IS THE 5800X FINALLY WORTH IT?! | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Review
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great information brother! appreciate your time. bought a pre-built pc about a year ago- and have been thinking it’s about time to upgrading and didn’t know exactly where to start. this looks like a perfect fit for me! thank you!
You're welcome, man, hope the upgrade goes well!
Micro center has the 5800x for 299 right now people.
Is that a good deal ?
Yes.
i was there a week ago and saw that but wasnt planning a new build at the time. I ended up finding a gpu at retail and the sale was over and just bought one off ebay for 315. Hopefully its real. I already have a 5600x build and with the 5800x at a good price i think its worth it.
Bought one for 299 euro during BF sale... was worth it!
I just picked it up today for $350, which is $20 cheaper than they had it posted for online
I've recently overclocked my 5800 x to 4.9Ghz one core boost and 4.6 GHz all core. I did this by enabling PBO2 in the BIOS forcing stock boost behavior but reducing the voltages slightly to also reduce heat and power draw. I then increased the offset by 50 megahertz. So ultimately I'm using slightly less power than stock and I've increased the boost clocks. One of the coolest overclocks I think I've ever achieved.
Damn, that's an impressive OC for sure, gonna give that a shot myself. Hopefully you don't just have a golden chip 😂
@@TheTechTank Could you do an update when you try it?
@@TheTechTank I don't really think I do as long as bad temperatures aren't a thing most 5800Xs can achieve 4.85 GHz on their own. I only have a 240 mm water cooler so it's not even that extreme of a cooling solution. I bet you I can hit 5 GHz with some more tuning?
Same as mine, what was the voltage offset you used? im running 15 stable, but i could get 18 with some oddities. my chip hits 4.95 , and 4.6-4.55ghz all core. I'm getting an AIO to see if i cant get it's all core higher than it is currently on air cooling. have you noticed any instabilities with SAM and undervolt/overclocking in PBO?
@@djmccullough9233 I think I'm running 8 or something I didn't want to sacrifice stability too much I just wanted to be better than stock lol so no I haven't achieved any instability because it's just a modest overclock / undervolt
Does it still run as hot as when it launched; did AMD adapt this or not? As he advises against - kzhead.info/sun/ap1vZZ2unIuphoU/bejne.html
It runs as hot as stated in the review. It does get toasty, but not much more than most chips in this performance bracket that I've worked with. If AMD were to "adapt" it, they would need to lower performance via a BIOS update and most people wouldn't like that, or lower the voltage (which is mostly up to the motherboard you're using and not the CPU, and not all chips run well with lower voltages).
@@TheTechTank I hear you. TY for the reply and reviews.
I love my 5800x with the RX6800 XT and 64GB ram 4000mhz for music production and graphic artworkd and of cause gaming... Wonderful cpu ;)
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Ahah, my plan woked then!
I completed my new build 3 weeks ago with the 5600x on a MSI x570s Tomahawk along with a Seasonic 850 Platinum psu knowing an upgrade would be in the future. I didn't realize the upgrade would be so quick, the 5800x will be in my mailbox in 3 days. I couldn't resist the 340.00 price tag.
Just bought a bunch of parts and watching vids to feel good about my decision this helped thanks
Lol, sweet sweet validation.
Yo man good video, very professional, clear and concise, I'm surprised u don't have more subs, either way good shit, I recently started getting into PC gaming, I haven't bought anything yet, but I've been researching PC parts and trying to learn all I need to know to make an informed purchase, which understanding what all the parts do is pretty easy, but once I dive in and try to understand the science & manufacturing of it all.....it's fucking crazy, it's like going back to school lol, but right now I'm just trying to find what websites have the best deals for PC parts, because I've never bought a PC idk what the "normal prices" are for anything, I just don't want to get ripped off or spend too much on a part that is valued at half the price I'm buying it at u know?
Thanks so much, dude, really appreciate it. We've all been there, man, it gets overwhelming very quickly. Unless you're super interested in the underlying science and all of that, then you really don't have to dig that deep, lol. Just the basics will get you all the way there. As for where to buy, and how much you should be paying, it largely depends on the country you're in. For instance, here in South Africa because of certain taxes and companies taking their cut throughout the chain, we get completely screwed over when it comes to the cost of electronics.
@@TheTechTank oh dn sorry to hear that, but yea I live in the U.S idk if u would know where to buy from in the states, but if u could recommend any good sites or any community threads that talk about PC part sales/deals that would be great, also when buying PC parts, is there anywhere that tells me what kind of performance it will Garner? Like how many pixels & fps I will get? Or is the only way to get that information, is watching KZheadrs like u, who have tested it on multiple games?
Honestly, both Amazon and Newegg seem to consistently list parts for the price they "should be selling for". Sometimes prices do go wild with super popular parts, or during shortages like we're seeing right now. GPU prices are still insane pretty much everywhere for instance. I think the Honey browser extension actually has a feature that lets you see the price changes of specific products over time, so you can see what the lowest price for them "should be". PCPartPicker has a more robust version of that: pcpartpicker.com/trends/ Other than that, you might want to keep an eye on the LTT forums. Not sure if they list deals on there or not, but it's probably the best tech forum out there. There are websites like that that will give you a performance estimate based on certain parts and the games you want to play, but I'm not sure how reliable they are. This one seems like one of the better ones: howmanyfps.com/
@@TheTechTank thanks so much man u went above and beyond with your comment, much appreciated man, have a great day, and I hope your channel grows fast, u deserve it
Loving the retrospective take. Noting anchor price is also a good in highlighting how price makes a good product bad.
loved the video thank you! Direct and to the point :) made me feel better about buying one today also lol
Much appreciated! Lol, you should feel great after buying it, depending on the price of course.
Now that Intel Alder Lake is out, 5800x still makes sense for people who already have an AM4 motherboard which supports it. You can go from a Ryzen 2000 or 3000 series CPU to the 5800x on a B450 board, and be set for the next several years.
It makes sense even to buy into the am4 platform now, for cheap. Alder lake boards are crazy expensive, not to mention the ddr5 dilemma
Preach.
This is me. 100%. The bottleneck on the 2600x + 6800xt is real. Just purchased this for my birthday to put in my B450M steel legend. Until I upgrade to a x570, and give the b450M, and 2600x to my wife. I think the price point was right. And am excited to see the difference.
I have a B450 Mobo currently, planning to get a 5800x . Is it compatible ? no problems whatssoever? Thanks!
@@listorm28 just installed the cpu last night. Be ready to upgrade bios. Super easy process. But yes. Haven't had any issues yet. The thermals are a bit more toasty than a b550 or x570. But it works, and SAM is active paired with a 6800xt
just bought this chip. playing vanguard on ultra and the processor reaches a high of 35% lots of headroom to spare. Very happy with the purchase.
Nice video, Im entering an upgrade cycle as my system is 5 years old now and was looking at a 5800x along with a 3060 card, gaming rig. Thanks once again for your input.
That's going to be a huge upgrade then, you're going to love it!
No bottleneck?
@@andrewhellmann1434 Why would there be a bottleneck?
@@TheTechTank would you recommend the r5 5600x and 3060 for gaming/ and multitasking purposes? Like gaming while having spotify discord etc open?
@@andrewhellmann1434 Of course, that's what those parts are built for 👍
Great first video I've seen of your channel. Subbed! I picked this chip up for 199 on Black Friday @ Microcenter. For that price point it was an easy pick even thou there is so many options to pick from these days.
Appreciate that, man! That's a great deal right there - the chip is going to treat you super well for years to come.
Good content. Hope you get a lot more subs and keep making great content! I've been building PC's for 25 years, but, the last one I built was like over a decade ago. My last pc was actually a laptop that lasted me 7 years (Gigabyte P34Gv2 with i7-4710hq, Nvidia 860m 4gb, 16gb 1600 ram, 256gb SSD). Laptop was a beast! Had to take battery out after a couple years (but I used it as a desktop anyways). The desktop I just built has the 5800x, 32gb 3200 ram, 1tb Gen 4nvme, 1030 2gb (I skimped on the graphics card for now due to pricing. I figured paying $75 over msrp for a lower end card, was better than paying $400 over msrp for a high end card. It is about equal to the 860m I had so it works just fine for me for now). I rarely game anymore, but sometimes I'll open up some cs go, fortnight, cod, or the newer diablo. All work smooth. For video editing, I for sure notice the difference in rendering times; a 1 hour render, now takes like 15 minutes.
Really appreciate that, man! I've actually never owned a notebook with even half the power of your old one 😂 it's the next big upgrade I want to do. Definitely a smart move going with the 1030 until prices come down - I would've done the same. I'd never be able to justify paying the current hyper-inflated prices. At least the rest of your system will be set for many years to come, so when prices do come down you'll be good to go! And yeah the 5800X is a beast for rendering coming from my old 1700.
Great review. Been torn between this chip and the 5600x. Nice to finally see the price coming down. Liked and subbed.
Thanks man! The CPU market is in the process of changing quite a bit in favor of the consumer, so try to hold off on that upgrade for as long as possible, lol.
Was in the same boat then Amazon dropped the price for the 5800x at $341, the drop I needed to pull the trigger.
Great video. Easy to subscribe after watching it.
Appreciate that, man!
Just got one of these for $300 for my brother's PC, so excited to see how it performs this Christmas
I think it’s fair that the 5800x can serve as just a little more future-proofing to stretch out your upgrade timeline.
Sure, but futureproofing isn't a sure thing since we can't predict the future. The 5800X will probably still be relevant even five years from now, but so could the 5600X etc. so buying for the sake of futureproofing isn't always the best idea. If that makes sense.
@The Tech Tank is this worth out it now?
"If biology taught me anything, 9 months can change a lot." -Tank
I already regret that quote 😂
@@TheTechTank I loved it😂😂
@@philxdev More the consuming part, but also true 😂
Thank you for this follow up video. This helped me make my decision between a 5600x and 5800x. I went with a 5800x because the price went down a ton. the 5600x was going for $300 and the 5800x went down to $341 on amazon and walmart. An extra $40 just seemed like a no brainer for a better cpu. If it was an extra $100 to $150 then that would be too much
I bought mine yesterday upgraded from a 2700x it is beautifully superior even at 1440p
That's definitely a no-brainer. Four more threads for 40 bucks? Totally worth it.
$315 on ebay rn
Just picked up a 5800x at microcenter for 299 🤯
@@dsjhonrawlins9313 Worth it man this CPU is a beast
I just bought one that was damaged from eBay. It must have been a younger person or a kid. He stated that it had bent and broken pins. I've felt with that before and had pretty good luck fixing pins so I gave it a chance. I looked at the pictures he sent that were magnified the best he could. I saw a few barely bent pins and no missing ones. I could tell no one had tried to work on it. The chip was pretty much perfect when I got it. I threw it under my magnification and found 3 pins barely bent. It took less than 5 mins to fix it. Works perfect. I don't understand why he didn't try to fix it. I offered it back to him at the same price but he already got a new CPU. I felt kinda bad I bought that chip for 70 dollars and if he would have just taken it to any repair shop they probably would have fixed it for free. He couldn't believe you could fix pins that were bent flat if your careful and replacing a pin is just practice. Get a old CPU and start practicing. You'll save a lot of money if you learn how to work on your own stuff. I've fixed several gpus also that just needed small things but practice soldering before you ever try.
Great Vid, thanks! I'm happy with my R7-5800x, I went from a R5-2600x so I can see a great improvement in my gaming experience, Star Citizen just needs a good CPU.
Star Citizen looks amazing, but the learning curve looks a little too steep for me 😂
I just bought one of these upgrading from a ryzen 5 3600. This will be my 4th amd chip and I'm super impressed by them all so far.
I upgraded from Ryzen 3 3600 to the Ryzen 7 5800X this year before the fall season during the prices drops. I picked it up when it was about $340 on Amazon. The stability gained from was noticable once I h fine tuned the OC and RAM. Really grateful for the upgrade. Wishing I told say the same for GPU right now.
You shouldn't have gained any " stability" unless your 3600 was flaky, in which case you RMA. One doesn't upgrade to get "stability".
@user-sq2xh7js5x I know I'm late but maybe he meant it as an increase to fps in games, as someone might see that as more stability since they get higher frames
Damn, just bought mine for 193 Euros on Amazon, i guess waiting really does pay off.
Its $174 right now on amazon lol.
love mine thanks for the help deciding, got it running at 5.0ghz single 4.7 multi core all day long in and out of game through an undervollt and pbo boost. it also manages to beat the 10900k r23 multi score you list in your video. best of all I caught it on sale for about $220 😁
That's awesome, man! Glad to hear you're loving the upgrade!
Whoa... Antec psu, forgot about them New viewer here Love what I'm seeing on your channel so far
Lol, Antec's still kicking around everywhere here in South Africa. And thanks, I really appreciate the kind words!
Just nabbed a 5800x for $250 today! Was tempted to wait for Ryzen 7000 & Raptor Lake to see what's what, but I recently got my hands on a 3090 that is pretty bottlenecked by my current 6700k. Considering gaming is my main use of my PC, I think I'll be fine with this guy for a few years at the least.
Nice! Yip, don't think you'll feel the need to upgrade again any time too soon.
would you say getting one for $200 rn is a good deal?
5600x is way better :D its cheap for100€, and this future invest its just a placebo :D i also have 5800x anyway. Now I see i made mistake. If i know about that i have 3070 instead of 6700xt
Thinking of upgrading to this from a 2600, I have a 5500xt so I'm not cpu bottlenecked in most games, (some, I am though.) but it really crumbles when I try to do heavy multitasking like recording at the same time or running multiple games at once (FFXIV & Bluestacks as an example) I have the budget for it over the 5600x and I assume the extra two cores will help with what I want to do
If you're struggling with multitasking, then the 5800X is definitely going to make a much bigger difference than the 5600X. With the SMT, it's more like four extra cores and that's going to help a lot.
Very awesome review. I just bought one cuz of this review because i wasnt sure about a good processor. Now hopefully Rust can run better than a dust filled vacuum cleaner.
Thanks, man! I'm sure it'll treat you very well in Rust.
@@TheTechTank Np! It has treated me VERY well in Rust! :D
Great cpu. I havent even touched oc and it stays on gaming load around 4.3 with the icue h150i 240m rad around 50-55°C (at load) awesome cpu. Now if i can get my hands on a 3080
Get a 6800xt so you can get that extra 15% power with SAM.
I got a 3060 paired with 3600x cpu and I just got the 5800x can I still use the stealth cooler ? What aio do you recommend my pc case is the asus gt501
I think the Wraith Stealth will struggle to keep the 5800X cool, but you can use it first to see what temps are like before deciding if you want to get a new cooler. I'd recommend a mid to high-end air cooler like the Scythe Fuma 2, or a 240mm+ AIO cooler like Cooler Master's MasterLiquid ML240.
@@TheTechTankany Corsair aio 360mm ?
@@BeastyBx184 Corsair's AIOs are perfect too, as long as it has a radiator of 240mm or more.
The 5800x was always the most desirable CPU at the least desirable value in the 5000 series lineup. It os understandable why it was priced high, the full unlocked/functional single CCX was precious to AMD in early in ZEN3 production. These fully finctional CCXs could make them alot more revenue in EPYC chips.
Will this CPU be good with some budget range for using Unreal engine 5 whats your opinion? Im building new pc...
I'm thinking of buying this CPU right now, this video comes in handy. But one thing I'm considering is emulation, which is consistently ignored by ALL hardware reviewers. You could argue it's included in the "gaming" category, but it has its own specifics. Emulators require different balances of CPU/GPU performance, so seeing some related benchmarks would be really helpful.
Noted. I'll look into whether there are any reliable benchmarks out there for emulation, or at least something similar. I don't recall seeing any from the reviewers I watch either. Kind of weird.
@@TheTechTank It would be like a standard gaming benchmark, you should just test the most popular/demanded games, which are usually the most demanding ones (i.e. Mario Odyssey for Yuzu, Zelda BOTW for Cemu, Uncharted 3/TLOU for RPCS3, Red Dead Redemption for Xenia). I have to confirm it, but I think at least some of these emulators allow you to uncap the FPS, otherwise you will be stuck with the usual 30/60 FPS cap. While this might make games go out of sync and run faster than normal, it's extremely useful for benchmark comparisons.
@@sovo1212 That method along with all of the required prep to properly benhcmark is probably why most reviewers don't do it. It's a ton of effort for something only a small percentage of people will actually care about.
I have the Ryzen 7 5800X, naturally the turbo boost gives 4.85 Ghz and overclocking with Ryzen Master gives 4.95 Ghz. I was proving it with a Mobo Gigabyte B450M Gaming with 14646 point max. as result in Cinebench R23, even with a liquid cooler. Then I buy it a Mobo MSI Mortar B550 Wifi and the result in Cinebench was 15389 points (less to 900 ponits of difference for reach a Threadripper 1950X). In my experience, for best results we need a good cooler system, the thermal paste and motherboard.This three things define a great optimization of processor.
I have been struggling with my PC build for literal months, having never built a PC before, this first build was/is truly meant to last me years as I’d been jumping from one mid-end gaming laptop to another, it made sense to just make a space and build a proper powerhouse Desktop. I was having issues playing on a 5800x, MSI RTX 3080, 64gb (4x8gb) 3600 ram PC, and at some point the heating issue with this CPU got so bad I could barely play low end games on medium settings without struggling. I was distraught and bought more fans to max out the case and reoriented my AIO. Finally having something seemingly normal on FPS for the same settings felt good, but it made no sense, thought I had gotten the worst luck in the silicon lottery. As it turns out undervolting just saved me so much money and grief as I had been looking at just upgrading to a 5900 or 5950, whatever I could find eventually, to hopefully fix the issue and just max everything as much as possible. My temps are finally reasonable and my system is running buttery smooth as Ryzen and Nvidia intended with max settings on all games I have stored in the ol’ steam library. My fix was recent, however I quickly came to this same conclusion of “is it actually good?” once seeing how the CPU performed normally and further researching why it ran as hot as it did. I have to say I agree fully in saying that if people are looking for high end performance at a lighter budget then this CPU really does have a good spirit, but its body wasn’t optimized for that, hence the 5900 being the most in demand CPU because it has more SA for heat dissipation. Regardless, 5800 + a simple undervolt and a decent cooler = one hell of a gaming CPU good for people who like to dabble outside of gaming
Really happy you managed to find a fix that worked for you, I've heard others also getting some really good results from undervolting the chip. What AIO are you using? A decent one should be more than enough to keep the 5800X in check... If the cooler's fine, it could've been that your motherboard had MCE on and pushed the chip much higher than it's supposed to go.
This is very important to know since I'm trying to get this chip and I know almost nothing about chips thanks for telling your experience.
what computer case did you use? or what specs do i need to fit all the components in?
I used MSI's Sekira 500X in this video with all panels removed for unhindered airflow. You don't need a case like that at all. All you need is a case that can fit ATX motherboards, and if you're getting an AIO liquid cooler, you need to make sure the case supports the correct radiator size.
I'm stuck on what to help build a friend, do I recommend the 11700k? I know I can run it properly no issues - with Ryzen I've been reading that sometimes you have to mess with the bios to get things running a bit cooler! Even though it has lower power draw apparently it spikes in temps. Price not being an issue do I go with the 5800x?
As long as a decent cooler is included in the cost, I'd go for the 5800X. I'm using a 360mm Radiator so I don't need to change anything in BIOS to keep temps under control. The 11700K also runs hot, and in my case with the chips I tested, it ran hotter than the 5800X overall. Basically, if you have a good cooler, then you can't go wrong either way.
heats a issue with intel as well the heat issue with amd is out the box plug and play voltage is on auto.. which ups the voltage to high on all amd mother boards no one building a system should not never go in the bios and set ur setting up and adjust features when building u should always do this so people complaing they have to adjust to get temps down. out the box with setting the cpu up right temps are way lower than intel i had to put my 10900k on a 360mm cooling system just for slight over clocking the ryzen 5800x on 240mm with temps around 64 under full stress and load with volts 1.22v and overlcocked to 4.8 all core these things are hands on and opions of differnt people have to always be considered whos providing the information if they actually know what they are doing
I just grabbed a 5800x for a damn good price. It was only 45 more than the 5600x and like 140 less than the 5900x. I’ve been messing around with it for the last week and I love it.
i love the shots of the hardware "out in the wild"
😂 The wilds of my backyard, lol. Glad those DANGEROUS shots are being appreciated.
Using for almost 8 months. I bought my for £389 and now you can get it £40 cheaper in UK. It’s great cpu, got no regrets and I’m cooling my with Deepcool Gammax 400 and it stays in low to mid 70s while gaming and that’s in NZXT H510 case.
Very good and gpu temp while you are in gaming perfomange ?
got mine a few weeks ago for £273 had to upgrade From ryzen 7 2700 at that price!
@@jamestierney5568 that’s a great price and decent cpu. I couldn’t wait with my upgrade. I was using 3500X 6 cores 6 thread cpu. It was doing ok but was reaching 100% usage when multitasking, never while gaming. Smoothness after upgrade to 5800x was more than noticeable.
@@Ornal64 temperature was a major concern though as it was running very hot. Airflow in case isn't great and only have a wraith prism cooler. Had to use curve optimizer to get temps down and get it running well.
@@jamestierney5568 set up a power profile in windows or bios. You definitely need better cooler.
Ryzen 7 5800X.. 40% lesser in price while 30% more Gaming Performance comparing with Intel 11th Generation i7 11700F. Superb.. It was a Good decision to be part of Ryzen Family 🙂
I recently went for the 5900x and it’s a beast, with a minor overclock I’m doing 4.8ghz most cores with a few cores trying to hit almost 4.9ghz. All at no more then 45-48c under load, and 24-26 idle.
Damn, those temps are insane. Would love to get my hands on a 5900X too one of these days.
great review, i just subbed.
Appreciate it!
Running the ryzen 3600 on a rtx 3090 wondering should i get the ryzen 9 5900? I'm on a msi x570 pro motherboard. I'm not a pc tech use it for gaming mainly.
Building a rig for my guitarist at the moment. He wants to do music production and some gaming. He's new to pc at this level (only ever had crappy hand me down laptops etc) so picking up this cpu at $175 from Amazon paired with 32gb RAM and the 6650xt is going to do him justice.
Nice, that's going to be an amazing starter rig!
Been using the 5800x for six months now. No problem for me. Heat was the problem before, but i just undervolt it problem solve. Performance wise its pretty damn good. My MOBO is a rog hero 8 no wifi. And just get a good AIO.
is it compatible with an Aorus X570?
@@CoolJoshido212 obviously yes
Seems strange that heat would be a problem with such a low power draw.
@@mayssm that was before the undervolt of the cpu.
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thanks for the video, I pulled the trigger on the 5800X today as the current price at Wootware only made it R800 more than the 5600x. no brainer.
Nice, a no-brainer for sure! Woot has some really amazing prices on the Ryzen range.
Waited two years and got mine for $200. Love this CPU and didn't want want to upgrade to the AM4 series yet because i didnt need to.
Great pairing for a 7800XT, loving mine. A bit toasty though.
I've been using a 5800X since early January 2022 on my current gaming build(ASUS ROG STRIX B550, RTX 3070, 64GB DDR4). No complaints at all, but I don't really stress it all that much as I mostly play heavily modded Fallout 4 and Skyrim on max settings and a bit of World of Warships now and then.
Bro I already bought a 5800x MSI 3060 ti with Asus rog strix B550-F I haven’t build it yet but I saw some people says it is has heat problems I want to ask u as user is it true? Plus I don’t know what liquid cooler to buy Any advice?
Just for gaming (wanna build a complete new system..), do you think the 5600x or the 5800x is better? Is it better to safe the 100€, is it worth it for the next like 2 years of gaming? or spend this more for 2 more cores.. don't know exactly.. (wanna use a 3080 or 6800xt as card)
Honestly? If you can wait a month or two to build that system, you should. Intel's new chips are monsters, and even if you don't want to go Intel, new Ryzen is expected early next year, and in the meantime I'm expecting the 5800 and 5600X to get some really nice price drops soon.
Will the Ryzen 7 5800x paired up with a Geforce Rtx 3060 and 32gb Ram (3200mhz) be good for streaming and gaming and recording/editing simultaneously? Or would I need a ryzen 9 5900x? I'm new to PC and this is what I was planning to go with if you could give me some advice please.
If you can afford the 5900X, that'd be ideal, but if not the 5800X should be more than enough. I use my 5800X for gaming and editing and I haven't run into any issues.
@@TheTechTank understood thank you for the advice
Would you recommend this for someone who wants to stream on twitch while also playing game at great quality? I’m new to this so don’t know much about PCs and their components just wanna have something that’s gonna run my game and my stream smoothly no problems
If you can save up a little longer to buy a 5900X, that would serve you much better, but if not, the 5800X should still be more than enough for that.
if you want to stream, but not break the budget the 5800x its a perfect choice, altho the new intel 12th gen might be better ?
@@Frey_64 We'll find out on the 4th 😘 though I'm sure the early adoptor tax is going to be pretty high.
@@TheTechTank that's exactly what I thought, it's not always a good idea to buy at release. So I just pulled the trigger on the 5800x, will arrive mid December, I'm super hyped finally upgrading my FX8350 hehe
My buddy has a 5600x and streams while playing games. Has no issues at all so the 5800x would still be an excellent choice and probably run that much smoother due to the extra cores and threads
building my first pc and this helped a lot. Im not big on PC knowledge, but a video like this really helped me out! thank you
Oh awesome, really happy to hear that! And congrats on your first build!
I have a 5800x and 6800xt merc 319 and I constantly get stutters in pretty much all games have you experience anything with yours or know anything that might be causing it I'm out of ideas 😅 I have tride all sort
Could be literally anything, tbh. The first step would be to see if it's a hardware or software issue. If you can, try a fresh install of Windows before you do anything else.
I am also planning to get a 5800x. But I am confused with all the thermal issues, High temps that reviewers mentioned. Is it really a issue? And can you please recommend me a good AIO cooler for the 5800x? Thanks.😊
I'm not having any thermal issues with the chip. The only time I ever ran into higher than normal temps was when I overclocked too high. A 280mm AIO from a reputable brand, or high-end air cooler will handle it just fine.
Thank you again.❤
AMD says that operating temps of 90 C are perfectly normal for this chip. Tho it's easy to undervolt a bit in the BIOS with curve optimizer and reduce temps by around 10 C.
So.e of the first chips for sure we're boosting well over 4.7 closer to 5!! And I'm pretty sure that's why the thermal issues were an "issue" I'll be using a vetroo v5 air cooler in white with a push pull config. I doubt I'll see more than 75 degrees under gaming load from the research I've done
I had to buy a new cooler and a new case. My new cooler is the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE which is just 39 bucks. Sadly my old case didn't have enough airflow so I had to upgrade that to a Corsair 4000D. The chip really is a hot 'n spicy one, but with the current setup (No need for eco mode, underclocking or undervolting as the chip itself is designed to run hotter than other chips) I get it to around 50-60°C at medium (everyday) and 70-80°C at heavy usage. Just have a good cooler, good airflow and a good thermal paste.
I’m going to build my own PC. I’m going with the 5800x and b450 motherboard. I’m just worried that other parts might not support it? What other parts need to be in to support it well enough or is it just motherboard?
Yip, pretty much just the motherboard. You'll want reasonably fast RAM to go with the chip (3200MHz and up), a decent cooler, and a good graphics card to get the most out of it, but you shouldn't be worried about parts not "supporting" it.
Went from 3700x to 5800x. I feel like this CPU will serve well for about 5 years... But... I will upgrade before that for sure ahaha!!! I have a dual tower air cooler installed, and the temp tops at 72c-73c at 100% load. My computer case is opened. I have no case-fans running, so, it's very very quiet, unless I load the CPU. The double-CPU-cooler-fans are idling at very low speed, unless I render a video in DaVinci Resolve. Even though the side panel is opened, the case is positioned near a wall (3 inches away) so the inside of the computer is still protected from accidents. Heat dissipates upward by convection. Very silent and efficient.
Had a 5800x for about 6 months the loved it. My first Ryzen cpu. Tho recently upgraded to the 5950x
The 5950X is a BEAST, big congrats!
@Bry Zeer I care more about the gains I made in Fusion and rendering videos. Some of us do other things than just game.
@Bry Zeer You can thank scalpers for that one buddy. If I had the choice I would have had a Ryzen 9 from the start.
Picked up a 5800x new on Amazon, next day shipping for $298 - Beast for gaming, like a 5600x BUT it can also handle OBS recording & Adobe editing
Oct 2022. Picked up the 5800X for US$269 + a free game. Lots of life in my AM4 board yet.
Umm please give me more cat b roll😍 great video my guy!
Appreciate it, man! I've been adding more and more of it into each video 😂 the "actors" just make it a little difficult, lol.
I love it, little kitty meow meow🥺
@@TheTechTank 🤣🤣I feel that! My dogs have a strong sense of awareness when I bust the camera out
My dogs and one of the cats love joining me for outdoor b-roll, but catching them in just the right spots requires WAY too much luck, lol
WAIT SOUTH AFRICAN !! the first video that's pops up when i search ryzen 7 5800x IS CRAZY TO ME you must be something correct really enjoyed the vid and will be subbing would love to support you thank you for uploading
Lol, thanks man, always happy to have another South African onboard!
Im building a mid/high tier allrounder/(mostly) gaming pc with an rtx 3070 and Im deciding between the 5600x and the 5800x. At the moment the price difference dropped to 80$. Is the performance uplift worth those 80 bucks? At what price point is that decision a no brainer? Thanks for the advice!
For purely gaming right now the performance uplift from the 5800X over the 5600X isn't worth more than maybe $50 or so, IMO. You should only get the 5800X if you'll be using your system for other, more CPU-demanding applications too, or maybe if you want to "futureproof" your system for a bit longer (and even then the 5600X won't start to feel slow for many years to come).
@@TheTechTank Thanks so much for your answer. Keep up the good videos!
2 years later and still using my 5800x at 4.835 ghz :).
Scored one for 200$ at Microcenter a month ago, runs a little hot so get a good AIO! There are some bios settings you can tweak to under volt it to keep it cooler as well as improve performance. Customize your fan profiles as well to keep the noise down but go more aggressive on the CPU fans.
Hey i want to pick on of these up and Need to decide on a motherboard first got any suggestions? Kinda new to all this building stufd
@@ghoulxpertking8357 b550
unsure why but mine runs very cool stock with an aio but not even mid range... maybe a blessed chip? very happy though
I got the 5800x at launch and dont regret it, I upgraded from the 3700x due to playing VR on the HTC vive pro and the difference is huge. Was not sure the 5600x would do what I wanted but knew the 5800x would and did not go the 5900x because the word was it was a bit slower due to using 2 chiplets instead of one.
What MOBO would you pair this CPU with recently got my hands on one for 329.99? Going for a price to performance build.
I'd go for the X570 Tuf Gaming or the MSI X570 Tomahawk, but you should be able to go even cheaper and still get about the same performance.
I run. A ASRock b550m steel legend . It looks great and a Matx . And even without bios flashback. You can still install the chip and get to the bios . Just need to stick in a USB drive with the new bios install on it when the computer is built and boom. The b550m steel legend is right around $109 usd
Just bought one on amazon for $270. Upgrading from an i7 9700f (ik that cpu isn't bad but it's more practical in the long run to buy a new cpu and motherboard than to replace my current motherboard with a better one which is what I wanted to do in the first place)
Congrats on the upgrade. Definitely a better idea to upgrade the board and chip in one go.
do you still recommend getting the 5600x with black friday deals currently ? or should i grab the 5800x ??? thanks in advance if you are able to reply.
It depends on the pricing. If the 5600X is much less expensive than the 5800X and you'll only be gaming with it, then get the 5600X.
@@TheTechTank what about a single pc build for streaming? Is the 5800x a better choice
@@listorm28 Definitely. When it comes to streaming or video editing etc. you'll need all the CPU cores you can get.
@@TheTechTank Thank you! Because currently I still have a b450 Mobo so I'm still somewhat in the middle. Heard it requires undervolting it. Thoughts?
@@listorm28 B450 should be just fine for the 5800X without undervolting (depending on the model). Undervolting shouldn't be neccisary, but it will get you lower temperatures and lower power draw usually with no drawbacks.
Not sure if you’ll see this or not, but I just recently upgraded my gpu from a 580 to a 6600xt and I can barley get 60fps in dying light 2 I have a ryzen 5 2600x, 32gb of ddr4 3200mhz would it be worth it to upgrade to the 5800x?
Unfortunately, I haven't had the time to do any testing in Dying Light 2, so can't really give you a solid answer. But the 5800X is a little overkill if you'll mainly be using your system for gaming. The 5600X will give you about the same FPS boost (how much depends on how CPU-bound Dying Light 2 is) and will be easier on the wallet.
@@TheTechTank my pal has the int i7 9700k with a 6600xt and can run the game almost fine what would be the competitor to that cpu?
@@TheTechTank I also have had the same cooler for a while so I’m not sure if maybe it’s possible my cooler isn’t cooling my cpu properly which is resulting in the fps loss but I’m not to sure
@@TLEXE If he's getting much better FPS numbers than you using the same game settings, then it could be that your CPU is a little outdated, in which case you should definitely go with a 5600X. It's much better than the 9700K. As for your cooler, check your CPU temps when the game is running using something like hwmonitor or hwinfo. Anything under 85 degrees is fine for the most part.
creator can u please help me idk what motherboard to get i tried the asus rog b550f and z and x 570 gigbyte baords and they all are bad the bios doesent work the audio sometimes stops and sometime things dont even open
If you're having the exact same problems across three different motherboards, then the problem isn't with the motherboards. There's no way all three of those boards are defective. What do you mean by the BIOS not working, and "things don't even open"?
@@TheTechTank no ik my cpu works
I just bought a 5800x but I think I'm going to return it and wait for the Zen 3D V-cache release early next year.
Always smart to wait for next-gen if you're still happy with the performance you already have.
Probably not a good idea with the recent news of a certain cryptocurrency...
Thanks for the review man!
Also just snagged a asus rog strix rtx 3070 ti. Little warm in the case but that is becaude i need to add some intake fans on my rad. (Its front mounted due to clearance issues) so my 5800x gets a little warmer like 60 on load and the gpu is around 70 at load. But adding 2 more intake fans should help that lower the internal case temps.
Those extra fans will definitely help, but 70 isn't all that bad for the new RTX cards. The fans are set really low for temperatures at 70 and under.
im looking to build a new system mostly for gaming/streaming/adobe and video editing and im in the between of 3800x at 275€ / 5600x 290€ and 5800x at 360€. But i can't make a decision yet, what would u think is the best one to choose (looking for an upgrade to last atleast 5 years maybe more.) thnx in advanse
The 3800 and 5800X would both be great options for a hybrid gaming/creative work system. The 5800X isn't really worth the extra money over the 3800X IMO, unless you really want to get into PCIe 4.0 SSDs.
@@TheTechTank Firstly thanx for your answer. One more thing i was thinking is that probably we ll get the new series of processors probably in january of 2022 if the rumors are correct do you think i should wait a bit before i go for my new build? I'm pretty sure if they launch them all the previous series of ryzen cpu's ll get a reduction on their prices. That's all once again ty for ur time, have a nice weekend
@@freneticXII I think January is a bit too soon from what I've seen, but we're expecting next-gen Ryzen "early" next year. If you can wait for those to launch before building your rig, you should definitely do it. AMD will most likely lower prices of current-gen even more once those launch.
Haha I had a 3800x and now bought the 5800x (both have negative reviews for price vs. game performance ratio, but I consider them great CPUs) and I also have the same case, is that a sekira 100R I see behind you?
Lol, I went from 1700 to 3800XT and now the 5800X. Great chips regardless of what the initial reviews said. Almost got it right, it's the Sekira 500X hotbox.
I've had an 1800x, 2700x, and just bought the 5800x yesterday. AM4 has been a hell of a socket. I've upgraded from a 2080 Super and 2700x over the past month to a 6900XT and 5800x. My stubbornness waiting until prices became more reasonable has paid off.
@@AKSBSU That's not being stubborn, that's being smart! Congrats on the beastly new rig!
Upgrading from a Ryzen 5 2600 - I was going back and forth comparing the 5800X and the 11700K. Ryzen wins in my book because I can update my BIOS on my B450M motherboard and use it as opposed to having to buy a brand new Motherboard for over $150 US for the new intel chipset.
Maybe i9-10850k is a good choice , cheaper as well atleast in my country . As for the motherboard , usually I just do everything all over again when I want to upgrade my pc for say 4-5 years later
lmao good luck, the 5800x has defective lidding. Enjoy the instant 90c clock throttling. Hope you won the lottery.
What do you guys think would happen if I upgraded my 2600x to a 5800x with a 450MoBo & Radeon 580x GPU? I play warzone which is a heavy cpu based game
@@stevebanning902 I got mine setup yesterday and throughout the couple of stress test I manage to make, my 5800x held at 72ºC at 100% usage with all cores hitting 4.65Ghz with an artic 34 esports duo. All of this was achieved with everything in stock ( everything in auto on bios) except for RAM being at 3600mhz cl16. Even right now is sitting at 35ºC as I type this comment 22ºC ambient. So if it reaches 72ºC and I still can improve those temps while gaining a bit more performance, this thing is going to be a beast!
@@mrsuperselenio5694 Looks like you got one of the 20% of the procs that doesn't have issues. Good for you - but I ended up having AMD replace mine with a 5900x... way better.
So i basically got the ryzen 7 5700x and i need a recommendation for a good cpu cooler and im on a budget😌 what do u recommend
I've seen many great reviews on the Thermalright Peerless Assassin, definitely worth looking into for the price.
Hi. do you think 5700x is good choice for money? 5800x and 5900x is quite expensive, but maybe performance is worth money?
I'd take the 5700X if I was worried about my budget. Should get very similar gaming performance overall, and you can always overclock.
I got a humble ryzen 2600 paired with an RTX 3070,im happy with it but it's showing its old age, specially with BF2042. All on a B450M that locks my 32GB of DDR4 at 2933mhz because it can't handle the 3200mhz. So my question for you guys is: Should I impulse buy this processor right away or should I wait next year to buy the upcoming new Ryzen processor along with a new MB?
I'd recommend waiting if you can unless you can find a 5800X or X570 board selling for a big discounted price.
Getting my r7 5800x today. upgrading from a r5 3600. cant wait to put it in
Nice! I think you're going to be super happy with the upgrade.
I just bought a 3060ti and I'm thinking which CPU to buy... I am really considering the 5800x but I've been doing research and I've been seeing that the temp for the 5800x has been a problem should I not get this CPU or what should I do??
If you're only going to be gaming on the system, and worry about temps that much, then maybe consider getting the 5600X instead.
wow, you're the first reviewer to mention that a CPU with much higher consumption requires more expensive motherboards and coolers (and power supplies as well btw) much respect
Thanks so much, man! I forgot to mention the power supply requirement, and that should definitely also be a big consideration.
This review will age well, not like the others.
They beat intel in gaming, productivity AND power draw. Great channel mate!
Thanks! Looking forward to the coming generation! Should be some game changing stuff coming from both sides.
fun fact. a lot of people are unaware including many reviewers that the initial batch of 5800x and 5900x were actual dual ccd versions which AMD later revealed. and there will be a software release which includes a full unlocking of those processors. so the 5800x will ultimated become a 16core and in essence become the epyc version. and the 5900x will become the model higher than the current 5950x. they did it to the specifically the 6900xt gpu. you know the XTX and XTXH variants. i think amd is starting to transition to into using software to unlock more features. good vid btw
Thanks, man. While it's entirely possible that many of the 5K Ryzen chips have an "extra" CCX (some people having proven it via certain tools), those are most likely disabled by AMD because a validation failure. We've seen this in GPUs and CPUs for years now. Even if it was possible to reverse this, AMD wouldn't allow it on their end as it could make the chips unstable, and would threaten their higher-end chip sales. Both of which would be bad for business.
hey, the 5800x is 350€ vs 280€ 5600x here in Germany. i Only do gaming, but on my second Monitor i have always A dozen google tabs + KZhead/Netflix/Twitch. What do you recommend. The gpu is a MSI GTX 1080TI 11g. CPU Cooler Is the Brocken 3 (2fan)
The 5600X should be more than enough for gaming and multitasking with a bunch of tabs open. I'd only go for the 5800X if you can find it for a better price.
@@TheTechTank thank you, i will Order the 5600x the next Days.
My r7 5800x is comming on wensday picked up for £249 brand-new. Upgrading from an ivy Bridge 3rd gen Intel i73770k. Currently looking at weather to get x570s or b550.
Nice! That's going to be a super worthwhile upgrade! I'd go X570 if you're planning on overclocking your CPU or RAM, but if not B550 will do you just fine.
I have 3600 and b450m. thinking of upgrading to 5800x but keeping the motherboard. however 10850k and even 11900 are both cheaper than 5800x. what should I upgrade to? I can stil sell my 3600 and b450 at a good price
btw I have a evga 600W psu and 2070s
If we're talking CPUs only, I'd personally go with the 10850K because of the two extra cores and damned good performance. As for gaming all three chips should net you about the same frame rates, with the 11900K probably sneaking in a slight win overall. You'd just need to get a good (kinda expensive) motherboard to go with the Intel chips if you want to go that route. Just keep in mind that the 10850K doesn't support PCIe 4.0 if that's something you care about. Your PSU should be just fine with any of the chips as long as you don't manually overclock the intel chips.
Got the 5800x for black friday ( £330 ) it`s a great cpu( upgraded from 3600), a bit warm( but I use a beQuiet! Shadow Rock 3), idle at around 40-42 ( avg ), 70-75 ( avg ) while gaming, 80-83 ( avg ) if I run cinebench. Still boosts to 4.850( everything default in bios, only adjusted the cpu cooler fan speed). Wanted the 5900x but that was £450 and I don`t need that many cores/threads for 1440p gaming.
Those temps are great, and you definitely didn't need that 5900X. Would've been a waste for sure.
Packaging changed is it come with cardboard in empty box or plastic instead of Fan ?
Like with most of the chips that don't ship with an included cooler, the box just had a cardboard insert to keep the chip in place.
I just bought this chip on Amazon for 250. Do you think this cpu will be fine with this setup? Case Lian Li Tu 150 Motherboard GIGABYTE B550I AORUS PRO AX (AM4 AMD/B550/Mini-Itx CPU cooler Thermalright AXP-90 X47 Full Copper Memory AORUS GP-ARS16G37 (RGB/ 16GB RAM Memory Kit (2x8GB)/ 3733MHz/
It'll work fine, but I'm betting you're going to have some temperature issues. That cooler isn't really designed for chips like this, and that case doesn't have the best airflow. If you have some minor temperature issues you should be able to undervolt the chip which should help, but if it's constantly too hot I'd suggest a cooler upgrade.
Thx bro!
I just bought a prebuild with an RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5800, 16GB DDR4 3200mhz RAM, 1TB SSD etc... for $1650. Only downsides are a less than stellar CPU cooler (temps 80C all the time while playing CPU heavy games) and a rather lacking rear IO. Other than that what a steal.
Definitely not a bad price, and the temps, while not great, shouldn't be too much of a problem. Glad to hear you're happy with the system!