7 Things You Need to Know About Vassals - CRUSADER KINGS 3 | Beginner's Guide 05
Our Crusader Kings 3 Beginner's Guide dives into the conversation about Vassals - what are vassals, how do they work, how should you keep vassals organized, and how to keep vassals happy. Vassals are one of the most important aspects of Crusader Kings 3, and this video should give some clarity with regards to what's behind all the mechanics involved.
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00:00 - Intro
00:43 - What is a Vassal?
03:40 - Vassal Autonomy vs Crown / Tribal Authority
08:04 - Keeping Vassals Happy
13:19 - Why Do You Even Need Vassals?
17:36 - How to Organize Vassals
20:24 - Who Should Be a Vassal?
23:24 - Should You Be a Vassal?
24:39 - Outro
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Time to talk about the hassle with vassals... In depth! Next up - battles? Catch the rest of the playlist here - kzhead.info/sun/dMaAdK-MeYOoe4E/bejne.html
Another great tip I find useful: make known criminals and strong hooks your vassals if you need to exert control. The ability to imprison at will/blackmail is very powerful to quell any discontent.
Started CK3 a week ago and as I like starting blind, I played for 20 hours without outside help. It was a fun time but your videos are so bingeworthy and well structured that I binged through your entire tutorial series and it really helped me elevate my gameplay and roleplay fun! Thanks for the great tips! A lot I knew about but a lot of stats and more hidden options escaped me at first glance so there's something to learn in every "lesson"
Touching on point 3 "Keeping vassals happy": For any new players who feel themselves constantly at odds with their vassals and never seem to be able to keep them happy, especially upon succession, remember the Machiavellian saying "It is better to be feared, than to be loved." One neat little trick that you can employ if your ruler just died and your vassals hate their new liege, is to execute a bunch of your lowborn prisoners. Because they are not your vassals, you won't incur a tyranny hit, and you can build up a dreadful reputation early on, which will dissuade most of your vassals from forming or joining factions. Now of course, if you like to role play, it might not be ideal to have every single one of your rulers be a mass murdering maniac, but it will help you in the beginning when you try to understand the game and can't be bothered with disloyal vassals.
Now this strategy has been beaten hard with the nerf-stick. It only works if you somehow manage to imprison a bunch of titled characters, which could prove problematic.
One mistake I made in my very first game that isn’t quite covered here is having a vassal with a Kingship claim that they are capable of achieving on their own. When playing as Wales I had seized Mercia, leaving England weak, but without realising I had let somebody with a claim on the English crown become Duke. They eventually went to war on their own and won, becoming King of England, removing Mercia from my realm. Lesson learnt.
Fantastic Guide. Spot on. The level of production here is truly commendable.
Thanks!
@@PartyElite So I just started playing this game. I've learned quite a lot over the past few days. If I assign a vassal with 11 stewardship. Will it help with the amount of taxes they're able to give me? Also, if I arrange a marriage with a woman who has high stewardship. Will she help my vassal with taxes, similar to how my duchess helps me with my domain or are there other ways to increase tax flow,other than raising the base tax? Pretty much i want to raise the average tax. Instead 0.3 for a average tax. Id like to have a 0.4 or 0.5. I guess their opinion of course changes this. Depends on certain things. However, I feel as though increasing their stewardship is better overall if possible. Edit: nevermind. You covered my question at the end of the video. Thanks very much.
Extremeley good series of videos! I'm finally getting into the game, while I wasn't able to grasp all the concepts in CK2, CK3 does a MUCH BETTER job at that and your videos help quite a lot as well! May your children be healthy and plenty!
Do a guide on how to start as a count (especially already within an established kingdom/empire) and work your way up there's no fun in starting as king already
It can be fun if you start as a king with a crumbling kingdom or a young king that is freshly in charge and has to keep his grip on the kingdom.
I always try to start at the bottom. One way of doing it is to ask the Pope for a claim on your liege's duchy. He will grant one if you've got the right skills (virtues like Temperance etc) and he likes you. Once you have a claim you can start a faction for it and deliver an ultimatum. I got my liege's duchy with no bloodshed - he just conceded to my faction's demand even though I was the only member of the faction. You can do this on the next liege title (king). This time he refused my demand and we had a war but I didn't have to spend any fame or whatever it's called to start it as he started it.
look for Alfred the great playthroughs. That is a super common and historical count-level start.
I enjoyed this a lot because you took your time, and made the visual references very clear. Most other tutorials move so damn fast it's like they aren't even meant for new players.
Nice one, again! I have to watch it again and then reorganize my vassals! lol
another great addition to the series: thank you!
This has been the one I most needed... by far! Thanks for the great content.
thanks for the vid, especially for what we talked about in the comment in your previous vid, well done
Your videos are spot on and very well organized! Thank you very much!
I just started watching, but for some reason I already know it's awesome! Congrats, man!
Thankyou for this video, I have been looking for this exact topic for a few days. 👍
And on to the next one! Never clicked so fast, immediate like. Thank you for all your work, appreciate it! And have a nice week. Greetings from Switzerland :)
Extremely well written guides all around. Can't imagine how many thousands of players you have helped navigate this game.
just got this game for christmas and am eating up all the info I can. these videos are a big big help, thank you!!!!
I just started playing this, my brain hurts...
dude this is my first time playing and i have no idea what is going on or what should i do right
@@Fbnt2 don't worry yourself with all the crazy mechanics, you're gonna get RNGd in the end anyway
Yeah, I think CK3 is simpler than CK2
feels like u need a degree when u are new to the game to play it.
This whole tutorial series is almost 4 hours. If you watch all of it and then watch about 4 hours of lets plays you'll start to get an instinct for the game.
Wow! Your video did change my whole gameplay experience... thank you! The game was fun for me, but now it’s 4x more fun and complex!!! 🙏🏼
Extremely well done, this is one of the recent headaches along with succession.....Goddamnit succession pisses me off. BUT! Here's what's still hairpullingly frustrating! HOW do you prioritize and pick, and HOW do you min-max a vassal's efficiency? Let me elaborate... You want your vassals to be strong because that makes you strong right? You want them to afford to build and win their own wars because it benefits you, right? So let's use 2 examples. Example: You're a king, you occupy a duchy through war, let's say the duchy is comprised of 3 counties. How do you minmax? Solution 1: You give the duchy AND all counties to the same person? Benefits: Only 1 guy to keep happy, his titles have cohesion which means his income and levies max out and so do yours as a result. He gets to conquer on his own and grow you through those actions. Negatives: He dies. His son won't have the +180 opinion he had for giving him all the land. Now his son can be hard to please and ruin you. Solution 2: You give 2 counties to Adam and 2 Counties + the Duchy to Joe. Now you have 2 people to keep happy (and 2 sons who also lose the +opinion their fathers had from granting), but they have less power. Them having less power means they might not be able to afford building or warring on your behalf. Also, Adam is a vassal of Joe, so they would still rise against you together (or not?) Solution 3: You split 3 counties on 3 people and give the 4th + duchy to a 4th person. Now they're inredibly divided and easy to deal with if they rebel (they rebel together or no?) The problem with solution 3, is that you now have FOUR vassals to please?! Four in just ONE duchy! Or because 3 of them are counties under a duke, do you still ONLY have 1 duke to please since those counties have to please him? And thus are not your problem to keep happy? What about when that duke dies or gets conquered by one of his duchies if he sucks? Will ALL counties in that duchy get "not rightful liege" modifier? Or will my title of KING keep that from happening as long as that duchy is part of that kingdom? All this stuff is a COMPLETE headache to me. How to minmax? Somebody PLEASE give me an elaborate multiple solutions and scenarios reply...
@YA�IZ YILMAZ Also - What is the benefit of having a ONLY duchy title with none of the counties inside in your control? The extra renown, is that the sole purpose to stay with your limit?
What I personally do, as a King, is to give the duchy to my weakest vassal (to prevent too many powerful vassals challenging you). Ideally this would be a personal friend, a nephew or grandson in the family, or a existing count level vassal that is exceptionally talented. Picking a friend means you have more loyal vassals in the short term. It's a good idea to marry the friend's heir into your family to ensure blood loyalty. Picking a existing family member means your dynasty/house gains more of the power in your realm. Why share the power if you don't have to? Make sure the family member is actually from your house so you can play as them if enough heirs die. If you are the dynasty head, you also get Weak Hooks on your family members. Use these hooks to improve your gains from their feudal contracts. The last option would be to give the duchy to a talented count level vassal. The higher stats will mean your realm gets more out of this vassal. Again like the friend option, this is a short term gain as the heir may be a complete dummy. I prefer to make my family members as my powerful vassals in the realm and that guides all of my internal vassal decisions. The relations boost for family vassals means factions are easier to handle. So if you give the duchy to one of these 3 options, give some of the counties to the new Duke's heir and some to the Duke himself. This gives you a relations boost to both the Duke and his heir. This is more durable a benefit and also synchronizes well with the family member option. If you are a old King, give a new duchy to your heir (son?) and some counties to his heir (grandson?). This keeps it in the line of succession.
That's what's so brilliant about this game. There's not really a "min/max" in the traditional sense. It's all a trade off. Personally, my strategy is to reach Tier 3 crown authority, and then give out duke titles to random, weak individuals. Then, you give the counties in those places to other weak people. BUT, you transfer vassalage of those counts to the duke, which removes the "Desires County of _______" from the Duke, because they just want control over it, not necessarily to own it. Keep this process up with Kingdoms once you achieve Empire rank, and every time you conquer someone, grant vassalage to the nearest duke/King, or create a new title and put a new person in. Playing as the Byzantines, my vassals have conquered more land than I have, because they're organized and powerful, and have no fear starting wars. Only key point about this strategy is to keep the vassals happy, otherwise you're screwed. However, if you transfer vassals to their correct De Jure lords, most vassals will be happy
@@Khomann I like the thinking - make strong individuals who expand in your name for you. One part confused me. Why not just give them the duchy and all counties directly? Why give the counties to different weak people only to take them away from them and give them to the duchy owner anyway? Does it give even more happiness bonus to the duchy owner than the regular way? IF so, isn't that at the expense of having a ton of courtiers who USED to own territories at -40 opinion with you? Won't you eventually have nobody to give new territories to that aren't pissed at you from a previous action?
@@nickxplore4265 You certainly can give them all the counties along with the duchies, but I would advise against this early game, or if your overall realm is small. If the dukes have direct control, they gain a lot more money and a lot more levies because they actually own the land (as opposed to only getting __% of a counties taxes and levies through a feudal contract with their counts). This is fine, and in turn gives them more power to fight wars on your behalf, but it also comes with the risk of them becoming too powerful. A vassal that can overpower you will be more likely to ask for independence, even if they like you. Most of the times, the counties that a Duke owns will slowly be given away by the Duke himself, or splintered during succession anyways. I just like to cut out the middle man and have it pre-split ;) Also it just looks and operates nicer because it becomes a legitimate hierarchy of feudalism.
I really needed this guide, thank you!
THANK YOU PARTY ELITE
Oh, jeez, these are so good!! Awesome work, PE!
Thank you!
Great details very well explained
These crusader kings guides are awesome
Great help thanks mate
This is precisely the video I needed
"Everything's fine, it's just a phase. I just need more coffee in the morning and a little less sleep to catch up and then I can take a vacation" Shit, I just said this nearly word for word to my friend the other day lmao
Hang in there, buddy!
So helpful!
I really really reeaaally like your voice. Like, a lot. Great videos, very helpful. First time I get into this kind of game, enjoying it a lot.
This series is great! You portray excellent explanation skills. All the way from organizing the order of explanation according to relevance, to putting a foot into the deep end, showcasing the potential intricacies of each subject. Having never played any CK title(though other paradox titles) this series really helped me understand the game quickly. Thank you for this great series, and keep up the awesome work !
And thank you for the very high praise! Glad to hear it's helped, and I hope you're enjoying your first foray into CK!
There is one exception to the 'not rightful liege' penalty. If you hold an empire, you do not need to hold or grant the kingdoms below the empire. You can keep all your vassals as dukes, and they will not give the penalty, as long as they lie de jure within the empire.
Thx for the vid
I thank you for these, never played a CK game before this one, hoping to be able to play soon without console commands.
Hey Party, watched all of your tutorials so far! Thanks for making them. Could you do one on title management? I don't really understand how to choose which holdings to keep, which titles to make, and grant to others when I exceed domain limit and get the "too many dutchies" penalty. Also, tie it into succession management, too. It's still a bit too convoluted for me as a beginner.
Neat guide, helping me a lot. But if may suggest a subject after all tutorials vids are made. A vid(s) of what ¨can do and cant do¨ according to each of the governing systems.
thanks, respect.
You need to do a video on renown and how to farm it. I currently have an interesting decision to make. Form an empire made up of 4 kingdoms, or give a kingdom to each of my male heirs. Having an empire means a lot of land but having 4 people in my dynasty means 4 renown a month. However there is no guarantee that my heirs hold onto the kingdom they inherit. I am confused.
Thanks for another great video! This is my first CK game and it has been a doozy learning all of the systems and strategies but also oh, so rewarding. I keep seeing the beautiful zooms of the terrain in your videos but my zoom in the game does not go that far. Is there a setting for this? Or is it a mod? Thanks!
This video series is without a doubt the best info about crusader kings 3 I found. Big thanks!
I really enyojed your tutorials, i was never able to understand ck2 with all the dlc, and always wanted to play, could you make a tutorial on development and infrastructure, for me that's the most hard to understand concept.
If it helps, the CKIII wiki is now up which is a good reference
Thanks for the helpful video! Question for you... if I create a 2nd castle in my primary county, is it better to hold onto this new barony or grant it to a low noble? I ask because it seems this 2nd castle only has 3 build slots as opposed to 4 from a normal county capital. When you start considering it's in my dukedom which has a duchy bonus building, it might be better to hold onto it I think but I'd love to hear your opinion.
22:00 so true, I restored the danelaw, that's thee mostt stability you can reach in the British map, since no more liberty wars with the england leaders. I had the best character ever, a guy with learning focus but 20 martial and 4 star learning education, his bro was diplo focus around 28, with good martial and 4 star diplo education, they were son #2 and #3 and 1# was a crappy 2 star who I disinherited, so there was no bad choice. but as I grow oldeer, my prowess was 0 and a grandkid who was an amazonian steward, greedy and great at that job, simply challenged me and took the throne with 100% success, I saw 75-25, or 60-40, and I even won against the odds, but this time I had no choice but to give it over. so note to self, a bit of hand to hand is good if you are a king, and easiest way is being a giant amazonian. funny thing I got to play with the diplomat guy too. but it was so meessed up, I had to stop that playthrough. iceland went adamite, thee country broke up multiple times and the holy wars came for us. at least I made a neew religion which was quite good, only it limited some marriages, but introduced a bit of new blood too. in otther playtrough, my sister was a decent marshall with huge prowess, but I got an 'insult contest' and beeat her at that :D
Question: I was the King of Scotland and gave my heir one of the counties in the duchy of Strathclyde plus the duchy of the Isles. He ended up leaving Scotland and becoming independent. Not sure why as the Petty kingdom of the Isles is only a duchy level title.
Excuse me? Where do you keep the nuclear vassals? Great series, PE!
Holy crap. The very end caught me off guard since I didn't know vassals could fight vassals without consequence from liege. I always thought that being under a liege means hands off to all their other vassals.
Yep! At higher levels of crown authority there can be limitations, but that's when you make a faction for "liberty" to reduce your lieges crown authority.
@@PartyElite Thanks. I still don't get the difference between claims. Like when I start as duke of Monster, Desmond is the only county I need to complete my duchy. But the claims on Desmond are imilict for the children of the holder. And pressed for the brother of the holder. IDK what it means. I have no claim on Desmond, but was able to declare war on on it due to being majority county holder in the duchy. But still didn't have claim after winning. Which I thought I would get since the tutorial directions seem to suggest to attack it due to having claim on it. However, it only became a vassal under my realm. And the enemy holder escaped my prison, back to holding it again, but as my vassal. Since I had no claim, I couldn't take hold of it myself or grant it to somebody else. Really need help especially with understanding the implicit, pressed, unpressed rules.
@@shatteredknight1129 regarding claims, I would check this out - kzhead.info/sun/pNuapLynjGeraoU/bejne.html As for what happened in your war - Claims are just one type of casus belli... One of the many that ends with the newly conquered title belonging to you. What you probably used instead was the casus belli you get access to because you hold the title directly above the targeted county. Because you're the Duke of Munster, the Count of Desmond should serve you - it is rightfully (de jure) part of your Duchy. So the war you declared wasn't to get the title for yourself, but to get the title holder serving under you, as he's supposed to. So when the war was won, he's still the holder of the Count of Desmond, but now he serves you. That's my best guess as to what happened, based on the info I have! I would suggest watching the video I linked above for details about war, and to revoke the title, I'd suggest checking this out - kzhead.info/sun/ocutf8eCjaKAn2w/bejne.html
@@PartyElite OK. This makes way more sense. Maybe it's just the tutorial, because it seemed as if majority control of the duchy would give me automatic claim to the title for that county. And do what I want with it. So basically, I'm not going to war to take ownership of the title. It's just to make sure that the dejavu county is fully part of my realm. The videos explain claims a bit, not not that clear. The info is helpful for some of this. I think I was able to figure the claims out. Not completely sure. I posted my explanation on the internet here - www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/j9m15s/claims_explained_how_claims_work_in_ck3
Another thing, if you are a vassal, you can serve on the Liege's council. This can give you same great bonuses. I got 40 dread as a Spymaster for the Holy Roman Emperor. And 3gp month in taxes for being the Stewart.
Ck3 should link your channel at the end of the tutorial.
I’ll also make knights vassals and revoke titles from vassals who are a little too strong with hooks or lucky criminal events. It made a decent boost to income, imprisoning powerful adulterers, and it let me cut them out of factions while I deal with the rest.
always make vassals of only high martial and high steward. the rest is just lost potential. regularly check grant new vassal if someone with highstat is available thats lowborn.
Unless you have the on the job perk, then make sure they are all as good as the y can be.
so many guides its getting overwhelming and i didnt even start playing yet
This helped big time I kept getting in situations where my vessels would hate me
Great series. its teaching me a lot. What is the cap on stats? I noticed one person you were showing had a martial stat of 22 which is the highest I have seen yet in my short time with this game. Do they have a cap? Does it vary from stat to stat? I'm curious about this. Any chance of a guide on armies like best composition of which type of troops to use? Strategies involved in war and so forth? Also a guide on the buildings and what they provide and which ones are best for say different cultures and etc., would be great too. Anyway thanks in advance. I will continue to watch and learn.
I'm not sure there is one! I've seen 50+ stats, for example. I'm working on a war / battles video right now actually - it'll take a little longer to make, but I'm thinking it's the next one to do based on requests in the comments!
@@PartyElite Cool I'm watching your Maghrebi Madness E 01 now as I type this.
@@Skott62 awesome! Enjoy!
Um hey...I was wondering if you would start a campaign for this game other than the live streams you have done. I'm really looking forward to a fresh campaign. Hope you start one ASAP :)
This game has an incredible about of choices to make and levers pull. I thought eu4 was complicated 🤔
How can I re-gain my independence??
Should I give my heir who I plan to play as successor a title, What's the pro and cons of doing it? And is it better to give a duchy to other vassals not of the same county so he cannot become more powerful?
If I want to start from the bottom and first be a vessel how do I stop being one and start my own bath?
So I just started playing this game. I've learned quite a lot over the past few days. If I assign a vassal with 11 stewardship. Will it help with the amount of taxes they're able to give me? Also, if I arrange a marriage with a woman who has high stewardship. Will she help my vassal with taxes, similar to how my duchess helps me with my domain or are there other ways to increase tax flow,other than raising the base tax? Pretty much i want to raise the average tax. Instead 0.3 for a average tax. Id like to have a 0.4 or 0.5. I guess their opinion of course changes this. Depends on certain things. However, I feel as though increasing their stewardship is better overall if possible. Oh ok. You covered my question towards the end of the video. Wow. Thanks 👍
Great video! Is there any specific reason why you should not just give titles to your sons and daughters to keep the realm inside your family?
One of the main reasons I think would be those same sons and daughters rebelling because of claims after you die. Not really sure though, I give them to my family all the time.
finally at the last chapter
I hate to break it to you - there's another one in development right now!
Hey does anyone know if there's a quick access menu for vassal holdings like there is with your domains? It's so stupid going to each city individually to build
Random question but I don’t know where else to ask this but why is it that some wars I gain the land and some I gain vassals?
One of the things that would be really helpful for myself is to better understand the details of marriage and marrying off your children for advantage without screwing yourself in the process and how to advance your cause if, in a male dominated world, you are blessed with numerous daughters and only a son or two. I want to enjoy my daughters and use them to as much advantage as possible and/or change culture or religion to do so over a few generations. Anyway... the whole how to marry for the success of your dynasty and family success.
Hey guys I need help so my vassals keep fighting each other I told them to stop n they won’t so how to I go to war against them ? Like a civil war there’s not option for go to war only then join in my war option when I right click
for purely making money does it make sense to make city leaders vassals of counties??? since the city+castle would be under their domain so not split another time before going to you
@ 17:54 if the Leige is you, there will be no levy and tax penalties? If not there is it?
"Just two vassals... duking it out." Aaahhhhh
Raja Anangpal II I feel you
I was wondering if the AI is capable of sorting out their own rightful liege? Say for example you are an emperor and they are a king and acquire a county. So they assign these new acquisitions properly or do you constantly have to monitor it and sort it for them. These seems like tedious work and lots of issues with opinion hits as you are removing vassals from them and giving them to their correct liege. A disadvantage from Simply trying to keep things the correct way they should have been.
3/4 of the time, most of my vassals rebel has soom as i die.. why.
Exactly what I needed! Two questions: when giving a title away, how do you know if they will be feudal or republic? Can one ruler have two kingdoms if they are not an Emperor?
A ruler can have two kingdoms at any point, assuming they hold the legal land for those kingdoms. An empire comes in exactly the same way, just with much more land. Duchies, kingdoms, and empires are different ranks in a system that works extremely similarly in each rank.
@Jordan Elbers A republic is always associated with a City holding. Playing as republic is currently unavailable and you get penalties if you hold a city directly. As thunderhammer7 said, you can have two kingdoms. But you should always be wary of holding multiple titles of your highest rank. If you have a succession law that gives multiple heirs then you will likely fracture your domain. E.g. If you hold two kingdoms, Kingdom A will go to your direct (playable) heir and Kingdom B will go to your brother, who will then be an independent King
i struggle most with gold/money, it's veeery hard to come by and building/creating armies is quite quite expensive... any tips on this would be more than welcome!
It's difficult at first and depends if you're playing as a tribal or feudal system. If tribal: go raiding. Recruiting mostly costs prestige rather than money (except for mercenaries). I have a hard time generating a stable income as tribal though so... firs expand, control your vassals, keep them happy and progressively move toward a feudal system with high-ish crown authority. If feudal, well... get a good steward, get a wife with good stewardship, get the stewardship life path (starting with "Tax Man") and make sure to have a great control over your counties (get a good Marshal and make sure he's always increasing control in counties with low control). Getting martial perks to improve your control is also a good idea. With more control you can collect more taxes and that's especially important on your domains. Once you have about 500 gold and are getting about 5 gold per month (just a rule of thumb) AND (very important) you're pretty sure there won't be any war in the next 5-10 years, start developing your settlements (castles and cities) by building stuff that gives you more gold per month. And by that I mean those that are part of your primary title (do not develop any settlement outside of your primary title unless you're far enough in the game, have a good grip over the kingdom and have high partition for succession so you're sure that even non-primary titles will remain under your heir's control).
@@Draclord35 thanks, this is what i was mostly going for, but it helps! i started as a tribal county and transitioned to feudal quite quickly. my first run in the ireland tutorial i was building stuff all over my map, for vassals as well. and then i went for the pseudo-democracy system, so my realm kept changing with each new ruler, quite a clusterfuck, but i did manage to become king of ireland (and quickly lose 2 counties to outsiders). was fun for a while until my dynasty kinda hit a brick wall, cause my family kept producing girls... i find all of what you advise harder to do in one life-span, i'm just on the brink of playing as my heir, a sadistic and not very competent man (with bad diplomacy and MINUS faith). let's see how it goes!
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awesome one...do a guide about war sensei
I have no vassals, how do I get one?
how do you increase the crown authority?
The little buttons I was hovering over as I was discussing the topic (at the top of the realm tab) can be clicked
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I bought this game in order to play it and have fun but now it feels like I'm trying to become a king irl
when will you do the third episode of maghrebi madness?
Later today!
great vid chief but i have a huge problem with vassals being unhappy with me due to the rightful liege thing i still dont understand what im doing wrong i go to war with someone... take their land as my own... give it to one of my vassals.... eventually the vassal is unhappy with me due to rightful liege stuff. like...... no shit im not the rightful liege, i took that land by force why cant you just be happy with the land i gave you
Thanks. I believe I am now truly confused. 😉
question> playihng as some Irish guy, i have several empty slots in my county, but don not see the option to build castles , temples or cities.... can you help+_ thanks. i mena to find the build option, and requirements.
Are you in the tribe stage? I don't think they can build those things. You also unlock more options through innovations.
@@reutermo thanks, yes, iam tribal and wantedd to colonize the whole country... but i thinik i saw somewere that those emptoy slots give bonus to tribal and nomads.
Hmm..? Maybe I missed it but you didn't mention anything about getting rid of weak "powerful" vassals? I often find vassals who require a spot on the council but their stats are pathetic. It's bothersome having to kill them or imprison them because another always takes their place. Sometimes I have two "powerful" vassals with the same high stat but obviously I keep the one with the highest
That is a sign for decentralization. One of the main reasons to not try and make a massive empire so much as create and release kingdoms/duchies of your family control.
you can give away titles when over your domain limit to older, unmarried people in your court so titles revert on death. I just did this with one of my knights, and he went from -19 to -100. i dont understand how that could happen... EDIT: in the video you mentioned that vassals will be unhappy when you are over your domain limit. he went from being in my court to being a vassal so that is what happened. cant remember the name of my character, but you start the game in a war for bulgaria. on winning the war, you lose old lands, new lands are renamed to hungary, and you are then 15/5 on domain limit. i didnt know there was such a penalty for being that far over domain limit so i started murder schemes against my unhappy vassals before trying to give away land... oops.
And if you have a Empire? Kings became your vassals, it is more likely to only have kings as vassals at this stage of the game? My last save i was emperor with 100 vassals ... (sorry for the rough english) Now in my new save i have a less more vassals, but the king of france it is my vassal and he has 92 titles lol
I wish you could play as Barons :(
I've an alliance with one of my vassals, when i declare war or when someone declare wars on me, they don't join... The option to call them to war was grayed out. Was i doing something wrong or is it bugged?
I think this could be where the vassal would decline, you only get the option if they're likely to accept. This is probably because of a low opinion of you.
vassal alliance keeps your vassals from declaring war against you, they don't join war against outside nations since in essence they are levied on your current army already.
@@setoshi I think this is partially wrong. As the king of Ireland I had an alliance with the Duke of Ulster (my vassal) and he definitely helped me during several wars in Scotland. You get their levies yes (which is just a portion of their full force based on their feudal contract), but by calling them on a war you might get the rest of their forces too as friendly units (in blue).
@@setoshi If that is the case then joining in an alliance with vassals is a waste of time since you just can ally another big nation and if my vassal rebels i call the others to help :/.
@@Zeerse_Chef I think this was probably the case... I didn't check their opinion (i just was positive with the leader).
Can you please explain what makes someone a "Powerful Vassal"?? I have a baron-level vassal with a realm size of literal 0 being considered a powerful vassal and complaining about not being on my council. I don't want to put her on my council because her stats are garbage, but now I can't pass any laws because she hates me :C
Of the vassals you have, those with the most military strength are considered "powerful vassals". Think of it to mean "powerful *among* your vassals" as opposed to "powerful vassal compared to you".
I have something like 50 Vassals. If I give them all right to go to war when they want, will they go totally crazy chaotic and start attacking everywhere?
Has your kingdom stopped burning yet?
If you have heaps keep them happy
Pro tip: beware the asshole vassal. You will almost always end up with a vassal who is extremely powerful and who will not like you no matter how much you try to appease them. Form some alliances, let them rebel, kick their ass and revoke their titles.
I've not had a vassal joined in a war no matter how happy they are.
Vassals don't "join" in a war unless they're also an ally you call in, or they decide to join in themselves. What you get from them, by default, is their "contribution". When you raise an army, it automatically includes it!
@@PartyElite Thanks for the reply ya I know this just wish that sometimes a vassal would join your war if they have a reason to like you just like you can join your leiges wars as a vassal! But I guess that's basically what you said. Just commenting that a vassal hasn't decided to join a war for me. Guess I'm no cool enough!
How do you retract vassals without gaining tyranny? What makes certain vassals have a higher vote in elections?
You need to have a rightful reason to revoke their titles,like if you are a cathplic ruler you can tak titles from fornicators,deviant and so on. Itvaries based on your faith,you can have them excommunicated as well,which also lets you revoke their title
"This penalty (vassal's contributions) is much better than the penalties of being over your limit." Not if you have a big enough empire. Just remember, that vassal contribution is to direct vassal. If you're an emperor, you might get .005% of the count's levies or money. Whereas being massively over your domain limit is a flat 90% loss. I'm not sure where it becomes more profitable to rule everything and have no vassals, but it's there. Because there's a massive penalty for both non-direct vassals and being over the domain limit, I always wonder what's the point of expanding beyond your domain limit at all. Especially since the goal of the game is to reach a certain year, and not conquer targets like in similar games to this.
Just jumping in way late to say the goal of the game is about dynasty. You don't lose when you lose your kingdom or empire, you lose when your dynasty loses all land anywhere. Actually, the game directly rewards having multiple dynasty members with INDEPENDENT titles and de-facto punishes having one large empire with all family under one title. Especially early-mid game you'll find greater reward in setting up kingdoms with your family even if they are constantly infighting and going to war. Just set yourself up for alliances with the kingdoms/duchies most at risk from outside claims.
Take a shot every time he says "vassal"
Risky considering the title of the video!
Is it better to give counties away to my brothers and kids or to random dudes in my court?
BANANA YES IM FINALLY FIRST