What's Going On With All These Faked Speed Records?
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The SSC Tuatara achieve a top speed of 331 miles per hour, making it the fastest production car in the world...or did it? We unravel the mystery behind the most controversial top speed run in recent memory.
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Saying "tragedy struck" when talking about super cars testing top speeds it usually means the driver lost control at over 200mph and died, so it was a relief when you explained just the car was harmed
Wouldn't be such a tragedy if they didn't stretch the meaning of the word 'production' car so much as they would have several others to test with.
i thought the same
*TOTALED*
Well is a huge loss because that was the only Tuatara ever made buddy.
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Every time I hear a story like this I can't help but think - Just do the run again and prove it. It should be easy right?
It’s not easy to find a stretch long enough for a run like this and have access to it.
It's also not easy to have all the media and engineers fly out at the same time to film it.
Just getting road tyres to achieve them speeds is difficult enough. You can’t just pick a set off the shelf, there specifically designed for the task in hand and require R&D first!
@@yummyhershey5902 it's also not easy to get the wind speed and direction right everytime, a badly timed gust could toss a low aero car at 260mph
Same reason they're avoiding the election audit.
SSC's official response, months after getting busted "We were truly heartbroken as a company to learn we did not achieve... etc" They're still pretending they somehow misinterpreted their own data, as if they were as "surprised" as we were to learn they'd failed. As if they honestly couldn't tell the difference between 240 and 330 mph.
I agree that they're pretending, and it's not because of the difference between 240 & 330 MPH. When you get so fast, you seriously can't tell the difference.
They hit 270. They're upgraded model hit 290. It's really hard to tell the difference at that speed.
@@flyingturret208thecannon5 when?
@@Black-mx3hc When what?
Yea when I'm cruising 250+ I have to be careful not to go 330😂
Mind you, the onboard video, they purposely blurred the actual speedo of the car and only showed the GPS speed from the laptop. They knew what they were doing.
I guess video games aren't the only category where people fake speed runs lol
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SSC just forgot to uninstall their modpack that increases engine power obviously
Cough cough , dream
Hello Ben azelarts brother
Height, Years old , Penis size and Earnings are the usual exaggerations. I wanted to make an acronym, H.Y.P.E but speed or velocity exaggerations didn't fit. I dunno, got the big 4 brags, I like my acronym.
I’m used to seeing cars go 100 miles per hour by me on the 405 but, imagine 300 miles per hour 👀
@@feliciaalexis______5339 damn bro no way
hold up why are you here? I watch both you and donut and i never thought you'd cross paths
Well givin the car itself is on the edge of control, we will never see this type of stuff on highways....unless someone figures out how to delete physics
@@jazzyjonny1449 so many strange crossovers recently. everyone is at home on the internet i love it
First time i was on the autobahn with my shitbox, a porsche flew by me at probably 300+ kmh i cant even comprehend 300mph
I love how ssc says “we are heartbroken to know we didn’t achieve it”. Brother, it’s a speedometer, 2πr x number of wheel rotations. Even the the most basic ass speedo won’t have an 80 mph error
I find it strange that there is so little mention of Königsegg in pretty much all of these videos. There is one single car that can reach 330+MPH and that is the Jesko Absolut but they have been stopped from testing it at every facility they have requested. Gee, I wonder why...
To bad there isnt any good enough roads in Sweden for testing top speed.
@@ronniecato248 Really? I live north of the arctic circle, ALL car makers test their cars here.
@@michaelmay5453 Yes but not top speed runs
I'm not so sure those speeds are on the cards for Jesko Absolute. It may be slick, but "only" 1600 hp migh never suffice for a car whith side by side driver and passenger. Typically, we're told the power it takes to go a given speed take the power of the speed squared. However, 100 hp cars can get close to around 200 kph, but to go 400 kph, you really need 800 hp, it seems. So rather the cube of speed. To go 10% faster then takes 33% more power.
@@Cloxxki It's not that simple.
Oh the memories!
Yooo its misha I loved the Tom Scott video
These bone heads never mentioned the two guys who did the real work.
The OGs on this debacle!
Did you pay for bots to get this comment lol? Or are you just being spammed?
@@cybertree Targeted...They aim for high profile accounts comments, with many subs I mean, they tend to get more replies. Just report it ;)
The guy who made the subtitles had fun with all the "SSC" puns.
Glad someone else noticed that hehe
Wait. I went through the whole video again and I saw 3 or 4.
Riceflakes, is this what u were talking about? 13:30 After some time paSSCd
@@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis yep lol
@@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis i wil delete u
Nolan has come so far in these videos! Appreciate the content!
Before even watching more than 30 seconds of this video, I can tell you with absolute certainty it would be very easy to calculate exactly how fast the car was going, simply by measuring the distance between landmarks, and there are a lot of them in the form of little road signs, and the time it takes to pass each one. In fact such a calculation would be far more accurate than even the car's speedometer.
A phone would be accurate to the nearest kmph or mph, just a few decimal points off maybe, but in this day and age if a supercar manufacture can't even check with a phone they're either exceptionally dumb or a fraud.
Unless, of course, they altered the frame rate of the video.
@@juanfichtl2011 They need to invest in a 3DFX Voodoo card with anti-aliasing to take care of that.
Fish eye lens and poor camera angle would make it very difficult to say with certainty where exactly the car is in relation to its surroundings. On top of that, they could have fudged the playback speed of the footage which would make the time component of your calculations unreliable.
@@juanfichtl2011 Well, I wasn't talking about down to the 100th of a second. Speed records aren't really measured to that degree anyway. I mean, they certainly can be, but other than on closed course tracks like drag strips or race tracks, breaking land speed records isn't really calculated to such degrees. In fact, TRUE land speed records are calculated by averaging two runs. Just saying.
the fact that shelby's neck fit for every image 🤣
@ME shut up
@iche ches🧚♀️ brhu wth
@ME wth bro?
They’re bots, they do this everywhere.
@@FNTM2k3 wtf does this one mean tho
Well, I'm working on a project right now on making my Honda Civic the first +300 m.p.h. I've already calculated on how many stickers, carbon fiber bits, what color to paint the valve cover, and finally upgrade my V-TEC fluid (I've yet to find it). Many are saying that I'm literally thinking with a 3 year old's mind, and that I'm going to be the laughing stock of 2021. But it's like many of the greats have said before, "Anything is possible. You just have to imagine it." Well, baby, I'm imagining A LOT. They said the Sega Dreamcast would never beat the PS2. And look what happened. Dreams can come true.
You forgot to mention that the red H badge adds another 94.75HP
Don't forget to paint the car red, it's the most important step
Laughs in kawasaki H2R. What a loser.
Do it!!!
MAKE THAT V-TEC KICK IN YOOOO
Bugatti has an advantage when testing top speed. They have a private race track (Ehra-Lessien) dedicated to high speed runs that they (VW) obviously will not let other manufacturers set records on. The SSC's first record over the Veyron was set on a real highway in the USA. I still remember people thinking the Veyron was the fastest car, even with videos showing a Koenigsegg smacking Bugatti's around in roll racing. Bugatti setting records on their track is less impressive to me since it's an obvious advantage.
Bugatti is still faster tho lol
But dont forget the Bugatti is a luxery car and not a pure racing car like Königsegg or SSC , if they throw out all the luxery they will have 500 kg less and will be much faster ..
@@JuanMarkk based on what? Losing races?
@@JuanMarkk the Bugatti is actually not, the modified one that went 300 is not a production car, it was heavily modified, interior completely stripped out and blew up after everything was all said and done. So a small individual car company just beat a multi billion dollar brand lol plus Bugattis just look like bars of soap so anyone who likes them typically has poor taste in cars.
@ThePininfarinaGentleman© buddy you just made yourself look like a fool, look it up to for proof if you don’t believe me but the PRODUCTION models can’t exceed 300+ Bugatti literally says it on their website, “technically it could” but after further modification of the car and put on their test track with special tires. do not speak unless you know all the facts
I appreciate that there are solid subtitles on these videos now! And the little puns, too.
My favorite part of the story is when Motortrend said the youtubers were wrong, “case closed” and never retracted the story or apologized to the youtubers after SSC admitted the error.
Yeah I remember that, they were aggressively dismissing all of the videos calmly explaining the mathematics. Both Shmee and Engineering Explained weren't trying to convince their audiences of anything, they were just showing equations that proved the claimed numbers were impossible. It was pretty bad behaviour, and you're absolutely right, they never apologised
And boomers still wondering why print media is dying smh
The fact that Jarod is in no way related to Carol is one of the weirdest coincidences in car culture history.
Pfft
Yep, but since he is not if i was in his place not sure i would use shelby in the company name because everyone always thinks Carol. I can see pros and cons to it. It is his name and can use it, but no matter how good his car is alot of people who see shelby would automatically think of the original Shelby car company.
@@RF-wv7ip tbf he did change it from 'Shelby SuperCars' to SSC so it's only the initials, a lot of people don't know what they stand for
331 is no joke. A tire failure is fatal! I raced Super Bikes for 20 years and I know speed. 189mph on a Super Bike was the best feeling that I will never forget !
Good thing the car never actually did 331 mph then. Or anything close to it.
There are special considerations for the wheels and tires on the Bugatti Chiron Super Sport. But, few people think about the strain a propeller on a turboprop goes through flying in extreme temperatures, impacting small objects, pulling an aircraft, zinging along a high rpm.
@@lifted_above The Bugatti factory talks about this. For example how many Gs the air filler cap has to withstand on a car doing 300 mph. And what engineering magic they had to do to create wheels, tyres, even the grille on a Bugatti to make it pass crash testing, health & safety, and get number plates. But these American pretenders dont have to worry about any of that because they wont ever crash test or do any kind of government approval of any kind. No emissions, no safety features... Not even airbags. They will only ever be road legal on kit-car registration and number plates.
@@captain_context9991 Frankly I don't see it as a point of pride to comply with government regulations. Since when did governments keep people safe? They are the biggest human killers across all history. It's just additional cost and engineering to comply with regulations, whether it has any additional tangible benefit to the people who are going to actually throw down a couple chill million on one.
I can't wrap my head around why the would only build one Tuatara, I mean they know how to do it, so why not just make 2 or 3 of them in case something happens to one? Pretty much everybody in the automobile world does that. Money can't be the issue at that point.
clearly my bald wanna be keoniggsegg mans has a huge issue with money
These American hypercar manufacturers like SSC and Hennessey are sort of trying to play in the same league as the likes of Bugatti and Koenigsegg but the truth is they make basically racing kit cars/prototypes that they manage to get sorta road legal in the USA (where the bar for that is really low) rather than true OEM production hypercars.
Yea it looks like SSC's founder came from a time where he had clearly not learned the lesson, "the internet does not forget."
Still broke the record though, ppl make mistakes and should be forgiven
@@Pats4lyfe try convincing the rest of the internet that. Part of the issue is they tried to double down. That tends to not end well when you've already been judged as wrong by the internet
@@Pats4lyfe did they really prove it was legit?
@@Pats4lyfe Still lost my respect for SSC tho
They redeemed themselves and made up for their fuck ups
The whole thing of SSC trying to live on a lie, because they "didn't check accuracy" reminds me of an incident years back on a forum. Long story short, guy claims he made massive power on smaller turbos than guys were making on much larger ones. You had the nut jumpers who were happy, then you had the skeptics. Finally someone noticed something super odd about the dyno graph, did some reverse image searches, and found that the dude had stole someone else's dyno graph. He was called on it and still tried to defend it. More and more of his lies unraveled, then he used some lame excuse about how he "accidentally" uploaded the wrong image, but of course was called on that too, considering he tried to defend it the entire time.
Coverup is quite often worse than the crime...
Just like Fauci and his "science"
@@4dbullshitpatroll6 😁
you talkin about that greek EVO?
Atleast they had a fast car and they did a legit speed trial
Its amazing the bs they tried to pull. The car has a speedometer. I know its not "accurate", but when it reads 250mph and ur "sensors" say 331 you know something is off.
my car pulls 128 on the sat nav 140 on the speedo i know its 10% over reads. i use that 10% over read to do the speed limit im in.
@@raypitts4880 ur car is way off then. Did you change tire size? Also this is a $1m car. Its not that hard to have an accurate speedometer.
Nice vid bro! 👍
I didn’t know Fenske got involved. Jason is the ultimate Ace. I’d love to have that guy* on my side for a debate. *with the whiteboard
Tesla and elon musk is awful doug demuro is awful
Serously why do people put chevy bolt against the Tesla Model 3 because bolt is massively cheaper and onlya half a second slower
@Just Dope yo I thought you linked to Fenske’s video and I clicked that monstrosity. Low blow, man. However, if this is the future of the Rick-roll, I’m ok with that.
For the equally lazy: Engineering Explained -- Was The SSC Tuatara 331 MPH World Record Run Real? kzhead.info/sun/Z86qc8h6gp5mgH0/bejne.html
@@zbatchDOC its no bad at all tho
Shmee was the first person to make this public. The amount of work he did on SSC was amazing .
GREAT presentation dude. One of Donut's best IMHO. And that was a great Arnie impression!
I find it hard to believe they actually believed they went 331mph -- the tach readings alone should have pointed to the error in calculation. One of the toughest things to design a car for high speed is providing the gearing to do so. If the actual speed was, say, 280mph the difference in engine rpm would be 331/280 or 18% -- how do you miss that? Additionally, the landmarks the car passed gave it away and how did they not know that?
They knew.
This Tuatara hypercar... when it was supposed to be a legend, became a meme all over the internet... That's why I love the automotive industry .. one wrong move... the internet hawk eyed detectives will find out the truth/ mistake,... and the internet commumtiny *EXPLODES*
@ME sap as oppo b Po pop 😡😠
Shouldn’t have lied
Absolutely. Like I had a picture of the concept car as my computer background when I was in 4th grade… I’m a senior in college now, 11 years later, and they haven’t delivered any customer cars.
U forgot devil sixteen prototype 🤣🤣
still an amazing car tho, cant wait to see if it’ll hit (actually) 300
4:52 nailed it
Well... He did forget the "ce" at the end
No
Repent to Jesus Christ!!
@@getonthecrossanddontlookba5004 no
@@dislexyc pretty close still
For the guy that did all that math at the beginning of the video, I give u all my respect.
6:13 best beetle juice impression I've ever seen Disney hire the man lol
LOL I didn't catch that the first time. Good ear!
Given SSC know the gear ratio, engine RPM, and tire circumference. They can easily calculate the theoretical speed at a given RPM and gear. And it is mind boggling that no one thought to do simple math to confirm.
@Bob Watters ok, I see. Thanks.
@@shunjieguan4051 I think the theoretical top speed was something like 340mph, wheels would go out before that would ever be reached though.
everything works better in theory but won’t come close in practical
@@thehutch4823 that's not what he means. He didn't say "theoretical max top speed", but rather the theoretical speed at a certain gear x rpm.
@Bob Watters Still, on their second run they went almost 40mph slower than their first top speed run, and calculations show that irl speed might have been 60mph or more below their listed speed. That is not a minor error that can be excused in calculations. Basically there is no reason for them to be more than a few mph off at most when doing their theoretical gear x rpm speed calcuations. There are no real factors that can throw off the number by any significant amount. Tyre deformation is about the only one I can think of and even that only poses a marginal error. Beisdes that, it's pretty much straight highschool math nothing more. Fine if they make a mistake, but then doubling down on it when people question them, instead of double checking their own findings is NOT a proper way to go about claiming a top speed record. It shows they care more about receiving the record, less about earning it.
Personally, I would fully believe that they got overly-excited about their initial results off the measuring equipment they improperly installed. Shelby messed up, but I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they did so not out of malice, but of error. They learned a lesson in publicity and being careful in all claims. Still, there is no denying their engineering.
completely agree with you
They still have the fastest car in the world so....
I'll readily admit I'm a naive idiot, personally. You?
Norm Macdonald you seem to really have a bone to grind with SSC. Why're you getting so worked up lol? You play fortnite so I guess that adds up.
@@sinuslebastian6366 If you're going to argue with him make a counter argument. Not "lol so mad". He doesn't actually seem to be that mad.
The weird thing about this is that they actually didn't have to cheat to break the record as it turns out. May be the controversy was just a publicity stunt to get the funds for another run?
They did need to cheat when they had their closed desert road. How can the driver not know the difference between 240 mph and 330 mph? All verrrrrry sus... On the NASA runway, they didn't exactly rush to 330 mph either. In the faked clip, the acceleration up high was like being bump drafted by a TGV bullet train on its own record attempt.
Reminds me of when the F1 car, Ferrari F2004 were quickier than the team expected, that, unlike SSC, they had to double check everything to confirm it
Oof, 280 is quite far from the claimed 331. Just casually added 50mph to their real speed, lol.
To be fair, the 280 run was limited by the length of the runway. So probably it is capable for more, even 300mph according to calculations. However there is a big silence since then. So it is suspicious why they don’t write history and be the first 300mph production car…
@@grievuspwn4g3 I mean, they have to do a production run for the record to be valid in the first place, so either we will have a chance to see it happen again - or their record will be taken from them if they don't produce the planned number of cars. Koenigsegg's top speed run was also done in an owner's car after all, they can't afford to have one sitting around for themselves to do these true top speed tests with.
@@juzoli Oh, that is fair. I haven't been following the whole situation since the "331mph" run, but Nolan mentioned in the video the truck carrying the car to another testing location was tipped over by strong wind, so that most likely damaged the hypercar and delayed more runs. No idea how old is that piece of news though, and if they are still repairing the car. I wish them all the best though. I am not against them, I just hate cheating.
Basically a rounding error. For very lenient definitions of rounding...
@Waldel Martell Yes, I’m even more surprised, and disappointed that the Chiron doesn’t go for the real record… Unlike SSC, they have huge experience and resources. Maybe the platform is not capable for that after all without illegal modifications? By the way, the Nevada highway where they first tried is long enough.
SSC : Our car hit 331 mph Shmee150 : I'm about to end this man's whole career
Lol
It didn't end it though🤷🏿🤷🏿
@Peter Evans No, it's entirely possible if the winds get strong enough. If winds get to 60 mph they can flip a moving semi trailer.
SSC Thrust: I'm about to end this man's whole career
@@davidgendron519 It's a joke you wet blanket
Ever heard of the salt flats where cars regularly go over 300mph with poor traction on the salt or seen a Top fuel racecar go from 0 to 340 in 3.6 seconds??
@@rastas_4221 True, but 85 year old technology enabled the first car to reach 300 mph in 1935 called the bluebird with a guy name Malcolm Campbell and his son reached over 400mph by the 60’s.
If Engineering Explained says it's cap, it's cap. Shmee loves everything, so finding out his disdain is surprising 🤔
It had been well and truly been proved false by the time Jason got his hands on it. Shmee initially, then Robert Mitchell leading the charge; his take leading to him being included in the people there to witness the rerun. kzhead.info/sun/mbeHgq96oZGeiH0/bejne.html
4:37 "A couple years have paSSCd", 10:28 "obseSSCd", gotta love whoever made the subtitles lol
Beat me by 3 minutes ;)
I was expecting another car as well as this one. The title made it seem like there was a ton of different cars making erroneous speed claims.
Think they’re throwing shots at Tesla’s plaid model s 0-60 time including roll out
@Bob Watters But somehow the Venom GT has a Guinness certified record in production car category....How bizarre!!!
@@trapsarentgay4195 They are not. Rollout is used by everyone is USA. Paid hater.
Love the reload sound when Nolan fixes his glasses
Your commercials are abundant and the humor is nil. Which one does open mics.
That reload sound when Nolan push up his glasses is a ‘Syke’ to see.
Big Brain move
Damn, nailed it
Shemee casually and calmly disproving the tuatara’s speed record was golden 😂😂😂
Yes tho it's a golden maxed tuatara speed 😂
I don't know who decided to play a gun cocking sound effect everytime Nolan pushes his glasses up, but they deserve an Emmy.
9:22 I apologize Yet you still put it on this video 🤣.
This is one reason im a Koenigsegg fan, they keep it real - Even inhouse real.
Koenigsegg is my dream car
Koenigsegg makes great cars, but I hope they have it in GT7
koenigsegg koenigsegg koenigsegg.... no matter who has the record, the seggheads follow their cult leader
@@THESLlCK am a Koenigsegg fan and I have to admit that this is a fact, Bugatti will always be on top somehow
blah blah blah you, me, and the other guy never gonna afford
Yoooooooooooooo NOLAN!!!!!!! MISSED YOU MAN!!!
Gay
This is the first I saw the record in Km/h instead of mp/h To say the least I was shocked to find out the cars are going well over 400, I thought they were barely reaching that lol
The real question about the SSC Cars is: are they as good as a Koenigsegg overall or just in a straight line?
Highly doubt it. The tech behind a Konigsegg is on a different planet. Tuting a carbon fibre body as one of the main features in this day and age is kind of, well, 1990s.
They call it a "production car", but then go on about how "The car" was damaged in an accident so they couldn't pursue further runs. *THE* car. They had to give up because there was *only one car*. How can you call something a "production car" when there is literally only one of it? That's not a production car, that's a custom build.
Yeah, and you can't order another one of it....so......
Honestly the fastest production car is now the Bugatti Chiron Super sport cuz it’s in production now
@@ahmed35gaming I believe the Koenigsegg Agera RS still holds that record. Correct me if I am wrong.
@@minecraftveteran7410 the ssc holds the record . its not as fast as they said it was but its still the fastest.
@@WUTaNIGGAiAM not a production car
mad respect to mr clean who owned up to his bias and came out to do it again...god knows how much those setups cost
Less than the cost of just one car. We are talking about million dollar range, cost of a test like this is nothing to them, considering that the fame and reputation are main drivers behind sales. People who buy these are looking for a certain status.
@@squidcaps4308 still its another mil, he could have handled it another way
@@THEGRAYFOXX00 he honestly couldn't imo. After all that controversy and negative publicity surrounding their faked run, they kinda had to do it again to have any chance of redemption.
@@davidjohansson8739 ALL companies care about only one thing $, if they looked hard enough and fast enough they could have found another way that would have been cheaper and achieved the same result...maybe it was to have a e run, o maybe it was just to save some fave idk
@@THEGRAYFOXX00 of course they care about money, but with these low volume cars that are only made in ~100 units, imagine just 10 customers going "lol, i dont want anything to do with that car anymore, i dont trust them".. That would be 10% of their total revenue and around ~$16million.. And they can't really do anything else to fix their reputation since a faked speedrun kinda requires a real speedrun to fix.. It wouldn't be enougb with "but our simulations here tells us it's that fast"
It’s funny that my favorite part of this video was dude with VPN ad. Lolol! That’s good stuff
I used to play a fun mobile game in 2013 that had the ssc tuatara as their fastest car. When you said it came out in 2019 the mandela effect got me
Shmee came with straight facts whenever Motortrend tried coming after him
Oh yeah I remember hearing about that. Did they leave a comment on Shmee's video or have they uploaded a seperate video that tried to defend the run?
@@bgjh5149 dunno,you're gonna see it about SSC tuatara got mess the HELL UP and it was fake but the answer was 331 MPH/532 KM/H per top speed ever. But!!! Fun fact: Real Top Speed was 282.9 MP/H or 455.3 KM/H was better than previously top speed record in october 2020.
@@muhammadwahyuhidayat21498 your comment adds literally nothing, everything you said was in the video and that didn't answer the guys question lol
@@bgjh5149 From what I remember, MotorTrend ended up going radio silent on it after they realized that their audience is very small and not as dedicated as Shmee or Engineering Explained. I think there was that initial article written and then nothing more because they really didn't think these "small youtubers" would call their bluff lol.
@@bgjh5149 they wrote an article where they belittled Shmee and other KZheadrs for their findings, even though they used fact-checkable information 🤦🏾♂️. The dumbasses who wrote the article clearly had a bias against KZheadrs and didn't even bother to check the data and math himself.
Jason is probably the only guy i can take for SERIOUS on KZhead when it comes to "Reality" on Cars.
“I just can’t see well”😂😂🤣 I legally can’t drive without them
I love the reload sound everytime Nolan moves his glasses up 🤣🤣
They missed one at 11:06 and it bothers me a lot more than it should lol
one of my favorite running bits that they have! So good
I want a pair of glasses that have a really small button on the middle so when you push em up like nolan, they play the reload sound
"You think I am smart because I wear glasses? No!! I just can't see" Nolan
@Ingrid Christina why man/women.
this era of automotive journalism was wild
Like online journalism in the video game, entertainment, politics, whether left or right leaning, or just in general, drama and sensationalism sells, always.
Thought I was going to not care about this video, then I saw flames, heard V8, and now I'm hooked.
I remember the day i woke up and saw on my phone "SSC Tuatara breaks the 300mph speed record" and me screaming "That's BULLSH*T!" and a few weeks later i was right since the start! It was all a lie! 🤣🤣🤣
Those who know engineering just know this sort of thing is BS when they see it. I'm not so sure the wheels on the Tuatara would even hold up to the cetripital loads from the originally claimed speed, and they did it on a normal highway, in contrast to Bugatti's 300mph run on a specially conditioned, one-way-only concrete strip which they wouldn't even permit a reverse run on for safety (which obviously meant they couldn't get Guinness to verify anything)
That reload sound when you push your glasses up gets me every time
I like 15 mins from where this car is made and only learned about it yesterday from a coworker! We also have a company that works with Porsche design, nike, DC shoes and many other companies on carbon fiber applications.
Nolan in Wheel House,is like the teacher in school who we always look forward to seeing everday.
Ah yes. The memory of the time. Personally, i'm pretty excited when SSC announced they reach 331 MPH at October 2020 with Tuatara. Partly because they smash Chiron SS 300+ one-way run & partly because i didn't have big expectation of it (Probably because i didn't get much info about the Tuatara development). But when the controversy came to the surface, oh boy it was hot. This probably a lesson for anyone who tried to break a record. Just be honest about it & always double check because it's a serious stake. As for Devel Sixteen, well good luck
Devel Sixteen isn't real
@@hotpinkfryingpan7615 Personally, not quite. I know at the moment they haven't put it into production after decade of development, but the prototype & engine they showcase few years ago seems pretty legit. At least they are closer to reality than other dreamlist Supercar like Trion Nemesis or TranStar Dagger GT that God knows what their fate
@@ivanbima5877 Nothing about the Devil 16 is legit... Literally nothing. Theyve yet to show it go over 25mph.
@@TheGamingNorwegian Are you sure? Not even the engine that been dyno & reach 4500 HP?
@@TheGamingNorwegian well atleast they got the engine right
Really appreciated the plays on SSC in the subtitles 4:38 "A couple of year have paSSCd..." 10:29. "..were so obseSSCd with their work..." 10:40 "After some time paSSCd,.."
It looks like whoever subtitled it initially typed the brand as "SSE" and then used a Find and Replace for "sse" to 'SSC"...
@@twoeasy3 I totally back your theory
Dang
I can't see well, man you almost killed me when you said that, LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
I remember watching the video and it looked like the car was topping out, and then it just started shooting up in speed out of nowhere like it had some 300mph plus turbo kick in. Honestly I'm surprised I' didn't hear them say the "vtec kicked in yo!"
Just one question. If this is a truly “Production car” then why is there only one car to do the testing with? If it is a production car then there should be plenty of other examples to test. Why haven’t they done the run with another example of the car? The answer is that this car is a one off car that will never actually be a production car.
That was the first production car, dude driving it when the record was set was actually the owner
@@koenigseggdubstep9837 first and last example apparently since they have basically abandoned trying to do the run again.
@@koenigseggdubstep9837 plus they can’t just use a car which would be someone else’s. There aren’t just spare brand new Bugattis or Koenigseggs just sitting around. They are produced for production use not the company, they’ll usually have one to test with to save costs
Quite sure every manufacturer is given a certain time period from day of the record to homologate and manufacture all the units or atleast the minimum number of units required for production car eligibility.
That’s a dumb take. All of these cars are *limited* production cars, lumped in with the others because they are also built to be road-legal. Each of them sells for way over a million, and much of that money is spent just making it. Of course they wouldn’t want to use more than a couple cars for testing, because then you have to build more hideously expensive cars that you might not be able to sell. The Porsche 959 - also a low-volume production car - couldn’t be certified in the US simply because at the time you had to send several examples of your car to be destroyed in crash tests, and Porsche could not afford to give away like 3 more of its $600,000-to-build 959s.
SSC's and the Tuatara's legacy will always be tainted by this controversy. The same way we'll always be asking for an Up to Speed on James's dad.
Ayooo
im from Austria.... i appreciate the voice you made to resemble us.... we all talk like this and we all have the same bicep diameter
I Remember when they announced this car, after the ssc ultimate aero had its record taken from them by the veryon ss,or the venom I forget Around 2012/13. I loved the render they showed and it almost looks identical to the real car. A few fudged numbers or not. I love the car
Anyone else looking forward to the “is buying a snorkel worth it?” Kinda wanna see low team try to make a snorkel and see how well it does.
Wait ins't the last episode of season 2 hi/lo coming out? I doubt they are going to put snorkles on their tacomas
@@Dezbo you can only hope! Plus what about a straight axle swap? I know they’re doing overland, but would still be cool to see or at least the snorkel because even if you only go over landing your gonna want/need a snorkel because even over-landing there’s places you can’t get with out a snorkel, like if you need to cross a good body of water to get to where you wanna go camping.
They won't do a SAS haha. They're doing overland stuff, not rock crawler stuff.
you can just mae a snorel with some pvc pipe lol. it's an intake, there's no heat. chrisfix put a pvc fitting on the mushroom intake on his humvee so it would be higher than the hood.
How are the newer Toys holding up? I've been driving a '68 Corolla for almost 34 years now. I might need to replace it some day. I know, I know,...I'm barely out of the break-in period...but planning for the future.
the toto wolff impression when reading the deutron quote , was perfection lol
I thought it was Schwarzenegger-impression
As soon as he changed accent toto came to my mind😂😂
@@fredbull313 it is isnt it?
@@carrot5610 Yes, it must be
cause he about to fire sum FACTS XD
Can't wait to see a full top speed run of the Koenigsegg Jesko Absolute and a top speed run of the Hennesy Venom F5. Those will be awesome.
i dont think they will do the absolut cuz it wont have enough units made to qualify for production car. i think. i could be wrong though
9:11 The Terminator came back to talk about the dangers of this equipment it really wasn't skynet after all. 😂
Americans: “Mom can we have Christian Von Koennigsegg?” Mom: “We have Christian Von Koenigsegg at home” The Christian Von Koenigsegg at home: Jarod Shelby
Uhh, faster? Seems like a self own, it'd be awesome to own an ssc
@@noobsonyt2762 taut Ara is a girls name tho
@@noobsonyt2762 The Swedish don’t have balls so you won’t have to worry about that happening with a Koenigsegg
@@mark_xvii The Swedish don´t have balls? I know Swedish people are somewhat famous for being timid and maybe even shy but when it comes to the red line, we Swedish have large hairy balls. :) Swedes are also damn proud of CVK and his upcoming releases so look out for them. K Absolute would already have the speed record if they, like VW and Bugatti have theri own, had a recordbreaking bit of road to drive on...
Nolan out here finally acknowledging that Donut has a female audience as well! We exist!!
@@Dan_R "Acknowledging"
No you dont
They never denied your existence, in fact they propably mentioned their chick audience before, but I think if you checked donuts analytics it'd say that the audience is 97/3 male/female, so this is like a Polish national getting a stiffy over the mention of Poland in a KZhead video, taking that as evidence of the world encompassing power of his nation. It's embarrassing if you feel the need to be "acknowledged", everyone knows you exist, this fact is so mundane that noone mentions it.
People triggered as fuck over this inoffensive comment lmao
@@jackwii1472 its not that serious dude
Regardless of whether they lied or not, 1700hp out of a v8 is absolutely ridiculous
I started watching this thinking it was video game Speedruns but I couldn’t stop watching
You nailed that Arnold impression, that was great.
You missed Apex Nürburg Team, Misha Charoudin and Robert Mitchell who where the first to point it out. They really got the ball rolling
Even if SSC did get a car up to 330mph, who would want one? You don't buy a $1million+ car because it goes fast, you buy it because you always wanted one. No-one ever wanted a car built in a shed in America by a company you've never heard of.
At 1:15 to 1:16 when the camera zoom in and zoom out they try to blur the dashboard that measures the actual speed of car , you can literally see the speed is at 270ish something while the laptop say's 311 Whe you compare the display in the center and drivers dashboard ,they slightly blur it
I actually cracked up at the Austrian accent attempt. It reminded me of people mimicking Toto Wolff, so you were closer than it seemed 😂
Now I can't unhear toto
*bangs the table* lol
The car would sell well if it was sold. It looks great and didn’t need to lie about top speed
It wouldn’t sell well Dumbass it costs well over 1.6 MILLION dollars. U think that a 1.6 MILLION dollar vehicle will sell well??
@@squintus8140 Koenigseggs sell well. They cost 2mill+. What are you smoking my guy?
@@anonymousname8833 let’s see American cars are much cheaper so? Practicality is the main reason nobody would get it
@@squintus8140 what is a non car guy doing here
@@sabyasachibhaumik8920 😅
Love how everytime I watch donut media.... there's an ad for dunkin
you failed to mention that by the time SSC finally set their 282mph "record", Bugatti had already moved the goalposts, to over 304mph
Side note, I don't know how it happened but I'm REALLY happy to see VPN adverts finally be honest about what a VPN is and is not good for.
Keep it up guys, hope this channel never dies!
all these damn bots istg
@@artemis_the_bot ikr
@@artemis_the_bot it's insane. I hope KZhead is working on this.
@@Tony_Man KZhead cares more about copyright and "bad words" over spam bots.
Cars have these things called speedometers and tachometers. You can read the speed on the speedometer. You can also very accurately calculate the speed from the tachometer based on RPM, gearing ratio and tire diameter. When going for those top speeds, the driver would be watching the tach as closely as the road. So... its not believable this was a mistake.
4:37 the subtitles say "paSSCd" 10:28 the subtitles say "ObseSSCd" which tells me that the initial subtitles had the company's name spelled as SSE, but someone caught the error and in the attempt to fix it did a "replace all" on SSE to SSC, instead of checking each replace. I hope someone was fired for that blunder.
By doing a second attempt, and not getting close to their first "record", SSC just confirmed what everyone on the internet said about them.
Absolutely. They thought they could get away with their lie.
A lot of people on the internet said a lot of things about SSC. The only thing that they confirmed was that the Tuatara was incapable of breaking 300. They still built the fastest production car on the planet.
@@GC2Major_Tom sure... wait for the Jesko Absolut and the road legal Bugatti Chiron LT. History will forget SSC so fast...
Now ask everyone on the internet to show their road legal 300mph car (or at least close to it). Yes they faked it, they still came straight afterwards tho and even showed how fast it actually could go and they're do-ers, not say-ers like everyone else armchair engineering on the internet.
@@sylvaind.6786 Okay, then SSC won't have the record. You know that world records don't last forever, right?
If it's a _production car,_ you just grab another from the _production line,_ and continue testing.
but of a smaller company than its competitors, made only 100 and probably tried to push every single one out the door
bit*
the thumbnail : Not Ssc Tuatara the video : Tuatara me : IM ABOUT TO CUUUHHHH (Jimmy Newtron)
I have a GT Robinson 27 speed Mountain bike on 29’s, it's fast. I did two runs at Ford Lake. My first run I did 342.647mph and the second run completed within 10 minutes was 344.573mph! My legs were sore no doubt!
Hey Nolan! I was able to meet the driver of the Tuatara, Larry Kaplin volunteering at his CF charities event. Great guy and amazing car collection. The trailer flipping is true and they resolved it by getting super heavy duty transport trailers that lock the cars in safely like a rollercoaster seat. Very neat technology.