitrate sales and such.
Mr. Robot is the best IT/Hacking show or movie that's been made. It's combination of the technical elements and the psychological complexity of the characters with Elliot being one of the best written characters I've ever seen. A brilliant show and if your a tech nerd you need to watch this.
True,only because creators of Mr.Robots are smart people who want to create realistic hacker show. They are backed with elite hacking team of top security engineers and IT specialist that perform all Mr Robots hacks for them in real life,everything that team was doing was build in a flash animations that are later played on the show so it seems that eliot or other characters performed them.
this was great! 2:45 when she says "unfortunately mr. Bond" like a villain. hackers are too clever for their own good :)
“We can tell she’s a hacker shes got all those stickers on her laptop” I sense some sarcasm
I'm a software engineer and my laptop is actually covered in stickers 😂 It's a pretty common practice, and some companies even give employees stickers to put on their laptops. Granted, my hacking skills are somewhat lacking.
I am a programmer but I don't like stickers on my laptop.
I am not a programmer and don't like stickers on laptop.
I am not a programmer but I like stickers on my laptop
I'm not a laptop but I like programmers on my stickers
Didn't know Aunt May is a hacker.
Lmfaoo
there's a lot of things May keeps a secret
She's not. Her much fatter kid sister is.
So I guess I'm not the only one who thought of that 😂😂
Maybe she learnt it from peter
One of the things that I'm disappointed that she didn't mention is social engineering, which is also used in Hackers where he takes over the TV station by calling up the guard to get the number to the modem. It is a real thing that was also used to gain access to different places by pretending to belong there and someone willingly gives you the access you want.
My brother works in IT, more on the hardware side. He was tasked once with helping do a security audit. He was basically given a hi-vis vest, a hard hat, clipboard, and fake ID, and told to see what he could access without question. He said it was amazing how many places he could get without even showing an ID...and how many more he could get just flashing a badge. People will always be the weakest link. Edit: SQL for the foreseeable future. I work at a corporation running emulations of 60 year old hardware for chunks of their operations because they've never decided to update. We call it going greenscreen, because the software emulates the old green CRT terminal monitors. Everything we do is command line based. We basically have an emulation of the whole network (server and terminals) on each device, and they all regularly sync to make sure everyone is on the same page.
“Why is this air freshener connected to the internet”
It's a _smart_ air freshener
Has to download that fresh air from out of country, obviously!
XD XD XD Your description is hellarius.
💀💀💀
To auto surf for new brands on sale?
I didn’t know it was actually possible to have “hacker gloves”
Probably for really bad carpal tunnel
@@johntucker3695 Cold environments too, maybe? I used to have my comp sci class as the first class of the day in high school and on cold days I could barely type for a good portion at the beginning of class.
@@JKTCGMV13 This sounds sarcastic but that is actually very interesting. I never really thought about how cold hands would make it harder to type.
Shows whos not a hacker then.
It's needed because of hand sweats
Mr. Robot is really cool. Thank you for featuring it here!
In Mr. Robot he could have noticed some easy to spot defect like SQL injection, saw an input argument to a function which just got invoked as a DB statement as is. That kind of a defect can be spotted quickly an no need to dig into the code. Enjoyed the video, thank you!
Finally, they got a hacker who REALLY knows what she’s talking about
They have done 3 other of these pieces with other Hackers.
@@gavinvelez1468 OP is saying that those three didn't know what they were talking about.
The video was boring af.
@Nybbl er The content of this video is for kids, though.
@Nybbl er It's actually kind of perfect for those with adhd if it interests them enough for them to hyperfocus on it.
Excellent presentation skills, good sense of humor, knows not only what's going on in the scenes but able to put them in context. She gets 10/10.
And she is very beautiful
She also makes this a fun experience and doesn't take the clips too serious. She respects that Hackers or Matrix for example are movies with a lot of goofy stuff happening that are nowhere near realistic - but she's focussing on the things that might or might not be accurate, which is very nice. If you've seen certain expert reacts episodes on gameology you know what I'm talking about.
The most informative video I have seen on this channel! Never knew what the backdoor operation meant, even after research. She explained it so well with the "secret handshake" analogy. On point 👌
I absolutely love season 1 of Mr. Robot. There has never been a mind ducking of that level for me. I was so looking forward to new episodes with extreme excitement and enjoyment. No other show has done that for me. I miss the characters.
I feel like Mr. Robot has some of the most realistic examples of hacking to date
@G T Or the FBI paid Microsoft to keep the backdoors open. It literally happened with Wanacry.
Also some of the most idiotic and boring tv shows ever.
@@ghostabastard2208 What's idiotic about it?
@@ghostabastard2208 you really are a high school drama enjoyer, go watch your vampire diaries and call it entertaining
@@ghostabastard2208 You justify your answer.
I'm surprised that so many competent scenes were found for analysis. I didn't realise this many existed.
Watch the Mr. Robot series. Arguably the best show about a hacker so far.
Her ❤️ for the Hackers movie is well deserved. The movie was a milestone in 1995. The music, visuals and ideas for the first time communicated metaphors that where reasonable for the depicted concept. Apart from that it was just cool and fun to watch.
The part with the aliens knowing SQL had me dead
Very proud of Mr. Robot. Its attention to realistic hacking is very much appreciated.
In some ways, the errors in the terminal session graphics in Mr. Robot (season 1) bothered me more (or in different ways) than shows which don't even try to be realistic. Like, if you're seriously trying to be realistic, actually get the fine details right. Stuff I remember included having the command prompt printed at the left of the output of the command, so you know they didn't actually set up a test network that would let them just run `nmap` or whichever command it was. Like, you were so close, but clearly just made this image in an image editor, not on a real terminal session. Or another scene had the arguments backwards to ln for making a symlink. It's ln -s target_name link_name_to_create not the other way around. I've used GNU/Linux as my desktop OS for about 25 years, mostly with the command line other than a web browser. Plot-wise I appreciated the accuracy of what hacks can/can't do, but the expectation of accuracy made things like that break suspension of disbelief for me for a few minutes each time, and made me want to double-check every other screen image.
@@Peter_Cordes hi, fella nerd
@@Peter_Cordes Even if the hacking isn’t completely accurate, you can see the effort that was put into those sequences. This is also entertainment, so some creative liberties must be taken. It’s a bit like _Breaking Bad_ . The show looks like it’s teaching you how to perform these cool illegal things, but if they showed you how to do it verbatim, it could potentially be very problematic.
@@justincruz5720 - My issue wasn't with any "hacking commands" or techniques, instead with the basic appearance of the UI sometimes, or with a basic command like `ln` (similar to file-copy, a bit like DOS `copy`). As an analogy, imagine if Top Gun had had incredibly realistic dogfighting techniques, but occasionally they left the landing gear down while doing so. (More people know about planes than about Unix/Linux, and it's not a perfect analogy.) Or maybe a Windows analogy: if somebody ran a program, and its window appeared behind the desktop icons instead of on top. People who use Windows regularly would be saying "WTF" the one time that happened; people who don't might not notice. If the things that bothered me don't bother other people, that's great. It wasn't a showstopper for my enjoyment of the show, but it did bug me and stick in my memory. The realism of the actual hacking was great, just an occasional error in the super basics, like having the command prompt appear at the left of output lines of a command. So if they had a Unix/Linux user reviewing the screen images, that one slipped through the cracks. As for getting `ln` args backwards, that's more understandable; I sometimes have to think about it when I use it, and from some perspectives it seems backwards. So that's just an amusing reminder that they mock this stuff up in an image editor instead of actually running it. Easy to imagine someone getting that backwards even if they do know Unix/Linux command line tools. But still, if you notice it, it's a clear reminder this isn't real. :/
@@Peter_Cordes Is any of it real? 😂 In all seriousness, I heard Sam had some programmers as consultants to help work on the show.
When she said you can do beautiful things with code, she didn't mean graphics, she meant elegant code that a master of the art looks upon with tears of joy.
It really is like looking at a piece of fine art when someone does a nice code. I’m not a coder but man is it beautiful.
You guys and your 'nice code'. Spaghetti is a feature, not a bug! if it was hard to write, it should be hard to read!
@@petertrudelljr 😂
@@petertrudelljr You can also claim that the spaghetti code is a form of "obfuscation"
yes but , if I wrote a beautiful program whose aim is to produce spaghetti code , would it still be beautiful ? would that program be spaghetti complete ? what if I wrote a spaghetti meta code , to produce spaghetti code , would that be considered a spaghetti machine ? would goldon ramsay's brain halt ?
In Trinity's full-finger glove defense, she's inside the Matrix, she doesn't actually need to touch the keys to type, it's her mind injecting commands into the simulated machine: she may not even be touching the keys, she's just making the gesture of typing to signal that she's doing it.
IP addresses in movies that are out of range is not a goof, it's intentional and done for legal reasons. Similar to the 555 prefix in movie phone numbers.
I really enjoyed this, nice to see at least a chunk of them are making efforts to get it marginally correct. But, I got a 2-ad-break after every single scene she analyzed. Skippable ads, but dear God it's annoying to see a cluster of ads every 3 minutes.
haha noob
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14:58 *remote hack starts driving a car* Me: haha ridiculous 1/10 Keren: "This is a real-world hack..." Me: ah yes I love the realism
I was at one of those demo where they did it (with a bunch of other tech me). At first everyone was searching for a cheat thinking it was a trick then everyone started hacking and doing it themselves. Ended up being the show stopper event of that conference. Haha
its pretty real, maybe not in the exact points but CAN exploitation or Controller Area Network exploitation is very very real, CAN is the interface often used in cars, all it is is finding the CAN address and Network, Sniffing the data off of that interface, making a bluetooth logger hang onto the card ( Most CAN interfaces have bluetooth ), dumping the information and exploiting the device if there is a working or current vulnerability that has not been patched yet or has been abandoned by the developers
Love the "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" clip. Something I keep having to explain to my customers who use the pdq to pay is why it no longer beeps when they push a button for their PIN. :D
Regarding the last one: My guess is that they deliberately used an invalid IP address, just like all phone numbers in US-movies that start with 555. Being off by a single digit indicates to me that they knew exactly what they were doing there.
Elliot isn't simply set up to be above average intelligence, he's basically portrayed as a genius of I.T!
He is a savant in the hacking world.
Na he is a 1337
Yeah, above average is like... some guys working at FB or something like that. Elliot definitely is in the top 1% of the top 1% programmers.
Alex North That's why it's being called unrealistic. It's simply not possible for any human to do what he did in basically 2 mins. That was a poor execution by the show's writer and directors, kind of ruined the hard work that the security consultant put in.
@@randomuser5237 Well he could have done a preview of the CTF. Or maybe just lucky on solving things out, considering his proven skills since he was a kid. But I do agree if you are pointing ot other scenes on the series where they are extremly lucky or you just notice a plot-tool, by the percentage not likely but technically yes the exploits and ways on Mr.Robot is great.
I had zero surprise when she said that Hackers (1995) movie was her absolute love... c'mon, it's every hackers holy grail and in most cases inspiration to become one.
I am older for me it is "wargames"
Even when it came out everybody I knew that knew anything about computers loved that movie, but as an ironic comedy rather than a thriller. The music was spot on and clearly somebody did research lots of real stuff involving hackers. But then hollywood got ahold of that info and just threw it around all slapdash and made a complete mess of it. The scene where they are using acoustic couplers in phone booths for VR rigs is just peak absurdity. For reference, assuming you have the world cleanest connection you might maintain a connection of a few hundred bits per second. A decent typist can type faster than you can transmit on a connection like that and the machine will start beeping at you because the keyboard buffer is full.
@@peterjeffery8254 both for me.....
Doubt
@@peterjeffery8254 yep. Wargames, Sneakers, and Hackers are why I am in infosec now.
I am personally interested in this subject and it is a major eye-opener to see someone with a professional background rate movies.
A lot of the points deducted were for things happening faster than they would in real life. I'm willing to be a bit more forgiving about those because screenwriting is all about hitting your story beats as quickly as possible. Nobody wants to watch a hacker stare at a monitor for hours on end. You can do it with a montage like Hackers did, but even montages get tedious if you use too many.
To be fair a way I would get around that is show something else that is simultaneously going on. And if not that, a quick cut to an outside shot showing light being at a deeper angle also helps. It will be subtle, but people watching Mr Robot would probably notice
Can't believe you didn't show her the iconic NCIS scene
The part where they're both typing on the same keyboard is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen... 😆😂🤣
Would be hilarious if she confirmed it was real
That's low-hanging fruit to pick. So obvious even to someone slightly familiar with computer.
Can you imagine the sheer volume of mockery that actress gets for that scene? That is like, her whole life! lol
@@TigerGreene Personally, I don't put most of the blame on the two actors, I also blame the writers, directors, editors, etc. Someone should've pointed out that it was dumb and nobody did! It's crazy to me that so many people had to be involved, like with any scene, and that made it on the show. Also, I doubt anybody gives her too much grief, cuz Abbie was everybody's goth tech bae fantasy, that some didn't even know they had. It's universal, even people who aren't into goth love Abbie! 😍😆
Me: *takes one single computer science class in college* Also me: “You know I’m somewhat of an hacker myself”
considering you need zero computer science classes to be a hacker, that is ok. You mostly need an interest in understanding how things work and a will to look up it up until you do. Hackers are creative tinkerers. A computer science education does help in getting a broad set of basics and get them right. Some things you might otherwise not even know you would want to look up.
More like the "hacker" reacting to this is: "Considered somewhat of a hacker" lol.
@@lePoMo it's gonna take you a lot if you didn't finish some kind of computer science degree. There's just so much to learn. It takes a lot of work in college with mentors that can teach you. Think about what would it take if you were to learn it alone...
@@lePoMo bruh you just can't "Look up" stuff related to hacking, it's not that easy.
@@CG-ej8nu What about those textbooks and reddit? I can't be a hacker? :C
"I've been in cyber security for more than 25 years." - The one thing she has hacked most: Aging
Blackhat (2015) is the most hack accurate and underated movie i ever watched. I wanted it be in the list 😭
Its so fuckin boring. I forgot its about hacking several times throughout the movie
@@martintekula Because hacking is boring, if it was so entertaining everyone would be a hacker. Moreover, hacking requires social ingenieering capacities that most geeks don't have.
@@Darkes336 no that wasnt the case as i mentioned there was hardly any hacking and it was boring without it
@@Darkes336 did you even see the movie?
Being an ex white hat hacker myself I understood everything she said as I get frustrated sometimes with hackers in movies but you must understand it is done for entertainment. Real hacking is boring and tedious, well until you hack something then it gets exciting.
Script goes brrr
Except Mr Robot is not boring at all. Granted he is supposed to be a super genius and almost all of his attempts are immediately successful.
Ex-white hat hacker AKA current black hat 🤣😜
Teach me.
😂 id love to see a movie where the hacker says i need a month, start researching for 2 weeks, build some hard and software for another 2 weeks and than just simply fries the target because he accidently made a ground loop xD
Me who can't even print hello world in C language- hmm..looks interesting
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As a 2nd year CS student currently working with C and C++, I wouldn’t hold that against yourself. C is hell. Try python instead.
I was "alphabetized" in Java. I hate C so much. I'm learning C# but Python sure is a given of the Heaven
I think Python is way to go for hacking
As someone who used to play CTFs, I wish we had more of them (I would participate with my college, usually doing reverse engineer stuff)
Loving this info. Good stuff. 💗
Bogus IP addresses might be a movie thing like putting "555" in a phone number. An actual IP address probably belongs to a computer and will undoubtedly get unwanted attention from real hackers and unnecessary litigation for filmmakers. So, I wouldn't take points away because of the fake IP as it's an entertainment-inspired legal deal, possibly.
Doubt they are smart enough to think about that
Doesn't really matter if you use private IPs
It's to make sure not to use real IP address, same as tel number and avoid getting sued! Maybe there are laws, or rules, about it! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@androgynousmaggot9389 If they showed a real IP address in a scene and then that IP address got DDOSsed afterwards the owner of the IP would sue for sure.
@@nonyabidness6492 They used the number 256 in an ip address in the picture, which is exactly 1 higher than allowed. So it seems pretty deliberate, hard to imagine that they would have picked that number randomly.
''Hey, why does that air freshener have an internet cable plugged in? - ''Don't worry about it''
-It's a POE powered air freshener.
There used to be a big problem with people just picking up any random USB stick and plugging it in. Hackers would leave malicious USB sticks lying around at banks, offices, etc, and a surprising amount would get plugged in. Policies on USB sticks have changed, especially at banks, this is a huge no no.
You’d be surprised on how many times people don’t question that type of thing.
It's for the Fragrances DLCs
This has got to be one of the best KZhead series on out there.
I feel like that Star Trek scene was on purpose since the Discovery series was based on pre Captain Kirk technology which ironically was written in the 1960s. That 1/10 should be a badge of honor
Hollywood hacking: *Frantic typing at a 3D visual effects animation* "I'm in."
It’s no surprise that David Fincher’s movies are some of the highest rated. His attention to detail translates to showing off real world hacking techniques
In fact, I expected 10/10. Even the Linux version the character uses looks like the the one we had then!
For anyone who loves real life hacking stories, "The Cuckoo's Egg" was a great read, a true account in the very early days of the internet about an astronomy grad student who got roped into chasing a hacker around through various school and military networks.
That book was amazing and the author Clifford Stoll is on KZhead but he usually talks about his other pursuits like his klein bottles. Not only is the book good but it might be the first time someone laid the groundwork on how to deal with a digital intruder instead of just kicking them off the network.
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Keren is adorable, smart and expert. I have followed her for years. Great video!
"... using open source intelligence, which is a fancy term for 'the internet.'" 😄 Love it, Keren!
Five seconds in I knew this would be a great episode when Keren shouted "This is terrible!" and "YIKES" at those scenes. We need a part 2, and she needs to be in it!
Awesome video! Hackers is what made me want to be in Cybersecurity.
Damn, i remember when the SSH vulnerability was published. Everyone at work went mental, only a week to patch
I really can’t suggest mr robot any more. It’s an absolute masterpiece.
It’s slow and not for everyone
@@moonpie7982 I agree,I watched the first few episodes with my friends and they quickly got bored.
It is AMAZING
It's basically the 4chan version of Fight Club.
Mr.Robot is like watching ART. My favourite series ever
Needless to say this is one the many reasons why I keep my Laptop Camera covered with tape.
While leaving the one on you cell uncovered I would pressume.
@@rdarkmind nope got that covered too.
@@MrSparda1989 I have a lot of co-workers and friends with laptop cameras covered but you're the first person I hear to have your phone camera covered as well. Kudos to you! Too bad you can't 'cover' your microphone if you want to actually use your phone for talking with people.
mine came with a cover built in to the case B)
@@alexgigelu Just turn off your phone, lol
I remember watching an interview with the small company that built that shell and some hackers that helped the Matrix script writers add this to the movie. They were very proud to show how realistic it was.
She was pretty generous with her evaluations 😂 and super harsh on Star Trek! But yeah maybe we are stuck with SQL indefinitely so that part may be true 😆
Heh yeah Star Trek wasn't trying to accurately depict future hacking, they were just throwing out some words for curious kids to search. SQL injection is like the easiest thing that occasionally still works irl so it's a good way to get people interested in the subject
"When i first saw this show, I shut down my tv that very second" I had a similar reaction after watching 5m of Gravity being a physics student
Gravity hurt my soul, so much wrong you could write a thesis on how bad it is.
To be fair, they did dissect Gravity with a real astronaut. He didn't like it either...
@@viktorhauk yeah, i saw Chris Hadfields review and i saw how angry he got, specially of how pathetically written Sandra Bullocks character was. Extremely disrespectful towards the younger generation of women, who aspire to be in this privilege position of being an astronaut
It was entertaining enough, most don't give a shit about how accurate it is.
@@alexnorth3393 Mainly because most people don't understand the subject. Science is not exactly what ppl care about the most.
I'm shocked they didn't review the most powerful hacker of all time: Hackerman from Kung Fury. You won't ever catch him on rookie mistakes like wearing fingered gloves. I learnt everything I know from that guy.
Damn you just brought back so much nostalgia
[ synth wave soundtrack intensifies ]
// _HACKERMAN_ //
Where did you get the gloves you're wearing in that video from? I love them
Great and very realistic review! Just for fun, it would like nice to see Independency Day: some guys hacking a unknown alien SO in minutes!
Great video! But I am missing Swordfish's infamous scene where Hugh Jackman is doing a weird 3d puzzle to hack something 😂
😂😂😂
Wait. Hackers don't actually have chiseled pecs and a muscular a$$ and look like models?
lol i thought u were gonna say halle Berry's sunbathing scene
@@jojotwice8918 Halle Berry: *goes topless* “I’m in.”
I am a automobile security researcher. Everything she depicts is accurate. Even with driverless vehicles, I would be hard pressed to make the vehicle perform the maneuvers depicted in the movie. Just FYI, your vehicle’s computer systems are incredibly insecure. It is frightening just how insecure they are.
It's only certain models that can do the remote thing. The factory has to install the 'On Star' feature. It usually comes with a price tag to the end user who purchases the vehicle. But what she stated in the scene about computing power; that's real. You maybe able to hack in to the system. But that's really as far as your able to go. You would need some top of the line servers to make that all happen that quick.
I don't own a car, but I do not like that all appliances and even cars are becoming smart. Give me my stupid fridge and a car that just needs a key to open it. It only creates weak spots where things can break (or be broken into).
@@fightingfalconfan servers have nothing to do with it.
@@snazzypazzy The fact is, things much more vital than your car or fridge are already potentially vulnerable to hacking. Interconnectivity goes hand in hand with globalization. Cyber security is, and always has been, an arms race and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.
@@anthonymonge7815 You would need processing power. I'm not sure how similar it would be to running a brute force attack. I've seen computers with 4,6, even 8 PCIe slots that house as many GPU's to utilize their processing power for password cracking. I would have to assume you would need something similar but on steroids to manage that type of attack. Even so, I doubt the NICs in self-driving cars are broadcasting their network traffic in plain text. Thats just something you dont see anymore with AES. I think self-driving cars use GPS and proximity sensors to navigate and I'm sure theres some kind of AI that processes the information in real time. Im sure we will see self-driving car hacks happen with greater frequency in the coming years.
Thank you!!!!! I know Hackers isn't exactly accurate sometimes, but I LOVE that movie. Made me interested in computers more than I was already as a teenager. Unfortunately, the math required for a CS degree seems beyond my reach and in the 90s they didn't have stuff like coding classes in high schools. I don't feel smart enough to understand programming languages. At least my son (who just turned 18) can understand it - he's applying for university and planning on a computer engineering degree.
You really don’t need to know advanced math. Just the basics.
As a software developer, I hate how movies make coding out to be this thing that can be done in a breeze with no time needed at all. Idiots try to contract me to build super complex software and say "this should be easy if you know what you're doing" ... Hollywood and the American education system are to blame.
As a computer engineering student, I am having fun learning this kind of video
She said she had been in cybersecurity for 25 years,lol, I would believe if anyone said to me she is just 22 yrs. Old
She's 41 years old
@@ajay4319really ? but she looks young tho
@@joshjosh2842 yep.
@@pet.me102 she's fit too
this is what happens when you never see daylight lol
it's been 2 years, need more hacking videos
Clicked on thumbnaile hoping for Hackers reference. Absolutely loved that movie growing up.
"we can tell she's a hacker. She's got all those stickers on her laptop" Me: looks over at my laptop. I'm a hacker! 🙌
In all fairness, Trinity is in the Matrix when she's hacking. Given the powers she has about bending the rules of the simulation, including jumping across streets from building to building and kinda flying thru tiny windows w/o a scratch, outrunning Agents, typing correctly with leather gloves doesn't strike as unbelievable... I think we can grant her the 0.5 back :)
A reason for showing an impossible IP address is that it will never exist and can never be attacked, this is the same as phone service providers have some valid format numbers which are never issues so that film production companies can use them on screen.
The gloves…the gloves are all I needed to see and I knew 🤣
I am SOOO glad that most of my IT work was done before ransomware. In all honesty that is the main reason I stopped. It was fun keeping things running, but it is not fun having to play defense 24/7. May the gods bless all you brave souls that picked up the torch.
tbh securely backing up your data and not installing HappyFunTime.exe from some random USB stick in the parking lot should be enough to play defense.
@@digitalcyclone7218 In the old days I had one of my users request a new 3.5-inch boot disk every day. One day I followed her and noticed that after she used it she secured it by using a magnet to hold it to her desk drawer. After that I put NOTHING past the masses. Also, the number of times I came into a new client only to find that there backups were not working properly for years is only surpassed by the stars in the sky. Hopefully these newer generations of techno-savvy users will mitigate some of these issues, but I spent decades teaching Luddites not to click on spam links.
@@theelvenwtich fair enough tbh.
They were generous in picking the scenes to analyze, simply because there are many more examples to bury under a 1/10 than there are worthy of a 5+/10 🤭
So true, I'm not a huge tech wizard for a 22 year old, but I know most hack scenes are b.s. This was a fun episode for me to learn something new.
Swordfish is the film that comes to mind.
Blackhat was horrendous. On par with swordfish.
she gave the movie hackers a 8 out of 10 lol those gibbons and gifs in the malware the sprinkler system is connect to the internet the lights in the building just so much in that movie lol
@@joejacko1587 bro can you stop spamming this shit all over the comments
16:59 I worked in IT 30 years, from the birth of the internet onwards, ie 1978-2008, ina large IT deptment running 3000 servers and 10,000 workstations on a distributed WAN. No one in the entire dept was allowed to write down server passwords. You entered them into a log book, that was kept in a safe, accessible by only team heads, and everyone else had to memorise the ones they used. Writing a server password down was a sackable offfence, as was changing a server password without logging it.
lmao, the culprit is never the IT usually just some ceo/cfo/owner with increased privileges that has her/his password on a post-it as changed by her/his personal assistant...
There were some older versions of browsers that used a modified IPv4 instead of a true Ipv6 because it wasn't fully implemented yet so they used a workaround that allowed numbers over 256 in an IP address. Also, some internet backbone systems used to use numbers higher than 256 so that most computers wouldn't be able to access them directly. Now almost all computers just use IPv6.
I was expecting a "This episode was brought to you by today's sponsor, express vpn.."
I've actually seen 2 popups for Express VPN that show my IP address and location as a way of showing how "insecure" my information is. They told me I was in New Jersey, but I think I should be pretty safe. I'm in Canada, already using Express VPN :/
👆🇱🇷🇱🇷 I appreciate the name above 👆👆he helped me to gain access to my deceitful husband phone without him knowing.he is a genius.
thanks to those ads I looked up free VPNs, and obviously downloaded malicious bullshit.
I was hoping she'd look at "Goldeneye" to see if Boris' SPIKE program was possible....
Slug head!
Even she wouldn't be able to stop it, because he is INVINC-EE-BLE!
I think she would start with what terrible typist both Boris and Natalya were.
might be a way to keep the relay on over buffering but it wouldn't work on all modems i doubt it would really work on any modem tracert is a thing but yea there is so much wrong there
1:00 They actually corrected this in the most recent Bond movie. He didn't try to use a VM to open the files, but he at least opened them on a separate laptop, before transferring to him main PC.
I must say that the ransomware prediction was on spot. The thing that the film makers have thought of that possibility much earlier than first real world successful attempts, that's quite astonishing. Movies and novels actually predicted a lot of stuff before. Take Jules Vernes for example. His sci-fi novels might have been unrealistic then, but look at today. We fly in the sky in planes, we dive deep into an ocean in a submarine. His writing was so on point that he's deemed as the theoretical author of many inventions. Space travels were also predicted by Jules Vernes. While the actual travelling in space wasn't actually done, I think that landing on the Moon in 1969 would count as a space travel. Predicting something in a cyber security field is actually amazing.
serial killers rating killing scenes "hey, that's actually good" takes out notebook
As a hacker I can confirm she is very knowledgeable - good job 👍
Hacking and slashing those Minecraft sheep
Are You really a hacker?
@@raulrus9026 i doubt it
Indeed I too am a real hacker and can confirm
@@orye09 I can vouch that this dude is really a hacker
Regular people don't realize this, but, servers require cold rooms. Any tech room is absolutely cold. Many offices with cubes are kept cold. People who work in these environments often wear coats, sweaters, and these gloves. The gloves allow typing and they keep the hands warmer.
Why is she even wearing any gloves to explain?!!