Ford owners left out of pocket - BBC London
2018 ж. 3 Қаз.
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Imagine you’re driving on a busy motorway when your car suddenly loses all power - or worse, you start to see smoke and flames coming from your engine. Hundreds of Ford owners across the UK say they’re experiencing catastrophic failures with their Ford ecoboost engines and in some cases they are being left thousands of pounds out of pocket. Keeley Donovan went to investigate.
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I'm trying to raise awareness about the 'Powershift' transmission fault on Ford vehicles. Ford fitted auto gearboxes which they knew would break soon after the warranty is up and refuse to acknowledge that they are completely faulty parts. It costs upwards of £4000 to fix them, even more if taken to a dealer
@@craigperks2986$7,000 USD AUD CAD
Engine of the year! But not engine of 3 years!
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Εngine Ford six years Continuously the best engine ever probably you are stupid
Γρηγορης Βερναρδακης found on the road dead
I work on cars for a living. Thanks to Ford, GM, and Chrysler I have lots of tools, a paid off house with a pool, and food in the fridge.
Two years on I’ve just read this and you’ve just made my day
@@alfies7642 innit 😂
hahahaha
lol
“I noticed that I had to top up the coolant more and more” Yet she didn’t seem to think she had a problem that needed investigating?
There’s a red flag in itself a 1.0 tugging that big heavy car and a family down the road
That George is an intelligent guy, he bought another ford!
You clearly didn't watch the whole video. He got considerably less for an insurance payout. Ford didn't give him another car
ubbgn I know right lmfao, like buying a time-bomb and buying another one after the first one blew, reason why I buy Toyota’s they would last forever, alas the floor rusts away before the engine or transmission bites the dust.
Another Ford I could possibly understand, another Ecoboost (EcoBoom) powered Ford....not so much!
I hope you are sarcastic? NEVER a Ford for me. When product AND service sucks, you have a huge problem.
He had nothing to put the fire out... How do you get through your tech checkup?
Should be called FRAUD NOT FORD
rc frenzy LOL
Ford stands for "Found On Roadside Dead" I believe
RR PLAN C okay, so the diesel gate made Diesel engines the villain and increased a boom in petrol car sales, just so they could prohibit petrol cars? Not sure which logic you follow. Edit: Good luck making a Molotov with diesel fuel.
Never buy a petrol car...... diesel cars are the best type you can get you’ll barely get engine trouble
LOOOOL
2:29 Pretending to understand what the mechanic is saying
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I have a 10 year plus history working in Ford service departments in the US, and they have an extremely long history of making what are called in the industry here as "Industrially Acceptable" (UA)decisions when producing components. I worked for them starting in the 1980's and my first experience with them was with my 1988 Mercury Sable with the 3.0 V-6 and the AXOD automatic transmission. That transmission had a long history of failure. In my case, it was caused by a spot welded cross shaft in one of the planetary gears popping loose and essentially grenading the transmission. This was an engineering decision with the UA principle above. My more recently, I purchased a 2013 Focus with the 2.0 liter 4 cylinder coupled to the Getrag computer shifted dual clutch manual transmission. Ford, in my opinion, made a very bad decision bringing this transmission into the US, as it was designed, in my opinion, for European-style driving conditions, Try driving that transmission in San Francisco or Los Angeles traffic, and before long the clutch pack will start to chatter. It is costing them Millions to fix this, and it boils down to a very poorly advised corporate decision. Lack of field testing??
It’s a lack of field testing combined with cost cutting. The issue is they keep on adding more and more gears and clutches to automatic transmissions which increases the chance of something failing since the more parts there are, the higher likelihood of something breaking. Ford many years ago used the C6 and AOD automatic transmissions in their rear wheel drive vehicles many years ago and while not very efficient, could run for many hundreds of thousands of miles with little to no trouble. The Ford C6 which is a 3 speed automatic can easily be rebuilt and repaired for $800 or $900, doing a rebuild to a Ford dual clutch transmission will be in the thousands easily.
Agree with all of the above, but if you were selling something in a highly competitive market where ‘More’ sells more i.e your selling a vehicle in the modern market that has a very reliable 4 or 5 speed auto but the performance numbers/ mpg numbers are down on your competitor, plus the fashion aspect of having an old style transmission compared to the guy down the road that has a gazillion speed auto that is the latest and greatest - how do you think that goes down in the sales world? Not very well………
@@mentalmechanic maybe but here’s the thing, price. Even if a 1966 Ford Galaxie 500/LTD were to be made and sold today’s car market, the price would attract lots of people with a $25,000 price tag. Many people would be like “Huh, may be old and antiquated but since it can seat 6, has a large trunk, can easily make repairs at home fairly easily, large car comfort and luxury and costs less than a Toyota that offers ‘more’, seems like a a lot of car for the dollar”. Basically would have a untapped market, you think something from years ago wouldn’t sell but would be quite surprised on how some people just want something that’s basic but has large car room and comfort. Only way to get comfort and room in this day and age is to buy a SUV or truck, most of which are larger and heavier than most full sized cars from the 60’s and some get horrendous gas mileage as well.
Strangely enough I had a UK spec 09 2L diesel Focus estate, (2012 US electrics), auto box, never failed but never entered gear 6! The next car will be a self charging hybrid with a torque convertor gearbox! I think that leaves Audi with all their ECU and BCM problems.
So these people's Ford cars burnt and... they got themselves another Ford cars 🤔🤔🤔 Excuse me... but WTF?!
Some people need a good slap!🎯
Probably got them for a crazy discount
LOL , people never learn.
People from Essex love Fords, always will do
It would seem not everyone learns from their mistakes lol
Ford's customer service stinks in the UK. It is really, really bad. The Dealership's are just as bad. If you can, *AVOID* buying a Ford. There are plenty of alternatives out there, some with 7 years warranty and a much higher level of customer service. I had a Ford Mondeo that did not lock when driven forward. I took it to a Dealership who refused to tell how to enable the feature, but were happy to charge me £60 to enable the feature. After a bit of research, I did it myself and it took 2 minutes and 16 seconds to enable the function. Charging me *£60* for *under* 3 minutes of labour is daylight robbery. I will name and shame the dealership. It was Allen Ford in Coventry. *Don't go there. You will get ripped off.*
That is cheeky. However, the Ford dealership I have used twice in the last year for substantial repairs have been very friendly and reasonably priced.
I've been to three Ford dealers in three completely different parts of the UK. In all three of them the customer service was a pile of shite. In the first one, the salesman was totally disinterested and made me feel like I was wasting his time. He didn't even tell me anything about the car and just made sarcastic, passive aggressive comments about my driving as I tested the car. When we got back he just asked "Are you buying it then", I said I'd think about it, and he basically just parked the car up. No debrief, didn't ask me what I thought, no "here's my card" , nothing like that. The test drive also started 15 minutes late despite me being on time. The second one (500 miles away two years later) I turned up for a 2pm test appointment with Salesman A. He was "with a customer" (this always happens). I was then kept waiting over 40 minutes before Salesman B took me out for a very hurried test drive which wasn't long enough at all. I had another test drive at Honda to go to - which I had to phone and push back by 30 minutes because Ford kept me so late - so didn't stick around. This was after the salesman tried to upsell gap insurance. The third one took my ex's Ka in for servicing, she told them about stuff she wanted looked at and none of it was done. We stopped using the official dealership, eventually she traded that car in and now has a Peugeot. Ford have a LOT to do. But to be fair, that issue with test drives never starting on time seems to be the norm across all car dealerships.
uktech So you’re annoyed that Ford wanted to charge you to enable a feature that your car originally never came with? Of course they’re gonna charge you, it’s time and labour (regardless of how quick it took you to do it) and you can do it yourself with something like Forscan, but good luck if you lose connection part way through and brick your ECU, at least ford would do it properly and be accountable if it were to go wrong.
SinistaUK Not saying it didn’t come with it; I believe they are saying it was something that could be enabled by the driver through some kind of one time routing. In my Dad’s Range Rover for example- to wear in new rear brake pads you have to pull the electronic park brake 5 times and pump the brake pedal to enable.
I don't buy Fords, I do realize however that all manufacturers and dealerships have their own experiences and customer service. If you want to know how to enable a machine, by a code reader, then do your own mechanical research. The information is out there, but don't expect any manufacturer to provide that information to you. People need to be paid, specifically the mechanics who do the work. If your car is out of warranty, then it's out of warranty. All in all the time it took you to find the error, research the issue, implement the solution was longer than 2 minutes and 16 seconds. You should place a review on google maps about your experiences with each dealership, it will help others. Just remember, I won't advocate not buying any specific brand, because it's rarely a brand thing in regards to customer service because I spent time selling cars after I got laid off and got to learn a lot about the industry as a whole and on a dealership level - sales and service. That said, this specific car sounds like a problem child.
They were already called Ecoboom years ago, yet rubber belts submerged in oil causing oil pickup issues, holes in blocks/heads causing loss of coolant into the exhaust. If they were engineered with timing chains and made with slightly better materials around the block it would be great engine imo
Was looking into ecoboost, was 100% told to evoid them like the plague.
Premature fail of the wet cambelt now a major issue. Got rid if mine before it went boom, Honda driver now
Yes. Was talking to mechanic yesterday. Apparently with more conventional engine designs if a cambelt was discovered to have any oil on it, it would need replacing because the oil would cause rot. Then Ford brings this wet cambelt design out using a "special" type of oil so it won't rot but upon inspection during service or after failure the belt has rotted. I'm gutted cos I was very interested in an 2018- ST but definitely won't be buying one now.
I hope you find your crappy CVT transmission satisfactory.
Wet belt/oil pump and head failures, not good. Toyota or Honda is a good choice
Is George driving a Ford again after the insurance payout?
looks like it
Plus, he lost a lot of money because they refused to payout but goes back to them.
That's some serious misplaced loyalty!
The Fiesta ST is a really good car (when the engine isn't on fire). There's nothing like it in it's class for handling and engaging driving (or keeping you warm at the roadside). If you're not a car enthusiast you won't understand.
@@markwright3161 yeah i drive it and i love it even though i own more expensive cars
There's reason why the Ecoboost has become nicknamed the EcoBoom! I thought it was just the 2.3 in the focus RS and Mustang that had serious failures but it seems the whole lineup is pretty bad! Meanwhile my old BMW with 180,000 miles sails on with no mechanical issues at all, just the odd sensor here and there needing replacing. German and Japanese are clearly better for reliability.
soundseeker63 BMW N47 Diesel engine is not exactly reliable lots had timing chains snap writing off the engine then the battery cable fiasco this year and the nikasil lining that failed......all manufacturers have some issues. Trying to squeeze 2 litres performance out of a 1 litre is always going to result in is premature failure imho.
I call it eco bust :)
I’d frankly rather my car catch fire than have metal fragments blown into my face. There is no issue with the 2.3, only that some had the Mustang head gasket put on the RS ones which had different coolant channels.
I had a 2004 A4 1.9TDI with 220000 miles on it and there was no problems whatsoever. It was good until it got wrote off.
Are these engines effected not the one's designed in German?
You'd have thought that, after decades and decades of car production, testing and development, that car manufacturers would have got their products right by now !
It's called trying to reinvent the wheel🤓
It’s called profit margin. Nothing more
There is a famous case where US Ford badly designed a car which in a rear end accident exploded the fuel tank. Ford did a risk assessment and concluded that it was cheaper to pay the death claims than redesign the car. The internal letter explaining this is available online, so where profit is concerned, it comes before safety as long as the numbers suggest it will be cheaper not to fix.
"Engine of the Year"...which shows that car journalists have no clue what they are voting for :-)
My neighbour had the same problem with her Ford and she wanted me to have a look at it. Anyway we ended up shagging and long story short she now uses public transport and I’m trying to sell the car on eBay for her.
Hahaha ffs
well done Ace.
love thy neighbour
Good job mate.
All the puns xD Having a laugh midnight
Big cars shouldnt have a shitty 1.0 litre engine
No replacement for replacement
Yes, according to the government they should. Manufacturers have no choice.
A small engine like the ecoboost will work fine in a plug in hybrid setup or as a range extender.
You should tell that to the thousands of transit vans and minibuses driving around north of 100k miles with small turbo engines.
There is going to be a phev transit with a 1 liter ecoboost generator engine next year.
They are experiencing the same problems with the larger ecoboost engines in the US too. Ford became aware of it about the same time they were having so many issues with the dual clutch transmissions.
Do I dare mention the DCT Transmission. Issues since 2011 through 2018. I have a 2017 one clutch replacement.
Ford Engine Failures. This video seems to be painting over a BIG problem. There have been numerous problems with new Ford engines, ever since strict EU and US emissions laws have forced car makers to develop small, lightweight engines, which need to be turbocharged just to give them some power. The metals are weak, the gasket areas are thin and cramped, and easily fatigue. Take the Focus RS (the latest one)... Ford (for some ridiculous and stupid reason) designed the engine in such a way that the four piston cylendars are actually unsupported inside engines block, but remain ‘kept in place’ only by the head gasket!! Lots of Focus RS owners reported total engine failures at around the 20,000 mile mark, and around 1-3 years of age. What happens, is that the engine vibrates away the gasket’s material, and begins allowing coolant to seep into the cylendars. This creates a situation where the engine loses coolant and needs topping up. But, all of a sudden, the gasket would fail completely and lots of coolant would rush into a cylendar and seize the engine up by ‘hydro-locking’ it. Along the way, it also likely overheated and warped the top and bottom sections of the engine block, resulting in a scrap engine. Fords solution? Recall Focus RS and replace head gasket with a slightly better one! A 300bhp engine relying on a wager of metal to keep it in check!! Jesus! And since 2010, these little put-put-put three-cylendar EcoBoost engine’s have been pretty much the same. Except worse! When coolant can seep into the exhaust manifold area, this can cause detonation and fire. Not good. Imagine if a driver was startled by it, crashed and fell unconscious or injured and couldn’t get out. They would be killed. The biggest issue is that Ford have been very dismissive to customers until class action was taken and TV jumped in too. Ford telling customers that the solution was to fit a better “Coolant Low Sensor” is NOT solving the crappy built engine issue. My advice? Stay away from second-hand Ford EcoBoost cars. If you must, lease one on HP, not buy outright.
DerbJd agreed, I think they’ve gone too far....the Renault 5 turbo was great fun and had remarkable power from a 1.4 turbo engine at the time when other makes hot hatches had 1.6, 1.8, 1.9, 2.0 litre engines
Thats what happens when you are squeezing 125hp out of a 1.0 litre 3 pot there is too much load on the engine and turbo. Its funny how the old NA 1.4 and 1.6 engines never had problems.
its more of a shoddy design rather than its small displacement people as there are people squeezing twice that amount of power out of upsized kei car engines and not catch fire in an even more cramp kei car chassis also it doesn't excuse the bigger ecoboost engines from failing either as the renault manages to hold itself together using outdated tech
James Mike Fords usually make reliable engines, the 1.25 engine they used to make, was extremely reliable
Literally in this video it said the cmax 1.6 had coolant problems and it set on fire. The ST owner had a 1.6 too. The difference in these engines compared to the older 1.25 engines etc is that they have small turbos and intercoolers with ECU maps tailored to them. The others didn't, and this is where the extra power is coming from. It's what people did on the aftermarket scene adding turbos and intercoolers, all be it that ford copied this and used smaller turbo/intercoolers and aftermarket are much bigger.
Ford has a head gasket problem? NO WAY!!!
The Ford fiesta ST was notorious for blowing head gaskets
And the transmission problems on the fiesta and focus
FORD - (Fix Or Repair Daily) (Found On Rubbish Dumps)
lmaoo
Just like Subarus
70 year old design 1.0 Austin A series engine in Morris 1000, Mini etc ran for 20 years untouched without issue. Modern technology makes life a lot easier doesn't it.
We call them ecoboom engines because they blow up so often.
George doesn't sound like a very smart person.
But at least he's put his best football shirt and gold chain on to appear on TV.
Stfu
No , hes just a lazy European with their lazy English
all the "humans" in this video are low quality scum
Same problem here in South Africa - the same engine was used in their SUV (Kuga) - several documented cases of engine fires. The 1.6L was discontinued and replaced with a 1.5L variant.
how is the 1.5l
@@nathanreid2974 There has been no cases of that Ecoboost variant having the same issues. Also the 1.5L is a 3 cylinder rather than 4 cylinder - totally different design.
Thank you for posting this video!! Very informative. It is reasons like this that I will never own an American car. I had an old early 80’s 450SL my first year in college, 2005, and I noticed an odd clunking noise so I took it to the dealership. The welds on the rear subframe had cracked and the subframe was flexing. Mercedes-Benz gave me a brand-new subframe from Germany, AND they installed it, free of charge. Mercedes stands behind their cars, unlike any other brand.
They don't do that any more sadly.
Google suggests some 1.0 had a nylon coolant hose that can fail at high temperature and some 1.6 may have a head crack issue. Both cause loss of coolant and possibly consequentially damage. I'm aware that it's important to use the correct oil to protect the timing belt. Are there any other known issues to watch for before buying a second hand ecoboost?
George accepted an insurance offer and got another Fiesta ST? I wouldn't buy the same car again after it went up in flames, especially due to such widespread issues!
I agree he must be mad!
There's one born every minute...
Could well be that the insurance insisted on like for like replacement.
Fiesta STs are rubbish anyway. Driven by idiots
Eco boost, earth dreams, turbo, Volvo turbo supercharged. Everyone was hyped about mass production turbo cars. These engines are going through high pressure with more strain. About time the real reliability numbers come to picture. Good thing some manufacturers still make naturally aspirated 4/6's.
Naiyo I got a 1.4 turbo Cruze with 170k on it and it’s been perfect. Hell at this point I’m good I have drove my money out of it but I truly believe it will go way beyond 200k miles it’s not using any oil sounds like a sowing machine. I was actually a little worried when I first got it but after I got used to a turbo I love it.
Earth Dreams isn't turbocharged. My 2018 Odyssey is very much NA.
Whats wrong with the Volvo Twin Charged engine ? Other than owners complaining that its feels underpowered compared to the old T5/T6 i havent heard about any issues with it, and its been out for a while now.
@@nboy7 buy one without warranty
Explain please what you are talking about ? im a member of the Volvo Club and I have not heard of any issues with the twin charge setup on the T6s cars. Are you saying that the maintenance is expensive ? If so, then yes it is because you have BOTH a turbocharger and a supercharger to look after, but thats to be expected. If you are talking about reliability...then youll need to give me some evidence because many of these cars are already old now and their hasnt been many issues. Volvo has been using turbo technology since the 80s, they know what they are doing. The only Volvo engines i know of that are having issues are the ones that were actually Ford units from the time when Ford owned them, mostly the 1.6L Ecoboosts.
What you expect. You have a tiny little engine being pushed to its limits with a turbo. It's gonna break for sure!
yep
@@nathanreid2974 it’s always best to use a bigger engine with or without a turbo so it’s less stressed.
I know here in the states there was a issue with the eco boost engines where the head gasket isnt being seated properly and covering a coolant hole in the block causing it to crack and over heat but I haven’t heard anything about a recall about it.
wtf. The car doesn't have a sensor for low coolant?
It does but everyone who isn't a car guy doesn't pay attention to it thus the alarm to make people pay attention to it. Still not a subtitle fix this needs to end recalled for safety issues.
Overfill the coolant and enjoy the too high pressure you get while the car gets warm making the engine have a catastrophic failure from too many moving molecules with nowhere to go, water thicker than air, and you always need to have some air and never fill it up all the way, lol
This didn’t used to be that uncommon, although probably is these days.
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv There already are recalls for the coolant systems in EcoBoost engines. Usually a plastic pipe snaps causing coolant to piss out everywhere.
@@Anirossa Lol, you need to go on a mechanic's course.
And here my 2009 Type R with just over 100k miles is sailing through no problem.
Hahaha same bro but just done 90000 amazing engines!
Does this affect all ecoboost engine or 1 liter only. I'm looking to get 2.3 liter ecoboost
"Safety is fords number one priority" HOW DID SHE SAY THAT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE!?!!!?
might be take 7 take 9 etc
I would rather own a manipulated volkswagen
Get a Hyaundi, my neighbour owned one across the road from me , had it 10 years , never gave any trouble. Greetings from Northern Ireland.
I have a 2017 Polo Match. So far so good! Polo's probably their most reliable car even though it's less reliable than others.
We've had new Astra for 2-years which has been very nice. They're not very popular now with the rise of SUVs.
Winifred Thompson You can’t even spell Hyundai mate.. 🤨 but eehm, no.
@@winifredthompson2488 a WOT?
More reason why I am starting to like Toyota more and more.
Driving a Lexus. Best decision I ever made. Bought it used at 60k. No problems with it and now has 234k miles on it. NOT a single problem I had to fix. I WAS looking at Ford Expedition but seeing how they treat their customers I'll pass. Although the next vehicle will be in the Toyota family as higher up the Lexus chain one goes up the repairs do also. As soon as they update the Sequioa I'm be first in line to buy it. I think/hope 2020 they do a complete redesign.
I actually bought a new 2012 Ford Focus, it was nothing but problems. 5,000 miles, the transmission was going out, apparently it was normal went brought to the dealership to have it not shift correctly. Called Ford, they had me take it to another dealer, they said it's fine, despite leaking oil, that's normal they said. I sold it to a Carmax, got most my money back, and bought a used Toyota Matrix. Not a single issue with it yet.
Don't fool yourself Toyota have made some terrible blunders - just recently with cracking cylinder heads and failing piston rings on all 2.4 l engines. All companies have their failures you can't just single out ford.
@@Mr2pint Absolutely. But car FIRES. Ford has 7 different makes and 58,000 cars recalled because of car FIRES. Life & death where a fire can consume a car VERY fast under 10- 30 seconds if the smoke doesn't kill you. Cracked heads and RUBBER oil lines from Toyota/Lexus the most that would happen is it dumping oil from the engine and freeze it up. Still not spectacular but not life threatening. Ford just cheapens out on gaskets, oil rings and critical components.
lol no?
So at the end of this vid it says they'll fix it? Is that write and if so who do I contact? Thanks
My 2.3L Ecoboost in my Mustang blew up after 4k miles. The replacement that I had to pay for now has over 12k miles on it and is running well. I also had a 2.0L Ecoboost in a leased 2016 Focust ST that never gave me any issues thankfully.
Really hope they some day issue a recall on the 2.3L so I can get my $6800 back!
That smells like a lie
what replacement was that
The solution for this is simple. Don't ever buy a Ford vehicle.
Yes, buy any other brand at all. Because none of those others ever have dangerous faults or recalls.
Yeah, I've got a Ford escort, it's okay..
No the solution is never buy a petrol car
R Selvaraju If you look at the reliability surveys, Ford actually ranks higher than VW, BMW for reliability
But BMW will fix your car without all this horseshit and give you a loaner while you're waiting. You are paying for something.
lmao they literally put a tape over the problem by installing an alarm instead of fixing it
Because majority of the engines will last as long as the car? No point in replacing every single engine when not all of them are faulty.
@@Commentator541 It's a Ford, all of their engines are faulty...
@@jaredshelton4718 that sounds like a generalization. The limousine company near is retiring their 500,000+ mile Lincoln Town Cars.
@@Lincolnator721 k then all the ecoboost engines are faulty
@@yeety1208 what do you mean? Idiot lol
Hey in looking to get a fiesta is this just the ecoboost engines or is it all engines :)
Don'y know why all these car makers are going to small turbocharged engines. In the U.S. the Escape (Kuga) comes with a 2.5L, 1.5L Ecoboost and a 2.0L Ecoboost. I bought a 2018 Escape in June and bought the base model because it came with the 2.5L. I didn't want an Ecoboost engine which comes in the higher trim levels. The 2.5L is an older engine design that was designed by Mazda and it uses Port Injection, not Direct Injection. I drove my Escape to Wisconsin in August and was getting up to 32 mpg U.S. which is 38.4 mpg Imperial. My previous car was a 2012 Ford Focus hatchback with a 2.0L and I was getting 39 mpg U.S. or 46.8 mpg Imperial on the interstate. Traded it in with about 83k and the engine ran like a top. Who needs a turbo? Just more to go wrong.
amen to that,,,, in non-performance cars Mazda is still using NA gas in their mazda 6, Toyota avensis comes with a 2.0l NA with 156bhp in Europe,, But Honda with their last generation start using turbo in theirs accords.. What mazda did was to increase efficiency in their NA engines buy using a larger compression ratio. (sky-active tech).. Durability of those engines ,, only time will tell,, But yes, buying a used car without warranty I would avoid turbo gases,, the duratec 2.0 HE (mazda design) in the ford Mondeo works really well,, and runs forever without much fuss
This issue has nothing to do with turbo charging or small displacement at all. Only a poorly designed sensor array that didn’t monitor coolant levels properly and a bad coolant system with brittle components. The turbo chargers are absolutely fine.
Get yourself a Japanese motor
GTB_Greedy why get just a motor when I could get a whole car
@@StephenMartin8888 You should search up the word motor.
Get an electric car, then the term "motor" will be correct.
Homecomfort no I’m pretty sure motor is correct...
stephen martin bc the Japanese motor would last 500k miles
It looks like a problem with the casting of the cylinder head. If a crack develops due to poor quality alloy or the cooling process of the cast material, coolant loss would result. Most car owners rarely look under the bonnet (hood) to monitor fluid levels, so Ford's initial response to add a coolant warning sensor, and to tell the customer to ensure proper levels, is just a way for them to absolve themselves of any responsibility. If the recall was to replace defective cylinder heads, rather than just installing a new sensor, the amount of time in a shop is considerable. A dealer does not want to have their mechanics working on recalls where they do not make money - the real money is in customer authorized repairs.
I suposed getting a replacement head will be costly due to the veriable camshaft timinb
So why is Claire still driving a Ford in the video?
God damn it Claire
because shes nuts ?
is it another c max
Is a 2016 1.5 tdci 118bhp focus reliable or will it break like these cars ? I currently drive a mk6 1.4tdci fiesta with 114k and it hasn't given me any mechanical problems whatsoever, I want to buy the focus as it's newer
What do you expect from the company that built the pinto.
haha
Savage 😂
It's the pinto all over again.
Better than gm
Ford like many car manufacturers are trying to outdo their competitors by screwing more power from smaller engines. The MK1 and MK2 petrol Mondeo cars could do 500,000 miles with minimal repairs. I’ve known several taxi drivers who have achieved this.
Owen Beattie Naturally aspirated engines, are far more reliable and will last longer. Turbos eventually fail or wear down
Tom Jardine Yesh
Owen Beattie it’s the eu regulations forcing car manufacturers to put smaller and smaller engines in cars while the cars get bigger and bigger
@@Aron-ru5zk No wonder why I don't hear about this stuff in the US lol
Izunami well it’s happening in the USA as well just they are about 10 years late
Cancelled my test drive due tomorrow I'll try a skoda or vauxhall instead.
There's a certain way of designing cylinder heads (forgot the exact engineering term), but it's what causes this problem. They do it because it's more compact, and they can use less bolts to fasten things. However it results in a thinner wall section of the head gasket unsupported, so it's much more prone to blowing out. Funny thing is this is also a known problem with other past engine designs by VW and Subaru, and Ford still makes the same mistakes. (You'd think they'd do their homework and look at how others were doing it, and then seeing it wasn't that great an idea in the first place.)
Casting?
Nothing to do with design @pauljs75. All to do with cost vs benefit. People who think manufacturers should want to make the most reliable vehicle in existence, to the detriment of profit and future sales, need to give their heads a wobble
Just great! Was looking to buy a Ford Focus 2018 1.0 Eco boost. Now I don't know which car to get next. Might just settle with a 2015 VW golf GTD.
The 1.0 ecoboost is a newer engine than the ones in this video and is proving (so far) to be more reliable. Don't take my word for it, look it up online. Every brand or car has it's is issues, you can google any car and find a whole list of known problems. By the logic of this crazy comment section, you shouldn't buy any of those cars and all brands are awful, better get a bicycle! My brother owns a VW Golf and it had problems with the electronics which took VW over a month to repair, the car wasn't able to drive for an entire month. Conventiently this happened right after the warranty ran out so he had to pay it all out of pocket. However this anecdote shouldn't stop you from buying a VW. All cars from all brands can fail. Just buy what you want and pray that you're lucky. P.S. Ford ranks higher than the VW group brands in the UK reliability ranking.
Get the golf 100% better car less depreciation less problems
Nicholas Johnson I think I'm better off sticking with VW. Because my first car 5 years ago was a little 1.2 polo 2002 plate and gave me a good run for the few years I had it. Then switched to a 1.6 Vauxhall Insignia 2010 plate which I have now. But I'm 24 years old now looking for something a bit bigger in engine. But I'm worried that a 2.0 GTD golf will murder me on insurance.
B. Garrison There is good and bad cars produced, I bet the failure rate is tiny, compared to the amount sold
Always buy the newer versions of any car as you know for a fact that the manufacturer would have fixed all those previous problems they had on the older cars. I don't think there'll be any problems with buying a 2018 ford focus.
Omg! I've had several 1.0 ecoboost fiestas and they've all been great, I love them
hit and mis with some people i think, boils down to luck
That’s why I love fords , it’s bring me lots of regular customers - garage owner 😄😂😜☝️
What cars do you never see.
I’d like to know where were they made? My fiesta 1.0 is made in Thailand, I’m from Australia, no issues with engine or auto transmission
My first car was a new fiesta with the 1 litre ecoboost engine for two years with no problems, then had the fiesta st with the 1.6 litre ecoboost brand new with no problems for 3 years and now have the focus rs brand new with the 2.3 litre engine which has the correct cylinder head gasket that means no recall! So unfortunate for the people with the failures in the ecoboost engine in there cars
Aleksander Clark 10 years of driving Ford and had no problems either
Aleksander Clark I drive a fiesta, with the old 1.25 engine and it’s been superb on the reliability front. I often wonder how well maintained are these cars, when the engines are failing on them ?
Owned a fezST for 5 years no issues I got the letter for the coolent sensor recall but back in the day we never had sensors to tell us when things like oil or coolant was low we used common sense do they still teach this on driving exams ?
Considering the cost cutting measures clearly visible in the Ecoboost... It's an amazing engine, if only they'd let the engineers do their bloody jobs!
So which engines are effected just the 1.0 and 1.6?
Engine being that small and all that boost i wonder if all that exhaust back pressure lifts the head and causes the gaskets to blow. definitely would like to see if an upgraded head gasket and head bolts would help at all? i work on these cars all the time, along with the other american brands and they seem to have the same issue.
My GF asked me why u always buy Toyota car? my answers is even oneday i die my car will still running
Tjia Andre I like how your comment is still edited and you still typed it like you’re two years old. Go to school and learn English kid.
Well i still learning my English and English not my main language and i think i more successful than u in life so go find better job kid!!
Can you try that again, but this time in English?
lol poor guy you cant afford to maintain a proper vechicle so you buy a toyota
i feel you not everybody is rich in this world
Here in the US the abbreviation for FORD is found on road dead or Fix or repair daily.
Happend to us with the 1.5 2016 focus, still trying to get help, lost over 15 thousand over the past year and half due to repetative check ups, coolant top ups, spark plugs and cleans from ford garages until one eventually told us about this problem. It's so disgusting how the company has handled/managed this. The lot should've been recalled! At least victims of this shouldn't have to pay the full cost for a new faulty engine or cost of a new car like we've had to. Very disappointing 😕
May i ask what you mean by a clean Is this an additive in the petrol like STP or a Engine internal clean before a refill with fresh SAE 5-20 oil please advise
@AndrewGrigsby-mj3if Sure! The latter. Internal clean with a complete refill with fresh oil.
@derbjd please advice how is Ford 1.5 tdci engine in Ford ecosport..
Still daily driving my ‘68 Cortina
I daily my '82 Ford Granada
As far as I am aware, there was a recall on Ecoboost engines. I was working in a garage where we were dealing with a Ford Focus which had the same problem, the engine was exchanged with a short engine however the turbo was also faulty (on a car with 15,000 miles might I add) as the seals had gone & was throwing all the engine oil straight down the exhaust. Ford should of designed the ecoboost engines properly & should seriously overhaul their recall strategy
the engine with the turbo problem, was that diesel or petrol
I’ve got a 2013 1.6 tdci grand c max 48k and sometimes the fan turns on when stopped and can run for a good 45 mins very loud but never loses any liquids 🤔
So the young lad with the st that caught fire, got another one? 😂
That's why I love my Lada.
Comrade
Old school Tractor technology. Easy to fix.
Lada is needed in US, they will sell like hotcakes
@@GhostOfAMachine really? they don't make enough power for the us market.
Good to hear that. I have my 25 year old Rover 400 with the modified head gasket. No problem since.
*FORD* - Fix Or Repair Daily
What car do you drive?
First On Race Day 😏
@@SuperSonicSpeedGuy Failed On Race Day*
@@VoidSixx haha, there's plenty more...
@vvvVFANGSVvvv that's a new one to me 😂
I have a 2014 focus that i bought new. These are the problems i had this calendar year: Starter broke ( fixed for free after warranty ended with a super hard negotiations with my dealer, and only i think because i bought 3 cars there ) Washer broke once. Fixed. Washer broke second time. Motor needs replacement. Horn broke.
Boosted engines need to be made stronger/sturdier then naturally aspirated ones to withstand the higher pressures and temperatures.
Exactly they are currently doing the opposite lmao
I have '14 C Max with a 2.0 TDCI as my cab and have 535k miles currently without a single breakdown. Of course small turbopetrols develop problems over the years its because they are choked by emission standards which are nonsense in my opinion.
Stig's Turkish Cousin People skip maintanence and warning signs. Like the lady in the video that kept driving when there was smoke under her bonnet. Should be much tougher to get a licence.
Ford and GM have been notorious for making crappy vehicles with crappy engineering standards. Toyota and Mazda don't seem to have these issues.
imzjustplayin The Ecoboost is a modified Duratec, which is a Mazda engine. The 2.0l has always been known for weak cylinder walls and the 1.8 is notorious for bad piston rings. Mazda are also rust buckets, but depending on where you live you might not have that issue
DaShitProductions I often wonder what state was the car in, was the oil level low, or coolant not checked properly?
Stig's Turkish Cousin I own a Ford Fiesta, I bought it new in 2010 and it’s so far been extremely reliable and only tyres have been replaces
To quote a certain Aussie: "If spontaneous combustion were an Olympic sport, Ford would go for gold!"
Similar to what happened with the Mitsubishi Montero in the Philippines, but it didn't have anything to do with the engine, instead it was the brakes. It cost lives too.
I always hear the fan coming on on Ford Fiestas without EcoBoost engines but those are not major problems they just come on and off all the time
I had a Ford once. It was very reliable. I could always depend on the dashboard warning lights to tell me what's wrong with it.
what car was that
I think that's going to go over a lot of people's heads.
Powershift transmission = PowerShit
Wan Luqman yeah, it is pretty sad that Ford has not managed to fix their shitty auto transmissions after so many complaints. It has been years now, and they still offer their unfinished products to customers. No wonder it is going terrible for them, and they are laying off people.
Wan Luqman, I had a Kuga with the Powershift transmission,the gearbox changed gear when it felt like it,I returned to the Main Dealer several times for the gearbox to be reflashed,it was alright for a few days then back to normal,when the weather was cold it was even worse,in the end I just it in manual mode because it was just easier to drive,kept it just three years and then bought a BMW with the eight speed four wheel drive set up,just perfection won't buy Ford Again ever.
I have a Smax 2010 140hp TDCi with Powershift and I love it. The previous owner hadnt done the 3yr/60.000km gearbox service so it was juddering when I got it. Its been completly fine ever since.
Robert Jensen ,Count yourself lucky,mine was bought new and I only did 19,000 miles in three years,got shut as soon as the warranty was up because I didn't fancy picking a big bill for gearbox repairs.
Must add that my sister bought the new model Smax (2015~?) and their gearbox failed not long after. Was fixed under warranty luckily (5yrs here in Norway btw.)
My father drives a 2006 Mazda3. It has an 84hp naturally aspirated 4 cylinder paired with a 5 speed manual. It is far away from powerful, but it's responsive and playful enough, and it takes us wherever we need to go and it does it's job nicely. The only reliability issue is called rust, but it isn't serious yet, and mostly it's an easy fix. Btw he drives every year approximately between 6 and 7thousand miles, and the only thing we have to do with it is oil and oil filter changes. Actually because of Hungarian roads a suspention change is in sight, but that's not the car's fault.
WOW! Same problems I’m having 2013 Ford Escape exact problems overheating leaking coolant warning signs
No such problems with my 1987 2.9 V6 Ford Granada ! Ford's engine development programme and subsequent post-manufacture testing should have found these faults out before it even went into production. I work in engine design and development and know for a fact that these things _should_ have passed unbelievably harsh and rigorous testing that they'd never see in real life (There'a a 400 hour manifold crack test which is utterly evil to an engine. It cycles through 7 minutes of max power/full throttle and then motored fresh air, which gives it a massive repeated thermal shock).
My dad's 1977 Ford Granada Mk.1 2.6L and my 82' Ford Granada Mk.2 with a 2.3L V6 also doing just fine :)
Adrian Can’t be the original engine surely ?
Tom Jardine It is the original engine, it's getting close to 300.000 km
Now you see why Ford is moving away of the small car business.
+Cristian Lopez That's only in North America. They're still making small cars in Europe.
I've seen people posting problems with the eco-boost F-150, in US.
I am from the states and my parents bought Fords and the was good reliable cars. Back in 2006 I bought a pre owned 2005 certified Ford. Had it for a year and a half, the Transmission went out. Ford refused to help in any way. I spoke to the corporation no help at all. I was disappointed with Ford never again. I have heard so many complaints about the company not trying to help the customers. Transmission and engine failures all the time
Here's your problem- don't buy automatic
Fords are super unreliable.
I've had my Corsa C 12 years from new and it's never let me down. I've always serviced it myself and it's still going strong. It still looks like new.
Corsas are driven exclusively by pedos 🤣🤣🤣
Extremely relevant information to this video. Same manufacturer and model and everything
The brunette journalist is absolutely gorgeous!
Priorities!
You are a man of culture, I see
Metoo
First thing I noticed. Wonder whats her name
She has her moments for sure.
Ecoboost engines are notoriously well known to categorically fail
No they are not. Ecoboost engines are consistently winning best engine of the year. You are just an ignoramus brainwashed by BBC.
gvi341984 They are reliable if you look after it, and make sure the coolant is fine
I've got 225,000 miles on my 2.0 liter EcoBoost and she runs like the day I bought her. The only repair, replaced a radiator hose at 190,000 miles because it cracked and was leaking a small amount of coolant.
JonnyRicter Ford engines are very reliable
Ya I got a HEMI
If you want a Ford Petrol engine just go for the standard engine. Less fuel efficient but alot more reliable
I feel horrible for those affected by engine failure. My local dealer here in Provo Utah has done an amazing job on my Ford Focus Titanium. Zero problems at 54000 miles. However that doesn't justify not taking properly care of other customers around the world. I had a similar experience with Toyota and refused to buy one of their vehicles
86,904.5 km
F.O.R.D. = “Found on Road Dead” or “Fix or Repair Daily“ here in the States
Hahahahaaaa...
First on race day
Pennsylvanians don't wanna accept it hard
Found on rubbish dump
H.O.N.D.A Horse Octopus Nagging Deer Ass
That's why I never liked ecoboost engines they are dull and sound horrible
Ranveer Singh Sangha all the new turbo engines sound bad
Ranveer Singh Sangha They sound like a V6
dull? what ones have you driven lmao
Tom Jardine Oh really, not like it is a damn V6
It is not bad but turbos add complexity to an already complex internal combustion gasoline engine
Got a Ford Everest back in 2017. Just glad to know the 2.2L TDCi engine has been around since 2006. I hope it's gonna be a good engine for many years.
It's a good engine designed by PSA. I've done 300k now and zero problems
@@w.k.7277 thanks, buddy. Good to know.
The dust on that steering wheel is triggering my ocd. Seriously thou, I’m kinda regretting buying my 2.0t ecoboost Focus st. 😅
You guys should sue Ford!
This Isn’t The United States 🇺🇸
Well they do say ford stands for Found On Road Dead
😂
Fix or repair daily
For old retired dicks
Fiat's are bad too ... Fix It Again Tommorow!!
And in one case, that was the driver from South Africa...
wish we could have a range of best 90s or even 80s cars still in production atleast on from every manufacturer \
Nice work for the Inside-Out team. Check out what is going on in Australia and their problems with Ford.
And The United States 🇺🇸 And Canada 🇨🇦
They managed to sue Ford for the powershit fiasco but why can't we in the UK? I've tried contacting Which? but they don't want to know
There were a couple youtube videos documenting a similar cylinder head issue with Ford Focus engines here in the U.S. a little while back.
#1 mistake.. you bought a ford car.
LOL!
Not as worse as buying a Smart Fortwo. However I’ve seen better from Ford and Lincoln and I think Ford should really work on this whole engine problem.
Master Jim 2020 modern cars in general don’t last as long as cars from 90s and early 2000s. they are too technological and they are being too bold with the engineering especially with the use of turbos in the ecoboost cramming them into tiny ass spaces making a shitton of heat this is why i drive a toyota corolla LOL and i have driven fords with ecoboost they are actually pretty nice but i care more about reliability and having basic transportation so
MrHeman2025 I’ve driven my Mom’s Lincoln MKT (which also has a Ecoboost Engine) and it drives pretty well, although I think it’s a little bigger than what it’s supposed to be. Practicality is a big deal for me, as well, but I prefer some bigger cars than smaller cars. So I drive a 2015 Buick Encore, or the Opel/Vauxhall Mokka in Europe, which is a little big but not as big as my Mom’s Lincoln. (You’re probably wondering what Lincoln is, since they probably don’t sell Lincoln models in Europe, but Lincoln is Ford’s luxury division.)
Master Jim 2020 oh yeah i know about lincoln and yeah i agree the ecoboost cars drive well i have driven the escape and the fusion both great crossover and car respectively and yeah i love big cars too but it’s just that i drive a lot and gas mileage is important to me, hence the corolla and i think it’s a smart idea for ford to stop selling cars here in the states because when i think of ford i think of the f series and the econoline vans
Has anyone in Australia had their 1.6 EcoBoost updated under recall? I was contacted 18 months ago by Ford and told they were waiting on parts...haven't been contacted since. My ST hasn't suffered loss of coolant however and doesn't run hot.
The problem is with the newer ecoboost which essentially has to work a lot harder to produce the power it needs. I believe it is also a 3 cylinder engine. When you buy a car avoid a turbo charged engine and opt for a normal 4 cyclinder
Nothing wrong with a turbo charged engine. As long as it’s not a Ford unit.
the problem is with the engine block, wet belt and coolant lines (an old problem) which were made of plastic. The engine otherwise can handle it perfectly fine ford just made some shitty decisions