The TRUE Cost of Ownership of my LX470 Makes My Head Hurt.😬
2023 ж. 25 Нау.
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100 Series Land Cruisers are the most reliable vehicles on the planet ..... right? Well, maybe, but that DOESN'T mean they are cheap to own.
In this video, I tally up ALL my expenses from the 3+ years I have owned my Lexus LX470, and the results were a bit of a shock.
Do you own a 100 Series Land Cruiser / LX470? If so, I'd love to hear what YOUR cost of ownership has looked like. Is my experience similar to what you've experienced? Let me know in the comment below...
'06 LC 100 - Ownership this year has been a bit brutal due to a long trip where the steering rack needed replacement. Took it to a dealer being so far from home. Turned out the replacement part was a reman'd one and blew apart the entire steering system. Still going through warranty repairs to get the old gal back on the road. Pry about $10k into repairs that will need to be recouped once the warranty is fulfilled.
Ouch! Glad to hear it's warrantied at least!
Have an 04LC. Purchased in 2019 with 185k miles and now at 307k miles. I am the 5th owner and all previous owners dealer maintained it which I continued. Not counting last year and this year this vehicle averaged $1700/year in maintenance (including preventative). For it’s 300k birthday I’ve spent $9k going through it replacing all bushings and mounts. The only issue that came up was the alternator (once) on a road trip, and that got handled in a day. Mine takes regular unleaded and average 15.6mpg, obviously mostly highway driving.
Mine's definitely similar. It's not an economical vehicle by any definition! I've owned my '04 for 5 years now - bought at 182k and I've just put 23k on it since as I don't do many long trips. I've spent $3800 in routine maintenance (including tires), $9500 in repairs (steering rack and failed cat, axles, driveshaft, plus much more to replace worn original parts), and about 7800 on upgrades (sliders, skids, front bumper, lift, audio, etc.). I tend to do the easy stuff myself and have a shop do the more complicated jobs just due to time constraints, so that accounts for a good chunk of those costs too. All-in, I'm sitting at a bit under $35k over 5 years including the $13.5k purchase. That includes everything except fuel and insurance. Having fixed so much on it, the longer I keep it the cheaper it's becoming annually!
When I purchased my 01 lx in 2021 it had 428k miles on it. It has 453k now. The previous owner said it had been taken to the lexus dealership for literally everything. He wasn't joking. I got the service writer to email me all of the service records for the vehicle. Between 2006 and 2016 it had almost 65 THOUSAND DOLLARS in service work. Mostly $300 oil changes. It was considered a company vehicle for the owners llc. He owned and operated a tech company in Birmingham. He drove it from there to LA multiple times a year racking up all of the miles.
😂 I would love to be this guy’s mechanic. Put all my kids through college.
Are you any good? And what's your labor rate? 🤣
I owned an LX470 for 22 years. This was the least expensive car to maintain that I ever owned. Water pump at the same time as the timing chain, and regular oil/gas/brakes/tires expenses. Literally nothing else ever. And when I sold it (dumb me, needed a bed truck for our dirt bikes) a couple of years ago it brought in a good chunk of money I did not think it would. So the total cost of ownership was almost non-existent spread over 22 years, with 100% reliability it provided us. Best vehicle I ever owned, and I should have kept it.
Did you do much off-roading with it? I think that has added quite a bit to our maintenance costs.
@@WheretoNextOverland I live in the mountains: so getting to the mountain rivers fishing spots, off-roading recreationally/for fun etc - a fair bit. Not extreme hardcore variants that’d kill any truck, but still something that gets you stuck in a river in 5-7 feet of water and needing another truck to pull you out kind of thing, rocks, climbs, crossing big logs etc. But I did most of the maintenance myself DIY and I have a car lift to do it. The truck is very easy to work on, great access to everything, parts made to last. When I sold it even the hydraulic suspension still functioned properly and I never needed to replace it. I did need to clean the rust off the hight position sensor contacts once or twice when I noticed uneven auto-height at the truck corners.
It doesn’t have a timing chain.
My daughter drives a 1998 with 221k. Bought it 4 years ago with 205k. We spent $4500 when we bought it on most of what you’ve done minus the brake booster. We just had the rear u-joints replaced, steering bushing and the ahc replaced with passive shocks new springs and torsion bars. After watching your video I just told my wife and daughter that we’ll keep it forever. I’ll be replacing the front seats leather here in the next month. We’ve also replaced the drivers window motor and the main window switch. It’s a great vehicle. My daughter thinks it’s the coolest car. Great videos!
This comment is great additional insight for anyone considering 100 series cost of ownership. Thanks for sharing! I need to do the seat leather as well. Have you figured out where you're gonna source the new covers from?
@@WheretoNextOverland I found mine on eBay and took the old leather off and put the new one on myself.
@John Edmunds IV nice! How big of a chore was it to do? I've heard it can be a pain
@@WheretoNextOverland I only had to do the lower cushion of the driver seat as it had rip and tear. The upper part (which looked like it would be tough) was fine so I didn't have to replace The lower one was ripped so I think it was a 1-2 hour job. my leather expert buddy painted the top to match!
@@JohnEdmundsIV that's not bad at all. I've toyed with the idea of doing the same (bottoms only)
Doing most of it yourself is the way to go. Just did the radiator myself for $200 in parts and just did the coil packs in 30 minutes this weekend. In the end you can save thousands doing the easy stuff...some I admit I cannot do but worth it.
Yeah, I've done a handful of smaller jobs and I've gotta say, 100's are pretty darn easy to work on. The big stuff though....nah.
@@WheretoNextOverlandplugs and coil shouldn't be a big job no?
@@lumiapixel1241just did mine for cheap!
@@lumiapixel1241 its an hour max with some sweat.
@@WheretoNextOverland I've done some extensive work on my 01 LX470 and I've hated working on it. I've owned an 08 Land Rover LR3 that I also maintained myself and it was so much easier to work on. That doesn't mean I hate my LX470 it just means I wish it was in fact easy to work on lol.
Great video. Thanks for all the info. I know it sounds expensive, but with how outrageous new vehicle prices are nowadays, seems like maintaining an older vehicle is very much the wiser financial decision. Subbed!
Thank you! Yeah it's definitely interesting to compare the cost to maintain an older vehicle like this vs the cost of a similar new vehicle payment ...
As always, so incredibly thorough and well organized! Great video!
Thanks man, appreciate it!
Just stumbled across your channel - great stuff. You'll obviously get a chunk of that back if you end up moving on sooner rather than later, otherwise you'll be set for some time. Bought our 04 LC in 2010 w/78k and not ready to let it go w/182k even after dumping $5k into it this year. Cost of ownership over 13 years has been very reasonable when you factor in reliability, resale value, etc. We also had a similar experience with an 80 series that we owned for 7 years. Keep those videos coming!
Thanks for the kind words! I agree with you that the cost to maintenance has been very worth it. After all, at 260k+ miles and 23 years old .... our LX still drives like new, which is beyond impressive .... especially considering all the offroad miles that we've put on it since buying it.
‘Lack of depreciation compared to its new or used comparables” is how I similarly justify my Feb 2022 purchase of a low (85k) mileage 2007 LX 470. Not only is it nice to have a vehicle that’s hit its price bottom, but also the add-ons like custom racks and sleeper setups tend to get their value back if resold.
Agreed! The appreciation of LX470s since I bought mine has probably offset about 30% of the maintenence costs, so that helps!
Lucky guy
How much did you buy it for?
Well under $10K in 2019
I am the second owner of my ‘98 Purchased it with 212k miles. It now has 232k on the odometer. The owner had it maintained at a local mechanic after realizing the dealer was ripping him off. Since I have purchased the vehicle I have invested ~$4.5k into the rig replacing all of the suspension components, CVs, pre owned accumulators, steering rack, all fluids, brakes, rotors, battery, etc. Lucky for me, the previous owner did all of the standard engine maintenance both planned and preventative. (Timing belt, coils, plugs, AC compressor, Radiator, alternator, pulleys) At this point, the rig will outlive me. Just keep in mind the cost of fuel adds up
Thanks for sharing, my 2003 LX over 3 years were 6k plus. I’m a DIY but the parts are limited and costly. It’s overland built with over 10k of aftermarket parts now. 10-11 MPG mix driving’s still a very solid truck. I love it.
Yeah that's a good point .... even if you DIY everything, parts for these trucks aren't cheap. But the quality of those parts is definitely evident in how long they last. Every time I replace something I think "well, that's probably the last time I'll need to address this". At least that's what I tell myself. Haha
10 MPG?? Jesus Christ.
Thank you for this channel. I bought a GX470 about 2.5 years ago at peak pandemic. My due diligence was bad and i am certain I have you beat on repair bills though I am affraid to actually add them up. Currently faced with my biggest job and have been thinking of pulling the plug and getting something new. Now i think maybe I will stay the course. Great channel.
Thanks for the kind words, glad to hear you're enjoying the channel. I totally get how frustrating all the repair bills can be, but I'm convinced that these things are worth it to keep going!
235k miles on my LC and it sounds like ive been pretty lucky! Alternator, bushings in the front end and center diff and some miscellaneous things ive done personally. Now that you've had it for a few years im sure youre caught up on some of these costs and im willing to bet its going to be cheaper down the road.
just chanced upon your channel. i have a 99 LX470 in the philippines for overlanding. great content and I like your delivery and editing. just subscribed
Thanks! How's the overlanding in the Phillipines? My wife and I were there in 2019. Can't wait to go back!
@@WheretoNextOverland growing overland community here. also a small LX community :)
Thanks for this video! I feel you on this. I try to do something’s but I daily mine and some jobs I can’t do. I bought a 2000 LC with 293k miles for 5500 in 2020 and by 2021 after a year and a month of ownership put about 9k in maintenance totaled it (not my fault) so that good thing there was we got like 14,500 back in insurance and was at 301k and call that a win since I got all the money put into it back. Then bought an LX470 with AHC with 208k for 13k and love the LX version. Been pretty good to me since the starter was already done was a win! Just had a shop do AHC flush and LBJs,UBJs and outer tie rod for 2k. I fear brake booster and radiator are next. Rock sliders will keep getting the back burner. Love the channel!
Oh, wow ... isn't it crazy how much the value of these things climbed between when you bought your LC and your LX?? Glad to hear you're enjoying the channel! A big Utah adventure is coming soon ... 😃
This is hilarious. I just dropped 6 grand on my 00lx470 with 240k that I bought in 19. My wife and I, the 9th owner of this truck, are tired of all the cash we're throwing at it so we tallied it up. Bought for 5600 and did almost exactly everything you listed (no starter and no radiator issues). Add to your maintenance list 1200 for 33s, a grand for a roof rack and 350 for paint and clear coat (painted it myself) and we're totaling around 25k. Although we're tired of the money spending, we absolutely love the truck. Thank you for making this video. It's exactly what we needed to remind us why we own it. Fingers crossed the maintenance costs settle down. Here's to a great summer of wheeling the Colorado Rocky Mountains with our five kids! Ps forgot to mention I'm pulling a 5x8 box trailer daily for work and getting a whopping 8.5mpgs 😁😵💫🤑
Haha, wow, yeah ... lots of parallels there. I didn't dare include the cost of modifications ... that would've moved the needle quite a bit. But still, 100% worth it to drive a 100!
Thanks! There are a few in my area for sale. Gonna cross those of the maybe list.
A lot of what you had done is pretty easy to do yourself. Brake pads & rotors are super easy, and only a couple of hours job. Also when you DIY, you do all the stuff that you “really should do” all at once, so you don’t have to pay for the same disassembly multiple times. As i see it, it gets you more in touch with the vehicle. My guess is DIY would be 1/3 to 1/2 of the cost of a shop doing the work.
Rears are easy. Fronts are not.
This is why you should learn how to maintain and fix (at least the easy to moderate items) yourself. I had the dealers and other mechanics maintain my vehicles (4Runner, GX470, and LX570) a decade ago. After realizing that their labor rates are way high and work is sometimes shoddy (missing/stripped bolts, dented gas tank skid from jacking the entire vehicle on it when it has a frame to jack from), I started to learn to do the work on my own. I started with changing my own oil in 2014 to being able to do timing belt/water pump/thermostat, alternators, suspensions, etc... All of the preventive maintenance are easily done and will save you a ton of money. Plenty of guides and KZhead videos out on the internet to teach yourself. Even if you end up buying tools, you will still save money. Plus have the necessary skills to do trail repairs. The total component cost since 2014 for all 3 vehicles are less than $5000. That include timing belts on the 4Runner, GX470, aftermarket suspension rebuilt by Radflo, all oils (engine, differentials, transmission), filters (to include cabin air filter, engine oil filter, air intake filter, transmission filter), coolant fluids, radiators on the 4Runner and GX, brake pads, supercharger rebuild on the 4Runner, tie rod replacement on the GX470, MAF sensor replacement, CV boot replacement on the 4Runner and GX470, AHC fluid replacement/bleed on the LX570, etc... I do 99 % of the labor on my own time since I don't need to drive all 3 at once (so we always have a spare vehicle until my oldest start driving) and I am not a professional mechanic. I have a full time job and a big family so getting a reliable/dependable vehicle saves me a lot of time (from constantly having to work on them). Previously owned a Jeep XJ and had to constantly work on that plus my friend's Land Rover Discovery II. It got old working on those instead of going on trips... The 4Runner, GX, and LX have served our family well and kept the cost down while allowing us to experience the outdoors. The surprising thing is that my 4Runner total cost of ownership is double our GX470 and triple our LX570, probably due to the supercharger mods. The LX570 is our most reliable vehicle, literally the only maintenance I do is differential, engine oil, transmission oil, AHC fluid, coolant fluid, and brake pads changes when it hits those miles. The only real downside to the Toyota body of frame vehicles is the fuel economy, especially when you put bigger tires and roof stuff. Fuel cost over ~ two decades cost me way more than the maintenance and labor cost I put in. TLDR: Teach yourself how to work on your own vehicles = save yourself a ton of money and dealer/mechanic ripoff
Lots of good info and valid points here. I've worked on my vehicles before, and I've done work to the LX as well. Ultimately though, time is my most precious commodity, and I value it greater than just about anything. Spending a weekend in the garage wrenching (and bleeding and swearing) doesn't bring me joy like it does for a lot of people. As such, I'd rather not sacrifice that time. And yes, I'm grateful to be in a position where I can do that!
Great video. Thanks enlightening what still will likely need to be done & spent when you buy a cheaper older car
Thanks! Yeah, and even more so when most of the older cars mileage are off pavement haha
We have a 2006 LX470 with 251k! We have owned this vehicle for 18 months. We have spent $6.2K in maintenance. We average 17 mpg for combined traveling of approximately 20K miles. Our mileage is mostly highway travel! We live in a mountainous region of Ca and have encountered several snowy days of driving! Our LX 470 has been a joy to own! For what it provides and with the initial cost we have saved money when compared to the purchase of a newer more expensive vehicle!
Oh, what I would give to get 17 mpg! 🤣 Totally agree with you that, compared to a newer & more expensive vehicle, it's a great value. Sounds like your maintenance costs have been roughly on par with what we've seen given how long you've owned it. But hey, with proper maintenance, these things will last forever!
I purchased my 100series from an auto auction back in 2018 for $4200 with 198K. Previous owner left The maintenance records, owners manuals, and extra keys in the vehicle. I verified the maintenance records with Lexus and the the vehicle was maintained all the way until 2015 when it was finally given up for auction. I still have the old registration from the previous owner so I look them up and they're from northern California and their house was worth almost 2 million dollars so something tells me they upgraded. I turn my own wrenches, and I've done a lot of work to the vehicle since including a ironman off road front bumper, 555 ball joints upper/lower, timing belt service with valve cover gaskets, 555 tie rods, refurbished steering wheel, and KO2 tires. Currently has well over 200k and runs smooth. Future projects are OME suspension, snorkel, rear bumper upgrade.
Wow, what a find that was!
I bought my 2000 LC used about 7 years ago ($7k) with 180k miles. Now it has 288k on it. Completely stock. The only thing it has needed besides normal wear stuff like tires, battery, and front brake pads is rear brakes ($150 diy), fan clutch/pulley ($200 diy) and timing belt ($600 shop). I plan to do some upgrades with suspension, but it doesn’t Need anything. Very reliable paid for car with low maintenance costs and great in the mountains where we live. Just high fuel cost, but with a family of 6 what more can you ask for?
Good honest review 😢I want one 🎉
Thanks! They are well worth owning
Great video. I am a 23 year 1 owner of a 100 LC. I am also looking at 4Rs. I love My LC but it really has to be a 3rd car for it to rationalize. If you need a daily driver but also want to adventure the 4r is probably the better choice unless you love to tinker.
Yeah, I'd probably have to agree (assuming the 4R is a lot newer than the LC).
Yerp, feel ya on this one. I’ve done some very small things myself, but we have the same limitations. No driveway or garage to do my own work, and honestly my time could be better spent making money to pay for the things we need done. We just had the CV axles replaced, parts and labor came out to about 1500 for new OEM axles. But we love our 100!
Just cross your fingers that you don't have to do the brake booster assembly! BTW, how many miles so you guys have on your Cruiser?
@@WheretoNextOverland I willfully ignore that…I don’t wanna jinx it 😂 we’ve got just about 245k
@@ScaleofTwo hahaha. I kinda ignored the occasionally terrible noises it made for the past year ... but an impending trip to Utah scared me into replacing it. Steep shelf roads + dodgy brake booster seemed like a bad idea. Haha
325k on our 01 LC. Perfect compression and the transmission/diffs are all functioning perfectly. They’re truly amazing machines.
They are, for sure! Despite the costs, the fact that our 260k+ mile LX still runs and drives like new is beyond impressive ..... ESPECIALLY considering the use-case we have for it (a lot of offroad miles)
Thanks for your great informative video…own a year 2000 LC101 1HD-FTE, currently at 480k km, had replaced all bushings that can be replaced (upper & lower arms, stabilizer bars bushings, rear suspension bushings, front axle bushings, steering rack bushings, body frame bushings) upper & lower arms ball joints, front wheel bearings, drive shaft boots, steering rack boots, tie rods and tie rod ends, radiator, AHC motor serviced, all accumulators, all absorbers, rear springs, brake calipers serviced, all for about USD 5,000, original toyota parts (except ball joints), the cost exclude the regular maintenance of engine oil & filter, diesel filter, air filter, ATF, transfer case oil, front & rear axle oil, AHC oil. Here’s the upcoming things to be done: rear disc rotor has hairline cracks (might replaced all 4 with DBA performance rotors), intercooler hoses, EGR delete. We are just refurbishing the cruiser to its original state, for another 20 years of service 😄
Heck yeah! Do all that work and she'll be good yo go for another 400km!
For a top shap lancruiser not bad... Had a VW Touareg v10 TDI where I thought that would be the Ultimate truck to do EVERYTHING. Ho ho boy on a $130, k and 7 yrs driving it with a $34,k of maintenance & still need it a lot to do to have it in petfect shape. I decided to let it go when of the turbo started to let go a second time. So I think you'er doing well with a one of the best that will take you there & back. Enjoy it
Good information. Thank you!
Hope it was insightful ... it definitely was for me when I totalled everything up haha
@@WheretoNextOverland All part of the overlanding experience. Better to get all that 100% then breakdown out in the middle of nowhere. I’m doing my research as I would like to get LX470 sometime in the future. I been watching your channel and got a lot of great info thanks again.
@Chris F that's for sure! Last thing I need is a breakdown in the middle of the Utah backcountry in a few weeks ... or a failing brake booster on a steep shelf road!
Thank you for sharing. I have a 2002 Land Cruiser that lives in San Francisco. In a garage. I never take it on rocky boulder roads, and just run Michelin all weather tires factory spec. I have 276,000 miles, doesn't use oil. Nothings been done to suspension or drive train, other than lubrication, alignments with tire changes. I have done many of those other repairs like radiator alternator and one number five spark plug that blew out, $600 repair by a senior mechanic. I go to Creative Automotive in San Rafael. Very honest shop. The dealer wanted $10,000 to do that repair. Creative uses Toyota parts, and all of the repairs are quite reasonable, similar prices to yours, definitely cheaper than a Mercedes. I got it as a temporary vehicle ended up keeping it, because it's so smooth and quiet, especially with proper sized Michelin's. I bought it with 185,000 miles on it. Did the timing belt when I made the purchase three years ago. Fortunately I have a short commute, gas mileage is ridiculous but it sure is a nice ride. If I have to go long distances I use a 2005 highlander, 2 Wheel Dr. 6 cylinder.
Sounds like it is just getting broken in!
You have really invested a lot, I think must has to do with the cost of labor, I have an Lx470 from 2002, I have managed to lower the cost by carrying out the simplest maintenance myself, I also installed a modern gas system. LPG and that has saved me 40% on fuel.
I almost had to do the exact same repairs. I bought a used 100 series a few months ago but the old owner did not take care of any maintenance but on the flip side it had very low mileage for a 2002. I paid a $10,000 bill as well but hoping it’s the first and last time!
oof that price breakdown hurt . I just purchased an 06 LC with 300k on it last year and right out the gate I had to replace the manifold gasket,O2 sensors, breaks and rotors,struts,swaybar and the upper and lower control arms that was about 5k worth repairs and just last month my A/C compressor just gave out. But will i do it all again....... IN a heartbeat I love my LC every time I drive i feel like I'm king of the road. my goal is to ride the 06 for 3 more yrs then get the new 2024 LC .love your channel cant wait for more Reviews on the New LC !!!
Looking at a LX 470 with 246k miles. Seems good, $6000 ish, owner says no rust, timing belt recently replaced, only negatives are a cracked windshield and seats need to be replaced. Other than that, good shape. Is it worth the leap you say? Says no leaks or anything?
Great video! Toyotas are very reliable and really don't need that much maintenance compared to a LOT of other manufacturers. Pretty much everything will need to be replaced at some point or another. I feel like on that vehicle, or Toyota trucks in general, there are quite a few things that you'll need to replace around the 150k mile mark (probably why most people sell them around that). Some of that stuff I would probably take to a mechanic because of time or whatever reason (like the starter haha... it is a pain on those engines) but it ALWAYS helps to at least know how to do it. You have an awesome Land Cruiser, don't get discouraged about having to replace a few things. I owned an '01 tundra for a while and did just about everything you had on your list. Most of it I did myself and saved literally thousands of dollars. Some of it, I would not do again (like the headers), but most of it is really simple and easy and might even save your a$$ when you're out in the middle of nowhere.
I think you're spot on with the 150k mile mark being around the time where a lot of things need to be replaced. Anecdotally, and from what I see on the forums, the 250k mark seems to be another time where a lot of the OEM stuff wears out. Which is pretty damn impressive honestly!
@@WheretoNextOverland Right?! My dad is a big Ford guy (and not to knock on Ford), but he'll buy 'em new and sell them around the 70k mark, because that's when things start needing to be replaced. And like you mention in the video, resell value alone on the Toyotas is enough for me to ease all the pain of repairs. Haha
@@shaun77r The problem is: when you own a vehicle for years, it kind of become part of the family. Not always easy to get rid of them. At that point, taking care of it is a must and also cheaper than buying another vehicle. Sentimentality and passion...
Lexus GX same thing. 90k services. air suspension. SAIS system. crap radiators. front driveshafts and wheel bearings. All pricey. But worth it. Drove our 15 year old 470 to Cabo San Lucas and back at Christmas. Zero issues.
Not bad of an amount, I mean considering the mileage of the car and the places you have been taking the rig, without hiccups except that radiator at Death Valley.
Hi there! Currently looking into buying an LX470 and I’m wondering if there truly is any difference between the 2005 and 2006-2007 versions aside from the 50 hp bump
Bought my 2003 in 2019, this year is regular gas so thats a plus, so far....only major expenses as of 4-2024 has been new rack and pinion and hoses to power steering pump $1300 and $500 for recharge and then replace a leaking AC line. Bout it for $14K out the door....not bad. Had impeccable dealer maintenance records every 5K miles since new........I have 214K miles on it....probably worth what I have into it. In excellent condition..
I have an 04 limited sequoia and Iv done all the exact same repairs except brake booster. Makes me feel a lot better knowing I wasn’t the only one to have to fix these issues. And mine only has 225k miles on it.
From what I've seen, it seems like a lot of these repairs creep into play around the 200 -250k mileage mark. Can't really be too mad to have to replace an original part at that mileage I suppose! Haha
@@WheretoNextOverland makes me wonder if I should purchase a land cruiser with 270k miles or more next time so these repairs will already have been made 😅
Thanks for giving me the absolute worst case scenario for cost of ownership. I now know that’s the ceiling.
I mean, it's more than average, but definitely not the ceiling for a 100. But still, 100% worth it!
Love it how he compared to a 4 runner because the was the cheaper dream vehicle for end of year sale, and yes I agree reliable is amazing but I have more than 1 car.. soo it’s fuel I need, the other cars are decent so need to worry as heavy but they are old
I do my own work on all my cars and have saved lots of cash. I don't have time either, but I make time and learn in the process. Having this particular truck is nice to have, but only if you can afford to pay for maintenance like you do. Or do it yourself.
One of the reasons that it is expensive to repair is BECAUSE it is so overbuilt. I bought mine with 325,000 miles, and have 338,000 miles on it now. I have baselined it myself with all fluids and new heater tees (the tees are essential maintenance because they’re high failure), but had the shop do front breaks and one front wheel hub, the radiator, and bought new tires.
You are correct on that! Most of the parts I've replaced have been the original OEM parts that are JUST now failing. Thats proof that they are overbuilt (and explains why they're expensive to replace)
recommend checking out j120 Prado or the GX470 they are bit more compact and lighter they are bit more easy on the wallet if there any one looking for a old Land Cruiser. j90 is very retro and very friendly for the new home mechanic
You need to do your own service and repairs, farm it out if you earn a hefty hourly rate. You need to know your vehicle inside out if you travel into out of the way places.
You should have bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Mine is a 2015. 3 inch lift. 12 inches of ground clearance, Falken 285-70-17 AT4w tires. Full time 4 wheel drive with 4lo. 4 wheel independent suspension for a VERY plush ride. and gets 19 MPG in town and 22 MPG freeway. Cheap to own, cheap to fix. I have owned this rig for several years. The only money spent on it was for 17" wheels and, bigger tires besides fuel. Another thing, the Grand Cherokee has two fuel tanks. It holds 24 gallons !! I can drive 500 miles between fill ups !!Oh and by the way, a Grand Cherokee brake master cylinder is $176.99 and is in stock at my local O'Reilly's. (Yelm,WA)
I think the Grand Cherokee is an under-rated platform for adventure travel. Those are a lot of pros!
Thanks for this great video. Exactly what I was looking for. I'm inheriting a '99 100 series which my parents were original owners. Fortunately, this only has a little over 100k miles on it, and has been garaged it's who life and never off road. It's a great vehicle in fantastic condition. I know I'm lucky. But I was concerned about maintenance costs. I expect we will only put 5k to 7k miles on it per year. I have been back and forth on whether we should keep or sell the truck. I'm leaning more and more towards keeping it. Thanks again!
If it were me, I'd keep it! If you're gonna use it mostly for on-road duty, I don't imagine the maintenance costs would be anything like mine have been. If you plan to use it quite a bit for offroading, that'll probably increase what you need to do
@@WheretoNextOverland exactly my thoughts. It will be on road 98%. Have a Jeep and F150 for the offroad duties. Thanks
Na, You're looking at future high cost maintanance. Just sell it to me instead...
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Thanks for this very informative video. I like your content, including this one, but now I'm sad. I found a 100 series LC that I thought I might sell my 2003 Sequoia Limited for but not anymore. You might have helped me dodge a bullet!
Unfortunately, so many of the 100 series I came across when I was looking for ours were neglected, at least in terms of having a lot of deferred maintenance to deal with. Based on my experience, and that of others here in the comments, it definitely seems that it can take a good deal of $$$ to get one back into great shape mechanically (especially in the first few years of ownership). They're great, but Sequioas aren't bad either!
Christopher, Lx470 is and always Will remain LX. A Sequoia will never be a LX. All depends on your passion for the LX470. Sequoias are everywhere for cheap...👇👎🏿👎👎🏽
I've spent about $8k on mechanical maintenance on my FZJ80 over the last year/20k miles between the Head gasket/top end rebuild, knuckle rebuild, and AC repairs.
The maintenance you’ve done on the vehicle is lasting. Using OEM parts resets the clock somewhat.
Yeah, no doubt! Most of the parts I've replaced have been the original OEM part from what I can tell. So, assuming the (OEM) replacement parts last the same amount of time, I'll be good to go for a looooooong time!
I own a 2007 LC (bought new) with 245K miles on the clock. I've had it serviced every 5K miles, and keep all my service records. The only repair (as opposed to regular maintenance) in the first 170K miles amounted to $400 for a water pump that needed replacing at 60K miles. Since then, I've had a variety of old age issues that have indeed cost quite a bit of money - so I've decided it's time to buy a new daily driver. But I love my Cruiser and will keep it as an extra vehicle. One suggestion, based on having just had to replace the (very expensive) steering rack: look around on the internet for Toyota dealers that sell OE parts at a discount. The five dealers closest to me here in Santa Barbara all wanted over $1000 for the rack, plus $200 or $300 for the tie rod ends. Instead I ordered from a dealer I found online who sold me the parts (including tax and 2 day shipping) for $930. With standard shipping, it would have been about $100 cheaper. They arrived as promised in two days, nicely packaged and in perfect shape.
Thank you for this comment. Great tip as well!
What daily are you planning to replace your Land Cruiser with?
@@WheretoNextOverland You’re welcome! I hope you continue to enjoy your LX470…despite the cost. And be glad you didn’t buy a Range Rover - because that would REALLY be expensive to own!
@@sharduljagtap6521 Hopefully something that gets better gas mileage! So many interesting new vehicles appearing in 2024. I like the look of the new Honda Prologue, but might well be tempted by the new Lexus GX revealed last week. A practical and great looking vehicle, sort of a modern take on the Land Cruiser. Unfortunately the twin-turbo V6 it shares with the new Tundra and Sequoia (here in the US) gets lousy gas mileage. If they make it available as a hybrid, that would be my choice for sure. But I’ll miss having a proper tailgate like the one on my LC.
1 gen sequoia 4X , 350 K on chassis... last owner did engine /trans R+R 100 k ago about 2 grand... few other things... last 5 years i gave it some brakes.. battery... few dents... still wheelin as a work truck... threw out 200 lbs of back seats! never looked back.
Any regrets or do-overs regarding your LX470? Now that used car prices are starting to drop, I'm peeking into getting an overland vehicle. On that list are LX470, GX470, Land Cruiser and LR3. Would LOVE something that got better mpg, but a $55k+ new Land Cruiser is probably out of reach. So would you buy the LX470 again, knowing what you know now @WheretoNextOverland?
That's a good question. I would say no regrets. For the price I paid for the LX and for all the places it's taken us over the past 4 years, it really has been just about the perfect tool for the job. I still enjoy driving it each time I hop in. Ultimately, still a lot cheaper than a new vehicle would've been over that time .... and the cost to maintain I think is largely due to how we use it (wirh the bulk of the miles being off-road) I'd buy it again if I were in the same position I was when we bought it!
Thanks for the quick replay @@WheretoNextOverland . It is early in the PNW! Love your channel and so happy I discovered it. Keep the videos coming please...even though some are bittersweet as I remember our years in WA and long to return to the PNW.
@@cabellwestbrook3349 thanks for the feedback and kind words, glad you're enjoying the videos. We'll keep 'em coming for sure :)
@WheretoNextOverland have you considered doing a "what to look for when purchasing a 100 series?" video? Or if you have, please shoot me the link! Thanks.
I have thought about it, but haven't filmed one yet. I agree that it would be a good topic for a video though!
This one might be good enough - kzhead.info/sun/q9iQibyXqoyje6M/bejne.html - but would still love to see one from you@@WheretoNextOverland
Older cars are expensive no matter the make and model with toyotas and hondas being more reliable. Those Lx and landcruisers are great cars. I had that e39, actually two of them which I wrecked, they never ate my wallet and were pretty reliable machines. I still miss them. My next ride is gonna be an Lx 09-13. I have seen those for 25k give or take and I will do simple jobs like oil change by myself. Its gonna be specifically an adventure vehicle.
Yeah, there's just no way around having to deal with extra maintenance on older vehicles. Especially true when we talk about the mileage most of these 100 series have seen. Great call on looking at an early LX570. I've been keeping an eye on the prices as well, and they're getting to the point where they're pretty tempting! Oh, and as for the E39 .... it was a great car ..... when it worked. Unfortunately, mine was a bit of a disaster 😕
Almost lost all credibility with me whe he showed one of the most reliable bmws ever made. Had 2 myself an both went over 250k miles with basic maintenance
V8 or I6? I had a 540i that was an unmitigated disaster at 100k miles. And don't get me started on the Vanos issues of the E39 M5s.
@@WheretoNextOverland mine were a 528 and 525. I liked a 528 better for more power and linear pull. I currently have a 550 and a ford
very interesting video. the total lack of depreciation makes it worth it IMO. people really forget about that cost. the fuel economy stinks though lol, im sure at 5-6 bucks a gallon, it can get old
Thanks! You're right about the lack of depreciation. Definitely offsets the maintenence costs (and then some probably)
Watching this makes me realize that I am way to cheap. I have a 2005 gx470 that a lot of the parts interchange from the 100s. I replaced the timing belt and all parts associated with that. Replaced the Starter along with gaskets and hoses and what not associated with that. All in all it probably cost around 500 or so. It definitely pays to know how to work on your own cars. Totally get that not everyone is mechanically inclined or is intimidated by the nature of the repairs. Also. That shop should've covered the cost of those rack bushings from the remanufactured unit if they got it for you and installed it. I'm sure you paid a mark up on that part if they got it for you... that mark up is to cover if the part they got for you fails in some way.
Yeah, needing to replace the bushings was annoying. Different shop though, so not their fault.
VERY surprised you didn't get into timing belt/water pump service. Considering you described most of these services as "preventative maintenance;" that is arguably one of the most important services one can have done. I was CONVINCED that was going to be on your "most expensive" invoice. Imagine my surprise. I'll have to keep some funds set aside if I ever run into that issue w my 470. What were the symptoms of a failing brake booster assy?
Yeah, you're right about the importance (and expense) of the timing belt & water pump service. I'll need to do it this winter, as I'm pretty much right at 90k since it was last done.
There are many videos on how to do the timing belt and water pump on KZhead
Taking my LX into the shop tomorrow to get the master cylinder replaced. It is failing and it is my daily (though I do WFH). Also, stopping is maybe more important than going.
Yeah ... it sucks when it starts to fail ($$$), but it's not really one of those things you wanna put off for very long!
bro... you have a 23 year old luxury car that you beat the shit out of offroad and insist on having shops do all the work on. Yes, it is going to be expensive!! I do appreciate that you show that it is not realistic to go offroading in any car and expect it to just keep working perfectly like magic, because some people make toyotas seem that way. This does not mean the car is an unreliable money pit though
You're absolutely correct. Bear in mind, I never stated that it was an unreliable money pit .... just sharing an actual, real world experience when it comes to cost of ownership. Funny how facts rub some people the wrong way (not you .... just some of the comments in general)
I owned a 100 series (1999 LX) for 5 years, prior to getting a 200 series. Never had anything major go on it during that time, but I fully baselined all the fluids (including AHC), and did the timing belt/water pump shortly after purchase. Had to replace a coil pack. NOTE: the coil packs are literally a 5-10 minute procedure, so I just always had a spare in the glovebox, and brought a cheap code reader and engine firing map with me at all times. One 10mm bolt (quite literally) lol. Anyway I still stay in touch with the current owner too - He's FINALLY had the AHC system act up which cost him a bit of $$, but that's after 275k miles. These are awesome vehicles! Question - have you regularly changed your AHC fluid? Or had any issues with it?
Loved the video! but how much did you pay for the truck itself?
We paid a good bit under $10K back in 2019 .... which seems like a steal compared to today's pricing!
If I may suggest something, if your LX have appreciated in value by 50%, I would in a heartbeat sell it and put all of the funds towards a new 5th generation 4Runner. You will be able to keep the 4Runner for two decades and get all your money out. With the LX, it will be over 40 years in 20 years and you can’t daily with that kinda of age and mileage. Parts are going to be harder and harder to find for the LX and it will be so expensive as time passes.
i bought my 2006 in 2018 for 14.2k with 145000 miles now 2023 with 189000 miles i spent about 2800.00 on tires and repair with my good buddy mechanic lol i have alot of offer for 18k-19k all day long this is my second lx and our family of 5 love it wont sell it lol
I’m also in the PNW - shop recommendation? Edit: the comments here are pretty brutal. Some folks live in cities/condos and don’t have garages where they can freely work on their rigs. Time is valuable as well, to each their own. The important part is getting out and enjoying the outdoors.
Torfab is probably the 'gold standard' as far as a dedicated Land Cruiser shop in WA. I also really like Pacific Rim Automotive in Seattle. They seem to know 100's really well (the tech who works on mine owns a 100 himself) and there always seem to be Land Cruisers in their parking lot
Ouch. I have owned my 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee since 82,000 miles. It currently has 248,000 miles. So far I have replaced: Terrain Control Module = $890 A/C blend doors = $600 A/C compressor = $1100 Brakes (2x) = $1200 Total = $3800 Cost per mile = approx 2 cents Your cost per mile = 32 cents So your ownership costs are 16x worse than my Grand Cherokee. And that doesn't even take into consideration your fuel mileage. I average 19 mpg. My fuel cost over 250k miles is $39k Your cost over 250k miles would be $87k Just with the fuel savings alone, I could replace my Jeep three times and still come out ahead...
Ouch. Yeah, thanks for rubbing it in 🤣 Those are interesting numbers. Definitely bucks the stereotype of Jeep vs Toyota reliability / durability!
I had a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee and it was a mess. Control arms going out all the time and expensive to repair. Had to repair the radiator twice and had many hoses break and leak coolant. Expensive as hell to replace the coolant so often. Touch screen started yellowing and losing color so needed replacement. Always had oil leaks and would always cost +$500 to fix each oil leaks. The last straw with that truck was when the computer burnt the alternator which burnt the battery. Almost $1500. Oh yeah and spark plugs, I had V8, it was 16 spark plugs in that model. I won't like I enjoyed the truck but sure felt like a money pit sometimes. I always had Toyota or Hondas so maybe I am spoiled.
@@christopherdiaz1350 Mine was the V6. I think sometimes you just luck out. I've also owned a Dodge Cummins, which is supposed to be one of the most reliable vehicles ever made, and I had nothing but expensive repairs - go figure.
Oh yes…..you will pay a premium for this SUV….one thing for certain…you will never pass by a gas station. But it’s still worth it. 2000 L/C w/ 340,000.
If you factor in appreciation, which you have to if you’re doing a series financial analysis, this car is a no-brainer win!
For sure, the maintenance stings less knowing that I'm not losing value on the truck itself (though 100 series prices have come back down to earth a bit since their peak)
Have had my 100 LX for a good while now, only regular service ever needed
Damn, if only haha. Do you spend a lot of time off-pavement with it? I'm pretty convinced that if I didn't, my repair bills would be probably 25% of what they have been.
@@WheretoNextOverland mainly tarmac tank so not many hardcore off road adventures, just gentle/casual/easy off-roading but not like yours. The biggest expense was on the major 100k service but the truck has lived up to its reputation for sure
I dropped a $3k+ bill on the Expedition last month because literally everything was leaking underneath 😂 You ride these things hard, I don’t buy the idea that you wouldn’t have to drop some serious repair money on a new vehicle too, even under warranty.
Fair point .... but different things break & wear out older, higher mileage vehicles.
truth be told, for such high mileage vehicles this is not suprising. Especially since you guys are always on the road with it as well.
Yeah for sure. I mean we JUST got back from a 2 week, 3,000 mile trip and a LOT of those miles were off pavement. We definitely don't put a lot of "gentle" miles on our 100, so it makes sense that things need attention more often. Still .... I LOVE roadtripping and offroading in the LX. It serves us so well
Thanx!
looking at getting a LX470. What is that storage system in the back?
SHW Offroad Expedition Drawer System. Highly recommend!
Couple of folks mention, but here’s the thing. Buying a new car, even if you pay cash is $$$. I was getting ready to buy a new 60k car and up popped a nice hundy for around 20k. Between the interest (if getting a loan), the taxes, insurance, and depreciation, I decided to buy the 1999 Land Cruiser. Your 100 series would have to be uber expensive in gas and repairs to decide buying new is better. If you really look at the math, you can have the work done by a shop AND fill er up with premium for allot of years to make up that difference. Now I have a built 80 that I’ve owned, built, and maintained for 15 years, and the new 100. The 100 will have a nice mall crawling life while the 80 goes out there!
Totally agree. That was sort of the point I was trying to make towards the end of the video. Interestingly though, the math does start to make sense for a new vehicle if it can get at least double the MPG of our 100 (and added up over 15 years or so). That difference in MPG starts to negate the depreciation of a new vehicle, while maintenence expense makes up most of the rest of the difference.
Great video btw. It’ll be my guide going forward. The other factor that math won’t find is the smiles per mile. I just love these trucks. I love them for their just enough, bullet proof design. For their excellence in engineering. And Land Cruiser people are cool.😂. Thanks for doing these!
@carlospinero6248 thanks man! Totally agree. The only thing that's gonna tempt me out of a 100 Series Land Cruiser would probably be another (newer) Land Cruiser!
So, I went through your list. And if you did them yourself. It would have been about $2000. ($1600, plus 400 in miscellaneous funds)
Assuming you buy non-OEM or used parts from a junkyard, that seems possible. But for those of us who believe maintaining a 100 is (usually) best done with OEM parts, that number is gonna be much higher. Just using the brake booster assembly as an example .... the part alone is between $1,300 - $1,600. OEM steering racks aren't cheap either, etc etc. I suspect that number (for parts) would be closer to $5-6K ... but it would be an interesting exercise to add them all up
@WheretoNextOverland First, I appreciate your response and your 100 series content. 2nd, you stated you didn't have the ability to fix it yourself, which is perfectly fine, as not everyone has their own personal choices. But I found it an interesting comparison using diy with non OEM pricing. And I usually agree OEM is the best replacement. But most after-market parts come with warranties. And regardless of that, they usually last almost as long as oem and cost 2-4 times less. As with most things, it's a personal choice, and I'm glad you are taking care of your rig. Best of luck with it and your channel.
@Michael MEndenhall thanks man. Appreciate your perspective as well! I mean, I'll be honest ... I admire those who posess the time, tools, knowledge, and desire to do all their own maintenance, but it's just not my jam. For sure though, the costs I outlined in the video will be on the high end considering the cost for OEM parts and labor.
Owning a 2002 LX470, I can confirm the 12mpg. In my country, a liter of premium gas costs €2,30. However, I run the truck on LPG which is about €0,80/liter which makes the truck almost economical. Repairs is a constant drain of money as there is always something to repair or replace. I spent as least as much money as you did….Preventive action is key. Don’t forget to align your valves every 60k as this may cause a lot of engine errors. Yes it is an expensive car to run but at the same time it is the best car I had and want to keep it is as long as possible.
Agreed! I hope to keep ours for a looooong time!
Which model 5 series did you own ?
E39 540i Sport w/ a manual. Fun car .... until it became a basket case at 100k
Don't forget taxes and insurance are way cheaper per year than new vehicles, plus new vehicles need brakes and fluid changes as well.
All good points! The insurance could make up a hefty difference for a new 60K truck for sure
Car repair in the US is so expensive even the rear brake job thats insane
Can u tell us about the wheels and tyres man. They look expensive too But nice
Tires are 285/75/16 BFG K02's. Wheels are SCS F5's
Ok thanks they look good. I thought they might be the takumi wheels. Do u know if it’s a 0 offset. Thanks again
They are +10mm
Ok thanks
These are super expensive right now I'm Canada. Some people are charging north of 30k with 300k KMS 😂 I think my dream to own this is done.
Prices are starting to come down after they went crazy during COVID, at least in the US. Maybe they'll drop a bit up there soon!
Just curious what u think of lx450 compared to this on and off read. Lx and lc 80 is best looking I think...all of the things u replace could of have done yourself honestly. Your bill could of been used for another car
I love the 80 Series. I agree that they're the best looking. Pros and cons vs the 100 series for sure. I can't speak to cost of ownership though since I've never owned one. And yes, I am aware that I could've done most of the work myself. I choose not to.
I had a neighbor that was like u, he wouldn’t do any of the work himself and always went to the stealership, I try to do everything myself with factory parts ofcourse, labor is where they really stick it to u but hey like I told my neighbor if u have the money it’s cool I just don’t like getting taken advantage of but that’s just me 👍🏻
No front end? No timing...you have more bills.. Still love it.
Yep, timing belt & water pump will be next year. But at least those are totally e expected / forecasted expenses!
It’s all relative but in your opinion, is a 2000 LX470 with 75k original miles a better option over a 2006 LX470 with 180k miles for the same price. Just getting into it and still don’t know enough about the differences in the engine to know at what point one is better than the other.
Most people would probably say 2006 is a more desirable year than 2000, mostly due to the 06 having a 5 speed transmission and a bump in engine power. In my mind, I'd be looking at whichever one has been better maintained, is in the best shape overall, and has the least amount of rust. In my opinion, mileage isn't as important as overall condition and upkeep when it comes to 100's.
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I totally understand you not wanting to deal with it yourself and just taking it to a shop and that’s cool and all but you have to learn how to do these maintenance repairs yourself . Not only is it interesting to learn to use your brain and your hands on how to fix your own truck but also it will allow you to gain knowledge on the weak points and potential future issues that you will be able to resolve yourself even if you are thousands of miles away from home. For a small price $800-$1000 so you can buy yourself a small tool set that you can keep in the trunk of that vehicle for any potential emergency that you would need to remedy . I understand that everyone is different and you can continue to keep taking your truck to your preferred Toyota technician, but I highly recommend you start learning how to wrench on these things yourself .
Your point is valid, and especially true given that we are often in the middle of nowhere off road. I do bring a tool set and even a few spares (heater T's). I'm not TOTALLY helpless when it comes to working on a vehicle .... but it's also not a 'hobby' that I enjoy.
Yeah, owning these or the GX470 with high miles and age really is only cost-effective if you do your own work.
Can confirm! Haha
@@WheretoNextOverland But, if I never have to change out the brake booster again I'll be super happy. 🤣 That was a chore on my GX470 that I hope to never repeat.
don't forget to replace your heater tees!
No doubt. Forgot to mention it in the video but that was a job I did myself. Definitely wise to replace them before they give up (probably at the worst possible time)
I did all that my self with high quality performance parts and it cost me around 4k
How is value calculated? Is it supply and demand plus durability or what
Value on the used market seems to stem from their reputation for durability / reliability / capability. At least that's my take...
Seems Extreme. I own a LC 100 from 1999. I've had plenty of costs in upgrading the car to go overlanding, but hardly any repaires. Only the AHC was replaced by passive shocks. That system proved unreliable.
Funny enough, AHC is one of the things still going strong on ours (fingers crossed!)
How about hydraulic is it work or u change with landcruiser shock absorber
It's still on the factory hydraulic suspension. Working great!
Try replacing the VGRS that’s the real 🤯🤯🤯
Toyota products have ALWAYS been more expensive than anything north of Land Rover. They are superbly made, but not that easy to work on for the typical owner. Parts are like gold. That's the typical experince of the vast majority of owners. But, it is also true that the majority of owners have the bucks, and keep doing it. ENTER, the lowly, oft overlooked Jeep Grand Cherokee, 1st gen - 1993-1998. Not the Cherokee. Those have their own following, and deservedly so. But, until recently, the 1st Gen GC has been largely relegated to the soccer mom category. I can tell you theyare far more capable than going to the store in a rainstorm. Under the rather pedestrian body, is the power train of the AMC YJ/TJ/CJ-8. AMC built the best Jeeps ever produced, and Chrysler kept making them that way until they ran out of AMC parts. That's why there are so many still on the road - and on trails. As the world of 4x4 vehicles gets more and more expensive and complex, it is worth looking back - even far back - for lots of people. Many new trucks and Jeeps, etc., are now sitting on the lots, unable to be sold because theyare just too expensive. Too much to buy and too much to maintain. Even older Land Cruisers are very expensive used, and have the same issues of age that any other vehicle has. My solution for a comfortable, semi-lux, and supremely reliable 4x4 was a 95 Grand Cherokee. At half the price of a similar vintage Toyota, to goes everywhere the Land Cruiser will go. It's comparable to the Toyota 4 Runner of those years. Obviously not as stout because of its Unibody structure, but absolutely the equal in trail performance. Even better in some situations because of its solid axle 4x4 system, instead of the short travel independant Toyoya. There have no reported failures related to any Unibody vehicles since the early 1960's. A simple lift of 3" and 30x9.50x15 KO2's are all it needs for 80% of what a $75,000 Jeep can do. If you're looking for a Toyota but can't part with the money, consider a search for a nice GC. They are getting rare because the bad ones are long gone and the kids are wrecking them fast. But a nice one like mine is well worth the test drive.
DIY stuff is great until time is worth more than money.
100% this
It has been a while since a vehicle update. Has much changed with y’all?
@ethangatzke not too much has changed with the LX, but a few changes / upgrades are in the works
I don't think I heard the year and mileage when you purchased?
Bought it August 2019 at about 230K miles
Is it a 2000 or 2001?
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Just found a 2000 lexus 470, with 106k miles on it 19k price and having hard time not snagging it up.
Wow! That's crazy low mileage. Good price for the mileage I'd say!
@WheretoNextOverland yea, I'm just having a hard time trying to make myself part with my 2015 Tundra platinum.
There’s no cheap to own. Just cheaper to own.
He paid 95% of that cost in labor 😂 never in my life have a seen someone pay over a thousand for spark plugs and coils the parts are a cpl hundred bucks