I’m on the coaches side for the first 45 seconds. Give the kid as much encouragement to get back in there but a a certain point. When he’s said call it 5 times. You gotta know that kid doesn’t have it
@morganbartman60923 жыл бұрын
I think the coach just thought he was pussin out .... his coach would never make him fight if he honestly thought he couldn’t do it ... that’s why he told the reff to call it too when the ref asked , that let him know he was serious
@lt.generalofsalt42733 жыл бұрын
Facts
@charlieeleftheriadis96463 жыл бұрын
@@lt.generalofsalt4273 well put
@Thawhid3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought, give him all the encouragement you can but when the whistle goes and the ref is about to start the round and he is still sitting there saying call it, then you call it man
@foryourlugsonly3 жыл бұрын
He knew he could get seriously injured, it’s not that he not prepared it is when you know that you could have CTE and end up like Gerald McClellan who is currently paralyzed and lost 95% of his hearing. He doesn’t want to end up like that. Edit: Joe also mentions Gerald went blind so if you still want to say Max should have continued fighting, go somewhere else and get away from combat sports if you want to see peoples’ lives and careers end with one severe injury.
@allainangcao282 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for Brendan to change his mind now that Rogan said this
@jeno53473 жыл бұрын
Hahahah facts dude
@JBOM-qp8nq3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@Cryptum4043 жыл бұрын
brenda slob? great guy... never met him
@joeyhernandez59803 жыл бұрын
Brenda? I don't get this debate. The fighter can always tell the ref he's done. If the fighter doesn't trust his gut over his coach, that's on him, not the coach
@carsonwentz83013 жыл бұрын
So true!!!
@j.a.r.family25763 жыл бұрын
it really sucks we can't watch what they're watching
@roflmao21333 жыл бұрын
@Liam Foster I don't, does that mean I can't be interested?
@roflmao21333 жыл бұрын
@Liam Foster cringe
@morphkogan86273 жыл бұрын
@Google User hopefully!
@roflmao21333 жыл бұрын
For sure!! It’s the most annoying thing. I get why, because KZhead is stupid and Joe is high profile. But soo annoying
@kevinb3143 жыл бұрын
@@kevinb314 LOL I feel you bud
@roflmao21333 жыл бұрын
i feel the kid on this one. back when i played highschool football, i tried to get the coach to pull my out because i felt something was wrong. the coach screamed at me and refused. it wasnt fear, but that very next down i went in for a tackle and my leg ended up under the other teams qb completely destroying my knee and keeping me from ever playing another sport again
@steventaylorgroom3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that, what exactly happened to your knee?
@aymankhali9043 жыл бұрын
My condolences to you for that. Also, that coach is a piece of work.
@Topazvexen2 жыл бұрын
sorry mate,I hope you are doing fine much love
@Realmomad2 жыл бұрын
High school? Coach was playing for his ego at that point
@caspercasper54132 жыл бұрын
Let me guess, they yanked your division 1 offers after that?
@randlemarsh2 жыл бұрын
Understand Max wanting to stop, but I don't blame the coach for trying to motivate his fighter
@tomdrake37873 жыл бұрын
@Zachary Hoy go find a girlfriend you angry weirdo And dont start beating her either
@tomatoesofdoom3 жыл бұрын
Zachary Hoy Are you mentality challenged?
@itsdecaylsd5513 жыл бұрын
@Zachary Hoy 🤦♂️
@carolsmith56893 жыл бұрын
There is a point where its not "motivating" him anymore. There is a point where he simply doesn't do what the fighter literally asks him.. CALL IT x 7 times.. That ain't motivating that is neglecting your fighter.
@Trackformers2 жыл бұрын
@Dankenstein If u wanna coach do your job..
@Trackformers2 жыл бұрын
Respect to rogan, he knows his boxing even boxers from england. Nigel Benn was the man back then, his wars with Eubanks were classics
@blackdaripper3 жыл бұрын
The Dark Destroyer, what a killer.
@Vudoo133 жыл бұрын
McKellen is the guy who don king convinced him to fire Stewart and hire a guy who couldn't speak English for his corner. if I remember right there was something up with the ref as well. Fuck Don king. I can't remember why don king wanted to get rid of Manny tho money, power, or both I think. Can't say it enough fuck don king
@bslygh3 жыл бұрын
A Prayer Before Dawn is an amazing movie. Check it out peeps.
@replynotificationsdisabled3 жыл бұрын
He don't know shit about boxing 😂
@Moari4lyfe13 жыл бұрын
@@Moari4lyfe1 you know more than him. We know.
@Tabish293 жыл бұрын
The kid took the fight 5 day notice for the money. He looked drained and possibly cut too much weight without a proper camp against an experienced pro who was ready and had a full camp. Had nothing left after the second round and felt like dying. Pretty courageous move to go against his coach and take himself out of there bc you can get hurt badly in this sport. He's back now and won his last two fights since then. Good luck to him.
@jamieldn2 жыл бұрын
I see why his coach was encouraging him. He won the first round imo. However the short notice fight had his cardio not up to par and its ok that he quit. Last thing we need is a death from a cardiac event in the cage. This isnt boxing. People dont need to die while competing
@evanodum5633 жыл бұрын
Oh you mean like Dada 5000 and Kimbo when Dada had a heart attack? lol
@OIFIIIOIF-VET3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly summed up 👍
@ziggs1233 жыл бұрын
The fighter can always stop the fight. He can tap or just tell the ref he's done.
@carsonwentz83013 жыл бұрын
Carson Wentz but he can’t.
@OACSOME3 жыл бұрын
he wasn't going to DIE ffs. he always has the option to tap out or verbally quit. he 100% would have still been in control of his own health. bet he regretted quitting on his stool 5 minutes later.
@zzz7zzz93 жыл бұрын
Boxing is different though they literally get knocked out and they let them recover to probably get knocked out again. There's way more brain damage in boxing.
@VoidBL3 жыл бұрын
And the gloves allow for more repeated concussive force. It's easier to get caught clean and go out with 4 ounce gloves rather than get your brain rattled for 30 minutes with 8 ounce gloves.
@a.a.h.s.23453 жыл бұрын
Don’t agree with that spinning heel to the head and you will never get up
@danleon31433 жыл бұрын
@@danleon3143 yea but how many spinning heel hook knockouts do you really see in mma not very many. Sure a spinning heel hook ko is more devastating but u dont really see almost anyone throw it where as punches every fighter throws them and in boxing thats literally their only form of doing damage. Mma u have more ways to win other than just knocking ur opponent out such as submissions, kicks to the body hell some fights even end in leg kicks. With boxing you're primary target is the head and getting repeated blows there throughout many fights ultimately makes boxing more prone to brain damage than any other combat sport
@DanielM7963 жыл бұрын
@@DanielM796 FACT
@GRANDxMEME3 жыл бұрын
@@DanielM796 completely agree, I always use the example of a 10 seconds window, if you had 10 seconds to inflict as much damage, you might get 2 maybe 3 spinning kicks, but with boxing, just imagine how many hooks they can land in 10 seconds... a hell of a lot and that damage is compound.
@WarrenKirkpatrick3 жыл бұрын
Idk what people are debating about this honestly. Its a perfectly normal response from the fighter and the coach.
@karljonson32873 жыл бұрын
Cause there isn’t anything else to talk about in mma
@JBOM-qp8nq3 жыл бұрын
@@JBOM-qp8nq correct
@kyle15383 жыл бұрын
cause the little mermaid reporter want to make it a big deal
@AT-qy4jq3 жыл бұрын
To prevent death's in the cage
@Travvv943 жыл бұрын
Because it shouldn't be perfectly normal ffs!
@JustMeELC3 жыл бұрын
The one thing I will say is that old-school boxing trainers knew how to end a fight when a fighter wanted to quit without the whole world knowing the fighter quit. I don't blame the trainer for encouraging him, but having an overt quit vs. don't quit argument in plain view isn't really doing your fighter any favors from a PR perspective. There are better ways to handle it.
@bennylevine3873 жыл бұрын
I always look for Joe's context on these debates. Its refreshing and always helps me to understand all view points.
@captainstubbing13 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Stephen A.Smith was commentatinh on this😂😂😂
@ericwilliams29803 жыл бұрын
HE QUIT IN THERE
@carolsmith56893 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@j.d.83213 жыл бұрын
Do you think he’d be yelling?
@danzigmcnaniel52263 жыл бұрын
Im sure he will at some point
@jaradrichardsC1373 жыл бұрын
Hate to admit it, but he was right about Cowboy quitting though.
@lemongeezer11573 жыл бұрын
Everyones should read what the fighter had to say in his interview recently, he said thats what he expects his coach to do and he commended him for it. If a true fighter doesn't want to fight noone can convince him to but himself and he knows this
@ryabm14043 жыл бұрын
Unless your head has been beat in and the lights are on but no one is home. Plenty of fighters get knocked down and get back up but arent even there anymore. So many fighters think its second round but the fight is over. They fight multiple rounds without even knowing they did it. A fighter cant protect himself quite often
@nickniesman70133 жыл бұрын
@@nickniesman7013 I agree with your points of disorientation, not knowing the round all these things are true. As a man, a human, the fact is no on is going to force you into that ring, you decide. Thats a fact unless your referring to situations where they physically force a fighter into a ring.
@ryabm14043 жыл бұрын
Every fighter says the same thing.... My corner did exactly what I wanted smh. Encourage yes... ignoring after NINE+ TIMES fighter says call it NO! Too many corners don't put their fighters health & wellness first & it's got to stop!
@JustMeELC3 жыл бұрын
Ethan Seal Anthony pettis quit against tony Ferg he knew he wasn’t going to win people who don’t train can call fighters quitters but at the day end he saved his self from sever damage that ungrateful fans don’t have to experience.
@SkarmauFlage3 жыл бұрын
M Batch Pettus quit because he had a broken hand
@giodalba15373 жыл бұрын
Not everyone needs to go out on their shield.
@sweetbabyray423 жыл бұрын
I believe in going out on my shield, but I dont believe someone should be frowned upon for not sharing my foolish sentiments.
@sachemgromiller18993 жыл бұрын
@King Delevingne I'd love to see ur punk ass fight at this level.
@cavemanlovesmoke43943 жыл бұрын
Agree. If this was a title fight it would be different, particularly if it's later in the fighters career - but the kid is young and took this one on short notice. If he was getting beat up too badly and his brain was in a fog or whatever he's well within his rights to take the L and come back stronger next time
@scrumpoxjnr3 жыл бұрын
@King Delevingne jump in the ring with him then tough guy.
@0tto93 жыл бұрын
@austin M Nate diaz was like that before all the fights
@aaronforsythe85563 жыл бұрын
Nigel Benn would be a sick guest on the show
@ippop4pking3053 жыл бұрын
There's a video of Benn meeting McClelland years later, on a wheelchair. Man, it's one of the toughest things I've seen.
@MaghoxFr3 жыл бұрын
According to an article in The Observer, McClellan participated in dog fighting.[14][15] McClellan's trainer and family admitted that McClellan was involved with fighting pitbulls, and on one occasion had used tape to bind the jaws of a Labrador shut before allowing his pet pitbull "Deuce" to kill it" Fuck that dude
@craigsmart19863 жыл бұрын
Craig Smart Wow and just like that I’m happy that dudes life got fucked up the way it did. He deserves every ounce of pain he gets and I hope it’s a lot
@cwbyfan933 жыл бұрын
@@cwbyfan93 thats such an ignorant thing to say. the guy and his whole family will suffer for the rest of their lives due to this. nothing could justify the pain caused, even some mistakes he made in his earlier life.
@MajorCB2113 жыл бұрын
justCiaranYT I feel bad for his family of course. I can’t imagine. But Mclelland? Nah. That’s some pure evil shit that he did. He might be a nice guy but that evil exists in his heart, his soul, and his very being. And I don’t have sympathy for any individual in any condition who has that sort of evil inside of them
@cwbyfan933 жыл бұрын
@@craigsmart1986 was talking about Benn
@MaghoxFr3 жыл бұрын
Here's my useless thought on the situation. The coach spends more time around his fighter more than anyone else. For however many weeks for camp theyre around eachother for what is probably 6hrs a day depending on the schedule. The coaches have a good understanding of what a fighter is capable of and how much he can push him. If the fighter is prone to hitting a mental wall at a certain point in a fight, the coach is there to break it down. Sure, you could argue that once the fighter says hes done, call it done but some fighters need that nudge because they cant muster it up themselves. Personally, I think coaches should Err on the side of caution and just throw in the towel if the fighter requests it because 30 seconds is not enough time judge if the fighter needs motivation or he's seriously hurt and needs serious medical attention. So let the guy live to fighter another day and let him take the L and work on pushing past mental barriers in camp if it turns out that the problem wasnt life or death. Nobody wants these guys to die in the cage/ring so lets keep these people safe or as safe as possible in a sport where theyre kicking and punching each other in the head
@mindaugasmazrimas45543 жыл бұрын
He took the fight on 5 days notice don’t know how much time they spent together
@jagsfan69882 жыл бұрын
It's actually the opposite. Coaches who have been around a fighter forever have an emotional attachment to both the fighter and the fight. They don't see reality the way an outside observer does. Every coach wants to believe in his guy. Every coach wants to be the coach that talked their fighter off a cliff and then had them turn it around. This is an area where boxing kicks MMA's ass, and it's because coaches are chastised for not being an adult when a fight should be stopped.
@michaelpryor788 ай бұрын
People should be much more upset at smiths coaches. He took so much more damage, had nearly no path to victory, and only said my teeth are falling out between round 4-5
@weindafieldhouse86193 жыл бұрын
What fight?
@qaz-fi1id3 жыл бұрын
It was Smith Vs teixeira
@carlcrawford38303 жыл бұрын
They were not ALLOWED to stop it. Anthony Smith said that if his corner ever stops one of his fights, they are immediately fired. They made that deal to be in his corner. They have 0 blame.
@Justice4Skye3 жыл бұрын
@@Justice4Skye The corner has the legal responsibility to stop the fight. Smith should have his purse docked and his coaches should be barred from cageside by the commission for a year for agreeing to that.
@EclecticBuddha3 жыл бұрын
@@Justice4Skye Smith's teeth learned that was a dumb idea, the bad way.
@Dissenter3 жыл бұрын
I love watching Joe Rogan reacting to a youtube video that I cant see, really adds to the entertainment value of the video.
@Tohdette3 жыл бұрын
HEY JOE AND EDITORS LISTEN TO YOUR VIEWERS!!! IF YOU PULL UP SOMETHING THAT WONT BE A COPYSTRIKE LET IT PLAY ON SCREEN!!!
@theg35project503 жыл бұрын
Lol
@wilard953 жыл бұрын
I always think of this fight when fighters want to stop. Im glad Joe mentioned this.
@usamahafeez91523 жыл бұрын
"That was a wild fight, Nigel Benn had those crazy dreadlocks" -- Joe Rogan 2020
@elihernandez8003 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know if they'll be able to show the clips in screen when they move to Spotify
@nicholasroman19153 жыл бұрын
I recommend everyone watches the Gman Benn documentary it’s my favorite doc ever. It’s something else
@chrisweber60903 жыл бұрын
took fight on 5 days notice...... went 2 hard rounds..... full camp he could go 3
@pokerace4203 жыл бұрын
Man that video where Nigel is with Gerald and his wife is a tear jerker. It really shows how many lives that one fight impacted.
@mikehunt-hertz80203 жыл бұрын
“It’s entirely possible”
@rickfrompawnstars55503 жыл бұрын
Benn vs McClellan had one of the scariest endings I'd ever seen in sports. Not just boxing, but sports.
@vernonhampton58633 жыл бұрын
It was the one of the greatest fights, obviously a shame what happened to McCellan though.
@eddy46883 жыл бұрын
The Benn fight was crazy
@joebanks95293 жыл бұрын
He was a warrior (his first fight with Eubank was great too), but turned into a chicken when hearing Roy Jones or James Toney's names.
@Dissenter3 жыл бұрын
Remember that Benn fight like it was yesterday. Benn showed heart like I'd rarely seen before or since in that ring. He was never the same himself after!! Real life Rocky moment!
@CamEraFitnessChannel3 жыл бұрын
I could listen to Rogan explain fights for hours without seeing the actual fight
@yobum18943 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for rogan to talk about Mike Perry GF corning
@User-is2kf3 жыл бұрын
Bahahahahahaha
@hardwellland64073 жыл бұрын
That's a subject I fear he won't cover for awhile lol
@Dr.Gainzzz3 жыл бұрын
like Joe said Only the fighter knows. dude stayed in fight until he realized he was in danger
@drinkspecials3 жыл бұрын
Danger? It was a cage fight. Danger was supposed to be there.
@xwhite20203 жыл бұрын
You listen to your fighter. Period. That's terrible corner work. I may have agreed if I'd never seen the Tyson vs Golata fight. Golata looked completely fine even got booed out of the arena when he quit. Turns out the dude was seriously injured. Detached retina fractured jaw and a list of other injuries. But I cant stress how normal he looked. Always listen to the fighter, when hes had enough hes had enough. Golata could have died from the next punch from a normal boxer. He was fighting Tyson.
@ispartacus13373 жыл бұрын
Schilling will be fighting for extra cigarettes soon.
@enkibumbu2 жыл бұрын
There is no discussion. If a fighter doesnt want to continue, thats it. Its over.
@zepole873 жыл бұрын
Max is known to quit on his self. The coach knew Max was like that. He was doing his job as a coach trying to get his fighter back into the fight. Read Max's interview he says the same thing.
@lokithejokester5993 жыл бұрын
there is always more than one way to look at something
@Alex-sg3yz3 жыл бұрын
Than the fighter can do it himself and say it himself to the ref. Simple as
@Dietze93 жыл бұрын
What difference is there between quitting in that moment vs tapping?
@nothankyoutube3 жыл бұрын
"Maybe it was a good thing he stopped" I really like that statement
@Mawzeen3 жыл бұрын
Link to the fight Rogan is talking about, please?
@oninoyakamo3 жыл бұрын
I like how Joe paints a picture of past fights like how big the fight was & all
@sumuqh3 жыл бұрын
Can you post a link to the original clip?
@Quodge3 жыл бұрын
I just hope that max takes this as a learning opportunity, and doesn’t decide to give up, because even though he gassed out in the first, he showed some true talent. He just needs to be willing to learn from this, Or if he feels like he wasn’t properly prepared for the ufc environment then maybe he should consider switching camps
@jordandoyle15343 жыл бұрын
He was on 5 day notice, credit to him for stepping in that octagon
@bradywordsworth77253 жыл бұрын
Saw highlights of the fight, and the outcome was so brutally bleak... Saw Gerald McClellan in an interview taken after 6 years, and his condition was heartbreaking... Saw Nigel Benn vs. Gerald McClellan after 12 years of the incident, and that shit had me in tears...
@chohawk13 жыл бұрын
We all have a limit and this young dude found his, no shame in it, respect for stepping in the octagon.
@Revo20113 жыл бұрын
Benn vs Gerald one of the most underrated fights in history
@jdizzled41143 жыл бұрын
It’s super hard to watch knowing what happened to McClennan
@JAw17293 жыл бұрын
@@JAw1729 great fight is a great fight regardless of what happened after
@jdizzled41143 жыл бұрын
There’s honestly no controversy in this situation, the coach tried to encourage his fighter for the whole minute, the fighter said no and the fight was called off, that’s the most the coach could do.
@TheUsurperJoffreyBaratheon3 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. The fighter kept saying "call it" and the coach kept not doing it all the way until the bell rang. At that point the coach has to call it. What you wanna force your fighter to fight because the bell rang and you didn't call it despite him telling you to? Absolute shit take. The coach can fuck off.
@gh0un2 жыл бұрын
That's how the ufc started. Coaches threw in the towel when their fighter was finished. So yes, they should throw the towel if it's too bad
@ptrekboxbreaks51988 ай бұрын
It’s the fighter’s decision, period.
3 жыл бұрын
Joe is spot on! The nigel benn fight is a perfect example of people having their lives destroyed because they're taking far too much punishment and we need to stop fights sooner, I'd rather fights stop to soon than see a guy hurt.
@rungeon833 жыл бұрын
Coach wasn't that wrong, but the fighter was absolutely not in the wrong!!!!
@ragnarlodbrok12333 жыл бұрын
@King Delevingne ok, armchair warrior
@mmmyum47793 жыл бұрын
@@mmmyum4779 He's not wrong though. The greats just don't quit.
@TRIIGGAVELLI3 жыл бұрын
2 wrongs sorta made it right lol
@funkyjunkn96593 жыл бұрын
He thought Joe Rogan would agree with him on this, kept quiet for 5 minutes when he realized that wasn't the case
@milano64223 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was awkward😁
@HopeAndrea_HFG3 жыл бұрын
It's casual discussion. He said sometimes fighters need motivation, Joe said some fighters know they're done. They're both right
@purplemonkeyelephant3 жыл бұрын
@@purplemonkeyelephant yep, it's not binary, not black or white.
@thetruthwillsetyoufree92093 жыл бұрын
i believe it was OK for the coach to try and motivate the fighter, but the kid nearly begged to not continue, and that should have made the coach to accept the situation. Regardless how well they know each other etc etc, the trainer cannot 100% understand what his fighter goes through in that specific moment
@mr.hgorgan18123 жыл бұрын
@ man, having compassion for humans means hes shilling. Don't you have an egirl to simp on somewhere?
@BeatdownGG3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a sensible boy who knows when he's beaten. Continuing against his better judgment and incurring damage, he has no use for the future.
@justmethenetherlands22183 жыл бұрын
Please show the footage while discussing it.
@mylescasey76643 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the Benn fight, scary shit
@11ASCT3 жыл бұрын
"He came out of it okay?" "No."
@pullt3 жыл бұрын
I remember that fight joe. It was pure brutality at its height. Gerald was a beast. God bless him
@ragingbull31573 жыл бұрын
If a fighter cant continue it's up to the fighter his coach and even the cage doc can stop the fight for whatever reason seems necessary. Cuts, dehydration, or even damage.
@suckmex38993 жыл бұрын
McClellan fought Julian Jackson before that fight. Jackson was a devastating puncher and hit Gerald with some hard shots. Jackson eventually got TKO'd, but some of his shots could have had a snowball effect on Gerald.
@shrapnel773 жыл бұрын
This is insane Austin is from my area !! & this crazy how’s he’s made it so far !!
@zachary510611 ай бұрын
Joe didn't mention that Benn hit Gerald with dozens of rabbit punches.
@huflungdung82522 жыл бұрын
I always think of GSP telling his coach that his groin was torn and his coach said ‘hit him with your groin!’
@philipmalaby81723 жыл бұрын
I think they’re both right and it just depends on the situation. At the VERY LEAST, you need 100% transparent communication between coach and fighter. When you’re exhausted you’re not gonna speak eloquently so the coach needs to know the difference between somethings seriously wrong or the fighters just having a hard time with the bright lights cause the words and demeanor can be the same. Whichever the case is, you NEED the communication no matter what.
@chriskb24953 жыл бұрын
Only sane comment
@MenacingSnail Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if Roy Jones fought mcclean in their primes.
@KillyJoe3 жыл бұрын
Damn, I went and watched an interview with McClellan 6 years after the fight. Just a sad story, almost shed a tear for the guy.
@LuckyDT3 жыл бұрын
Schilling will be punking people for extra bread slices and peanut butter packets soon.
@WorthlessChatter2 жыл бұрын
Prolly but only if theyre drunk as🤬holes or jack'n in his bathroom 🤔
@brianwilhelm37772 жыл бұрын
You reminded me of Jamie Varner saying he couldn’t continue after getting hit in the balls by Cerrone
@LoSTRaMaiR3 жыл бұрын
I punched MYSELF in the jaw as hard as I could as a teenager (to impress a girl that I wasn't even attracted to). I played it off, for the rest of the day at work I felt like I wasn't quite actually in reality. I never did that stunt again. That was over 20 years ago but I still remember the sensation of doing my job (bagging groceries) while feeling like I was just controlling a robot. I did my job well, no one noticed, but I was designated driver for my body that day, I wasn't in my body. I honestly don't know how to describe it. Your body may break down and you may feel bad about it, but at least you can feel bad and remember what it once was or what it could be like. Losing your mind means you aren't you ever again. Living dead. (which is probably the best way to describe how I felt that day)
@Thulgore3 жыл бұрын
ooo ooo aaaa aaa the joe rowgunn text to speech
@davidca963 жыл бұрын
McClellan story is sooo sad.
@jctai1003 жыл бұрын
The real question is, does Rogan have a photographic memory?
@thersten3 жыл бұрын
This is such a complex subject, the fighter could be afraid of serious injury or he could be just chickening out (doubt that would happen in a pro fight tho) and the coach could be giving him confidence or just being an ass, and also in case the coach wants to stop and the fighter doesn't than the fighter could know he can take it or he is being way too overconfident.
@irtttt3 жыл бұрын
Coach should stop the fight when the fighter can no longer win, especially when injured. But short of that...fighter should choose.
@mikemclean62423 жыл бұрын
Injury - ok. How do you determine can “no longer win”?!
@alextownsend66623 жыл бұрын
@@alextownsend6662 oh shush. Stop looking for an argument. There's nothing wrong with what OP said
@XxPunxunite3 жыл бұрын
@@alextownsend6662 fatigue or a obvious concussion
@jacobforeman6043 жыл бұрын
@@XxPunxunite It's a valid question "Can no longer win" can mean behind on the scorecard. It could mean they're starting to gas out. It could mean a bunch of things and asking for clarification on a statement isn't looking for an argument.
@Dekartz3 жыл бұрын
@@alextownsend6662 when the guy can barely fucking stand. He's not gonna win
@jerff54113 жыл бұрын
First time i've ever seen Joe Rogan with frown lines
@Pulsed1013 жыл бұрын
Nigel Benn was a beast. Watch his fight with Iran Barkley in 1990.
@xpat733 жыл бұрын
I wish they would show us the screen that they are watching and talking about.
@darenanderson49613 жыл бұрын
I wish we could of seen what they were looking at... seems like Joe doesn’t really show the screen anymore.
@acuralee3 жыл бұрын
Coaches need to motivate but also need to protect their fighters
@derekgreig29603 жыл бұрын
Damnit jamie you showed the wrong punch lol
@codyreactions3 жыл бұрын
You get 20 seconds to get back in the ring it's not the normal 10 seconds for a knockdown
@nononsense58983 жыл бұрын
Here after schilling finally got a win. It was vs an extremely drunk guy in a bar that Joe sucker punched, but a wins a win. Congrats Joe
@jaw39642 жыл бұрын
Link?
@HarperJones3 жыл бұрын
Nigel benn was never the same after this fight
@gavinmceneff56123 жыл бұрын
if he quits and regrets it that’s on him, props for even fighting tho
@michaelgonzalez13373 жыл бұрын
A new mindset is required...If any fighter ever says I'm finished that's it..Sooner or later if forced to go on someone will die...Then the real shit hits the fan !
@marcgottlieb95793 жыл бұрын
Read Max's interview. He quits on his self. He needs the coach to keep him in the fight.
@lokithejokester5993 жыл бұрын
That’s too extreme. I think coaches just need to be more sensitive about when a fighters done. Ask more questions. Learn how to figure your fighter out better. Maybe even have a sports psychologist on hand. Improvement can always be made without having to going too far in one direction. Problem with people is that it always has to be one way or the other. It’s like you can’t walk and chew bubblegum at the same time.
@roarblast73323 жыл бұрын
Jojoe. Once again, way too extreme. Sure, nothing is perfect. So that means what? Let rapists rape people because nothing is perfect? Let murderers kill because nothing is perfect? How about, we can make things better and let people do what they want at the same time. You know you can do things at the same time right? You want to completely throw out one side of the issue, while at the same time saying nothing is perfect. It’s a contradiction. You’re being a hypocrite, which is what being extreme leads you to.
@roarblast73323 жыл бұрын
@ Once a fight stops being competitive whats the point in sending a guy back out there to get ko'd
@russell60753 жыл бұрын
Russell You’ve clearly never seen a comeback fight huh?
@Frost-kh9mg3 жыл бұрын
Joe Rogan sounds like Matt Hardy
@CRACKEDSCREEN Жыл бұрын
Mike tyson says back in the day "gerald mclellan is dynamite " one of the best ever .
@kpoolillanes3 жыл бұрын
The coach said he was going to call the fight off if by the Bell his fighter didn't want to continue but the ref asked the fighter before he could call it off when the bell rang. The kid fought on 3 days notice and was drained from the weight cut. If anything he's a Hero for taking the fight on super short notice.
@rajunaidu77513 жыл бұрын
I don’t know
@jerryg27573 жыл бұрын
Joe “maybe you should call before the guy calls” rogan
@zayors3 жыл бұрын
Zayors Bmx Joe “what a old tired joke you’re repeating” rogan
@nickmorton23543 жыл бұрын
Joe “but I’m to dumb to realize I’m using it to” rogan
@zayors3 жыл бұрын
Zayors Bmx no nice try 😆
@nickmorton23543 жыл бұрын
I think trainers should have a talk between rounds with fighters and say if you don't show me something I'm going to throw in the towel but only say that if they are properly concerned.
@jayrob52703 жыл бұрын
if yall havent seen that fight joe is referring too, there is a short doc on it.. its sad af, but real.
@makkam9993 жыл бұрын
Always so frustrated when people talk about getting more than ten seconds in boxing. It isn’t from the moment they hit the floor it is from the moment the opposing fighter retreats to the corner... smh
@Gazzaxi3 жыл бұрын
Does it bug anyone else that the top of Joe's headphones is never symmetrical? The foam but is always off to his right
@charlesbadoola5353 жыл бұрын
Yeah..i remember the Benn v McClellan fight....McClellan started blinking exaggerated blinks a couple of rounds before the stoppage....he obviously knew something was wrong....very sad outcome.
@stuartgyves13793 жыл бұрын
The fight with Julian Jackson is where the damage was done You could hear his speech change after that fight happen
@TV1stTime3 жыл бұрын
Glad someone brought that up
@nostalgiaman68163 жыл бұрын
Is there something Rogan doesn’t know?
@CingCasper3 жыл бұрын
Rip to G Man 😞
@mickeyfromthesix50243 жыл бұрын
He’s not dead
@aaron4walg3 жыл бұрын
And people say Rogan isn’t a useful part of the UFC.. He is the best a giving context imo.
@BillyTheKidder3 жыл бұрын
interview Bao please!
@ancientfutures3 жыл бұрын
Had he continued and won everyone would be praising the coach now.
I’m on the coaches side for the first 45 seconds. Give the kid as much encouragement to get back in there but a a certain point. When he’s said call it 5 times. You gotta know that kid doesn’t have it
I think the coach just thought he was pussin out .... his coach would never make him fight if he honestly thought he couldn’t do it ... that’s why he told the reff to call it too when the ref asked , that let him know he was serious
Facts
@@lt.generalofsalt4273 well put
Yeah I thought, give him all the encouragement you can but when the whistle goes and the ref is about to start the round and he is still sitting there saying call it, then you call it man
He knew he could get seriously injured, it’s not that he not prepared it is when you know that you could have CTE and end up like Gerald McClellan who is currently paralyzed and lost 95% of his hearing. He doesn’t want to end up like that. Edit: Joe also mentions Gerald went blind so if you still want to say Max should have continued fighting, go somewhere else and get away from combat sports if you want to see peoples’ lives and careers end with one severe injury.
Can’t wait for Brendan to change his mind now that Rogan said this
Hahahah facts dude
Hahahaha
brenda slob? great guy... never met him
Brenda? I don't get this debate. The fighter can always tell the ref he's done. If the fighter doesn't trust his gut over his coach, that's on him, not the coach
So true!!!
it really sucks we can't watch what they're watching
@Liam Foster I don't, does that mean I can't be interested?
@Liam Foster cringe
@Google User hopefully!
For sure!! It’s the most annoying thing. I get why, because KZhead is stupid and Joe is high profile. But soo annoying
@@kevinb314 LOL I feel you bud
i feel the kid on this one. back when i played highschool football, i tried to get the coach to pull my out because i felt something was wrong. the coach screamed at me and refused. it wasnt fear, but that very next down i went in for a tackle and my leg ended up under the other teams qb completely destroying my knee and keeping me from ever playing another sport again
Sorry to hear that, what exactly happened to your knee?
My condolences to you for that. Also, that coach is a piece of work.
sorry mate,I hope you are doing fine much love
High school? Coach was playing for his ego at that point
Let me guess, they yanked your division 1 offers after that?
Understand Max wanting to stop, but I don't blame the coach for trying to motivate his fighter
@Zachary Hoy go find a girlfriend you angry weirdo And dont start beating her either
Zachary Hoy Are you mentality challenged?
@Zachary Hoy 🤦♂️
There is a point where its not "motivating" him anymore. There is a point where he simply doesn't do what the fighter literally asks him.. CALL IT x 7 times.. That ain't motivating that is neglecting your fighter.
@Dankenstein If u wanna coach do your job..
Respect to rogan, he knows his boxing even boxers from england. Nigel Benn was the man back then, his wars with Eubanks were classics
The Dark Destroyer, what a killer.
McKellen is the guy who don king convinced him to fire Stewart and hire a guy who couldn't speak English for his corner. if I remember right there was something up with the ref as well. Fuck Don king. I can't remember why don king wanted to get rid of Manny tho money, power, or both I think. Can't say it enough fuck don king
A Prayer Before Dawn is an amazing movie. Check it out peeps.
He don't know shit about boxing 😂
@@Moari4lyfe1 you know more than him. We know.
The kid took the fight 5 day notice for the money. He looked drained and possibly cut too much weight without a proper camp against an experienced pro who was ready and had a full camp. Had nothing left after the second round and felt like dying. Pretty courageous move to go against his coach and take himself out of there bc you can get hurt badly in this sport. He's back now and won his last two fights since then. Good luck to him.
I see why his coach was encouraging him. He won the first round imo. However the short notice fight had his cardio not up to par and its ok that he quit. Last thing we need is a death from a cardiac event in the cage. This isnt boxing. People dont need to die while competing
Oh you mean like Dada 5000 and Kimbo when Dada had a heart attack? lol
Perfectly summed up 👍
The fighter can always stop the fight. He can tap or just tell the ref he's done.
Carson Wentz but he can’t.
he wasn't going to DIE ffs. he always has the option to tap out or verbally quit. he 100% would have still been in control of his own health. bet he regretted quitting on his stool 5 minutes later.
Boxing is different though they literally get knocked out and they let them recover to probably get knocked out again. There's way more brain damage in boxing.
And the gloves allow for more repeated concussive force. It's easier to get caught clean and go out with 4 ounce gloves rather than get your brain rattled for 30 minutes with 8 ounce gloves.
Don’t agree with that spinning heel to the head and you will never get up
@@danleon3143 yea but how many spinning heel hook knockouts do you really see in mma not very many. Sure a spinning heel hook ko is more devastating but u dont really see almost anyone throw it where as punches every fighter throws them and in boxing thats literally their only form of doing damage. Mma u have more ways to win other than just knocking ur opponent out such as submissions, kicks to the body hell some fights even end in leg kicks. With boxing you're primary target is the head and getting repeated blows there throughout many fights ultimately makes boxing more prone to brain damage than any other combat sport
@@DanielM796 FACT
@@DanielM796 completely agree, I always use the example of a 10 seconds window, if you had 10 seconds to inflict as much damage, you might get 2 maybe 3 spinning kicks, but with boxing, just imagine how many hooks they can land in 10 seconds... a hell of a lot and that damage is compound.
Idk what people are debating about this honestly. Its a perfectly normal response from the fighter and the coach.
Cause there isn’t anything else to talk about in mma
@@JBOM-qp8nq correct
cause the little mermaid reporter want to make it a big deal
To prevent death's in the cage
Because it shouldn't be perfectly normal ffs!
The one thing I will say is that old-school boxing trainers knew how to end a fight when a fighter wanted to quit without the whole world knowing the fighter quit. I don't blame the trainer for encouraging him, but having an overt quit vs. don't quit argument in plain view isn't really doing your fighter any favors from a PR perspective. There are better ways to handle it.
I always look for Joe's context on these debates. Its refreshing and always helps me to understand all view points.
Imagine if Stephen A.Smith was commentatinh on this😂😂😂
HE QUIT IN THERE
Lmfao
Do you think he’d be yelling?
Im sure he will at some point
Hate to admit it, but he was right about Cowboy quitting though.
Everyones should read what the fighter had to say in his interview recently, he said thats what he expects his coach to do and he commended him for it. If a true fighter doesn't want to fight noone can convince him to but himself and he knows this
Unless your head has been beat in and the lights are on but no one is home. Plenty of fighters get knocked down and get back up but arent even there anymore. So many fighters think its second round but the fight is over. They fight multiple rounds without even knowing they did it. A fighter cant protect himself quite often
@@nickniesman7013 I agree with your points of disorientation, not knowing the round all these things are true. As a man, a human, the fact is no on is going to force you into that ring, you decide. Thats a fact unless your referring to situations where they physically force a fighter into a ring.
Every fighter says the same thing.... My corner did exactly what I wanted smh. Encourage yes... ignoring after NINE+ TIMES fighter says call it NO! Too many corners don't put their fighters health & wellness first & it's got to stop!
Ethan Seal Anthony pettis quit against tony Ferg he knew he wasn’t going to win people who don’t train can call fighters quitters but at the day end he saved his self from sever damage that ungrateful fans don’t have to experience.
M Batch Pettus quit because he had a broken hand
Not everyone needs to go out on their shield.
I believe in going out on my shield, but I dont believe someone should be frowned upon for not sharing my foolish sentiments.
@King Delevingne I'd love to see ur punk ass fight at this level.
Agree. If this was a title fight it would be different, particularly if it's later in the fighters career - but the kid is young and took this one on short notice. If he was getting beat up too badly and his brain was in a fog or whatever he's well within his rights to take the L and come back stronger next time
@King Delevingne jump in the ring with him then tough guy.
@austin M Nate diaz was like that before all the fights
Nigel Benn would be a sick guest on the show
There's a video of Benn meeting McClelland years later, on a wheelchair. Man, it's one of the toughest things I've seen.
According to an article in The Observer, McClellan participated in dog fighting.[14][15] McClellan's trainer and family admitted that McClellan was involved with fighting pitbulls, and on one occasion had used tape to bind the jaws of a Labrador shut before allowing his pet pitbull "Deuce" to kill it" Fuck that dude
Craig Smart Wow and just like that I’m happy that dudes life got fucked up the way it did. He deserves every ounce of pain he gets and I hope it’s a lot
@@cwbyfan93 thats such an ignorant thing to say. the guy and his whole family will suffer for the rest of their lives due to this. nothing could justify the pain caused, even some mistakes he made in his earlier life.
justCiaranYT I feel bad for his family of course. I can’t imagine. But Mclelland? Nah. That’s some pure evil shit that he did. He might be a nice guy but that evil exists in his heart, his soul, and his very being. And I don’t have sympathy for any individual in any condition who has that sort of evil inside of them
@@craigsmart1986 was talking about Benn
Here's my useless thought on the situation. The coach spends more time around his fighter more than anyone else. For however many weeks for camp theyre around eachother for what is probably 6hrs a day depending on the schedule. The coaches have a good understanding of what a fighter is capable of and how much he can push him. If the fighter is prone to hitting a mental wall at a certain point in a fight, the coach is there to break it down. Sure, you could argue that once the fighter says hes done, call it done but some fighters need that nudge because they cant muster it up themselves. Personally, I think coaches should Err on the side of caution and just throw in the towel if the fighter requests it because 30 seconds is not enough time judge if the fighter needs motivation or he's seriously hurt and needs serious medical attention. So let the guy live to fighter another day and let him take the L and work on pushing past mental barriers in camp if it turns out that the problem wasnt life or death. Nobody wants these guys to die in the cage/ring so lets keep these people safe or as safe as possible in a sport where theyre kicking and punching each other in the head
He took the fight on 5 days notice don’t know how much time they spent together
It's actually the opposite. Coaches who have been around a fighter forever have an emotional attachment to both the fighter and the fight. They don't see reality the way an outside observer does. Every coach wants to believe in his guy. Every coach wants to be the coach that talked their fighter off a cliff and then had them turn it around. This is an area where boxing kicks MMA's ass, and it's because coaches are chastised for not being an adult when a fight should be stopped.
People should be much more upset at smiths coaches. He took so much more damage, had nearly no path to victory, and only said my teeth are falling out between round 4-5
What fight?
It was Smith Vs teixeira
They were not ALLOWED to stop it. Anthony Smith said that if his corner ever stops one of his fights, they are immediately fired. They made that deal to be in his corner. They have 0 blame.
@@Justice4Skye The corner has the legal responsibility to stop the fight. Smith should have his purse docked and his coaches should be barred from cageside by the commission for a year for agreeing to that.
@@Justice4Skye Smith's teeth learned that was a dumb idea, the bad way.
I love watching Joe Rogan reacting to a youtube video that I cant see, really adds to the entertainment value of the video.
HEY JOE AND EDITORS LISTEN TO YOUR VIEWERS!!! IF YOU PULL UP SOMETHING THAT WONT BE A COPYSTRIKE LET IT PLAY ON SCREEN!!!
Lol
I always think of this fight when fighters want to stop. Im glad Joe mentioned this.
"That was a wild fight, Nigel Benn had those crazy dreadlocks" -- Joe Rogan 2020
Does anybody know if they'll be able to show the clips in screen when they move to Spotify
I recommend everyone watches the Gman Benn documentary it’s my favorite doc ever. It’s something else
took fight on 5 days notice...... went 2 hard rounds..... full camp he could go 3
Man that video where Nigel is with Gerald and his wife is a tear jerker. It really shows how many lives that one fight impacted.
“It’s entirely possible”
Benn vs McClellan had one of the scariest endings I'd ever seen in sports. Not just boxing, but sports.
It was the one of the greatest fights, obviously a shame what happened to McCellan though.
The Benn fight was crazy
He was a warrior (his first fight with Eubank was great too), but turned into a chicken when hearing Roy Jones or James Toney's names.
Remember that Benn fight like it was yesterday. Benn showed heart like I'd rarely seen before or since in that ring. He was never the same himself after!! Real life Rocky moment!
I could listen to Rogan explain fights for hours without seeing the actual fight
Can't wait for rogan to talk about Mike Perry GF corning
Bahahahahahaha
That's a subject I fear he won't cover for awhile lol
like Joe said Only the fighter knows. dude stayed in fight until he realized he was in danger
Danger? It was a cage fight. Danger was supposed to be there.
You listen to your fighter. Period. That's terrible corner work. I may have agreed if I'd never seen the Tyson vs Golata fight. Golata looked completely fine even got booed out of the arena when he quit. Turns out the dude was seriously injured. Detached retina fractured jaw and a list of other injuries. But I cant stress how normal he looked. Always listen to the fighter, when hes had enough hes had enough. Golata could have died from the next punch from a normal boxer. He was fighting Tyson.
Schilling will be fighting for extra cigarettes soon.
There is no discussion. If a fighter doesnt want to continue, thats it. Its over.
Max is known to quit on his self. The coach knew Max was like that. He was doing his job as a coach trying to get his fighter back into the fight. Read Max's interview he says the same thing.
there is always more than one way to look at something
Than the fighter can do it himself and say it himself to the ref. Simple as
What difference is there between quitting in that moment vs tapping?
"Maybe it was a good thing he stopped" I really like that statement
Link to the fight Rogan is talking about, please?
I like how Joe paints a picture of past fights like how big the fight was & all
Can you post a link to the original clip?
I just hope that max takes this as a learning opportunity, and doesn’t decide to give up, because even though he gassed out in the first, he showed some true talent. He just needs to be willing to learn from this, Or if he feels like he wasn’t properly prepared for the ufc environment then maybe he should consider switching camps
He was on 5 day notice, credit to him for stepping in that octagon
Saw highlights of the fight, and the outcome was so brutally bleak... Saw Gerald McClellan in an interview taken after 6 years, and his condition was heartbreaking... Saw Nigel Benn vs. Gerald McClellan after 12 years of the incident, and that shit had me in tears...
We all have a limit and this young dude found his, no shame in it, respect for stepping in the octagon.
Benn vs Gerald one of the most underrated fights in history
It’s super hard to watch knowing what happened to McClennan
@@JAw1729 great fight is a great fight regardless of what happened after
There’s honestly no controversy in this situation, the coach tried to encourage his fighter for the whole minute, the fighter said no and the fight was called off, that’s the most the coach could do.
Bullshit. The fighter kept saying "call it" and the coach kept not doing it all the way until the bell rang. At that point the coach has to call it. What you wanna force your fighter to fight because the bell rang and you didn't call it despite him telling you to? Absolute shit take. The coach can fuck off.
That's how the ufc started. Coaches threw in the towel when their fighter was finished. So yes, they should throw the towel if it's too bad
It’s the fighter’s decision, period.
Joe is spot on! The nigel benn fight is a perfect example of people having their lives destroyed because they're taking far too much punishment and we need to stop fights sooner, I'd rather fights stop to soon than see a guy hurt.
Coach wasn't that wrong, but the fighter was absolutely not in the wrong!!!!
@King Delevingne ok, armchair warrior
@@mmmyum4779 He's not wrong though. The greats just don't quit.
2 wrongs sorta made it right lol
He thought Joe Rogan would agree with him on this, kept quiet for 5 minutes when he realized that wasn't the case
Yeah that was awkward😁
It's casual discussion. He said sometimes fighters need motivation, Joe said some fighters know they're done. They're both right
@@purplemonkeyelephant yep, it's not binary, not black or white.
i believe it was OK for the coach to try and motivate the fighter, but the kid nearly begged to not continue, and that should have made the coach to accept the situation. Regardless how well they know each other etc etc, the trainer cannot 100% understand what his fighter goes through in that specific moment
@ man, having compassion for humans means hes shilling. Don't you have an egirl to simp on somewhere?
Seems like a sensible boy who knows when he's beaten. Continuing against his better judgment and incurring damage, he has no use for the future.
Please show the footage while discussing it.
I remember watching the Benn fight, scary shit
"He came out of it okay?" "No."
I remember that fight joe. It was pure brutality at its height. Gerald was a beast. God bless him
If a fighter cant continue it's up to the fighter his coach and even the cage doc can stop the fight for whatever reason seems necessary. Cuts, dehydration, or even damage.
McClellan fought Julian Jackson before that fight. Jackson was a devastating puncher and hit Gerald with some hard shots. Jackson eventually got TKO'd, but some of his shots could have had a snowball effect on Gerald.
This is insane Austin is from my area !! & this crazy how’s he’s made it so far !!
Joe didn't mention that Benn hit Gerald with dozens of rabbit punches.
I always think of GSP telling his coach that his groin was torn and his coach said ‘hit him with your groin!’
I think they’re both right and it just depends on the situation. At the VERY LEAST, you need 100% transparent communication between coach and fighter. When you’re exhausted you’re not gonna speak eloquently so the coach needs to know the difference between somethings seriously wrong or the fighters just having a hard time with the bright lights cause the words and demeanor can be the same. Whichever the case is, you NEED the communication no matter what.
Only sane comment
Can you imagine if Roy Jones fought mcclean in their primes.
Damn, I went and watched an interview with McClellan 6 years after the fight. Just a sad story, almost shed a tear for the guy.
Schilling will be punking people for extra bread slices and peanut butter packets soon.
Prolly but only if theyre drunk as🤬holes or jack'n in his bathroom 🤔
You reminded me of Jamie Varner saying he couldn’t continue after getting hit in the balls by Cerrone
I punched MYSELF in the jaw as hard as I could as a teenager (to impress a girl that I wasn't even attracted to). I played it off, for the rest of the day at work I felt like I wasn't quite actually in reality. I never did that stunt again. That was over 20 years ago but I still remember the sensation of doing my job (bagging groceries) while feeling like I was just controlling a robot. I did my job well, no one noticed, but I was designated driver for my body that day, I wasn't in my body. I honestly don't know how to describe it. Your body may break down and you may feel bad about it, but at least you can feel bad and remember what it once was or what it could be like. Losing your mind means you aren't you ever again. Living dead. (which is probably the best way to describe how I felt that day)
ooo ooo aaaa aaa the joe rowgunn text to speech
McClellan story is sooo sad.
The real question is, does Rogan have a photographic memory?
This is such a complex subject, the fighter could be afraid of serious injury or he could be just chickening out (doubt that would happen in a pro fight tho) and the coach could be giving him confidence or just being an ass, and also in case the coach wants to stop and the fighter doesn't than the fighter could know he can take it or he is being way too overconfident.
Coach should stop the fight when the fighter can no longer win, especially when injured. But short of that...fighter should choose.
Injury - ok. How do you determine can “no longer win”?!
@@alextownsend6662 oh shush. Stop looking for an argument. There's nothing wrong with what OP said
@@alextownsend6662 fatigue or a obvious concussion
@@XxPunxunite It's a valid question "Can no longer win" can mean behind on the scorecard. It could mean they're starting to gas out. It could mean a bunch of things and asking for clarification on a statement isn't looking for an argument.
@@alextownsend6662 when the guy can barely fucking stand. He's not gonna win
First time i've ever seen Joe Rogan with frown lines
Nigel Benn was a beast. Watch his fight with Iran Barkley in 1990.
I wish they would show us the screen that they are watching and talking about.
I wish we could of seen what they were looking at... seems like Joe doesn’t really show the screen anymore.
Coaches need to motivate but also need to protect their fighters
Damnit jamie you showed the wrong punch lol
You get 20 seconds to get back in the ring it's not the normal 10 seconds for a knockdown
Here after schilling finally got a win. It was vs an extremely drunk guy in a bar that Joe sucker punched, but a wins a win. Congrats Joe
Link?
Nigel benn was never the same after this fight
if he quits and regrets it that’s on him, props for even fighting tho
A new mindset is required...If any fighter ever says I'm finished that's it..Sooner or later if forced to go on someone will die...Then the real shit hits the fan !
Read Max's interview. He quits on his self. He needs the coach to keep him in the fight.
That’s too extreme. I think coaches just need to be more sensitive about when a fighters done. Ask more questions. Learn how to figure your fighter out better. Maybe even have a sports psychologist on hand. Improvement can always be made without having to going too far in one direction. Problem with people is that it always has to be one way or the other. It’s like you can’t walk and chew bubblegum at the same time.
Jojoe. Once again, way too extreme. Sure, nothing is perfect. So that means what? Let rapists rape people because nothing is perfect? Let murderers kill because nothing is perfect? How about, we can make things better and let people do what they want at the same time. You know you can do things at the same time right? You want to completely throw out one side of the issue, while at the same time saying nothing is perfect. It’s a contradiction. You’re being a hypocrite, which is what being extreme leads you to.
@ Once a fight stops being competitive whats the point in sending a guy back out there to get ko'd
Russell You’ve clearly never seen a comeback fight huh?
Joe Rogan sounds like Matt Hardy
Mike tyson says back in the day "gerald mclellan is dynamite " one of the best ever .
The coach said he was going to call the fight off if by the Bell his fighter didn't want to continue but the ref asked the fighter before he could call it off when the bell rang. The kid fought on 3 days notice and was drained from the weight cut. If anything he's a Hero for taking the fight on super short notice.
I don’t know
Joe “maybe you should call before the guy calls” rogan
Zayors Bmx Joe “what a old tired joke you’re repeating” rogan
Joe “but I’m to dumb to realize I’m using it to” rogan
Zayors Bmx no nice try 😆
I think trainers should have a talk between rounds with fighters and say if you don't show me something I'm going to throw in the towel but only say that if they are properly concerned.
if yall havent seen that fight joe is referring too, there is a short doc on it.. its sad af, but real.
Always so frustrated when people talk about getting more than ten seconds in boxing. It isn’t from the moment they hit the floor it is from the moment the opposing fighter retreats to the corner... smh
Does it bug anyone else that the top of Joe's headphones is never symmetrical? The foam but is always off to his right
Yeah..i remember the Benn v McClellan fight....McClellan started blinking exaggerated blinks a couple of rounds before the stoppage....he obviously knew something was wrong....very sad outcome.
The fight with Julian Jackson is where the damage was done You could hear his speech change after that fight happen
Glad someone brought that up
Is there something Rogan doesn’t know?
Rip to G Man 😞
He’s not dead
And people say Rogan isn’t a useful part of the UFC.. He is the best a giving context imo.
interview Bao please!
Had he continued and won everyone would be praising the coach now.