Koenigsegg vs Rimac vs Murray vs Hennessey: The Ultimate Car Boss Chat | Top Gear
What happens when you hand Christian von Koenigsegg, Gordon Murray, John Hennessey and Mate Rimac a drink, some random topics and hit the record button? Well, you have yourself a conversation for the history books. Strap your brain in as Top Gear Magazine’s Jack Rix referees the biggest names in fast car making as they debate the biggest topics in motoring. To listen to the full episode on the move/in the bath/at school, don’t forget to check out the Top Gear Magazine Podcast.
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03:53 EVs vs Combustion engines
12:35 Future of speed and performance
20:43 Biggest failure and its importance
33:17 Elon Musk/Tesla vs Car industry
44:45 Your last drive on Earth
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Dude this is like sitting down Enzo Ferrari, Ferruccio Lamborghini and Ferdinand Porsche on the same table. EPIC
Too bad everyone in the car industry hated Enzo lol. Fair point tho there are some legends in this interview
At that point ferruccio lamborghini and enzo ferrari would have started to beat one another 😂😂😂
yeah not really the same
In terms of pedigree, absolutely! Add Jean Bugatti to that and the set is complete.
Nahhh chill those men were legends. Only Cvk and Murray are remotely close to them
I love how Christian von Koenigsegg's kid is a JDM fan, meanwhile his dad designs some of the most advanced road cars in history 😂
Hahahaha toyota straight six he says
😂just evry kid this days
Even his kid knows a 2JZ will make Koenigsegg's better. 😎👍
Dad put a 2JZ in one of your test mules 😂
Is because his son entourage or what he saw first on KZhead and started to like it!
I could listen to Christian von Koenigsegg all day. Such a down to earth guy who can explain complex concepts with such eloquence and lucidity.
Damn true. 💯
True that
the german youtube jp performance visited his factory and got a tour through the production from christian. highly recommend watching this
An American, Croatian, British, and Sweden come into a bar😂😂😂😂😂😂
The best part of them is how humble they all are despite reaching such heights in their careers, especially Gordon.
There's absolutely NOTHING humble about Murray. He is by far one of the most arrogant and self-absorbed people I have ever met. I have met CvK a few times and toured the factory, and he is so laid back and engaging to speak with. Same with Mate.
Notice the idiot below you doesn't allow reply to his comments? I think if GM was arrogant he would have introduced himself as designer of the car widely accredited as the best car of all time. Doesn't even come into his intro
@@AB-80X Well that's pretty depressing to read as a petrolhead. Don't meet your heroes I guess, eh?
@@iAmCodeMonkey Very much so.
Real geniuses are always humble.
I'd love these guys to do a filmed track day and drive each other cars....Maybe the best idea I've had all month... You're welcome TG
Brooo I'd love to see that.
You're
Please do that
Amen to this!
This is the one
This is probably the best ( car related) video of the last 10 years. Thank you top gear.
A bit of a stretch but wow never expected top gear to pull this off.
I think you might be correct. It's even better the 2nd time around.
@@rroy9985 kanye east represent
I totally agree 🏎🏎🏎
Totally agree
Christian von Koenigsegg is a true automotive genius. When he speaks, he is able to convey his points in a way that the layperson can still understand
It’s so precious how Christian, CEO behind one the most insane hypercar companies of all time, still drives an old Mazda Miata.
Christian gives me such good vibes. Clearly a highly intelligent man who knows himself and his purpose very deeply. Would love to work for a person like him.
Same!
I also likes his take on reality with ICE vs EV in that it doesn't have to be a versus "thing" but a coexisting "thing". personally getting a little tired of this all or nothing approach we have here in the EU.
Christian is a practical man.
the meatriding is crazy
This sit down is incredible, this is the modern equivalent of having Enzo Ferrari, Ferruccio Lamborghini, Caroll Shelby, and Ferdinand Porsche
Enzo would piss off Ferruccio, Ferruccio would start the brawl while Shelby and Porsche watch.
I'm pretty sure Enzo and Ferruccio would not be happy to meet each other.
Ettore Bugatti
The Italians wouldn't have showed up.
Needs more Horacio Pagani
They are all no doubt incredible engineers who make some truly inspiring cars, but Sir Murray is in a league of his own. Truly a living legend.
Sir Murray is a thief... His reputation is built on other people's work. He's just a glorified manager who had no valuable input on any of "his" masterpieces.
@@AI-qd4vb interesting take..... no facts or substance.. really nice of you to slander people
@@AI-qd4vb all these people are mainly glorified managers, wake up.
@@AI-qd4vb honest, well done. It is really impressive to say something so unbelievably stupid with such confidence.
look up Stephen Anderson Nichols the F1 designer to see the true story behind it
"The ultimate freedom tool on planet Earth" - these finishing words of Mr. Koenigsegg resonated with me the most. So true!
Idk what to say !! I'm speechless buddy....I can die for Mr Koenigsegg
I lost my Daily driver and I'm riding a bike... I'm so ready to look for some new wheen when he said that.
When 55 minutes feels like 5 minutes, you know you can’t ever get enough of this show. Nothing but passion.
Fastest 55 minutes I can recall watching anything.
It feels like that for real
I just love how the stig stands throughout the entire video
And the stig is stood there through it all
Very well well put. I also liked the format a lot, whith TG staying in the background, moderating only very little.
When Gordon Said „… it did 240 and I think that’s still the NA record…” and Christian said “yeah it is” in an excited manner Man that send shivers down my spine I mean seeing Christian van koenigsegg “fanboying” to Gordon seems so unreal but is so geniuine Awesome interview!
Shows just how special Gordon is
Loved the look on Mate's face when he said that, like he couldn't believe it and was going over in his head which other cars might be faster
That definitely didnt not fall on deaf ears. The F1 is still a testament of Gordon Murray's craftsmanship and what a supercar should be. Pure.
What does NA mean?
@@dariobarisic3502 Normally Aspirated.
As a Serbian I am very proud of Mate presentation here. Great enthusiasm, passion, friendliness. Man, people have no idea how much effort it takes to lift yourself to such business mindset if grow up in Balkans.
Croats do not like Serbs. Yugoslavia?!
@@raveninnsbruck9166 how yes no
croatia is not balkan, croatia is mediterrain.............
@@mirogerovac-gadaud660 sure just learn how to spell it properly 😘
@@raveninnsbruck9166 Bro, relax. Just because you grew up in a household full of hatred, doesn't mean all Croatians did. You most definitely don't speak for all of us real Croatians.
This is the best content that Top Gear has given us since Clarkson, Hammond and May.
[Everyone introduces themselves whilst Stig patiently waits for his turn] [Jack skips Stig] You've made a powerful enemy today Jack.
LMAO hadnt seen him
I was worried Stig was going to overheat and pass out.
@@MichaelHarley some say he is cooler than the back of a fridge.
but would The Stig have answered anyway..? 🤔
@@Tekzoned silence speaks a thousand words
The only missing part is Horacio Pagani in this video. An absolute joy to watch those people together.
he can't speak English
@@harrisbrunlehneralso seems like he would believe his cars are the greatest car ever and everything else isn’t a Pagani…idk maybe I’m way off but just the feel I get is all.
Not only he doesn’t speak English but he isn’t really building performance and record breaking crazy stuff and if you solely look got the fun factor/driving feedback Gordon is a lot better fit for type of show than Horacio would’ve been.
Elon would be cooler
@@trillandthome2685 pathetic elon sheep.
Christian von Koenigsegg and Mate Rimac are having the same ambitions and to see the two people sit in one room is amazing . I bet Mate was super happy to hear some of thoose stories of thoose car making legends.
The fact that FOUR guys with allegedly busy schedules coming from all different areas of the planet to meet and have an in person conversation rather than a zoom meeting per se, says a lot about their dedication to their work.
yes.... especially considering what an uncomfortable and unsuitable chairs they were provided with
Literally the greatest Top Gear video since Clarkson and Co left years ago…. To have these 4 legends on one video talking about their passion and the car industry is epic. Imagine all 4 coming together to make a car as a joint project 🤤
Only one I’ve watched since
First topgear vid i have watched since the old trio left... great vid
An electric pickup truck with dihedral synchro-helix actuation doors, three seats for front row and some aerodynamic fan in the rear 😂
Hennesey - what would they bring to the table?
I always wondered why they didnt put Jack (and Ollie) as host. They're great car nerds, interesting to watch and fun.
Easy to see the overwhelming respect everyone has for Gordon
The F1 is goated
He is an automotive living legend. All of them look at him with the greatest of respect and inspiration.
He's half the reason the rest of them exist
Gordon is the master of Legend if there is a category.
Dude is a POS who tried to steal credit for the MP4/4
I can't stop thinking how these guys were able to pull up some time in their already crazy agendas to just sit down and chat. This is just outstanding!
This has got to be one of the best interviews I’ve ever watched. It is so amazing to hear real life relatable experiences and thoughts, from these inspirational car engineers/enthusiasts, that created many of the record breaking cars today.
I can see myself rewatching this video in 20 years and thinking how lucky is this guy having the chance to interview 4 of the biggest car company founders of our time.... It's like having Enzo Ferrari, Mr Lamborghini etc together in a room....
Enzo and Ferruccio in the same room? I can only imagine the arguments that would ensue there haha.
Probably the argument will lead to create a new hypercar by Lamborghini
One of them would not leave that room under their own power. I feel like Ferruccio would do better because he's younger, but Enzo would fight dirty, so it could go either way.
Define biggest.
@@abdouaarifEnzo would probably go „OUR CAR WILL GO 600 MPH AND WEIGHTS 30KG“ the whole room would be a chaos lol
We are so proud of Mate. Croatia has nothing to do with the automobile industry. But Rimac is growing and growing!
You guys might not have anything to do with the automobile industry but you have one of my favourite game developers if that is any consolation :)
Rimac is a joke really. He learned how to appear polite. A spoiled kid with a father who made a big national fraud (taxpayer money) and gave him some of it to play with cars. During high school he told the reporter that the money for his first EV project (arround 100-200k) comes from his launch money. He is a living insult to all Croatian people and a reminder of the war and the people who made money out of it. The only thing he built was an electric bicycle and the company under which he sells it is constantly in the negative. The Nevera, Concept one etc is done by many many engineers, and Mate is not one of them. It's really a disgrace to put him in the same room with this brilliant people.
Dont judge Mate by stories you hear. i have to just open your eyes. Bill Gates didnt invent anything, he just stole and presented other ideas. Where is he now? He is an iT person talking about vaccine and deppopulation. And he is idol to many... If you want a person that is what it is, they say Elon Musk does all, solves problems which no one can and he is what he is presented to be. I personally doubt in it, its such alot of money and so many different huge projects that you gotta question is it Cia, FBI, Nato or God knows who that helps. So Mate, yeah, if he had money before to race cars, you could say, like people do here in Balkan, do drugs, be a playboy or whatever. But no, he was car enthusiast. Then we got his ideas he got from Tesla projects. The rest is History, Rimac is a Huge thing, and he will just be bigger and bigger with time that comes. He did perfect thing at perfect timing. He bought Buggati, God knows what he will do in future. But it will be a bright future no doubt. you talk of war, how many war criminals we all have,that have alot alot of money, what good did they achieve ? What bussiness did they start ? If Mate didnt start Rimac, no one else would, probably for a while, but from Balkan, no one would come close to this in any project, but cars for sure not in this century ! You should be proud. Even if you believe or know the things you wrote are true, his progress and things he did, will do huge things in future no doubt about it. He proved it already.
@UAD Cro jealousy is a b..ch. And while you are suffering in your moms basement because daddy is obviously not sticking around anymore, this brilliant young gentlemen represents MY country in the best LIGHT possible. When you speak about Croats he is a disgrace for, you mean the ones that are living from month to month not doing s..t with their life or the ones that like to represent as Croats but we know who they are. He is not a disgrace to me and a lot bigger number of people than the ones of your sort, jelous bums.
Isnt he Bosnian?
What an incredible opportunity to see these brilliant minds all on one stage and talking about their past, struggles, and future. One of the best YT videos I've watched in a while. Thank you.
They are all very intelligent and humble people. Great conversation, 10/10, would watch again for another episode.
No one can beat Gordon Murray's CV tho. He's literally a living legend
I think Koenigsegg is the greatest modern car company and hypercar/exotic designer. The sheer amount of detail that goes into their cars and the fact that they manufacture 99% of all of the compinents in their cars(down to bolts, lights, brake calipers, bushings, etc.) Instead of using suppliers really cements how incredible Christian's company is. However and to your point, Gordon Murray is an absolute legend and his pursuit of pure driving pleasure and perfection is unmatched.
You would think with top gears budget they could afford tables for these people's drinks, rather than them keep their drinks on the floor below their dirty shoes. How bizarre
My brain turns off everytime Hennessy speaks, he really is out of place here
@@buzzfightbeer8023 what you say is true, but I don't believe it makes them incredible making their own parts, at the end of the day when you don't require a price ceiling on your product everything is possible
@@superchickensoup to be fair, Christian does truly invent new ideas. A single gear and no gearbox in a car, a 600hp 2 liter 3 cilinder engine coming soon hopefully. These are just 2 examples.
I love that Gordon could be everyone's dad.
LOL, I think his creation McLaren F1 is the daddy of every hypercar ever since. It shows that his great influence in the industry
Not my dad. because my dad is a hard worker and not some "way too rich" pos
@@Skinnamarink. The idea that Gordon wasn't a hard worker nearly every day in the last five decades is just absurd.
@@Skinnamarink. have daddy issues?
@@Skinnamarink. lol none of these guys were rich at all
I actually never thought I'd see the day that we would get to see such a discussion from the giants in the hyper car industry. Amazing stuff.
Biggest respect to the guy who is standing still for over 1h dressed as the STIG. - Some poor intern.
Not the collaboration that we deserved, but the one that we needed
Some people might be missed from this podcast : obviously Elon M (would love to hear his opinions in this group) & Horacio Pagani .. ;0)
@@poplaurentiu4148 I think the problem with those two is Elon Musk is very busy, always working pretty much and Pagani doesn't speak English. However, if those hurdles could be overcome, I definitely agree
TG. Congrats on having such incredible guests on one panel. It can't have been easy to arrange.
SERIOUSLY!
💯
I mean. It's Top Gear ran by the BBC. I imagine it wasn't that difficult.
Well i was tuned into this from start to finish. Just listening to these guys talk about their achievement and the blood sweat and tears they put in to get to this point just makes you appreciate and respect them even more.
The line Christian said at the end "It's the ultimate freedom machine". It's so true in every way. That's my fascination with cars too 😁
Christian Koenigsegg is a real gentlemen and his answers impressed me and taught me the most. The whole panel is amazing
Gordon Murray delivering a Masterclass 🔥🪄
rimac amazing
I love how realistic, passionate, and positive this group is
Most logical and grounded conversation I've seen in a while and they went over some very controversial ideas. Huge respect for these guys already but it keeps going up.
These guys and Horacio Pagani are just living enthusiasts legends
Except the rimac guy. He does not belong up there.
@@longsleevethong1457 not yet. But yeah, I concur. But he does own Buggati now.
@abishek4300 he doesn't own Bugatti, Bugatti and Rimac belong to the VW group, and when they bought Rimac, they fusioned it with Bugatti and put the Rimac guy in charge
@@abishek4300 they laid it in his lap. He was made ceo. He didn’t buy it.
The stories of how he got to where he is aren’t appealing either. Sounds very corrupt.
I love how the stig is just standing silently behind all of them as the bartender Edit: my god, guys thx a lot for the likes
Sadly, it took me way too long to realize it wasn't a cardboard cutout.
18:32 it's not just a cardboard lol
I love how the bartender is just standing silently behind all of them as the stig
I don't like it. The director is an idiot. A top gear logo somewhere would be ok i guess. The stig is no decoration. Ask the stig, he will tell you.
Underrated! At first I thought it's just a model. 😂
42:32 Such an important quote by Christian, couldn't agree more. Hopefully the enthusiast will still have combustion engines in a sustainable future 🙌🏼
I'm not a big fan of John Hennessy but his follow up remark is just as crucial... People like to generically mock that trucks and SUVs don't get used for their actual purpose but that's just not true. A large portion of the.Amercian work force need those trucks and need them to be reliable, capable, and able to be refueled on the fly. Shoot just a commercial mower weighs more than you think and that's just the mower, not the trailer itself or everything else you need. Also in times of emergency (I.E. - Tornados, flooding, hurricanes, ect) which is frequent here those trucks and SUVs actually do matter. Between lack of capable products (Ford Lightning, Cyber Truck, Rivian R1T which could not sustain a mowing company's needs for a day - a low bar to meet), the lack of charging infrastructure, the low turn around times, it's just not possible. Also when an EV motor goes it goes, and that's not a go to Jiffy Lube or AutoZone and sort it out kind of problem, it's in just about all cases a major job costing major money just in parts, the labor charges are going to be insane. I would bet the farm, you take your work Toyota Tundra into the dealer and then take your Cyber Truck into the dealer in any scenario, that Tundra - F150 - RAM - Whatever is gonna be 100 or 1,000 times cheaper.
As someone who works in the industry and has a real interest in both electric cars and combustion cars, it’s both heartening and interesting to hear my opinions shared by both Christian and Mate. I think what they say about the next 10-15 years is absolutely spot on. A fascinating 55 min panel interview. Well done TG for organising it. Sympathies to the poor guy stood in the race suit as the Stig for an hour
Don't worry, Stigs legs are hydraulic.
@@ohedd yep. Even the Stig Front Suspension is also hydraulics.
I have mixed feelings about the rise of EV, if people want to drive an appliance to get from a to b that's fine with me but forcing taxes and restriction on enthusiast ice cars is not OK in my book.
@@davidgalea6113 being an EV doesn’t make a car an appliance. Appealing to the majority of buyers does. 90% of ICE cars are appliances, and there are plenty of examples of EVs that are far from that. Taycan, Rimac Nevera, Jag I Pace all have considerably more interaction and fun in how they drive than 90% of ice cars! Also, taxes aren’t stopping anyone from driving historic or classic ice cars. Quite the opposite I’d say!
Hi Mike, I know this is unrelated to your comment, but if you don’t mind me asking how did you get a job position in the industry. I’m a fellow car enthusiast who is pursuing a degree in this field but no luck even getting a basic mechanic job. Any tips?
This is probably the greatest car video ever not to feature a car. Well done TG, a truly incredible group of people to get together! 👏
Made me subscribe. The roll-for-a-question part is priceless.
This whole convesation is so awesome, thanks to all this inspiring people and top gear to bring this great guys togheter! Please more of this!!
This was excellent. All really good questions and great discussion about the the cars we all love.
The fact that Koenigsegg jumps into his Miata every summer week for pleasure is such a strong vote of validation for how great Miatas are. Makes me a little prouder to have one (but a little ashamed that I’m irrational enough to want to own it forever).
Just as well he's bald because he doesn't have to visit the hairdresser in his MX-5 Miata 🤣
@@peanuts2105 he is bald to minimize drag and improve his aerodynamics
@@NICKCAMP04 weight savings too 😎✌🏻
This made me smile, too. I loved my MX-5. Great cars and the ultimate proof sheer power isn't everything (though I don't regret the extra power my V8V has, haha). Koenigsegg having one emphasises this further.
Stig is the epitome of patience. Wished you could involve him in any act.
I was actually scrolling down the comments to see if anyone actually mentions about Stig here. It was somewhere around 20 mins when I realised that it’s actually Stig and not a mannequin dressed up to look like him.
I'm guessing that was just an actor in stig's suit, not the actual stig...
that is not the stig inside come on, thats probably just some random bloke with normal salary
@@bruisersdilemma354 might as well put a mannequin since he's basically just stand there
Imagine having that job. "here, put on this race suit and stand there for an hour"
What an awesome chat. All 4 are legends, although I do hold a specific fascination for Christian. The way he thinks and carries himself is absolutely inspiring to me.Great vid, thank you TG team
I’m not trying to boast, but I do consider myself incredibly lucky to own at least one car from each of these amazing people. Take that with a grain of salt and don’t be too jealous… I have devoted many hours to earning them in Forza Horizon 5. Lol
Just seeing these four legends willing to sit together to have a discussion is a huge pleasure for the fans
I agree! But I can't accept the fact that TopGear put their drink on the floor. I mean it's TopGear, they could've done better than that. That thing bothers me so much. When you have important guest, you will prepare everything nicely and serve your guest with quality. Touché what a bummer
5 legends you guys forget about the Stig in the white suit
Hahaha the stig isn't a decision maker in the industry, he is an entertainer - influencer
Gordon represents the greatest decades of formula 1. Truly, a living legend!
Can't forget he made the best road car ever created as well. And his company builds more cars based on that car to give people the best driving experience they can have in modern times. The guy is a living myth. I love all the other "companies" attending here ofc but Gordon simply has the most experience compared to them and it shows. Not disrespecting anyone else ther ofc.
A legend on all fronts
I believe in Honda NSX supremacy
Murray is cool but his effects in designing the mp4/4 are overstated. Most of the team at the time have came out to say he is full of it.
@@Cyyanss oh is that why the car won 15/16 races?? The other teams are just being petty like all the time.
Good stuff TG! Awesome video, many thanks to you and these guys for this sit down❤ Such a sit down would be great also with F1 bosses(former and current), rally bosses, and major manufacturers.
I truly enjoyed listening to these great leaders. All of them have very interesting backgrounds, stories, and perspectives that are inspiring. Mate appears to be such a humble genius. Learned that in addition making and selling the Rimac Nevera & Time Attack Hypercars, he is a supplier of Electric Drive Trains, Infotainment systems, Battery Packs, and components to the OEMs through his Rimac Technology Division. I can see his technology becoming accessible to many car manufactures one day.
This video deserves millions if not billions of views. Just to see some of the greatest Hypercar names, if not the 4 greatest Hypercar names it's just inspiring and outstanding. This is the collaboration that we wanted, needed and deserved. Imagine these four guys running the world's largest Hypercar business combining their ideas into technological, powerful and fast pieces of modern art.
When you don't even realize that billions of people don't care about cars at all.
@@Rodisflawless It's depressing that no one cares about cars. LOL
@@e46racer02 well, that's today.... Back in the 90s and early 00s... Supercars were every kid's dream. The first thing they wanted after graduation was a car....kids these days are satisfied with thier PS5 and iPad only lol. I remember me and my friends used to talk about Bugatti Veyron a lot when it came out. Heck, everyone was crazy behind motorcycles like Hayabusa as well. But times and trends change, everyone got cheaper and obtainable sources of thrill and entertainment now with technology and gadgets like video games, Netflix, Smartphones, Social Media....that ofcourse no one cares about a car going 400kmph, which they will never see, forget to sit and feel it EVER in thier lifetime.
I haven't watched TG since the gang left. But this practically brought me to tears. These guys are the pinnacle right now. It seems funny to me how Hennessy is not so excited about electric, but daily drives a Tesla. Also funny that they all have Tesla's. Lol
he's not excited, because out of the 4 of them, it's his job that is most at risk from Tesla..
It would be a better show if every once in a while they sucked each other off, PRISON STYLE. One episode he'll be our bitch, the next episode he'll be our tranny slut. Then I'd watch.
This sit down is amazing thanks to everyone at top gear who made this happen
They are actually rival in auto industry, but during the interview they supportive to each other like truly car enthusiast, also as engineer❤
Props to The Stig for standing there silently for an hour
Hahahahaha that's commitment
He turned into a statue the moment Christian got into the room, he still has ptsd with koenigsegg.
🙌😎 I was thinking the same thing. I’m sure he’s hotter than bloody hell
I don’t know how I’ve missed this video for 3 weeks, but I couldn’t think of a better group of people to sit down and get insight from. Icons that I’ve looked up to for years now. I could listen to their conversations for days on end.
Same lol the KZhead algorithm needs some improvements, I NEEDED THIS THE SECOND IT CAME OUT!
Phenomenal Top Gear - one of the best ideas Ive seen on You Tube. That room, those men - outstanding viewing!
It's great to hear their perspectives. I love the balance between accepting reality but not letting it limit dreaming about what's possible.
Tbh Rimac founder is a very charismatic guy. I don't like electric cars, and I'm afraid of Bugatti being eletric. But I've got to be honest, he is truly a very interesting guy. He talking about his failures was good to hear, in a very inspiring way. Now I really like this guy background and determination. Incredible vídeo, probably one of the best of car legends at all.
he already said, Bugatti is prob not going electric anytime soon
@@mkronos02 he will still make some Bugatti hybrid though,
Mate has done his homework on the guys..respectful yet proud of his product.
Rimac is a joke really. He learned how to appear polite. A spoiled kid with a father who made a big national fraud (taxpayer money) and gave him some of it to play with cars. During high school he told the reporter that the money for his first EV project (arround 100-200k) comes from his launch money. He is a living insult to all Croatian people and a reminder of the war and the people who made money out of it. The only thing he built was an electric bicycle and the company under which he sells it is constantly in the negative. The Nevera, Concept one etc is done by many many engineers, and Mate is not one of them. It's really a disgrace to put him in the same room with this brilliant people.
@@uadcro now crawl back to your septic tank
It's super encouraging that Mate Rimac is a true petrolhead. Bugatti is in good hands.
Even musk’s a petrol head! You can’t replace the thrill and emotion of an ICE car, sure, regular daily’s are suited for electric drivetrains. But for an enthusiast, a Bugatti buyer, you want that sound and vibration. And with future biofuel tech, it’ll never go away.
Man I love this, all great personalities and legends of my generation. I just wish we would still have a proper carshow like TopGear to show these amazing cars in a manner that everyone would want to tune in and watch.
A dude who sets fast records and a dude who beats that record and then a dude who exists only to beat their records and then an old dude who actually started this. What a great conversation big thanks to Top gear.
53:00 The ultimate tool of freedom, beautifully said by Christian von Koenigsegg. This is what keeps us, car enthusiasts going for cars over any other modes of travel, or at least why I choose cars
What I admire most about Gordon Murray is his fanatical attention to detail. Every component of his vehicles there a reasoning and story which accompanies it. This is often claimed about supposedly visionary CEOs, but is more often than not a hollow cliche. Absolutely love his choice of Lotus Elan series 3 because it has the best steering feel of any car he’s ever driven.
Each have their own special qualities I guess. CvK is craaaaazy innovative. Still doing things to engines and gearboxes we'd have loved to see decades ago. Rimac is doing ultra advanced things, making the rest of the industry into needy schoolboys.
More group conversations like this please!
mate is a genuine guy so humble and he is excited you can see it.
Topic discussions with timestamps: 04:14 = Can an EV ever be more exciting to drive than a combustion engine car? And if so, how do we get there? 12:50 = What is the future of top speed and performance figures? Does anyone want or need to go faster than 300mph? And what will be the true measure of performance in the future? 18:55 = Gordon Murray talking about the top speed and performance figures topic 21:04 = How important is failure? And what's been your biggest failure? 33:41 = Elon Musk - what are your thoughts on the man? Is he a good or bad thing for the car industry? 42:32 = Side topic of general electrification for cars and ownership of cars 45:02 = You've got one last tank of fuel on Earth or one battery of electricity, if you prefer. What car you putting it in and where are you going to drive it? 49:02 = What is your personal inspiration?
I watched the entire thing (didn't think I would) but thank you very much anyway.
5:55 = Gordon "The Professor" Murray really gets going
I love how Gordon Murray said he only had 3 jobs while holding up 4 fingers 😂
Good spot Hammond
Briefly met Mate in Montreal just before the Canadian Grand Prix - my son saw a Nevera pass by a couple of blocks up and we chased it down as we knew it would be caught in traffic. He was kind enough to roll the window down for a quick chat before silently rolling off... Epic moment my son will not forget. That said - he definitely has an emotional connection with the sound of an ICE because he has grown up with higher powered RWD noisy BMW's around.
The only downside to this video, is that it was only a hour long. Absolutely brilliant set up and variation of guests. Would love to see more of these.👏👏👏
This is a historic event that will be watched 80 years later and even more...special history thanks guys
This was phenomenal. Thank you! Shout out to Stig just standing there near motionless for the entire time.
@TyQueezy Some say Stig moves so fast the cameras can't even see it
@@elcasho All we know, he's called the stiiggg!!
Brilliant video and fun interview! Well done! Cheers, Eric
I like how Murray's got that look on his face like " if only you kids knew..." ; honestly these guys need to build a car together. One masterpiece for the History books.
There’d probably be too much disagreement to get anything done unfortunately
This is AMAZING: Imagine if back in the day we had this with Enzo, Feruccio, Bruce, and Ferdinand 🤩 what a JOY to listen to this
They would just be arguing and shouting at each other bro 🤣☠️
I think its better to set that meetin on an octagon bro. Its gonna be a free for all fight.
@@sachinrajusv3060 Well... Maybe Enzo and Ferrucio would but I think Bruce and Ferdinand most likely be chill with everyone.
Personally I think Ferdinand would feel awkward there considering what stuff he'd made before.
Enzo and Feruccio in the same room wouldn't work. Supplant the Lamborghini founder for Colin.
An hour long video, of which you do not really know what to expect from, turns out to be so fascinating to keep you completely hooked, only for the ending screen of the video to bring you back into reality an hour later. Great stuff!
Its just awesome to see all of these creators of some of the fastest production cars in the planet just sitting down and talking happily, rather than angrily feuding
Dude can we give props to the host for not interfering and letting them take control of the conversation. Well done man rare to see people not make everything about themselves these days.
55 minutes with these guys, certainly worth the price of admission. Well done.
It’s an hour of my life I’ve lost but would never want back ❤
I couldn't have said it better
Whoever pulled this off deserves a promotion. Fantastic video.
What a classy fruitful discussion with such legends & car enthusiasts 🙌🏼
(Long essay incoming) When Gordon Murray mentioned about how a generation of people might grow up only ever knowing EVs eventually and enjoying them, it reminded me of my own experience with cars when I was younger, particularly BMWs. I grew up during the Chris Bangle era of BMWs, and I loved it to bits! I loved how simple and elegant the 3 Series of the time looked, the 5 Series with the swoopy wing-like headlights, the curvy front end of a 6 Series, etc etc When I grew older and watched clips of car shows airing during the time where those cars were new, that's when I found out how hated those designs were. People were very critical, with some saying it was either boring, ugly, a traitorous departure from traditional BMW design, or all 3 of those things. But to me, the Bangle-era BMW was the BMW I came to recognize first, and it was the BMW design language I loved. As far as I was concerned, that design language was and always will be quintessentially BMW. They may have lost some older fans, but they gained a whole generation of new ones who fell in love with the new design direction and made that generation into people who liked cars, whether it'd be for the drive, the design, or the tech & engineering, or all of those things. Now I'm on the other end of the fence, with the gigantic kidney grills on the new M4, iX, etc. I'm not a gigantic fan of it, in fact imo I think it's pretty ugly. This is probably how older BMW fans felt when the Bangle BMWs came out. But while I don't like it, there's a kid out there who's growing up and loves that design to bits and is gonna be a car guy when they grow up the same way I did. People are gonna say he or she's gonna miss out on the "good old days" , but people said the same thing during my time with BMW and I turned out to love cars still. Maybe I love things in a different way than car guys that came before me, but I love cars all the same, and the new generation of car enthusiasts are gonna go through the same experience too. I might not like what they like, hell I might hate it even, but I guess that, like Gordon Murray mentioned, is a generational thing. If you have fun with things that I personally don't, more power to you! We're allowed to like different things. I hope the younger generation has lots of fun with cars the same way I did, even if our ideas of what's fun are worlds apart. If it feels exciting for you, whether it's with EVs, hydrogen power, net-zero co2 synthetic fuel, or some other new form of alternative fuel we haven't even made yet, then my best wishes go to you and hope you keep enjoying it 👍🏻
have you seen the new mega grills in real life? I admit I hated it when i saw the first release pictures but when I saw it in real life, it was stunning. I was like "hmph, not bad! " and the more I saw it the more liked it. And when you're saying 3 series, are you talking about the e46 or E90? the e46 is in my opinion the most influential BMW of all time, the fact that they're such versatile cars and you still see them everywhere in the road for being 20+ years old at this point, plus the massive fan base.
@@Lucidbkeo Omg I totally forgot about this comment! I actually saw an M4 recently and it's actually pretty good looking in person, I was impressed! I stand corrected, at least with the M4 and iX. I haven't seen any of the other mega grill BMWs yet but I'd be happy to see them myself! Also I was talking about the e90! And not even the M3 or anything, just the plain 4-door 3 series. My mum had a 323i and I think it's a lovely design personally!
@@techpassion4126 ah, fun fact, even though Chris bangle designed the e60 5 series of that generation, he actually designed the e46 but not the E90. the E90 was designed by a Japanese man, Joji Nagashima.
@TechPassion What you posted may have been a few miles long but I can understand it perfectly from how much emotion there was present from your personal experiences. We all have our preferences, some more than others, but then again as Murray stated, the liking of certain cars is generational like with many things.
Well i grew up before bangle era but still the e60 is the best looking 5 series for me personally, only recently got switched with g10 lci so my opinion is, regardless the generational thing, CvK has the best answer regarding the ev, in fact I'm looking to buy an affordable ev for my daily since tesla is damned expensive in here, even the hyundai ev one is still cost a fortune
Best automotive panel ever. Also shows how humanity has evolved in the last 50 years as such a sit down wouldn't have been possible with Ferrari, Chapman, Shelby, Porsche/Piech et al back in the day.
Was waiting for someone to notice and write this.
It's "easier" for these guys cos they're boutique manufacturers, so the founders are more intimate with what they work on
Hennessey & Koenigsegg will always be part of my childhood.
This interview is pure gold. Thank you
If Horacio too was there, it would've completed the legends circle
Yes. But he doesn't speak English (
These guys are good in engineering what's to come. Horacio Pagani is closer to Enzo Ferrari's levels of legend. They are more inspirational, crazy, romantic, with incredible stories, unique vision, unlike these guys, their creations go beyond car people.
@HannibalLecter ehm ehm excuse me, he made the first full carbon car as a prototype... The carbon countach
rimac better
@HannibalLecter he experimented with something that it's the thing everybody do today, and it's the highups in lamborghini that told him to stop. The definition of pioneer
Living legends including 34 year old Mate Rimac. Well done TG!
ngl I thought he said 24 haha
@@sportturismo_4s fr
4 brilliant minds in one place. Brainstorm I didn't knew I needed till I've seen one. Cheers for all the contributions to the motorcar world fellas.
"You learn soooo much more from your mistakes than you do from doing things correctly" THANK YOU!
What an incredible interview with great minds. I LOVE Christian von Koenigsegg perspective on pushing the industry to better fuel sources - A brilliant man with a global problem-solving approach for the entire industry. And to you as the host and Togpear Thanks!!!
That’s why he built a 4 seater hyper car none of this dudes could think outside the box. That’s why you can tell he’s a mechanic but the rest are just team leaders.
Agreed
@@paganizondasroadster1660 just team leaders? Gordon Murray? Mate Rimac? what the...
@@rayfighter koenigsegg has made better cars than previous cars he made in the 2000s. He made a 2L 3 cylinder that makes over 500hp. The car seats 4 has a carry on luggage. Yet Murray and Hennessy and rimac are still stuck in the 60s of making cars that seats two can’t carry two 2 luggage or none at all. Even Murray’s F1 Mclaren is still better than all the cars he makes till date. That’s to let you know they’re team leaders and not engineering genius. When you hear Koenigsegg speaks you know he works on cars engine and build and overall efficiency. The rest have less knowledge about fuel efficiency, practicality, etc
@@paganizondasroadster1660 that's hilarious argumentation
So much automotive creative talent in one meeting, once in a lifetime experience for all involved. Must be the media event of 2023, Thanks Top Gear
Agreed, It's great seeing them together like this.
The brilliance and intellect in that room is insane
Best clip re: anything auto discussion I’ve seen in a long long time. Hats off.
I completely understand what Murray was explaining when he was talking about the 15 wins out 16 races in a season, and how that loss was an important in it's own way. One year when I played in youth league soccer, I was on a team that just dominated every other team for the entire season. I don't remember how many matches we played that year but I remember that the only match we lost was the 2nd to last match of the season. When I say dominated it's not an understatement. We were winning matches 7-nil, 9-1, 5-nil etc. We lost 3-1 and it was because of 2 contributing factors; 1st our opponents came ready to play and 2nd we didn't have our heads in the game until we were down 2-nil at 1/2. By the time we refocused ourselves it was too late, the other team had the momentum and they were driven by their success. Losing that match helped to serve as a reminder that we were good but being good is not enough if we weren't mentally in it. Having won the league we went to the regional playoffs and made it to the championship match, which was the farthest a team from our league ever made it. I have a feeling had we not lost that match during the season that we wouldn't have made it nearly as far as we did post season.
Amazing!! Loved every second of it TG, thank you. Now, a Part 2 is in order with Adrian Newey, Horacio Pagani, Ian Callum and Ross Brawn. Please make it happen.
Horacio doesn't speak english so it wouldn't be the same with an interpreter.