When Will You Learn To Grow Up? - Mark Manson
Mark Manson is a best selling author, blogger and a movie star.
You're not supposed to just get older, you're supposed to mature as well. You're supposed to leave the juvenile patterns and beliefs and behaviours behind as you shed your past self like a wise awakened crab. So why do so many people get stuck in old habits, and how can they get out of them?
Expect to learn what most people don't understand about how relationships work, why so many men are enticed by Andrew Tate's message, what Mark thinks about the modern era of men's advice after being in the industry for over a decade, why he got depressed after a smash hit best selling book, how to deal with high standards for yourself and much more...
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00:00 Intro
00:45 What People Don’t Understand About Success
06:26 Methods to Ground Yourself
11:21 Choosing Your Struggles
15:57 Why Mark Got Depressed After His First Book
22:06 Experience of Quitting Alcohol
33:05 Why Gen-Z are Impressive
45:15 Mark’s Hierarchy of Audience Capture
49:31 Thoughts on the Modern Era of Men’s Advice
1:04:13 How #MeToo Affected Dating Approaches
1:12:15 What Men Need to Focus On After Their Twenties
1:18:45 Where to Find Mark
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Hello you beauties. Access all episodes 10 hours earlier than KZhead by Subscribing on Spotify - spoti.fi/2LSimPn. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:45 What People Don’t Understand About Success 06:26 Methods to Ground Yourself 11:21 Choosing Your Struggles 15:57 Why Mark Got Depressed After His First Book 22:06 Experience of Quitting Alcohol 33:05 Why Gen-Z are Impressive 45:15 Mark’s Hierarchy of Audience Capture 49:31 Thoughts on the Modern Era of Men’s Advice 1:04:13 How #MeToo Affected Dating Approaches 1:12:15 What Men Need to Focus On After Their Twenties 1:18:45 Where to Find Mark
Mark mustn't have heard of Jocko!
Corey Wayne, check out Corey Wayne!!!
The moment he said “ hanging out with Will Smith! “ …He lost me….I was , did I hear right? Let’s wiki this guy…😉yup… I can’t never excuses the arrogance and lack of compassion of Will Smith towards Chris Rock on that night… I can see it again, as if it was yesterday… disgusting.
"Nobody remembers your mistakes better than you do" yeah it's hard to forget when she's always reminding you 😆🥲
"when you see her everyday" would have made it flow better
Then you don't need her king
"Alcohol is the only drug that if you don't use it, people assume you have a problem". Massively true. I have never used it much - rarely as a young adult, a period of 20 years none at all, and then only 2 -3 times a month for social reasons over the past decade or so. I never get to the point of being actually drunk and have had only one bad hangover in my life - I just find alcohol boring and unpleasant. In no way does this make me a better person, but the worst impact was how often I was frozen out of professional or social networks because of this.
It’s because you’re a reminder of their shame. I had a very insecure friend that would get trashed but was so worried about how ppl thought of her that weren’t trashed around her. It’s bc ppl who get dependent on booze to socialize feel awkward around others who don’t need booze to socialize. It’s all an insecurity thing.
@@umiluv True enough. In addition I am naturally somewhat introverted and found the usual drunken banter that goes on in a crowd almost impossible to engage with leaving me feeling very left out. In turn others would misread this as being aloof and judgmental. With time I have slowly learned to make an effort to be more sociable and dampen down my own insecurities.
I have a theory that some people develop a type of allergy to alcohol. My mom always said she never drank cause it only made her sick, I used to be a real fun party guy back in my early 20's but in my late 20's I started to get that sick feeling my mom was talking about. I guess we just don't produce the right enzymes that digest booze? Idk it's probably something like that.
@@MrLazerCatt You are not the only person I know with a similar story.
I got drunk once. Never did it again. You are not alone. And yes, I totally understand how people refuse to engage with you at times. It makes big parties unbearable at times because drunken assholes aren’t funny. They are annoying mostly. But I can tell you some people will welcome you with open arms despite not drinking. It’s just the matter of finding them which is difficult.
Ryan Long has done it again! His characters are so believable.
I came here to make a joke along the same line
I thought it was him, then I realised it was a real dude and got confused hit pause and went back to translating anime
Lol you nailed it dude lol
I’m going to see Ryan Long in Calgary for his new show. This comment thread is lit!
PS: Legit podcast. I like the question to ask yourself; what’s your competitive advantage? What seems hard to others but comes easy to you?
Love how excited Chris was when Mark expressed his desire to go without drinking for all of 2023. Too wholesome.
That part about being sober really resonated with my experience, I’m 33 and hardly drank since Christmas, now drinking doesn’t seem fun anymore and my energy and focus is on a whole new level.
Love Mark Manson! He is one of the few honest and compelling voices in his space.
Mark Manson has written two books that hugely impacted me (Models and Subtle Art). So cool to have him on the podcast!
Models absolutely changed my life. Agreed, I'm really happy to see him on.
I would give Models to my son if I had one.
I got sober about 5 years ago and I noticed something. I became a MUCH better mechanic. Almost overnight. Still feel like trash every morning, tho... That never went away.
Maybe get some blood work done and check your levels? I had a vitamin D deficiency which impacted a lot of my mental and physical health (I worked in office buildings and never got a lot of Sun). Whenever I’m feeling weird, I take some vitamin D and I feel a lot better.
Agree with @umiluv Also, might look into sleep issues, like sleep apnea. Or perhaps eating sugar or high carbohydrate foods within a few hours before going to bed.
Been a while since I had blood work done, 2 or 3 years, but last time I did, there wasn't anything anomalous. Maybe I need a more comprehensive panel? Sounds expensive. I could probably use a cat scan of my spine too. I am walking wounded. Hard to prioritize which problem to solve and when. Also, pretty sure I have some kind of sleep trouble. One thing is that I rarely sleep more than 6 hours in a row. Usually less. But, I can't seem to force myself to sleep more than that. When I try, more seems to make me feel bad in a different way. Eh, such is life. I will figure it out at some point. Thanks for the advice, gentlemen.
@@albertlevins9191airing out your problems to strangers on KZhead will not bring you to a conclusion you are seeking. Just go to the doctor instead of self diagnosing, you’ll feel better in the long run. I hate going to the doctor too, always afraid to know the truth. But go and be better. Speculation will get worse and worse.
As a member of Gen Z, thank you! Just wrote my first book at 18. I feel as though me and our generation found a way to balance having fun and degeneracy with productivity. Y’all ran so we could walk, thank you!
Whats the book about man?
@@croissants1280 basically yeah😂
@@croissants1280 whole chapter on the theme of… we know nothing… nobody knows anything… including you and i
@@croissants1280 how many books have you written bud? Way to be a dick about somebody achieving something they care about
Deleting everyrhing
Intentional celibacy is another habit that makes people assume you have a problem. I've sworn off dating for 4 1/2 years, and people can't wrap their heads around a young, healthy, athletic man with a history of serial dating finding happiness in his own individuality. But I find it extremely rewarding.
Lol nice cope
@@kam_the_shaman The irony.....😮💨
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This comment section proves it. Dipshits just can't imagine having something else than sex as your life's center of gravity.
What do you find so rewarding about it...?
The part about quitting alcohol after living the party boy lifestyle really spoke to me. Was overweight and could not get attractive women until after my sophomore year of college when I lost 50 lbs in a summer and went from an unnoticed man in the eyes of women to someone that would get catcalled walking past an intoxicated group of them. In my last two years of college I was trying to make up for lost time. I had built up an arsenal of drinking stories that blows most other people’s out of the water and slept with loads of gorgeous women. Then the pandemic hit and I moved back home for the last half of my last semester in college. That time I spent at home awoke me to the fact that after all that happened during my last two years of college, I was just as empty as I was before. Sleeping with hordes of women didn’t fill that void I had before. During that time I quit drinking for about 6 months. After that stint of sobriety, going back to drinking in any capacity would make me feel ill. After I started dating my girlfriend a year ago I’ve phased it out completely and I am excelling in my career. I truly think that Covid saved me and believe that if I never went through that shocking phase of sober mind and body then I may have never grown out of that phase in my life.
When tragedies becomes comedy is a beatiful thing. Congratulations mate. Happy for you
He's correct about the mind taking time to catch up to reality. For a while after I became slim I still moved like a big girl.
Moved like a big girl?? As in your eating habits ??
@@niskamo6971u never gain alot of weigth or vice versa . Otherwise u would know that its a fact .
Lollll
“Models” is the book that got me out of the PUA line of thinking and helped me see the problems with relying on techniques and tactics. I’m thankful for that, and it’s awesome to hear Mark’s views on the current dating landscape and men’s self-improvement space.
Same. I supported Vladislav Pozdnyakov in early times and I always thought that girls love only bad boys, but now I understood the better views on relationships
GOATED guest this guys awesome
Subtle Art was my first or second self improvement book. Can’t thank Mark Enough for helping unlock my love for personal development !
I can’t lie. I push the like button before even hearing your content. Keep doing the deal Chris! Love it!
You just did.
He never disappoints
"The correct question isn't why is Andrew Tate saying all these things, it's why are so many young men listening to him?" Very well said. Obviously what he says is appealing to a lot of young men and maybe, as crazy as it may sound, he's right about some things and young men are realizing it. The correct approach instead of demonizing him as a person would be to appreciate his good work, while also being able to point out certain things he says which are out of line.
You suggest people turn a blind eye to all his crimes and indiscretions? Is it good work? Some consider it the opposite.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 Being aware of the pitfalls of modern dating and the relationship dynamic of men and women without political correct verbage getting in the way, is extremely valuable. That is the interest.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 That is literally not what he said. Go read the original post again.
I'm going to turn 50 and I really feel disconnected from this society, TikTok, Andrew Tate etc... I live under a stone now, It's my choice. The hustle culture is not for me. But I like to watch those kind of vids because they enable me to have a foot in the world as It is. Mark Manson yes in France some people know him. I appreciated this conversation.
Andrew Tate/TikTok are the major pieces of news/events in social media and shit, don't feel like you need to keep up with all that. Ive never downloaded Tik Tok.. There's so many little communities to find about your hobbies, whether that's reading, writing, film, physics, whatever. You can find friends and communities that share that passion online. Don't worry about keeping up with ALL the newest social media events and shit, it's bad for your mind anyway.
I'm only 29 mate and I despise all that stuff so I wouldn't worry about it 😂 I brought myself of every social media platform besides KZhead just because of that and I'm thankful I did. People are so brain washed these days and look up to all the wrong types of people in my opinion. Just do your own thing you'll be happier for it
You're better informed if you just know the broad strokes. The details get too cluttered on the internet. It's like a ball of yarn that's been thrown around a bunch, it's not exactly a ball of yarn anymorem
Joo Chris, I am a 21 year old from Germany, I follow you now for the last 1 year. You do a great job, I love how honest and rational you speak and think. Nice to see how you get better every day with your podcasts. You have some great guests! Keep up the good work, thanks for being a cool and good person
It's refreshing to hear Mark talk about doing the painful thing being good. I've been listening to a lot of business audiobooks recently. The most recent two; The Personal MBA; and 4 Hour Work Week have both had a part where the author laments doing the thing that made them money, and that with hindsight they'd avoid the pain and do something different. On their own it sounds like common sense, but hearing it repeated it seems to me that maybe I should be doing the painful things if I want to be successful because every person advising me to avoid the pain didn't when they found their success.
I found Mark's first book at a really important time. I'm a novelist and really thought about success in terms of big publishing contracts, lots of sales, fame and adulation. Working through that book, I really got at the heart of what motivates me. I realized I was using those metrics as a lazy way of proving myself to myself, but actually those weren't the things I really wanted. What I want is to be an important creative voice to a small group of people. I would rather have a passionate cult following than tons of readers that read my book once and never think of it again. I want to be recognized for my work and talent. I want the respect of other writers, to be acknowledged as one of them. These are pretty small, intimate goals, but they're really nourishing. And they have nothing to do with fame and money.
I find it amazing that there is a small number of people creating a big amount of value in terms of content for youtube. And the more interesting thing is how small and well known this world is becoming. Chris, Huberman, Rogan, Lex, there is a sharply defined contour of podcasts that is pure value.
43:00 another good point about high-quality youtube content versus shorts/TikTok. Nobody remembers the shorts because they're like digital crack and can't really offer much quality information that your brain wants to hold on to, except maybe humor and very quickly expelled "facts" or advice.. Yet i can still remember the Huberman video on Alcohol and ADHD, or Crash Course videos teaching things on all sorts of topics from World History to literature, or Epic History's videos on Napoleon.. I think the best metaphor I could think of is think of the content your consuming as food your consuming. You are what you eat, well you're probably also what you watch/consume digitally.
I love that metaphor…” I could think of is think of the content your consuming as food your consuming . You are what you eat, well you’re probably also what you watch/consume digitally…;) that is absolutely true , nice to be reminded 👏🕊🌻
Oh Mark🤤 I’m so dazzled by his candid endless mindfulness and profoundness. But the end of reading “The subtle art of not giving a f*ck” I’ve felt like my entire universe took a ginormous pivot and I vividly remember this distinct feeling with every next page I’ve read , it was like something magical would take over my mind and my heart and every cell in my body would start to blossom. I’ve never felt so liberated ever before. I didn’t have money to go to therapy when i felt my lowest, and instead I started reading Mark’s book. It felt like it was written for me. It gave me more than any therapy ever would💔💔💔
One of the only podcasts which can get me to sit down and watch it fully. Damn.
The gen z topic made me tear up a bit. Because it's what I see around me, yet these kids get only abuse from the other generations, their supposed elders who should guide them. That too has a toll on those same people I see around me.
I love listening to these episodes but i find it so hard not to be part of the discussion! me and my housemate listen and then we pause every 15 mins and I have a discussion with him about what is being said. The discourse in this podcast in particular mirrors conversations i have regularly with my peer group and you get so engrossed you forget sometimes that Chris and the guests he has on are not your friends or know you exist to even be able to input your opinion on topics 😂
Really enjoyed Mark’s books. Never heard him speak before and this is a great conversation.
ok, I just had to laugh when you were talking about why you got depressed after the success of your book and you talked about how you spent such a long time orienting your life around the goal you achieved, and you paused and said, "I spent, I don't know... maybe a half a decade focused on this goal." Or something like that, and I almost spit out a mouthful of coffee! I thought you were going to say "Most of my life," "Since high school", but a half a decade makes me insane for how long I've been working on my book! Anyway, I've been binging on Mark's content all day in my desperate search to figure out how to help my son who has been so lost since his older brother died in 2016. He has just been on a downward spiral since then and it scares me. I just wish it had been a reminder that we are still here and life is precious and we need to focus on using our time well and I feel frustrated by him which makes it even harder to know how to help him. If I can get him to take in your content I think it will speak to him, but he is very hard to help because he isn't helping himself.
Fantastic interview, Chris! Mark Manson is just cool! He just tells you just how he thinks it is; just straight there about it, no glossy overtones, no sales pitch. What he says about relationships, I think, is true. I am singly at the moment and I am enjoying taking my time about it, even at 57.
I really appreciated this episode for its regulating effect on me. I'm one of those people who thinks the future is doomed thanks to "kids these days"--I'll be turning 48 in July, by the way, assuming something doesn't take me out first. And yet listening to Mark's and Chris's perspectives here balanced my opinion somewhat and reminded me that I might wanna get to know these kids better before I write 'em off. I respect and admire Chris and Mark both, and I thank them for all they've shared with us. Modern wisdom, indeed. :)
Because they’re “kids,” you can still have a positive effect on them as a mentor. I think older gens try to blame everything on younger ones without putting in the effort to try and mentor them. It’s a bit bizarre imo.
@@umiluv Great point. And another humbling reminder: I may not have all the answers or even the best questions to ask, but I can share what I’ve learned, serve as a sounding board and grow (even at my advanced age🤣) along with them. Thanks for the response!
Thank you! I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation! ❤
Thank you! Going to start listening now
You and Mark are two of the people I very much value and want to thank so much for all that you do. It's great to have 2 deep-thinking role models like yourselves, who aren't too far either way and in my opinion on most topics go with a common sense approach. Love your work! Keep it up
I’m becoming absolutely redundant. Great episode! Have either of you considered lecture series? Europe Think forums.. Google.. universities.. etc? This is valuable journalism fundamentally.. cheers!
Oh my god!!! Look at that JUMP in subscriber count. So happy for Chris!
As a former "functional alcoholic "..it starts off as all fun and games until your liver and your mind starts going
Models is such a good book. Thanks for the interview Chris!
Mark manson has had the biggest beffect on my shift in focus recently. I am not backing away from Alcohol, I am trying bot look at the world in black and white as much and most importantly, I am really focusing on my health, my relationships and the goals i want to acheive whith the rest of my life. Can't recommend Marks work enough
Thank you Chris, you gave me the opportunity to listen incredibile people that upgrade my life! Come to Italy, you will be my guest!
Mark Manson is one of the great thinkers of our time
Putting chapters is legit I listen to you on Spotify too maybe putting a link would help even in short clips
I also quit alcohol, but switched to slamming crystal meth. No more hangovers for this guy! it’s really done wonders for my productivity and also the voices taste too loud at night!
Identity lags reality. Great insight. So true but I had never considered It before.
Holy shtt, the collab we didn't see coming
He came on last year and talked about Will Smith getting him to Write with him for Wills autobiography.
Mark Manson is a legend!
Podcast is amazing as always, imo the only part where you can improve is to challenge the guests with more difficult questions, and play the devils advocate more often so the listener can get a more well rounded picture. And I totally get that you dont want the tensions to raise between you and guests, but thats just my 2 cents
Hey mark returns !!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Love him and I love you. I think you may be over thinking this too much. You have been able to live in a way and have discussions with people who many of us would give a left nut to communicate with. Keep pushing those echelons, but have a joint, sit back and appreciate the experiences you are able to have. I do get imposter syndrome 110%
Very interesting conversation! Tk you
Tate has said outlandish things but he has given a lot of wise advice.
Tate is a psychopath
Glad to hear other people are quitting drinking. I was worried I'd never find people to hang out with again since I no longer drink.
For relationship : "if you are counting, you are losing" so true
I love your podcast so much I just discovered from Dancia podcast can your next be Naval Ravikant please.
Glad these guys have the success they have
Couldn't agree more with his point about health being a big focus in your late 30s. Having had issues at this age, you definitely need to up your game here to set yourself up well for your 40s and older. Diet & exercise are key.
Damnit, Chris! How did you get so articulate and fleet of thought? Never mind, I know: good food, exercise and no booze 🍸
my drinking habits have mellowed out since getting my own place i would drink much less. Tolerance breaks always at the fore front of my thoughts when it comes to drinking or smoking weed. but most importantly was the onset of acid reflux and not wanting inevitable throat cancer down the road. tomorrow i may withdraw my application for a supervisor role, to continue being a tech for a smaller more family company.
Great Podcast - all so true... 👍👍
Great conversation
11:25 surely this is one of the only questions one should ask themselves. What sacrifices do you want to make.
awesome pod!
Another great interview! Playing catch up. Wonder how my life would be different if I'd had access to your channel through a time warp 30 years ago. I mean besides being rich from discovering a time warp.
Who else should men look to other than Tate? Honestly you, Mark and Joe Rogan are really the only people I've found. People who speak to men in a realistic way, who aren't "toxic" yet aren't too far the other way either. Crazy that there's only really 3 people I can name off the top of my head - no wonder Tate got so big (I'm not even a Tate hater, some stuff he says is great and other stuff is questionable imo). Is there anyone else I'm missing? Would love recommendations for anyone else who's similar to these three. I also like Lex, Naval and Tim Ferriss - although these guys tend to talk a bit less about issues most relevant to men.
I was just going to say Lex Fridman….I like Russell Brand too, Meghan Kelly…I don’t care if a podcast is direct to a male or female audience, I take what I can use and benefit as a human being. I am very much a female but I love seeing both side of the equation in all matters. 🕊🌻
I think the "pain" is when you don't do what you are passionate about. So, if you didn't get to write your 5000 words, play your music, paint your picture (even if it is earning you literally nothing and even making "normal" life a misery)...you feel empty or lost. A passion is not a choice, it's something that being without would create misery. The people that don't write their 5000 words or whatever, are people who are not passionate about the thing. if you were passionate, not doing it would be "pain" however hard it is!
I’m 47 days sober. I was always a binge drinker, which invariably lead to cocaine. So I stopped Coke back in September and continued drinking on occasion to see how I got on. Except, as Marcus mentioned, I might have 2 drinks one night and feel noticeably groggy for a day or 2 after. So the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze. My mental clarity now is night and day. I have no desire to go back, I just need to learn to navigate invites to events surrounded by people insisting I have a drink.
Wonderful conversation.
Its fun to watch two guys talki g about their success and how known they are nd I have no idea who they are! 😂I have read one of the books mentioned but I had no idea it was this man who wrote it❤
While I didn't enjoy Mark's, "The Subtle Art..." book at all, I did find enjoyment in this podcast. That said, I haven't ran across a podcast of Chris' I didn't enjoy!
A Mark Manson and Andrew Tate discussion would be very interesting, especially on men's dating advice. And there is actually a balanced dating coach who has been giving advice for over a decade now: Coach Correy Wayne.
12:20 These are people who are wanting to become something deep down they don't REALLY want to be, they just want the special title and prestige that comes with it, OR they're too timid and low-self-esteem to have their work just suck, suck, suck, suck, suck, suck less, suck a little less, suck again, get better, get better etc... and slowly get better over time, even alone in their own private room they're unwilling to go through the portion of being crappy at something till you're okay at it, and maybe brave enough to show some people it. That's just my take, Mark Manson has far more wisdom on the subject. He makes a great point of asking "well have you written anything yet?" and they answer "No." Well you don't improve your skill in your head, you improve through practice. So go practice, practice, practice. Perfect practice makes for great progress, but even crappy practice is 1,000,00,000 better than sitting just thinking, thinking thinking thining of doing the thing. /rant
Great crossover.
I'm an amateur writer and no one talks about how much time alone it is. If you're an outgoing person it can be difficult. You have to learn that solitude isn't necussarily loneliness.
As a millennial, I appreciate content that I can relate to, seems like everyone is so focused on Gen z now a days, so thanks 😊
Not goin lie… this channel motivated me to quit drinking
Altitude sickness, insightful! How about The Benz when Scuba Diving and rising to fast?
Excellent point made at 1:16:00
"Identity lags reality a year or two ..." - wow... this is deep.
Travis Ryan from Cattle Decap. is a very smart guy
Great, thanks!
The thing about becoming a superstar athlete, if one is lucky enough to , is that it is inevitably going to end in a relatively short time, no matter how good you are.
This is my dream come true!
Chris, just saw a conversation you moderated last April with Alex Epstein and Peter Thiel, hosted by Palmer Luckey. Any chance you've thought of getting Palmer on the pod? He would be an incredible guest of he's willing to do it.
Very interesting conversation
Chris, I'm not always interested in some of your podcasts, but. Dude, when you find a guest on your podcast, you completely hit it out of the ballpark. The interviews you do with your guests are so interesting and fun and deep. Like I said, I don't stay with an episode I'm not interested in, but your range of guests is always off the beaten path, I loved the episode with the marketing guy who's a Brit, such a fun guest. The older guy. Such a fun guest, talking about toilets and smoking and TV's. He's such a non political correct guest, it's refreshing. He's a bloak.
Models changed my life. The Subtle Art too because it made me go into self improvement
Well at least the thumbnail isn't a pic of him giving the finger. I read his first book that was the big hit...was decent, but I'm wary of someone who graduates college, works an office job for like a year, and then becomes a self-help guru.
David DeAngelo always struck me as a good dude who was just trying to help men behave in ways that were more attractive to women, and more satisfying to women. He wasn't necessarily championing "hook-up culture", he just encouraged men to feel like they had options and not settle or feel the need to "please" a woman by becoming a floor mat for them. He taught men to stop seeking validation and approval and to rather just be confident in themselves. He actually seemed to favor close, committed relationships even in his heyday.
Well said, I like the part…“ and not settle or feel the need to please a woman by becoming a floor mat for them . “ nothing I hate more than a yes man….be yourself and stick to your opinion, I much prefer a man who does that👍🧡🌻
Does anyone know the brand or what type of book stand Chris got in background?
Random Thought: could you get John Cleese on your Show?
I think the podcast “Man Enough” is a pretty good voice for our young generations as well as older. Their motto is “undefining masculinity” and they promote emotional intelligence, hard work etc. Overal they (the hosts as well as guests) also get very vulnerable themselves and admit to their own mistakes and struggles (mental health, cheating, pornography addictions etc. ) and teach you to take ownership of them and fix them! Sure, they overdo it sometimes when they go into taking responsibility for your ancestors mistakes. But overal, I think it’s a wellspoken and succesfull group of people with a lot of heart for helping today’s jonger men (as well as young women and adults) in becoming they better selves and take responsibility of their own actions. Pretty much what Peterson is advocating for, a bit more leftist at times. Definitely worth checking out!❤ I think their channel (hosted by 3 people) and yours make a good balance of information resources and ideas (sometimes very different sometimes very much the same).
@@RatPfink66 In my opnion, the one does not exclude the other.
Man Enough is leftist propaganda and shaming masculinity.
Legitimately had a friend who lost a finger on a night out. Still talk about it now. Great badge of honour
Mark Manson tho 🔥💋
"Choose your damn sacrifice!" - JBP
I like Mark’s book “Models”. But take him with a grain of salt. He also said hypergamy is BS. He’s very much so into self-help.
1:08:40 this point hits 🎯💯
Interesting conversation. I spent half of it saying, "well, that's completely f'n wrong," but entertaining nonetheless.
Now I can’t stop praying that Chris has Peter Thiel on… ASAP
The "void" in the men's influencer space that Andrew Tate is occupying is the void that the two of you are adding wisdom, humor and compassion. Happy both of you have a magaphone to reach those looking for another perspective besides PUA, drinking (loved the point abt "the hangover" having less resonance, its abt time) and distraction. Ive also lived enough to know that 50 sheep and a family satisfies more than careerism, romantic "validation" and degeneracy....the fun doesnt last.