Reading attack inquest: Deaths were “probably avoidable”
2024 ж. 25 Сәу.
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An inquest has concluded that the deaths of three friends who were stabbed in Reading four years ago were "probably avoidable".
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The judge coroner said the failings of multiple agencies contributed to the killings by Khairi Saadallah - a Libyan refugee released from prison 15 days earlier who should have been treated as extremist and "very dangerous".
The parents of one of the victims told Channel 4 News they hope today's findings will prevent other families going through the same needless heartbreak.
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Why were his rights to live in the UK put ahead of our rights?
Its almost like the probation service has collapsed.
The leaders of the UK, Scotland, Wales and London are all migrants. You think they care about white people? 🤣
So, who is the coroner blaming ? .... everyone but the perpetrator. The deaths were CERTAINLY avoidable if the creature had not been in our Country in the first place.
You must have watched a different video than the rest of us. This evil man should have been in jail, the underfunded and over stretched privatized probation service failed. Once out of jail he should have been deported.
@@user-sd3ik9rt6d YOU are the one who appears to be out of touch with reality. He is serving a WHOLE LIFE SENTENCE in Belmarsh. In 2021, at expense to us, he was assisted by thieving lawyers and applied for leave to appeal the sentence. Leave was refused. He has many years to come in his cell chanting about 72 virgins. If you are suggesting that his carcase, once he has died many years from now, should be exported, I agree. Let us try somewhere over the Red Sea from 30,000 feet.
Is he going to be deported after serving his sentence?
He is unlikely to ever get out, if he does then you can be sure he would be deported.
@@user-sd3ik9rt6d Transferring him to a Libyan prison would make more sense.
He wasn't deported after his previous prison term, ending in 2020 or other convictions. I would think his welfare, empathy for his background were priotized?.. '1. In 2011, as a teenager in Libya, the Defendant was trained to fight and fought (for a period of at least 8 months) as a member of the extremist Islamic militia Ansar al Sharia (which is now proscribed in this country) - doing so both during the uprising against the Gaddafi regime and after the fall of that regime. 2. When, in the autumn of 2012, the Defendant applied for asylum in this country, he lied about his role in Ansar al-Sharia, and as to the circumstances in which he came to part from them. 3. The Defendant held extremist Islamic views whilst in Ansar al-Sharia, and continued to do so, albeit with lapses (for example in relation to drink and drugs) up to and including the events on 20 June 2020 - as illustrated by his retention of militaristic images relating to his time in Ansar al-Sharia... 4. After his release from a prison sentence on 5 June 2020, the Defendant began to plan his attack and, by 15 June 2020, had identified Forbury Gardens as a potential venue for it. On 17 June 2020, he reconnoitred Forbury Gardens and confirmed it as the venue. ..13. At the Police station he admitted, on a number of occasions, that what he had done was Jihad (in the sense used by extremists) and that as a result he was going to paradise. ..In considering this issue I have applied the Guideline in relation to sentencing offenders with mental disorders. Having considered the evidence, including the evidence of the various psychiatrists who examined the Defendant on 21, 23 and 25 June 2020 and the compelling reasoning in the statements of the Prosecution psychiatrist Dr Blackwood, I am sure that the Defendant was not suffering from a mental disorder or mental disability which lowered his degree of culpability for any of the offences. Rather, although there are indicators that he had a conduct disorder in childhood, and meets the diagnostic criteria for an anti-social personality disorder and for moderately severe substance misuse disorder, it is clear that the Defendant did not, and does not, have any major mental illness. Indeed, as Dr Blackwood has rightly observed, to the extent that aspects of the Defendant’s behaviour on 18 or 19 June 2020 caused concern to others they were the product of drug consumption, had resolved by the evening of the 19th and played no part in the events of the 20th. Instead, the offences were carried out in a pre-meditated, planned and carefully executed manner, and the Defendant knew the nature and quality of his acts and that what he was doing was wrong. Equally, whilst the offences were shaped by features of the Defendant’s personality disorder, there was no substantial impairment of his ability to understand the nature of his conduct, to form a rational judgment or to exercise self-control. ..The seriousness of the murders is, however, aggravated by the fact that the Defendant has 6 previous convictions for some 16 offences - including 2 for racially or religiously aggravated harassment, 8 for offences of violence, and 2 for the possession of a knife or bladed article. ' Extracts from Judges Sentencing Remarks January 2021
'Saadallah came to the UK in 2012 and tried and failed to get asylum seeker status, but the turmoil in Libya prevented his deportation.' 'While in jail in 2017, he was noted by the prison authorities to be spending significant time with the notorious Islamist radicaliser Omar Brooks, also known as Abu Izzadeen, a long-time member of the now outlawed group al-Muhajiroun.' 'He had been twice refused asylum but, following a judicial review in 2018, was granted leave to remain for five years.' 'The day before his release in June, two weeks before the attack, he was told in a letter that the home secretary had "decided that your deportation is conducive to the public good" but it was not legally possible given conditions in Libya.' Various Guardian/BBC articles in 2020/21
Extracts from Judges sentencing remarks in 2021..'1. In 2011, as a teenager in Libya, the Defendant was trained to fight and fought (for a period of at least 8 months) as a member of the extremist Islamic militia Ansar al Sharia (which is now proscribed in this country) - doing so both during the uprising against the Gaddafi regime and after the fall of that regime. 2. When, in the autumn of 2012, the Defendant applied for asylum in this country, he lied about his role in Ansar al-Sharia, and as to the circumstances in which he came to part from them. 3. The Defendant held extremist Islamic views whilst in Ansar al-Sharia, and continued to do so, albeit with lapses (for example in relation to drink and drugs) up to and including the events on 20 June 2020 - as illustrated by his retention of militaristic images relating to his time in Ansar al-Sharia... 4. After his release from a prison sentence on 5 June 2020, the Defendant began to plan his attack and, by 15 June 2020, had identified Forbury Gardens as a potential venue for it. On 17 June 2020, he reconnoitred Forbury Gardens and confirmed it as the venue. ..13. At the Police station he admitted, on a number of occasions, that what he had done was Jihad (in the sense used by extremists) and that as a result he was going to paradise. ..In considering this issue I have applied the Guideline in relation to sentencing offenders with mental disorders. Having considered the evidence, including the evidence of the various psychiatrists who examined the Defendant on 21, 23 and 25 June 2020 and the compelling reasoning in the statements of the Prosecution psychiatrist Dr Blackwood, I am sure that the Defendant was not suffering from a mental disorder or mental disability which lowered his degree of culpability for any of the offences. Rather, although there are indicators that he had a conduct disorder in childhood, and meets the diagnostic criteria for an anti-social personality disorder and for moderately severe substance misuse disorder, it is clear that the Defendant did not, and does not, have any major mental illness. Indeed, as Dr Blackwood has rightly observed, to the extent that aspects of the Defendant’s behaviour on 18 or 19 June 2020 caused concern to others they were the product of drug consumption, had resolved by the evening of the 19th and played no part in the events of the 20th. Instead, the offences were carried out in a pre-meditated, planned and carefully executed manner, and the Defendant knew the nature and quality of his acts and that what he was doing was wrong. Equally, whilst the offences were shaped by features of the Defendant’s personality disorder, there was no substantial impairment of his ability to understand the nature of his conduct, to form a rational judgment or to exercise self-control. ..The seriousness of the murders is, however, aggravated by the fact that the Defendant has 6 previous convictions for some 16 offences - including 2 for racially or religiously aggravated harassment, 8 for offences of violence, and 2 for the possession of a knife or bladed article.'
News accounts of Asylum requests /Goverments deportation applications.. 'Saadallah came to the UK in 2012 and tried and failed to get asylum seeker status, but the turmoil in Libya prevented his deportation.' 'While in jail in 2017, he was noted by the prison authorities to be spending significant time with the notorious Islamist radicaliser Omar Brooks, also known as Abu Izzadeen, a long-time member of the now outlawed group al-Muhajiroun.' 'He had been twice refused asylum but, following a judicial review in 2018, was granted leave to remain for five years.' 'The day before his release in June, two weeks before the attack, he was told in a letter that the home secretary had "decided that your deportation is conducive to the public good" but it was not legally possible given conditions in Libya.' Various Guardian/BBC articles 2020/21
Early release... 'had been imprisoned for 25 months in October 2019 but the sentence was reduced on appeal.' At least his second term (2017) in prison, however he then was released 5 June 2020, after 7-9 months served. The Reading murders, attacks was 15 days later 'While in jail in 2017, he was noted by the prison authorities to be spending significant time with the notorious Islamist radicaliser Omar Brooks, also known as Abu Izzadeen, a long-time member of the now outlawed group al-Muhajiroun.' Guardian/BBC 20/21 articles
Was he another illegal immigrant?
No another Goat Groomer.Of course he wasan illigel.Maybe the one jug ears Liniker had in his home.👂👂
Of course he wasn't. He was in the system, you don't even know what an illegal immigrant is do you
He lied about his background when he claimed asylum. We take people for their word, account. Also, obviously some countries don't have the same criminal history records protocols etc.., or reporting culture. Extracts from Judges Sentencing Remarks January 2021.. '1. In 2011, as a teenager in Libya, the Defendant was trained to fight and fought (for a period of at least 8 months) as a member of the extremist Islamic militia Ansar al Sharia (which is now proscribed in this country) - doing so both during the uprising against the Gaddafi regime and after the fall of that regime. 2. When, in the autumn of 2012, the Defendant applied for asylum in this country, he lied about his role in Ansar al-Sharia, and as to the circumstances in which he came to part from them. 3. The Defendant held extremist Islamic views whilst in Ansar al-Sharia, and continued to do so, albeit with lapses (for example in relation to drink and drugs) up to and including the events on 20 June 2020 - as illustrated by his retention of militaristic images relating to his time in Ansar al-Sharia... 4. After his release from a prison sentence on 5 June 2020, the Defendant began to plan his attack and, by 15 June 2020, had identified Forbury Gardens as a potential venue for it. On 17 June 2020, he reconnoitred Forbury Gardens and confirmed it as the venue. ..13. At the Police station he admitted, on a number of occasions, that what he had done was Jihad (in the sense used by extremists) and that as a result he was going to paradise. ..In considering this issue I have applied the Guideline in relation to sentencing offenders with mental disorders. Having considered the evidence, including the evidence of the various psychiatrists who examined the Defendant on 21, 23 and 25 June 2020 and the compelling reasoning in the statements of the Prosecution psychiatrist Dr Blackwood, I am sure that the Defendant was not suffering from a mental disorder or mental disability which lowered his degree of culpability for any of the offences. Rather, although there are indicators that he had a conduct disorder in childhood, and meets the diagnostic criteria for an anti-social personality disorder and for moderately severe substance misuse disorder, it is clear that the Defendant did not, and does not, have any major mental illness. Indeed, as Dr Blackwood has rightly observed, to the extent that aspects of the Defendant’s behaviour on 18 or 19 June 2020 caused concern to others they were the product of drug consumption, had resolved by the evening of the 19th and played no part in the events of the 20th. Instead, the offences were carried out in a pre-meditated, planned and carefully executed manner, and the Defendant knew the nature and quality of his acts and that what he was doing was wrong. Equally, whilst the offences were shaped by features of the Defendant’s personality disorder, there was no substantial impairment of his ability to understand the nature of his conduct, to form a rational judgment or to exercise self-control. ..The seriousness of the murders is, however, aggravated by the fact that the Defendant has 6 previous convictions for some 16 offences - including 2 for racially or religiously aggravated harassment, 8 for offences of violence, and 2 for the possession of a knife or bladed article. '
As a Muslim I say don't let them in... But greedy capitalists need cheap labour
Are you sure? Given the size of the Muslim population they are the biggest claimants of benefits
@@MB10-66BIGGEST CLAIMANTS ? HOW MANY IMMIGRANTS ARE THERE COMPARED TO UK BORN PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY CLAIMING BENEFITS ? EDUCATE YOURSELF.
Go home sand dweller
The government gives out plenty of visas to let people come and work, as many as they want. The asylum seekers aren't being let it for that reason.
@@adrianthoroughgood1191 There's a global fertility rate crisis and global skilled worker shortage. Even decades before this asylum seekers/immigrants have a positive impact for the billionaires and negative impact for the working class.
I am a father of three kids and my heart is broken every time when parents,families and friends are losing their dearest ones who cannot be replaced by anyone and anything,I am very sorry about this,just please can you imagine what must feel all their in Ukraine or Gaza where hundreds of thousands lose live,and those who provided humanitarian aid and paid for it their own live?We need to looks at own brain where it all are going,God Bless Peace People on this planet.
Of course the faith of the perpetrator was irrelevant
He didn't have a faith 🙄. He was a child soldier, that means he didn't grow up in a normal environment with the proper teachings. Use your head for once
Well he had a faith, just a very bad interpretation of it. All religious followers are in cohorts based on their interpretations @blindbrad4719. He was on the watch list because he was an extremist risk and seen as a possible lone-wolf attacker. However, he also has mental health problems worsened by drugs and alcohol so he's definitely not a good practitioner of his faith.
@@awfan221 the world is pretty sure the bad mental health came from being a child soldier. The coping strategy was drugs and alcohol since mental health is a joke hearing the UK to the government
What happened in reading?
Vote Reform!
Reform are right wing, which means cuts to services. Cuts to services are why he was able to kill. Right wing want cheap foreigners here and the right wing want services underfunded, to help the rich get richer while working people suffer. Tories let in 475,000 immigrants last year. The highest number ever. This is after Brexit. Why do the Tories let in so many cheap workers? To cut wages, so the rich get richer while working people suffer. 15 years of Tory right wing, and do you feel better, do the people you know have more money or less? Are your bills much higher? Where is your bill money going to? Rich lazy shareholders who take percentages from working people. That's where your bill money goes to. Enough is enough.
So sad and tears flow.❤❤❤
Makes me so upset
david was one of the most placid people you would ever meet. he had no fucking chance...
watch podcast of the lotus eater for more honest analysis of this kind of stuff
I will devote my life to preventing this learning all i can right now i will be a major part of the refusal of this ideology
Nothing new about this I'm afraid. The mad and dangerous should never of been let out of the asylums.
yes maybe those dangerous extremists should stay in jail
or their dinghies never be allowed to land in the first place....
UK must BAN HALAL!!
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If the government and population of Britain took mental health seriously instead of mocking and demeaning it, this would have been less likely to have happened.
And tv send black reporter to speak with parents. Sick
What is wrong with you?
yet again the UK was enriched with diversity
I sincerely hope that lessons will be learned this time and migrant mental health procedures will be reviewed thoroughly and vigorously to ensure that this doesn't occur again on British soil. Prayers and resolve
Refugees have rights!
Refugees don’t come from France. Criminals do.
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Shut up keep believes to yourself
Go away.
its the government you need call them at 666Wehateourindigenousworkingclass@.gov
She was 6. he was 54. Dirty.
ENOUGH