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I will NEVER stop hating Disney for what they've done to The Hulk...
Are you kidding me? Hulk comes off a a freakin Chad compared to what they did Thor.
@@Publicenemy85 all the men got pushed into the dirt and got stomped on by their women counterparts ( even black widow got stomped into the ground ) as a women myself i don't wanna be represented as a better version of a man, i want to have men and women work together. and they basically showed us that thor had ptsd from thanos but they played it for laughs. and with she-hulk i don't want to have that giving women empowerment. but the only superhero i started off hating and ended up loving is spiderman ( tom holland ) i hated him because i thought his superhero life was too easy because he had stark to back him up and give him all the tools like the suit, but at the end of no way home im glad the world forgot he was spiderman only because he needed that but emotional blow that we see in other spider man movies
@@KZheadBlobMcFish this, as a woman myself, I hate the woke marvel another example is how WandaVision would've been perfect as a fallen hero story, and they were doing just that but in the end they chickened out and kept excusing Wanda's actions. Let her be a villain, we really need well written villains now more than ever. WandaVision should've been her villain origin story instead of "Oh she read the Darkhold offscreen"
@@Publicenemy85 No fucking way, out of the two of them Hulk definetely had it worse!
That's another one of the reasons why I hate Disney
Loki's reflexes are fast enough to catch an speeding arrow while traveling through the air at a high rate of speed but he can't dodge a time cop's baton. Come on now.
Just rewatched The Avengers recently (brilliant film) and man Loki had some serious screen presence in that movie.
And the person who swung the baton did it so slow, he wouldn’t need those fast reflexes 😂
I hate that loki died in infinity war the way he did. It would be so cool for there to be an ALLIED trickster in infinity war and endgame, but I guess the writers saw it as too high of a task and instead decided to pile on more Thor trauma.
@@thegloriousryan8981I saw someone online joke that he was killed because he would definitely steal the time stone and wouldn't hesitate to kill Vision.
Guys, it's official. MCU has morphed into CW.
Batwoman: “you can kill the person, but not the idea”.
whats cw
@@iluvchess14736 You're so lucky, my friend. Let it stay this way. xD
@@petrastein2531 ... It's culture war isn't it
Now this is why Thanos tried snapping half the universe, so that we wouldn’t have to witness the plethora of garbage that is phase 4.
Luckily, we live in a universe where, overall, most Phase 4 projects were good, not worse than any movie in the Infinity Saga
@deadpooldan9862really?you like the multiverse of madness
@@deadpooldan9862 multiverse of madness was trash, Ant Man Quantumania was trash and the only positive thing about Thor Love and Thunder was Christian Bale playing Gorr and Chris Hemsworth. The only good projects in Phase 4 was Spider Man No Way Home.
@@Raihan__4535 yeah, it was a good movie
@@proximacentauri3342 there were no bad MCU movies or shows in Phase 4 or 5 except She Hulk
Being a fan of the MCU during endgame and before is like being a fan of breathing Being a fan of the MCU in 2023 is like being a fan of swallowing Nuclear fission waste Remember when in the MCU hero entrances and lines were cool now it just makes you go: "what the hell is this"
Iron Man's entrance in Avengers is unforgettable. "Agent Romanoff... you miss me?"
*ABSOLUTELY!*
*_"We need to stop calling them terrorist."_* A True Black American Falcon Feather Man
I feel like I'm the only one who thought that Thor's character wasn't destroyed in endgame. He lost everything and feels like it's his fault so I think it's logical for him to become depressed, and then him fighting at the end and being himself again, winning against depression is a pretty impactful moment to me. I just didn't like how it was treated ike a joke, and of course I hated his character in Thor 4 because it was illogical and fucking atrocious
So I wouldn’t say that his character was destroyed in Endgame, but as soon as I saw fat Thor, I understood the direction that the MCU would take with him going forward. It was an early warning sign.
@@realmofloredorand you're proven right in Love and thunder
The biggest gripe I had about Fat Thor was not with Thor himself, it was how the writers treated it as a joke. "Haha! He's fat! Nevermind the psychological and emotional trauma he's just been through and the immense guilt he harbors over Thanos' victory! He's FAT! It's funny!"
@@Sarah_H Endgame is perhaps the biggest waste of the MCU. Oh sure they made ton of money but after Infinity War they could have made a film so better than that. The first 20 minutes are by far the best. You actually see Thor being broken after losing against Thanos. But as soon as they made the timeskip it was just pure MCU joke. Fat Thor was bad, really bad. And 2 hours of the film was just a best of or the precedent films. Infinity War was the peak of the MCU. Since then it's really rough.
@@tyrionlannister9917 I can't watch Endgame now without getting assmad about the time travel that makes no damn sense even within its own universe. If they'd been travelling to alternate dimensions/multiverses to get the Infinity Stones, and multiverse-counterparts of Nebula/Gamora/Thanos/Thanos' entire Goddamn army were the ones traveling to the Sacred Timeline instead of past versions of them, then FINE, that's FINE, but then Disney+ Loki came out and crapped all over Endgame's time travel with "akshually the Infinity Stones still functioning means that they had to have come from the same timeline, so it really WAS like Back To The Future time travel and past-Nebula and past-Thanos dying in the future should have just ripped open the time-space continuum, but it didn't because Big Dumb Superhero Movie and Q U A N T U M"
I remember Loki taking the stiffest right hook from Captain America, a super soldier, and he shrugged it off, because he's a God of course, but some chick with a baton, and seemingly no super human abilities was able to sleep him? That was the MOMENT, I started to realized the MCU was getting worse and worse post Endgame (The Spiderman Epilogues were fine though... Guardians 3 also gets a pass).
Don’t forget he survived a beat down from the hulk.
@@realmofloredor Agreed. But that beatdown floored him. I'm of the belief that a right hook from Captain America probably has more impact than a baton from a time cop. We're supposed to believe that a chick with a Baton could sleep Loki. And I know we're probably not counting the What If show, but remember in the last episode Black Widow floored Loki with a kick and she's objectively weaker than Captain America?? Today's writers don't care at all about anything that came before.
Oh I 100% agree there’s no way in hell Loki should be getting beat by those time cops (remember female Loki killed several of them with ease). I was just referencing other times where his durability was tested. Like you said he got the upper hand against Captain America, fought on par with Thor, and although he got floored by Hulk he still survived. Writing continuity is sidelined by the current MCU unfortunately.
@@realmofloredor Yeah, we agree, glad you have a channel like this calling it out. Hopefully they'll change. If they don't, try to direct your audience toward better projects you find that puts good storytelling over pushing some kind of vapid message.
Gotta watch Loki bruv he got hit w tva weaponry
I'm surprised you were able to trim this down to only 11 minutes. It should really be hours long.
If he makes a sequel or two, I will also watch them.
New MCU is pretty much fucked, a very little proportion of faith remains.
I’m an expert at controlling my anger while getting angry and yelling and displaying the exact opposite
When Tony made Thanos bleed in Infinity War, I went, "Oh my god, he's so goddamn cool!"
stan lee be punching the clouds and crying the rain..
I think Endgames Thor is one of closest times that Marvel has ever been to portraying a serious topic, that and Winter Soldier.
Ah yes, by putting Thor in a fat suit and turning him into a punch line. Foh
Fat suit=not serious now? Ever heard of depression @@TrexAintaChicken
I was never a Fan of the Idea Of Making Loki a Hero, I have always felt him as a Villain, and Sylvie and loki don't work at all, As Much as The plot tries to make you Emphatize will her, She is a Monster, The same with Wanda💀
Thanks for your opinion have a nice week
@@Red_Surfer What pisses me off is that Wanda had potential. She could have been great if the writers simply accepted that she became unhinged but NO! I loved Wandavision but all that "trying to redeem something irredeemable" talk... 😑 _Westview will never comprehend what Poor Wanda sacrificed for them🗿_
@@Red_Surfer That's what I mean. Wanda had potential when she was first introduced in the MCU. She had a sinister undercurrent about her. They could have simply accepted she went full Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs
There are times Loki became a hero but betray the heroes later on.
@@nyx6879 first of all, I am stealing the line "full cuckoo for cocoa puffs", because that is amazing. Second, yes to both you and @Red_Surfer! I don't know much about the comics (because I've never read them) but I always see the discussions surrounding Wanda and how powerful she is and her villain arc in the comics. And I feel like people were speculating that heading into the next phase she could possibly be the new big bad and I was really excited. But then they just completely went off the rails with her arc. I will say, I liked the idea of WandaVision, and I liked how they were exploring Wanda and how she is coping with her grief. But then they did the whole, "Just ignore that she did something terrible" and how it ended just....I personally didn't feel like it lent itself to her succumbing to the dark magic. Yes, it's there, but...something felt off. I don't know how to articulate it. But moving on from that, they build her up as pretty terrifying in Doctor Strange, and instead of just continuing on, they give her another redemption arc? It made no sense and felt like a total waste.
They should’ve left Thanos to do his thing
You forgot fury. Maybe it wasn't out yet, but secret invasion might actually be the worst assassination of a legacy character I've ever seen.
Captain Marvel destroyed him too "The last time I trusted somebody I lost an eye" Yet it tries to convince us he got his eye scratched out by a cat
6:36 when you have not one, not two, but three punchlines that sounded good in your head but you couldn't decide which one it should be.
I honestly was really hyped for She-Hulk cause any Hulk is my favourite. But when it came out it’s clear that no one liked but I really wanted to like it.. but I don’t think anyone can
It’s a shame because the She-Hulk comic’s were good, you had a far better Jennifer Walters, and her superhero origin was neat. It showed a strong relationship between her and Bruce.
Yeah, the whole "I DO IT INFINITELY MORE THAN YOU" kinda proved his point. Which wasn't even him being an ass. He was just giving advice.
Never trust morons to deliver good work
Never trust morons to deliver good work
@SuperJeffyJunior Same. She Hulk is my favorite female Marvel character and I was angry when Alison Brie didn't get cast because, besides not being 5'10". she's perfect for the role. But she dodged a giant green bullet here. She Hulk is literally the worst show I've ever seen in my life, and that's maybe only because I've never watched Velma or The Witcher Blood Origin.
Don't forget Winter Soldier. What was once the most feared assassin in the world is now somebody who regularly gets his ass handed to him by people who absolutely should not be able to take him.
i do think that he constantly is holding back to avoid hurting others.
@@disturbedblair While that might be the case, Marvel's recent track record of destroying all of their male heroes leads me to be more cynical. Besides, even if he WAS holding back, he should still be able to take these suckers no problem.
I also didn't like how the Dora Milage took away his freaking ARM without his consent. That's so dehumanizing, humiliating. He wasn't even a threat at the moment, not really. In every sense of the word he is disabled. That's like kicking the wheelchair from underneath someone who has no legs, for fun. I get that his arm is also a weapon, but they could've handled it better. Not only did they put some safeguards to use against him, presumably without his knowledge (which... isn't much better than how Hydra treated him..), but they've chosen them to be THIS. They could've powered the arm down so it has the strength of a his other, flesh and blood arm, or something... He'd still be strong because supersoldier serum and stuff, but that would've been understandable from a strategic point of view. The way it is it's just cruel and encroaches on a heavily traumatized man's bodily autonomy. And WS was already an apt allegory of a r*ped woman both in how his abusers and the world treated him, so wtf does that say about Wakandans, that they knew the full extent of his trauma, and still decided to treat him this way? It also reeks of conditional charity, which is also a pretty disgusting concept in of its own: we can help you, but it comes at a price of your undying gratitude and obedience. What?????
@@Mia199603 Preach
@@Mia199603 Even before TFatWS, I had a very apathetic opinion toward Wakanda (with the obvious exception of Chadwick Boseman's T'Challa, RIP), but their attitudes and behavior in this show (especially to Bucky Barnes and John Walker), not to mention the casual racism towards white men they engage in, made me actively hate them.
classic MCU
I wish there was some way we could return back to classic MCU Writing.
Im glad you included Loki. I used to love him. Now he is useless in his own show and whiny and cant fight or use magic to save his life. He should have stayed dead.
Loki is a great show what r u on about. There's also no magic in the tva
Then why doesn’t Loki return to his frost giant form?
actually I also didn't like his death in Infinity war that was just bad writing. Like wdym a super smart and cunning character decides to stab thanos from the front? Especially when he knows what thanos is capable of given his encounter with him pre-avengers 2012. I was expecting some elaborate masterminded plan but nope
@@acegardianarocratYeah I didn't like his death either but his show really didn't do him any better.
@@6thgraderfriends I'd argue season 2 was really good but if you're talking about season 1 then you're absolutely right. Like it's one thing being not able to use magic (which presents as a plot device for character development, like in Cars and Thor 1 movies where protag is stuck somewhere) but it's another thing being completely useless to show strong female characters better *cough* sylvie *cough* Sif *cough* Season 2 not only did make Loki the main character: he wasn't using much magic but most decisions were made by him and take centre stage, but also had Sylvie accept her mistake and go back to him. It wasn't woke it was good writing
"They're killing themselves." - Okoye, Infinity War
Captain Black Falcon not knowing what terrorism is is the most realistic writing ever.
What is that supposed to mean? That black people dont know what terrorism is?
still can't believe all the people that shill for the Loki show
0:17. "Is this like a personal attack or something...?!" Now it definitely is!!!
6:18 that would have been really helpful in Infinity War
Hell even as far back as the first Avenger’s movie.
How much longer will we take this crap from Disney? I’m tired of them destroying my child hood characters
I still enjoyed Thor in Endgame because he was went through a lot of shit. I fully agree with Love and Thunder though. That was terrible.
I really hated how he was turned into a joke in Endgame!
I knew at the time what they did to Hulk and Thor would not be isolated to that one movie.
Thor was both equally comedic and serious in Ragnarok and infinity war. But in endgame he is treated like a joke and doesn’t get a payoff with thanos after what happened in infinity war.
Tony and steve should be glad. Tony died and Steve retired before they could become worse
Disney turned the hulk into a sissy
No, they gave Banner Hulk’s body.
This video deserves way more views than the current number. The editing is great.
"Is this like a personal atta-"~Famous Last Words
The quality of these characters are still in some the cartoons, but the later mcu films just ruin them
I wouldn’t recommend the current comics, but I agree that the characters in some comics (especially those published in the 90’s) are really well written and established.
this was surprisingly hilarious
The “boom, bam bam, bop” killed me 😭😭
They really did Loki dirty
Watch loki, he got hit tva weaponry and skills dampened with the brace
@@alexha7293 but Sylvie can use magic so it's just them softening loki
Honestly I think Loki was the least effected. I understand people’s hate for the Loki show but the character development sorta makes sense 🤷 Though it was way too fast and he definitely should still be more sinister like he was in S2. Can’t say the same for Thor, oh boy 😂 he reversed his character arc from the first movie. I feel like most of the other characters they had done dirty; I have a hard time watching ANY of the new movies (except for Guardians of the Galaxy 3 ❤) and it’s really unfortunate..
I agree with you @@Droidekka I just wish he remained a bit more sinister and didn't just give everything up to become a savior. That's not Loki. The new movies and shows just create opening for loved characters to exit through and never return so that new (awful) characters can have their moment and shine. It's not gonna work though unforutnately. I love soft Loki but Sylvie is very annoying as a character and she's not gonna sit well as the "new loki" which is what Marvel heads are trying to do.
Oh yes. Women beating up and humiliated a God. 🙄
What happened to the old MCU?
“Let the past die, kill it if you have to” Unfortunately this is what happens when Disney take over a franchise, with no real interest in crafting good stories. Money making is always the priority with them. Hopefully now they’re starting to stumble in the box office, they’ll be forced to take time and care when writing their movies / tv shows.
Disney.
It’s still here, just watch it to be entertained
*How Whould The Plot of MCU Go If:* 1) Johann Schmidt found Tesseract Decade Earlier (3rd March.1932) 2) Howard Stark and Abraham Erskine worked for HYDRA 3) "Project Rebirth" Finished Decade Earlier (22nd June.1932)
Worst things MCU has done to its characters/worst new heroes: 1) Making Thor love and thunder so incredibly silly and joke filled that none of them are at all concerned about the kids literally held captive in a dark world, Thor is so lighthearted and unburdened you'd think he was pre Thor 1 film where he was the prince of Asgard and just spent his days having fun and fighting battles, having some of the most traumatic shit in the universe made fun of, like Hela who literally is responsible for slaughtering the soldiers of Asgard and driving them into caves for safety, or Infinity stone ice cream, as if this isn't the equivalent of making a hitler themed ice cream store. 2) She hulk, instead of the comics great character, we get a vapid, arrogant, entitled, selfish lawyer who mocks the avengers despite them literally saving the universe and earth several times including from Thanos who was about to shred the universe and end everyone on earth, refuses to take cases unless they pay tons, is such a bad lawyer she doesn't even ask for basic details from her client about what happened, catfishes people, fakes being a avenger so she can get free clothes, does not do any heroics at all and only saves the court jury from Titania upon heavy prodding from her friend, and belittles her cousin despite his many many traumas and hard life and fact he literally willed half of all humanity back in existence, and to top it all off she then uses cheat code to get a incredibly unfair happy ending despite learning nothing, doing nothing heroic or some sacrifice. 3) Making Sam Wilson kick the dog while it's down by selling the shield to the US after accepting it from Steve who wanted him to have it and be his replacement, then get mad when they make their own replacement, then sympathise with the terrorists so much he genuinely can't understand why John would be mad at Karli for murdering his best friend in cold blood and tells the government not to call them terrorists despite them blowing buildings up, destroying property, stealing, burning innocent people alive, planning to murder a entire convoy of senators just to make a statement And this is after she threatens his sister and her family by saying she might pay a visit and kill them. 4) Wanda post endgame, they really double down on going "Oh no, she's not a bad person, she's done nothing wrong". Mmm, holding a town hostage under mind control knowingly does not say good person. 5) Cassie becoming such a unlikeable generic super scientist that she belittles her dad as if he hasn't literally spent 5 years in quantum realm stuck and then had to undo the Snap and fight Thanos. 6) Riri Williams and Wakanda Forever, she's so smart she can somehow make a vibranium detector with no vibranium, rips off Tony Stark but isn't even a fan of him in MCU, can't get a job but can build a super garage full of shit, she has zero hesitation in shooting cops in the face with beams or blowing them all up on the bridge, like she's got a body count before the film is halfway done, she gets off scot free for these actions and has zero remorse. Meanwhile Namor literally genocides Wakanda, murders the queen and plans to wipe it out, yet apparently Shuri is ok with just allying with him against the world after that, also T'Challa's goal to change and be better and help others is thrown out the window as the Queen just shuts it all down, they refuse to share any vibranium, and are so arrogant and nonsensical in this that they really all accept teaming up with the nation that attacked them, killed their beloved queen and murdered countless people.
This was the exact reason why sir Stan Lee came between movie scenes and at the shooting set
Worst part is, She Hulk never even got to be good. She is literally the opposite of everything she's supposed to be from the comics, which is nice, extroverted, witty, smart, good at her job, a lover of men, rational, and a team player (Avengers and Fantastic Four.) At least they kept her promiscuity, but it makes even less sense here considering how much she despises all men.
"Mighty Thor" sounds like such an insecure name. "Oh, no. I'm better than that MALE Thor, I'm MIGHTY Thor!" You can't expect me to take that seriously, they should have given her a different name.
Thanos didn’t even need to go through the trouble of the infinity saga…he should’ve just waited for Disney to do his job for him.
Idk if this is the Stockholm syndrome talking but I really can’t hate on mighty Thor mainly because Natalie Portman was a huge part of my childhood in Star Wars
Disney has chosen to spend millions to appease the most sensitive, ungrateful and ignorant of their fanbase, and they are paying the price, literally.
literally every scene with daredevil in she hulk. i get that they were trying to be comic accurate but changing a character doesnt work when they’re already an established character that has been there for years 🤦🏻♀️
I haven't seen Love and Thunder yet but I just wanna know, how did Jane get Thor's powers?
Might be deeper than this, but basically cancer made her worthy of mjolnir.
Because, at some point between Thor Dark World and Ragnarok, Thor asked Mjolnir to always protect Jane. Later Jane got cancer, so Mjolnir gived Jane powers, so she wouldn't feel sick and weak.
Jane was worthy of using Mjolnir, but she had cancer and died of it
Endgame Thor was good as a representation of Thor's depression and self loathing and it gave Chris Hemsworth a chance to do something different. The fatal mistake was taking 'comedy Thor' and removing any form of intensity, emotional nuance or badassery and fully making him a kiddy joke character.
It was all accurate until loki, bro literally can’t do anything about his situation
He could have easily stopped the time cop from slapping him and can defend himself from being kicked in the balls repeatedly…
Doctor Strange MOM is garbage but Wanda was bad af the whole movie. (Elizabeth Olsen is soo beautiful).
Neither of these statements are true except for the Elizabeth Olsen one
Is that a personal attack never fails to make me laugh
Bro i love ur channel 😭😭
Let's not forget how the Bastardize THE MANDARIN, IRON MAN'S ARCHNEMESIS not 1, not 2 BUT 3 TIMES & then made him a weekly episodic villain of another Guy
Just now I realise that Thanos was the actual hero trying to spare us from this
like the respect for the first thor movie with the clip
Stole all my words in my mind and made a video on it ❤
This was funny but I think only the recent thor movie and hulk was messed up. Not ironheart , not falcon, but endgame Thor. Just the recent RECENT stuff by Thor and hulk after the first avengers 8:12
In retrospective early thor was annoying . infinity war thor was peak thor.
Make a part 2 of this video
Evil Loki was so hawt.
8:00 gamora calling out she hulk on her 🐂🚽 will always be hilarious especially since she tried to 🍇 her in the comics
🤯 when you put it like that 😂
Nice
This could be an HOUR if you count characters destroyed compared to the comic versions.
The mcu made it really hard for me to keep hulk as my favourite hero.
Thanos was there to save us all from this movie getting longer. But the heroes destroyed the only chance to end this madness (and bad comedy), and now everyone pays a prize with this movie getting unstoppable. Thanos: "Idiots! I was trying to save us all! One year! In one year all of you will wish my Snap was not undone!" Thanos 2014: "Unruly wretches! I was trying to save us all! One year! In one year all of you will wish my grateful universe was accomplished!"
it's ok guys, everything after endgame isnt canon 👍
This is what I’m afraid they’ll do to the X-men
The MCU died with Iron Man. Endgame was the perfect way to cap it all off. Idk wtf it is now 😂
She hulk looks like slimer staring in the exorcist
To be fair to Loki, s2 made him a GOAT
bro if you have to watch through an entire season to get anything out of a TV series it failed
@@joedatius my guy that is literally not how TV series with an overarching plot are supposed to work. Every episode built up more info and context leading to the finale, like how any book, series, or movie is supposed to do it
I’ll never forgive Disney for ruining Taskmaster for being bland af. I hope the real Taskmaster shows up in Thunderbolts and replaces her lol
Part2?
This is cool video and I’m Marvel fan
I love this channel.😂😂😂😂
Thanks man!
Noooo I was the bad guy when I hated Disney for destroying Civil War. Look how they butchered such a magnificent story. It was the beginning of the end from there. Once disney knew they could get away with producing trash superhero films with Marvel label they went bat sh*t crazy
Hulk been through a lot and you’re just going to that to him
Old MCU is best with Endgame as the best MCU film (imo). New MCU is subpar
Thanks to the House of Mouse!
@@ZyliceLiddell Mickey Mouse got his hands all over the franchise in 2009, but it was protected by Stan Lee 2008-2019.
1:34 I was thinking the same thing
Petition for Thanos to come back after seeing this video?
Thor’s segment is so accurate to the emotional journey I went on with his character… and then we he was ruined. Awful, just awful 10:57 … 😂
remember growing up with the MCU? yeah,this is it now. Tragic isn't it?
Tbh tho Thor should have stayed in his Infinity War character arc
Guys we have a chance, Deadpool is coming into the MCU and now we have one last hope
The shows ruined it
Tony Stark became the fortunate one.
The marvel cinematic universe phase bore are amusement arcade and theme rides That features pantomime villains and heroes who delivers ridiculous punch lines Reject the marvel (m she u) cinematic comedians and clowns and embrace anime
What the c*ap is IronHeart ??
Why the hell MCU think that insulting old good characters is the best way of gaining love and respect for new characters. And like they dont even have personality at all. Just some group of arrogant and toxic Mary Sue and self-inserts. Hope Thanos will come back and finish this mess.
Meanwhile the males are just as engaging and strong as before, while the females have flaws and weaknesses they overcome, just like the guys
Wtf loki is doing here
Nick fury almost got away with it
I had no problem with Fat Thor and Smart Hulk, since I kinda felt they fit with the comics despite not having read it all that much, but when it came to the New "Avengers" like Iron Heart and the Hawkeye fangirl, I felt they were closer to self inserts than anything, and She-Hulk was one of my most awaited arrivals ever since my teen hormones started to bloom, and am just disappointed how butchered the character became
Bro them trying to hype up Ironheart as Iron Man's replacement better be a one movie thing only She wasn't that enjoyable on screen at all, didn't no-one like her in the comics? Controversial opinion probably but they never should've made BP2 after Chadwick passed away, he had a great legacy with CACW, IW and BP (if I missed a movie lmk)
They didn't "ruin" anything, it's called "character development". But you who only want the same identical characters stereotyped over and over again can't understand that.
Don't act like that "I... am... Ironman..." line wasn't cringe af
i’m gonna make my own Marvel. whos in
Do you know what is amazing to me about the whole, "You have to stop calling them terrorists line"? Isn't that group trying to do what Thanos did? As in, eliminate half the living population. The same Thanos that the Avengers spent multiple films trying to stop....because it was wrong. I mean, I'm guessing there is maybe slightly more nuance to it, but I don't know because I tried watching and stopped after the second or third episode because I just wasn't interested.
They’ve destroyed everything iv loved