2023 Toyota Supra vs Camaro 2SS 1LE vs Nissan Z. Drag and Roll Race.
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2023 Toyota Supra vs Camaro 2SS 1LE vs Nissan Z. Drag and Roll Race.
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2023 Toyota Supra vs Camaro 2SS 1LE vs Nissan Z. Drag and Roll Race.
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Coming from a MKV 6MT owner: Camaro, Z or MKV, we need to treasure all these cars as they die off and we are all forced into electric in the future. I can honestly say as a car enthusiasts I lived through one of the greatest generations from 90'-2020s. Turbo spooling, V8 sounds, exhausts, etc.
You get it. Nice to appreciate all cars. Turbo or V8? Both awesome.
@@miketym2642 I mean that. I seriously think we lived through the greatest car enthusiast generation. The next generation of kids driving EVs won't know what a turbo spooling, intake sound, etc means. They missed out on this
Agreed. I had all those cars, and I'm hoping to get one more gen from Supra before they're turned into soulless appliances or killed off like the Camaro. I almost bought the MKV, so close, but ended up with the SS 1LE. I'm hoping Toyota addresses a couple things and gives us one more gen with electric assist at most, and I'll get one. Toyota is easily the most exciting enthusiast driven automaker on the planet right now.
@@jrzez I'm with you. My MKV 6MT isn't perfect, but she's fun. I think they will deliver a hybrid Supra or something similar to what bmw is doing going slowly into electrification. I had that Camaro as a close 2nd choice on my last. Last of a generation V8 engines.
@@jrzez I got the 2022 Camaro 2SS 1LE with the 6 speed. But I do like the Supra and it's potential. Probably the only car I would possibly trade in the Camaro for.
Z is losing every race unfortunately
Hey my acuras are losing constantly bro it's okay lmao😂
On this channel and all channels, against all cars. I rarely see the new Z on the road. See Supras all the time.
@@justme307 they have much better leasing and financing options that's all that comes down to. Same why you don't see Acura tlx-s, CTR's, same you will see with the Acura Integra type s. Also the performance on all non Acura top sport trims is horrible. The new integra Aspec has a 7.4 0-60. 95 integra LS has a 7.5.
even worse, losing to a car that was released in 2016
@@justme307well supras have been out for like 5 years now LOL
Honestly the camaro didnt do too bad despite being 400 lbs more than the Supra. It ended up being closer than I thought.
Most of that extra weight is due to the V8.
It also has about 100 more HP )
@@jpSD297 Supras B58 is about 440 hp..... It makes 385 to the wheels.
Camaro guy was short shifting so it would of been much better with a barely decent driver.
@@jpizel1070entire turbo setups weight about as much as an aluminum v8. (Case and point are LS swaped RX7’s). The camaro simply has a heavier chassis.
That second race against the Camaro with the z just proves it’s a drivers race.
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Which car would Allah pick?😂
Allah is a Chevy guy?
@@willy3sticks647 😂
It also proves that the z is slow
You can't quick shift a Camaro, you have to wring those gears out .
True I rev my ls3 to 6500 on the shift... pulls like an animal
Short shifting the Camaro is going to kill its time.
Yeah leave it auto! you can't shift it faster than the computer. A ss is actually really fast with the 10 speed auto it would destroy the stock supra. It's beating the z by a bus length 🤦♂️
Well then you'd have to use an auto Supra as well to make it fair@@jak3est
@@jak3est I could shift faster in my 17 ZL1 with the 6spd than the 10spd counterpart. All depends on the driver skill level and if they want to use the "no lift shift" option which the Auto can't do. At the end, it's driver preference and I'd prefer to row through the gears than have some computer have all the fun.
@@TheWolfMatt well yeah i get where you're coming from but for the most part the autos coming out in these new sports cars are fast. So when you see someone racing using the paddles they're actually going to be slower than letting the ecu hit the exact redline shift for you than you short shifting which is what i meant. Which is probably why that ss is nearly a full second slower than it should be... which is even sadder for that z lol
@@bfiremitch yeah thatd be interesting because the supra auto is the zedev 7spd which is a Great auto transmission had the same one in my Charger scatpack driven stick my whole life but after owning that car i get why the stick is becoming more rare
The Camaro driver did good in the drag against the Z but not the Supra. Don’t know why he wasn’t using the no lift shift. 🤷🏻 result would have been different
No
@@SSH939He was DEFINITELY sandbagging in his race against the supra .
Nls would’ve helped but the Supra makes it’s peak torque damn near at 2k rpm off the line those b58s are killers off the line. Camaro has the top end tho
Definitely short shifting against the supra🙄
He was playing with the Supra.
Idk why a lot of y’all in the comments are shocked the Z lost, the Supra realistically has around the same Hp as the Camaro
382 hp, but a huge 300-600lbs weight diff. Add headers, E85, and weight redux on the supra and you are going to beat most FBO camaros simply because of weight diff. Add 2 fat people to the supra, and you'll see the difference weight makes especially in those low torque 6 bangers.
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@@Fluke2SS 100%...when I had a 4 cylinder I could tell a massive difference having a passenger and not having one.
@@David-bv6xz I'm doing "Allah's," Mom...😱
@@Fluke2SS low torque 6 cylinder? Check out a stock dyno of the 2021+ models. They make about 390whp and 410 lb ft at the wheels stock.
Camaro almost a decade old and still highly relevant. It’s a shame more people don’t buy them in order to justify a new model.
The visibility is what the biggest gripe was and the maro was my top favorite until the supra was born. Still my #2. It was the lightest out of all modern sports cars with big hp until now. Hope they revive it with some new platform and serious thought on giving it a real identity just like the vette. The supra should have won the roll, I think it was driver skill and the guy with the maro really knew his car that's how he did so well give the weight disadvantage. Unfortunately the Nissan is like the Acura type s where it's just not winning anything lol. Effort for at least making a z despite Nissan being low rn. They'll come back up eventually. Respect to all the companies making fun cars especially now.
Oh come on its not a decade old. That thing has been tweaked and revised for 13 years. The Supra 3, if anything it should be bounds ahead. But it's not😢. It's time for the Camaro to bow out. In a world full of inline 6 turbo charges cars, Chevy is decades behind.
@@JU5TAV6only in a straight line. On a road course that Camaro disappears from the Supra.
@@p.smallz6168 sadly, I don't think that is true. I love Camaros I have owned several and own one now. The new Supra is an animal.
“The Camaro is over a decade years old.” 🤦♂️ The Camaro is just a low tech crap car. Get that in your head. It still uses a pushrod. NOBODY uses that garbage anymore. Doesn’t matter that’s it’s heavier. It’s just an underwhelming car. Simple. The Supra is simply the better car.
Idk why they don’t use the auto Z for drag racing, it’s so much quicker than the standard version
This the same camaro since 2016 and it’s still giving the competition all it can handle Take them to the track and the maro will dust them 😂
ummm no.
@@mattyoz0 umm yes, the SS1le will dog both of them. And it’s been out since 2017 Imports just can’t compete dollar for performance
@@GODEYE270115 Imagine making the best bang for buck sports car in history and it won't sell because you forgot to make it look good 😂
And got 4 places
Video hasn't released yet. Prediction - whichever car is auto, will win. If all cars are manual, whichever car has the better driver between the SS or the Supra, that car will win lol. The Z doesn't stand a chance in manual form.
Z doesn't have a chance??? 😂 okay
@@theLovatoFam did you watch the video? It got smoked, as predicted.
@@theLovatoFam It didn't have a chance. It's outclassed by both unfortunately, from every aspect at that.
That SS 1LE - Minus the visual mods 🔥🇺🇸
Am I the only one that noticed the Camaro was short -shifting against the Supra? People can't be this dumb.
Clicking on any Z drag race video always hurts because I just know it’s losing before the video even starts
Sam can’t drive that car.. lol
Yeah you can see how the botched shifting in the drag race
Dont know why in the supra vs camaro, the camaro short shift..in the first drag race
These are some good runs. The 1le should have been in 1st for the 40 rolls. I think it would've taken the supra if it was. Also bit higher rpm launch from dead stop. Either way good video.
I honestly think the 10 speed would of absolutely taken it to gapplebees in every which Way lol. I was kinda surprised it took the camaro in the drag races but I guess since it's lighter it makes sense
I wish it was the same Z driver from the last race with the CT4V BW and the Supra. That's the only person I've seen properly handle the manual.
Dude in the camaro is short shifting big time. Gotta rev it out more. Gearing in the manual, is very tall.
100% way too early
I own a 1ss 1le and I shift it at 6500 rpm no lift shift! None of those jap crap cars would've beat the Camaro! I seen Sam no lift shift the CT5 blackwing, he should have driven the 1le!
That Camaro is amazing and one of the best ways to get into a powerful V8 for under 50k, but that Supra is just on a other level.
Not likely under 50k anymore with the 1LE package, especially the 2SS. I have a ‘22 1SS 1LE and it was 50k, but damn was it worth it. You get so much in that package that you would never be able to do aftermarket at the same price. If you just want the V8 grab the LT1 and make a drag racing beast 😊
@@Alan_Chapman 2024 are now going for 55K for the last year of production.
Pretty sure the Camaro would beat the Supra around a race track with that 1LE package.
@@norwegianblue2017 a 5th gen 1le has similar track times as the supra
Camaro would have won the drag race too, had he not short-shifted. Impressive considering the price and being a 7 year old car
Yep that is what I also noticed.. they need a good driver in the Camaro who knows how to shift.
none of these drivers know how to shift@@memopadilla5931
@@memopadilla5931 yea and remove al the stupid crap he put on the outside that just slows it down.
Supra would beat Camaro anytime
@@lezzeppelin2222 from a dig it might have a chance but anywhere else it doesn't. The Camaro has a more sophisticated, faster, 10 speed gearbox, but more importantly, about 50 more hp, and ft/lbs torque.
Great video! It’s amazing how well the Camaro 1LE is doing without any changes for the last 6-7 years! It just tells you it punches wayy above its weight class, the crazy part is when it’s full bolt on it beats a lot of cars
It was a good video.
To be fair its become a pretty expensive vehicle
there was a big change in 2019 it got the 10-speed
@@thanosianthemadtitanic true but too bad nobody reviews those. 6speed are more favorable
@@BLUPRINT1LE nah if you want to be fast and win races 10 speed is where it’s at
Supra light weight definitely helps from a dig, but it sure seemed like the camaro driver was short shifting the camaro.
Camaro just granny shifting and winning 😂
It’s gonna come down to driver with the Manuel’s. That NLS in the Camaro might take this one.
This was so close, was wondering about that. In the right hands, NLS can definitely shave some time. Nice to see how closely matched the Supra is to Camaro; its brute strength versus lighter platform. All that said, I like having a back seat 😊
Emanuel🤠
I'm very impressed buy Toyota and Nissan, however it's hard to beat a true classic Chevy... awesome races! Over-the-top comparisons thank you thank you
Tf??? A youtube premier…come on dude what is this world, what have they done to us?! What did they do to us?! 😂
You have become very impatient.
Love your videos. The Camaro SS is an amazing car. Thats all I'm going to say. Keep the great content coming!!
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@@David-bv6xzshut up
You have to be joking or just uneducated
@@David-bv6xz you are a idiot
Nice video keep up the good work Sam
The Camaro has "no lift shift" but doesn't seem like it was used. Does the Z and Supra have that feature?
Great video and races. I could be wrong but it sounded like the guy in the Camaro was short shifting too often. They're all pretty close anyway which was cool.
Same im sure he had a reason but he definitely short shifted 1st both times and it seems he didn’t do it against the first car. Interesting. Cool races
Great video Sam 🙏🙏
The guy in the SS is not running car to it max RPM , that’s why is losing his drag race!
Wow very surprising coming from a 1SS owner. The cars coming out now are faster than ever and that's awesome!
They’re boosted. Boost the V8 and it’s no contest
That camaro driver is pretty good, he also knows when he short shifted. He’s a good driver 😊
Top 10 on this channel! Good race
Dude was short shifting the zuck out of the camaro...wtf
Why did the Camaro driver shift so good in the drag race against the Z and then short shifted on both drag races against the supra😂
I have the 2SS 1LE, its an amazing car and sounds incredible
Why does the ss driver shift from first at 4500?
Just think about the power and the quickness of the Supra when it's updated. 🔥🔥🔥
Just got my ss first v8 love it
@@royogletree9997Enjoy it bro. V8s will no longer be available in the near future. Collectible
@@chrisginocnonsense. If people buy them, they'll be for sale. Soon enough, neo- evangelical leftists will trip and fall into their own doo doo, and history will not be kind to them. Nothing they have to offer is based on science or truth, and the majority of people recognize it.
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I have a 1le and want a corvette now before it’s too late
Why would you compare the 1LE package it's slower than the regular SS by .2/.3 seconds??
Another episode of awesome fun cars I cant afford....😂😂🤙✊
I've seen in person a 2SS (non 1LE) Camaro beat Supra's no problem (both stock). The auto would be a better comparison bc there would be less driver error.
You Probably saw a 2020 Supra with 50hp less, it will not beat a 2021 and up Supra! Sam literally has a video of that match up, scroll down his videos.
Another sick video!
Glad you liked it!
Great video as usual Sam, but why did the Supra only get one roll race?
Low turbo spool
@SamCarLegion Thanks for that explanation Sam.
Maybe the tires are bigger on the supra helping with traction. This may be the way to go since you don't have the drivetrain loss of all wheel drive at the top end, or maybe not as much.
Please don't let this guy drive the SS !! 😢
This format is really good now.
Beginning intro with cars giving NFS vibes I love it
Insane cars !! ❤❤
Nice work going the manual! ❤
I absolutely love your videos Sam ❤️🔥🔥❤️
Glad you like them!
@@SamCarLegiondude can definitely tell which cars you want to perform better or showcase. 😂😂
And most importantly the Camaro destroys the other 2 on the track
BMW makes great sports cars. My favorite was the CSL E46 M3!!! Back in the day.🥰
Want to see the New Nism⭕ vs the Supra
I'm willing to bet that if the z had a better trans it would be holding up a bit better . Imo I would rather have the z than the other two just for the looks
The Air Freshener hanging on the camaro's mirror... nice touch!! Great Style 👍👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I hate wen Sam drives certain cars he shifts slow asf and he doesn’t knows how to launch a car
Nissan constantly reminding everyone that they can’t make a good sports car anymore.
Great race but I would like to see races between some two and three row SUV’s soon
Stopping distance: 500 feet
but why
This channel rules!!!!!!!!
Can we get a challenger vs mustang gt vs camaro ss video
Impressive. The manual is suppose to be 4.1-4.2 0-60 according to car mags. This is the first time i heard of a stock manual dipping into the 3 second range.
they are just putting rated numbers on the screen(which they wrongly used the 8AT number) not what they actually ran. Judging by how poor they launch and shift, I'll say they are in the 5sec range 0-60 actual time.
@@Kai240i supra is not a 5sec car, it's more like a 4.2 or a 4.5 vehicle in the real world, ive tested the 2021 automatic version the best i could get from it was 4.2 seconds, i also heard the manual is much faster maybe thats the reason it hit 3.9 seconds
Never heard of the manual supra being quicker than the zf8 supra. All comparisons has the auto at least 0.3 secs quicker!
Supra dominates all
That was not domination. You need your eyes checked.
Dude was short shifting and sandbagging in the camaro vs the Supra 😂😂😂. It was so obvious
Sam can you race the Lexus is 350 f sport.
My car is a 17' Camaro SS 6speed. My car never crackled and pooped to the level of this 2023 camaro thank god. My exhaust just gets deeper and smoother with age and C and Ps it had have diminished and I have the dual mode exhaust I keep in sport mode. Rumors are Chevy is tuning in the Cs and Ps, they need to tune that sh!t out! My Camaro has been my daily driver for over 6 years and 66k miles now! Still runs like new.✊😝
Not sure how u lost the roll race with Supra vs SS maybe driver? Supra should be faster from roll
Yeah he already did auto vs Auto before Supra vs LT1 (Same power as SS) and Supra won all races. You can see Supra was edging in but Camaro driver was shifting faster.
@@oldfriend7618 yea Sam can’t shift at all lol 😂
So why was he short-shifting the Camaro ?
i think the Z can do much better if the driver is good
Since i use to own a 10 speed 5.0, I want to see one inserted.
Guy with the 1LE looks like he was short shifting. And not in track mode with no lift shift.
1le package is heavier than regular 2ss. I wonder if regular ss can pull on supra
I would have used no lift shift and made it worse on the BMW and Z.
Where are you located? Would enjoy bringing my car for you to drive.
That camaro needs a driver mod 👀
Short shifting those gears.
The Chevy LT1 is a wicked motor.. 455hp NA stock 😆 my 16 has the same motor and we have these twin turbo 2023s that can't hang with the LT1. Don't even want to get into the HP gains by going NA E85 and tune this 1LE would beat a stock ZL1.. the LT1 Bad Azz American Muscle!!
Opinions are like .... what is it again? "Don't even wanna get into HP gains of going NA e85 and tune the 1le would beat a stock ZL1" Dumb and dumber in the flesh right here....smh
That exhaust sound! What happened to the 350Z's throaty growl?
B58 for the win🎉🎉🎉
Wow the last couple races the camaro driver short shifted the sh!+ outta second gear, I bet he wasn't even at 3000rpm lol
I own a 22 supra and the thing about it being a bmw really is, unlike the Camaro all you need is to drop a tune over your phone like I did with MHD stage 2 tune and it becomes a brand new beast. Gaining almost 100tq and almost 70hp.
The only good thing about the Z is the tuning options because the motor has been around since 2016 in the Infiniti Red Sport. I have a 2018 Luxe 3.0T and I had a turbo replaced at about 35k miles.
They ironed many of the issues out for that engine by now and as you said great for aftermarket. But that's not enough, the real reason to get a Z is for the looks...
the supra even got that area beat the b58 have way more aftermarket support plust the b58 engine is proven motor that is able to handle 4 digits power with stock bottom ends.
Get the quick 10 speeds in here for any muscle cars
Camaro driver >> Z driver >> Supra driver
Would like to see this with auto transmissions. It would be a more fair comparison. Drag 1 with the Supra the driver nailed that shift into 2nd perfectly and he knew it. The Camaro driver wasn’t as quick on the clutch that time. I think both cars would be dead even or very close to it if they were auto. I’ve driven a manual mustang cobra for the last 18 years, I’m kind of looking forward to the AT Supra whenever the hell it’ll be delivered haha.
:(
Can you do a 2018 mustang gt against a 2018 Camaro ss ?
Nice race
Nissan silently cursing every time Sam does one of these races lol
From a dig the Camaro had a bad start, and the guy is shifting to soon against the supra. Can hear it in the rpm's. There's a reason M6's are for fun, and A10's are for the win.
SS still better car and cheaper than both the other options. Also if the SS actually knows how to launch his car he beats the Supra easily. Wasn’t leaving the line hard scared to drive hard.
This camaro is the 1LE track car. Both of these cars would be demolished by the Camaro on a road course. It wouldn't be pretty.
The Camaro slowed down .10 in the quarter over the duration of this video.
Camaro Driver is a Desi Guy
Quick interesting Supra great launch and light to.😊
The supra just never fails to disapoint its critics and haters.
The camaro driver needs a class. 1le has no lift shift at 5k rpm and up, drive it correct
Short shifting those gears on the SS in the supra drag race..
Whoever was driving the z has no driver mod
Remember when he gave the Nissan Z the car of the year award. Pepperidge Farm remembers.