How We Take Spacecraft Out of Orbit

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How do we get spacecraft out of orbit? Neil deGrasse Tyson and Chuck Nice break down everything you need to know about deorbiting spacecraft and safely reentering our atmosphere. How are we going to get the ISS out of orbit?
Learn about terminal velocity, escape velocity, and how aerobraking heat shields save fuel. We discuss issues with uncontrolled orbits and crashing into the Pacific Ocean. Plus, why did we let Casini burn up in Saturn’s atmosphere? How are we going to get the ISS out of orbit? Neil also shares his ideas about the new space race and China’s space station.
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00:00 - Introduction: Deorbiting
00:30 - Breaking Down Reentry
3:11 - Getting to Terminal Velocity
4:35 - Aerobraking with Heat Shields
7:41 - Deorbiting Casini
8:32 - Deorbiting the ISS & China’s Space Station
10:02 - The New Space Race
11:30 - Closing Thoughts

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  • What did you learn from this Explainer?

    @StarTalk@StarTalkАй бұрын
    • That the ISS isn't going to be tearing into some unfortunate poor peoples' houses when we retire it. China on the other hand....

      @homerodysseus4203@homerodysseus4203Ай бұрын
    • Why don't they recycle the space station when we build the next one? ready available materials.

      @benjamindemontgomery6317@benjamindemontgomery6317Ай бұрын
    • 6:00 headwinds in the troposphere are insane!

      @ChristopherCurtis@ChristopherCurtisАй бұрын
    • Only racist and fakers call their competition an adversary.

      @ShonMardani@ShonMardaniАй бұрын
    • @@benjamindemontgomery6317 Yes, this! I was going to ask the same question. If it's so hard to get mass up into orbit, doesn't it seem useful to use the material that is there and repurpose it? Must come down to money, I'm guessing, like everything. :P

      @stix2you@stix2youАй бұрын
  • The frustration on Neil's face when he said "42" 😂😂

    @DarriusGreene-Lewis@DarriusGreene-LewisАй бұрын
    • 😂😂😂 he almost cried

      @KageraEdward@KageraEdwardАй бұрын
    • Yes, that was so clearly *not* scripted. :|

      @petersage5157@petersage5157Ай бұрын
    • Or when he mentioned “China”!!!

      @a.j.infowars7582@a.j.infowars7582Ай бұрын
    • Chuck thought he asked about life, the universe, and everything.

      @adamdejesus4017@adamdejesus4017Ай бұрын
    • 42 IS THE UNIVERSAL ANSWER TO EVERYTHING

      @benjamindemontgomery6317@benjamindemontgomery6317Ай бұрын
  • Neil's recovery when Chuck finally says '49' 😂

    @huwmenear@huwmenearАй бұрын
    • 🤣🤣🔥

      @nextuplevelup4119@nextuplevelup4119Ай бұрын
  • When Chuck said 42, I felt that.

    @peakingmantis5331@peakingmantis5331Ай бұрын
    • As someone who hated rote memorization, the multiplication table is 'fuzzy' around the mid 6's and 7's. So, I actually came to the correct answer at about the same moment Chuck did. I do think he missed a comedic opportunity to echo Neil's frustration, when Neil says "49 is twice 25."

      @CineSoar@CineSoarАй бұрын
    • I hesitate to add another thumbs up to this, it's too good.

      @boigeorge1149@boigeorge1149Ай бұрын
    • 36 😃

      @maitlinjoyner107@maitlinjoyner107Ай бұрын
    • Lmfao literally me

      @Nova2Yung@Nova2YungАй бұрын
    • HHGTTG

      @rude_people_die_young@rude_people_die_youngАй бұрын
  • 2:45 Thanks for the shoutout Chuck, 42!

    @Life_42@Life_42Ай бұрын
  • Who else understands concepts better with Neil than at School? >>>>>>

    @cyprax_o28@cyprax_o28Ай бұрын
    • 💯

      @user-zt8sm2uc5z@user-zt8sm2uc5zАй бұрын
    • Try studying & teaching yourself.

      @johnsmith1474@johnsmith1474Ай бұрын
    • Neil is a failed comedian.

      @gulfy09@gulfy09Ай бұрын
    • he is also a Astrophysicist with a PhD@@gulfy09

      @dynamitedingo8183@dynamitedingo8183Ай бұрын
    • I mean, you’re an adult now so lots of things are easier to understand. But i get what you are saying.

      @drink15@drink15Ай бұрын
  • Chuck knows the anwer to the ultimate question of Life, the Universe, and Everything!

    @lebac@lebacАй бұрын
  • I too also said 42 in my head ...then I saw the pain... the level of love that have for the two of you is ....

    @randomkindness1470@randomkindness1470Ай бұрын
  • Always great to see Neil using his office, at the Hayden Planitarium as a set . So many interesting books and artifacts just out of focus. Would be great if when filming from his office that Neil shares some info on the books on his shelves. Ideally, one title every time he post a video from his office, but even a Book of the Month would be great. Books are awesome, they don't need batteries and totally impervious to solar storms and any other forms of electromagnetic interference. Please share !👍👍👍

    @akwinoz@akwinozАй бұрын
    • Great idea

      @olaseniprince5758@olaseniprince5758Ай бұрын
    • Great idea.

      @sherylbegby@sherylbegbyАй бұрын
  • He would have liked to die when my boy said 42. Lol

    @jeffreybaker5179@jeffreybaker5179Ай бұрын
  • We need a 3 Body Problem analysis video Dr. Neil, that show was so awesome

    @chrisblack9851@chrisblack9851Ай бұрын
    • the chinise version was so much better.

      @CrzyGazara@CrzyGazaraАй бұрын
    • It was mid

      @kylewallis31@kylewallis31Ай бұрын
    • @@kylewallis31 Nah u trippin

      @chrisblack9851@chrisblack9851Ай бұрын
    • @@CrzyGazara Nah u trippin too

      @chrisblack9851@chrisblack9851Ай бұрын
  • E=MC2 is not the first equation learned in school. It was probably 1 + 1 = 2

    @joanhall3718@joanhall3718Ай бұрын
    • I thought so too, but for now let's just leave the smart people talk 😊

      @GabrielMbokaOFFICIAL@GabrielMbokaOFFICIALАй бұрын
    • I think that was just a Tyson style joke 😅

      @princejbc2003@princejbc2003Ай бұрын
  • It's nice to listen in on you guys. Love all the information I get . Thank you.

    @richardtutor8331@richardtutor8331Ай бұрын
  • Don't know about Chuck and Neil, but I think most of us learn "two and two make four" even before we learn that E = mc^2. Fight me on this one.

    @petersage5157@petersage5157Ай бұрын
    • 😂 yes

      @mikeuk666@mikeuk666Ай бұрын
    • I learnt KE = 1/2 MV² much before E=MC² Idk why Neil didn't use kinetic energy to explain it, am i wrong thinking this way?

      @vanshamb@vanshambАй бұрын
    • @@vanshamb If you actually study physics, you learn that K=1/2 mv² much earlier, but people who haven't studied physics have never heard of K=1/2 mv², they've only heard of E=mc², even if they never really understand what it means. Abstractly, though, both equations say the same thing about energy: that it has _dimensions_ of mass times velocity squared.

      @yessopie@yessopieАй бұрын
    • @@yessopie Isnt K=1/2 mv`2 a tiny part of the full E=MC`2 equation?

      @y4playiny4self@y4playiny4selfАй бұрын
    • @@vanshamb ur not wrong; I think Neil was just going for the low hanging fruit that the common undereducated American would know, even if their understanding of it is closer to E = MC Hammer. The kinetic energy formula is precisely what engineers use for spacecraft kinetics. The kinetic energy formula is part of General Relativity, and in non-relativistic cases GR reduces to KE. The mass energy equivalency is what Special Relativity reduces to for speeds that are not a significant fraction of the speed of light. They're both parabolic equations that fall out of hyperbolic equations.

      @petersage5157@petersage5157Ай бұрын
  • when chuck said 7^2 square = 42 💀🤯 Neil is hilarious 2:27

    @jensyrodriguez7828@jensyrodriguez7828Ай бұрын
  • @StarTalk , im glad and appreciative of Chuck touching upon a subject that almost no one talks about. I understand this is the primary channel , but I do believe having a podcast about mental health in general would be a great subject for your secondary channel Startalk +. It's not everyday that astrophysicists come out and openly talk about their mental health. Chuck I appreciate you.

    @CMDRGhostNappa@CMDRGhostNappaАй бұрын
  • Chuck Mistake was just a showman slip, because “The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything is 42”, from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

    @Nivola1953@Nivola1953Ай бұрын
  • Beautiful, just beautiful conversation.

    @xvars9640@xvars9640Ай бұрын
  • Love you guys 💓 I listen most nights....so relaxing and yes I have a smoke lol 😁

    @Nicola_Harvey@Nicola_HarveyАй бұрын
  • @12:04 that's what i thought and wanted to hear and he spoke....whatever happens, it happens for good !!!

    @bhishankhatiwoda7537@bhishankhatiwoda7537Ай бұрын
  • I'm on your team Chuck. I got as check up from the neck up and found great meds to get me through life. My wife and kids suffered for too many years with my depression. Anyone who meets me now sees a happy me.

    @walter6574@walter6574Ай бұрын
    • I'm glad that you can fully enjoy your family. Thanks for sharing!

      @jenisemcintyre3839@jenisemcintyre3839Ай бұрын
  • I'm glad Chuck is now feeling better, I can actually see you were putting up fake smiles previously and I can see that you actually feeling real down at the time.

    @ooichiewlean548@ooichiewlean548Ай бұрын
  • I listen to these every night when I go to sleep! Absolutely love you guys, keep it up!

    @broke2bentleys@broke2bentleysАй бұрын
  • I love Chuck's reactions!

    @GlobeEarthMike@GlobeEarthMikeАй бұрын
  • You guys make learning so entertaining

    @bMonsterPro@bMonsterProАй бұрын
  • As always these explainers are really good

    @danielchandi8198@danielchandi8198Ай бұрын
  • you guys should've talked about starship flight 3 with the amazing video views we got of this exact thing with the heat shield, and the plasma starting to heat up!! =)

    @Reasononemedia@ReasononemediaАй бұрын
  • nice office, very nice ... can you do a guided tour around it some time in the future?

    @T-800__@T-800__Ай бұрын
  • Thank you for your message Chuck. I would like to hear more about that.

    @joshuabates7424@joshuabates7424Ай бұрын
  • Lord Chuck At The Cosmic Crib. I'd go to see that stand up show in a heart beat!

    @TuxedoMaskMusic@TuxedoMaskMusicАй бұрын
  • I appreciate the therapy advice. It's really important and good for everyone to understand ❤

    @mishunkage1480@mishunkage1480Ай бұрын
  • Considering the cost of getting all that material up there (that could be re-purposed / re-used) is de-orbiting the best solution though?

    @stevekirkby6570@stevekirkby6570Ай бұрын
  • Chuck got it right, 42 is the answer to everything. Neil just didn't get the joke.

    @Kim_Miller@Kim_MillerАй бұрын
  • Thank you Chuck, that really resonated with me and gave me solace.

    @GammaFields@GammaFieldsАй бұрын
  • The editor is having fun with these. Keep it up!

    @Ughandi@UghandiАй бұрын
  • I Love these guys ! I Love StarTalk ❤ Educational Entertainment to the MAX ❕️

    @dawnhansen7886@dawnhansen7886Ай бұрын
  • 42..! Yes, that’s the answer to everything in the universe..! ❤😊

    @kumarraj2012@kumarraj2012Ай бұрын
  • This ad is so brave 🎉 thank you and thanks to the graphics team it's amazing

    @bdr420i@bdr420iАй бұрын
  • It's so good for me to found this guy now I can listening to amazing things while I'm on bus to school

    @duy5907@duy5907Ай бұрын
  • I love you two, always keeping me entertained, and my fix for space

    @chrism3784@chrism3784Ай бұрын
  • LOL 7^2 42, Neil's REaction is priceless!

    @Lamjed@LamjedАй бұрын
  • How do you get to substitute other velocity values into the E=MC^2 equation to calculate energy when C (speed of light) is a constant?

    @donnierice9509@donnierice950925 күн бұрын
  • thank you so much dr neill

    @anthonycamilleri7297@anthonycamilleri7297Ай бұрын
  • This video is why I don't do math in public... And kinda' not cool to both put Chuck on the spot like that and then shame him rather than just say something like "Not quite, I think it's 49" (or something similar) Lastly, Chuck, thanks for being so willing to share your struggle with depression - that's a very difficult thing to talk about, and, as you said: often a source of shame. I'm glad you found the help you needed and what worked for you!

    @a24396@a24396Ай бұрын
    • I disagree. Unless you have a severe learning disability, I think it’s kind of shameful to not know your multiplication tables as an adult. I agree it’s not cool to shame people with disabilities, but in Chuck’s case I suspect it’s probably not a disability, but rather he just didn’t do his math homework in 3rd grade.

      @stevenqirkle@stevenqirkleАй бұрын
    • @@stevenqirkle I don't agree. Not everyone can recite multiplication tables for a variety of reasons, many having nothing to do with severe disability. Just like some people have bad spelling. That's not a moral failing either, however much you may want to judge people for that.

      @a24396@a24396Ай бұрын
    • @@a24396 in a 10x10 multiplication table, there are 55 unique combinations to remember. Anyone can do it. It’s nowhere near as difficult as spelling, which has a much larger vocabulary as well as many homophones and irregularities. What other reasons are there besides not putting in the effort and/or learning disability?

      @stevenqirkle@stevenqirkleАй бұрын
    • @@stevenqirkle Incredulity is not an argument. Just because you can't imagine this doesn't mean it's not a real problem for people who are both not lazy and not profoundly disabled. I recommend you go to google and search for 'reasons people don't remember multiplication tables.' You might discover that human brains aren't just biological equivalents of calculators/computers and not everyone is 'wired' the same. In the same way that some people 'get' spelling and others don't, some people 'get' mathematics and others don't. Or... Continue to disbelieve anything you don't understand or for which you haven't figured out an answer... Whatever makes you happy!

      @a24396@a24396Ай бұрын
  • Hi love the show... Any news on the latest observered supernova?

    @user-zw1qe2ju1l@user-zw1qe2ju1lАй бұрын
  • I appreciate you guys. Well done.

    @carguybikeguy@carguybikeguyАй бұрын
  • When chuck talked about mental health. You got me as a fan!

    @travelinman70@travelinman70Ай бұрын
    • For sure. It takes guts to be open about that and show that anyone can suffer from mental issues.

      @silvercloud1641@silvercloud1641Ай бұрын
  • The editing in this video is hilarious. The 42 and E thing both were awesome. I'm not even 5 minutes in. 😂

    @h.e.x.@h.e.x.Ай бұрын
  • Really enjoyed this one

    @Mrleahey@MrleaheyАй бұрын
  • Chuck’s note about depression resonated beautifully ❤

    @Bella-yl9zm@Bella-yl9zmАй бұрын
  • The intros, the animation and the set are fantastic ❤

    @RythmGkwd@RythmGkwd24 күн бұрын
  • 2:50 Neil went through all the stages of Grief here lmao

    @cspahn3221@cspahn3221Ай бұрын
  • A fantastic synergy, I've been watching for a while now and will be watching all the back catalogue. Thankyou for being teachers, entertainers and ultimately - humbling me enough to want to learn 😇🕹👌 Stay retro

    @CheekyCommodoreGamer@CheekyCommodoreGamerАй бұрын
  • What is this, chemical thing in the brain? What causes it? The chemical reaction i mean.

    @MichioKaku-in9yb@MichioKaku-in9ybАй бұрын
    • Is it coded through our dna?

      @stefanosygus8762@stefanosygus8762Ай бұрын
    • They have a video about depression where they discuss it more with Dr Heather Berlin

      @AK_14564@AK_14564Ай бұрын
    • Asking the same here

      @thesege@thesegeАй бұрын
    • """"Is it coded through our dna?"""""" The cause, or the effect? It's science, so it must have both the cause and or the effect, besides the coding?

      @MichioKaku-in9yb@MichioKaku-in9ybАй бұрын
    • @@MichioKaku-in9yb 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

      @ARandomInternetUser08@ARandomInternetUser08Ай бұрын
  • Chuck - I'm glad you're feeling better.

    @kenkahre9262@kenkahre9262Ай бұрын
  • Could you explain the black hole stars?

    @michaelespinosa145@michaelespinosa145Ай бұрын
  • Chuck was right with 42. It’s the answer to life, the universe, and *everything*.

    @ernesto-dev@ernesto-devАй бұрын
  • Love the Black Hole lunchbox on the shelf. I saw that movie with my grandpa.

    @jamespettit1792@jamespettit1792Ай бұрын
  • Haha omg that frustration from Neil haha I was like no chuck noooooo 😂

    @TranceXZero@TranceXZeroАй бұрын
  • Just a question of being static or dynamic, my forgotten Lamis theorem.

    @ashoksafaya5397@ashoksafaya5397Ай бұрын
  • You guys are great all the time. Gets me to remember to watch Stanton Friedman. I think you would both love to have him on asking some really fun questions because watch this whole summary show of his. It's on UMMN TV on Y.. JUST PUT OUT AN HOUR AGO. I think it's awesome🎉 You guys will be great together, for at least 2 hours or MORE If you can get together.

    @RockPowerUSA@RockPowerUSAАй бұрын
  • If energy is velocity squared, does energy have a directional component? Or is it actually just speed squared?

    @Loganl1980@Loganl1980Ай бұрын
  • Speaking of Endeavor, it's now vertical on a full launch stack while the new display facility is built around it.

    @fsj197811@fsj197811Ай бұрын
  • I think that it would be very interesting to see a Startalk review&analysis episode of science presented in The Three-Body Problem(the Netflix tv series, the book or both). Maybe Chuck thought Neil asked him what is the meaning of life, the universe, and everything.

    @dadofsteel@dadofsteelАй бұрын
  • I love it. 🔥

    @BLOXKAFELLARECORDS@BLOXKAFELLARECORDSАй бұрын
  • When it's time to replace the International Space Station, how feasible would a "take a new module up, bring an old module down" system be? Maybe not for every module, but the opportunity to study what 25+ years of exposure to space has done to the craft

    @missjayspeechley9213@missjayspeechley9213Ай бұрын
  • this was amazing!!!!!!

    @renardmiller733@renardmiller733Ай бұрын
  • I wonder if its possible to have a cable up to a satellite at 22,500 miles (geostationary point.) And have spaceships crawl up and down? At around 200 miles you could disconnect and fly without all the energy needed to get in orbit and slow gravity to de-orbit down the cable to the ground.

    @PianoUniverse@PianoUniverseАй бұрын
  • great editing! was fun to watch

    @Xabi_MM@Xabi_MMАй бұрын
  • When are we making the ISS lunar 1?

    @williamcourtland5945@williamcourtland5945Ай бұрын
  • Neils stories + Kerbal Space Program, what more do you need? one more interesting thing, why do they land in ocean but not on the hill or a mountain? killed a few Kerbals to figure it out :)

    @aleksandarstevanovic5854@aleksandarstevanovic5854Ай бұрын
  • Neil and Chuck, y'all rock! ❤Peace 🤘 💥 ✌️

    @BenjySparky@BenjySparkyАй бұрын
  • Good times!!

    @Jane-yj1to@Jane-yj1toАй бұрын
  • What about trajectory or angle of attack? Isn't the second worrysome part the possibility of skipping off the Earth's atmosphere due to too shallow a descent?

    @davidnewell3232@davidnewell3232Ай бұрын
  • Serious question, how does the parachute not melt when entering the earth's atmosphere? Seems it would also need layering, no?

    @toddmaclauchlin296@toddmaclauchlin296Ай бұрын
    • by the time the parachutes deploy the craft has already been slowed down to just a few hundred miles an hour.

      @zachmoyer1849@zachmoyer1849Ай бұрын
  • 00:07 lol with one craft that goes where pointing the heat shield in the wrong direction is just one more step to all that data.

    @KoRntech@KoRntech11 күн бұрын
  • I saw the Tiangong Space Station pass by once. I identified it using the Stellarium app and I knew it wasn't the ISS cause the light appeared smaller in the sky.

    @ejmtv3@ejmtv3Ай бұрын
  • I have a question about black holes.. given that black holes take in mass and light cannot escape, would it not be reasonable to say that what happens in a black hole is mass and light being converted into energy? And then once a black hole reaches its limit to contain that energy, it expels matter and light…. And would that then be considered a white hole?

    @user-rk6fz2hz2o@user-rk6fz2hz2oАй бұрын
  • Agreed the ol space adversary very astute.

    @CanadianPrimate@CanadianPrimateАй бұрын
  • Question why don't they move it to another kyper point and assemble it all out there???

    @Mr_Darius0070@Mr_Darius0070Ай бұрын
  • A helpful analogy for visualizing an object entering Earth's atmosphere is to envision yourself in a speeding boat, seated at the edge, with your hands skimming the water. The sensation of the turbulent fluid rushing past your hands, potentially causing harm, mirrors the experience of an object encountering Earth's atmosphere.

    @yaelbj@yaelbjАй бұрын
  • that 42 had me going too 😂

    @JoseHernandez-bh8ix@JoseHernandez-bh8ixАй бұрын
  • I am surprised a reference was not made to the movie "Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets" in reference to the space station becoming "outdated". Just curious... what is the rational behind not directing old space equipment towards the sun and in that way incinerate it?

    @Eltoca21@Eltoca21Ай бұрын
    • It's simply easier to deorbit and send older space equipment crashing into the ocean than to use all that energy to propel it another 93 million miles (150 million kilometers). Only exception of this was when NASA launched the Parker Solar Probe to get an up close view of the Sun.

      @TheSilverShadow17@TheSilverShadow17Ай бұрын
  • So Neil, two Empire State Buildings on the shelf but no Chrysler Building? Looks like someone plays favorites with mid-town Art Deco Skyscrapers!

    @jonshellmusic@jonshellmusicАй бұрын
  • I absolutely love the editing in this explanation.😂😂😂😂😂chuck

    @vhbata4220@vhbata4220Ай бұрын
  • Chuck’s advertisement about his mental heath journey is great! BUT, I sometimes wonder if he gets tired of playing dumb. I BELIEVE this man to have vast intellect. It is obvious due to his quick witedness.

    @mariahbrown4830@mariahbrown4830Ай бұрын
  • Sir Chuck, I was drawing a blank on seven squared myself. Some days I shine. Some days I'm prone catching on fire. Lol

    @bradheath4200@bradheath4200Ай бұрын
  • 2:50 OMG THE EDITING LOL they never do meme edits

    @sketchtheparadigmyork1217@sketchtheparadigmyork1217Ай бұрын
  • 4:34 teaching at its finest! From on educator to another...well, done.

    @kimberlymonsini2604@kimberlymonsini2604Ай бұрын
  • We all know that 42 is the "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything". Chuck you were right, my man.

    @KwazyBoba@KwazyBobaАй бұрын
  • Beautiful

    @kirandeepchakraborty7921@kirandeepchakraborty7921Ай бұрын
  • Neil looked genuinely hurt by that 42, the man looks distraught 😩 the way it hit him I thought oh no 🙆🏾‍♂️😟 then the music and visual editing was spot on 👌🏿

    @MzeeMoja1@MzeeMoja1Ай бұрын
  • Their conversation about E=mc² illustrates most people's gap between knowing something and understanding something.

    @solo-ion3633@solo-ion363317 күн бұрын
  • Star talk radio on Alexa 👍 Star talk on KZhead 👍 Neil Degrasse Tyson and Sir Chuck 👍👍 That is all

    @outdoorsy01@outdoorsy01Ай бұрын
  • we need a funny sound or a counter every time they clash hands pleeeeeaaaaseeee

    @RevolutionX42@RevolutionX42Ай бұрын
  • Cosmic Crib sounds cool

    @Oceans305@Oceans305Ай бұрын
  • Chuck starts to talk about Taiwan and almost causes an international incident.

    @jimmyzhao2673@jimmyzhao2673Ай бұрын
  • 4:24 - i dont know Why i appreciate the amount of echo on that "E!", but i do

    @rtyuik7@rtyuik7Ай бұрын
  • Nice 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

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  • Love you Chuck.

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