Razer Blade 14 vs Asus ROG Zephyrus G14. Graphic performance review of the Razer Blade 14 compared to the G14. The 140w 4070 is SUPER weird.
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Always a vibe to watch Dave talk about tech when im not buying anything
You mean “can’t afford to buy anything”.. like in my case. 😂😂
i saw you like 15 minutes ago....
hows life
“Not buying anything” a comment already said that, interesting
Bruh I used my money to buy tech from 2018
140 Watts of weirdness
They wanted to flex but it went wrong
LOVE the dark background Dave. Looks way better
NEED subtitles for a giant youtuber like you 😂😂😂😂
You mean of goodness?
Blame Nvidia for capping the card.
2:17 Nvidia confirmed to me that this is intentional and how the 4050/4060/4070 are designed to be. All three hit voltage limit around 100W in games, but some workloads can go higher. Even so, the fact that they can't in games and that brands keep advertising gaming models as 140W feels misleading.
It doesn't "feel misleading". It _is_ misleading, because if the one workload that seems to allow those GPUs to go over 100 watts or so is a synthetic test (FurMark), but real workloads can't, then it is absolutely misleading.
of course it IS intentional. It is a way to get people to buy 4080 and 4090 laptops more.
Can we just take a minute of silence for those who are watching Tech videos without buying anything 😞
well duh, in this economy
Too poor.
I will always watch consumer tech videos, for the one day in which I might POSSIBLY be able to buy one. Plus I just love tech.
I'm sticking with my 2021 g14. It works great for what I need. Don't need anything else
I don’t know how they will solve it in the future. I think they can’t sell gaming laptop the way Apple / Samsung sells their flagship phones. Spending $2000 every year for a new laptop is a game not many people can afford.
I think your production quality is extra crispy lately, big props to you for the animations, graphs and the whole aesthetic in general
Its gotta be that new luscious hair
Yeah it’s that hair
I'm so glad you addressed the performance flatlining after feeding it a specific amount of wattage on 4050-70. With last generation people were missing out on performance because they didn't look at TGP. Now this generation when peoople have learned their lesson they'd be willing to pay extra for a gpu with higher TGP and they're basically getting ripped off. Why get a bulkier laptop with 140W 4060/70 (and pay extra for it)when you could pick up a slimmer one (that's not necessarily thin) that caps at around 105W
lenovo legion slim has 115W 4070, that’s what i went for
fucking Nvidia bullshit
Nvidia : eyy gottem
Or the same size and thickness, but has a capped 105W 4060/70 so the extra power feeds into the CPU, increasing the CPU performance so the CPU bound games can get extra FPS
@@sihamhamda47 Yeah it already looks like it's at the size sweet spot. Mine's a bit thinner and thermals are major concern.
Even for the 4060 version Razer is selling it at $2400, where as Asus G14 selling their 4060 for $1600. The upgradeable RAM is a great new addition but seems like every year Razer is still making mistakes with their designs.
Razor got better build quality. It’s more premium than the ZEPHRUS. It’s kinda like a gaming MacBook basically
@@maximilianschmidt5941 yeah I like the chassis, looks and feels more premium. But the paint chips easily and I don’t like the keyboard and speakers on this. Not sure if speakers improved over previous gen. If it has MacBook Pro level speakers it would be much better
@@maximilianschmidt5941 except their quality control is absolutely trash, they still couldnt address their battery issues :/
I have 2021 version - no battery issues.
Razer made a decision, have removable RAM but with the reduction in space so sacrificed performance of the GPU. It seems this design cannot have both. I assume they will redesign for next year to mend this flaw. What they should have done, if possible, was kept the soldered RAM and had the space for the better GPUs. At this pricing, for one generation, that was a bad call. Of course, the design may not have been able to handle the extra GPU performance, so in that case, Razer made the best of a bad situation.
Dave needs to make a guide on how to produce short but precise and detailed videos . It's so clean and pleasing to watch! i think i have never skipped any portions of any of his videos because there's nothing annoying or unnecessary . Kudos for making such videos man.
Look up "how to make an infomercial"
Razer has always priced their products pretty high but 2700 for that is just crazy.
They think they apple
Yeah they think their consumer would buy it at any given price lmao. I have 5 Razer mice, Viper Mini (bought from China sites, $25) - Basilisk X Hyperspeed (same China site, $30) - Viper Ultimate (second-handed, $40) - Viper V2 Pro (second-handed from China site, $62) - Deathadder V3 Pro (second-handed, $75). I love their mice, and it honestly are all good, but priced horribly so i never bought a brand new one lol
@@TKaz10😂😂😂brooo
This is why when it comes to laptops, I always value what Dave says first
Bruhh Jarrod's tech showed much before. Don't be a fan of youtuber or make them your only reliable source. They're humans and humans are imperfect.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombatBruhh then by extension AI is also imperfect because it was made by humans, and I'll give an example, yesterday it told me Doom 2016 was released for MacOS 😢,
Eh, I bought a Blade because of Dave's review years ago - it was the worse laptop I've ever owned due to multiple issues and ultimately a dead motherboard right after the warranty expired.. Turns out, Blades have a way worse reputation among typical users than other brands.
ASUS is also usually a safe bet because they really know what they‘re doing and seemingly have a lot of insider knowledge because they often release their products first and they’re well optimized by then
@@BradHebert Sorry to hear that, gaming laptops have improved since then but they are still a ticking bomb in my opinion, I feel like the power the components need along with the space constraints makes it a *killer* combination in the literal sense. This will not change until they make something like Apple did with the latest laptops, where the components are powerful but the power consumption is so low they last all day. If Apple was smart enough they would have leveraged game development by know but they are not. Somebody else will.
Very Informative. Explanatory videos like this are the best since most people like me are very poor knowledge in these matters. Thanks for the video.
Incredible, the way Dave comunicate is so professional no extra emotion no extra drama, always a clear delivery of the message.
Hi Dave, I almost never comment your videos - even though I have been following you for years now! - but I have to say that I especially liked this investgation-related video 🙂. The data presented as well as your hypothesis at the end of the video are very relevant! It is just a shame that you do not explain in more detail how you collected it and... please give to your charts and plots more time in screen (they barely appear for a few seconds 😂). Anyway, thank you again for all this high-quality content you have been bringing to us for the last years 👌
usually i would be blaming razer for manipulating marketing with malicious intent, but I'm leaning more towards blaming nvidia for their tomfoolery with laptop gpus. They're so inconsistent and difficult to work with as a gpu provider that I'm not surprised things like this happen. I mean there's a reason evga cut off their contract and they said themselves that it's because nvidia is so hard to work with. Razer went for a different approach when designing this laptop and clearly there was an intention to get more performance with that 140W, otherwise it just doesn't do them any good.
As someone who is brief to point in my communications. I love how Dave fits so much information in 5-8 min videos.
The low bass at the intro tho.... 😮😮😮. Woooo, had to play that multiple times. You gotta have a headset on to heard it fully tho😬
Dave is so brilliant for pulling up those Blade 16 numbers. wowow. And then compliments there where it's deserved. So respectable haha.
The 4090s and 4080s have larger die size, but not necessarily larger package size. The whole 60 to 80 (90) series usually share the same package size, as to reduce complications in laptop design. But the 50 tier has a smaller package size to fit in smaller laptops. Unfortunately, Nvidia does not release package size info.
Package refers to the bright green PCB the die is attached to, right? Then that doesn’t take into account that A) the higher tier GPUs have more VRAM, which means more dies and thus more space, and B) that ideally you would expect the higher end configs to have more VRMs, which also takes up more space. Couldn’t you get the blade 14 with a 3080 for the last two years? I just seriously doubt they’d cede the “most powerful 14 laptop” to the g14 willingly.
True, extra die size won't make any big difference, but will cost more. Razer chose easy way out by false marketing.
They also fit in 3080 tis in the past which are bigger chips.
@@jwkelley The Higher tier chips have more Vram modules....4050 has 3, 4060 and 4070 has 4 modules.....4080 has 6, 4090 has 8. In order to make space for two ram sticks instead of soldering them down...they took up as little space as possible. check out the previous razer blade 14.......the 3080 had 8 modules like this years 4090.....the vapour chamber ran all the way down to the middle next to the battery to fit that 3080.......This year they had to "create" space for the ram. by reducing how much space they give the gpu....thus the 4060/4070 cap.
Very nice video, cooling a 14 inch slim laptop is pretty hard, the g14 does it very well but the io ports are pushed forward though. Super short and crisp videos.
I love how concise yet informative your videos are, your content is always top notch!
Great catch! This is proper tech journalism.
Really nice video and analysis. Makes a lot of sense... Have you had a chance to see/use/test the MSI Stealth 14 Studio and the Zenbook 14 Pro OLED. How do they compare to the above 2 in your personal opinion???
nice to know about this gpu flattening above 100w , I was looking to buy 4070 laptop, now I am more informed on how to see behind the marketing , thank you
always liking the deep dive into specs and performance test..
An important factor would be the sound level and the heat. I have the Asus 14-inch with 2060
Good catch. Glad we have channels like yours keeping on eye on the market. Gotta make informed decisions when buying cause marketing material is rarely a good source for performance these days.
Broooo, your wallpapers are insane! Were could we find them ? Keep goging on what you doing, When Im stressed you chill me out with your videos!
I’ve been waiting for this laptop, and I am very happy to hear it finally has sodimm slots as that was what kept me from pulling the trigger on a leftover 3070ti blade 14. However it is similarly unfortunate that it’s stuck with a 4070 because of it. I’m not willing to buy a GPU with 8gb of Vram in 2023, and certainly not for 3 grand after tax. I was expecting to pay that price, but for a 4080. Gonna have reconsider my upgrade.
Critical videos make Dave a more trusted tech reviewer than others with way more subscribers.
I'm quite sure that sometime later this year or perhaps next, Razer will make an upgrade of this laptop, sticking to the same design but changing up the GPU. We've seen them do this before-like when they swapped out the Ryzen 5th gen for the 6th and tossed in a 3080Ti. I think, that over the next year or two, they won't do much with the design, but we'll see a hefty upgrade on the inside, possibly a RTX4070Ti or 4080Ti with an 8th gen Ryzen. Basically, this model is setting the stage for future laptops that will keep this design on the outside and inside but will be changing CPU and GPU die.
The wallpaper on the G14 looks Stunning! id love to hear where it came from.
it may be worth looking at the deciles of fps for different wattages on the same benchmark... the reason is the higher wattage may offer lower volatility in frame rates... so averaging these out may not show the full picture.
Awesome content! Even though I know a lot about pc tech, I've been watching your videos for years and I always use your great input.
Bought Razer Viper 8khz mouse... being exited about the 8Khz polling rate. Turns out if you run it at any polling rate more than 1000 hz, it leads to FPS drop (while moving the mouse) in FPS games. Had to tune down the mouse to 500hz.ate. Turns out if you run it at any polling rate more than 1000 hz, it leads to frame drop (while moving the mouse). Had to tune down the mouse to 500hz.
Jarrod tech also mentioned this about higher wattage 40 series laptops that they are performing same as lower ones.
I was looking to upgrade my 5900/3070 razer 14 but I'll hold off thanks Dave.
Is there any way to replace the G14 case to get rid of the Lamborghini grill? Just any plain metal or aluminum case would do for me
Thank you Dave! What watch do you have on your hand?
Can I ask where you get your wallpapers ? They always look so clean
My 2020 blade 15 running at 80watts in 2070super-MQ We ve gone so far in this 2,3 years man
I literally haven't watched a video from dave in like a couple months and I swear I was not expecting the longer hair and the few greys not bad, but it caught me completely off guard.
I missed your laptop analytics&review ✌️
i just bought the 2023 variant with the 4060 for 1250$ , i wanted the 2022 one but it wasnt available anymore on the clearance sale. I needed a good 14' inc laptop for school. Did i make a good decision?
One possible idea is that maybe in the future, there might be a way to uncap NVIDIA's TGP limit (if it is possible). If Razer will ship these models with objectively worse product (gpu) design than, for example, G14, for a substantial drop in price at the end of this year or in the 2024, it might be a capable laptop per price. One example was 11400F with a capped 65W TDP which could be unlocked with a proper (and relatively inexpensive B) motherboard. But that's unlikely
Love that you're growing your hair out btw, looks great
I'd be interested to see what your thoughts were between the 2023 G14 and the 2023 Zenbook 14 with the 4070.
Hi David. Why did you focus on your video only on the wattage? What about the other upgrades? Comparing the blade 14 performance with the G14 ones is not the only deciding factor. I care about the whole package like the quality and the form factor. Thanks.
and it depends too if there are other factors in the laptop that make it more expensive besides the gpu, making the price comparisons something different
Opted for the Razer Blade 14 2023 myself; but it all comes down to preference and use case. Amazing machines these two
Just tell me that you got it for the looks 😏
Dave, will you main the Blade mercury variant ?
You never disappointed me in any video of yours man, every single time I wish I don't reach "there you have it" part 😅 ... thanks a lot
Hey dave , Can you share one of the wallpaper which is on the razer 14 laptop you reviewed in this video !! I wonder , what's the source of your unique wallpapers...mind telling that as well !! Thanks !!
All of these reviewers should really share their wallpapers. Personally the wallpapers the people over at Hardware Canucks use always pique my interest.
What about the MSI Stealth 14? I really love it!
Can u review the zenbook pro 14 oled ux6404. May be a better choice than these. It's one of the main compartitor of drll xps 15
Name of Outro song? and where did you get that H2O by Fili you used to have? it's not on any streaming services.
another precise video. keep going. respect
Hey, Link to the wallpaper of the Razer?
Non-RT workloads have a harder time pushing power limits on RTX cards (at least on desktop) since you aren't using all parts of the die. Could you remake those charts using Port Royal or Speedway? Maybe with RT that point of diminishing returns will shift more to the right.
The wattage trick is a big issue actually. I bought an 16 inch asus oled laptop with gtx3050. Before buying I checked the performance of 3050 from internet and it seemed very good ( because the site was giving info based on max wattage of the 3050 which is 80 watts) little did I know that asus decided to keep max wattage of the GPU at 35 watts :(. So I now I have a laptop bought in 2022 with performance of a gtx960. It does not matter which GPU you are buying nowadays, you should check its power consumption set by the laptop manufacturer.
Perhaps you might review the ractual design terra ITX case...it even comes in green ?
Dave did you try to use the older nvidia driver ? I know the newer version one won’t go up over 120 watts.
The Razer 14 I got in 2021 was great at the start but in less than 2 years became almost unusable - right fan died, graphics driver issues and fixed 16 GB ram only, but at that time it was one of the best laptops around and I really needed to get one in the summer cos Legion series was delayed big time
Oh man that's sad to hear. I bought the 15" 2021 Asus Zephyrus and after a year it began falling apart: Had to replace the keyboard, the speakers are now dead and it has so many Windows and power issues. I was going to sell it and replace it with a Razer Blade, but maybe that's probably not a good idea either...
Did you charge it via USB-C? I’m getting a lot of inconsistencies when I charge it that way on my Razer blade 14 (2022).
my 2021 blade 14 has been daily driven for gaming for 2 years now with close to no issues.
I got me a 2022 Blade 14 running R6900hx with RTX3070ti last December for $1850 + tax.
From where do you get those wallpapers
The price is very bad on razer laptops, but they are never the brand for value, it’s sort of like MacBooks, you get a good performer for the form factor and not really any value. But I think they did a good job, going from both soldered to both replaceable ram, and the screen. The 140w even though offers no performance, if can at least make the gpu runs cooler.
I’d love to hear Dave’s thoughts on the Alienware X16 🤔👀
Please review a few mid range gaming laptops with RTX 4060 like acer predator 16/neo 16 or strix g16 etc
You didn’t mention one advantage of the Asus: It‘s got a mini Led display. I mean you can always lower the power limit and enjoy a chill system but it‘s a pity they aren’t offering the system with a 4080 at least. Asus is even cramming in a 4090..
where´s the classic outro...been missin it :( otherwise still one of the coolest tech chanels :)
great insights, keep doing this!
You never disappoint Dave
Ayyy! He fixed his hair. Dave was looking like Twinkjak in his last video! Love this man.
can someone tell me how to make the intro like dave !! Its so clean and on point
where can i find this specific wallpaper on the razer please?
ARMORED CORE 6 ON D2D... FINALLY! I seriously feel happy to see the AC series gain momentum these days.❤
The way he reviews laptops is so unique and original
When can we see the new ROG Flow X13 2023 + RTX4090 XG Mobile review ? Really look forward to it !!!
@1:34 Graphic issue 2023 G14 is the 7940HS -- for anyone wondering - later its fixed to showcase
Have you checked the latest stealth14 studio by MSI 2023?
Dave, the G14 and G15 have really bad bios and sleep issues. Could you please take a look at that? I own one, and it feels wrong each time it is recommended
I ve gotten myself last years blade 14 with rtx 3070 ti in sale for 2000€ and seems I am pretty lucky, runs Diablo 4 sweet and was not tooo expensive.
I was gonna get the Blade, and I will get the Blade but after the price drop, I guess. Upgradable RAM is a boon as my old Asus did not let me and eventually forced me to swap my laptop. If u have a mid or bonkers system in a Desktop with loads of RAM, having 32 Gigs or above in the lappy never makes me feel like I am downgrading when on the go in terms of snappiness. Down the like 10 years desktops might go out I guess.
How about a link to that wallpaper on the ASUS?
Where can I download that type of wallpapers for my laptop?
Do you think it's worth upgrading my 2022 blade 14 6900 with 3070 ti? Only thing I like about the 2023 is more than 16GB ram but I realized I don't play any games requiring more than 16gb of ram yet lol.
Do we soon get af Galaxy book 3 ultra review?
I still can't believe how well my 2020 G14 is holding up. Maybe I'll finally upgrade it next year :-)
Can you do a review on Samsun book 3 Pro?
Dave, could you bring out a video of the most powerful gaming laptops available? That would be pretty nice.
I wonder if undervolting and running OC would benefit these models in particular
My Zephyrus G14 started falling apart a week after the warranty expired. :-( Wires inside the hinge are going bad, causing problems with both the webcam & the screen. Plus the MicroSD card slot is no longer working! As an IT professional who's treated the device gently, I am really unhappy about this pricey of a device just falling apart after 1 year...
my 2020 has gotten extremely rough use and it still works well. Windows went badly after 1-2 years and linux mint ran horribly, but currently on endeavor os it is perfectly functioning
Link to the G14 wallpaper?
Does a higher gpu wattage drain the battery faster even when using no or low gpu related tasks?
@Dave2D where did you get that desktop wallpaper for the razer system? be nice if you put the links in the video info going forward.
did u find it?
i wish @@siddhantkothari9580
What are thermals/noise like? Because if they designed it for 140 but it’s only pulling 110, with 30W of overhead, does it improve thermals compared to the asus variant?
Love the new haircut bro
Going with the Razer, finally have upgradable RAM. First thing that I do is turn the power down anyway for heat and fan noise. Drop in performance is fine, if I wanted every single frame rate possible which I don't...I would just use a desktop anyway.
2:54 where can I download Dave's wallpaper??
Hey Dave when will you do a review on the latest Zephyrus G16? I am planning to purchase a new laptop, very confused between 2022 G15 (RTX 3060) and 2023 G16 (RTX 4050). The G15 has a good battery life and will also be going on sale due to being a year old. Whereas the new G16 is sharing the same body and display as the last years M16, just with a new Intel i9 and Nvidia chip and comes at the same price as the last years G15 unlike the M16 which was crazy expensive (Asus has killed the G15 and replaced it with G16). Waiting for your thoughts on the new G16. Pls do a review on it soon. 🙏🙏🙏
My 2021 14” has served me well. Definitely has some bugs but not deal breakers. I’m like 25% gaming 75% media creation. Runs very hot at full pelt! Very hot! Despite vapour cooling etc. I would NOT use this as a full time gaming machine.